The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Killing Malik Nabers

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Today's Cast: Mike, Amin, Billy, Tony, Roy, Jeremy. That Malik Nabers guy is really good, huh? Amin was extremely impressed with the Giants' rookie receiver last night, but as a long-scarred Giants fa...n, he predicted exactly how things would end. Then, the A's are leaving Oakland and while we're all sad about, Rickey Henderson says he can't be. And why is everyone in the NFL getting hurt so much? Plus, there are just too many flags in the NFL these days, Mike has an update on some familiar voices in the Vince McMahon documentary, Mike sends Amin the worst reels on Instagram, and Billy wants to make the Titanic of kid movies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:20 Jersey City, New Jersey, please drink responsibly. This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. So I'm watching Cowboys Giants last night. And Malik Neigh Nabors is amazing. Incredible player, incredible talent. Giants hit on one for sure.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But I found myself turning into Jon Taffer because I was yelling at Dave Ball. I said, you're gonna freaking kill this kid. This is before the last play where he gets concussed and he had to be taken out. But even before that I was, you're gonna freaking kill this kid. This is before the last play where he gets concussed and he had to be taken out. But even before that, you're gonna kill him. They targeted him eight billion times across the middle. I was just like, there's no way he's gonna last. What was it, 15 targets?
Starting point is 00:02:17 12 catches on 15 targets? I had a hot take and I recorded something for DraftKings where I recorded it before this game. And my hot take, and this is gonna offend some Dolphin fans in particular, but I think Malik Neighbors is already the second best wide receiver in the NFL. Oh, we were talking about that yesterday,
Starting point is 00:02:34 about how quickly he's ascended to that conversation. Behind Tyreek? No, behind Justin Jefferson. But that is certainly wide receiver you. It's crazy, the amount of, the guys that you can take from that program at LSU, drop in and they immediately are elite. That's usually, historically when I was growing up,
Starting point is 00:02:56 wide receivers really came into their own year three. LSU guys, year one, they're already like Pro Bowl status. It's nuts. You know, it's weird, it's different administrations too. But they keep churning them out. I don't know what it is. Is he from Louisiana? Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Are these guys from Louisiana? Part of it is, it's cyclical when it comes to college recruiting. A big reason why Jeremiah Smith is playing in Scarlet and Gray this year is because Orion Day and Ohio State have a program where, hey, we put wide receivers in the NFL. If you're a up and coming wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:03:27 if you're a highly touted recruit, you look at Justin Jefferson, Odell Beckham, Chase, you just look at the roster that they have put together recently in the NFL and you think, well, if my goal is ultimately, like anybody, I go to college to prepare myself for my pro career, for whatever reason, if I go to this program I'm part of an elite group that knows how to get there that position developed better than anyone else in the name
Starting point is 00:03:52 But but again and by the way, Jamar chase is another name on that list. Yeah. Yeah mention them also. Okay the Incredible that's what happens people are talking to your sister Marches and March Chase. Oh my god. Okay, I'm just trying to help you Oh, thank you. I'm telling you where they're from. I'm giving you information. Yes. All right. Thank you. Jarvis Landry too, Juice. Mm-hmm And they're all from Louisiana, I believe. They all are from Louisiana. Like from the state? From the state of Louisiana. Yeah, Louisiana honestly has in terms of like high school talent I know Florida is always reputed But if you look at Florida like when it comes to high school talent probably dipped
Starting point is 00:04:24 Georgia, Louisiana can start laying claim to best high school talent. But I think I wanna lean towards is because they're from Louisiana, not because they went to LSU. Because I don't know that if I, I'm someone who wants to be developed at a certain position.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I don't know if I just blindly, well, this school does it. I go for coaches. It's the programs that I look for. I don't look for just the brand of the school. So I think it's something about Louisiana High School wide receivers that are really good, that turn into great college wide receivers, that turn into elite NFL wide receivers. It's just really special what that university has pumped out. Like I said, there's like zero latency for these guys to come online in the pros like they hit the ground running having said that Malik neighbors is going to die the job like
Starting point is 00:05:12 the Giants if I'm a Wellington Mara whatever I've been coming down as a guys like look let's not well we know we're not that good is Wellington so with us is he I don't I think I really moved on for what's the name of the Rooney Mara is one married married to Joaquin Phoenix, her partner's with Joaquin Phoenix. Wellington Mara died in 2005. Ah, so it's been a little bit. He missed COVID.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah. Oh man. That's my barometer now. You should have been there. He would have loved it. That's my barometer now. Every time I hear someone died like 2008. Aw, you miss all the fun.
