The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: I'm Just Spitballing

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

God Bless Football will come out later today since Billy and Stugotz have an interview scheduled with Austin Ekeler, so we get FRESH TAKES from the duo on the NFL. Then, Stugotz tries to get a sponsor...ship, Mike Ryan has information but is not a journalist, and the transfer portal has some incredible message-boarding going on. Plus, Chip Kelly has an idea for the future of College Football, Jessica runs out of breath giving takes, and...is Miami going to miss out on their QB? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshall with the Stugat Spatcast. Stugat, you may have noticed that after football Sundays for a few months right now A lot of people have crawled into the space between the games are over and 9 a.m. Eastern Shannon Sharp is there with Ocho The part my take and Bill Simmons podcast come out on Sunday night West Coast time take and Bill Simmons podcast come out on Sunday night, West Coast time. Football here, there are a lot of people to be grabbed this morning. And God bless football gets in early, tries to get in so early that they compete against good morning football, which 7 a.m.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It's hard to compete with. But today I'm told, because Austin Eccler is going to be available. I am told that God bless football has not come out yet and now we are getting in this been a while since we got the stugots is original takes are gonna appear here first on this show instead of his property with billy god bless football we're gonna get his football maximum takes and billy's takes i mean we gave the takes we just haven't released the takes yet that's that's the deal well no like but also you can control repeating the same things like it's a hundred percent within your control like I will not repeat the same things but
Starting point is 00:01:30 then like you'd agree the decision was made that austin ecler we're going to talk to him today we're going to release it today we're not going to sit on that until friday doesn't make any sense that's correct brand is daily has been fired relieved i think at this point right right? Like, not just relieved, is a verb, but relieved, like, oh, I can go home now, stop bothering me with this. Not just relieved from his duties, you're saying. That's right. There's relief in this. Oh, my God. He wants to be a head coach. There's no relief. Just embarrassment. That's fine. He does want to be a head coach, but not for these last three games.
Starting point is 00:02:00 There's no point. Exactly. Wilson yesterday, he gets a concussion. Was it worth it? No, he was reluctant to play. He should have been. There's no point. Exactly. Well, since yesterday, he gets a concussion. Was it worth it? No, he was reluctant to play. He should have been. That's why. He didn't need the brain damage in pursuit of that. Right. But we'll get to the jets in a second. What I want to know about what is happening with Billy and you and God bless football. Is is there a device that Billy, you can alert me when he's
Starting point is 00:02:24 giving a recycled take that will now appear on a dated God bless football, but a take that hasn't come out yet. So he'd be giving it here first, but then you'd hear it again on God bless football. Stugots loves to recycle and reheat stuff. We're fairly safe today. I think unless you want to play a game of if the season ended today, in which we break down the playoff matchups as they stand today.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It was great. No, thank you. I mean, for Tan, Bengals Chiefs. Oh, wow. That's a big one. Who wins, huh? If the season ended today. Is it Dolphins Colts?
Starting point is 00:02:56 But here's the twist on our... I thought it's Dolphins. Go with that. Here's our twist on if the season ended today, Dan. The health also ends today. Yes. So we don't know if Tyreek is going to be good to play in the playoffs if the season ended today, Dan. The health also ends today. So we don't know if Tyreek is gonna be good to play in the playoffs because the season ended today. See, that's the twist.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Okay, and so because Stugat's is good at mailing it in and loves to recycle and reheat and told us last week and I didn't know this was possibly, just said, well yeah, I just only got so many takes. And I can't, so I gotta repeat some of them. I gotta get them out multiple times because I'm out of material basically. Yeah, and I asked Jessica and Billy When you walked in today If this was the eighth straight month of consecutive days that you have worn that same outfit
Starting point is 00:03:39 on a Monday just in general. I've worn this sweatshirt every day One to two times per week for the last I want to say 12 to 15 weeks. Yeah. You also come here one to two times a week. Yeah. Well, I come here three times a week, four times a week now because of Fridays. So I have a rotation of four different Travis Matthew sweatshirts that I'll continue to wear until someone in sales picks up on the fact that I like Travis Matthew. I like their hats, I like their sweatshirts, I want to get a deal done with them, and no one in sales is taking a hit.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Let's go, let's go. Thank you. Come on, Feldman, but I'll take them off after we get the deal done. Wait, why would you do that? That's a good point, I don't know. In Travis Matthew's defense, you're doing the advertising for them for free. Why would they give you any money? All right. So stop wearing this. This is my point. My overall point is two
Starting point is 00:04:28 guys to take machine. He's running out of takes. We got to squeeze the running out of sweatshirts. We got to squeeze the rest of what's left out of it. He doesn't have that much more interest. The jets have broken him. He went to a football game yesterday. He comes in bragging. Yeah. I went to a football game yesterday and realized why I don't go to football games. I got to tell you though, hard rock stadium. I have not been there since I can't ever remember the last time it was it's gorgeous. It really is. They have enhanced that stadium.
