The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Keep It On Green

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

Today's Cast: Dan, Stu, Chris, Lucy, Billy, Tony, Jess. Our quest to find Panthers fans continues as we debut Jeremy Tache and the Elusive Panthers' Fan. Jeremy is joining us from the Everglades to tr...y and talk to anybody that is excited about the Panthers and trust us, the excitement is palpable. Before we get our finger on the pulse, we discuss tonight's Game 3 of the NBA Finals and how it could impact Jayson Tatum's legacy. Also, Kristaps Porzingis has a rare injury that Stugotz miraculously can pronounce and it could have a major impact on the series. Dan's dentist story from yesterday has been called into question and the discussion of it leads to the crew sharing some of their worst experiences at the dentist. What happened to Tupac? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Stugats, you know me well enough to know that I have great discomfort with the responsibilities of leadership. I don't like punishing people, demoting people, firing people. That is not something I'm interested in. But, unfortunately, Tony
Starting point is 00:00:42 has failed in his quest outside of these doors to find a Florida Panther fan, and so he has now been demoted on this assignment because he went out there twice. Dan, you can't demote me from that. You can. The issue is this, I won't go past Broward, right? Like Miami-Dade line, I won't go north of that. Okay, well you can say, you can do the optics of that
Starting point is 00:01:04 and say it's not a demotion if you want but now Jeremy has taken that job from you he has gotten camera crew and he want he's saying he's a sideline reporter he's got experience getting people to talk about stuff whether they want to or not Lucy has done some of this she kid does she can do crowd work but Jeremy has thundered in and said, I bet I could find a Florida Panthers fan somewhere in South Florida. Billy, why are you making faces?
Starting point is 00:01:30 What is behind you? It's Jeremy getting promoted to take the job of- To Indiana Jones? Well, he's going on a search for the elusive Panther fan. He's a real go-getter, this Jeremy. He really is. I mean, it's annoying. No one likes that guy.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Can he stay? This is an interesting spot, though, because Tony, say what you want about him, but he can kinda go with the punches out there. Whereas Jeremy, Jeremy is more of like a polished broadcaster. So I actually think, you know, if people don't give him the answers he wants, if he can't find anyone,
Starting point is 00:02:00 I could see Jeremy panicking more than Tony does out there. He can't do worse in terms of the goal of finding a Panther fan than Tony did. But it was funny when Tony did it. You guys must not watch Ballysports, because Jeremy does this every home Miami he gets. Right now no one can, because they're in contract disputes. I don't think it's on anywhere.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Jeremy, we will check in with him at various points during the show today. Will we be doing so in the first segment to see if in the first segment he can embarrass Tony by finding a Panther fan immediately? We're efforting to have him join late in this first segment. Okay, thank you for doing that. It's a long drive he had to make.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It's also 9 a.m., I don't think the mall is open. Well, I don't know where he's going. No, the mall walkers are probably there. The mall is open. Like. Well I don't know where he's going. No the mall walkers are probably there. The mall is open. Whichever mall he is at. So the goal and like this is a win if we talk Panthers. It is a win if Jeremy can find a Panther fan while we're on live which is the rope we're walking on
Starting point is 00:03:02 without a safety net each time. Tony has failed twice. We need to, we've pulled the goalie. We've pulled the goalie. It on without a safety net each time. Tony has failed twice. We've pulled the goalie. We've pulled the goalie. It's not an empty net. We've got a new goalie, and we'll see if Jeremy has any more success
Starting point is 00:03:12 than Tony did. I did like what Tony did though, where I demoted him. He said, you can't demote me. Even as he's been replaced. You just told me, like, hey, can you go to Broward? And I was like, absolutely not. You can send Jeremy, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:03:24 That's not how that went. I demoted you. We'll see. And I wasn't asking for your permission. You weren't here yesterday. And Jeremy said he was doing it. And that's how it happened. On schedule.
