The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: LEBRON TO MIAMI?

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

It's 2009 all over again as the Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz discusses the potential of LeBron James joining the Miami Heat. Also, people LOVE voting. Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Greg, Chris, B...illy, and Mike (and Jeremy for some reason). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 Hey. But the nostalgia, you don't understand what happened to me this morning. That piece of confetti has been flowing all morning for me because I wake up on what is traditionally one of the worst sports weeks there's ever been to not one but two newspaper articles, old fashioned saying LeBron to Miami question mark.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And I'm like, are you kidding me? We are back. articles old-fashioned saying lebron to miami question mark that uh... but i don't think you can't really are back are you going to are you joking i read and it's basically just a scenario where it's like well where else is he going to go art not one but two newspaper articles that's ridiculous. It is. I mean, just the other day, ESPN has a big analytical piece
Starting point is 00:02:50 listing four teams where he might go, and Miami's not even one of them. What are we doing? There's only two teams that can make money for money swap work. Jeremy and I were workshopping this in the bullpen. After Norm Powell's acquisition, your boy is back, because vibes have kind of. You're back? No, the bullpen. After Norm Powell's acquisition, your boy is back. Because vibes have kinda. You're back?
Starting point is 00:03:06 No, no, no. It's a Norm Powell? No, no. All it took was a little small. I saw Dan criticizing it. Norm Powell's a tipping point? Yeah, doing something positive was a tipping point. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I'm still upset about this Kevin Durant pursuit, especially since we didn't want to trade Kaleo Ware and then Spoh spoke about him. And he's like, basically he needs to change everything about his game and his approach to it. But don't worry, he did. 21 and 15 last night. I mean, I don't really get it.
Starting point is 00:03:32 But, you know, he'd have two bad contracts so that they can trade and just straight up do the money thing with LA. Not a lot of teams can do that. And then LA doesn't have to worry about a pesky little buy-up. Specifically the money being expiring after next year because reportedly that is what the Lakers want is no money beyond the year. Oh but come on man.
Starting point is 00:03:50 The way that you're assembling that now has you guys have in the most magical of absurd turd sports radio situations where it's always it's always I'm going to trade my bag of nothing for the most important thing. That's regional sports radio You're not telling me Rosier and Wiggins straight up for LeBron. That's what gets it done. Dana will staple a second to it Perfect would it be at the end of this Terry Rosier story arc it ends with a re-acquisition of the game's greatest player. I will not do that show today. Yeah, we'll throw in Wayne Simien. Wayne Simien. You've got to be, you guys remember
Starting point is 00:04:32 when we did shows about how it is that you trade Omar Yertsevin for Kevin Durant. That's right. Daquan Cook says so. We're not putting him in the piece. So now you guys have created the scenario, and Iren Berry have lent credence to it by writing an article.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Hey, Heat Fanbase, can I interest you in, well, we'll add Norm Powell and Wiggins and Rossier straight up from LeBron. That's a good trade. That's a good trade. I like it. This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I like it. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I will get to LeBron to the Miami Heat in a second, but I want to ask all of you a question. I drove in this morning and I was marveling, as I often do in South Florida, about what a weird place we are. And a lot of people who listen to this show say that I too often describe something as uniquely Miami when it's something that's all over the Americas, all over the world. But I want to ask you guys genuinely, if you believe that in downtown,
Starting point is 00:05:42 in any other major metropolis in our United States, you could drive in through downtown and get this particular video and sound and get it from 50 roosters downtown or 500 roosters downtown because we have more roosters down here than pigeons. Tell me this is something that you guys can imagine in any other major American city downtown. Is it something, it can't be something that's somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Do I have this wrong? I would love, I mean, we have a pretty big fan base that's spread out. I would like to know if anyone in the, in the YouTube chat right now has roosters walking around their downtown. The biggest comp that I've ever seen compared to Miami is Key West. You'll see plenty of roosters walking around their downtown. The biggest comp that I've ever seen compared to Miami is Key West, you'll see plenty of roosters walking down Key. Yeah, but they just came from over here. They were all here first.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah, they went down the seven mile ridge. They ended up in the Keys, right? They're like, we don't want to be in that part of America, we want to be in this part of America, and this is as far south as it gets. But I don't understand, and this is, Billy, I don't know if you know Hispanic gallocho history but uh... this is something that is so for a long time and you will see