Starting point is 00:04:54 It was nice. We sat in the Dolphins sideline. There is a definite advantage to sitting on that sideline as opposed to the road team sideline because it's really sunny on that sideline. So the stadium is beautiful. Mike has told me it's beautiful. The enhancements are great. The food was delightful.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Here's the problem. I'm stuck watching the jets. When I watch it home and the jets are down 30 to nothing and they're not getting the ball over midfield until the third quarter, I could switch off from the game. When I'm at the game, I'm stuck watching the jets. Well, let's talk about this for a second because the jets were mathematically eliminated. What I'm about to say is fairly shocking, right? The Patriots gave up the division and it looks like December is going to give us a hell of a game, Buffalo Miami, at the end of the season,
Starting point is 00:05:37 for like a lot of important things. And Buffalo's scary. And Buffalo's gone from a fifteen percent chance of making the playoffs according to the new york times model to before beating down is forty nine percent chance of making the playoffs how about new york times status sports don't need it from the new york times well they did literally close their sports task earlier this year keep your models also we don't need it and the jobs to non-union employees you know we had a thing, and I thought about you
Starting point is 00:06:05 this weekend, Jess, in where S.I. wrote an article where they were quoting something Peter King said on Godless. Football and I legitimately was wondering if this was like an AI article that is somehow like now taking content from podcasts and crediting, which I thought was great, but it didn't make me wonder, did a person actually write this? It's a good question. There was a big shakeup at the top of sports
Starting point is 00:06:25 illustrated last week. They have a new person operating the allegedly a person. A person allegedly a person running the vitamin company. And it does seem like two people. I don't think this was because of the AI thing, but two people at the top of the company are now no longer at the company. But I think questions will persist,
Starting point is 00:06:43 whether robots are writing articles because that's what you do to yourself when you have robots write articles. Peter King and Billy are going to be washing dishes against each other coming up. In January, he made up your, he said anytime you want and then we said next week and he said can't. Well, I, I said, I said that you had to tell Peter King Peter King is an icon a legend It's fairly amazing to see Peter King out last sports illustrated as a brand as still one of these information insiders from a different time His information is great his contacts are great and Billy the Duke is coming
Starting point is 00:07:26 For what Peter King has always been and always had he's coming to be the king and they're going to wash dishes against each other but Billy said before the show Billy what can I reveal here because you're saying you're playing the long no the long game well you have said of Peter King Game game close to passing and buy who said that I didn't say that no because I didn't we have dishes to wash Not against each other mind you with each other separate But with each other, you know what I mean? It's not a competition. We're not seeing who can wash the dishes the fastest Here's the thing is one washing one drying that kind of thing. This is what happened. No, no We just a two sinks. We started yeah, he's gonna have his sink and I'm gonna have my sink over to be his kitchen I'll be in mine. Yeah, because it loses a little something. No, it won't lose anything.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I'm telling you, you're gonna see that me and him have almost identical kitchens. That's what we figured out when we were talking to each other. We just started talking. You know what happens? When sometimes people just talk, they get to know each other and you just realize, you know what?