Starting point is 00:03:40 The thing that I wanted to talk to you guys about, though, tonight, though, because I am... generally someone who does uh... previews of games but tonight's i find fascinating not because it's about tonight's to guess we get caught up so much in the micro of that game that moment and we miss all the legacy in history stuff that's happening right in front of us kawaii leonard is golden forever because he won one we all saw him do it by himself or felt like by himself didn't matter san antonio
Starting point is 00:04:13 that one is why he's golden forever he did it by himself dirt novitsky same thing golden for ever the last fifteen years of basketball the macro of tonight is what I want to talk about, Stugatz, because it's fascinating to me. Not just how the sport has changed, but how the power has changed and how we cover it has changed because we're obsessed with the executives. So right now, we're doing a lot of talking about the architecture of the celtics instead of the athleticism of the celtics you can make the finals mvp a combination of joe cronin pat riley danny angel and brad stevens because all of those things had to happen
Starting point is 00:04:57 danny angel to fail trading those draft picks get criticized for years for brad stevens to reserve to to sort of notice i don't want to be a middle manager i want to be spolster i don't want to be tito frank on that i want to be feel that steam i want to be pat rightly for that to happen they had to lose game seven last year cause jason tatum sprained his ankle the ask in this series from an america that wants to be impressed by Tatum is
Starting point is 00:05:26 be Mamba be Michael. Game seven sprains his ankle the whole foundation of what they were doing goes under. They change it. How do they get to the finals this year? Work load management doesn't work for anyone. Kauai's hurt, Embiid's hurt, Giannis is hurt, Brunson is hurt, Jimmy Butler is hurt. Nobody can get to the finish line except them. They're healthy. But now they've got an injury that made us all doctors.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And it's not just an injury, Stugat. It's an injury to a seven foot four dude who shoots from 30 feet. Yep. Like what is that? A freak. What is that? That didn't exist 15 years ago. It did not. No, he's an exceptional player. He's a great talent. He's supposed to be a generational player. The problem is he's always hurt. He has not been a generational player. He was supposed be but buddy is what lamar odum was back when we won championships a more normal way the
Starting point is 00:06:30 fourth best player on a team and if lamar odum's your fourth best player you win a championship and if porzingis is your fourth best player you win a championship but what if tonight you needed from the three because porzingis being injured makes them a team that three out of four times against a busted up pacer's team had a ninety percent probability of losing games late because they're not that good without porzingis they're smaller without porzingis it's a big night for you al horford you say he can win
Starting point is 00:07:01 championships this is a big sequence for you with Al Horford. It's a big spot for Al. I'm not worried about Al. He's a veteran. He knows how to handle these situations. It's why Al Horford is on the team in the event that Chris stops, Port Zingas goes down because he always goes down. But I think what you're saying as it relates to Tatum is a great point. We didn't see what we wanted to see because the team was overwhelming games one and game two. But now game three on the road going to Dallas.
Starting point is 00:07:27 This is when superstars shine. This is when a guy like Jason Tatum should go out and the series give you a 40 something points and and the Maverick season and I'm interested to see if he could do that tonight. I'm not certain he has to do it tonight, but the most likely spot in which he would have to do it is tonight game three on the road just for the people just waking up just learning about this porzingis injury Stu gots. Can he would have to do it is tonight, game three on the road. Just for the people just waking up, just learning about this
Starting point is 00:07:47 porzingis injury, Stu Gatz, can you let them know what it is? Sure. You want me to just to do the injury? Yeah, just tell us the injury. Okay. Before he does this, does anyone else want to take a crack at it? Because he's reading from something. Do the rest of you, it's a rare condition that is known medically as his entire body is falling apart in pieces. And something got hurt before and this isn't the thing that