Starting point is 00:05:40 We were just getting warmed up. I think about my man Michael Clark Duncan, right? The green mile, like, oh, he never knew about COVID. He would just getting warmed up. I think about my man, Michael Clark Duncan, right? The green mile, like, oh, he never knew about coding. He would have loved this. He would have been here. He would have just in your home, sipping on a seltzer. Man, Michael Clark Duncan would have loved this.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Wiping your groceries. Wiping groceries down. He would have loved this. Watching Twitch for entertainment. Seeing what kind of third world country is playing soccer illegally. Oh, this is amazing. Did he know what Twitch was?
Starting point is 00:06:08 He's like, wait, what's Twitch? Wellington Mero would have loved this Mexican soccer league. Korean baseball. Oh my gosh. Oh man, but yeah, it's one of those things where, I know Dan does this thing where he talks about like, man, we're destroying these bodies or whatever. And for the most part, I'm like, no, man, come on.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Like, they all signed up for this. But I don't think anyone signed up to be like, the only target every single game. I think neighbors, he kind of, I think he wasn't satisfied with his targets in the first weekend. They've made it up to him. If anyone kills him, it's not gonna be Dable,
Starting point is 00:06:43 who's dying his beard, obviously. Oh my God. It's crazy. Oh my God. It's gonna be Daniel Jones, because some of these passes need to be a little bit more on the mark, but that just goes to show you
Starting point is 00:06:53 how special Malik Nevers is, in that it's a limited offense, it's certainly a limited quarterback, and he's on a field with C.D. Lamb, okay, at the same position, and you watch Nevers, and you're like like this might be the best football player on the field and they have Michael Parsons on there. There's a lot of talent in that game. No, I'm not in blue blue and white, but he is special No doubt you remember a faint faint dream. I remember and I can see it in the distance for there for that one weekend We thought cadarres Tony was Malik name, dude
Starting point is 00:07:24 15 targets 14 catches for 125, and we were like, that's it, that's the guy. Two-time Super Bowl champion. Thank you. Kadarius Toney. Gatorade player of the week. Fast Twitch player of the week. The only Fast Twitch player of the week.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Oh my god, what a time that was. Can you imagine what his life was right at that moment? Right at that precipice, like, oh my god, this man right here, Patrick Mahomes, about to turn me into the greatest wide receiver who ever played, right? Just do this every week? Look, I will not apologize for my
Starting point is 00:07:52 Caderious Tony Love at this point, it's a bit. But they don't win that Super Bowl, that first one against the Eagles without him. They don't win it without him. They flatly don't. It is, I'm just trying to, like, do you think he took out loans and stuff that he started to live beyond his means
Starting point is 00:08:07 because he thought, guys, I made it. I'm good. I'm good. NFL wide receivers, they're usually fiscally responsible. I don't think so. They're really kind of sober personalities. Very, very reserved. He seems pretty conservative with his money.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Neighbors is on target for 221 targets this this season which would shatter the single season record of 205 set by Marvin Harrison jr. S father Thank God on average in a 16 game season. He still would have broken it at 208 So that's the type of pace he's on in terms of targets It's it's crazy that he's getting that level of targets and actually being worth that in terms of production in the way he's coming down with plays it's it's It's rare that you see someone in the first four games be this what Josh Gordon might have been the first guy that we saw
Starting point is 00:08:54 Or most recent guy that we saw that just instantly well he was stashed. He was stashed for a while He was supplemental pick like at the time that he got onto the field I mean OBJ was incredible after the hamstring injury and that's hurt he missed the first like four or five games then came out and went insane Jamar chase I think his rookie year was also if you look at his numbers were insane But to a means point of all else you guys all else you guys who by the way Justin Jefferson also also came into the league, but you to the LSU point There used to be a time where you couldn't get LSU skill players because those guys weren't as good
Starting point is 00:09:26 as they were labeled in college. It was like, I remember DBU is LSU. Any corner, any seat you would take from LSU was a dog. Past rushers, linebackers, all the defensive players would stand the test of time in the NFL. And then all of a sudden, it's like this rush of offensive firepower led by Leonard Fournette, Gerald Burrow, Justin Jeffers, like all of those guys kind of transitioned and
Starting point is 00:09:48 was like, oh wait, LSU is now a program that can send kids to the NFL and make them superstars. But I mean, to the point of killing Malik neighbors, I don't know what- Is that the name of this episode, killing Malik neighbors? Yeah. They're gonna kill Malik neighbors! You disrespectful son of a b****! Howdy folks, it's Mike Ryan. I want to talk to you about the great taste of Miller Light. Gonna cut right to it today because it's football season as you know and there's