Starting point is 00:08:17 That's what, honestly, guys, this is what the world needs. We just need to talk to each other more. And you're gonna see the person right next to you, the person in front of you the person on the zoom Across from you they have more in common with you than you actually think and if we could just set aside the differences that we have and Focus on the things we have in common the world would be a wonderful place and that's what happened with Peter King and I when we were talking And he said he didn't realize he was on a podcast at the moment We were just talking about how we like to wash dishes
Starting point is 00:08:44 He said he likes to fold clothes as he was on a podcast at the moment. We were just talking about how we like to wash dishes. He said he likes to fold clothes, he says he likes to make his bed, which I think is a total waste of time, but I'm not focusing on that difference. I'm focusing on our commonalities. And the two of us both enjoy washing dishes. I want you guys like swaying next to each other
Starting point is 00:08:58 as like you pass over the dish to dry, like a married couple would. Put it on the pole, please, Jude. Is making your bed a total waste of time at levitar show so did he ever say anything bad about Peter King and the pastor no never this is the thing okay he says he's playing the long game because the long game ends with that's the victory they washed dishes together and he's protecting that because god bless football is compromised by us how dare not a journal are you talking you serve not a
Starting point is 00:09:26 journalistic entity not not yet yet you keep getting rewarded for it with international acclaim that makes you surpassed Peter King according to guardians rankings on a football on being a football expert you are scared of the bills don't lie to me we are trying around here stugots we're dropped to dick you're scared of the bills don't lie to me. Bukie bar. We are trying around here, Stugots. He dropped a dick. He's scared. We are trying to do a new kind of journalism.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah. Billy wants to be the modern version of what Peter King is. That's what he, I do. The modern version. And Mike is a genuine insider. He knows what's going on in the portal.
Starting point is 00:10:07 He is in the business of it. And I just wanted to do this, man. Mike Ryan, I want 90 seconds of good insider information from new media. You're a booster, you're also a businessman, you're an information person. And we're compromised. Well, he's another one.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Another compromised journalistic entity. Some might call it evolution. I call it totally biased. I am not a journalist either. I'm just a member of the media, but I am not a journalist. Don Lebertard. Team A's cans shoot from three.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Now they're gonna see a different Jimmy. Now he's just just playing Nickelback in the locker room and two guts They'll play D and show threes as I chase the net for the six seed these five words in his head To be my way winning games. Yeah, this is the down lebertar show with this two gods. However, your information is very good. And Lucy and Jessica have been inside of the business understanding what's happening in the portal. I've been learning because I don't, you have to understand I'm watching a business change in front of me. It's disorienting like I don't understand. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Quarterbacks are now two and three million dollars or like what where are the numbers? I can't believe that we're making it this overt where Desmond Ritter is paid less than some of the better quarterbacks who teams are now fighting for because what a great investments do got I can fill my stadium Carolina Panthers can't fill their stadium right the better quarterbacks who teams are now fighting for, because what a great investment still got. I can fill my stadium, Caroline and Panthers can't fill their stadium right now. I can fill my stadium if I just give a quarterback, two million dollars.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Well, and also, if I can get other people to give a quarterback two million dollars because you get the benefits of filling your stadium, you get that TV contract, and someone else pays for the labor. So the injustice is still around. You talk about transparency and how this is a business now and a couple days ago, several days ago,
Starting point is 00:12:12 Matt Rool addressed media and he was asked directly because they've been in the market for a quarter back about what is this quarterback market? You make no mistake that a good quarterback in the portal costs a million to a million five to two million dollars $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 right now. So just want to save page. So let's make sure we all understand what's happening.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So there are some teams that have $6 or $7,000,000 players playing for them. That's accurate. That's right around what the market place is for a quarterback. And as you mentioned, guys like Damien Ritter and Brock Purty, yeah, there are several, there are several college football quarterbacks that are making more money than starting NFL quarterbacks these days. I don't necessarily think that's right. But that's the marketplace that we're in right now. Matt Rool, didn't Nebraska just get a giant recruit? What's that back story? Raiola. Yeah, they flipped them from Dylan Raiola was the nation's
