The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Jeremy Is Fine

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

Today's Crew: Dan, Charlotte, Chris, Tony, Jeremy, Juju. RIP to the 2024 Miami Heat. Jeremy is totally fine, we swear. We mourn the loss of the Heat after getting destroyed in Game 5 and examine where... the franchise goes from here. And again, Jeremy is FINE. Plus, David Samson joins the show to discuss Stephen Ross being offered $10 billion for the Miami Dolphins, Hard Rock Stadium and F1 Miami as well as what "bet your bippy" means. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Solo una disfruta el momento que el tiempo se acaba y pasando vira Viviendo, fumando y odiendo siga vacilando de par y to' los días Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry. To celebrate her one year anniversary at Metalarc Media and because we brought in Charlotte
Starting point is 00:01:59 Wilder at a time that was at the beginning as part of her rookie hazing just to drink her Celtics tears a year ago. Charlotte has now been promoted to the big seat. We have a flight problem here in terms of people fleeing around here. Mike has left the country. I'm not even making that up. Mike Ryan has simply left the country. Cowards.
Starting point is 00:02:22 That is, say it with your chest. I agree. Cowards. You gotta get in there. They. Cowards. That is, say it with your chest. I agree. Cowards. You got to get in there. They are cowards. Mike Ryan has run away. And it's strange, because he was right about a lot
Starting point is 00:02:33 of different things, including saying before the season that they were a play in and that they weren't good enough, which they were not. We'll get to the Heat stuff in a second, though. But Amin Elhassenan is taking like an urgent emergency flight to get here from Boston. He was at the game last night and it makes me recall many years ago sitting next to Greg Cody at a Michael Jordan Heat playoff game. The Miami Heat that was their best team to date. I think that
Starting point is 00:03:01 had 61 wins on the season and I think i have this right uh... the details don't matter as much as the joke greg cody made which is michael jordan is up three nothing in the series and phil jackson son high school is graduating from high school summer until phil jackson has to helicopter into the game because of chicago traffic and everything and again michael jordan was up three nothing in the series. And Greg Cody's joke was,
Starting point is 00:03:27 never has a man hurried more to a place he was needed less than Phil Jackson rushing in to Chicago. And what I would just say to you is, Amin is rushing that way to get here, and he's not really needed, given that the dissection of the heat season tends to be a pretty easy one today. I think there's lots of common rationale that you can bring to the analysis today.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I think there's acknowledgement of where the team stands and where it could have been. Go sit in the penalty box for two minutes. What? That was a quick one. Go sit in the penalty box for two minutes. We'll get back to you. Good job, John. And we're under manned today and under womaned, So go sit in the penalty box and get your act together.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Oh weird. I'm fine. What am I drinking Dan? Is this? Oh, it's heat tears. You're drinking heat tears today. Yes, Charlotte. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Eric Spolster says he's not watching any more Celtics games. I imagine a lot of heat fans are gonna check out of the playoffs now. The Boston Celtics, for I imagine a lot of Heat fans are gonna check out of the playoffs now. The Boston Celtics, for those of you not paying attention, four of the five games that the Celtics played, they played those four games all season long. They crushed everybody like that.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yes, they were so dominant that it was at times, I mean, I said on on-ball, I was like, this team is like a bunch of, watching a bunch of assassins. It's like a John Wick movie with like five John wicks the expendables That's a better. Well. It's just more of them right John wick movie is five John wicks the expensives really not five John wicks There's only one John wicks. You can't be well. There are five John wicks, but in there five different movies It's all the same John wick in a bunch of different movies. She's talking about putting all of them in one movie
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's your expendable is better. Yeah, or it's John wick five times hear me out That's it. What is he? I haven't seen the expendables Dan It's all Imagine the greatest fighters of all time crime fighters all those kind of and Kelsey Grammer thrown together what Fighters of all time, crime fighters, all those kind of people. And Kelsey Grammer. Thrown together. What? With one mission, one circular focus mission.
Starting point is 00:05:30 The guy from Frasier? Yes, Frasier. And Frasier. That is Frasier, right? That would have been a funnier way for me to say it. And Frasier, yeah. I wouldn't have gotten that one. Charlotte, what if I wouldn't have gotten it?
