The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: I'm Not Gonna Be Deposed

Episode Date: February 21, 2024

TODAY'S CAST: Dan, Amin, Chris, Jessica, Lucy, Tony, and Roy. We kick things off with a new Andrew Streeter song highlighting Stugotz's latest grift. Dan details Stu's attempt to get Michael Wilbon to write the foreword (forward?) of his "book." Then, Roy leads (ledes?) us through a conversation on the Florida Panthers, Incarnate Word (ward?) and Texas A&M Commerce (community college?) get into a fight, and JJ Redick and Austin Rivers get into it over Doc Rivers' accountability. Plus, David Samson is here to discuss Scott Boras clients failing to sign this offseason, Rob Manfred's legacy, and, somehow, Latrell Sprewell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. My book's unwritten, but still it's for sale, Cause I closed the deal. I am getting to it But so are my friends We all know how this ends Staring at the laptop before you Open up a browser window Let your fingers hunt and peck

For StuGott's book dot com Only 29 bucks for the hardback So close you can almost taste it Pre-sale for incomplete work Watch the money rollin' No one else is gonna profit Only I will break it in No one else, no one else could get away with this sh**

Click the link now to obtain it Best of luck is you're explaining to your friends Why you're purchasing. You're holding on the grip. Yes, it's my name on the cover. That means I get full credit. No one knows. No one knows. This thing even comes out. Click the link now to obtain it. Best of luck is you're explaining to your friends Why you're purchasing a book that's still unwritten Somebody writes in and it's more writing than Stugatz will do on that book The show promoting a book that might never see the light of day sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen lol

This is the greatest comedy bit ever written that Stugatz will not write and it is not a bit. He is running a scam this week on vacation and he's got all of us on deadline. He's on vacation. I have to have something done by Friday. Mina had to have it done during Super Bowl week. Greg Cody has to have it done on Friday. It doesn't have a back in my day because he has to do it by Friday. Andre Dawson has to have his in by Friday.

Stugaz is on vacation. Is there any sort of like punishment if you don't write it? Is he threatening you? Absolutely not. Like what if you just don't do it? I'm not like him and none of the people who he's asked to do this are like him, where we say we're gonna do something and then don't do it. He's chosen the people he could best take advantage of. He is a seasoned hunting grifter. A book that's still unwritten. That is pretty smart. He tried to sell one to Lucy at the Super Bowl.

Yeah, he like came up to me after we were at like Dominique Amina's podcast and was like, do you see the website? Are you gonna pre-order? No. A book that's so unwritten. I'm your friend. Just give it to me for free.

No. There's no such thing as gratis books. You gotta pay for those. They're free. If he writes one, I'll buy it. If he actually writes it. There's no such thing as authors who don't write. Don't waste your money, Lucy.

But he's got legitimate authors that he's not paying anything. And I have legitimate questions But he's got legitimate authors that he's not paying anything, and I have legitimate questions about whether he will write a single word himself. Because I've told you before, and I'm not making this up, when he told me to write the full word, he spelled it F-O-R-W-A-R-D. And? What an idiot.

See, Dan, what you don't get is that he's talking about moving forward and you're thinking about book terms forward, right? No, he's talking about moving forward. That's what you gotta get on. His vision of forward for the book. Are you guys offended on my behalf? Yes. Comedically, that he would request that I ask Mike Willbond, who will not speak to him, to write the forward,

and when Mike Willbond said no, he then asked me to write the forward. Are you not offended on my behalf? I don't know why he asked Willbond to do it in the first place, that's always your forward. Fame. Because they had beef or something? Fame, it's fame. It's a bigger name