Starting point is 00:13:08 number one quarterback commit. He hasn't flipped, but he got what is in recruiting terms called the crystal ball, which is, I mean, apropos for our head coach, but a crystal ball projection that he's going into Nebraska and those are fairly, fairly strongly in that industry. So in this game, Matt Rule in one year has aligned his resources and been able to flip a 5-star quarterback from the present two-time defending national champion. That is a sea change and it shows you that Nebraska will have the resources to compete and they were in the big 10 presently with a huge juicy TV deal and that is their economy. So they're investing in their economy and that's a pretty big sep for Nebraska. I know it's weird Dan to have college quarterbacks making more than some NFL quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:13:54 It's weird. It's going to take a minute to get used to it. But I'm okay with it from this standpoint. You have teams or programs like Syracuse who never had a chance at getting a kid like Kyle McCord, the Ohio State quarterback. And now because Ohio State has three or four good quarterbacks and they have new ones coming in every year, McCord thinks he's not going to play Syracuse has the money to get McCord and now Kyle McCord is the Syracuse quarterback.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It's more opportunity for more programs. And Van Dyke is now at Wisconsin and this is, you're going to have to win in the margin some with this because this is this is such a sea change to got nabrasca doesn't have any pre ordained right to be great football but they built it like link in nabrasca is a place because corn husker football was winning championships at a time in america where the business was hidden and tom osborne can rule the earth beating berry switzer in the option off end and now Nebraska Has to evolve into this modern version. They hired Scott Frost to got they were gonna do it with hey Let's get the hot new coach. Oh never mind the whole business has changed now. Let's go get the failed pro coach
Starting point is 00:14:57 From Carolina and he's gonna tell everybody hey if you want me to actually be good at this I need more money and they're all panhandling. They're panhandling to make their programs better. I mean, the panhandling is a great point because there have been coaches with varying results, right? Layden Kiffin for the last three years has taken the opportunity every time to basically fundraise and say, we need more to compete here. Dave Doran, the NC State head coach, they were about to be talent rated.
Starting point is 00:15:27 NC State has totally turned their season around. He made, he sounded the claxon. We need to keep our guys. It's fascinating. We need people to compete in NIL. They kept a wide receiver and concepcy on that a lot of teams were in on and they got a quarterback from Coastal Carolina. They beat out UCF 4.
Starting point is 00:15:45 So this is basically politics. It's fundraising in that sense. And Matt Roleso and a pretty good job of it so far. What I like about it is that this year, if you look at the three quarterbacks that were invited to the Heisman Saint-Romone, they were all transfers who had more or less like a tough time with their first choice.
Starting point is 00:16:03 As like Bonaix had a really tough time at Auburn, was not a great player. Transfer's to Oregon ends up putting up insane numbers and does really well. It becomes a Heisman finalist, same with Michael Pennix, same with Jane Daniels, had a really tough go of it at Arizona State like we've talked about before. And so there's opportunities for players.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Maybe you made the wrong choice or you didn't, it wasn't the right fit for you at whatever school you ended up going to, but then you transfer and you end up in the right situation with the right coach and the right team for you and you have an opportunity to have a little bit of a second chance in your career. Going back to Raiola for a second, this went viral on message board geniuses on Twitter. Great account. They post, they like rake through all the college football message boards and find the most just unhinged posts.
Starting point is 00:16:46 It's been a lot of FSU lately. That's true. And this was after Dylan Reola was rumored to be thinking of flipping to Nebraska. The header of this post from the dogs HQ message board is does anyone here work at Hartfield Jackson Airport? And then the post says, it's being reported that Reolable visit Nebraska on Friday. I assume that he'll take the 2.21 PM Delta flight, which is also the last flight of the day to the state.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Therefore, if this flight gets canceled, he likely won't be able to make the trip and will stay committed to UGA. Obviously, messing with commercial flights is a slippery slope. So I'm not suggesting that anybody does anything illegal, but does anyone who works for Delta? If some loyal UGA pilots or flight attendants call in sick at the last minute, the flight could be canceled and we could keep Raiola. Maybe someone working could hold the flight up for maintenance issues. At the very least, he could, quote, lose his
Starting point is 00:17:37 checked bags. So you have to experience the Nebraska winter with that. Not suggesting that. I'm just spitballing ideas. But if anyone knows anything else, those would also be appreciated. All right. Let me take a step back here, Stegots, on how it is that we're covering this stuff, because she just brought up a lot of things there. And I want to get to Mike giving us
Starting point is 00:17:55 the latest information on what it is that's happening at the University of Miami, where they need to get a quarterback. And it seems like they've got an all or nothing plan. And Stegots, when I look at what is happening in that sport, kids get to the wrong fit, whether it's Bonaix, I thought it was the right fit. Like, it was, you know, it was a beautiful story. He's dad played there.
