The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Jonny Gannon Slays

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

"Beautiful keister on the young man." Mike Ryan skirted the rules of a punishment from The Bucket, so Dan announced our new enforcer: Udonis Haslem. Also, the joy of finding three peanuts in one shell, Cam Newton's criticism of Tua Tagovailoa, and Sam Darnold's lookin' goooooooooood. Today's cast: Dan, Roy, Billy, Jeremy, Mike, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah. I'm in the point where like my joints start hurting. Okay. Which I think is always the last step. And thermometers don't get me started. It's a whole thing. thing with thermometers. I get the thermometer that my kids pediatrician uses because I assume they know which

thermometer is the best thermometer. So I like, you know, try to sneak a picture and then buy that thermometer because I'm like, this is like if we're out of doctor's office. And then if you take them to urgent care, then they're like, no, you shouldn't use that thermometer. I do the ear thermometer. But then they're like, no, those aren't that accurate. Use the underarm thermometer.

So I'll do the ear thermometer. It'll tell me like, you have a fever of like 100 or 2. And then I put under my arm and it says you have 97 degrees. There's no way there's five degrees. off here. Like, I don't understand it. I don't know if I'm sick if I'm not. Thermometer tells me I'm perfectly fine, so here I am. No, you're sick, and the joints, that's flu, isn't it?

The joints, you don't get into joint, the common cold. I'm getting old, so it could be age also. Does it usually coincide with you not feeling great? Have you considered maybe telling your body not today? Wow. Well, the thing is Chris isn't here, and Zaz isn't here, so I knew we were shorthanded, so I didn't want to, like, you know, an hour before the show, just be like, guys, I can't do this today. So I, you know, I cowboyed up and here I am. You have said to your

body, not today. Yeah, no, I know. And everybody in this office hates that I keep saying not today and keep kind of coming in. I'm doing it for them, whether they like it or not. Please turn in that direction. Yeah. Has it affected your temperament and mood because you also came in saying that the panther season might be over? I'm concerned about my coworkers that love the Panthers. Tony over here, big panthers guy, everybody knows. He's wearing the Stanley C. Panther shirt there. But I have a take, though. What's that? Two back-to-back championships. That's it. It's okay. Like, who cares about next season? Who cares about the season after that? It's over. What the hell you talk about? Like, what does it matter? We don't know the severity of this injury.

Damn, what else do you want? Possibly be the worst. Get it otro. You want to be greedy? You want to have another one? Yes. And another one after that. Keep winning. Already an all-time team want to be irrefutably the best of your lifetime. You can throw back-to-back. Jack, you're good. I want back to back to back, Jack. That does sound better. These injuries end up being serious and they're not going to end up winning, right? And you don't have enough firepower. There's question marks whether or not they have enough firepower.

All they need to do is get in the playoffs, right? But if they don't have enough firepower, we've seen them do it before. We've seen Bill Zito do this before. Do you consider reloading now? You make some moves and you set up for another run? Because you say, you know, we're not going to have enough this year. but the pieces we could get back and you reload. Roy, how bad is this Barkoff?

We don't know how bad. He's rebuilding. Yeah, he already started with the rebuilding instead of the defending. Yes, he started over. But Barkoff and ACL is the worst what's expected? Non-contact injury, man. It looked really, really bad. They're worried about the ACL, but there is, I saw reports yesterday that they're hopeful that it's not as serious as it looked. Yeah, I'm a little scared.

All right. So Billy's toughening it out. Way to Cowboy up, Billy. Exciting. This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stucats podcast. Hey, it's Mike. I'm here in Sunny Alapada. And thanks to some grave oversight by the bucket, let's say, committee, I picked a punishment that was available on the board that was truly a reward. I got to go to a thrift shop and pick out some vintage clothing. and then wear that clothing head to tow. So thanks. I'm here at yesterday, which is a vintage shop behind Daly. My neighbor's out here in Alapada, which is a great sneaker shop. I'm going to go buy some stuff.