No, of course he is Lucy concurred. Yeah, he's a bigger name than you but I like you I like you so much more Dan I don't know him though. So maybe that's but I think it's I think it's unquestionable He's had a daily television. How much is his company valued at? Okay, but that's not not much as ours by the way. That's not another question. It's not a measure of fame We weren't talking about a salaried worth I don't think we were talking about fame and he's on daily television with one of the most successful television programs of any Kind for 20 straight years in the middle of the worldwide leader. He's one of the few people that they're paying substantively over there as one of their high powered salaries. I don't think

there's any question that Mike will, and he's on all the NBA covers. That's a side gig. The PTI gig is the thing that he's less interested in. He's always taken more pride in being a part of the NBA coverage. Yeah, he's definitely more famous than you. Yeah, but net worth, that's all you baby fist me. Wow. But why, I mean, if we're purely going off fame,

like, Stu Gatz could have started a little higher up even than Mike Wilbott, no? Well, but I think he was going for the joke of this person hates me and I want him to write a forward that rips me even more than Dan would rip me and I don't think anybody's gonna rip him more than I'm gonna rip him. Okay, that's true. Is your first sentence gonna be like, I hate this person? I mean, I don't hate him.

Don't write it for him, Chris. I'm just trying to think of a funny first sentence. Well, but I, I, I'm not very creative. I don't, I don't hate him. What's your lead gonna be, L-E-A-D? Put it on the poll at LeBatard Show, Juju. Forward of a book, F-O-R-E, or forward of a book? Are there more than one leads?

Yes. L-E-D-E's getting confusing. You're the son of a journalist. I know, he doesn't know anything about journalism. But on this one, I'm guessing the audience Also put this on the poll juju at LeBatard show the lead of a story spell it like lead or the lead LEDE

Because I don't know two leads by the way. Yes, there are two leads. Thank you Roy Look at Roy joyous and and Roy I don't mean to temper your enthusiasm, but you are well I'm not the listeners are writing in a lot the Florida Panthers won last night against Ottawa in overtime They're winning every which way they now do are they the best team in the league by points now Did they pass Boston last night? They're not the best team by points that'll be Vancouver, but they should yeah They are number one in the Eastern Conference. Okay, so somebody writes in it's got to be so funny or it's gonna be so funny when the Panthers lose in the playoffs again. I cannot wait for the Panthers to flame out again. Are those Maple Leaf fans that are saying that? No, Bruins fans. Why would you root against this hockey team, which was the lovable underdog story that did what very few playoff teams have ever done. In fact, in the first round last year, did something that none of them have

ever done. And this year looked to be completely overwhelming better. They are, I would prefer that they would be playing like this at the end of the season. But the only reason they weren't playing like this at the beginning of the season is because they were still hurt from how long that playoff run was. Well, for the first time in my life, I can honestly say that this team is the villain. This, they, people hate this team now, which of course now, I'm believing,

just like Tom Hanks in A League of their Own, when Gina Davis came back to catch it, the final game, we're gonna win, we're gonna win. They're annoying. They're annoying. What an old reference. They're annoying. What is it, 1992? That's pretty old.

34 years old. Wait a second. I get the. They're annoying. 1992. That's pretty old. 34 years old. Wait a second. I get the reference. I get the reference. I'm just saying. I felt... A league of their own is older than Jessica, Tony, and Lucy.

Yes, by a decade. By a generation. We're gonna win. We're gonna win. The Panthers are annoying. Yes, they are. Yeah, absolutely annoying. The best part of last night was Brady Kachuk,

Matthew Kachuk's brother fighting Bobrovsky. Well, Bobrovsky. No, no, no, it was the other way around. Well, Bobrovsky going out of net, but I just always wonder, hockey is such a weird sport. Like after the game, is there any tension between Matthew Kachuk and Bobrovsky after he almost decapitates his brother?

No, absolutely not. Like I love it. It's a weird sport where like Kachuk's like, yeah, dude, get my brother. No, absolutely not like I love it. It's a weird sport. We're like a Chuck's like yeah, dude Get my brother no that that is the sport like they're probably gonna go out and get drinks after the game It's really gonna get drinks from his brother after the game. It's weird though. It is weird I really do think we should all sports. That's how we should handle beefs in all sports fighting Yeah, just let them go the refs stand until they go to the ground. It doesn't stop

All right That is where they changed all the rules in the NBA on fighting because it spilled into the stands and then next thing You know Steven Jackson was punching the custer if it stays on the court, of course, Dan I mean it's like it ridiculous You can't contain it to the court even in hockey you see them go over the plexiglass every once in a while or go over every once in a while over the bench area you see every once in a while you see you know once in a while. Over the bench area you see every once in a while you see, you know, wasn't there a, there's a famous fight where a fan ended up in the bench or penalty box area.

