The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: I Think There Shouldn't Be a Mental Health Month Anymore

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

Today's cast: Domonique, Pablo, David, Chris, Billy, Charlie, and JuJu. Domonique, with his leg up on the desk, is obsessed with what he saw from Cooper Flagg yesterday on the Team USA Select Team. Can someone as freakishly athletic as Flagg still be sneaky athletic? Justin Timberfake gives us a breakdown and stands up to David's skepticism. Plus, David takes legitimate shots at Mental Health Month and Civil Rights that definitely aren't taken out of context and used against him. Then, Pablo has an important question: Where the hell did all our White American boys go? Also, LeBron James speaks on behalf of Bronny, Billy questions why Puerto Rico has an Olympic team, and David likes to be able to see the entrance of a restaurant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yesterday's show was pretty awesome. I would like to say Pablo, fantastic host. Why am I not sitting? Why are you not sitting in Dan's chair? You are sitting. I am sitting in why are you not sitting in Dan's chair? You are sitting. I am sitting in Stugatsa's chair. Dominique, his genitals are just hovering. Why are you looking at me?

His shorts are so tight. Yeah, they look good, right? You gotta show them quads, baby. His shorts match his socks and his shoes, and his t-shirt. It is a great look. You like it? I actually love it.

I'm just happy you let us down. We want Dominique to do a standing desk show the entire time. Before we digress into foolishness, I would like to say, Cooper Flag, am I right? That boy was cooking. You have a crush on Cooper Flag? So my brother-in-law introduced me to Cooper Flag

about two and a half years ago on social media and I was so impressed because he was tall and athletic but I did not expect him at 17 years old to be on the select team giving work to the modern-day dream team. Look at these highlights of Cooper flag. You're gonna you're gonna narrate all of this Cooper Flagg description without naming some relevant characteristics that make him actually a story that's really worth discussing. I don't know, the only story that's worth discussing is he's a 17 year old boy and he was by some people's account the best player in the USA select team versus the USA Olympic team game yesterday

where they only lost by one and Cooper was clearly dominant at 17 years old being defended by Drew Holliday. Get it out the net. Did he become a man at 18? So he's a 17 year old boy but you can be in the NBA and be up at 18 and then you're a man. Yeah, I mean it's really, seems like you're asking a question. Like it's the law. It's the hell of a transition. It's the law, and then you're a man. Yeah, I mean, it seems like you're asking a question. Like it's the law of transition.

It's the law, yeah, you're 17. Just because you have rights when you turn 18, I don't view that as you're ready to. We can call him a man, a 17 year old man. The point is, he is incredible. And that's all that matters. So the US Olympic team, this one, as I gushed about yesterday,

is like actually vibratingly impressive. Everyone who's on this, super impressive. Love it. Chris, a hell yeah? He's sneaky athletic to me, Cooperflagg. No. Based on one game. Step on ya.

You guys saw one set of highlights. You guys are couch scouts. Did you not hear? I said I've been watching him since about two and a half years ago. And I believe that Chris believes he's sneaky athletic because he's like 6'10", which like you're not supposed to be that athletic.

Also white. Oh, huh? What? Sounds creepy when you say you've been watching 15 year olds on YouTube. Fair point. I'm here today, Pablo sitting in the other chair. We got my buddy David Sampson.

David and I had an argument last night at dinner. Pablo violated us a number of times at dinner last night. Yes, sir. There are a lot of things that happened at dinner last night. We'll get to those at some point, but back to my man, Cooper Flagg. Can Kravitz weigh in? Kravitz is also here. About Cooper?

He's got a weird jump shot. Ah, don't be, so you're, don't do the self-hate. Don't be harder on him. I have so much in common with Cooper Flagg. Athletically and physically. Charlie, Boots, Straps, Kravitz. I get what you're saying, however, Juju's in the middle, guys.

Charlie Kravitz, you guys know him. He's my producer and co-host on my show just so everyone knows who is not watching on YouTube live right now. David Samson called Charlie your safety black hit yesterday. Shout out he's actually he's vanilla snack that's what the people on the snow call him. Okay thank you. People on the show so first time so Charlie's been kind of he's Justin Timberlake. Yeah, he's been a producer for a while and people would know him

and when you and I did a show together, people saw his hands but never his face. So people knew of him but didn't know what he looked like. So the first time he came, first time he came on the show, social media did a little, got a little excited about how he was handsomer than they expected.