Starting point is 00:05:40 You don't know Kelsey Grammer as Frasier? Frasier? No, I don't know. I barely know Kelsey Grammer is Kelsey Grammer I know country grandma. I feel sorry Let me get me the list of the Expendables and there are multiple Expendables movies because it eventually It was it went out to include Statham and a bunch of others But I think the original conceit was can you believe that Schwarzenegger was it is a Schwarzenegger and Stallone were in the same movie
Starting point is 00:06:03 Is I don't it was Schwarzenegger in The Expendables? I haven't seen any of these movies in such a long time. I could Google it, but what's on my Google right now, I Googled heat collapse, you know, just to have some stuff to talk about today. Who cares about that? Well, do you know what comes up? I care about it, because what comes up is
Starting point is 00:06:19 heat sin scope is a fainting episode or dizziness that usually occurs when standing for too long or suddenly standing up after sitting or lying Feels a little bit applicable for what Miami did Yeah, but imagine a movie that has Sylvester Stallone Jason Statham Dolph Lundgren Jet Li Bruce Willis Arnold Schwarzenegger Terry Crews Wesley Snipes Randy Couture Mickey Rourke Mel Gibson Harrison Ford Jean-Claude Van Damme Chuck Norris Antonio, Antonio Banderas, Liam Hemsworth, Glenn Powell, Stone Cold Steve Austin
Starting point is 00:06:51 Scott Adams, are you kidding me? You're just learning of this now. You're stunned. Charlotte is wide-eyed. That's a real thing. Glenn Powell? Like this is recent? You say the expendables- Expendables one is in from 2010. I think he's listing all of the movies there. I don't think that he is that that was more than one There are multiple expendables movie. You know Miami. He was doing the whole series Hold on hold on a minute Charlotte's trying to make a joke here
Starting point is 00:07:16 Will you get leave room for the stugat seat to make a joke? I feel I feel the power of stugat sitting here. I feel myself just getting cockier and more. I know, but you didn't make the joke. Are you gonna make the joke? Okay, you know what they're called, Miami Heat, Dan? The Expendables. Go sit in the penalty box. No, please, please.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I do think. No, but you can't beg your way out of the penalty box. Go sit in there for a minute. I do think there is a conversation to be had about this Heat team because everyone's just assuming that they didn't have enough. I don't know what we learned about this Heat team this season because of all the injuries I do think there's one thing we learned and it's Tyler hero. I think we learned his ceiling is
Starting point is 00:07:54 Is lower than we thought all right well Let's explain some of this here because I deserve Heat fans and other fans are coming after me today, and I deserve this particular bit of criticism. I have told you along the way, what it is that the Heat's assessment was of Tyler Hero when he was drafted. Devin Booker was one of his favorite players, and the Miami Heat's assessment, not my assessment,
Starting point is 00:08:20 was that his ceiling was Devin Booker, that he should think that high. That was the hope for him. And so I told you that. Before last season though, no one from the Miami Heat told you what I told you, which is now the bad analysis that is circulating all around Heat Twitter and the country.
Starting point is 00:08:42 A whole bunch of people laughing at me because i dared to say a year ago that maxi wasn't that much better than tyler hero that there wasn't that much of a difference now at the time that i said that maxi wasn't the most improved player but my analysis on projection obviously wrong tyler hero cannot believe a team as the primary scorer, the last three, not a good playoff team and not against that defense. And last night, again, they're in 80-point range. They're playing the games that the Knicks and the Heat were playing in the 1990s when the rules were all different because they can't get any offense. And the reason
Starting point is 00:09:21 for that is all of their players are hurt. All of their offense is hurt. And so the only offense they had out there was Tyler Hero. And when that's the case, he'll start looking like Trey Young without the 35 shots because no one for the Heat is ever gonna take 35 shots. I think it's fair to say that there are multiple things here.
Starting point is 00:09:42 The Heat, we never got to see what this team could have been like at full strength. At any point this season, by the way. When Terry Rozier was acquired, you didn't really get to see very many games of him and Tyler Hero as potential scoring options. More starting lineups than any Heat franchise has ever used in a season. And the only team with as many starting lineups as they had that finished above 500, they finished 10 games above 500. It was a war of attrition all season long and you didn't really get an opportunity to see what they could have been at full strength.