Unbelievable display here. I thought as a goof, this might be the play, but then that would actually make it a punishment for me. So I'm not going to do that. Now, I may get this Ryan Leaf jersey either way. because it's gorgeous, but you know me, I love my left turns. There's one piece here that I can't say no to. The Mark Martin Pfizer car.

My man was rep in Viagra before it was cool. Was it ever cool? I don't know. When I wear this, it will be. So the assignment is head to toe, which includes a hat. Great wall of hats here. This Miami Hurricanes Rose Bowl one is calling me. um this one's calling me uh but i'm going to go ahead and take this now jeans are a tricky situation

at a thrift shop i guess is the biggest punishment but i'll go ahead and take these cks and now for the final piece all ensemble including some south beach cobies a neighborly discount that uh i'm sure metal arc will uh appreciate because i am expensing this i appreciate everything this fun shop does. Incredible neighbors. Check them out in Alapata. Thank you very much, kind, sir. What a punishment. That's not the spirit of what we're doing around here. That is not a punishment now. You like what you're wearing. Usually people don't like punishment. So I will tell you now, something that I've been reluctant to tell you guys. It's because I haven't closed the deal yet. He is driving a hard bargain on money. But

we're hiring Eudanus Haslam to be the enforcer on this grid of death so you guys can quit getting out of stuff the way that you're cheating the grit of death. I didn't cheat the grit of death. Grit of death cheated you. The bucket has a board of punishments available. And I will say, well, I thought this was a reward at first. This fabric does not breathe. No.

The jeans, little snug, little snug. And for the shoes, I didn't have time to put in my insoles. So the planophasia little tight. Are we indeed changing the name of thrift shops now to vintage shops? Is that something that's formally made a move? I kind of took some liberties there. I mean, it's thrifty, but the price is a little different. Truthfully, this whole ensemble cost me $500.

Well, cost you $500. Yeah, you guys aren't doing this right. Dan, what he did is he went to the best vintage store in Miami and just got a bunch of stuff that's really cool. No, he was shopping. There's a little spirit of the rule stuff here, Mike. This was supposed to be like get thrifty, so spend, you know, like 10 bucks on a full outfit. But I just kind of can't believe that Udana's Haslam is going from being like the enforcer on behalf of Spow to the enforcer on behalf of me. What is UD going to do?

Fow me if I don't do anything? Oh, go ahead and keep talking like that. Yeah, guys, stupid. Boy, he's not even here. And Dan doesn't know how to negotiate because now he's put his name out there and I would just leverage him. No, we were already close. I actually went with him and his associates. Antoine?

I'm just going to call them associates to dinner, and we're finalizing this. He's going to be around here as the enforcer on the grid of death, so you guys can't keep doing this shit. It's the bucket. Where you don't respect this thing? It's a bucket. Where'd you go to dinner? We went to claw. Who paid?

I did. Oh, okay. So I don't know how close we are, him and his associates just wanted. It's embarrassing when you told the waitress, like, oh, I can't have nutmeg, I can't have this, I can't have that. And he's looking at you, like, come on, dude. It was embarrassing, but he didn't eat anything. Like, he's a very careful eater. He's a former fat guy.

And nobody remembers this, but at the University of Florida, he was a fat guy. Did you guys talk High Lie? Because he's a very involved owner, a very successful one. I hate to admit it, more successful than even Chris and I. He did talk High Lie. He's excited about his Highlight team. You're excited about our High Lie team. Our Highlight team is cooking.

Now, we had a devastating injury to Bueno before the season that had a, it was no Bueno, Tony, that had us needing to use subs. Williams came back briefly. El Barba came back. These are taxi squad players that were undrafted. A big drop off from Buono. We put on our GM hats and we lobbied the league. They were, like, we would not be in the position that we are right now if we just took

this lying down. We fought. We got Robin as a replacement. which is way more fair. And right now, I am proud to announce that your cyclones are top owe the table. I want to at some point put together a list of things around here that we're proudest of because I don't know how high on the list. I'd put the fact that we have been proud supporters of High Lie and helped keep High Lie alive in the American spirit. And it's very high on my list, though, of things that, quirky things that I like that I'm proud that we've done