Yeah, it was Maple Leafs Flyers, it was in Philadelphia, Ty Domey was in the penalty box at Fanfilling. You knew that exact thing off the top here? No, it's legit famous. He was like, wasn't there this one time? And Roe was like, no, it was exactly this date this year. I didn't give a date though. Ty Domey ended up in the water bottle

and squirting him with water. And the guy went at them and fell right in. Amino Hasson will be here momentarily when he's done with oddball. But hockey is unlike anything else, anywhere in sports, where guys wouldn't speak for years in the other sports if they got into some of the fights they got into an hockey we didn't talk the other day about what happened this weekend in the Incarnate

Ward game and I'm surprised I'm talking about it it's only because the video is so flammable because I remember this video started with, I believe, one of the announcers saying, an incarnate ward, or just... It's just word. See what's wrong with this. This is how beefs are handled. Like a Catholic school. A Catholic school.

That I believe one of these teams, correct me if I'm wrong, Texas A&M Community College. No, no, Commerce. Thank you. I don't know these teams. Improved to three and 11 on the season. Community College. No, no, commerce. Thank you. I don't know these teams Improved to three and 11 on the season the thing that I know about these teams and it clearly their names are not among them The things I know about this teams are now just that this video exists I I love these type of videos because I love to find where I would be in these videos. You'd be number five

Yeah, I'm like I that's like guys guys, come on, we're doing here. Like, he didn't mean it. He didn't mean it. There were bloody faces involved in this fight. That's an interesting haircut by number nine. Can we go back to your pronunciation real quick? Yeah, what happened there, Dan? Of the team names?

Well, I couldn't, I'll tell you what happened there. In that I saw that incarnate word where my friend Ricky Williams a little weird worked at as a running backs coach I saw that they had lost the game and it began the video began with the announcer saying someone had improved to 3-11 And I got confused. I was reading the wrong side of the scoreboard and so yes So I said Texas A&M Community College when it's Texas A&M Commerce. Yeah, that's the name of the city. Yeah, commerce. And how do you say

Incarnate Word? I thought it was like Incarnate. Incarnate Word, yeah. You said Ward like Charlie Ward. Yes, that is true. But I get both parts of it wrong? Both parts did sound incorrect to me but I I may also be incorrect, Dan. Incarnate is not the way that that said incarnate. I've never pronounced the second syllable that way, but I don't, again, I don't know. I'm from the Midwest, so I probably say it wrong. All I know is that I've got great video of a fight that we're only talking about

because there's great video of a fight. And Chris Cody is advocating for more of that. One on one, I think like they do it in hockey until you go to the ground, if more people get involved, they break it up. But if it's like, I got beef with you, we just, we drop the gloves, we go and we can settle this. I do think in some sports, I mean,

we'd have to really think this out. I don't wanna just make a blanket rule in every sport. You already made it. I'm just, I'm going out there and then I'm walking it back. I'm really like, how can we actually do this here? I do think it would work in MMA. I'm a practical person. Actually, they love each other after the fights.