Starting point is 00:10:17 nothing more American than football and Miller Light. It's a perfect pairing. I mean even chefs would agree that this is better than any dish I can cook up the way that Miller light hits your tongue when there's gridiron action happening there's just nothing like it and to know that you're holding that beautiful white can is to know that not only are you getting great taste but you were also getting beer that is less filling why don't you join me drink this beer while you're watching football and spend less time thinking about what you're drinking and spend more quality time with your friends. Ah, that is Miller time. Make your game time taste like Miller time. Taste great and it's
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Starting point is 00:11:18 Love it. Nah, I think it's an overrated fry. You guys go ketchup or Chick-fil-A sauce when you have the Chick-fil-A fry? Polynesian sauce That's my brother right there. Good call. You're my brother Stu guts. Oh my god weird interaction Wow, this is the done libertar show with a Stu guts How is everybody so hurt so quickly?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Something I don't know what's happening. I don't know if people are skipping the preseason games and not getting their body right, but there has been such a wave of injury to prime time all star players within the first three weeks. I don't think we've ever had an injury riddled season as quickly as we have like this year these guys again Like these are crazy like it's not like football hasn't changed. It hasn't changed but like Malik neighbors his usage rate I don't even know if that's a stat in in football. It's like it could be it's it's abnormally high Like you do you run someone that many times so So you know what I thought about? I thought about, maybe I'm the old guy here, thought about Brett Favre and
Starting point is 00:12:29 Sterling Sharp. Because Sterling Sharp, if you don't know Shannon Sharpe's older brother Sterling Sharp, when Shannon Sharpe went to the Hall of Fame, his Hall of Fame speech was incredible. He literally said my whole life I was just trying to be my older brother because Sterling was the best player in their family. Yeah Sterling was great. And Sterling Sharp early best player in their family. Yeah, Sterling was great. And Sterling Sharpe early in Brett Favre's career in Green Bay, when he had zero confidence and he wasn't a good quarterback, his security blanket
Starting point is 00:12:54 was, I'm throwing it to Sterling Sharpe every single time. Sterling Sharpe basically made Brett Favre in the sense of giving him the confidence that, yo, you can do this. And then, of course, he went on to become Hall of Fame quarterback and Hall of Fame piece of shit. But. That's a tough week for that. Well, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Look. I'm not, look. Was he already voted in? In the Hall of Fame of being a piece of shit? First ballot. Yeah, like projecting. No, he's already in there. He's been in there.
Starting point is 00:13:19 What'd you make of that? Because the revelation happens. Brown Co. Yep. He's speaking to Congress because he built the poorest of his community out of money. But he reveals that. I don't know, I mean, if you wanna assume
Starting point is 00:13:32 that it was a play on getting people's sympathy. It worked, I thought. It was effective, he got mine. No. You didn't get yours? No. Dude, Parkinson's is a hellscape. I would not wish that on anyone.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I was like made really sad to hear that because you also, he was the NFL Ironman. And especially towards the Minnesota days, we all remember his skull bouncing off the turf. Bounty gate. Yeah, and we all knew that he was going to pay for that at some point. Like he paid for that volleyball stadium.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Bam, got his ass. Yo, it's true, it's one of those things where, yeah, I feel bad for you also, how about them $77 million? Like there's just, those two thoughts can exist together. Did you just hit him with a Ricky Henderson quote where he was asked, are you made sad by what's happening in Oakland. I'm rich, I can't be sad. I love Ricky Henderson so much. His name is literally on the field.
Starting point is 00:14:32 That they will never play again and he's like I'm rich. It's called perspective. Look it up. Thank you, Amin. But Brett Favre, to my point, in order to exit that embryonic stage of man, I suck, which followed him in Atlanta and- No, he definitely stung. He needed the security blanket of Sterling Sharp. Now the good news is, it really opened things up for Favre and he became, as I said, Hall of Fame quarterback and Hall of Fame piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And yes, Billy, the jacket is brown to the shit Hall of Fame. is it. And yes, Billy, the jacket is brown to the shit Hall of Fame. But the cost of that, Sterling Sharp was destroyed physically. He never got to be the full realization of his career, the way his brother, Shannon, was. And now I look at Malik Nabors, I'm like, yo, this might be the guy who finally makes Daniel Jones look like a serviceable quarterback.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Of course, the cost we're gonna have to pay is, you gotta die, Malik Nabors, so that Daniel Jones can live. Sacrificial lamb, Malik Nabors? Kind of, and I'm like, I don't feel good about that. Not for Daniel Jones. He does look more serviceable. There's a lot of bad quarterback play. That was a rough game last night.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I just, and especially at the end when Aubrey Masak kick, that stung. Zebras took over the game though. The game flows in the NFL have been really, really difficult. Old man Al Michaels, shitting on the refs. He was so tired. I don't think I've remembered a play-by-play guy, I remember a play-by-play guy,
Starting point is 00:16:05 let alone a play-by-play guy of Al Michaels caliber, Hall of Fame. Not that one, Billy. Don't get started. He's in the regular Hall of Fame. I said nothing. Don't look in your eyes. No such thing.
