The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Juan Soto Record-Breaking Contract Reaction

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Amin, Billy, David Samson, and Mike. David Samson has a TON of thoughts on Scott Boras negotiating the largest contract ever at 15 years and $765 million for Juan Soto, but we'll get to those in a minute. Dan, Stugotz, and the rest of the crew outside of Samson kick off today's show by laughing at the Yankees, looking at what Soto's signing means for MLB and the Mets, praising Steve Cohen, and watching videos of Yankees fans like John Turturro's brother losing their minds. Was Soto EVER going to sign with a team that didn't simply offer the most money? Eventually, Dan welcomes Samson into the fold and tells him to "eat it" after Scott Boras wins again. Folks, the horse is out of the barn. Plus, we hear from noted Yankees fan, Taylor, through a Soto serenade. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yesterday Smirnoff sponsored Stugats's live Jets tears. Do you know how rare a commodity that is to get that live and unfiltered? We will talk Jets Dolphins in a second. But I saw something happen yesterday Stu Gantz that I have not seen happen around here and if you want all of your football information go to God Bless Football right now they get out before the rest of us as does David Sampson on Nothing Personal. They get to the content of the workweek faster than we do we televised your tears yesterday

and i didn't think during the football sunday right and we've talked about this before what has to happen in sports to make its way into get out of the way charges chiefs get out of the way bills rams there's something else here there's a sports news thing that's bigger than football dot such a thing does not exist what is it the OJ Simpson freeway chase no there is a thing Juan Soto gets three quarters of a billion dollars and he's not a superstar celebrity like he's an exceptional baseball player he is now he's an exception well but he but he's just he is not a star like he's a star

baseball player he is not a star like all of us know here in sports just he is not a star like he's a star baseball player here i is not a star like all of us know here in sports that he is excellent what he does but scott boris wins again and david samson hates scott boris more than he hates anyone publicly or privately that i've heard him talk about but i don't want him infecting our football monday cuz i got a regional crew in here and demean i want to start galloping on football

but samson's like you gotta talk so don't you gotta start with so don't like what i have to start with so little money story go to great ruin sports again money guy a money story you know you gotta start with so don't you guy who told me that the hundred million dollar contract was going to wreck the I'm watching the Dodgers got a billion deferred and a

guy who's not a star gets three-quarters of a billion dollars that was enough to get into football wasn't it like you were all interested in that that the Mets stolen from the Yankees why was that so interesting to you guys the money yeah the money money yeah the lots of it so so. Lots of it. So so much of it. Mm hmm. So much money. Yeah. Not deferred. Yeah. Not deferred. It's crazy. He's leaving the Yankees for the Mets. That's that's interesting too but yeah, it's the money. That's gonna be a bad deal. I just said I don't I want to be that

guy. That's gonna be a bad, a bad deal. That's gonna be the Caprera deal, right? 15 years, $765 million. I thought, I thought, and I was wrong. Pie on my face. I was wrong. Juan Soto, two years ago, when he turned down a 15 year, $440 million contract,

I said, buddy, you're turning down a guaranteed $440 million. That's insane. You can get injured at any point in time. I said buddy you're turning down a guaranteed four hundred and forty million dollars That's insane. You can get injured at any point in time. I agree with you. Yeah, since he turned that money This was him with the Nationals and we're all discovering holy shit the Nationals got a right-handed hitter who's Ted Williams and he's 22 years old He's gonna lead them in all the World Series stats. What's this guy worth? Well since he turned down that 15-year40 million dollar offer, which again at the time I was like that is crazy dude, 440 guaranteed million dollars, you take that if they offer that to you, like you're set for life, your children's life, your grandchildren's life,

like you're good. Since that, last year, since he was not playing under that 15 year contract, he made 23 million dollars and then 31 million dollars and now he has signed a 15-year $765 million deal. So Boris doubles this, okay? So after we were, we all thought he was crazy. We're like, who the bleep has won Soto for the Nationals to offer him 400-something million, which is double what Stanton was given by Sampson,

when we all thought that was an apocalyptic contract. But Billy is saying, had Soto signed signed the contract that Billy wanted him to sign. That I thought was a great deal. It would have cost him a half a billion dollars. No, it would have cost him 300 million dollars. Yeah, like it's crazy how much it was. And by the way, like and here's like he can't pitch. Like Shohei Otani got paid 700 million dollars because like he can pitch.