You got hugging and kissing and everybody's happy after the fight. Well, that's a respect thing where fellow fighters look at others who fight for a living, fight for their money. And there's a respect that once you're done with that, both of the fighters know better than anybody how scary and vulnerable all of that is

to be in there with just one other person and you're fighting over who wins, gets the money. Like that, it's so primal that you can't help at the end of the adrenaline of that to be relieved and be like, I'm glad all of this is over. I'm glad we're not doing any of this anymore Let me paint a picture for you Week 12

4pm games Rams vs Niners Middle of the third quarter Trent Williams Aaron Donald flip off their helmets Like alright they're going guys Like after a play like just something And it's just like I'm paying for that fight

Where are they gonna go afterwards? Is there a penalty box? No, they just get kicked off the field sit out sit out of play. Are you too old to remember the hysteria in the media? After the malice in the palace like I just didn't this is not going into the crowd This is one-on-one. It starts not going into the crowd. It begins not going into the crowd Are you not familiar with how rage work? You can't you can't turn that off on the film. I feel like, brrr had the time of my life but let me tell you I was moving I was grooving I did not have time to stop and get a water so I used

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Dan at liquidiv.com. Don Lebatard! All the cruise ships go out at like 5pm and like it's like a parade of cruise ships and they're all blowing the horn like brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Really good. I'm waving to you. I'm waving. Yes! This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugas. I did this on South Beach Sessions with Stephen Jackson and I urge you to check it out. It's got a lot of good information in it, but one of the things we did is broke down the video of he's following a mentally ill teammate who's doing what his therapist has suggested he do by laying on a scores

table and getting away from triggering situations and then a fan throws a beer from a distance and lands squarely on his face. And met a world peace flips out and Steven Jackson is so crazy loyal that he just follows him into the stands and the media. That, that story was fascinating for a number of different reasons. Chief among them to me is that immediately after the fight happened, all of the coverage I saw mostly on ESPN was pro player. You cannot throw a beer at a player and then the next day someone had made a call overnight

I'm assuming whoever was the president before John Skipper Mark Shapiro somebody else made a call overnight and then the coverage all changed the next day and then Steven Jackson incurred three3 million worth of penalties that he wants a refund on because he's pleading his case on South Beach Sessions in a way that was pretty convincing to me. I urge you to check it out if you want to be convinced on what can happen when these fights spill into the stands.

I know in the post game show after the game, John Saunders lost his mind. He was pissed at the fans and then flipped the switch the next day. If we're honest, Dan, it was a laser by the fan. Like, it's don't throw stuff, but what a BB by that guy. That was a dart. Like, right at it, like, what was he, like,

17 rows up, right in the face? If he had not been so accurate. Right, we don't have that. That fight never escalates. Ronner Test was trying to calm himself down with therapy-aided devices, tools he'd been given. That's the South Beach session I want to see. Wow.

Let's get that guy. I mean, I want to see yours too with Steven Jackson. I'm just saying, man. I think you can get that on. It is what it is. I think he's on with Cameron and Mace. The boys? Yeah, they're climbing.

Mace is now going back and forth with Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp is going back and forth with everybody. He is escalating his profile in a pretty substantive way while promising his sister he will not have any more public beef as comedians continue to make fun of. Beefs pay well. Beefs do pay well. One of the things that I wanted to ask you guys

as it related to... to beef and what's been happening here with jj reddick and uh... austin rivers and uh... jj reddick went after dock rivers now austin rivers and dock rivers have a strained relationship so i'm i'm listening to jj reddick and i hope he can bring this i don't know if he can. I don't know if there's the space for it, but he, he is a transcendent basketball

talker. JJ Redick has a way of getting on first take and his analysis and information are so thorough researched and prepared. And his knowledge of the game is so substantive that, um, he can wipe the floor with your points if you are not solid and speaking beyond cliches about your basketball analysis. Now he is joining Mike Breen and Doris Burke as part of their broadcast and you don't hear this very often.

This is JJ Redick going after Doc Rivers because Doc Rivers was making a whole bunch of excuses at the All-Star game. I've seen the trend for years. What's the trend? The trend is always making excuses. Get, Doc, we get it. Taking over a team in the middle of the season is hard. It's hard.

We get it. Just like getting traded in the middle of the season is hard for a player. We get it. But it's always an excuse. It's always throwing your team under the bus. They lose to Memphis. Oh, it's his players. Memphis was playing G-League guys and two-way guys.