Starting point is 00:16:16 This happens occasionally in the NFL, where there's really strong point of emphasis in the offseason, and the officials try to institute that. And then by the end of the season, No one cares. The game flow gets a little bit better and the games get a little bit looser.
Starting point is 00:16:30 So it's just frustrating, especially with standalone games. In a prime time spot with a new sponsor, right? Amazon Prime, you're gonna have a game trot out there that has, I can't look, I can't find where the penalties are. There must have been like almost 25 penalties They're insane dude. I bailed on the game. I just bailed out of me. No, I was watching mr. McMahon You're looking in this studio. There's two two of the stars of the mr. McMahon documentary
Starting point is 00:16:57 Did you know that you're in the mr. McMahon documentary? Am I you're in the mr. McMahon documentary? I swear to god Is it is wait hold on this is md? Hold on, is this about like the whole, what's the guy's name? I'm not playing a joke on you. Mick Foley? Yeah, the Mick Foley thing? No, no, no, it's not the Kevin Owens thing you stepped into at DSPN, no, it's not that.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I didn't know it either. Pablo's in it too. So like in the opening credits of episode one, they do like, you know, all these static images, and while it's happening it's people talking about Vince McMahon and the WWE. My voice is in it, Pablo's voice is in it, I think you can make out a means voice in it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 There's no way my voice is in it. I'm pretty sure. YouTube comments if you've watched Vince McMahon. What'd you say? I've never said anything about Vince McMahon in my life. I think your voice was a part of what Pablo was saying. Oh, what did Pablo say? I don't recall.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I was just like, just glowing in that, is that my voice? Can I guess what Pablo said? Here's the thing. Check the YouTube comments to confirm if Amin was in it. To be fair, I didn't hear it for myself. I saw Pablo tweet about it, and he mentioned that Amin's voice was in it. I didn't hear it for myself. I saw Pablo tweet about it, and he mentioned that a means voice was in it. I didn't pick up on it.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I barely picked up on myself. I watched it, and I was like, yo, was that me? And I flipped it back, because someone, I had one mention that said, cameo Mr. McMahon. I thought that there was this bearded guy that kinda looked like me, and I'm like, okay, someone's making fun of my appearance or whatever. And then,
Starting point is 00:18:25 like, wait a second. And then I watched it, I'm like, oh yeah, that's my voice, I think. And it wasn't really the tenor of my voice, it was like what I was saying. I'm like, yeah, that sounds like something I would say. Somebody did tag me and say, hey, McMahon Doc, and I was like, do you want me to talk about it?
Starting point is 00:18:41 I don't know, because there was no exposition, it was just like, McMahon Doc. I'm like, all right, thank you. So you haven't watched it. No about it? I don't know. Because there was no exposition. It was just like, McMahon doc. I'm like, all right, thank you. So you haven't watched it. No, no. I'm going to tell you something, man. I don't like having all this shit come out all at once. Too much volume.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Too much volume. Oh, you mean just shows, like entertainment, or just all this stuff coming out about people that you grew up with, like Diddy, or just all of the McMahon scandals like being there for you all at once. All the episodes all at once. Let's build, let's grow together in this story.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Like Penguin. Let's have an opportunity to react. I'm in. You're Penguin? Penguin. Penguin or Penguin Out? Are you in Penguin? I haven't tried it yet.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Oh, there's a dude, the guy with like the gray beard, that's like one of like, you's one of the organized crime bosses. I'm like, where do I know this guy from? I Googled it. He's one of the Lost Boys from Hook. Really? Yeah, the Italian looking Lost Boy in Hook. Yeah, he's got a beard and he's in Penguin.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Oh my god. Good figure. Does he play Carmine? No, no, he's not a Falcone. But he's a- Maronicone, but he's a... Maroney. Yeah, but he's like one of those guys. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It's a show on Max, right? Yeah, I dig it. Right, and it's based off of the Penguin character that was in The Batman with Robert Pattinson, right? Yeah, which was probably a little too long, but overall, file for me. It wasn't for me. Look, Batman as a character is already emo enough. I don't need emo Batman.