Starting point is 00:08:12 got hurt before, so now he's got some super rare thing that like 32 people in the history of medicine have. It's a torn medial retinocolum allowing dislocation of the posterior tibialis tendon, the PTT. And which body part is that? I believe it's the arm. It's the leg, what else do you have there? That's all I have, I mean, TMM, PTT. Thing is the way he fell too just looked like he fell. Like it wasn't like, oh, his knee went this way, his ankle went that way, it's the way he fell too, just looked like he fell.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Like it wasn't like, oh, his knee went this way, his ankle went that way, something happened. Like he just kind of fell and then like fell over. And I was like, oh, okay, of course, it's the rectal posterior pinwheel. Posterior tibolus tendon, yeah. That's what it is. Of the planner's fasciitis.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Remember last week Mike asked, hey, is porzingis hurt? And I said, good question. You could ask that on any given night or any given morning and you have a 50% chance of being right. I mean, is Porzingis hurt? And I said, good question. You could ask that on any given night or any given morning, and you have a 50% chance of being right. I mean, the guy's always hurt. Again, 7'4 shoots from 30 feet.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Human body being tested to its limits by the entire sport, given that no one can stay healthy, and the guy they have to beat tonight, hey, they just reported this the other day, as if it were nothing. Game two, Luca had to take a pain killing shot that was meant to mute the screaming of his body That's trying to alert him something's terribly wrong right get in shape. I mean do me a favor I'm tired of hearing about Luke and how injured he is elbow shoulder knees toes. I mean the whole deal enough
Starting point is 00:09:39 I don't care. I don't want to hear about it. Yeah, triple double He's played 40 minutes every single night Kyrie give him more someone help him out. I don't want to hear about it. He had a triple double. He's played 40 minutes every single night. Kyrie, give him more. Someone help him out. I don't want to hear about Luca, Dan, I know. He's playing 40 minutes every night offensively. He is not playing 40 minutes every night defensively. Everyone is blowing right past him. Well, Tatum certainly is.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Everyone. I know. In the history of the league, they had some stat the other day. I don't know if this is official or not. No one in a game has ever been blown by more than Luca. I don't know if it's an official Elias NBA stat, but I saw the game. I saw it enough to know, wow, he's not doing anything out there defensively.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Dan, did you see the compilation of him, like obviously flat-footed on defense, letting people lay him the whole deal? My favorite part of the compilation was he was in the Wrong spot and then Derek Jones jr Pushes him from behind to try to get back on the on-ball defense. It was incredible Tatum had 29 drives in game two the most in his career And he only made six shots So he got to the rim they won. Okay. All right for now He was dishing out times. What are you doing? What are you doing to the rim. They won. I mean, 2-0. All right. For now, he was dishing out times.
Starting point is 00:10:46 What are you doing? What are you doing to the Celtics? Like, what are you doing with poor Zingus? You're saying the Celtics, it feels like you're saying the Celtics don't have a shot without poor Zingus. I mean, ridiculous. Why are you making it that extreme? Not saying that at all.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Not saying that at all. You're making a big deal about Kristoff's poor Zingus. I mean, who cares? He's out. I'll miss a game or two and the South Dakota will still win this series. Wait a minute. You're the guy, every trading deadline, someone trades for George Hill, and you tell me that's the missing piece.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I've been watching that team all season. When he plays, they win all their games by double digits. When he doesn't, they struggle against the Pacers. Yeah, but still win most of their games. I mean, that's all I'm saying. Okay, but they're playing a team that's better than the Pacers. Yeah, but still win most of their games. I mean, that's all I'm saying Okay, but they're playing a team that's better than the Pacers And again, I don't want to get caught up in the minutiae of you that you want to do which is who will win tonight I want to examine this is a historic franchise. They've won once this century
Starting point is 00:11:37 I want to examine all the things that had to happen for them to arrive right now uniquely in a place where all of us are doctors saying that porzegas can walk in a corridor and therefore he can play an NBA game tonight as a seven foot four person making shots from 30 feet with an injury none of us understand and an injury doctors don't understand because like very few people have ever had it not recently ever Like we don't even know how to break it down and we'll gonna analyze the game
Starting point is 00:12:12 But how flimsy is all of it is what I'm asking you how flimsy is the architecture and everything else around the building of teams when? This only happens the only reason that the Celtics Get to this place is because they decided robert williams his body can't hold up get out of here broadening your art last piece your body can hold up get out of here let's trade for a guy that metal arts basketball expert says is a corpse and see if he can hold up and he does let's let's trade for a guy that Mero has told us every time he's on
Starting point is 00:12:48 Porzingis is made of porcelain. You cannot trust that when he was drafted none of us trusted that because we said that body cannot hold up and The whole thing Stu gots is held together when I ask you when I say to you. I'd like to see Tatum tested This feels like a test. It does. Yeah doing Doing it without how Poizenga spreads the floor for you and how he blocks shots to make you the number one defense on the other end when Tatum, you're not that good at defense. You're not playing a lot more defense than Luca is out there. Jalen Brown plays defense. I'm not doing anything to the Celtics other than asking you when they've arrived at champion, are you paying attention to all the things that had to happen over the last 15 years for Brad