Starting point is 00:10:12 At the same time, you are allowed to make the assessment of, hey, there are some tweaks needed to be able to turn this team into a title contender moving forward. He admitted it! He admitted it! Look, I said all year long. No, wait a minute, but if. Hold on, hold on. Yes, thank you, Jeremy, for allowing us to have the opinion. Hey, Pat, can you make some tweaks?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Thank you. No, but. Thank you for giving us permission. Well, can I say. No, you can't say. You're gonna wait until I'm finished saying and then you can say. That's fair.
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Starting point is 00:12:08 with a story to tell. To hear them in person plan your trip at tnvacation.com. Tennessee sounds perfect. Don Lebertard. Yeah enjoy enjoy a long and fruitful run Dan. What was that voice? A Celtics fan. and fruitful run Dan. What was that voice? A Celtics fan. That was a Celtics fan? Well it was me. Stugats! It's amazing to see the mask pulled off and to see you so clearly. You were in such good disguise and I didn't know it was you. It's me, a Celtics fan. This is the is the done libertar show with the two guards Heat fans today do not want to hear about tweaks and while we can sit here and lament injury Everyone can and offer that as perspective That Celtics team has gotten a good deal better and is younger that Celtics team has gotten a good deal better and is younger.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And you've fallen behind them in a way that requires more than just tweaks. It's not just tweaks. It is obvious if Tyler Hero isn't going to rise to be a player like Maxie, it is then obvious that the player you have to get for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler is someone who is better than Jimmy Butler so that if
Starting point is 00:13:26 he's going to age here, he's going to do so not as the lead player. Offensively, fair. Bama DiBio and Jimmy Butler is your core. I think what the issue and the initial reaction has been is this concept of like blow it up, right? What does blow it up mean? Because your core has been three guys. Greg Cody said that dynamite the team
Starting point is 00:13:48 and then he said dynamite it strategically. So where are we on this? Between dynamite the team. It's TNT day then oh. Dynamite the team, dynamite strategically and tweaks. Well okay so dynamite strategically I guess is really what it is right? Because it's taking potentially Tyler Hero
Starting point is 00:14:04 or other players and turning it into different supporting cast around Jimmy and Bam. Dynamite means get rid of everybody. I think we should put Tony outside of the arena just making that gesture. I think we should have like a gathering or create a seance or bring someone over from a Santeria bodega
Starting point is 00:14:25 and go over there and have some sort of ritual that gets the haunting out of that place. TNT day, Dano. You know, obviously it's at the memoriam, everybody wants to see what happened in the season. Greg Cody was right two weeks ago. TNT day, it's right now. Remember when Kyrie staged the Celtics,
Starting point is 00:14:41 the TD Garden? You could see if he's, oh sorry, no, he's busy because he's also still in the playoffs. Yeah, he's really good. Yeah, the Heat aren't. I'm gonna use the player like him. Yeah, the Heat aren't. We're going to.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I'm fine. We're going to hang banners here. The Heat season lasted longer than LeBron's, lasted longer than Steph's. That's right. Lasted longer than Devin Booker's and Kevin Durant's. Those are the banners that are going to go up for this heat season what can we do tony outside of the arena
Starting point is 00:15:10 uh... to get uh... to to give some uh... latin spirituality to get in the vibes out of that place because one of the great this this is the thing that snuck up on me okay and i'm gonna say snuck up on the heat even though they tried to get Damian Lillard. When you've gone two straight seasons as the equivalent of the eight seed and then the top of the conference gets so much better than what you're presently offering, the window just closed, the Butler window just closed, and you've got to see that if you're the organization two years faster than I see it.