So like he's basically two players. No, Otani is already value. Otani with paid $700 million because he can pitch. So he's basically two players. No, Otani is already value. Otani with all the money deferred? By the way though, it's 10 years. This is a 15 year deal. The crazy thing about this is I saw Jeff Passan talking about it and he's like, yeah, he really believed in the direction of the Mets.

Really believed in the direction of the Mets. What is this hogwash? What are we even saying right now? Because the Yankees offered him, I think, $5 million less. I think it might have beenes offered him, I think, five million dollars less. I think it might have been one year more, which a 16 year deal is crazy. Crazy, he'd be playing until he's 42.

But still, man, the Mets are gonna be paying Juan Soto 51 million dollars when he's 41 years old. Like this Stugatz is so Mets, this deal, is so Mets. It's just, we really need to get in the game we really need to throw all of our money at the star if I may one insane level if I may okay because I know this is making Samson crazy can you guys in the video room show us Samson state right now because he hates Scott Boris more than he hates anyone in the world and right now he's hearing our show talk about a story where he has vastly more expertise than us and and

he is doing so while locked in a cage with scott boris who's got horns on his head and what billy just articulated scott boris just doubled the value of that contract in a few years on sodo uh... the the contract that was going to be four hundred forty million that Soto turned down, Boris almost has doubled that in a few years. I'm certain the Mets are thinking, though, we'll get to David in a second, I think, but I'm certain the Mets are thinking, hey, we'll take the next 10 years. I'll pay off from ages 36 to 42, but we'll get the next 10 years of Soto in his prime. So this was just texted. And it's not my money, so what do I care?

This was just texted to me and it was pointed out by yesterday someone on social media. The Mets just signed a 37 year old Juan Soto to a four year $200 million deal. That's what they did yesterday. There's no way that David Sand, we haven't heard from him yet, there's no way that he likes this deal

when he thought that the Ichiro deal was gonna be at a baseball. I wanna get to his thoughts and we will get to his thoughts in a second, but I can't believe that there's a story and it's money that knocks football to the side. And let's get to some of this sound because one of the great joys in here is, I'm sure Yankee fans will be totally reasonable about this. I'm sure Yankee fans coming off a World Series when they're like, hey Steinbrenner, Steinbrenner family,

you know what we do when the Dodgers out money them? We out money them. Like throughout the history of what this family is, when the Yankees lose to the Dodgers, Steinbrenner buys more people. I mean, George Steinbrenner is rolling over in his grave right now. He is.

Well, we'll get to David in a second, but I wanted to ask you, Dan, and you, Billy. I think I've heard, and again, guy casually following baseball from afar, I've heard, man, that's a terrible contract, I think three times recently. Bryce Harper and Garrett Cole and Shohei Otani just because we've never seen something so enormous. Aren't all those guys delivering on that? Aren't they kind of with their performances,

proving that those weren't bad deals? Counterpoint, none of them side with the Mets. Well, Sampson is, you know, corporate shill and likes to protect management against giving away its money. And he has been telling us, as baseball owners have for a long time, that baseball can't keep affording this while the Dodgers

defer a billion dollars in payment and what's really winning at baseball is having the best regional tv contract but the sport has gotten yes it's it's gotten that clean where the end the dodgers the advantage the dodgers have that the mets will not have with so does the dodgers right now are making money on deferred otani money they're doing it in japan as well they're doing it internationally the amount of money they're making all over the place so those just gonna be stood out

he's gonna be in new york baseball player right he's gonna be in if not in the shadow of judge he won't be allowed to be the same star the judge is uh... probably not right because he's not playing for the Yankees. A Mookie Bet at 365 million dollars seems like a bargain. It is amazing. These numbers are ridiculous. This is why they're not ridiculous okay. This part I would ask you to listen to the sporting class where John Skipper and david samson with pablo tori really break down some of the numbers in sports in ways that can't be argued

we find ourselves with this kind of money being thrown around it has to make david samson crazy as someone who is tried to keep costs down in this sport and just sees that scott boris the man he hates more than any other just doubled so those price tag is all you gotta do is make the yankees and metz both want the same thing then everyone in the sport will turn into an idiot and wouldn't you love to have that as the way that football does business how how

basketball does business where the rich guys could actually just by what these regional tv contracts are do you realize the baseball union the greatest genius of all was was that they never allowed for a salary cap so these owners would always have to do this so that david samson couldn't hide in the shadow with his extra hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars and would have to share with the players because of tony's a bargain of tony's cheap, he's already cheap.