Starting point is 00:13:33 Stevens to get to be the genius and how flimsy it all is when it's all held up by Jason Tatum's ankle in game seven last year and it all needs to get blown up to get to poor Zenga so he can get hurt because that team what it's had better than anyone in the sport in these playoffs is health well health to four guys or five guys if you include big al they haven't lost one of their top two guys the way every other team they're playing against has lost one of their top two guys well i mean dallas has luca and Kyrie. They're intact. I mean, Luca might be banged up. I don't want to hear about it, but they are intact.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But you have to beat them tonight now. Dallas has to beat them tonight. It's a must-win game. I'm saying to you, if you're Boston and you're playing for the first time against a team that is whole when you're not, that becomes an actual test of your championship medal. Yeah, but I don't understand what you're not. Right. That becomes an actual test of your championship medal. Yeah, but I don't understand what you're doing here,
Starting point is 00:14:27 because in actuality, they don't have to win tonight. The team that has to win tonight is Dallas. Jason Tatum, if you say he has to play great tonight, fine. It still might mean a loss for the Celtics. But yes, this is a test for Tatum. And I'm interested to see if he can pass that test. Will he have a big night on the road, game three, the series it's gonna be interesting to see but they don't have to win tonight agreed to got i don't want to get stuck
Starting point is 00:14:51 in what happened when what happens tonight i'm showing you the reason that the game means something in the rest of the series means something historically for how it is that we remember these people because when you win once and you're the reason for winning once Jason Tatum's entire story could change tonight if he puts up 50s to God's the entire story around Tatum now no one will remember the first two games and all the bullshit we were talking about is he better than Jalen? I'm talking about the next 10 years of how you can view Tatum are on display over the next five games, but we need to see him tested.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You're talking about stamping his legacy, having a big game of the NBA finals. I'm just telling you, you might be applying that to yourself. I'm telling you, if the Celtics win this and they sweep and Tatum doesn't have the game that we all want to see from him, I'll still remember him as a great player. I'll still look back and say, wow, Jason Tatum and that team had a great season. I will, personally. If others don't, I don't know what to tell you. I mean, it seems like you're not going to do that. It's not
Starting point is 00:16:01 about me, Stugats. It's about whether or not a series can be made interesting to the consumer in a way that makes you remember these games beyond a team just won a championship. You rarely get to understand the history you're living while you're in it, while you're in the middle of it. And we've been building for 15 years to this night of changed basketball, positionless basketball,
Starting point is 00:16:28 and a team winning in a way that feels foreign to us. Because if they win, they will not be winning the way Jokic did. The way Jokic won was we just watched the evolution of, oh, that's an all-time great. That happened last year. It wouldn't have been the way we would have appraised him before what we just watched him do. No, if they win, this will be kind of an old school win
Starting point is 00:16:54 for this team. This is a team that's gotten close. They have failed. They've gotten close. They have failed. They've retooled. They've tried again. Stevens went from coach to GM.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yes, the storyline of this team is interesting and it will be remembered differently, much like the Bulls teams in the 80s and some of those teams where they had to climb and eventually after eight, nine years, they finally got to the mountaintop. The Dan LeBattard Show with Stu Gotz is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah. Enjoy, enjoy a long and fruitful run, Dan. What was that voice? A Celtics fan That was a Celtics fan. Well, it was me. Stugats It's amazing to see the mask pulled off and to see you so clearly You were in such good disguise and I didn't know it was you But then it's a me a Celtics fan. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. The question I have for you guys is, where does Missoula kind of fit into this puzzle, right?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Obviously, Brad Stevens couldn't do it as a coach, moved up to the front office. Now Missoula has this weird position where is all the credit to Brad Stevens. He's got a great team, but he's actually bringing them together and they've had a very good season and hopefully, you know, for them gonna win a title. Like where does he get put in all this? Forgotten.