around here to own a highlight team and totally dialed in on it like the group chat is buzzing we watch every game we our scouting network is deep far and wide dan and it's really cool to see this tree bear fruit because we got unda in there and unda was a new player into the league we had to do a deep advance scout on unda and man he is stout but powerful it just sounds different coming off of his system i was uh i was in a mexican restaurant the other day and on the televisions was our highlight team. I could sit there and be in the restaurant and be the proud owner of a sports franchise that was being televised in the restaurant. I didn't know where it was televised, though. I don't know how they got it or where it is that they found it. Where was this?

Was this ESPN Plus? Where was this? It's on the ESPN app. It's on YouTube. I mean, it's truly a global game. And I've often walked into Mexican restaurants and seen the world's fastest game on TV. So we must go at the same place, to the same Mexican restaurant. Yeah, it's the world's fastest growing sport right now. I can say that definitively. That's not accurate. I don't believe. Name a sport that is growing faster than Highlight.

Pickleball. I don't believe that that's accurate. They plateaued. We're still on the way up. Yeah. Paddle, though. Paddle's on the way up. What's paddle? It's the same thing as pickleball, but people that play paddle are like more sophisticated.

Dan, I feel like paddles are something in your circles. Speaking of plateauing, I read a good question. quote here that I thought was interesting from Davo Swinney. It was in a Dan Wetzel column about how little Mike Gundy changed, how stubborn he was and how he got left behind because he was this kind of stubborn. I thought this was interesting from Davo particularly when he was just talking about the life cycle of programs and businesses, because it wasn't just programs he was talking about. And in this case, those are synonyms now in college football, giant college football weekend this weekend. Quote, you've got the birth, you've got the growth, you've got plateau,

you've got, what did I pronounce it that way, you've got plateau, you've got a decline, and you've got death. Those great businesses out there, those great programs, they don't plateau. So how do you do that? You have to constantly reinvent, reinvest, reset, learn, grow, you change, you have to do that. You don't just change to change, but you have to always challenge yourself each and every year and make sure, okay, this may be how we've done it, but is it still the right way to do it? That is a great quote, and it is the mantra that Chris Cody and I took into the war room at the battle court draft, and the dividends are there, folks. I think we're on our way to the playoffs, Billy, and we got a good shot here.

I'm really hopeful. By the way, what happened to Mike Gundy wasn't any of that. T. Boone Pickens died in 2019. That's what happened to Mike Gundy. Well, he said death. He said there was the death he was talking about. That was one of the things he was pointing. Like the assent of Mike Gundy while T. Boone Pickens was alive funding that program, and man, he would have loved NIL.

But unfortunately, he didn't get to see it in 2019 and then the decline and now death. Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Has there ever been a better booster name than T. Boone Pickens? Because if I'm getting illicit money, I want it from someone named Tiboon Pickens. I know you mentioned Texas Tech earlier in the week. You have no idea how much money they've spent. They've spent an ungodly amount of money. I'll tell you what I saw, though, when I saw their backup quarterback come in and be better than their starter and I saw them be all game more physical than Utah, a team I know to always be physical, I saw their money being spent when I'm seeing them drag Utah.

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school football players. And with all the uncertainty around the sport, they decided we're going to lock in these high school juniors, and if you see the recruiting class for this season and next season, it is Sterling. So I think Lincoln Riley is going to have a bounce back this year, and it looks so far so good. This episode is supported by FX's The Lowdown, starring Ethan Hawke. Allow us to introduce you to Lee Raybon, a quirky journalist slash rare bookstore owner slash unofficial truth seeker, who's always on the tale of his latest conspiracy. This time, his most recent expose puts him head to head with a

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Don Lebertard. Our Panther group chat, we're confident against the lighting. This is a different team. You're a Panther group chat, though. No, I think, no, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified at this team forever, and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers They want the lightning. Stugats. I want T-shirts made for this Panther run. What could be this Panther run? Our Panther group chat, we're not afraid of the lightning.