So someone called him the vanilla snack on Twitter. So it's stuck. And then someone else called him sugar cookie. These are things that- But why is he here? Cause he's my dog. What you mean? You don't ride with your dogs?

All right. David, that was mean. Why is he here? David Sampson is dogless. I am dogless. I love that Juju's here. I haven't seen Juju since his his birthday and we both agreed that birthdays are There for relaxing now, right? We're past the point right a lot of salute to everyone who wished me happy birthday

Thank you so much I'm getting back to the messages and also salute to all the brothers who reached out During mental health month men's mental health month brothers. I got got like hundreds of messages, so I'm getting to them. I did not forget about you guys. I got y'all in my heart for sure. I think that there shouldn't be a mental health month anymore. This is my new thing.

I think every day. I don't like when it's just, so it's just that month. We're gonna just clip that part. You can clip whatever you want, but the theory is this, like Father's Day or Mother's Day, I don't agree with it. You should be a good father every day. You should be recognized as being a good father every day

or a good mother or anniversary. You're just nice to your wife on your anniversary. Or you just think about people's mental health during mental health month. Any thoughts on Black History Month? Right, Black History Month. Why is that? Oh, I don't think he was agreeing with you.

Flip that as well. Wait, why shouldn't we be dealing and recognizing that every day? See. You're right about that part. I should. Let's have Christmas every day. It feels like I have to explain so many things to you.

I just wanna talk about how nasty Cooper Flagg is. That's all I wanna talk about. You wanna celebrate White History Month? The reason why. Is that every month? We'll get back to Cooper Flag. I will help you out once again, as I did yesterday, teaching you something new in every segment.

Like the point. I'm gonna take notes. You should. Okay, I'm ready. The point is because these things are not acknowledged. That's why you have these special, it's more likely to, like, they aren't. Like the point of having Black History Month.

David, David, David is writing down Don't say that we should eliminate black history The point of having a Mother's Day and Father's Day is because yes, maybe you're right every day You should appreciate itself, but people don't that's the point So you need a hallmark holiday to appreciate your mom to remind you that you should say yes You think you're on the right side of this am I really? Might so out of it that I'm on the wrong side. It's like the easiest stance ever like what you're doing It's like Hulk Hogan cupping his hand. Yeah, but no one does it to moms every day

We should like I do pay the teachers every day like pay the teachers. Did you see that step back? Oh the dream shake on the baseline Cooper is nasty He's you do you think he'll make the NBA? Are you for sure? Okay, can I have a thought? Can I do this? Is this okay? I'm so sorry if everybody's involved.

You guys are done? David Sampson. That is something, man. I'm so sorry, big brother. That might be a penalty box move. I'm not sure of the authority. One day I hear. He does have a tiny Larry O'Brien trophy,

which I think gives him the capacity to penalize David Sampson. You don't think that there's a road that he still has to go through? He does have a tiny Larry O'Brien trophy which I think gives him the capacity you feel me panel 18 You don't think that there's a road that he still has to go through no so okay? I happen if he was eligible for draft today's Make the NBA is he going to be Hall of Famer? Maybe not but is he gonna make him wishing a catastrophic injury upon Cooper no I'm saying the premature celebration I've never been a big fan of. You just said you wanted to celebrate

everything all the time. Exactly. The whole thing is the celebration is not premature. This is like Caitlin Clark's celebration going number one to Indiana in February. This is not a premature celebration. I'm celebrating how well he played in these games this weekend.

It's shocking to me. You don't think it's impressive. The same way that yesterday you said it's not impressive that Joey Chestnut drank a gallon of milk in 13 seconds because it was 2% milk. You're trying to pretend like him cooking the best team ever assembled is not impressive. They lost by one point because 80 got a block.

It's impressive. He's 17 years old. Mr. Sampson, it's impressive. You think they were firing on all cylinders of the Olympic team like this was a NBA finals type game? Where's the penalty box button? David Sampson is trying to take Cooper Flagg's pension now. That's a nice callback. Let's just be happy for him.

All right, I will indulge Chris. He's white, that, I will indulge Chris. He's white. That's also pretty cool. If you couldn't tell by the name Cooper Flagg. I have a theory that I wanna roll out to you guys. That he was created in an algorithm for whitest names possible? I think that Cooper Flagg is from Maine.