Starting point is 00:18:14 It was a beautiful story. Yeah. And now they have more freedom and more options. And so, the sport is hard to play, the position is hard to play. They arrive as kids, and the three Heisman finalists had to find a new place where they learned and got more reps outside of Indiana, going to other cities playing bigger football, using the pipeline to the way it's supposed
Starting point is 00:18:35 to be used. Minor league business that gets you to the pros. It's great that they have those options. It's wonderful that they have those options. But the whole thing is changing where we're paying kids, they were 17 or 18 years old, $2 million and changing their life instantaneously, coming out of high school and we're covering it like we used to do with, we're all now the recruiting letters. Because this is a bigger, bigger thing and we care so much about Saturdays, we're all Tom Lemmings now and we're more and more comfortable going younger and younger Into the pipeline where you're paying kids and changing lives and bringing to these lives Some some unscrupulous behaviors to gots because Mike's got information here on on what a school is doing to make sure that it can get the kids
Starting point is 00:19:22 And win in the margins if they don't have the money, the kind of places you have to do shady business. Yeah, I would like to say, and I know that you know this, Dan, but many in our audience who are just listening to your take may feel like you're conflating NIL with shady business practices in college football. No, those have always been around. There's a bit more transparency now,
Starting point is 00:19:43 and they're in terms of the people providing resources, that net is wider, and so in some respects, loose lips, synch ships, and other universities that had these tight circles where things could stay within the circle, I have had to expand their circles, and then you get more things like message for geniuses over there.
Starting point is 00:20:05 But for example, I know where you're leading me to, there's an SEC power that one of their moves, if they're recruiting a kid, is occasionally they might enforce some influence in the penal system and see how they can help out a relative that might be behind bars. And that is a move that is old. That is not some new thing that NIL has brought forth.
Starting point is 00:20:29 The marketplace does need a market correction. We're gonna get to some sound from Chip Kelly. He was a really bright guy, and he has some thoughts about where college football should head on. I'm very curious to get your thoughts on it, because I think there's a closest thing to a good solution that I've heard.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And it's coming from someone that had to move to the Big Ten to compete. But since this is still technically the local hour, let's briefly talk about Miami's chase right now, which is extended well beyond several deadlines that they have instituted. They had both Will Howard and Kim Ward in on campus last week. They would tell.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Can I stop you? I'd like bells and whistles on this, because this seems like it's coming here. Hot and heavy stagots. I'm telling you, Miami has in my grion an insider, unlike the Barry Jackson's and the scoop sliders, Mike is inside this machine. Can we make this?
Starting point is 00:21:17 This is big news. Mike Ryan has the latest in recruiting information. Who? That's not, yeah. I mean, he wanted bells and whistles though. Well, you got this. And if you're in the know, if you're in the know, there's a lot of great reporters that follow Miami.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So a lot of this stuff is public knowledge, such as the visits from Will Howard and Cam Ward, where we are is Miami had a Thursday, a three o'clock deadline and as we unfolded, that actually got shifted up to Wednesday. And now it's still, the word was cam ward wanted to make a decision yesterday, that still hasn't happened. And I can tell you, genuinely,
Starting point is 00:21:58 I have no idea who Miami's quarterback is gonna be, if I had to guess, I'd venture a guess, but they could have had Will Howard, the Kansas State quarterback. They could have had him and they would tell people last week that there really isn't a difference between these two quarterbacks. They rate them both, but Will Howard was ready to commit then and there. So if there was no difference, then why not just take the commitment from Will Howard, seems
Starting point is 00:22:22 to me like there is internally a bit of a difference in how they rate Cam commitment from Will Howard. Seems to me like there is internally, a bit of a difference in how they rate cam ward and Will Howard. The evolution on it is it appears since a five star quarterback that is presently on USC's roster has entered the portal. That'd be a pretty big indicator that a new talent is coming in. And the most recent reports have Will Howard go into USC.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Ooh. So where Miami stands in right now with cam ward is cam ward unless there's a mystery school out there. And I guess you could throw Ohio State going to USC. Ooh. So where Miami stands in right now with Cam Ward is Cam Ward, unless there's a mystery school out there, and I guess you could throw Ohio State in the mix, even though I haven't heard anything with regards to them in Cam Ward is the decision for Cam Ward is Miami or FSU.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Oh! That is not news. What is Miami's backup plan, Mike? Miami's backup plan was Will Howard Howard and that's gone to USC. So I guess a name that has been bounced around has been KJ Jefferson or you just retain your guys and you develop them or maybe just wait till the spring. I liked him. I liked KJ Jefferson. I liked him outside of Danny.