Starting point is 00:06:50 giant roosters all over kai ocho and south florida for a reason i'm assuming it's that reason i'm assuming there is a i guess we can ask ron mcgill later i don't know why they're here but this isn't anywhere else right real roosters are the sculptures. The sculptures that are in celebration of the real roosters. That's like an art installation. It's art. Why did someone tape a banana to a wall?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Art. Yep. You should get art, Dan. Okay, but bananas are everywhere. The rooster being specific to it. There's roosters everywhere. Downtown Des Moines is probably full of roosters. So you don't know the history. Okay, thanks for the contribution.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, I imagine the large scale art installations are to reflect what is happening in the community, which is actual actual roosters walking around everywhere. If you go to Marlins Park, there's a bunch of roosters around Marlins Park. But amplifying what Mike said, roosters have taken over Key West. You go to Key West now, I love Key West, we go there as tourists a few times a year. You see roosters now in sloppy Joe's Ordering drinks. I mean they have taken over the city and it's like they're the symbol of Key West in a way that I don't think roosters are in Miami except for a few Hispanic neighborhoods, please turn that off I think that's gonna start annoying people if it hasn't already Put it on in the poll have roosters taken over Key West.
Starting point is 00:08:06 These were over there by the metro rail. Greg, can you take that mask off, please? Why are you wearing that mask? It's muffling the sounds that we're getting. You may have heard, Dan, there's a global pandemic going on. I wanted to protect myself and others around me, so that's why I was wearing the mask. Okay, but there is?
Starting point is 00:08:23 We taped this show in 2021. Fake news. We mask shaming Greg now? No, I there is? We taped this show in 2021. Fake news. We mask shaming Greg now? No, I just would like him, I'd like to hear him better. He was in yesterday and he wasn't wearing a mask though. I would like to take off the mask. That was yesterday. It's very hot.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Okay. It is hot in here. We're having some problems with the equipment. Shall I take off the mask? You just announced that you were gonna take it off. You can do all of it quietly and by yourself. I just need your audio to be slightly better. Billy, it would be helpful to me
Starting point is 00:08:50 if you would find out for me why it is there are art installations of roosters. It's a celebration of the neighborhood's Cuban culture and way to attract tourists. It's part of the Rooster Walk project. Thank you. He was ahead of you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I woke up this morning to not one but two newspaper articles asking whether LeBron to Miami could be a thing. Yesterday on the show I just want to explore this with you guys for old time's sake just because I can't believe it's here and it just makes me smile. Is this the year anniversary of the assassination attempt on Trump? Yeah. Okay. Not today, it was I think over the weekend on Sunday. It makes, I can't believe a year's gone by,
Starting point is 00:09:34 but it makes me smile to think of this particular week in the middle of summer, Stu Gott. When our show was almost literally built upon a LeBron to Miami. Everything our show became was almost literally built upon a LeBron to Miami. Everything our show became was almost literally built on LeBron came to Miami to wake up this morning on a week when so much of sports is on vacation. It's just the All-Star game and people yelling
Starting point is 00:09:59 about whether that guy should be in or whether a kid should be stealing home runs during the home run derby. I have a lot to say about that but we'll get to in a second the man that i get from heaven is not merely that's about just volunteers a day ago i skipped right past this story yesterday
Starting point is 00:10:17 spall mentions for the first time with a private organization in which i hadn't seen any of the insiders report on the following Spoh says for the first time Khalil where needs to work on his professionalism and as soon as I heard the word Professionalism I immediately went to whoa Hassan Whiteside And that spoke to that to me that wasn't there before Spoh the to me and then did to him because none of us were there none of the insiders were reporting anything about spore volunteering we got a guy
Starting point is 00:10:51 who needs to be more professional and last time i heard that kind of stuff it's when it's on white sides leaving his car open there's a giant machine gun in the back and it's on white side is being just maximum as on white side just young kid in the league before he's ready to be an adult that's really not something that you want to hear weeks after the fan base is being just maximum Hassan Whiteside, just young kid in the league before he's ready to be an adult. That's really not something that you want to hear weeks after the fan base is frustrated that they didn't acquire Kevin Durant, one of the rumored places that they wouldn't go.
