The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: It's Over, Stover

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

"We're not covering Denny Hamlin correctly." The Giannis Antetokounmpo trade discussions with the Miami Heat and Golden State Warriors are gaining steam, so naturally, this LOCAL HOUR is nearly entirely a Novak Djokovic vs. Jannik Sinner watch-along. What a Djok. Today's cast: Dan, Zaslow, Chris, Dan's Inner Monologue, Jeremy, Mike, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Who is? Jeremy. He's doing it again. It won't stop. Oh, my God. You're talking about how he won't shut up about how the Yanist stuff is all bigger than the Super Bowl?

Yes. Yes. Yes. It's just like three days in a row now, and I get it. Like the Super Bowl, okay, it's over a week away. I understand.

And for that matter, the NBA trade deadline's, you know, a little less than a week away. But he's doing it again. He's trying to convince everybody. He literally just said, talking about Janus, this is the biggest story in sports. And then he adds the caveat.

You know, it's Super Bowl too. Like he's doing it again. In his defense, though, obviously the Super Bowl is still a week away. We've got next week to really gear up and get ready and get real excited about the Super Bowl. But right now, stands to reason. Yonis is the biggest story in sports on today's Friday day. Very obviously the biggest story in sports today. Today.

I'm just happy everybody showed up for work. I was going to be here no matter what. The trade deadline, though, is, as Zaz just mentioned, it's also a week away. Six days away. And, you know, there are a number of big stories in sports. We're not covering Denny Hamlin correctly. And also, Jokovic right now is brawling with sinner. Like, this is, this, if you like tennis right now, it's rare for sporting events to be happening while we're on the show.

but Jokovic as an athlete has more titles, more majors than anybody. And when I say that, that's a staggering thing to say, given that he played against two other Jokovic's during his time. Like Serena doesn't have as many majors as Jokovic, and Serena was not playing against two other serena's at the same time. What Jokovic is doing right now, do you think, Mike, do you think, as we watch this, the fifth set of Joachovich and sinner.

Do you think that Djokovic knows, like we know right now, that sinners better than him? The job on the name. Almost stumbled, but you got through. I don't think that's good for my inner monologue. You've got to understand the voice. You got to understand it. I didn't understand what you were saying.

We'll work on it. Workshopping sounds. So just so I can get this right, we're deciding yesterday that 20 minutes of High Lucas talk is more interesting than Yonan. and that today old Novak Djokovic and quote, we're not covering Denny Hamlin correctly is more interesting than the Yonest stuff. That's our barometer here.

Jokovic has done a lot more winning than Yannis. But fair enough, fair point by you. Look at Jokovic right there. Look at that shot. Do you think that Jokovic knows Sinner is better than him? I think so. You think so? Yeah.

So then why wouldn't he think he's going to lose here? How's this? one. Well, I didn't hear what you said. It's got to be different, man. That's more men. Like, what do you want for me? But I did not understand my inner monologue.

Everyone else did. It's got to sound different. It's confusing if it's my normal voice. Right, but I still don't know what you said as my inner monologue, and it's going to be hard to do the show if I don't understand my own inner monologue. How's this one? I understand that you want to make it weak. You want to, but you made it sound like...

I think weak is the way to go. I, I, that's... All right, so I don't whisper. You guys, I got enough voices in my head. This one's tough. This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stucats podcast. By the way, I'm not a big hockey guy, obviously. I just found out that the mammoths were a team.

It's just mammoth. Okay, so the mammoth are a team. Hockey is backjack is a banger. That one's better than all the other backjack. as we have, and it's great. I agree. Is hockey back, Jack, or is the season over, Stover?

Like, is it back? I was, I was really... It's over over. We move on. I was really upset last night, Dan. For the first time this season, Mike, you could say what I put in the hockey chat last night. Like, I think I wrote,

Panthers are effing terrible. And I don't ever speak like that. I was really... Thank you for allowing us to share that. I was really, yeah. Well, you know... This one kind of... feels like it's being undone.

It feels like we're getting close to the point where it's just too much to overcome and it's going to be a loss season. The teams ahead of them are not losing. It's really hard to make the playoffs in that sport. Again, this sport could totally do with more teams because everyone's good. Like half the league makes the playoffs. So it's like, oh, it's very easy. No, it's really hard to make the playoffs in that league.