Of course he is. I think. No way. Celtics fan, by the way. Shout out Celtics in Maine and Cooper Flagg. I think it's possible that Cooper Flagg would not be a great basketball player if he was born in a state that's not quite like Maine. Maybe the state that I'm from.

If he was born in Maryland, that boy would have been a lacrosse player or a pitcher or something else. They'd have found him and said, oh, stop dribbling that thing. Get over here and see how this little white ball feels to you. You think he doesn't play baseball? Fair point.

But he would not have been allowed to mature into the great basketball player that he is because of the inherent racism in the way that we scout athletes. The same reason why we don't got no white corners. There's a corner I've been on for a long time, pun not intended, that there are plenty of little white slot receivers that could play corner.

But they don't get the chance because coaches are a little bit racist as we all are a little bit racist. But at 6'8", they're gonna put them on a basketball court somewhere. You don't think? I think. But would they let them handle the ball? Like the thing about Cooper Flagg is,

I want a vanilla snack. Hold on. What? Okay, nevermind, go ahead, go ahead. I was just going to say, the reason why Cooper Flagg is the projected number one overall pick in next year's draft and the reason he would have been the number one overall pick in this year's draft is because he has one of these futuristic all around skill sets that is a function of being able to handle the ball, shoot the ball, dunk the ball.

I don't know how good he is defensively. But that was nice. He's a freak athlete. He's gonna block so many shots in college next year. But like, white Wembe, that is the promise of Cooper Flay. More fluid Jason Tatum. Yeah, he's not as tall as white Wembe. He's tall as Wembe.

White Wembe was rich. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's too far. Yeah, he's not that tall. That's the promise of him. Well, I mean, he's not gonna to turn it out to be seven five. But yeah, I think Jason Tatum's probably more accurate seeing him next to Jason Tatum.

He's about the same size already and has a lot of same moves aside from the, like, two-part jump shot. Isn't it funny, though, that the kid is seven feet tall and is like, that's a little small? It's not. He's a little small. I said he was 6'10". And he hasn't done anything yet. We let you stay. Do we have the David Samson clip that I called for earlier?

I think that there shouldn't be a mental health month anymore. What's the jurisdiction on his penalty box? I know, I know. He's seen his anvils. Seriously, Pablo, that's really what you're gonna cut? I think the drive is spoken. We've got a minor penalty for derailing. Come on, chop chop. I'm going.

Thank you, sir. Yeah. Nice legs, though, brother. Very nice legs. Hey, Juju. Thank you, man. I I forgotten that I had that authority I appreciate it. The Dan LeBattard show with Stu Gotz is sponsored by BetterHelp. The impact of social media on mental health is a topic

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Because I don't think you're going to find one from Atlanta. I don't think you're going to find one from D.C. It ain't happening. I'm telling you. Where is Chet Holmgren from? Minnesota boom give it to him. That's pretty good. All right, Larry Bird French like Indiana. Give it to him Jerry Jerry West rural West Virginia. Tell him snack. Tell him snack Kevin McHale, Minnesota That's about it

What about Lucauka, Slovenia? Tyler Hero. Wisconsin. Damn, this is a good theory. Stockton, Spokane, Washington. Jokic, Serbia. Serbia. Serbia?

I made it a Z. Oh man, are you thinking about the tennis guy? Yeah. Zverik, is that what you're thinking about? That made it a Z. Oh man, are you thinking about the tennis guy? Yeah. Zverik? Is that what you're thinking about? He has a jerk. Yeah, he has a jerk. Did y'all see Zarek and Zubac get into it yesterday?

I think Zarek got put in the dope thing. Can you explain that fight for people who did not see that video out of, I believe, Greece? Was Greece where that happened? Right. It looked like a Vegas-style club, but it started right into the action, so you just see him tussling with somebody, then you pan over and Sarek's just on the ground,

laid out until a nice brother let him up. There it is, we got the video. Just some giant whites tussling. It's so long. I don't know how you can be a bad fighter at that size. You got the reach, you got the strength and endurance, but I guess maybe you get outnumbered. Not a lot of practice too,

because no one's going at you. Yeah, that's a fair point. Alex Caruso. Oh, you're on this like a dog with a bone, huh? I'm testing the sociology that we're proposing on this show. They're probably- College Station, Texas. Damn. Damn.