Starting point is 00:11:13 The bridge too far was adding Kaleo Ware to the mix and two weeks later to have your head coach very rarely says things like that saying he needs to improve his approach to the game He needs to improve aspects of his game makes you wonder aloud. Well, you know who doesn't Kevin Durant What are we doing here? This is a volunteering of information that this organization doesn't usually do it is purposeful that man particularly is I think the most savvy purposeful that man particularly is uh... i think the most savvy uh... careful person around the media have ever seen in this
Starting point is 00:11:49 market doesn't even do has to be available to the media twice a day is bored by an entertains it but doesn't do any of the extra stuff and that was all purposeful and something that they don't do very often and when i'm telling you still got when that lands on me as you just volunteered information that turned a dude in the house on white side on me just because you're the one saying it and it's that word and it's this organization
Starting point is 00:12:17 i hadn't seen that reported anywhere by all of these in so insiders in the information business and i i was taken aback by the fact that he did it and I didn't even mention it yesterday and then today when I was gonna mention it LeBron stops by. I mean it was a totally calculated move by Spoh. He does not do these things and it made me feel like well is this organization feeling the heat a little bit because they got criticized for not really considering putting wear in that package. Fanbase got frustrated and now Spoh is speaking
Starting point is 00:12:45 in ways that we haven't seen him do it publicly. By the way, the concerns about wear's approach to the game should have started and ended with this tattoo that he has on his bicep. It's quite frankly the worst tattoo in all of sports. And as a guy with a Lee Corso tattoo, I feel like I'm on authority on bad tattoos. That right there, terrible tattoo.
Starting point is 00:13:03 The loser is the word that is etched on his bicep and then the S in loser is covered by a V to make him a lover. But you can see the S and it's back there, but now it's the red V. So he's a lover, not a loser. The thing with this sort of public calling out with Spoh is the reason you don't hear it from information insiders is maybe because it really just frustrated Spoh to see the lack of aggressiveness from where in the summer league in particular.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He started the summer league being essentially absent from the offense, not really doing a lot on defense. defense and since being called out it's 21 and 9 and then 21 and 15 and back to back games and when talking about it he just said it's something I got to bring every day and like I said I will it's more of a presence that's being felt out there I just got to bring it that's it plain and simple I think that was a challenge not only to wear but potentially to Bam Adebayo as a leader as well to say hey man you got to take this young buck and do the same things with him that you Don as haslam did with you This is when spo is waving the heat culture flag it in this case It tells me that behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:14:12 There has been a frustration with where building to the point where it finally erupts in a public comment I don't think this is anything that's particularly recent It's got to be something that's been frustrating the heat for many months about this kid, I would think. Why do you go with a loser tattoo in the first place? I mean, it's an odd thing to tattoo on yourself. Hey, I'm a loser. You're right, but I don't think the V was put there because he realized his mistake after the fact and got a second tattoo. I think that was an original idea that he had altogether.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Well, actually, it's not an original idea. This template is quite popular. You'll see it a lot, that exact same style over the internet. He was clearly influenced by it. But it's a bad tattoo because, yes, before you put the V on, you're tattooing loser on your bicep. And then you finish the job. But you briefly got loser. I mean, you still got loser on your arm. I thought maybe he got pranked.
Starting point is 00:15:01 It could also be like, he's a loser five times over. He like woke up and like, what, who did this? Oh man. Roman numeral five, you think he went Roman numeral five, not just nearly a loser, but five time multiplier. With the V, okay. It is a bad decision. I still maintain though the worst tattoo
Starting point is 00:15:21 in the history of the league, I think it was Yao Ming who revealed this, that Kenyon Martin, was it Kenyon Martin? K-Mart. Had a tattoo that he thought said warrior in a Chinese symbol and Yao Ming said it said noodles. Oh. But only Yao knew that, I mean, right?