Dan, the panders are eight points back of a playoff spot. So when you say really hard, this brings me to another subject, and I'll tie Janice in, even though I'm watching Djokovic and Sinner right now, and we rarely have this kind of sporting event going on during the show. So please keep me updated on this, because I'm actually interested, fading champions, dying champions, watching them fight desperately is always interesting to me. And I was just asking during the Shadow Show, do you think that Djokovic knows that Sinner is better than him? And I don't think that's a concession that Jokovic would make while still playing tennis. I don't think that you can win if you lack confidence that way.

You almost always have to think you're able to win. But when it comes to the playoffs, making the playoffs being hard, I loved part of the conversation that we were having yesterday, and I don't remember even the specifics of what it's about, but the idea of when critiquing sports or franchises or anything, the acknowledgement somewhere in there that a certain thing is really hard to do offers some nuance that might balance perspective on things. And I bring it up as it relates to the heat.

Mike Ryan has checked out on the Miami Heat largely over the last few years of frustration because his standard is what the Miami Hurricanes did this year, what the Panthers have done the last couple of years, the things that are incredibly hard to do. And so not unlike you saying the Panthers bleeping or terrible, Mike Ryan has been wandering around for several years now saying the heat stink. But they don't actually stink. They won against Chicago yesterday. They've got three straight games against Chicago.

But the perspective I wanted to add to this. Get excited for that. Well, here's the thing, right? Where they've set the standard is interesting on where things are hard, Zaslo, because no one here is going to get excited about that because of where they've set the standard. But when we talk about things being hard, the model franchise in this market, even with two-time champion Panthers now no longer possibly being in the playoffs, for 30 years, 30 has been the Miami Heat.

I understand why you're frustrated with that. You want to take a guess when I talk about hard, how things are hard. You want to take a guess how many franchises in the last 30 years in basketball have done more winning than the Miami Heat? The last 30 years straight. Go ahead and take a guess how many of them have. have done better than the heat. Spurs, Warriors, Lakers?

Spurs and Lakers are it, and it's Lakers barely. It ain't Michael Jordan's Bulls. It ain't the Warriors. The shirt hell isn't the Knicks. It's not the Celtics. The Miami Heat for three straight decades. Three straight. They never do what Sacramento does for a season

or Atlanta's done for all of those 30 seasons. Never. They're always in it, and now we're talking Janus. These things are hard. It's really hard to want. win like that when everyone else is trying to prevent you from winning like that. Everyone else cares the same way you do about making sure you don't win like that. So the Knicks would kill to have Jimmy Butler against the Nuggets in the finals, but they don't get it for 30 years.

And so the perspective on what's great never gets to be as great if second place is always a loser. And if third place on 30 years of winning in the league is the Miami Heat Stee. when they don't stink this year. They clearly don't stink. No, they're ordinary, but I think that this is the longest run under Pat Riley that the Miami Heat haven't had a chance. No. No, I think they were bad the year that they got Beasley. 15 to 19, they were kind of a nothing. Yeah. 15 to 19? Yeah. Yeah. Morning, morning getting sick affected a lot of different things. Well, Bosch getting sick because I remember dancing with an inflatable horse celebrating Goran Dragich, and they were a game away from making it to the Eastern Conference finals

and matching up with the Cleveland Cavaliers. So I think this is the most prolonged stretch on Pat Riley's watch that they've just been ordinary without a real shot at winning the title. And there have been some lean years. There have been number two overall pick years. There was that time where they were like the five seed in a bad east, and we were all wondering if we're wasting Dwayne Wade's prime, but you knew that you had that piece.

Who's the guy that you build around right now? We've been talking ourselves into BAM. I think we've maxed out that ceiling. So I think the issue here is I understand that they're not a bad team. But in that sport, they're arguably the worst thing that you can be. Mediocre for an extended period of time. You're saying mediocre for an extended period of time. And I would say that's been the magic for 30 years and they had shack.

Well, the magic have a different standard. I'm telling you this is the worst run of Pat Riley. I understand that it's a. different standard, but what I'm telling you about these things are hard, okay, is that everyone wants what the heat have had for the last 30 years, which is you almost always matter. Like the Timberwolves matter now. They haven't mattered for 30 years, and they haven't played. You said they haven't played in the finals in a long time.