Starting point is 00:23:21 For a market size, been there for 10 years. I bet okay. Who cares? I mean, I liked him outside of Danny, you know, so for a market size been there for 10 years. Okay, who cares? I mean, I liked him outside of Danny, you know, so his offense, but where Miami stands right now, is there in a recruiting? Well, it used to be called the recruiting battle. Now it's a negotiation with Camoron and his reps and it's been reported on what he is looking for there. Ironically enough, even though Miami is reputed to be this big NIL school, when it comes
Starting point is 00:23:43 to that position, Florida State is as competitive as anyone in the nation. And you have a school in Florida State that desperately needs a win because players are jettisoning left and right. So it'll be a great battle. News and information supported by Chris Coteys ad lib genius. Adlib Genius! Russ Springer Paul Sorrento Alvaro Espinoza Jeremy Burnitz, Bud Black,
Starting point is 00:24:27 Chad O.J., Julian Tavaris, Paul Asenmacher, Alan Embry, Alan Embrie. Alright, I want to toss to this Chip Kelly sound and video that we teased before because I think it's a pretty good solution with where things are headed because it's pretty wild right now and It's been dubbed the Wild West by Head coaches in front of microphones who used to have an honor among thieves about them and and it's been dubbed the Wild West by head coaches in front of microphones who used to have an honor among thieves about them.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And they're just openly saying, yeah, this is a bit crazy. And a lot of coaches are telling you by saying in the pros or leaving like Joe Brady was a hot name in college football circles, that guy could have had plenty of head coaching jobs. He wanted to be a quarterbacks coach at Carolina and he's now presently turning around the Buffalo Bills as they're O.C. There is really no big time rewards outside of money when it comes to college football coaching. But Chip Kelly has seen the lay of the land.
Starting point is 00:25:34 He's seen a lot of other coaches take his style and improve on it. And he's a pretty good veteran, savvy veteran of the game. And he's watched all this happen and he has a couple of possible. What is the the biggest issue that you might have right now whether be realignment and IEL trans-reportal and what would your your plan maybe be to to try to solve it? I think they're all a problem and I think we need to have a conference commissioner and I think football should be separate from the other sports just the fact that our school is leaving to go to the big ten and football our our softball team should be playing Arizona and softball.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Our basketball team should be playing Arizona and basketball, but because football left, and they say, well, how do you do that? Well, Notre Dame's independent in football, and they're in a conference and everything else. I think we should all be independent in football. And you can have a 64 team conference that's in the Power Five,
Starting point is 00:26:22 and you can have a 64 team conference in the group of five, and we separate it, and we play each other You can have the West Coast teams and then every year we play seven games against the West Coast teams and then we play the East So we play Syracuse Boston College pit West Virginia Virginia Then the next year you play against the South while you still play your seven teams you can play seven came Congratulations, you can play four against another conference another division opponent And you can always play against one mountain west team every year so that we can still keep those rivalries going.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Not that I've really thought about this. Not that I've a lot of time on this. But I think if you went together collectively as a group, and so there's 132 teams, and we all share the same TV contract, so that the Mountain West doesn't have one, and the Sun Belt doesn't have another, and SEC has one, and they they have another that we all go together
Starting point is 00:27:06 That's a lot of games and there's a lot of people in the TV world that will go through it You can sponsor each one instead of calling a group of five and power five you can call it Amazon Nike bid that out to things you know a lot of different things But I think if we still do the same thing and take all that money and I would do this and I think this needs to be done That money now needs to be shared with the student athletes, and there needs to be revenue sharing. The players should get paid, and you can get rid of NLI, and the school should be paying the players,
Starting point is 00:27:31 because the players are what the product is. And the fact that they don't get paid is really the biggest travesty. Not that I've thought about it. Stu Gatz, this is interesting because of who's saying, I know he's falling off the map, I know he's no longer visionary, genius, but once upon a time right next to Nike's founder, he made organ matter at football and we were all like, why, why would that matter? Well,
Starting point is 00:27:53 Nike got into the college football business and they hired this guy, visionary. Hill monitor your sleep, he'll do all sorts of smoothie, nutrient testing. He's a, he's a savant. And then he goes to the Philadelphia Eagles, choose him up, spits him out the side of the business, but he's still that competitive guy. And he's still the guy that the business choose up, but he's super smart. And he cares deeply about competing.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And there he is just laying it naked bear. Yeah, just turn it into the giant football business. It's what it already is. Stop hiding from it. Just let's, let's play all each other. Let's all grab the TV money and let's all be greedy and I'll be Chip Kelly, revolutionary here, changing the business because I want to be ahead of the game. Like that guy's not going to get tired and just retire fat and lazy. He's losing right now, Stugatz. Like he's losing. He went, he was at the top of the sport, the top of the mountain,
Starting point is 00:28:48 and now he's sliding down the other end, and he's got to keep up in the money game. And what he's telling you is, let's just do this out in front of everybody. Let's just make it giant conference football minor leagues. XFL, USFL, will dominate forever. Just make me the CEO of this part of the business. Amazon and Adidas, what a great idea. I mean, first of all, Chip Kelly is a winner.