Starting point is 00:15:51 The conversation has been getting a star around Bam Inabayo's age and prime, right? And that kind of was the conversation before last season as well, that if you were going to acquire whatever superstar, it was gonna be someone that could compliment both the Jimmy and Bam window, not someone as young as Tyler Hero that was still developing, but someone that was more established. Those players initially that were floated out there,
Starting point is 00:16:16 Bradley Beal, James Harden, Donovan Mitchell even, all of those trade partners seemingly were asking for Bam and Abayo. And so the answer was no, as it should have been the entire time you were building around a future with Bam. The problem has been when the Heat have offered Tyler Hero and Pieces, that has not been enough to get whatever the star is.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And that's why this off season is so complicated. But that's why Mike suggested, and he's not saying Bam's not good, he's your best piece. If you're going to why Mike suggested, and he's not saying Bam's not good, he's your best piece. If you're going to get a star, and I'm not saying trade Bam. No franchise would have Bam and trade Bam.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Unless you're getting like Luca Donkich. Right, that's what I'm saying. If you wanna get a star like that. But we mentioned the heat's window closing. Can you slam a window? Absolutely. What's the most aggressively you can close a window? Might break. You can break it.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You slam doors shut. But then you can still go through it. So I would think slam it. Let me ask you guys a question. You can break it, but then you can still go through it. So I would think slamming it. Let me ask you guys a question. When it comes to the heat, how much of the heat culture, the mentality, the like, we're tough, do you think that ever becomes a liability in terms of- It's never a liability. It's always something that matters.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Even when it gets eliminated from the playoffs, I imagine it coming back in game one of the next series the Celtics play and Strangling Derek way to death see this is what I'm looking for well. Here's the problem You're not gonna get it from me. Oh, but here's only it wasn't sad enough last year When the Celtics were losing so I will tell you what's sad about this. And this is what people will get today that they did not get a few days ago that they wanted from this show when the Miami Heat were down 3-1.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And this is what they'll get today, because there are a couple of things here that really are, they're shivving the Heat fan base. One is that you're watching New York really enjoy basketball right now. Two, you're watching Boston Celtics basketball be as overwhelming as it's been this century. And I'm talking, I'm including a championship team in there. I'm including a team that went to two finals in there when I tell you that this thing that I'm watching that runs rough shot over everybody in the league for an entire season
Starting point is 00:18:26 this can beat anyone that way four times in seven games but this is the part that stings like what i'm about to say even with all your rationale and it is rational about well they were injured and this and this and this after five years fighting at the top of that conference the very two best teams in that conference, rivals, legitimate rivals, the Celtics just ended the heat as we know them. This team like this, Riley does not keep with these things where he's seen things two years later
Starting point is 00:19:06 Then he should be seeing them without changing them. I've told you before that before I think it was a make-a-wish dinner right before Pat Riley was headed to a charity dinner of some sort and told everybody that he was not going to blow up the team He wasn't going to trade anybody and then nine dudes got traded during dinner He wasn't going to trade anybody and then nine dudes got traded during dinner Like during the charity dinner because he will not he's not going to do it this way where he loses to that team Loses to that organization and has everyone knows all the Celtics just passed you and they didn't just pass you as a team They did that yes but now they've done it as an organization because You've got Brad Stevens in charge of something and over the last two years,
Starting point is 00:19:45 while you were fighting at the top of the conference, his team got better than your team. Also, Brad Stevens winning executive of the year. I mean, the broadcast, they said, you know, executive of the year and just panned in on him and just held there. And I feel like that is the cruelest thing that they, that that's what to Pat Riley,
Starting point is 00:20:04 it's like, wait a second, that's my crown like I'm the mastermind I'm the one who builds these things. I find the pieces we need I make the moves that no one else saw coming I've moved these chess pieces and this team is out there. Obviously the injuries you can't you know, that's a very nobody cares It's not here though. I'm tired of hearing what the injuries are the most in your team Okay, so without the injuries then. Without the injuries, if you look at it, I mean, that's what the Heat did to both the Bucks and the Celtics the last couple of years,
Starting point is 00:20:31 is they beat them so handily that they changed the pieces around their core. They had Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum, and they added Derek White, and they got rid of Marcus Smart, and they added Chris Stapps, poor Zingus, because the Heat were too good. You love this course, Josh.
Starting point is 00:20:47 The Bucks. But they added the same deal. No, the Bucks, they added pieces. The Heat, the Heat didn't. Wasn't the Heat, the Heat might come do that? Yeah, they beat them in seven in the conference finals and they changed their team. And the Bucks did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Jeremy's not wrong. By getting rid of Drew Holliday and turning him into Damien Lillard. Put that on the banner too. Put on the banner, made the Celtics trade for greatness. But that's exactly what will happen with you. Made them better. Is that they'll get better.