They were there three years ago. The Timberwolves have never been there. Like they played, they had Kevin Garnett. They've never been there in third. Like these things are really hard. I understand. But I don't feel like we do understand when we talk about it because you say, well, it's a different standard. Well, everyone's got the standard of they want to win the championship.

And one franchise is clearly better than the heat over the last 30 years. It's the Spurs and no one else is clearly better. That's a little dab of a paper towel on the forehead. See, I didn't understand what my head. manner monologue was there. I didn't understand. Yeah, but you're next to him and you hear the way he's saying it without the voice. Like, Chris, do you not understand that you're, you're hearing the way that he's saying that behind you. I don't want to get bogged down. I have headphones on, but. I think part of the issue or a major part of the issue over these last several years, the heat fans sees all of these

other teams that are out there making the moves. They're trying to take swings. And the heat have never been committed to doing that these last years because they're waiting and they're waiting and they're waiting for the right moment, the exact right moment to actually pounce. And that's why they've been a, you know, above average team, barely above average team. But now, like this, this right here, the heat by my count have only gone all in one time in the history of the franchise in a trade. That's when you push all the chips to the center of the table and you say take whatever you want. And now is with Shaq, all right? It's the only time they've ever done that. That's not true. They didn't, they didn't add

Wade in that. It wasn't, yes, correct. It was well, but it was all the chips except for Dwayne Wade. And here's everything else, but we're keeping this one piece. Tell us what you want. Yes. But that that's going all in, all right? In this instance as well, they are going to keep all in for Janus. They're going to

keep bam right over here. Here's everything else. Tell us what you want. And like, if this is what they've been selling us with their flexibility and their maneuverability for the last few years, this is it man like make it happen now

to that point I think heat fans have been frustrated when big names have come in the market and everybody from you know across the street has been like no hold hold we're not doing it yet we're not doing it yet but then when the heat fan sees the trade for Terry Rozier where a first round pick gets over there and then he gets indicted for gambling and then all of a sudden that happens you're like wait a second

the one time we try and make a move that something weird happens now we don't have the asset we need to maybe go make this massive asset happen like exchange like Can I add that whichever way you want to look at it, that the heat obviously should not have done the Terry Rozier trade. They should have been told at least. Or Adam Silver should do the right thing and require the heat to get their 27 first round pickback. If the heat, if that trade either never happened or Adam Silver did the right thing, the heat would be a lock to get Janus.

All right. They would be a lock. Let's talk about this for a second because it's interesting. A lot of parts of this are interesting. the best options that Janice would have and the Bucks would have, it would appear, are the Warriors and the Heat, and the Warriors is a better option. That's interesting for a number of reasons, including that the Warriors have so much flexibility as a well-run organization that has not won as much as the Heat the last 30 years, that they just traded for the Heat's best player and still have the assets available to have a better offer. Well, if I can have, why do you say that about the Warriors? they've won four titles during that span.

Oh, but over the last 30 years, okay, fine. We can say that, but by winning percentage... Oh, just like going back to 94, they were shitty for like 15 years. Over the last 30 years, the better winning... Over the last 30 years, the Warriors are under 500. Okay, yeah, you're right, you're right. Give him a hard look. Make sure he never corrects you on the air again.

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They're not going to make it, you know, even if they win in, if they lose it in Miami. I need to calm you down. That's right. They lose in Miami. They don't got a chance in Boston. Oh, they are going to have their ass, you know what, in Boston, you know. Stugats. They were wrong.

Are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get a cutting pay? No. What are they going to do? keep predicting what is the obvious. They're going to say, oh, the nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude.

And you know what? The Heat are going to win at all. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. The Warriors traded for the Miami Heat's best player and still have more flexibility and assets because their offer can be better. And I believe that the only way that Janus ends up in Miami, given that the Warriors are playing for the win.

of Steph's got a win right now while the heat are playing for Riley's got a win before it's all over. The best chance that he'd have is that Janus doesn't want to do the Durant thing of I'm going to go be coattails. I'm going to go be the number two. And I don't like what's going to happen to the Warriors after Steph retires where I'm going to end up being Milwaukee again. That's the best chance I think that he'd have. Janus wanting to be here because it gets to be his. Why does Milwaukee care about that? because Janus is going to tell them where it is that he wants to go

and they may or may not want to please Janus here as part of the transaction if they can get something close to what it is that the Warriors would be offering, which they can. They can get something close, but the Warriors offer is better. I think there's an issue too with a bit of subtraction by addition, right? Where you have Janus, you get him there, but it took so much. It took such a heaven and earth move to get all of your roster gutted, to get all your picks out of the way.