But he's also not Juan Soto, right? Like I do wonder, Juan Soto bring $51 million of value to the Mets, like are there people going to the Mets game because of Juan Soto who weren't going to the Mets games before? I mean if the team's better, it stands to reason more people would go, right? Not $51 million a year more.

Yeah, I'm curious, David Sots, and we'll get to him in a second, but I don't think that this is all about making business sense. You have an owner that is a huge fan of his franchise, and I think he understands that this isn't the best business. It'd be great to actually hear from David on this, but I'm curious your thoughts on this first,

and because you do follow baseball, what do we do with the recent examples of everybody complaining about these contracts but the guys deliver? I love that everyone in the American economy is seeing what these players are actually worth when you get these CEOs bidding over them because when you don't have a salary cap everyone goes crazy. The Yankees and the Mets go crazy, and this is why, Stu gots,

I wanna play some of this sound, just some of it, okay? There is, we've got two bits of sound here from just random Yankee fans, all right? So this is Nick Tarturo, I don't know what's a, and I- It's John's brother. I don't mean to mock him,

the longest yard is what I remember him from, the second longest yard. He was also like a sideline reporter at one WrestleMania, or at least at SummerSlam. I don't mean to mock him. The longest yard is what I remember him from the second longest yard It was also like a sideline reporter at one WrestleMania or at least a summer slam. Hmm NYPD blue Okay, so I'm not mocking his credentials, but his brother is known as John's brother. That is that he gets stuck with that He is a Yankee fan and he's unhinged Hey Juan Soto, I got two words for you. F*** you, that's right. F*** you and the horse you rode in on and the cavalry behind you.

That's right motherf***er. Yeah, I'm taking it personal. We gave you our love. We gave you our f***ing heart and soul. It wasn't enough. You turned your cap around after the World Series. I saw that f***ing move. 700 million, 730.

Yeah, it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. Guaranteed years, it wasn't enough it wasn't enough guaranteed years it wasn't enough you don't even choose the Dodgers you don't even choose the Dodgers go off-Broadway to the Mets you don't want to be on Broadway and you don't want to be judges guy you don't want to be judges partner oh that's right judge now it's your team that's it let's stick it up his ass that's right let's go out let's get burns freed freed, pregnant. Let's go to the Oscar. I don't give a fuck. Now we're not fucking around.

We're gonna take those crunchy whatever those fuckers are. Those stupid men. I don't give a fuck. That is the best acting he's ever done and he's not acting. No doubt. He's not acting. That's the best thing that he's done

and we'll get David's thoughts on that in a second, but that's the best thing that he's done. And we'll get David's thoughts on that in a second. But that's the best thing that he's done since the guest ring announcing the main event at WrestleMania 11, Shawn Michaels versus Diesel. I am finding it really funny that Yankee fans are all of a sudden like super pissed off that there's another team that's just buying all the best players. Like, they can't comprehend.

Like, that used to be them, and they hate it. No, but it's all the same. The problem is it's the Mets. That's right. They have the Dodgers, too. They would have been fine with them going to unfair! The problem is, it's the Mets. That's right. They would have been fine with them going to the Dodgers. No, they're not fine with losing out on this. They're not fine with losing out on anybody, but they hate losing to that team.

Look, they are the gutter. They are the second team in that town. The Yankees have always owned that town. The Mets have always been trying to steal that town from the Yankees. The Mets don't get the players the Yankees want throughout history. Not any Steinbrenner clan allows that.

But the Mets finally have an owner who's willing to spend that kind of money because he has the money. He doesn't care if he loses money. He's a lunatic. He hates David Sampson. David Sampson hates him as well. So we'll get to David Sampson's thoughts on this in a second.

Because they're stronger than anyone in the industry, Stu Goss, because he's really got some expertise here as someone who hates Scott Boris and he hates Scott Boris and someone who hates Stevie Cohen, I think. And someone who was a former president of a major league team. No, and like, likes to tell us at every turn, these salaries are out of control, even though we never give them. And then it gives one to Stanton. And now Stanton's like the sixth highest paid Yankee.

The whole thing's asinine, the way that these guys at the top of this business just play with these pieces, these toys, because they've been pocketing these hundreds of millions for years. David, we'll have great insight as to this question, and we'll get to it in a second, but do you guys actually think this moves the needle

and sells tickets? Because every time I tune into that team, like during the regular season, the crowd is kind of disappointed. Well, I would ask you, Stugats, look, we've made fun of Stugats' Mets fandom. Stugats, I would say, is as famous of a Mets fan as there would be anywhere in sports radio.