Starting point is 00:19:16 What I'm hearing from you guys is that this poor Zingus injury is good for Tatum. Not in the macro. It's an opportunity for Tatum is what Dan is saying. We're not gonna give him full credit. Like if poor Zingus is there and he doesn't Dan is saying. Because we're not gonna give him full credit. Like if Porzingis is there and he doesn't have to be great, we're not gonna give him the credit that he maybe deserves. But if Porzingis is out,
Starting point is 00:19:31 now we're gonna give him the credit if he dominates. What is good for Tatum is everyone's healthy, he doesn't have to do much, and there's never any heavy lifting, so we don't actually get to see whether all the numbers that Haberstrow has from the season of him being not very good in important situations because he's always taking twenty foot fadeaways that he's missing an important
Starting point is 00:19:48 situation that he has an opportunity here to be something that of sports fans recognize in basketball as opposed to the unsatisfying uh... nature of just winning the championship in four games and us being able to say forever uh... you beat a four-part four seed beat a hurt four seed and a hurt five seed and a hurt six seed and a hurt eight seed in order to win the championship.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I understand what you're saying. We all want them to be pushed. We want this team to be pushed and Dallas has an opportunity to push this team if they can win and get it to two, one in the series. I don't know what we're doing with Tatum here. Like we have set the expectations so high that this guy who drove 29 times
Starting point is 00:20:26 to the basket last game the most in his career, he's doing the things we've criticized him for not doing. He's getting to the rim. He's creating opportunities for other players. This is a guy averaging 17 points, 10 rebounds, 9 assists in the series, and we're saying he's not doing enough or he hasn't had a moment that we all want to remember. We are putting the expectations where you put him for Durant because you compared him to Durant. I did. Well listen, he's about to get a ring that's one more than KD.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But that's what we're doing. We're putting the expectations on him, be the best player on the best team. The expectations that every best player on every best team that wins a championship or competes for one gets. And when they go six for 22, Kobe did that in a game seven, went six for 22, had 15 rebounds, went six for 24, had 15 rebounds, and our test bailed him out at the end. No one cares or remembers. It's just titles for Kobe because he won so many before that. Tatum has won none.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yes, but when I think back to this team, I understand that, Dan. I get what you're saying. When I think back to this team, whether he has that night or not, whether he has that performance or not, I'll still think back 10 years from now. Great team led by Jason Tatum. I will. Team that got lucky. It feels like what the narrative is going to be. No one's going to remember it that way. They're going to remember what Stu Gotts did. If he ends up being a great player, you're like, yeah, he had a great series. They won a championship. You guys don't remember the path that any championship team from 10 years ago took to win that championship. You simply don't.
Starting point is 00:21:52 The other day McLovin was on and he was saying, I don't remember who it is that the Celtics beat in 2008 to get to the championship. You just forget those things. You just remember that they won the championship. In this particular case over the 15 years, Billy, we do remember, because San Antonio got all manner of pissed off at the way that they lost the year before on the Ray Allen shot and we all
Starting point is 00:22:11 remember how they played some of the most beautiful basketball any of us have ever seen to end LeBron in Miami. That's what happened ten years ago. That's how San Antonio got there. And the air conditioning game Dan when they turn off the air condition LeBron was cramping in the carry room locker room. Yeah, but you as a fan remember those things to discredit the teams that you don't like winning. Exactly right. Like those are the only, like Mike Ryan will remember who the Celtics beat to win the championship, but no one else will because no one will care. After they win the championship, all you, five years from now, if the Celtics win in two games from
Starting point is 00:22:42 now or three games, whatever it may be, five, seven years from now, well no, if they lose a game they'll be free. I'll tell you, Halliburton was hurt, and it was a tough sweep. You're not gonna remember that seven years from now, you're just gonna remember that the Celtics won the championship. Are the allergies acting up again?
Starting point is 00:22:56 This conversation's spicy, it made me sneeze. Jeremy is joining us from somewhere near the parking lot, the spacious parking lot. It is the arena where the Stanley Cup trophy might be in a few days. Jeremy, what can you tell us about what you're doing and how you're doing it today? Hey, Dan, the energy is incredible here. As you can see at Sawgrass Mills Mall across the street from the Amaranth Bank Arena, the people have been piling in by the dozens to celebrate the ice cats. at Sawgrass Mills Mall across the street from the Amaranth Bank Arena. The people have been piling in by the dozens to celebrate the ice cats. We're going today
Starting point is 00:23:30 to find some Panthers fans. Tony did an amazing job this week trying to find some Panthers fans in Miami. It's our job now here in Broward County. I mean the cars are just moving through. They might as well be a parade today as people celebrate the Panthers being up to nothing. All right, it doesn't seem like that mall is open. The Texas Day Brazil makes my mouth water from here just seeing it behind you. There don't seem to... Me too, just keep it on green.