That's a tagline for World RR3. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. here because Tua's feuding with Cam Newton. We've got the most important Panther player suffering an injury that might be catastrophic

because I don't want to go into the playoffs with Barkoff and Kachuk not having played most of the season. You might not get into the playoffs. I think we have enough, but that's going to be tough. It's a deep team but he's the reason. Barkoff,

I mean, the Panthers, yes. But Barcoff the reason McDavid doesn't have a title and he's their most important player far and away. I know hockey people know that he's a star and hockey people know how good he is, but he does not have the name that reverberates the way that McDavid's name does or even Kachuk's name does because I don't know who you guys would say is the greatest foreign superstar across sports. Anta Tocompo has made the leap, but it is really hard. if there are cultural differences, language differences, personality differences where we don't really get to know you for a star to have his excellence transcend the sport and land in pop

culture. But if you're a hockey fan or if you're paying attention to hockey, the people who pay attention to hockey know that Barkoff's the only human being on earth who slows McDavid. There is no there's no second place. What is the distant second place, Roy, on guy There's no such thing as a McDavid stopper other than Barkoff, is there? No, you're right. I mean, Sam Reinhardt's going up there as far as the Selky Trophy candidates. You got Jack Eichael, but yeah, that's about it. Eichol's tremendous.

But, yeah, Reinhardt, probably the most deserving of the Selky Award. So Reinhardt's in that conversation. Honestly, the guy that will probably have to step up most if Barkov misses any kind of significant time. And we still don't know the severity of the injury, though it did look bad, is Anton Lundell, who's a really excellent two-way player. Your boy, your friend. Anton Lundell gave quote saying he's a Miami Hurricanes guy now because he had such an incredible time at our tailgate and at the game. Anton Lundell, superstar, very handsome man, by the way.

Dresses really well. You turned him into a hurricane fan by tailgating with him? The Miami Hurricanes did. That asylum, the atmosphere, the winning, the way that they look a certain way. The cold ones. Yeah, the cold ones. Before I get to Tua and Cam, Roy, who would our Hampton Farms winner,

the nuttiest fan of the week. I'm embarrassed by a couple of things here. I don't know if this is happening to you guys. I'm legitimately embarrassed by this. I have peanut shells all over the floor of my car because I have been... In the car, Dan? That's on you. That's a wild move.

I know. I know. Stoplight just like that is opulence. How often you get your car washed? That is a man that gets it washed daily. Not daily, but you can go out there. You can take a camera out there and you'll see in the passage. seat that there is that there are you will see that there are there are some peanut shells i've cleaned it up i actually had to get up this is the richest shit you've ever done listen listen i

somebody had somebody has video or a photograph of me to stop like getting out of the car and brushing the skins and the shells getting out of the car like standing up and getting out at a red light because i didn't want to come in here and do it in here like i didn't want to come in here and do it when i was parked yeah because we've got so many peanuts out here. And I want to put a couple of things on the poll here at Lebitard Show. This is something I literally hadn't thought of since childhood. Do you feel genuine delight when your peanut-shelled peanut has three peanuts in it? And you can tell from outside. Oh, that's one of the great feelings. It's like that and finding a 20 in your pocket. And do you feel ripped off if you get a

peanut that's hard to crack that only has one peanut in it. I legitimately, what I'm doing there, because I have not eaten peanuts this way since the first time I was in Yankee Stadium, which is one of my most magical childhood memories. Like, because I'm not only discovering, okay, keep in mind, I'm growing up in South Florida that doesn't have any professional sports at the time except the Dolphins and Yankee Spring training. And I'm going to Yankee Stadium for the first time. And at Yankee Stadium, I'm discovering that I can eat peanuts and just throw shells on the floor.

That is just, look at Roy. What are you rubbing your hands together? You're delighting at the stand. No, I'm waiting for the punchline, Dan. You know what it is. What is the punchline? That I was 46 years old? Yes.

Yeah! Who was on the hill, Dan? Do you remember? Oh, no. I don't remember. Who were they playing against? I don't remember. I just remember the peanuts.