Starting point is 00:21:09 They'll try to make moves to get better. The position that they're in that is tough is what do you do to get better? Because this off season, this past off season, they tried to do the same thing. They had one conversation with Joe Cronin and then Joe Cronin iced them out, out of of spite and they couldn't land Damian Lillard And then they had no backup option
Starting point is 00:21:30 That's on them to come back and not be able to go from there But their idea was when fully healthy the deepest team we've had all of those things and then it all fell apart in the end Because of a Jimmy but Butler knee injury and Terry Rosie are sleeping wrong on the road Cuz of a pump fake, but it's not a knee injury the pump fake that led Jimmy Butler knee injury and Terry Rosie are sleeping wrong on the road. Cause of a pump fake. That's not a knee injury, it's a pump fake that led to the knee injury. It wasn't like he was trying to leave that as a criticism. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Jeremy, hold on a second. Jeremy, for the record, when you say, what is that as criticism, the pump fake, I'm not going to criticize that pump fake. I'm going to tell you that the first most obvious sign that a star player who was athletic is in decline and Wade will tell you this and Barclay will tell you this. Man, I hated my career when I had to start with all the pump fakes because I had to get guys up in the air because I couldn't be over
Starting point is 00:22:23 them anymore. Like that's how it ages in that sport with scorers and drivers. It's all Jason Tatum did all series was pump fake and draw fouls. Meanwhile, Jalen Brunson would like a word. Jeremy, Jeremy. It's just how you play the game. Jason Tatum is not 35.
Starting point is 00:22:39 No, I'm not arguing that Jimmy's in the same athletic prime. Jimmy Butler, the last few times we've seen Jimmy Butler play playoff games. The last of the finals, he hasn't had legs. The Jimmy Butler I saw against Denver in the finals was a Jimmy Butler who would not beat Denver if they played a thousand times because there was no way he was going to get to one of those 40 point game. He didn't have legs the moment he rolled his ankle against the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Like that was it. He got hurt when Josh Hart fell under his foot. He rolled his ankle. He didn't play for most of the rest of that series. And he didn't look like himself against the Celtics. Caleb Martin was the hero of that series. You remember last year when when Jimmy hurt his ankle and the Knicks were like, you know what? I don't think we're going to go right at him. They're like, we're gonna let you crazy Yeah, we're just gonna let Jimmy rehab in the corner here and not take advantage of that I've got to tell you that as I'm watching what's happening here
Starting point is 00:23:38 this is I Don't think it's prisoner of the moment to say that if I tell you without any of the emotional context One of these teams has been an eight seed for two years and the other one has been Consistently getting better Except when they run into the eight seed yes And now this is the best version of the Celtics that I have seen this century. And I'm telling you that as someone who saw them beat Kobe, who saw them play against Kobe in the finals, who saw them win a championship with Ray Allen and Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett,
Starting point is 00:24:18 that team didn't do what to the league, what this team has done to the league. And Boston's going to largely get to the finals playing all of its games like that because no one in this conference can play with that. Well, it's sort of, it's terrifying. When you, like to watch them play, the ruthlessness and the efficiency. And when they are all, when all of your players
Starting point is 00:24:41 have close to 20 points in a game, your best players, your best players, your starting players, it starts to be like, how does anybody combat that? What is anyone to do when everybody's in threat? You double team one guy? No, but I'll tell you how to combat it, right? It's difficult because the Heat made more three-pointers in one game than they made in all of the rest of the games combined.