Starting point is 00:23:54 There don't seem... I've got the meat sweats just sitting here watching you. There don't appear to be any human... They have the humidity sweats. Can you see on this camera just how much fog there is from how humid it is out here? I've been sweating all morning. It's really it's gonna be gross. Can we see the arena from there? Like are you like where's the arena? Yeah here actually if we if we turn you around I'm coming down here You could see just over yonder
Starting point is 00:24:21 The Amarant Bank Arena the barn is right over there. And let me tell you, I've seen people all day taking shots this morning already, so excited about what's going to happen, not there, but in Canada in the next 48 hours. I feel the energy. Yep. So do I. Jump in the lake. That's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Is that a lake or is that just flooding? You know, honestly, I'm not sure. I see, if you could see right there, I mean, just a beautiful flamingo right there. Go ask the flamingo. Beautiful Broward County flamingos that we always see. Not a flamingo, Jeremy. That is inaccurate reporting.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Flamingo? It's not an any- How would a flamingo look like? The energy is palpable. All right, well check behind. You can feel it everywhere you go. The energy is amazing. We'll find another spot, right? It may be in the Everglades. We'll check everywhere you go. All right. The energy is amazing We'll find another spot right maybe in the Everglades. All right, so far. Okay, we will check back in with you Hopefully it'll be more successful than that. It doesn't seem like there's anybody awake where you are told you guys. He's a pro. I mean come on
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Starting point is 00:26:36 but this Stugatz, my partner enlivened by a sportsman. We're having sex baby! And Joe Mauer, yes, like this is the best version of him. What? Stugatz! No, you are. Yeah. Sex baby! And Joe Mauer, yes! Like this is the best version of him. What? Stugats! No, you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:49 The, the, the, stu- Feels good. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats! We will see what Lucy's reaction is to this because she was not here yesterday but someone who listens to the show is writing in and they say I'm calling total bullshit on Dan's dentist story. That's made up for content. Next thing you know he's going to tell us a toddler walking down the street asked him why isn't there peace on earth if we're all human? The dentist story Lucy, and it's absolutely 100% true,
Starting point is 00:27:32 is that I have found a wonderful great new dentist and it is a spa like service. And the last time I was there as soon as we started, it started with you're not a biden guy are you and uh... and then it went down a a dark hole of right wing podcast and conspiracy theories that uh... ended with her telling me among other things there are great many details that princess die michael jackson and someone else wasn't dead all jfk junior this is a woman yes uh... uh... no yes that's not good for us shows a few rogan
Starting point is 00:28:07 uh... it is uh... it is uh... it was a hispanic woman and this is not uncommon in south florida it's all over the place in a way that is super confusing to me and and disorienting but the question i was asking everybody is what do you do when that situation once the utensils are already like we had started and that's where the conversation started and The only thing I could muster was asking the follow-up. I said, you know crazy times Crazy times are that a good one. Yeah, just crazy times. I give it away too much. I don't I don't trust anybody I don't I don't believe in anybody everybody everybody's crazy
Starting point is 00:28:46 And I also said and what about Tupac and there was no opinion on whether there was no information on that Hmm you should have bitter finger Really yeah, just gone for it you say oops slipped accident and hard just a little just a little nibble So cannibalism or not? No, you're not like... You're sending a message. Yeah. I think to be a cannibal you have to actually digest and process.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah, it's gotta swallow. Just a little nibble. And secrete it. Nothing too much. Just like a little like, hey, shut your mouth respectfully. Yeah. But what if she had a utensil, like a tool in there and he bites the finger and then the little spinny thing, like then cuts his tongue in half. Well just don't bite her
Starting point is 00:29:27 finger with a tool in your mouth. Yeah. Just wait for the right moment. I had a dentist situation it wasn't quite this bad Dan but it was pretty bad where last time I was there and they were like doing the teeth cleaning all of the water and like the spray from my teeth was coming back directly onto my face like getting in my eyes and no I didn't have glasses on, and I read, Billy, you'll appreciate this. I read once that like, there's like bacteria in your teeth that if it gets in your bloodstream and you swallow it,
Starting point is 00:29:53 then you could die, and it's really gross and bad for you. I appreciate that. Thank you, and I thought about you while this was happening, and I was like, I feel like Billy would have been like, hey, stop spraying tooth water in my eyes, but I didn't do that, I didn't know what to do. Maybe I should have bit her finger. I have one of the wildest dentist stories.
Starting point is 00:30:08 So I had a pretty large cavity that they had to fill. And I had just moved to California, it was my first time going to this dentist. And they were like, hey, we're gonna use a 3D printer to fill this. And I said, okay, great, great technology. And so the lady is getting ready to put it in my mouth and she dropped it down my shirt.