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Starting point is 00:19:36 You want to come at me and call me a fool Seriously, Jeremy seriously Ten years to your career. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. Getting away from where though, because while I find this small part of it interesting, right, because I don't think it's just public motivation, I would say that Spoh knows the power of his words when I say he's a very media savvy person and he knows whether it's
Starting point is 00:20:11 Fair or not because I don't think it's fair That when he places that there for where and I as a journalist and making the mental leap with a single word From there to Hassan Whiteside And I'm not the only one who is doing that because of how unusual it is for this organization to do things like like that where where he's saying already we know you have talent but you're not fitting here with what it is that we do because you're not professional every day there's not a lot of insults actually that you can give one of the guys growing up in that furnace across the street surrounded by roosters that
Starting point is 00:20:43 that is bigger than that one you're not professional but don't you think Spoh makes the insult because he knows the player can handle the insult you'd like to think that right like he made a mistake with Whiteside and he's not gonna make the same mistake he'd like to see if he's game my only point is my only point on it is because he made the mistake with Whiteside this can't be Whiteside guys Whiteside is one of the all-time knuckleheads in the history of the league i'm being unfair by making the leap to white side but spoke did that to me i did this organization did that to me right
Starting point is 00:21:14 because of how rarely they say we've got an unprofessional in the building we've got somebody here who represents all the things that you don is haslam isn't but how many times didoh have this conversation with Ware privately before it came to this? That's what I'm getting at. This is something that implies it has really been building and building and building to finally get to this point. I guess my point is the stain on this one is hard to get out. It's there now. Even if he goes off for the next six months it's still so the coach
Starting point is 00:21:45 volunteered something on an employee an employee a very careful coach planted something i'd i'd i know you could all look at this and say i doesn't mean anything you can it's a silly little thing in the middle of summer this organization doesn't do this and this is a piece that they are counting on not unlike what bam grew into to be something that proves that they're counting on not unlike what bam grew into to be something that proves that they're right about we shouldn't trade this for kevin torrent
Starting point is 00:22:11 and so they're alerting him now by publicly shaming him in a way that's unusual for the organization and unusual for that man that particular man because riley does some of this that guys got to live with the dough that guys got in his locker room r Riley does it from on high Riley wanders around the building and shouts it from from on high but that guy has to live with these people and he just told everyone else in the locker room that
Starting point is 00:22:36 their young guys not professional and then he told us to which they usually don't let that out of the locker room. Yeah suppose a Pat Riley disciple and Pat would correct me if I'm wrong, he would occasionally challenge people publicly in the media. It wouldn't necessarily land great all the time. Spoh very rarely does something like this. And it could just be an isolated incident. It could have happened if the flames weren't as high
Starting point is 00:22:59 around this organization as, quite frankly, as they've ever really been. But I'm not ignoring the timing. This again, I do think there's part of it. Hey, we had an opportunity to get one of the game's greatest players, a player that we have flirted with multiple times over and never brought here. And you were a tipping point.
Starting point is 00:23:16 We did not want to cross that bridge. We did not want to include you in a package for Kevin Durant. You need to reward the faith that we have in you with a professionalism and an approach that makes us have faith that you can meet your ceiling. I think this just reveals that Spoh voted to keep wear. And now he's feeling the pressure of,
Starting point is 00:23:32 we had a five headed thing here, I voted to keep wear along with probably Nick Erison, so now I'm feeling the pressure of, hey, I turned down Durant for you, get your shit together. Guys, the home run derby was yesterday, the All-Star Games today, and the SBs are tomorrow. Who gives a shit about the Miami Heat?
Starting point is 00:23:47 Right. Whoa. Well, LeBron to the Heat is... That's not happening. We're talking about Khalil Ware, though. I mean, he responded last night, 21 and 15. I mean... Many are saying.