Starting point is 00:29:10 He won the LA Bowl this weekend, presented by Grunk against Boise State, Big win with their backup quarter back after their other, well, I guess they're all backups, right? Everyone's a backup. There's so many players in the portal. It's hard to keep track of with the bowl games. Anyways, I had Boise State. He brings up so many things in this like two-minute clip. First, he says that College Football News Commissioner, that's something that a lot of college football fans and media have been saying for a long time, especially during 2020, the COVID year, when every conference had their own plan for what to do. It was a absolute abject disaster and a humongous cluster.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I don't ever foresee a situation in which all the conferences agreed to elected commissioner and that person would be like the Roger Godel of College Whip-Hole and everyone would hate them. But it is kind of crazy that College Whip-Hole doesn't have an organizing body that monitors all the different conferences and has a sort of rules that all the conferences have to abide by. We saw this with Jim Harbon, his Big Ten punishment.
Starting point is 00:30:09 If he had done that in the SEC this season, they might have a completely different punishment for him because all the conferences operate somewhat independently. The other thing he mentions is paying a revenue share to players which I think a lot of people have been advocating for for a while. I don't think that that should be in lieu of NIL because I still think players should be able to earn money off of their name image and likeness if they're famous, why wouldn't you be? But then that you get into the problem of like if players are legal employees of the universities, which is something that's been going on in the courts for a while. And right now there's some momentum for the NLRB to make a decision on it but
Starting point is 00:30:47 there was a lawsuit earlier this year that kind of ended in a bit of a standstill on the cause that was in California. So that doesn't seem like anything that's going to happen like imminently. And then there's like the everyone should be, we should have like a mega conference thing and we should like do all the like, you know, two conferences, and we play against each other, and he kind of lost me with that. You see LA playing pit in West Virginia, I was like, where are we?
Starting point is 00:31:11 If you're on the West Coast, like the whole point should be like to keep things somewhat like, regionally standardized, because it's putting a lot of stress on budgets and on players and on traveling, and like that, I was like, okay, why don't we, I have an idea.