Starting point is 00:30:27 So there was just like a tooth in my bra. And I was like, oh man, and she was looking for it. I was like, lady, it's in my shirt. And I don't think we can use it anymore. She's like, yeah, we can't do that. So I had to sit there and wait another 45 minutes and then when she left, I had to take the tooth out of my bra.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I hate it when that happens to me, the tooth ends up in my bra. Dentists die earlier than the rest of us, do they not? Because of all of the mouth illnesses that there are, when Jessica says you can die from some spritz in your eye, I believe that, I believe the suicide rate among dentists. Dental hygienists, yeah. I've heard the suicide rate thing,
Starting point is 00:31:02 I haven't heard the death, I don't think it's mouth water though. This is news to me. I believe that so, you can look it up for me, but also what Tony says is so, this is something I learned with this new fangled modern dentistry. Yes, goggles prevent all of that because it was a show, a giant show
Starting point is 00:31:19 of water all over the place, but none in my eyes because I was wearing goggles and watching the television that was on the roof. Amazing. On the ceiling. You take the good with the bad, but none in my eyes because I was wearing goggles and watching the television that was on the roof. Amazing. On the ceiling. You take the good with the bad and you gotta make it out. But it's never something you wanna watch.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Well, what's funny about that is that I was scanning through the channels while trying not to listen to all the right wing podcast recommendations I was getting and I settled on the mechanic with commercials with Jason Statham. Oh, okay. Good flick. Well, one time he asked me if I wanted, so when I was doing orthodontics in my teens,
Starting point is 00:31:50 they would be like, what do you wanna watch? And I'd put something on, and it was usually like, they were specialized for children. They wanted you to be occupied while they were cranking the shit in your teeth. But the dentist rarely does that. I went to a dentist recently, and they asked what do you wanna watch? And I said, a dentist recently and they asked, what do you want to watch?
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I said, drive to survive. And then he ended up watching drive to survive while he was drilling inside my mouth, which I will never do that again. I have a Google AI answer for your question about dentists and this answers all over the place. According to a study of dentists in Tokyo, the overall mortality rate for dentists
Starting point is 00:32:22 was similar to the general population, which is 100%, but they had a higher risk of esophagus and colon cancers and a lower risk of heart disease and pneumonia. However, the study also estimated that a 25-year-old dentist's life expectancy was 51.26 years, which is slightly lower than the general population's life expectancy of 76.67 years at birth.
Starting point is 00:32:45 What? I don't know how you don't get pneumonia if you're a dentist or heart disease. It doesn't seem worth it. Google AI says that's the case. It seems years seems a lot younger than 70 years. That's what I thought too, and then what I think you gotta do
Starting point is 00:32:57 is add the 51.26 to the 25 that they already are. Because 51.26 is more than slightly lower than 76.67, but Google AI says that according to dentists in Tokyo, this is the case. Okay, I'm glad that we're up to the minute. I like dentist stories. I'm glad we're, thank you. Hard stop.