Starting point is 00:25:02 The way you beat it is to be better at threes than they made in all of the rest of the games combined the way you beat it is to be better at threes they it than they are but when i tell you that i think this celtics team is better than the one i was watching it or with ray allen i am uh... accounting for the way the game has changed how differently it's played and how perfectly suited the spacing on this team is to beat everyone they play by double digits do you understand how rare it is to see playoff games? I know that he got the one and it distorts things where a team is just from start to finish up by 20 and 30 points
Starting point is 00:25:33 and you're not gonna do anything about it. Like that's not how playoff games work. Not one against eight, not at all. And then they just grind you to dust in the last one. And you can say all you want about the injuries and the offense. The Celtics do that to everybody, whether you're hurt or not they beat you by 20 they beat you by 30 they beat you by 50 a couple of times this season and it's why i'm telling you like it may lose and whatever
Starting point is 00:25:55 whatever the analysis is about their frailties may come to be i don't know what denver minnesota or okc will match up with them in in finals. But if this team doesn't get hurt, like it's a clear sail to the final. And you look at the number one seed in the other side of the conference, in the Western Conference, the Pelicans gave OKC a bunch of tough games, right? And then you look over on the East and it's like-
Starting point is 00:26:18 Not a bunch, not a bunch. They gave them three tough games. They didn't win one. A couple. They swept them, right? Yes. Am I hallucinating? No, Tony's just- SGA hit a game winner in one of them. Three tough games a cup they didn't win one a couple they swept him right yes No, Tony's to SGA SGA hit a game winner one of us it was that was the close one there was there was a couple tough games It's okay. You don't have to entrench yourself here. You can get to my so there was a cook There was a couple of tough games in in a way where there wasn't in the heat and Celtics. They won a game
Starting point is 00:26:40 What are you talking about? It wasn't even close all right Tony goes in the penalty box. You need me here, Dan No, I don't need you here Not if that's gonna be the analysis get a Celtics It was a tough sweep. They gave him a tough. It was it was not really the Lakers The last two games were very good out of the room Do a little research you it's not put it on the pole juju Is there such a thing as a tough sweep and video? Please put on the screen there just the outfit that Tyler hero came into the game with you cannot beat an overwhelming
Starting point is 00:27:11 Celtics team dressed this way you can't this is not I mean come on come on Come on. I said Popeye. I did Waldo. I I said this was as good as maxi I I said this was as good as maxi got a shame Don libertard go peepee stoo guts go peepee. This is the down libertar show with a stoo guts Tony still arguing with me during the break. Tough sweep. Two of the four games, Dan, 50% of the games were under double digits. One by two, one by nine. At Levitard's show, is there ever such a thing as a tough sweep when only two of the games
Starting point is 00:28:02 are under double digits? Lakers almost had a tough sweep against the Nuggets Come on guys. You guys don't watch ball cleaver David Samson real Hoopers. No Tony knows. Thank you David Samson joins us now. Nothing personal is the name of his podcast I suggest that you check it out because there's no one doing exactly what he's doing as a solo voice tackling the stuff He's tackling before we get to him Charlotte, go ahead and have at Tyler Hero's outfit. It is behind me. I don't know where you're looking.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's giant and behind me. And you had thoughts on everything that Tyler Hero is doing here. That hat looks like something that has been in my, like underneath the seat of my car for about three weeks. Just the shape of the hat. I'm talking about something, it looks like something my father would wear because it's not, like underneath the seat of my car for about three weeks, just the shape of the hat. I'm talking about something,
Starting point is 00:28:46 it looks like something my father would wear because it's not, it's, it, and it also looks like a gone fishing hat as well. Yes, but hear me out Dan, that is cool now. The, the, what I, the individual pieces of Hero's outfit, I actually don't have a problem with. I think that this hat is charming. The hat's fire.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yeah, it's fire, it's vintage. I can't read it cause I don't have my glasses on. It looks like an SEC championship game of some sort. It's fire and vintage, but I can't see it. Is it? Well, the writing. The 90s are coming back now. Is that what's happening?
Starting point is 00:29:14 It's 1994, SEC, Gators versus someone. Gators, yep, can't tell, it doesn't matter. Cool hat. I like the black brim. That is a way that the kids these days are wearing the hats, which is a little misshapen. The sunglasses too, fine. For me, it's the boat neck of the shirt
Starting point is 00:29:33 with a little bit of the white shirt. If you're listening to this in the audio medium that some are want to do, this is a red, well, orange, well, sort of heat colored striped shirt with a black collar and a boat neck and you can see some white underneath. And paired with the goatee. It's a normal neck of a normal sized NBA player.
Starting point is 00:29:53 That's what happens when a toddler wears an NBA player's shirt and look, the neck size. That's the neck. That's you push the water down. Shax Shax head wouldn't fit through that. It's supposed to style. Well, I think it would be scaled to an NBA player so that it would still be a boat neck, Dan. He looks very French in a Florida way. I couldn't have any less style, but I like a tight neck.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I like a tight neck with my shirt. Samson, do you have any thoughts here on what it is that we're presently doing? Yeah, there's supposed to be a dress code when you're on the road with your team. And this clearly is not it. Oh no. What year are you in?