I was gonna say Jerry Seinfeld. Right, Seinfeld. Sports radio. Sports radio, I mean. In our industry, look, I don't take for granted when we get to be national voices on things. Sugat gets to be a national voice of fandom on Jets, on Mets, but over the years, the Mets have broken him.

Yeah, well baseball has broken him. So when he signs Francisco Lindor, which was a previous giant contract, when Stugas plays who that is, he can't figure out who the shortstop is for his own team. He doesn't recognize him on site because he checked out on what the Mets have been for too long. Yeah, Jose Reyes is, he's a good player, he is. Listen, I love the Soto deal, and if Mike's gonna ask me, and we'll get to David's thoughts on this

in just a second here, but in terms of ticket sales, I have to think it's gonna help. You're getting one of the game's best players. He's coming off a 41 home run season, and he did it in the Bronx, and now he's doing it in Flushing, Queens. I mean, the Mets had to do something

to kinda come back from Grimace last year, right? Yes. So now they're focusing on baseball. Bounce back. So I'm sure Yankee fans will be reasonable about this Here's one of them outside of shitty field. Look at this This is where the Mets like the Yankees look down on all Mets things to lose the player They wanted their World Series star the guy who protects fragile judge to lose him to the Mets is the worst of indignities. Yo Juan Soto listen up man this is your new home this is your new home right here shut the up and don't complain look at this look at this panning around right across the street

look at this he's panning at the dump around Shitty Field. You chose this piece of sh** to be your home for the next 15 years because you're a money hungry f*****. F***** you. F***** you. Every Yankee fan should burn you f***** jersey. F***** you, on Soto. S**t my f***** dick.

F***** you too, Scott Boris. S**t my f***** dick. F***** you too, Scott Boris. F***** you too, Scott Boris. F***** you too, Scott Boris. F***** you too, Scott Boris. F***** you too, Scott Boris. F***** you too, Scott Boris. You burn you Jersey You want so though something I? Do to Scott Boris stop my All right excellent work by that guy Will be totally reasonable about this for like 35 games. I know right?

It's like you're there half a season. What are we doing? No, he's carried on to the World Series. No, it's the greatest. No, but this is the stupidity of this. The Steinbrenner's are like, we will not get outbid for this. And Yankee fans, they know what they're fan-based. They know what their customers are.

John Turturro's brother was just swinging a bat at us. He's hitting his palm with a bat. Play that sound again. It felt personal. Not that sound. Go back to the Turturro sound because look, he's wearing a Yankee jacket. I've seen Nick Turturro act, OK?

He does not act this well. Why do you keep doing this to him? Stop picking on Nick Turturro. This is the realest I've ever seen this man. What I'm saying is this is not an act. He's not playing a wrestling character. He's angry Dan Stop picking on Ida torturos brother

Play that sound for me again, please I got two words for you Oh, that's right. You and the horse you rode in on and the Calvary behind you. That's right mother. Yeah I'm taking it personal. We gave you our love. We gave you off heart and soul It wasn't enough you turned your cap around after the World Series. I saw that f***ing move. 700 million, 730. Yeah, it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. Guaranteed years, it wasn't enough. You don't even choose the Dodgers. You don't even choose the Dodgers. Go off Broadway to the Mets. You don't want to be on Broadway. And you don't want to be Judge's guy. You don't want to be Judge's partner? Oh, that's right, judge.

Now it's your team. That's it, let's stick it up his f***ing ass. That's right, let's go out. Let's get burned, we're pregnant. Let's get... I don't give a f***. No!

We're not f***ing around. Take those... Crunchy, whatever those... Oh, that's f***ing messy. F*** them. It is sports fan, there it is. It's great, it's WFAN. It's just insane. Wait, once you get to look, two words for you,

and then it's bleep you. There are the two words, that's enough. We could be done, no, but here's the thing. Here's the thing, it would not stop there, it could not stop there, because when you get stuck right there, two words and it's insufficient, then all of a sudden, I don't know why this is, there's the horse you rode in on.

That made it nine words. Well, but what is that? I don't know that expression, like that's just when I've run out of material, but I really want you to know this. But I don't understand why is there a horse that he rode in on? Now Dan, the interesting thing about that

is he gave us the rare extended version. Usually it's the F you a horse that he rode in on? Now Dan, the interesting thing about that is he gave us the rare extended version. Usually it's the F you and the horse you rode in on. He gave us F you and the horse you rode in on and the cavalry too. And that's the extended version that it's like the, have you ever heard the full version of the national anthem, the second verse? Like it's like that.