Starting point is 00:20:09 That was just too much. What I liked about it was that it was a dark new twist. Everyone does a dark new twist on that stuff. What I liked about it was in the comics, Batman was always the world's greatest detective. He'd enter a crime scene, and all these idiot cops woulda know what they were doing, and he'd just be like, hey, Commissioner Gordon, come here, let me talk to ya,
Starting point is 00:20:30 let me tell you what's going on here. And in the movie, whoa! In the movies, you never got to, I'll pay the fine, in the movies you never got to see that. It was always like, Joel Schumacher never really positioned Batman as this great detective. And the movies you never got to see that it was always like, you know, Joel Schumacher never really Positioned Batman as this great detective right this one the Matt Reeves movies really get into him being a great detective Which I kind of dig he's kind of like Taffer in that way
Starting point is 00:20:54 He walks into a kitchen and he can see like all the things like what temperature is this chicken being kept at like 50 degrees You're gonna kill somebody. Yeah this gonna kill somebody! Yeah. This beer, what temperature is that? 45? You're gonna kill somebody! That's why you got so much head. That's why you got so much... Hey, yo. That's hey, look, man.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Let me tell you something. Taffer, he knows about head. Hell yeah. I like a lot of head on the beer. Better in the glass than in your stomach, I say. Yeah. Get rid of that carbon dioxide. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Take those napkins, dip them in, show people the right way to pour a beer. Ain't that right Billy? It's like a loaf of bread! Right. But I was so confused when he was doing that at the Super Bowl, I was like, I'm not following along. You didn't get the signs?
Starting point is 00:21:38 No, no, because I think he said something backwards or something, so I was like, wait, what's going on here? It was very odd. And we also had to sneak that beer in past security, which wasn't like a... It's concerning. What do you mean you had to sneak it in? That's what he means.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Isn't wallet? Well, you gotta go through metal detectors and such, and they're not just gonna let you walk through with a metal can of beer. These were like the scanners where they would take like a. Well we went through like the standard metal detector at Radio Row but like there was also a food court right by there so,
Starting point is 00:22:14 you know, some strings were pulled. Was it a food court or food pavilion? Some people can be sicklers about this. I think it was a food court, I don't know what's a pavilion. There is none. But some people insist on calling it, be sicklers about this. I think it was a food court. I don't know what's a pavilion. There is none. But some people insist on calling it a food pavilion.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I want to go back to that food court and see what the prices are today, because I'm positive. It was dynamic pricing there. There's no way that that food court normally sells you two slices of pizza for $39. So what food pavilion is to food court normally sells you two slices of pizza for $39. So what food pavilion is to food court, dynamic pricing is to price gouging.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I think it all makes sense now. The Taffer beer trick, this is like one of his signature things. I've seen him do it on other shows. Billy, like I feel. His interviews, listen, John Taffer, if you're're listening stop for a moment because we're gonna be slightly critical Okay, and no one sent us a John Taffer tread lightly his interviews are all the same right? It's it's basically I invented red zone
Starting point is 00:23:16 Mm-hmm I basically like put things in the way so people rub butts against each other Every time I find a funnel, and then the beer thing. And then you ask them about looking around things like, I've never heard that before. People say I do that, and it's like, yeah, every interview someone asks you about this, John Taff. Okay. We've been here. Let me guess, you don't like the Costco guys either?
Starting point is 00:23:37 We've talked about them way too much. Yeah. Aren't they doing a thing this weekend? Is Chris Cody going to that? The boom pack. That's why he's not here. Dude. The boom pack.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You like the Costco guys? Yeah, I like the Costco the cost it's too much. What do you mean? It's I'm over them. Why it's just that's too much. I don't understand it. I just don't get it It is pretty nuanced it is hard to get So it's all right If you like you give it a boom if you don't like it you give it a do you don't get why they're making it sound You're making it sound simple. I'm saying you don't get why they're famous. You're making it sound simple. I'm trying to make it sound simple for them, Michael. It's easier to understand, but it's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's more nuanced, but that's the baseline. But I guess what I don't get is, why do people like them? What's the appeal? I mean, I like them because of what we're articulating. I think it's high art. Look, let's pull back the curtains and expose people for what they are. Mike Ryan, for about six weeks now,
Starting point is 00:24:33 has been sending me the worst memes and reels on Instagram. They're awful. They're all of these people who awkwardly stare into the camera and like, with piercing blue blue eyes and just do very cringy. And I hate using that word, but there's no other word I'd use. Speaking of Trenton Lightly, if you say a bad word about my homie Greg,
Starting point is 00:24:56 I'm telling you right now, you better not say a bad word about Greg. People lip syncing to like 80 songs, but they're trying to be like intriguing and attractive do you guys follow Greg Hutchinson no no okay don't know any this is to Aiden or no no it's not Hutchinson Hutchison oh no yeah there's one where it's a family and they've got a nanny and they are three dads what the hell is that man are three dads is I think I'm the only person on the planet that follows this account. All right, so our three dads is not a throuple,
Starting point is 00:25:28 they correct you, there is a divorced couple, a gay couple, a 70 year old man, and one that is younger but he's juiced out and dies his beard, they admit to all of this. And he remarried, and the three dads live together with their live-in nanny. And so I think one of the dads sold his parents real estate company for a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:25:50 So these dudes, it's very clearly like this family is trying to record high quality for IG, like high quality content to pitch to television networks. But all they're getting is like three likes on IG. It's crazy, production value, this is like a show that you would see on E, but it's just existing on Instagram, and I'm the only person that likes it,
Starting point is 00:26:15 and I send these things to a meme to make sure I'm not hallucinating and they're real. No, you send them to me because you wanna piss me off. Because I've told you to stop. I've literally said, stop sending me stuff. You even dislike Greg though? Greg is great. It's awful.