I remember holding my five. father's hand, because this was, the Orange Bowl did this for me, and Yankee Stadium did this for me. And in adulthood, Wrigley Field did it for me just because it was ancient, where I just got a feeling of discovery on something that would be whatever it is that children feel when they go to the Disney World for the first time. But I'm not sure which made me happier, discovering that I could just throw shells on the floor of a place and eat delicious Peanuts or watching Yankee baseball

because we really didn't have pro sports down here. But before I get to Tua and Cam, who is our Hampton Farms winner for Nuddiest fan of the week? Congratulations to the guy that held up the Pongkone Pinga sign. Oh my God. Pong!

Roy! I thought you were... Pink Pong certainly get Pond. One more time. One more time. One more time. Let's try it one more time. Pond Pinga. Okay. There we go. All right. bit. Thank you. You want to do the next

part? No. Sayaka boy, Bon. Yeah, that guy is this week's nuddiest fan presented by Hampton Farms, the official snack nut of the tailgate. Keep an eye out for Lucy Rodin at Arkansas if you think you are the team's nudiest fan.

We have a good college football to talk about today, but to translate Pancombinga is bread with Dick and we're all out of bread. Yeah, and that played out on the field Saturday night. I did just go check out Dan's car. I think we have a photo of it, and I can't confirm peanut shells are in that car. Somehow, not the strangest thing on his car floor. There are four huge jugs of

distilled water. I don't know what that's about. That was actually more strange to me than the peanut shells. Well, if you must be this kind of invasive, I volunteered this, and so I invited it. I told you guys recently that my elevator in my building has now been broken for three months. And I have water that's delivered by the giant jug, but nobody wants to bring

it up eight flights of stairs. So I now have to buy distilled gallons of water in order to have the water I need and I'm walking upstairs with them two at a time because I have to have water. What are you guys looking at me like this for? You drink distilled?

I don't think you're supposed to drink it. I have distilled water for a sleep apnea machine that I need. I have distilled water for coffee that gets run through the machine. But wait a minute. What do you mean you're not supposed to drink distilled water? I'd be learning that for the first time. Can you just drink distilled water from the jug? I thought it was for cleaning wood.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Find out if I'm going to get sick here. That was for the Navage only. And if you kept searching through my car, you would find even stranger things. But Mike, that's the cleaned up version of my car. like that that's me at a stoplight brushing all of this off of me but i'm telling you i wonder if you guys have any of this do you guys surely if you've lost parents or you had somebody who cooked i have one of those uh you have stuff that tastes like childhood stuff that tastes better

because it's not just that you're eating something but you're eating something that comes with memories certainly you guys can answer that question for me there must be smells for you from childhood cooking that you recognize as well. Smells for sure. Dunkerroos, those take me back. Do any of the rest of you have a childhood meal or childhood food that tastes a little better in adulthood because it's reminding you of something? Peanuts are one of the few. I'm telling you, I probably haven't had crack shell peanuts in about 40 years. My dad's ribs. Those barbecue ribs are Awesome. And the smell of charcoal, like, brings me back to the end of that. The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox is an eight-episode Hulu Original Limited series

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Other dudes, they can be Giambi. You know your role you play well? I know my role. This is the Don Levitar show with a Stugats. Let's go ahead and play this sound of Cam Newton here talking about two of. before we get to some of the other stuff going on locally. A lot of people are talking about Tua now. Nick Wright was on with us last week and said,

we've got to take the microphones away from Tua because he sounds sensitive and defensive, and he's not quite in the position right now to argue against his detractors from O and 3 with Billy saying that Monday is another must win, Billy. Yeah, must win Monday Night Football, Dolphins, Jets. I agree. Thank you.

You disagree with that? Well, I think their season's already over. Well, if you want any hope for the season to not be over, then you absolutely need to win. And this might be a Waterloo game. You can't keep doing this, Mike. It's like the fifth one of the season. You can't keep doing this.