Now you're looking around at the locker room, and it's Steph, and it's Yonis, and it's like, maybe Draymond's there, maybe he's not. And then all of a sudden, in a year two, Steph's 37, he's turning 38 in March. We got two years left to Steph, three years maybe. And at that point, Janice is looking around being like, this is Milwaukee West. I'm back in hell. And there's nothing I can do about it because there's no picks. There's no assets whatsoever.

Like, that to me seems like a very tough place to be when you can go somewhere in the East and make the NBA finals every single season. There's a combination of things here. I found it really interesting both that aspect of it because there's been no indication thus far that the Warriors are a preferred destination of Janus. There's been reporting that the heat are. There's been reporting that he has interest in playing with Anthony Edwards in Minnesota. The Knicks.

We know about the Knicks. The Warriors have been a piece of this without any guarantee that Janus would extend. So their mammoth offer, which. which would include Pajemski and Moses Moody and Jonathan Cominga and Jimmy Butler, and then four picks and three pick swaps. Maybe that's not something that the Warriors are fully willing to put out there even with that Steph window. Maybe they see a hybrid version where, hey, they come get Andrew Wiggins or Anthony Davis. But even beyond that, I don't know that that offered that the Warriors are putting out there for the Bucks is the best thing for the Bucks either,

where you say, oh, but they can acquire four first-round picks in three swaps. Well, if all of a sudden it's Janus and Steph, and they're going to be maybe the best team in the NBA competing for championships the next few years, that pick swap means nothing. Two of those first-round picks are at the end of the first round. And you're looking at the heat picks being in the future and delivering you a good young core right now. You get where and other supplementary pieces who were under 25 years old. probably an all-star level guard in Tyler Hero who's only 25. You don't need...

He's talking too much. You don't need to keep winning. Get back to Denny Hamlin. All right. Denny Hamlin talk. Let's go. Was that Mike? Because that's what was going on in my head. Or was that Mike? Did that come out on air? I thought that that... Did you say that? Or was that just...

Can Jeremy hear me? Jeremy, will you cry if we don't get you honest? Only if Terry Rozier isn't allowed to be moved. and that's the thing. I already put this out there. Can you imagine Zaz? Can you imagine that? I already laid it down.

I already laid down the gauntlet. Adam Silver, if the heat make a trade for Janus, in theory they have a trade, and it involves Terry Rozier's contract, and then you come out and say that you're not allowed to trade Terry Rozier's contract, I already dared him. You did.

You double-dog dared him at the end. I double dare. I double dare you, Adam Silver, to cancel a trade. trade for Janice that involves Terosier. I double dare you. Dan, that would be the most unprecedented thing ever, right? In sports where he...

Him going against my double dare? That and a gambling scandal where the team was not let under the... They didn't know what was going on, okay? Spit it out, Tone. Look out, look how... Didn't even need me there. Look at him. He lost all confidence. Yeah, that was unfortunate.

It's okay, but I think part of the Terry Rozier thing that, we need to consider is minor penalty, two minutes, four leaking condos. You know what, it's fair. I'll take that one. It is. I was looking at Zazzy. He was looking at me and then I was looking at Dan and I heard the inner monologue and I was like, oh God. The intermodelog's tricky. Okay, I understand. Look, it's a whole new world out there. It's a new toy. I get it. I did a little dance here. I worry

about the Terry Rozier thing because Adam Silver hasn't really given us much on the record about hypotheticals. So this thing's going to need to play out a little bit. Why would the commissioner, you know, make sure everybody's all on the same page? Yeah. I understand the heat perspective on this. As someone that thinks it's wholly unfair, I share your frustration. But Adam Silver's got a hedge against there are going to be more Terry Roseers. And what I do right now is going to serve as precedent. And it's a lot trickier than it appears just from the heat perspective. Because you never know how this can be manipulated by other teams in the future. Wouldn't the precedent be, let's make sure teams that know they have a player

being investigated by the FBI discloses that information? Wouldn't that be the president? Zaslo, you're emotional about this and I understand. Also, I need to tell everybody that the Zaslo double-dared, double-dared, baroubi the other day. Like this double-dared, triple dare, it doesn't mean anything. You're talking tough and it's just empty. But getting back to reading tea leaves and whatever it is that you love about the transaction, if the heat are going to get back in this game. Why is Yombe? Jonas' mom posting on social media photos of Janice at the Miami Heat's arena. What is happening there on the T-Leave front?