Damn. He does that aggy dance? Yeah, that's- I mean, we have to, now I feel like I wanna go the other way, we have to find, there has to be like some- Who is the best white American player from the blackest place? I mean, a major metropolitan area, I guess I would say.

Bob Cousy. The Cougar High School school Pablo wasn't it no He's from Manhattan. He's from Manhattan. Yeah, the coups the coups is from in Chris Mullin also in New York guy I just mullin yeah, Chris Mullin if you if you listen to Chris Mullin It does sound like he was the process of a cultural exchange very early actually I think yeah Chris Mullin That's impressive Bob Cous, like I don't know, there might have been some other factors involved. Oh, with the Holy Cross College,

Andrew Jackson High School. Gotta respect the Couss, man. The last white guy from Atlanta, Jim Fox. He was a 16 player from Atlanta, Georgia, and he went to high school in Barnesville, Georgia. Salute to Gordon College. Wow. Imagine what it was like to be Cooper in Barnesville, Georgia. Salute to Gordon College. Wow. Imagine what it was like to be Cooper Flag in Maine

growing up. I imagine that he was regarded like a god. Yeah, have you seen Jesus Shuttlesworth visit Rick Fox's school in He Got Game? Yeah. And that's exactly what's happening. Loving basketball on my t-shirt today. But I do think Cooper Flag, when he gets to the NBA,

is going to be a He is the answer to a question which has been plaguing the NBA from a marketing perspective for a really long time which is where the hell did all of our white American boys go? And now they have that clip Damn it. I don't so I Don't know that it's hurt the NBA from a marketing standpoint. What? I don't.

I mean, I think. How are you more optimistic about this than I am? I don't know that I see it. I believe that this has been a massive vacuum when it comes to how the NBA sells itself, since, I mean, since Larry Bird. Yeah, and I guess maybe that's why I don't see it as an issue because I didn't grow up in a world where it mattered. As long as you had, and maybe there's different rules

when it comes to like xenophobic views of it, but as long as you had an American star that was doing incredible things. Zurbian xenophobia. Damn it. The American public would love it. So like the NBA's, the heyday of the NBA, we think about like Jordan and like, yeah,

there was not like a real Stockton hive out there. Like this is just not something that we ever felt like we needed. And maybe with the like globalization of basketball, we'll get to a point where we don't feel like we even need an American star to be fans of this game. But I don't think that there's like an absence or we feel an absence of a white American basketball star. I think what we're going to get is not exactly by any means what Caitlin Clark has done for the WNBA,

but I think it's going to be its own iteration of it because I'm just far more bullish on the idea of the most of the mo- again the actual I think the biggest counter argument to Abnik to why is Cooper Flagg not going to be a sensation fully realized as the white American star is simply because he is a giant and I wonder if like that's too tall actually in terms of relatability but other than that the dude is going to be this this messianic figure for I for a lot of people in the way that Caitlin Clark was at a lighter level. What if he's Sean Bradley? Here we go.

What a button. I'm willing to bet you one American dollar that he would not be Sean Bradley. Yeah, I think that there, so sometimes it's tough when we try to analogize different sports because there's a lot of different contexts in it that I think that they're, so sometimes it's tough when we try to analogize different sports because there's a lot of different contexts in it that I think matters a lot more. The WNBA size and also the history of the WNBA is very different than the NBA. It's going to be hard for Cooper Flag to become the same type of figure and he's not going to represent that same thing. So while I do recognize and I'm sure that Chris is probably an example that could speak to this, or I could speak to it

myself, also when you have someone who looks like you doing something in a sport or in any industry where there aren't many people like that, like I became a Tiger Woods fan. Great Asian American athlete, Tiger Woods. Both of us. We can high five over that i'd never watched it golf before that but i became a fan so i suspect that there will be some of that with cooper flag but i don't think it'll be nearly on the caitlin clark's level and it won't be the main story like no one's gonna care the main story it will be the main story the and then

i think caitlin clark is obviously going to be in order of magnitude greater greater than Cooper Flagg. I just think when Chris says Zurbia, it reminds me of how it's remarkable that the foreign white guy does not read as one of them, them being Chris, I guess, broadly speaking. I think that's just been- Make one mistake, Jesus.

I think that's been a noted sociological phenomenon. That there's a foreignness to the former, yeah, to the Baltic state, Balkans and the Baltics. What are you chuckling about? I think that there shouldn't be a mental health month anymore. That's what I'm chuckling about. That that is where we've gotten to from this entire morning.