I mean, I don't expect all these Waterloo games, but this one for sure, for both teams. Among the problems that the dolphins have, I heard Rolofsky talk about this today. The way the game has been altered, you better have a McBride. You better have a tight end. that you throw to 10 times a game. They had one last year in Janu Smith. They traded him. The best of the offenses they've had two years before that.

They turned Gaseki into somebody who was a problem as a fourth and fifth option. I think they're getting the worst tight end results this year of anybody in the league. They do not have that as an option in the offense. But that was Chris Greer again with roster construction where they decided we don't want pay Jonu Smith so they let him trade him. They let him go. And then the backup plan is hopefully Darren Waller can come out of retirement and produce for this team. And he hasn't even seen the field. And people are right so far on Waller and I am very wrong and being hopeful that that was what was going to open up the field in the middle. But now what you see happening to the dolphins is

they're being dared to throw to the outside because the middle of the field has been taken away. I saw some highlights from that 70-point game against Denver. And what you see is just Tyreek Hill running across the middle of the field. And there's no one within 20 yards of him when he's the second or third option. That's all been taken away because they don't get any tight-end production. And they're just daring to it to throw to the outside. But here's Cam Newton talking about Tua. Tua Taka-Loa is making more than Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hertz, Baker-Mayfield, Matthew Stafford,

Jaden Daniels. Am I pocket watching? No, no, no, no. I'm putting things into perspective here. What big he say, more money, more problems? Well, in this case, it should be more money, more expectations. When I see Tua Tongue Volo over this year alone, I've heard him more than I ever have. That's not to say you can't talk.

I like quiet to her, Alabama to her, chip on the shoulder to her. Not is somebody going to come. in a watch fan. Hey, let's see what this is. Hey, I was this, since I was dead, taking certain things. Man, bro, what you're being paid, what you're asked to do, what you have the capability of from one quarterback to the other, I look at a situation that's like, bro, come on, dog. It is really crazy to see that both players, both quarterbacks who were in Carolina, Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, are now reinvented somewhere else. Darnold has been better so far this season in Seattle than he was in Minnesota.

Let's play Tua's response here to Cam Newton. Or Cam Newton say it too. Well, anybody can play quarterback in this league then. I mean, I want to see anybody on the streets come and play quarterback. I mean, Cam, Cam's doing this thing for sure. But I think it's easier to be able to hold a clicker and talk about it that way or talk about what someone else is doing wrong when you're, you're not going out and having to do the same as them, right?

So I think it's easy to do that. I think anybody can do that. I don't think anybody can play quarterback. I mean, I'm worried about Tua. He knows that Cam Newton play the game at a very high level. It doesn't seem like the trophy was, right? He was the MVP of the league. He's like, it's easy to armchair me from like a studio.

That guy's got the bona fides. I would rather have Cam Newton start on Monday night than Tua. That's crazy. I think the dolphins would have a greater chance of winning the football. You'll see Cam his last, like, two seasons. I'd rather him just take the ball and run it three yards at a time right up the middle in a QB draw than what the offense is going to be with Tua. Even when he was on a decline, though, he had a couple of, like, games. Yeah, he had Chaudy.

It's been a while since he's gotten physically abused as a quarterback. Yeah, like, I think he's got one more in him. The thing with Tua is there wasn't much of a debate on paying Tua nationally. Like, the main concern is, can we invest this much money in a guy that is a hit away more so than, I mean, I know everybody's a hit away, but more so than the average person. That was a real debate. It was never really the performance because everybody was pretty well convinced that if this guy is healthy, he's worth the money. It's pretty shocking that he's healthy, well, presumably healthy, and he's bad right now.

You have heard me make the argument that the dolphins, a regional team, have three personalities that are nationally relevant, all of them polarizing. McDaniel, Tyreek Hill, and Tua. And the most polarizing of them is Tua, because we've been arguing four seasons now, is he good, is he worth the money? And you're right when you say that most of us would have said, just like you pay Trevor Lawrence. If Trevor Lawrence is going to get that money, then Tua deserves something close to that money. But I think I can make the argument as we speak here when all of us know, all of us know. that in sports, what happened to Barkoff can happen to anyone at any time. You're doing things that are physical, injury risks are prevalent, and they are largely random.