I understand the point that Tony was trying to make before he started leaking confidence. I don't know if you guys saw the Philadelphia game yesterday against Sacramento, and Bede is going for 40 or Maxi is going for 37 or the reverse of that, and they're winning by two against Sacramento because Paul George is, fumes of himself and Edgecombe isn't the same thing he was at the beginning of the season. And all of a sudden, it takes what's left of Embed and all of Maxi to win the, to beat the Kings by two because this shit's hard. Like it's hard to beat all these teams and build a complete team.

However, the Miami Heat have in their history, I'm going to say that given the condition the Shaq was in with the heat, even though they won a championship with him, have had only two players as good as Janus. And whether he's hurt and whether you think he's old, that is a player that you have to get because the ones that you have are not good enough. And by your own standard, the highest of standards, Pat Riley, it's winning or misery. By your own standard, this team is playing for championships. And we know that this one's not good enough as is. They're going to play the Chicago's and the Atlanta's and the Orlando's. And that's where they're going to be.

And that isn't good enough. Janice alters that. It's a player you have to have, even if you think he's injured, even if you think he's old. It's the kind of player you have to have because the heat have only had two like that ever. And one of them is objecting on television, okay, to Rudy Gobert wandering around saying still again and again if in 2013, if my team had gotten to the finals, we would have beaten the Miami Heat, and Dwayne Wade still not having it 12 years later. So Rudy is one of my teammates now, and I cannot come here and I bring him a gift. Oh, what we got?

I was sure that I brought Rudy a gift at the same time. Since we're talking about championships, as we celebrate championships, Rudy was very famous to say that they could have beaten us in 2013 to win that championship. This is the championship ring from 2013. I just want Rudy to get a chance to touch it. You know what? Feel it experience it? I appreciate that.

Yeah, I appreciate that. Know what? Yeah. No, why we didn't win? Uh-huh. They ain't had that jacket in my size, so, you know, I just, uh, just leave it at that. You can't have everything. See, this was 06, that was 13.

We was doing this. He was still in diapers. Uh-huh. Oh, was it? I mean, pretty much. Oh, it wasn't? In the NBA terms, you were still in diapers, homeboy when we was winning to have a shit.

You know you're bothered when you're Rudy gay and you just kind of go there, like, no, I didn't. Like, live TV. Like, that's not true, what you're saying? Shit. Gobert. Hopefully no one noticed. Was that Mike who did that or was that my actual inner monologue? I'm getting confused by this character of Mike's inner monologue because I did. As soon as I saw Rudy Gay pop up, I was just asking myself, did I say Gobert?

I think I said, Gobert. I know this is a whole new world, new bit. We're feeling it out. Stop reacting. Just let it sit. All right? Well, is that my inner monologue or is that now you? I'm confused. I can't get through to you if I'm existing in your head already. So hear me out. Just let the voice do its thing.

Right? It's supposed to speak for you. And if you speak after, it loses all its steam. How does the voice feel about me continuing on about these packages because I've spoken to people around the bucks? Don't talk to the voice. The voice only exists for the listener. It speaks to their thoughts.

thoughts. Okay, now I understand. If you react to the boys, yeah, let out all this speak. Thank you, voice. Jeremy, go outside to the whiteboard and do all of your Kevin Spacey in seven writing in journals. No, I know you're not going to like the Kevin Spacey. Just get out of air. Can we get smaller writing, though?

It's too big. In his defense, I could have pulled a different name. It, not if I'm talking about somebody writing. Charlie Day would have worked. Stop reacting to the voice. Stop reacting. You want to hear Tony messing up? No, no, come on.

Let's make fun of Jeremy. That and a gambling, a gambling scandal where the team was not let under the, under the, they didn't know what was going on, okay? Spin it out, Tone. You sound so stupid. Oh, please. What I was trying to say was that they put the gambling scandal under the rug. I got stuck with under the rug there.