Also, I don't recall him riding in on a horse. I think in Yankee history, this would only apply to Wade Boggs. Only person. In Mets history, Yoni Cespides and Noah Sindergaard showed up to spring training on horses one year ago. That's right, Thor. By the way, just a quick correction,

he played 157 games for the Yankees, not 35. He played a full season. We have the origin of this. Please get the origins. I think it was Cespides. I'm seeing New York Times in 1998, they did a deep dive on it and they found it in early 70s novels, The Friends of Eddie Coyle

and No Bugles, No Drums, novels from the early 70s. Which 70s, the 1970s or the 1870s? Yes, 1970s. Wow, really, that recent? No, that's gotta be 1770s. That can't be, the horse I'm riding, I'm not. The New York Times found them in early 1970 books. So I think what's happening is those books,

by the way they sound, sound to be Western books. So it might be a book written about a time where we thought, hey, what would be a cool thing they would say back then? F you and the horse he rode in on. And then it was actually created. It's kind of like. But there's no way, if I tell the people

in our audience right now how old is and the horse he rode in on there's no way that they're gonna say 50 years old They would say early 1900s I know a way that we can find out for sure Greg Cody because if it happened in the 70s then for him that would have been too new He's like what is this newfangled thing they're saying the horse you rode in on back in my day We didn't have horses, right? Or whatever the hell he would go with it. That's the only kind of authority I can think of

who can give us some clarity about that. I'm just shocked at how recent this phrase is. I mean, Jared Leto is older than this saying. No. Yeah, I think Leto was born in 1971. What? He's 50? Yeah.

Jared Leto is 50. Yeah. He's my age. Well, that's the Hollywood cabal, Dan. To start drinking children's blood. Mm-hmm. Put it on the poll, I already do. He has looked better in the last couple of years,

I'll say. Let's vote. Dan? Dan or Leto? 52 in two weeks for Jared Leto. Wow. Hmm, wow. I wonder what David Samson thinks is his best role

We'll get to all that we should ask him. Is this a good move is I want to ask Billy this because of course of course it's a good move to buy the best player and put him in your lineup and You are mortgaging future, but I think this owner is behaving the way that Stu got as a fan as a Torturo as someone who cares about the team how you want your owner to behave which is You will get me the best player no matter the cost because we want to win right now And what the Mets won today, they didn't just beat football yesterday the Mets spent 750 they spent three-quarters of a billion dollars to beat the Yankees they didn't just beat football yesterday the Mets spent seven hundred and fifty

they spent three quarters of a billion dollars to beat the Yankees yesterday and today Stevie Cohen loves to win the press conference yes he had lost Mets fans already once to gots this is your bright new owner and already he'd lost you once were you he spent all the money and then you got mad at him and you stopped caring about his team you wouldn't go to shitty fields for a game. No, he started off great. They had they made it to the postseason, I believe, and then everything kind of went downhill. And last year was a rebuilding year. They made it to the NLCS, a rebuilding year in which they were spending over $300 million in payroll. But this is a great day to be a Mets fan.

You outbid the Yankees. I don't care if it works out or not. I do not care. I don't care what he looks like in 15 years. I don't care what he looks like in 10 years. Today, the Mets won. They beat and outbid the New York Yankees and the Dodgers. And for today and today only, Mets fans could feel really good. I mean, but the thing about the Mets, right,

is that you said their $300 million payroll, a lot of that money was going to players who were on other teams that they got rid of because they signed them to bad contracts. I know. And Bobby Bonilla was still getting paid by the Mets last year. I understand that.

Like they paid Max Scherzer to win a World Series in Texas. Yes, but it's a team that got to the NLCS and they just added one of the best young players in baseball. So let's do it this way. Let's do it this way. Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless.

Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. Before we get to David Sampson, I just think Stevie Cohen wants to win the game before the apocalypse of the economy coming for all of us ends up swallowing all of american currency and stevie cohen says paper money he wants to win right now because again because whatever bitcoin is coming and it's all false rich and they were aware of how is he long lost that ranch and why is he will wander around with the president and so stevie cohen wants to win right now because five years from now when the

dodgers billion dollar deferred makes all the cable companies collapse right now because five years from now when the Dodgers billion dollar deferred makes all the cable companies collapse, there's going to be no sports money anymore. And these contracts are funny money. I don't think any of that is how that works. No? David Sampson. I think there will always be sports money.