When Dominique starts, you don't understand that we're all off our game when we're looking at his sack in the four minutes leading up to the start of the show. Speak for yourself. Yeah, it's your choice. Your eyes, your choice, buddy. I was trying to be protective of you. Oh, my sack don't need protection?

I'm good, baby. We're fine. For sure it needs protection. I was trying to be protective of you. Oh, my side don't need protection, I'm good, baby. We're fine. He for sure needs protection. The Brian James said that Bronte does not give a F about the criticism. What do you guys think of that? Is that a malarkey or is it?

Would you know your son well enough to say that? I have a son and I would not be willing to say what he is sensitive to and what he's not sensitive to. I believe nobody resembles that description. The idea that he doesn't care about anything anyone says is not true of literally anybody that I've ever met, heard of, known, read about, experienced. Except Bronnie.

I think LeBron's doing a lot. Yeah. I think LeBron, what was actually most fascinating? I would say it's unlikely. However, none of us can say that we've had the experience that Bronnie has had. It's different, you probably feel differently about criticism if from the day you were born, your father and your family

has been under a particular spotlight. So if it's possible, someone who was born in that darkness might be comfortable in that darkness more so than the rest of us. I think it's hugely unlikely, but that's the argument for it. But it's also him speaking for Brawny yet again while saying Brawny's his own person. I thought the most fascinating part about that quote

was actually LeBron kind of admitting to something that lots of us who've covered LeBron or just been around sports media have known, which is that LeBron is the opposite. LeBron basically said in that same quote, I am somebody who does listen. I'm somebody who does care what people say. When I was coming up to Dominique's point

as the first of his kind, he was litigating with the press, was managing his reputation from the very beginning. He was the next of his kind. I don't like that we always say this is the first of his kind. No, because I think it's the internet era that is the thing that certainly separates and the sports TV, 24-7 aspect of it, David, that separates Michael from LeBron. And I think the question then is like how different is The world that brawny has entered from a media perspective than the world that LeBron entered and dominated

He had that he was on the cover of your magazine And I think it was under the chosen one when he was how was he 16 for those who don't know LeBron James He was Cooper flag before Cooper flag He was a black Cooper flag What kind of flag? You're telling me that Cooper flag is the next, this is what the scouting report is? All right, I guess I'm wrong.

He's the next LeBron James. He's not the next LeBron James, but he's been kind of picked as the obvious number one for a number of years now. He's a guy that's good enough to tank for. Like he's going to be really good. There's tanking for Cooper happening. Yeah, for sure. All right. Even though you can't tank for the number one pick going to be really good. There's tanking for Cooper, has. Yeah. For sure, all right.

Even though you can't tank for the number one pick anymore. Poop for Coop. You can poop for Coop, you can get a higher percentage. That's sick. Yeah, which is still a tank. He's probably a Durand or Anthony Davis level prospect going into college basketball, as an earnest take of how good he is.

Yeah. I just think that Bronnie James grows up, he chooses to play basketball. He's good at it. He's a college player. He's drafted. He understands the business of pressure. I just think that he doesn't want his father to talk to him.

It's for him anymore. And I noticed it during the opening press conference. I noticed it again yesterday. At some point you say to your dad, all right, I got this now. Agreed. He's not at that point yet. I mean, I don't think that, there will come a point when I think everyone has to kind of fully be their own man.

And for most kids, it's not after their freshman year of college. So like, get off of everybody's backs, Samson. But isn't LeBron just making it worse by continuing to make this a story? Like, just stop talking about Brawny and people will forget about it. The way the news cycle works. You should just say what David Samson said.

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This is the Dan Lebatar Show with the Stugats! Got a little surprise for my man Pablo. Where the hell did all of our white American boys go? I'll tell you. They're in the quarters of Wimbledon. Wow. What a professional, a professional segue as Kravitz and and Dominique celebrates so we got two guys in the quarterfinals one of them is feels like right now kind of a bit of

My man Tommy Paul. I gotta be honest with you. I'm a big Carlos Alcaraz fan He might be one of the most explosive athletes I've seen who's not playing defensive back in the NFL He's incredible. He's going up against Tommy Paul, and Tommy Paul's an American, and I have to kind of pretend like I want Tommy to win because he's an American. But honestly, at 9.15 or 10 o'clock,

whenever this match actually starts, I'm in on Big Lose. King Lose gonna give him the business. Do you feel that you're not being patriotic if you don't root for the American in that case? I never thought that way. Aren't you rooting if you like Alcares, you should want him to win? I do, that's what I just said.