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Now he's just Just playing Nickelback in the locker room And Stugats They'll play D And show threes As they chase the nets For the six seed

These five words in his head Scream are we winning games yet This is the Dan Levitar show With the Stugats The Yannis thing Is going to consume The next few days It's so annoying, right?

I don't think it's annoying because it represents hope. It represents the Miami Heat trying to place the standard where it's been. The Miami Heat will have the pieces needed to acquire Janus after the season. It is not during the season. They will be able to put together a better offer than the Warriors when they have more picks after the season. It is being said that the Bucks want picks. They don't want the Heat's young players.

The Heat have a cupboard of young players that are more desirable than the Warriors. years covered of young players, but if you want picks, you want picks. And now it becomes a conversation about how interested are the bucks in actually pleasing Janus onto Ticumpo? Because I do believe that this would be a better place for Janus than Golden State if he's thinking about the next five or six years instead of the next two. I also think we underestimate the ego of these people if you think it doesn't matter at all that Janice doesn't want to be seen as going over. I think he's given voice to this. I think he was one of the guys complaining when Durant did this. No, man, I'm not doing it that way. Where I go and Steph Curry's team is I'm the number two and I don't get to

be the reason we're winning. I'm just going to help Steph Curry cement his legacy when I don't think that Janus thinks that Steph Curry is appreciably better at basketball than he is. When I say, this might be blasphemy what I'm about to say now, but I kind of limped up with respect and bias to saying that Janice was the third best player the Heat would ever have. And I walked past Shaq when I did it. But I'm not sure that Dwayne Wade is actually better than Janus.

Like, I'd have to go look at some of these numbers and see what it is that I'm looking at and do some analysis on it. But I'm not positive as I say it. I did it respectfully, but I'm not positive. Just put it on the poll. Who's a better player? Dwayne Wade or Janice onto Tocompo.

Just put that better basketball player, who is forever a better basketball player, Janice or Dwayne Wade, because it's close, correct? That's tough. That's tough, Dan. I don't like that we're putting up that poll. We might not like the results. All right, we put it up, though.

You don't like it. I'm telling you that I limped up to it, kind of scared, and wouldn't even put Janus beyond him, beyond him, even though I put him beyond, beyond Shaq? The answer's Wade. The answer's Wade. You clean that up.

You're doing great. Well, hold on, Desz. Zaz why? Why is it Wade? If we're in the fourth quarter of a huge game and the game is tied, I'm maybe giving you how many minutes left. We're in the fourth quarter and the game is tied. You could either have Janus on your team or Dwayne Wade.

Who are you picking? Oh. Pick him Wade. Of course. It's Wade. I don't know. I don't know. I think Janus, dude, Janice can, he can, he can implement.

pack both sides of the floor. Bam, it's only the best shot blocking guard in the history. That's fine. That's one. BAM shut Janus down. Oh, come on. He was hurt the entire series. That doesn't matter. I just, there's no way I take Janus over Wade in a tie game in the fourth quarter. I trust the team that has to Wayne Wade

in that spot. Fair enough. Whatever it is, it's splitting hairs because this kind of player never available. And at this age, never available. This is still not old. You're going to get five years of Janus. Let's go out to Jeremy.

Words I never thought I'd say, but I'm still reeling from both the struggle to say words, the getting of the Rudy Gay, Rudy Gobert thing wrong. And when I heard the 2013 grizzlies, I was like, wait a second, Rudy Gober is on the grisles. My inability also to have chemistry with my inner monologue is also frustrating me. So let's go out to Jeremy for a life raft. So there are several different teams that can get in on this, Dan. and several different teams that might want to. I'll go through those before we get to the comparison of that Warriors package and the heat. So the Knicks are a team that reportedly Janus may be interested in going to.

Shams and Sam Amick of the Athletic reported that the Heat, the Knicks, the Warriors, and the Wolves are the main suitors. So let's look at the Knicks. Chris Haynes says they don't have enough because what are they going to exchange in this package? They have Carl Anthony Towns. Would the Bucks be interested in towns? probably not. They don't have any picks they can make. So let's eliminate the Knicks from this conversation

unless they can maneuver to get several future picks by completely blowing up their roster. I think that's an important point, right? Like I think James Dolan, I think the entire front office is already kind of doing the math of, all right, if we can get rid of an auxiliary piece here and try and get more picks, maybe there's something to be done.