Then you look at his quotes over the weekend. Now he wants to take credit for the James Harden trade to the Clippers working out. He wants credit for that. There's just no, there's never accountability with that guy. I mean, legitimately pissed and you heard the pen thrown. That was a spike. He was a Clipper while Doc was the coach there, right?

So maybe he got thrown under the bus by Doc when we were playing there, right? It does seem that it does feel personal. Like I think as we're about to hear from Austin Rivers, his best seasons were under Doc. Well, but hold on a second. So Patrick Beverly comes back at JJ Redick by saying, this is wrong to retire and then do this on air when he saved your career. And JJ Redick's response to save my career.

First he says, Pat, my guy. My guy. You have to throw that in there. You have to throw that in there. Pat, my guy, there's this, but that, so there's not menace, that's no. That's bringing him in close. Yeah, that's like, you're my guy here,

I wanna tell you something here. I got news for you. No one's listening, just me and you here. Okay, you say's, there's not menace. That's bringing him in close. Like, hey, I wanna, you're my guy here. I wanna tell you something here. I got news for you. No one's listening, just me and you here. Okay, you say Pat my guy is if it's not menacing. It couldn't be more condescending. I mean, cause he says, save my career, FOH. So it can't be Pat my guy, out of here. Oh, you know what it meant.

We were just back here to stand. I know what that means. It can't be, it cannot be FOH And and then JJ reddick says as well I had a four-year contract to be a starter with my option like he gave the contract details the same amount of money four-year Starter four-year contract. I was gonna be a starter and he's like Doc Rivers did not save my career But here again Austin Rivers who doesn't doesn't have a great relationship with his dad, is now coming after JJ Redick, too. First off, I don't feel responsible to take off for my dad. He's a grown man.

He could do his own thing. But in this regard, I just simply don't agree with it. For someone who's not accountable, he seems to always be held responsible, considering he's the guy that's always fired when things don't go right. He got fired in the bubble for a 3-1 lead versus the Denver Nuggets, which in half his team didn't want to be there. They had players saying that their mind wasn't there, he had guys leave, that happened. Then he gets fired for losing to a team that was favored over him, which was the Celtics last year. It seems like he's always responsible. It's just a strange coming from JJ. And I have some love

for JJ. You're my dukey, you know that, you're my bro, I love you. It's just coming from JJ. And I have some love for JJ. You're my dookie. You know that. You're my bro. I love you. It's just your best years were with the Clippers. I don't think he saved your career. I appreciate you, Pat. But I don't think it, I mean, this just seems a little bit weird. There are three and seven. Dames missed most of those games.

Milton's missed a lot of those games. They haven't even had their full team yet. We'll see what happens. The pressure is there. They do have to perform. But in terms of accountability, like what are we doing here? Your best years in the NBA

were when you played for him in the Clippers. Let's not forget that. I don't know if there's like frustration there or there's tension there between you. I know a lot of times we had to sit you towards the end of the game due to defensive reasons. But you had your best years as a starter there, especially our whole system was drafted around you

because you're a shooter. You're not a guy who could put the ball on the floor. You were a strictly shoot guy're a shooter. You're not a guy who could put the ball on the floor. You are a strictly shoot guy. You're not like Clay Thompson or Steph who could put the ball on the floor. You're a guy who could catch and shoot and you did it at a high level, hell of a career by the way, big fan. But your best years were under him. It's just very ironic and kind of weird that you have this energy towards him in terms of him never ever being accountable considering he's always been responsible. I mean, just textbook right there. I mean textbook in insulting him while complimenting him,

insulting him while saying, I'm not insulting you while insulting him. I feel like the fact that he didn't have to throw a pen also, like you have to give him. Now I've seen the back and forth since this and I truly don't know who's side to take. I'm waiting for a mean to tell me later on. But I think the fact that he delivered it without throwing the pen really is a notch in his column. You gotta look at where he did it, right? J.G. Redick was on first take.