But I go ahead and defy you to take all of sports right now and give me a guy more likely to be injured in the way we do the diagnosis while assessing what players are than that guy, where you just assume that he's a bigger injury risk than other people because you're assuming he's a hit away from retirement. Like if I gave you all of sports and said, give me a name that you just think of. And I know it's not fair, but it's what we're doing. Retirement's different. I do think Joe Burroughs inching towards that conversation.

Like, this guy's more likely to get injured on a given hit, even one that looks like kind of run of the mill. But career ending, it's too by a wide gulf. Christian McCaffrey's not too far away. Like, it feels like he's a couple hits away from like, oh, something's not really right. He's not even so much hits with him because he's still running pretty hard. I mean, he's out there and he's been excellent this season. I think he's shocking a lot of people with how good he's been. But it's like he's got all these like muscular injuries and ligaments. Yeah, that's scary. Chris Olav is good for two concussions a season. Yeah, I'm worried about him. If he has another bad concussion, like we might be talking to a status there. It is interesting though when I think about it to just offer the audience. I'm giving you all of sports. Who's the guy that you think is the biggest injury. risk and dolphin quarterback is where a lot of us are going down here. I want to talk for a

second before Dave Damishak comes on here to talk yet more football about do you guys know the team the team that has the most explosive plays by percentage in the entire league, the offense that has the most explosive plays by percentage. I would I would guess, Tony, MVP candidate, Indianapolis, just because I never see them punt. The answer to the question is the Seahawks. Wow, dude. Look, Kevin O'Connell's a really good coach, and I think we all kind of attributed what we saw from Sam Darnold for the first time to a great head coach that knows how to coach

quarterbacks. He's doing this now with a defensive-minded head coach, and I got to say he looks terrific. Not just the results on the field, no, he physically looks terrific. This dude was a little puffy in college. He was puffy his entire career. His body looks lean. He's flashing athleticism. It looks like he's learned from all the stops.

It's not just lean. He looks Josh Allen big. Like you see him on the field and he looks big. We've learned the last couple of seasons that he can run, that he surprises you with his ability to run. But he also just looks thicker, larger. When it comes to that position and how often people get hurt, you know, the first couple of weeks,

of the season. We lost five starting quarterbacks. That by percentage is an enormous amount. And our analysis the first month of the season is going to be irrelevant a month from now because of all the people who do get injured in that sport. But he does look physically impressive and they have a 21%

explosive completion rate and what they did last night was produce a game that you didn't have to pay attention until the last four minutes of that football game. The last four minutes of that football game, ended up taking more than 30 minutes of real time and it was all decided in there and it was

interesting because Kyler Murray who's who's never been pressured like that that it was six sacks and he had less time to throw than he ever does and he got bailed out on a fourth and four by Wilson that he threw too early but he was getting rid of one-handed catch he was getting rid of the ball very fast and the thing that won't be analyzed about last night's game because we'll talk about everything else is you cannot be the Arizona kicker and let them start at the 40-yard line because you can't kickoff correct. I are right. I am really upset that I have to learn these kickoff roles. I thought like what's this drop zone? What do you mean? I don't like it. And now like all that you got dirty kicks. Mike Rabel's breaking down film of Carolina's dirty kicks.

That's a stupid way to lose a bet because a dude was just trying to be sneaky and it bounces two feet. Look, what was so wrong about the previous kickoff rule? I know. we didn't get runbacks, maybe back them up five yards so you can get some runbacks. It was a player safety thing, but this thing is confusing and is bad. I don't like it. That game was awesome. Okay, you can change all the rules that you want. You still can't be the kicker in that situation and allow Darnold with 30 seconds left

to start his own 40-yard line. No. In a tie game, when this is what you got at the early parts of that game. Kyler Murray, first nine drives, first nine drives, 130 yards. Six points. Last two drives, 119 yards, 14 points. They come all the way back. You have all the momentum in the game. You've come back in a game. You don't have a business being in because so far Marvin Harrison looks a bit like a bust and even the touchdown catch he had in the second half. That catch by probability rate, he wasn't open at all. No, no zero separation

from that guy. It's weird to see. I don't even understand. I really don't understand how that player who I saw in college, who was better than everybody else, isn't faster than the people in the pros in any appreciable way when he was drafted to be faster than the people in the pro. And he spent his entire off season getting heavier and slower. He put on like 25 pounds of muscle. Dude, that guy, you said that there wasn't a reason to watch that game outside of the last four minutes.