I was wondering that too, and is there a difference in the Olympics, for example? If you're rooting against America in the Olympics, is that unpatriotic? Like, is that where the line is? I can root against American athletes in other competitions, but if it's the Olympics, I need to root for my country no matter what.

Also, why does Puerto Rico have a team? Whoa, whoa, whoa, put it right there with the Samson quotes. You are on team Samson. Damn. It's territory. It's territory. So I believe here's me. From an Olympic standpoint,

the Olympics were a really big thing during the Cold War when you really felt you want America to win everything because it was an FU to the CCCP. That's that USSR. But now I think it's much less so. I think that now that the Cold War is gone for all intents and purposes, I feel less guilty during the Olympics.

I wouldn't find it outrageous to root for Giannis if I were a Milwaukeean, which I am, and root for Greece to beat the US in basketball. I root against Burrhalter and them boys. I heard Mike talking, I was like, yeah, I hope they lose to get him a body. Burrhalter or Mike? It's not Mike, I love you Mike, wherever you are.

You have my heart. Is there anything that can happen to make you root for, because I gotta be honest, when Hussain Bolt was out there riding, I kinda wanted him to break the records, I kinda wanted him to win, I kinda wanted him to keep being awesome. So kind of wanted him to win. I kind of wanted him to keep being awesome. So like, you weren't rooting for Usain Bolt?

Or you didn't feel you were rooting for patriotism? I don't feel that I was rooting for patriotism. So you wanted him to lose. You wanted him not to break the world record. You wanted somebody else to get it. No, I actually didn't think of it in those terms. I'd like seeing records broken for sure. But this is the most American position

to be so secure in yourself as a country that you don't care about the Olympics and the way these other countries do. I used to. No, but that's what I'm saying is that when you talk about, yes, in the Cold War, Russia, the former Soviet Union, cared so deeply about all of this,

expressing greatness through sports, that it was your primary way of expressing dominance against your aspirational rivals, the countries you wanted to be on the same level as, such as the United States. I mean, it still matters. It's like when the Olympics were in China and when the Olympics were in Russia, they made a great point to try to build up these teams. Their entire governments, in many cases, are complicit in doping scandals because they believe that sports in like some value, some personal value and affinity for your country,

like it's very much matters. It matters more to them than America. It's happening now. I mean, look, so to Dominique's point, like if you didn't see Icarus, the Netflix documentary. Should watch it. Yeah, state sponsored doping scandal

resulted in Russia being ousted and then reentered underneath what it was called, the Russian. With no flag. flash an Olympic team or committee. It's insane. Um, the, the episode side, side, no, but related directly to the episode we just did today on public Torrey finds out is about how the most corrupt sport is fencing and fencing has been corrupted by a Russian oligarch in the present tense. One of the hundred, they do steroids.

I didn't watch your episode yet. It's about a referee in crisis in which half of the top 20 referees in the present tense. One of the hundred- Did they do steroids? I didn't watch your episode yet. It's about a refereeing crisis in which half of the top 20 referees in the world, allegedly, in saber fencing have been corrupted and flip matches according to bribery and favors and geopolitical incentives, which is all to say that this stuff is so real right now to lots of other places

that when it trickles into America, it's kind of like, whoa! I mean, Michael Phelps spoke to Congress about the doping. In China. Yeah, the Chinese doping scandal with their swimmers. So it's something that matters to a lot of different countries. But I guess this is an admission that I don't have to make. But I guess I assume that other people had this feeling also.

But I think it kind of depends on what you identify as first. But when I was a kid and I was watching the Olympics, I was rooting for the black folk. If America didn't have a black dude, I was rooting for the black dude. And it wasn't like six, seven, eight years old, I remember like at that age watching sports and was like, hey, root for the black dude.

Were you the exact age of Cool Runnings of the Jamaican bobsled team? The movie. Oh, not the actual, am I off on years? Is that really a long time ago? David's defense, this was, I don't know when it happened in reality, but certainly the movie was 93,

and I was eight at the time. I mean, this does tie into the Cooper flag conversation, and it is about identity, and it is about some level of personal pride, and you see yourself in the athletes that are out there and as we watched like the Euros, the Euros specifically is like mind-blowing to me. It's so funny to see this. Right, go ahead. No, just because every empire, France, Spade, like England, the players that are now the stars of those teams are the colonized products of empire.