You know you have to elevate for first take. You got Shannon on one side, you got Stephen A. on the other side. You gotta be that energy. I don't even know where Austin Rivers did this. Was it on like the NBA today? NBA today, it's a daily show. A bit of a more chill atmosphere

that he can kind of have more room to roam. But, Stephen A, Shanna, you gotta bring the energy. But there was great shade in there. Didn't play at the end of games. We had to sit ya. Couldn't handle the ball, that's right. We, me and my father, me and my father had to sit you during games

when you couldn't be trusted to protect a three-one-week. Love you though, you're a good guy. Love you, but it doesn't sound like it, you couldn't dribble. It is tremendous, I side with JJ Reddick, and I do understand the point that Austin Rivers is making when he says, what do you mean accountable? He keeps getting fired, like it's the maximum. We do blame him for that.

But yes, but he is so good at charming his way through the excuses on why it's not his fault. Especially this last week or so, he's been cranking out the excuse for shooting. Oh, but he goes to the All-Star game and he's like, oh, I started three and six. And what does he mean? He's like, I told him to start me after the All-Star game.

It's a tough road trip. It's like, what are you doing? Has he by chance ever sold a book that he hasn't written yet? A book that's still unwritten. Seems like we're making some comparisons here that are bringing me back to that first conversation we had. Austin Rivers works hard. In no way was his career saved by Doc Rivers.

Stugat, I'm told, Chris, where are we on this? Tyler, Taylor. That was a crazy thing, Taylor. Taylor just told me he wants to do weekend observations from Colorado What and I haven't spoken to him all week like I don't know Don lebatard I read his lips and it sounded like he was saying what you want to fight me now But but I'm telling you if you look we can play a game right now The lips look the same on fight you and failure.

Watch my lips. I'm gonna turn off my mic. No, I just. I like this game. I like this game. I like this game. I'm gonna say one of these two. And I want you guys to tell me if I'm saying fight you.

Yeah, yeah. Or failure, okay? Yeah, yeah. Stugats. Why are your ideas always so bad for the podcast? This is a terrible video. Big swings, guys. Why is this a karaoke map now? Why are you the mind, guys? Just a carrot jelly, man.

Just not for the audio. Here we go, do it again. Fight you. That was fight. Maybe you can't tell. Oh my god! We got to the bottom of it! This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats. Every day, very early in the morning, 8 a.m. Eastern, David Sampson, who has not slept, covers more terrain on nothing personal in 50 minutes than I believe any individual host doing sports radio or podcast at the moment by themselves.

More ground is covered by one person than anywhere I have heard in sports and a lot of stuff off the beaten path so I urge you to listen to nothing personal. It is award-winning for a reason. David Sampson has been very public and loud about his hate for Scott Boris, the super agent, because of how fraudulent he was after the death of Jose Fernandez, milking the pieces of it that he can use for his own gain to look good and then abandoning the family thereafter. Scott Borus has made himself very wealthy, changing the entire finances of baseball in

a way that enrages David Sampson. Now this year, I don't know what's happening with the free agents. There are four Borus free agents who are unsigned. Can you explain to me what's happening, David, and welcome with Baseball's free agency? Well, I can explain what I hope is happening, which is finally, after all these years, Boris and his clients are about to get royally screwed. That is the hope. That is what we hope every year until one owner breaks rank. And I'm not talking collusion.

I'm just saying one owner ends up being the one who bells out Boris. But now I think this could be the year that he's gone too far. We're here on February 21st. He's got Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery, Matt Chapman, and the fourth player, whose name is escaping me right now. That's all right, that's allowed.

Oh my God. It's okay, that's all right. No sleep. I was gonna text you this morning at 1.30 when I was watching the finals. Snell was great, but you'd be really offended if he got one of those 250. He was great last year. I can't believe that San Diego wasted that season from Snell well he did win the

Cy Young that is true but he's a five and dive guy he's not someone you give 200 million to Bellinger is the fourth and the way Boris works is he promises his players an amount of money and then if it doesn't come he says don't worry it will and it happened with Juan Soto. The Nationals offered him $440 million. He said, no, thanks. I'm going to wait and see. Now Won Soto will not get $440 million from anybody. He's now on the Yankees after a failed time with the Padres.