Starting point is 00:31:23 We have five power conferences based on geography and you play against the teams in your power conference so you don't have to fly from LA to Rutgers on a Saturday, but I don't know. He brought up a lot of really good points though and I think it's important that cultural cultures start to wait into these territories. The other thing is that there's now a lawsuit in Oregon over Title IX because there are female student athletes in Oregon that are claiming that they haven't been given the same NIO opportunities as their male counterparts. And now I think Title IX problems are gonna be forefront
Starting point is 00:31:56 in this discussion as well because College Football gets so much roster spots, so many resources. And we already know that a lot of schools, in fact most schools don't follow Title IX requirements, but it's, I'm interested to see what happens with this lawsuit because it's fairly obvious that college football is such a big business. The universities are making so much money off of their rights.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Like this is going to be a big problem down the road. And they're rewriting the rules as they go. And it's worth it. Like you do understand, Stu got's right. Whatever Jim Harball was doing, cheating or not cheating. Right. Worth it. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Totally worth it. Yes. They'll vacate a championship from them in five years and no one will care. But I'm saying, once you strip all the morality out of it. Jess, were you out of breath? Yeah, that was. I mean, I had like three espresso shots this morning.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Jessica, you have never held the ball that long. That's the longest you have ever held the ball. You are dribbling 100,000 miles an hour. With no one to bet. You are dribbling in circles and we're all looking at you. What happened? Is it the coffee? He brought up so many things I wanted to talk about everything.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I wanted to talk about the label presented by Gronk. Okay, but I mean, did you, at any point in there, become self-conscious saying, I am dribbling 100 miles an hour, and I've been talking for two straight minutes. The second deep breath. I'm more worried that coffee now makes me out of breath. That's not something that used to happen to me.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I thought it was a stamina thing, though. I thought it's because I thought what was happening there. You correct me if I'm wrong. I may have it wrong. I've never had this clear and angle at seeing you in the back row because it's usually hidden behind somebody. I believe what happened there is you could have done a full show on just what Chip Kelly said. And I will on Gens UF. coming to your screech Thursday. Well, this is, it's still got, I don't know what we're going to do about this because we've got two forms of journalism over here. What happened to foot girls? Well, what did happen to foot girls?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Mike Ryan is over here and I want to pin you down on this, Mike. Tell me the University of Miami, I was hoping they would get in the game for two of his brother. So the, tell me the University of Miami, I was hoping they would get in the game for Tuas' brother. So the University of Miami, I mean, they were in the game for Tuas' brother, Dan, but to answer your question, Tuas actively trying to find a year of eligibility that no one thinks is there, but he and his family feels pretty strongly,
Starting point is 00:34:20 they can find one. Tuas' brother, not Tuas. Yeah, Tuas' brother. Well, Tuas his family, certainly. I feel like Brock Purdy should come back. Like someone should have eligibility that's not making that much money in the NFL and come back and play, right?
Starting point is 00:34:33 Or use it as leverage. Yeah. Like, I'm gonna leave the NFL because NAL money is so much that I can make more money playing for college. And I'll go back to the NFL. Brock Purdy is starting at Boise next year. Okay, I can't wait for that day. Let's, Mike, please, because some of these quarterbacks are making more than Brock
Starting point is 00:34:50 Party. A lot. Like, I would say, in college football last year and somewhere between five and ten, starting college quarterbacks, we're making more than Brock. All right. So give me, please, a reported range because this is a news and information segment because Jessica's got a lot of information but you have to have better news than her.
Starting point is 00:35:11 If I pin you down on what's it going to cost roughly for the University of Miami to get in the quarterback game here with its best option. With its best option. Yeah, for me. Give me a wide range there. I was what that cost.
Starting point is 00:35:26 It was reported that cam ward was, this was put up by cam ward's reps and a lot of reputable sites ran with it that he was looking for something in the neighborhood of two to two and a half, which would have been outside of the risciata thing that ended up on the outline. It would have set the market, correct?
Starting point is 00:35:43 It would have established a new high when it came to that market. And I don't think the, I don't think that's exactly where the market's going to be for them. I think it'll fall in line between somewhere where if you paid for their last quarter back. And the number that he's asking for and I think that's where it'll settle. And that's just not based off of any first hand stuff, but just generally how these conversations and how the reporting has been done on cam ward, I think those schools are willing to do that.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Here's some news for you Dan. Noter Dame got a wide receiver from FIU. Pause up. Pause down. What happened, Billy? Billy, how have you felt about the last? I hate it. I hate the portal.
Starting point is 00:36:19 That's what you're asking me because my team loses all of their GD good players. I think it's a grand transfer though. So you are a minor league. He's good. He said this year the record for receiving yards in a season and the quarterback play wasn't the best. We need it so bad. Be excited.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Past T.Y. Hilton and some others. Yeah, on the on the FIU is the minor leagues for the big business of football. I don't like that. I dared. You're not getting any players coming to FI football. I don't like that. I dared. I dare you're not getting any players coming to FIU. I can't do that again. They're going elsewhere. Yeah. How did you just feel though about Jessica dribbling the
Starting point is 00:36:55 ball for two straight minutes a hundred miles an hour? That's fine with it. Didn't bother me. I learned from the best. I'm coming for your throne. I learn from the best. That's it, Ellie. Me? What? Oh, no. I don't know, Ellie.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'm coming for your throne.

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