Starting point is 00:30:31 What are you talking about? Did you wear a suit up there? Give me a break. Oh no, David. There's a dress code. You have to be presentable when you're on the road going from the hotel to the bus and then the bus into the ballpark.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And I also question the 94. Is that a little dig to Pat Riley? No, it's- Pat Riley does not like 1994. No, is it his age? I'm looking at- Whoa, he is not 94. David, David- No.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Oh, he was born in 2000, Tyler Hero. No, Pat Riley does not like 1994. Charlotte, go sit in the penalty box. No, please do. Go sit in the penalty box for two minutes. Get out of here. I keep having to get up. David, can you just stand up for a second
Starting point is 00:31:10 so I can see your dress code? Can you just stand up? Okay, very good. Perfect, Marlin's basketball shorts. All right. I still have a connection in the clubhouse. I want to talk to you about Stephen Ross, the Dolphins owner, getting an amazing offer. This is not something I think I can recall seeing. Being offered $10 billion for his team, his stadium, and F1.
Starting point is 00:31:43 What did you think of that report the first thing I thought is that he says he doesn't need estate planning but he does he wants to keep certain assets in the family it's hard to pass down three levels of assets that he has which are he's got a huge amount of real estate assets I assume most of those are in trusts, but when you have a team and then the stadium, two different assets, and then people are calling F1 an asset, we should point out he doesn't own F1.
Starting point is 00:32:14 What he has is the ability and a contract to put F1 races on, on his stadium land. And that's very valuable. But the biggest piece of his pie is clearly the Dolphins, which the commanders went for six billion. You could argue the Dolphins are a five billion dollar team. The stadium has a ton of different events. But is it three to four billion dollars worth to own that land?
Starting point is 00:32:40 People outside of Miami, I don't know if you saw this. The land in South Beach is invaluable. I read that on a blog somewhere and I laughed because the stadiums in Miami Gardens, they just show pictures of South Beach whenever they're showing the Dolphins games. But if that offer is real and I doubt it is, it deserves consideration. Tell me about the offer though. Why do you doubt that it is, it deserves consideration. Tell me about the offer though. Why do you doubt that it is? Why do you think that this is coming out?
Starting point is 00:33:10 What did you think of the valuations of F1 and stadium? Just take me through the finances of some of this as you're doing a sporting class with Skipper this week, correct? We've got that coming out tomorrow? Yes, it's coming out tomorrow. We did it yesterday and it's actually a very, very good episode. People like that story.
Starting point is 00:33:30 We have so much to talk about that we did. We didn't even get to this because it merely is a rumor. We had people calling up the Marlins all the time, offering to buy the team and putting crazy numbers out there, even crazier than the 1.2 billion that actually ended up being the sale price. Because people throw numbers out because it makes them feel good that they can maybe finance it or maybe do it or maybe own how cool it is with the Grand Prix this weekend to be
Starting point is 00:33:58 the sort of celebrity that Steve Ross is. But when you break down the different assets, a stadium, and don't forget that Hard Rock Stadium gets public subsidy. People don't talk about that a lot, but they're every deal that Steve Ross has done to bring tennis to bring Grand Prix, even with dolphins, he gets public money for that. But the bottom line is a stadium in general has never been worth, even with the real estate in the billions of dollars. No matter what events you're having there, the biggest one is the Dolphins. And I think the Dolphins are worth less than the commanders, not more.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So 10 billion, if you're going to split it five for one with a billion dollars, the value of an F1 contract, one with a billion dollars the value of an F1 contract. That is something that I don't know if it can't be real because if it were as a business person as an octogenarian as someone with estate planning issues you've got to take that deal. Chris Cody do you know if we have any audio of David Sampson stridently saying that Major League Baseball would not change its uniforms at any point during the season because You came on very strong here. You're you're rarely that kind of obviously loud wrong
Starting point is 00:35:13 Wait, well, how am I wrong? Because they are changing the uniforms aren't they? Yeah, they're no not till next season So you you're claiming all right? We'll see if we can get the sound of what it is you claim. I'll give you the sound. The sound is I said they're not changing the uniforms this year. They looked it up and it turned out David was kind of right. So that's why we didn't cut the sound. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah, we can't do that. We can't cut the sound if David's right. What fun is that? Well, we could cut it off before he's right. What fun is that?