And so what we're watching for now as the regular season starts a month from yesterday, am I going to South Korea as part of Metal Arc in March? First I'm hearing of this. This is the first request. I don't think we're sending you to South Korea. No. So no, you are not. The Dodgers open the season against the Padres. It's Ohtani in theory ready to be the DH at for $700 million over 20 years. That's quite an expensive DH. And so the season starts in a month and these players don't have a place to play.

What Boris is doing to try to keep this scheme going is he actually has a spring training facility where his players do spring training, those who are unsigned. So Jordan Montgomery and Blake Snell will throw bullpens and get their arms stretched out and Bellinger and Chapman will get at bats. And the hope is that some team will come forward

and give the long-term deal. My hope is that all four of them get the Carlos Correa Boris pillow deal of a one plus one where you get one guaranteed year and then an opt out and a team option for a second year. Then Boris will take the podium and he will say, this is exactly what we wanted. We wanted Blake Snell to make 40 million a year

for two years and he's totally lying because of course that's not what Snell wants. He wanted the 200 million. So the question you're asking is great. Is this finally the year where no one bails out Boris? That's not what Snell wants. He wanted the 200 million. So the question you're asking is great. Is this finally the year where no one bails out Boris? And that is certainly the hope in the industry. Explain what you're doing there

when you say an owner breaks ranks, but it's not collusion, because an owner breaking ranks would be only breaking ranks if there is collusion. So what you need for collusion is an actual act. You need there to be a meeting or some sort of communication. Do not sign Scott Borus clients. And if you do, you will get in trouble.

That is not what actually happens. And we can go back to when collusion did happen in Major League Baseball where there were, there was a settlement, there wasn't necessarily an admission and that was before my time. The way, the meaning of breaking rank is that all of the side sort of talks that happen from ownership down to president, down to GMs, down to people in scouting and player development,

where you talk about the value of players and you say, hey, are you looking for a Bellinger type player? Because we've got someone, do you want to talk about a trade or are you going to look to sign other types of players? But there's nothing officially that comes down from the mountain. So there is no collusion. What breaking ranks means is that all the owners

are very aware that Boris has four clients out there and they are individually deciding not to be the one to sign him. It happened with Barry Bonds. Everyone decided they were not going to have him in sight in an organization until Jeffrey Lauria broke ranks and made him the hitting coach of the Marlins. It wasn't that we were told by Bud Selig, you may not hire Barry Bonds. We don't want him in the sport. It was just one of those things that was understood. Dave, when you're talking about those caliber of players and obviously we're getting close

to the season starting and they go unsigned, like what happens? Do they just be like, they're free agents and nobody signs them and they're excellent players just sitting on the bench? They're free agents. They can come on the show. They're not busy at 7.05 every night. It's not going to happen. Those four players will find a home. The class of players that are really struggling right now are the middle class, which has been squozen in a way that reflects society,

where they're not finding the deals. And so players like Alucas Geolito found a middle class dealer, Lance Lynn, but many of the players you just stopped talking about They'd sort of disappear from the league one of the things that we used to do with the Marlins is we keep a list of all the players who Disappeared and we would say hey do we want that guy because we could probably get them close to the minimum And then you've got some of them who say they would do a spree well.

I wish Amin were there because when I say that, that totally falls flat, doesn't it? Amin will be here in 25 minutes. Okay, so there was a player in the NBA who said, I don't get off my couch for blank money. It was a player named Luttrell Sprewell, and it was an absurd amount of money. And then he followed it up by saying,

I've got to feed my family, you know? And it didn't land exactly well. And this was post-P.J. Carlusimo, another reference that probably is not landing right now. He choked his coach. He actually choked his coach. Why? That doesn't get more attention is beyond me. It got plenty of it, David.

It got but it's forgotten about David. The whole room doesn't know about it. David, we all knew about it. David, you know, but if I'm doing word association with the audience and I say LaTrel Spree, well, multi-time all star or choked his coach, everyone is saying choked his coach. I think spinning wheels. That's a great poll question, except it's leading.