Isn't it amazing, by the way, if I could also add the reason that the Knicks don't have any first round picks right now to trade for Janus is because of Mackell Bridges. Five of them. That's a tough pill to swallow. If you're a Knicks fan, tough pill to swallow. And it would require more likely than not

moving bridges to potentially Portland, involving them as a third team, because they have those future picks of the Milwaukee Bucks that were part of that Damien Lillard trade. But moving on from the Knicks because it would require a ton of maneuvering. If you look at the Hawks, they actually have a very good package if they're

interested and think they can extend Janus and want to change their window. because what they could offer is Jalen Johnson, who's a really, really good young player that they're presently building around, and the New Orleans Pelicans first round pick, so that the Bucks would be in a position where they have essentially two top five to top ten picks this year

with their own and New Orleans, plus Jalen Johnson, you immediately accelerate the rebuild. That said, there's been no expression that the Hawks would be interested, so we eliminate them from the board. The Nets are reportedly a team that Chris Haynes said could take a big swing, but they don't have much to offer. They have Michael Porter Jr.

Who maybe they can move for different salary to get other places. They have a ton of picks. But would Yonis be interested in playing there? They don't have enough to surround him. We eliminate the Nets. The Raptors. Now, originally the Dallas Hoops Journal reported that the Raptors were a team that might be interested. We know that they're a team that has taken big swings on guys that weren't going to extend before.

We saw it with the Kauai. They won a championship. But the reports have also been they won't move Brandon Ingram or Scotty Barnes in any trade. moving forward because they've been playing really good basketball. They think they have an opportunity to compete. This is similar to the Detroit Pistons who have the ability to make this move, but have really good young players that are playing well and they're at the top of the conference, think they can win now. So we eliminate the Raptors because they only have a manual quickly, maybe R.J. Barrett a couple of picks, but not really as much. The Timberwolves are similar to

the Knicks. They don't have any tradable ferts. They would need to reroute Julius Randall or Nas Reid, maybe Jaden McDaniels to Portland if they're interested in that. But it's going to take a similar amount of maneuvering. The difference being, Janice does seem interested in playing with Anthony Edwards in particular. And so the Timberwolves could be more willing to make things move forward. We can get to the Warriors in the heat in just a moment. I didn't hear anything. He said, Jokovic is about to win this.

Serving for the match. This is crazy. Improbable, yeah. Sinner looked, look, I don't know body language. I'm generally not body language guy, but sinner looked like he knows what's across from him, and I'm not used to seeing that at all. Like he knows it's Djokovic maximum focus, knowing that he just needs to get a couple of serves in in order to win this match.

This is crazy. He's been hurt all match. He's been grabbing at his chest all match. Is he going to knock this dude out? I won't believe it until I see it. But that's an incredible chapter in Djokovic's story. I just registered fear on Sinner's face, and I don't think I'm making that up, because he knows what's across the net from him.

Like, he knows who that is and what it means that he's got a serving advantage at this point in the match. And Djokovic has slowed everything down. Like, he's slowing it down, slowed his breathing down. He's been hurt all match. He's been grabbing in his chest all match. It's kind of crazy, the story arc of Djokovic. He had to, like, chip away. at Nadal and Federer and then he became top dog very clearly the best and then the emergence of Alcarus and

Sam. One more. He is now at match point. Double match point. Wow. Oh, and he's going to the crowd. It's like a baby face turn too because everybody wants to see this happen. It's weird that the greatest of all time finds himself in this position.

It's kind of like Tiger winning that masters a little bit. only Tiger was always super popular. And out of those three Titans of the Sport, Jokovic... Jokovic was always considered the heel of the group. But this is one of the rare occasions that Jokovic is going up against a guy that probably might have more heel juice than he does.

I never do the body language stuff, but Sinter looked like he realized the size of his predicament on his face because you got double-match point here, and Jokovic is one more majors than anyone in the history of the sport. Just a couple of guys slack-jawed watching tennis right now. That's right. An incredible rally. Great audio. Us

watching the theater, though. Al-Garaz. Oh. All right. All right. Terrible play-by-play by me. All right. It's like sinner. Al-Garaz. That rally was 18 shots.