Starting point is 00:33:17 It was important that you get that right in there, right when you did. I appreciate you getting us the most up toto-date information from Japan on whether or not Dentists die earlier. They're a day ahead of us. So put it on the pole, please at LeBow tard show juju at LeBow tard show Do you think dentists die earlier than other occupations? You're making this seem like it's some sort of spot I'm just wondering does the dentist have like old does your dentist your new dentist have old-school tools like what is going on? Everything is super modern. I just I just realized that I was Dealing with dentistry that was sort of from the
Starting point is 00:33:54 1970s because I'd had an old-fashioned dentist and it was perfectly serviceable But now I have all the modern amenities, which is why I put the question in front of you that I did What do you do if the person either performing surgery on you or dentistry is uh... vocally uh... opposed to you on almost every principle lucy's reaction lucy your everyone here backed away and just gave in to just uh... let give me a dental experience i don't care uh... what the politics of anyone involved are just give me a dental experience. I don't care what the politics of anyone involved are just give me a dental experience That is better than mine. I'll just shut my I'll open my mouth and I'll keep quiet
Starting point is 00:34:31 What yes, I don't know what I'm really lost right now everyone here You reacted violently by nibbling on a dental finger. That's not violent. Just a little no Some people like that. Well, but then wait a minute, then how am I discouraging the behavior if I'm nibbling on the finger of a dentist who likes that? I would have enabled the behavior, honestly. I would have asked so many follow-ups.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Really, tell me more. Who else is alive? Like, what's this now? You'd be giving the dentist what they want, your idea. Thank you, it's true that. I wanna ask to see your degree. Wow.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Quick Jeremy update, he's been kicked out of the Sawgrass Mall, so he's changing locations. Really? Security kicked him out? Yeah, Tony never got kicked out of it. Cause he went from where he was, he was gonna walk into the mall to get us, try to find people, cause I think it opens at nine,
Starting point is 00:35:19 but he got kicked out. How little you remember about the Tony updates, he did get kicked out of Bayside, they told him he had to have a license to film there, and he got kicked out. And then what remember about the Tony updates. He did get kicked out of Bayside. They told him he had to have a license to film there and he got kicked out. And then what do we do? We made it happen, Jack. Exactly right.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Well, that's what Jeremy's gonna do. He's gonna make it happen. Tony should have got, or Jeremy should have got into the water. Water's free. You can't kick anyone out of water. Let me explain to you what's going on with Billy and Tony right now,
Starting point is 00:35:38 because usually Billy is opposed to anything Tony does, but because you're now on Tony and demoting him, Billy is now on team Tony. He wants to criticize Tony all to himself. He wants that lane all to himself, but now you've joined him and Billy wants no part of it anymore. I am not criticizing Tony. I simply demoted him for not finding a Panther fan and now Jeremy is on the hunt to find a Panther fan that we can time to interview on the show
Starting point is 00:36:04 live and bring the audience the joys of celebrating the Stanley Cup final with us he will find a panther fan today one of them is Charles Barkley and I wanted to ask you about something that happened to him the other day because I I think this is generational approaching Charles Barkley and screaming at him as a young person for your content that he has no rings and getting very close to him and being aggressive in a Luca jersey. I shouldn't say that it's never happened to Barkley because he told us the story. It happens all the time to Barkley. He told us the story that the only regret he has about throwing someone through a plate class window he told the
Starting point is 00:36:47 judge this is that they weren't on the second floor but it seems like that's happening more than it's ever happened because somebody wants the content of the famous person's vapors and i'm going to challenge this person publicly do i have it wrong is it is there a coarsening that dehumanizes people such that you will go for your moment and take whatever the consequences are, even if it's uncommonly disrespectful to do that to a Hall of Famer to their face?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Like there's not bravery in it. It's super disrespectful but I don't actually know if it's more common now because Barkley has plenty of haters so I'm asking you guys the question do you think there's something polluted in the air that would make it more just make it easier to be disrespectful to somebody publicly that you would never be disrespectful to well Well, you can become famous from it and you're safer because you're videoing it. So it's like, what are they gonna attack you on your phone? And it's on record.
Starting point is 00:37:51 It's just- Throw me through a window, I dare you. It couldn't have happened. Like I'm sure there were people talking shit to Barkley in the 90s, but it has to be like 10 times the amount today. There's monetization with it too. Like you can make money off being an asshole online and that becomes your whole bit then you grow a following. It's kind of like a similar thing to like the crazy like super extreme right-wing influencers. You're like you're rage-baiting. Like that's all what that
Starting point is 00:38:15 is. It's just it's all like for show and it's all for followers and it's all for money. Barclay's been getting that chant outside of every arena that he's in I'm just not used to somebody doing it to his face because there's danger in doing it to his face because he's there whether he's 60 or Not he says there's money also. That's what we're saying before phone opportunity before phones You do it from like 50 feet away like hey zero rings And now you can the safety of your phone I can get right up in your face. I Wouldn't enjoy that very much. And if I were Charles Barkley,
Starting point is 00:38:50 the idea that I perpetually have to restrain myself in the face of disrespect, because the way that this man behaved when faced with disrespect in a bar before is he'll throw you through a plate glass window. But I think we've seen viral clips of Barclay literally just telling, hey, go bleep yourself.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Like Barclay more than anyone can get away with just like giving it back to somebody, whereas other celebrities are more conscious and don't wanna have those interactions. Barclay's the one, like I've seen many videos of him literally telling someone to f*** off. But now you're going for throw me through a window, right? I mean, you want that, you monet monetize that double monetization. Thank you
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