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I am positive. He covered this very well. How much of your show did it take up today? Of the 50 minutes of important talking, how much did you discuss just this? About 37 minutes and now it's been 27 minutes sitting here. Thank you for the opportunity to talk on a subject that is worthy of your time that you've butchered. You've butchered it Dan in a way that I guess is unique to you. I mean we gave it 27 minutes.

27 minutes on horses and cavalries. I mean, Totoro. Yeah, Totoro carried us there. Like, it was good acting by him. I think you'd agree. It's the Yankee fans were gonna respond that way, obviously, and that's exactly what baseball wants for today.

Stugat's got it right. There is an issue today. And the issue is that Scott Boris got to reclaim his post as the record holder. The issue is that Steve Cohn handed it to him on a platter and said, Scott, you're forgiven for last year's four players who signed late for not a lot of money.

You got Snell done and now you've got the record away from Nez Otani's agent You got it in years You got it in notional dollars and you got it in average annual value Scott Boris is the record holder and he used Juan Soto and for all you sucker Yankee fans who thought he was gonna be a Yankee or for all you Mets fans who said always a Met because his chauffeur couldn't get into the private room That's a new one this chauffeur couldn't get into the private room. That's a new one this morning.

Give me a break. Boris wanted the record. Soto wanted Boris. It was all meant to be. I want to play some video here of Jeff Passon talking about this with Scott Van Pelt because they're saying that it's not just because the Mets offered five million dollars more and the talk now is but the Yankees were offering 16 years guaranteed so here's

Jeff Passon talking about this with Scott Van Pelt. The Mets weren't that much at a different place Scott than the New York Yankees were. The Yankees had a seven hundred sixty million dollar offer only five million dollars less spread out over 16 years. So it wasn't a huge demonstrable difference. In the end, I think Juan Soto looked at the New York Mets future and looked at the New York Yankees future and believed that the Mets have a better future than the Yankees, which is a wild thing to think, right?

The Yankees have been the most successful franchise in North American professional sports history. They have 27 championships. The New York Mets have been the New York Mets. And so to see the transformation that Steve Cohen has helped make with this franchise over the last four years after he bought it, to turn them from laughing stock into the team that Juan Soto wants to play with because he believes That they are going to have a brighter future Speaks volumes about what he has been able to do since he has bought the team and this I think is just the beginning They are going to spend more money

They are going to continue to have payrolls like this and to spend 765 million to be up potentially at 805 million it seems unfathomable but that is how ultimately the New York Mets got Juan Soto. Samson? First of all when Mike Campton signed a contract he pretended he liked the school system in Colorado when Manny Machado signed the, he pretended he really liked the minor league system of the Padres. Are you joking?

Anyone who's on a network telling you that we looked into the future and we studied it like Zorak or Zolak or whatever the hell his name is and said the Mets have a better future than the Yankees? Scott Zolak? Ben Zolak. Karnak. Come on. What is that? Zol and so Karnak come on. What is that?

So so your reference was not only wrong, but it was from Johnny Carson's age and you got it wrong Zola guess what you gave us He's so enraged there's no way he's gonna be himself today Do you understand how crazy this makes him Samson loses today Boris wins and and he's locked in hell Boris won completely Dan and you put me in this place Where it is hotter than Hades and I'm stuck with a head next to Boris Which this is about as close as I've been to his head wait wait wait oh Much better those horns

That noise happening you got ever Wait, wait, oh, much better. Those horns fit you perfectly. Please don't make that noise when it's happening. You got inside Scott Boris. I guess I would just tell you that Scott Boris had this, and I wanna make sure we don't lose sight of that. It wasn't about the Mets, it wasn't about the Yankees, this was about records. And Soto can give whatever excuse he wants, but the truth is Steve Cohn was not gonna lose out,

and Scott Boris did what he was supposed to do. He took advantage of the fact that Steinbrenner was here, that Stevie Cohn was here, forget the Red Sox, I feel for them, and the Blue Jays, oy vey, and the Dodgers, doesn't even matter, this was all gonna be New York v. New York from the beginning, and the way it was structured, words gonna come out, wait for that.

The way this was structured, the Mets just offered more money by a lot, not five million the way you're describing it. Oh, okay. Well, I was doing the math with the five million because I'm imagining a scenario where Soto's like, you know what, these are close. Oh, I'll stay Yankee.