You're like bobbin. He dribbles a ball. He dribbles a ball. He dribbles a ball. He dribbles a ball. He dribbles a ball. Your inner monologue sounded a lot like just you sound. There. Terrible play-by-play by me. Okay, let's do something. This is tough. Let's do something here that is very rare in an audio medium.

Let's watch tennis silently together. We're an impromptu watch along here as match point number two is underway. I'm going to take another crack at this. Jokovic. Tide up. Trying to complete an incredible story. Jokker serves. A match up against Aft.

Sinner. Eric God, it's over. No. It's not, oh, incredible rally. Cinner? We're at deuce. Joker blew it. We're at deuce.

He had his chance. He could have ended it. He had it. Deuce. Oh my God. At tennis matches, do they all yell, doze? Please. Remember how sports fans love the oo sound.

Any oo sound, they love to cheer it. Boo. I can't believe Sinner won that point after that serve. I can't. Caught him flat-footed, Dano. Yes. Why do he hit it to that side? Because he wasn't there.

Great analysis, actually. Hit it where they ain't. Hit it where they ain't. Tennis guy. You got to be better in that joke. He should have hit it differently. All right. Let's go out to Jeremy for more Janice Ante Cumpo talk.

We're talking Yonik Sinner or Janice onto Ticompo. So the Warriors, okay, the position that they're in. Do they want to trade for Andrew Wiggins? That was a big conversation that was happening before. A comminga and a pick for Andrew Wiggins. but Anthony Slater of the athletic, I believe he covers the Warriors. He says they're not interested in Wiggins right now. Now, Brett Siegel says they might be interested in Anthony Davis,

which is an interesting conversation here simply from that Jimmy Butler salary swap perspective. You get a year off of that. But the question that we have here is which package is better between the Warriors and the heat. So, yes, while the Warriors can offer four. picks at the moment and three pick swaps, along with that Butler salary, Kaminga, and if the bucks are interested in Brandon Pajemski. What the reports were from Shams from the very beginning is that the bucks want blue chip talent and they want a surplus of draft picks.

What the Warriors offer... Yeah! Yeah! It's all! Yeah! Yeah! You go! Yeah!

Old guys still got it! The Joe! Let's go! Go! Joker. Joker. Joker. Joker. He was running 2020. Joker. Zaslo, you and I noticed at the same time that they were about seven seconds ahead of us on the televisions in there. And I felt a live feed over here, Dan. I felt so left out. I felt so alone. Tell people feel watching live streams. I'm so lonely. Crazy. That's totally crazy.

Jokevich was hurt all match and rallies and the point I was making earlier Zaslo, of the greatest champions ever, to have more majors than anyone when you played in Federer's age, when you played against two guys in Federer and Nadal on Clay who are basically just as good as you, that's not something Serena Williams had to do. That's not something that Steffie Graff had to do. That's not something that Federer had to do until the end. He was winning his titles early. Look at the emotion, man.

This is what it's all about. It's just, well, so here's the things, Zazzo. When we were talking earlier, do you think that Jokovic knows that Cinner is better than he is? I think he does. The mentality. Well, but you think he does? Yeah.

Because why would Joe? Look at the emotion. Does the emotion he's shown right now tell you that? I mean, he's got to be excited that he was, that he's hurt. Almost looks like relief. And he's able to overcome that. I don't, it's a good question. I don't know when I've told you before that the Van Gundy's always say that the hardest thing to coach in sports is the aging superstar because they tend to lack self-awareness.

They always think they're going to overcome everything because they always have overcome everything. What an incredible storyline for the final as well as, Adkaraz is trying to complete the career Grand Slam, and Jokovic is trying to win a 25th grand slam title. Insane. I got to think he's going to peter out. It'll be like the 49ers, right? This takes so much out of you to get to that,

and now you're playing another guy who's better than this. That's what I've been thinking now. I know what happened in the wee hours, but Al-Qaraz and Zver have had an incredible all-time match too, in which Al-Qaraz kept getting cramps and Zver have kept taking exception to all the evening. injury timeouts that he had. In hardcore tennis, you make it to the final.

Your body's pretty beat up anyways. What's the history between Cinder and Jokovic, like as far as playing before? Like, you know, does the Cinner have a bunch of wins against him? Well, yeah, what's happened here is that Jokovic is obviously aged in a way that's not up for give him daggers for putting you on the spot like that. That was not fair. I'm not a tennis guy. Against the clock.