If you just did word association, Latrel Sprewell blank, what would win the poll for filling in the blank? Choked his coach. No, I don't think that wins. David, are you crazy? David, are you, David, you can't be this forgetful. An NBA-

I don't know about younger people, I don't forget. An NBA player choked his coach and I think that's what the name Latrel Sprewell is associated with even though he was a very good basketball player. So I believe it would be not above 50% of respondents would come up with that on their own. If you presented it as an option, I think more than 50 would choose it, but if you left it Blake, I'm not sure they actually do you put it on the pole Please letrell spree well and just put either all the multi-time all-star or choked his coach You know, you can't do it that way what rims in there too. How do you and rims also put in rims as well?

What what do you want? How do you want to do it? It's just word association when I say letrell spree? Well, you say blank. All right. That's different. Comment below. All right. So fill in the blank. OK.

Good engagement. Yes. It's fine. Lots of replies. He's changing the way that we do this. Can you, I've got a number of different questions. So we'll bring you back for another segment. But tell me if I have the legacy of Rob Manfred

correct, because it's a bit convoluted for me. And this is how I would describe Rob Manfred's legacy. Was bad for baseball, but made baseball a lot of money and therefore is good for baseball and then fixed baseball. Well, you just dropped an and fixed baseball as though that's a small thing. The rule changes from last year are likely going to be his greatest legacy. Well, you just dropped an and fixed baseball as though that's a small thing. The rule changes from last year are likely going to be his greatest legacy, though he has five years left and I've got a little nugget for you all today. That announcement that he was retiring in 2029, that's five years from now.

There can be a lot that can happen in the next five years where he doesn't leave after five years. The owners may ask him to stay for longer. He may want to stay for shorter. That was just sort of a strange thing. Normally you don't announce, hey, I'm gone in five years. So I would say that it's not time to write his legacy yet, but I know that you've got a thing with Rob because of Miami and I get that.

And from an ownership standpoint, that he's done a lot right for them, though the Orioles sale is not among them. But the most important thing that he has to deal with is the upcoming uniform issue. Who? No, it's not. The most important thing is collective bargaining.

Owners don't care about the uniforms. They don't care about Boris. They just care about collective bargaining. I'm not gonna be deposed. He was so pissed. Did people know about that interview in your room? I don't know how many of them know that me and Rob Manfred got into it. Tony, Lucy, Jessica.

I love that Bimble's calling me right now. I love it, Dan. What'd you say, Dave? What'd you do? Did you do something wrong? COO's coming after you? I'm live on Dan's show, so I'm not going to take your call right now, Bimble. love it, Dan. What'd you say, Dave? What'd you do? Did you do something wrong? COO's coming after you? I'm live on Dan's show, so I'm not going to take your call right now, Bimal.

Is that okay? Uh, that sounds like it. He said that's fine. Okay. I see you heard about South Korea is what happened, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's actually not true. Dan, that was the most hated...

You became persona non grata in baseball after that interview. People colluded to make sure that you would not get guests. First the Hall of Fame stuff and now Man for doing that to him. I'm not gonna be deposed. That's the way he says deposed. Like how pissed? Pissed. That's as pissed as you've ever heard a commissioner.

Deposed. Silver wanted to do some of that Sunday and muzzled himself. Deposed. He approached me after that interview, Dan, because he knows that I had been appeared on your show so many times. They're saying he was not true. He had a very simple question, which is, why do you talk to that MF'er? Wow.

I'm not going to be deposed. What did you say? I said because it's great content and I love it and him. Deposed. Do you understand how hard it is with a single word to show how condescending and arrogant you are about not wanting to be questioned? Deposed. And I try a lot.

It's so good. I'm not gonna be deposed. Do you realize it's just Greg Cody and a lawyer saying, I'm not gonna take a quiz. I'm not gonna be deposed. That's so true. I'm not gonna be deposed.