We were good last year. And Boris is like over my dead body. You're taking a little less. What are the details, Sampson, that are gonna make this a distorted amount of money? That it's being presented one way today, the day that everyone's talking about it and then no one will notice the other part of this which is that that Soto ends up getting

how much more worth out of being with the Mets than the Yankees and were Yankee fans right to be mad at the Steinbrenners for not outbidding the Mets? First of all no now if the Yankees pivot to other players they're actually have a better chance to be better. This is not basketball. One player, even the best player, doesn't guarantee you a World Series. Otani at two million, that helps, that's his money.

But Soto was never gonna take deferrals. And what you're gonna see get released is what the cash flow is of this contract. We know already 75 million out the door upon execution. He's getting a $75 million check as soon as he passes his physical and the contract gets approved by baseball and the union. Did the Yankees offer that type of signing bonus?

I bet you not. Then look at the annual amount of money that he receives each year. Is more of it upfront? Is it spread out in a straight line? Did the Yankees deal have deferrals? There's a lot of details that we'll be able to find out, but all of the reckless speculation that is happening now,

it only makes Boris smile, because he gets to come out with how much Steve Cohn outbid everyone. Samson, how wrong did you get this? When they turned down 440 million from the Nationals, your thought was that was gonna end up becoming how much by when in Boris' control? Like, by how many hundreds of millions were you wrong here?

You have to remember that I'm used to this. This is what Scott Boris does with all of his players. You don't get to sign them before they become free agents. He wouldn't let us sign Jose. He wouldn't let us sign Ozuna he wouldn't let us sign Ozuna, he doesn't like contracts other than for Stephen Strausberg in the middle of a deal when you know the guy can't lift his arm or go to the bathroom

with the proper hand. You know that he'll agree to an extension. With Soto, you bet on yourself. He didn't have him insured, I promise you that, but you bet on yourself, and in this case he won. So tip your cap, you got this this one Scott but the other players in baseball are aware of your tactics and it works sometimes but only for a few of the players for a majority it fails miserably. David I'm fascinated because

if you look at the other major professional sports as they've gone on in time and collected bargaining negotiations their CBAs have gotten more owner friendly they've gotten more restrictive more conservative conservative in that way baseball has it has there ever come been close to getting a salary cap in there or any sort of salary restrictions yeah this was about five minutes of the show this morning I mean and here's why it's important because with the salary cap comes a salary floor and there's about four teams every year that can't reach what a salary floor would be and We went and did a calculation when this was discussed during a CBA Maybe ten years ago and we said we'll agree to a cap

But the floor has to be at a place that we get funded in order to get to the floor Because we can't do it ourselves. And it wasn't just the Marlins. Marlins, Rays, Guardians, Royals, A's, Brewers. We could get to eight teams pretty easily where they would fall under the floor from time to time, and you can't allow that. It doesn't happen in the NFL,

but in baseball it would have. I just so wish, David, that all sports had this, so that I could watch Jerry Jones want to get somebody Like from from somebody he doesn't like from Bob Kraft so that I can just to get him Oh just just because they can because it's all funny money But Dan the crazy thing about it is and I think it works almost across all sports The teams that spend the most money often aren't the best teams It's like when you take those guardrails off,

bad ownership is gonna mess it up anyway. And so that's part of it. When I look at this deal, there's a red flag for me that goes off. But it's the Mets. If the Dodgers did this, I would, oh wow, that's a great pickup. If the Yankees did it.

The Yankees did it, we'd have more faith. The fact that it's the Mets, I know Jeff Passons plugged in and all, but I don't think that signifies a new era in the method said sounds like the same old Mets They pay a guy and turns out he was the wrong guy David your thoughts here on you having to eat it again because Boris continues to play all of your Owners he toys with them like the thing that you want more than anything else, Yankees Mets want the same player.

Well he's so happy right now because he has the ultimate leverage in Steve Cohen. No, but it's not just that though. David, just give me the amount of money that Scott Boris makes with this contract because just him, he gets $35 million for negotiating this, doesn't he get 5%? Yeah, the deal is 5% for him, but don't you worry,

he's got a whole scouting department, he's got all sorts of facilities that make it really good for his players. He invests right back. Yes, he's gotten very rich, and eventually you tip your chapeau to him for doing this. What? But it's owners, it is owners who let him get away with it.