Starting point is 00:35:42 He sent it to me, I said, get this sound out outta here. You guys did that to me the other day. Okay, go sit in the penalty box, Jeremy. I'm just trying to help, man, I'm producing. Changes will be made to both uniforms and pants no later than the start of the 2025 season. Which could be sooner. I wanna ask you about this other story, David, because I think James Dolan is really, or missed already,
Starting point is 00:36:03 just a great opportunity opportunity because Michael Rubin former Sixers owner Has bought two thousand tickets for local distribution in Philadelphia tonight So that the Knicks fans cannot take over the arena again the way they did last time and he's giving them away to first responders I think James Dolan should have bought three thousand tickets giving him away to first responders and I think James Dolan should have bought 3,000 tickets, giving them away to first responders and then sent them all down to Philadelphia. He had a real opportunity to just buy-
Starting point is 00:36:31 A game of first responders? No, yeah. When we played like the Army Navy game we're just full of military. Yeah, see, you're like, you just try to buy a bunch of good marketing by just shipping them around as like bobbleheads all over the place.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Just- 4,000 tickets for Marines right here. Michael Rubin made a mistake here by bringing in Josh Harris and David Blitzer into the conversation. Those are the owners of the Sixers. Michael Rubin's not. He's a former owner who had to sell
Starting point is 00:36:59 because he started an online gambling app. So as part of buying points bet fanatics, he had to divest of the Sixers ownership, yet he then goes public saying the Sixers ownership was a part of this. And it couldn't be a worse look because the irony is that the 2000 seats they bought, you can bet your Bippy are above the camera angle. So when the camera is doing the game tonight, you're gonna see maybe 15 to 20 rows up and it's gonna be plenty of Knicks fans.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Sorry, Dave. And so therefore what he is trying to do by bringing Sixers fans to the upper deck, who gives a rat's pituitary gland? And it just brought bad press upon the existing owners of the Sixers like they're desperate. I found that you'd just brought bad press upon the existing owners of the Sixers, like they're desperate. I found that you'd just be bad every step of the way.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Can we go back to bet your Bippy for a second David? What's a Bippy? What's a Bippy and why are you betting it? The guy that does shows for kids? What? Or is that Blippi? That's Bluie. That's Blippi.
Starting point is 00:38:00 What's your Bippy? What is it to bet one's Bippy? I always viewed my Bippy as my core. Really, it sounds to me like you're betting your grandmother. Doesn't Bippy sound like something someone would call their grandmother? It does sound like something. Holding up stockings with a clipper.
Starting point is 00:38:15 My dear old Bippy. My dear old Bippy. I'm seeing the expression, you bet your sweet Bippy was popularized in the late 1960s television show, Rowan and Martin's Laughin. Funny, that's what I was going to call a podcast I wanted to pitch to you, Dan. Is that what you were referencing? 1960s Laughin?
Starting point is 00:38:34 No, and if that's the provenance, then thank you for telling me that, Chris. I've now learned something. I just say instead of bet your ass, I say bet Bippy. It's On the show. It's a euphemism for an unspecified part of the body Baby, all right, so you can bet your unspecified part of the body generally understood as I think it's a belly button or ass Bet your belly button that that's not happening. Who are you being right now? Who are you impersonating was that a man was a woman, was that a southerner? What was that? Just being herself. That was me doing a version of myself.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You know someone on YouTube commented and said, sounds like Charlotte's on Muscle Relaxers? You've sounded like that today. You haven't really been, like that seat's aggressive. I'm aggressive? If you're gonna sit there, Charlotte, you gotta be on point. You've been talking under your breath,
Starting point is 00:39:26 you've been trying to sneak in, what are you, what are you? What? I think she's been great. Thank you so much. I'm not saying she hasn't been great, but she needs to be a little more aggressive in that seat. Okay, David, why did you say bet your bippy?
Starting point is 00:39:37 There you go. But we already answered that. Well, Charlotte, because I didn't wanna say bet your ass. There you go. Well, maybe you should try saying bet your ass. You don't, yeah, go Charlotte. You don't have medicine. Say it with your chest, Dan.
Starting point is 00:39:49 No, yeah. David, good talking to you. We'll talk to you next week. See ya. Say it with your unspecified body part, Dan.

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