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Starting point is 00:28:09 Stu Gatz. Let's go say hello. This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stu Gatz. I just found out last night that Francis Ford Coppola is still with us. Is it Coppola or Coppola? I'm calling him Coppola. How did you not know he was still with us? Didn't you hear about him trying to finance this huge movie by himself? No, that's how I found out about it. I've seen the trailer for this movie. He said, from the vision of Francis Ford Coppola, Coppola, whatever his name is, and Adam Driver, Megalopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelopelop And the review that I got from my buddy Mochetta was that not since Cloud Atlas has there been
Starting point is 00:29:06 such an ambitious movie made by a filmmaker that just totally misses the mark. You know that there's like a part in this movie, there's like 20 markets in the US where there's a part in the movie where there's crowd participation. Where someone acts with Adam Driver, someone in the crowd acts with Adam Driver.
Starting point is 00:29:24 That's gotta be a mark, right? They hired this person. No, there's 20 different marks, like 20 different markets where this is happening and like I saw an IG reel on one person that was like I was casted as the actor that goes back and forth with Adam Driver in the film. There's a part in the film where he breaks a fourth wall
Starting point is 00:29:40 and he essentially does a Q&A with the audience. It's really ambitious stuff, but the movie itself seems to not make much sense from the trailer. I wanted to watch it just to see what kind of mess this would be, but I'm not gonna knock ambition. He had to fund this because movie studios
Starting point is 00:29:58 will not make this kind of movie anymore, and sometimes they'll flop, and unfortunately they'll probably use this as a case study to not do films like this, but I do find Original films without any IP anything borrowed like I find that very refreshing but this apparently Mr. Mark I I told you guys that I Begrudged Hollywood studios for years for not letting these artists tell the stories that are in their brain, right? I'm like why did why edit it down? Oh my god, the director's cut sounds so much more
Starting point is 00:30:28 interesting. And then I watched The Irishman and I said, you know what? Maybe the studios were on to something. Maybe, just maybe, they knew something because they let Scorsese make whatever he wanted to do with that movie, Netflix did, because they just wanted to say we did a Scorsese movie, and it was so unbelievably long and boring. Guys, I have something that I wanna workshop with you on air today, and it stems from a conversation in the commissary this morning. So I found out yesterday when I was picking my daughter
Starting point is 00:30:59 up from school that she didn't have school today, and then it was scramble mode, and I found out because the teacher's like, have a good weekend. I was like, what a silly goose, it's Thursday. It's a teacher work day? It's not related to the storm. No, no, I think it's a teacher work day or something, right? But I found this out at Pickup
Starting point is 00:31:12 and then I consulted the calendar. I was like, oh yeah, I highlighted that. I just lost track of time. So then I had to scramble to figure out, well, what am I gonna do with my child today? Because I have to come in and my wife took some days off because our kid was sick, the other one. So anyway, the solution that we have is that
Starting point is 00:31:31 my dad who works from home is gonna be watching for a little bit and then after I get out of here, I'm gonna fly home to go take care of my child. And we did the thing where it was just, if she's acting up and you're out of work, just put on a movie, right? And then in talking things out, we realize kids' movies nowadays
Starting point is 00:31:50 are like an hour and 10 minutes. They are quick. It's not what they used to be. So what I want to try to figure out what to do, and as you know, we have a number of parents here, maybe you guys can help me out. I wanna make the Titanic of movies. I want a Titanic kids movie that's three hours in length
Starting point is 00:32:09 so that you just kinda set it and forget it. I want a kids movie that if it was VHS days, two VHS's long, that you can just go. I'm not a big screen time guy at all, but this is a break glass in case of emergency situation like this one where my father has to work But it has to be a movie cuz like yeah series No, no, just put on big city greens and I said it and forget it