But remember, this is an outlier, folks. Juan Soto, he's a generational player, only comes around once every year. That's the crazy part. Scott Boris, we had a chance to absolutely take away all of his power. He got crushed last year, and you could see him deflating. And what Juan Soto has done, and Blake Snell, too,

they've put him right back. They've repowered him and now he thinks he's the most powerful person in baseball. I can't wait for the press conference because believe you me, like the Blake Snell one, he'll be sitting right up there in the dais. He'll get to address the media and talk about this deal and then he gets to go like the sneeches star belly on the side of my body. He'll go to the Yankees and say, you need Corbin Burns now, don't you?

You need Max Fried now, don't you? And he's peddling all of his players to get overpaid. I'm sickened and lonely. This Boris thing, David, is starting to sound a little personal. I have a question for you, because last year we saw obviously the big Otani deal, now we have the big Juan Soto deal,

but aside from the Otani deal, it was kind of a slow free agency last year, that there weren't players obviously the big Otani deal, now we have the big Juan Soto deal, but aside from the Otani deal, it was kind of a slow free agency last year. There weren't players getting the big contracts that they wanted, they were settling for shorter deals. Is that something you think we're in store for this year as well, after the Soto deal? Well you've seen what happened with Adamas going to the Giants, he got seven years and it looks like owners are willing to spread it out. Why?

You're going to see it different this year. It's because there's a new collective bargaining agreement coming at the end of next season. The negotiation starts. And there's a very real push to put caps on what players can sign. Maximum years in a deal. It'll be hard to get. It'll cause a work stoppage.

But players now want to get signed and owners wanna get them signed before they lose the advantage of big market over small market. So you're seeing a different market this year totally. I have a stolen stat of the day if you want it, Dan. Hmm. This is stolen from Pat's. Stolen one.

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and David Sampson is one of your chief culprits for gaming this system for a while. And then he gets gamed and played by Scott Boris where if you don't have a salary cap, this is what all of, do you know how underpaid Mahomes is? It's gamed and played by Scott Boris where if you don't have a salary cap, this is what all of... Do you know how underpaid Mahomes is? Do you have any idea how underpaid Patrick Mahomes is? Behind Tua.

Behind Trevor Lawrence. I mean, something's off in Kansas City though, right? Stugots. Mahomes. Stugots. Come on. Stugots minor penalty, two minutes for Chief's talk. Amin asked this earlier of you David and I'm wondering, even though it's in the CBA and there's a CBA coming up,

there's no way baseball is ever going to have a salary cap, right? Like why would the Players Association ever agree to that? The horse is out of the barn on that one. Yeah, we've tried for so many years. It's not gonna happen. And the reason is exactly this. The funny part is only a few parts of the union benefit from no salary cap. Are we off the air?

The horse is out of the barn. Billy has been holding on to the horses out of the barn for 10 minutes. You did a chateau thing that we could have latched on to Chateau, not chateau That's a fine Is the horse out of the barn so you can get the hay in the barn? Why is the horse out of the barn?

You don't make hay, I know that Well, not unless it's a show Can you play a song for me? I don't know what is happening right here Okay, what is happening here? I don't know what is happening right here. Okay, what what is happening here? They're there. I don't understand what's happening here. Well, we have a song, Dan. Well, but Sampson is being comforted as he sucks his thumb with Stu Gott's holding him. Like that's what we're doing. In hell. What's got Boris? But we have like on our staff a guy that feels passionately about the the New York Yankees and at a moment's notice, you know,

that I can always get Taylor over here. He created a song. He's heartbroken. I thought that he was working on North Carolina Belichick material. Let's hear Taylor. Do you want to talk to him about that? Like we have to switch gears. Yes, okay.

I do. Just keep him there for a second. I don't like playing his songs. I agree with that one constructive critic at our last Flanagan's party. John Alleroot's song was a banger. Who says that Taylor, Les Taylor is what this show needs. Let's give them Les Taylor. from San Diego A ridiculous price to pay for rental that still lost World Series

in five games I thought you'd wear pinch stripes forever I thought you'd wear pinstripes forever But forever's gone away It's so hard to say goodbye To one so dumb Alright, Taylor sings for a generation to what's owed to us. Taylor sings for a generation.

I gotta salute you, I'm sorry, I do, because this is the perfect ending to all of this. Do you understand that today is a national holiday? We all get to laugh at the Yankees for not having enough money. They've always had the most money, and their fans, the Turturros of the world, think they deserve to beat the Red Sox and the Dodgers and everyone else and they just lost to the Mets and

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