And it's just funny that you can, anyway, it's very complicated for that reason. There are lots of teams, by the way, the Philippines World Cup women's soccer team was assembled basically in America because there weren't enough good, like native Filipino women, and so they assembled all of these part-Filipina people from around the world,

and it got to be a successful experiment, and then, most recently this year, disbanded because it wasn't actually enough of the country in the minds of the people in the country. Because this is the dynamic of like, is this really us is the question, I think underneath all of it. I mean, it's interesting to me that they disbanded it

because there was some pushback, because my assumption is if you're winning, you don't care. I was furious. Yeah, like most people are like, well, they can represent us as long as they make their penalties. As soon as they miss them penalties, they are all the slurs, right? Because we're all just after the win.

It doesn't really matter. The World Baseball Classic, they put the team Israel together. You know, if you have, if you're anywhere Jewish, anywhere, or you can be on the Italian team if you've had, you know, gone to Carbone. You can be on team at Italy for the World Baseball Classic. And so it's done for the purpose of putting the best team possible together.

Which I think is how it should always be. Also, why does Puerto Rico have a team? I mean. Let me get Tony Perez on the phone and see if he has a view of that. Tony Perez is Cuban. You would not view himself that way. I think I've asked Tony that.

I think he would've asked Tony that. I think he would say he's Puerto Rican. Carbone is an Italian restaurant that we went to dinner at last night and it is like a caricature. So it's delicious, it's incredible. When I go to New York, I go there all the time. I've been with Charlie, I go with my wife, I go by myself and we went last night

to the Carbone in Miami. The food is delicious, but when you walk in in they got like a playlist and it's just like three songs on repeat that were in goodfellas It's outstanding. I thought I was gonna get whacked actually I had not been there in In Miami and I didn't like how I felt I felt I needed to sit So I chose if you notice where I needed to sit. So I chose, if you'll notice, where I sat at the table. So David will enter a restaurant, not just the one that is playing mafia cosplay, and he will choose the seat that is most defended

if he were to suffer an assassination attempt. It's just, I need the ability to escape, I need the ability, I can't. It's not a joke. No, this is. Me and David are the same person, on a lot of fronts, except a lot of fronts except a lot of friends Who's coming after you?

It's gonna murder People at the dinner I would say Most killable most killable this is a Greg Cody move to of like he always likes I don't know if it's like escape, but it's like I need to see he always wants to have his back Like he wants to be facing the entrance. So like wherever the front door is, I need to be looking that way. So me and my family, what we do is we try to get there first. So he has only the seat not facing.

That's like a fun- And you don't show him the respect to give him? No, we do. It's like a fun game to like, it's a fun game to go to the seats, have him be like, oh, can I? And then we make him feel bad. It's just a fun game.

I don't worry about being actually assassinated. I like, I feel trapped all the time in my life and I like the ability to see everything that's happening so I can see all escape routes and I can plan what can be my next move. So like sitting inside a booth, like at a coffee shop where there's a four person booth, you'd never see me on the inside of that booth.

How do you get out? So you're an aisle seat guy? You're a private check guy. Do I have priority check in? No, you're an aisle seat guy? Yes. If I'm flying with somebody, I'll sit on the window. You're a PJ bro?

He also is. I don't know what you mean. Flying private. No, no. Why is there so much judgment on the PJ is worried about the carbon footprint. Oh, no From cows than private jet. I have a question for you guys about sound like a real PJ guys statement But yeah, we move on so did you guys see that the Olympics like I guess in like the athlete village or whatever? They weren't air-conditioned because they were worried about the emissions. And then team USA is like, nah, we're going to take our own AC units anyways.

Smart. Yeah. I think there, so that feels like something that is like performative, you know, like. It's a Europe thing. There's not a lot of air conditioning in Europe. Yeah, Europe, what's the deal with, what's the deal? They don't care. They do not care about air conditioning. They keep the windows open. There are people. They do not care about air conditioning.

They keep the windows open. There are people in Europe, if they have air, they put it on just at night for a few hours, but they're happy at 8182 Fahrenheit. My father-in-law must be from Europe. Can I? Man, you go over that house, it's just, I always give my wife the look.

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