Starting point is 00:32:32 No, we need to have a premise for a movie not Titanic. That's a little grim Yeah, the Titanic movies is already when I said yeah I meant Titanic of kids movies more so in terms of like length like I need a really long Kids like heat to be I meant Titanic of kids movies more so in terms of length. Like I need a really long kids movie. Like Heat, two VHS tapes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But Pixar Heat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:52 The problem is, I think, movies are made now more than ever with the idea that you're gonna take your kid to the movies. That's how they make their money. They don't make the box office. We're not going to the movies for this length of a movie. This is straight to video. for this length of a movie. This is a streaming exclusive thing. Because I'm not taking my kid to a movie.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I don't think I've ever taken my daughters to movies. No, actually, I think about it. I don't think we've gone to a theater yet. Yeah, no, we haven't. Well, I think tomorrow we're going to love this. I think that we have marked down on the calendar, like Moana 2, I think, is going to be like where we make our movie theater debut.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Debut? Yeah. You wanna do a soft launch before you take them to something. Really? Yeah, cause you need to, they have to get acclimated to the idea, hey, we're gonna sit still for an hour and 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah. And watch this thing and we're not gonna yell, we're not gonna get up in the morning. So do I do that at home, how do I soft launch this? I think you gotta pick a movie that's been out for months and months. Uh huh. And then you do that at home? How do I soft launch this? I think you gotta pick a movie that's been out for months and months. And then you go at a time where there's not gonna be a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But here's the thing about taking your children to the movies. Normally when I wanna go to see a movie with not a lot of people, I go at what would be prime time for kids movies I would think, right? So if I wanna go see a movie, I'll go a Saturday at 12.55 a.m., or p.m.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Yeah, I'll go first thing, and if I could get an 11.20 a.m. movie ticket, oh, I'm in heaven. I go there, there's two random creepers just sitting by themselves somewhere else in the theater. It's incredible. Acting with Adam Driver. No one's there.
Starting point is 00:34:21 If I want to go to an 11.20 screening for a child's movie, I'm assuming it's packed. That's prime time. Yeah, so I have to go at night, like prime time, like wake my kids up from their slumber at 10.30 p.m. to go see a kid's movie? No, you gotta just pick a movie that's been out for a long time so that anyone who's going is also going there to soft launch their kids into movies.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Okay. That's the explicit purpose of going to watch, I don't know, Inside Out 2, in the theater now. to soft launch their kids into movies. That's the explicit purpose of going to watch, I don't know, Inside Out 2 in the theater now. Like, it's already out on Disney Plus. If you came here to the theater to watch it, you're probably trying to soft launch your kid into the idea of going to the movies.
Starting point is 00:34:55 That's what you do. Also, are kids' movies with kids a nightmare in terms of no one behaves, or are they all well-behaved? I haven't run into that. No? I haven't run into that at all. I've taken Julia to the movies quite a bit. And it's not.
Starting point is 00:35:08 The other kids aren't like crazy screaming. No, I can understand why you would assume that. I went into that thinking maybe they're just well behaved kids where I'm at. But I haven't run into that issue. I would say every once in a while you get a runner. A runner? Every once in a while up and down the aisles and it's like somebody grab that kid.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Really? Yeah. Hasn't happened to me. But what happens a lot is you get the kids that talk back to the movie. Oh. Especially the younger ones, they really can't differentiate between reality
Starting point is 00:35:43 and this is a story being told. Uh oh, lots of uh oh's when things go wrong. That was me at Twisters. differentiate between reality and this is a story being told. Uh oh, lots of uh ohs when things go wrong. That was me at Twisters. What a great film. I like an uh oh. Look, for the most part, like Mike said, they get it. But you get sometimes a little bit excited,
Starting point is 00:36:02 excitable ones, they wanna get involved, they wanna be part of the story. And their parents don't kinda like, that's another thing. You get parents who don't tell them, hey, be quiet, we're in a movie or whatever. They just let them do what they do. Yeah, well this isn't not what I want my three hour movie for though.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I want this to be like a straight to home situation. Like a streaming exclusive. But you don't want a TV series. No, no. TV series. No. No. TV series are easier. You can just put them on IG and watch R3 Dads, and that'll be like two and a half hours.