I disagree. I was locked in on Marvin Harrison, Jr. loafing the entire time. You want to talk about this dude has the worst body language I think I've ever seen. I was just on, there's a saying that I have with my football friends dating back, you know, 15 years, Vrable Cam. Towards the end of Mike Vrable's playing career, I was just fixated on him because he was getting old and he was out of position and I'm like, man, this guy's bad. So ever since then, any time I think a player is bad, I lock him in on Vrable Cam. Marvin Harrison's been on Vrable Cam this entire season. You can tell when it's a run because he barely gets off the line of scrimmage.

He looks like he hates being out there and maybe that's a thing. Maybe he just hates football, but it is painful. I know who his father is. He was a great player. He was a great player. I'm sure his father is probably disappointed in the young man. And you don't want that guy being disappointed in you. No.

This is a Jonathan Gannon problem, obviously. I want to talk about him for a second because I don't believe there's a more stoic coach in the league. Every time they go to a camera angle on him. And the truck is saying this is a situation to go to the Arizona coach, to see his reaction. He looks exactly the same way. So put this on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebitard Show. And I'm bummed that Zazz isn't here today because he's been waiting for this question all his life. At Lebitard Show, would you respect Jonathan Gannon more if he went by John? Who, historically, who are the great Jonathan's in sports? If I give you Ogden,

I'll give you Ogden as a table set. Jonathan Taylor? Hoover Doe? Villma. Belma Papalbon I think I still got you guys on Ogden I think Ogden is the best Yeah Papobon follows you

Yeah I don't know why That's a random one We'll get Damashak To chew on that one a little bit Jonathan I believe you are a lesser athlete in sports That we will respect less If you go by Jonathan instead of John

If I give you him as John Gannon You would think that he's got more control Over his team No doubt That's an action movie star I'm building a franchise around John Gannon. But not Jonathan. No, Jonathan Gannon.

Why does he go by Jonathan? I don't like that. That is a bad move. You should be worried about this coach just because John Gannon's right there for him. Yeah. What about Johnny? Johnny Gannon, fine. I like Johnny Gannon's cool.

Out of all the options, we can all agree. Jonathan, worst. Worst. Do you guys agree, though? And I'm not, look, I'm not watching a ton of Arizona football. But every time I see Jonathan Gannon, he is. Stoic. Well, I'll make it. I'll do you one better here. I was worried last night, Dan. We'll get to that in a second. I'm going to give you guys all the games the Arizona Cardinals have played since Kurt Warner took them to the Super Bowl. Give me a reason to watch any of them. Give me a memory from any. If we if our show, if our show, I'm not saying they haven't had good seasons. I'm saying if our show had to as an assignment, tell me.

proved to me that we had to talk about one Arizona Cardinals thing since Kurt Warner was in the Super Bowl. If I told you our show since Kurt Warner was in the Super Bowl had never once discussed Arizona Cardinals football, would you be able to prove me wrong by saying, what about this one time with this one game, with this one moment? Yeah, the one time, the one game is Aberderas, Hail Mary, Mike McCarthy once again blowing it for Aaron Rogers. Carson Palmer beats some. That was a great team. That was post-Curt Warner. And we wax poetic about Larry Fitzgerald's ass.

Exactly. Larry Fitzgerald's ass. That's the one thing. That was mine too. I was going to say. He spent a lot of time on that. Beautiful keyster on the young man. It was. Johnny Gannon drove a Corvette at high school, right? Oh, for sure. Johnny Gannon's like a high-flying OC. He's averaging 40 points of game. Johnny Gannon slays. Yeah. Yeah.

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