Starting point is 00:36:33 OK. Definitely don't do that. Maybe you could have a fairy tale story where there's fairy tale type creatures, right? And there's a ruler of that area. We can call it far, Far Away or something like that. And then that ruler wants to ban all of those fairy tale creatures
Starting point is 00:36:50 and he pushes them all to a swamp where there's an ogre. And then that ogre is really unhappy and there could be like a talking donkey or something. I don't know, maybe he cast Eddie Murphy in it. I don't know, I'm just spitballing some ideas. Right. Have you guys ever heard the Eddie Murphy Shrek story, by the way, like why he did Shrek?
Starting point is 00:37:07 No, I have not. So he said, Jeffrey Katzenberg came up to him like in 1987 or whatever, and said, hey, I got this great role for you. What's it about? It's about this guy, and he's like, he's framed for a crime that he didn't commit, and everyone thinks he did it, but he didn't really do it,
Starting point is 00:37:19 and he's gotta clear his name. And then he's like, oh, this is incredible. At the end of it, he's like, oh, by the way, the movie's animated, you're just doing the voice. And Eddie Murphy said, get the fuck outta here. I'm not doing no damn children's movie, da da da. And I said, two years later, Who Framed Roger Rabbit came out.
Starting point is 00:37:34 He was supposed to be Roger Rabbit. And so fast forward 15 years later, Jeffrey Katzenberg says, oh man, I got a great movie for you. Well, you're not the main, you're like the support guy, but you are the best friend to this guy who's being targeted and no one really understands him. We got Chris Farley attached.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Actually a good guy, da da da. And it's animated, and Eddie Murphy's like, and then he's like, tell me more. And that was Shrek. And then for Shrek 2, him, Mike Myers, and Cameron Diaz, they all signed a deal to get percentage of gross, and Shrek 2 went on and become like the best-selling DVD of all time.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And literally Eddie Murphy could have not made a dime from his entire career. And when I tell you he's rich beyond rich from just Shrek, it's mind boggling. I think, I don't know if I'm supposed to reveal this or not, but like I've been told, we have someone that works here who has a relative that's in show business through marriage that had a sitcom, right?
Starting point is 00:38:33 And this person has told me that that person has made so much more money from an animated movie about the Ice Age than on their sitcom. We had him on the show. Did we? Yeah. Well, I'm not saying. Did the person say that on the show?
Starting point is 00:38:50 I believe so. Okay, yeah, Ray Romano's made so much more money from Ice Age than he ever did from everybody's fan clubs, right? Didn't they just end up replacing all the voices in Ice Age because I've been watching some Ice Age stuff and I'm like, these voices sound like a little racist, honestly.
Starting point is 00:39:04 You know what I saw? That din is, honestly. You know what I saw? Man, that Dennis Leary. You know what I saw? That is not Queen Latifah. I don't know who that is, but I feel awkward watching this. So you know, you guys obviously know Toy Story. You know Tom Hanks from Toy Story, right? Doesn't ring a bell.
Starting point is 00:39:18 OK, so Woody obviously is like a big character, but Toy Story has gone on to be more than just like the four movies, five movies, or whatever. They have like rides, video games, all this stuff. So how do they do that? Is it AI? Do they record Tom Hanks? They don't bring in Tom Hanks to do all of these things.
Starting point is 00:39:36 They can't afford him. It's his brother. They hired his brother to do a voice of Tom Hanks. Like Jose Canseco. All of these other spin-offs. So Tom Hanks' brother is living off of doing his, an impression of Tom Hanks as Woody. 1000%. Jeremy, I found out when I was watching an episode of
Starting point is 00:39:56 Robot Chicken on Adult Swim, and they did a skit where Woody gets like addicted to crack or whatever, and I'm like, how did they get, cause they often will get celebrities to come do the whatever. And I'm like, how did they get, because they often will get celebrities to come do the voices. And I'm like, how did they get Tom Hanks to sign up on this? And then I saw the credits, and it's like John Hanks. And I'm like, who the hell is John Hanks?
Starting point is 00:40:14 I looked it up. It's like, yeah, it's his brother. It's his brother, and his brother has this entire cottage in the ship, all the video games, all the Disney rides, anything that's not a Toy Story movie, or like major Christmas TV special or something like that, it's Tom Hanks' brother. And he was Forrest Gump's body double.
Starting point is 00:40:33 That's amazing, that's where it all started. That's how the rich day is, huh? Jim Hanks. Jim, it's Jim, right? Jim Hanks. I'm gonna try to find out which things he's been doing. Well look, there's a picture of Jim Hanks. I can't, yeah, a picture of Jim Hanks.
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