Starting point is 00:23:57 To Billy's point, this LeBron to the Heat thing is like really manufactured by people that are just looking at numbers and trying to make it work, but I mean LeBron's at the Cavs facility, you know? There's very clearly, and yesterday he was congratulating Brandon Weems, he is openly flirting with Cleveland. It seems like that's the move and we're just trying to get in the conversation almost to
Starting point is 00:24:22 a sad point. It's pandering by the media and I hate to say that. Look, a couple of months ago at the onset of summer I wrote a column with the names Durant and Yannis in the headline so I'm not above pandering but at this point when you say LeBron to the heat question mark it seems so preposterous that I don't even know if it should be lent credence Okay, it is delightful though as we wonder still about his options or lack of options but to to Billy's point though the all-star game and
Starting point is 00:24:56 Shane Gillis, he made me laugh because he's gonna do the ESPYs here and he's pretty self-aware and He's gonna do the ESPYs here, and he's pretty self-aware, and he says that he hasn't done very much prep, but he just laughed to himself realizing how funny it is him in a tuxedo just walking across a big stage. He's like, that's going to be so awkward as someone who's not terribly comfortable in his own body.
Starting point is 00:25:20 He's gonna be walking in front of athletes, standing in front of them, and he doesn't know how to make the walk on the stage without appearing to walk like a dork, because he walks like he walks. How long a walk is that going to be where he's going to do his move of moving his hands to the side before he lands in a nervous place performing before athletes he respects? I caught up on the dialogue around it. I was surprised at your take that he might be afraid to go at athletes because he reveres them so much.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Billy was smart to point out. The Saban, the Indiana, the Alabama Jones line made that so wonderfully awkward. I revisit that clip. I don't think Shane's gonna be scared one bit. Who's asking him to wear a tuxedo at the ESPYs? It's the ESPYs. I don't know why it is he was worried about just the walk
Starting point is 00:26:07 on the stage. He didn't seem terribly worried about the monologue because he's funny. Well, he's good at that. He's got writers. Well, it's hard. It's a hard thing to be good at. 10 minutes funny, lonely on a stage.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Most people aren't brave enough to do that, right? Stand-up comedians are pretty good at it. Yeah, it's kind of his job. Yeah, and so he's gotta get out there there and perform there is pressure on it, right? We haven't seen Chris Rock since that Netflix special like there's pressure on doing that. It's not the easiest thing in the world I don't think it's cuz of pressure I think Chris Rock just got paid and now he doesn't need to go around doing all this stuff and you're interested in the ESPYs You're going to be okay. So you brought it up to just get us off LeBron
Starting point is 00:26:44 Interested in the ESPYs you're going to be okay. So you brought it up to just get us off LeBron I will admit I haven't voted on the ESPYs yet have polls closed yet Cuz I can vote live now on air if you guys would like we can make it a poll thing or you guys can do It together you guys want to vote for the ESPYs together I remember like as a youth going to like McDonald's or Burger King or whatever voting for the Nickelodeon kids choice awards Going to the all-star voting for the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards, going to the All-Star, or voting for the All-Star game at stadiums, voting for the ESPYs. It used to be so much fun.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Now elections are all about politics. People love voting, don't they? There was something cool about going to a ballpark and getting the paper ballot. That's your take, people love voting? No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that people love voting. They don't vote when we can't anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:26 They oddly did in 2020, look into that. I don't know why you would look into a camera in 2025 and say people love voting. They love voting. There's no statistical proof of what you're saying. Love Island got a ton of votes. A meaningless vote, how about this? People love just like, oh two options,
Starting point is 00:27:46 what are like chocolate or vanilla? Yeah, damn it. That's what the ESPYs live on. They have 19 categories and they allow you to vote. And all of a sudden you're voting for, you know, a guy riding a bicycle, four options. You've never heard of any of them. You're picking the name you hate the least
Starting point is 00:28:02 and people love voting. I stand by it. Put it on the poll, Juju. Do people like voting on polls at LeBataar's show? You can still vote on the SBs today. I'm on the website right now. If you guys have 18 categories, you want to do this real quick. Best male athletes, Saquon, Josh Allen, SGA or Otani.
Starting point is 00:28:20 What do you think? I went Saquon. Yeah, it's great here. Voted for him. Yeah. Otani. Voting hasn't closed. They're still taking votes. No, whatever you think. Saquon. I went Saquon, yeah. Great year. Voted for him, yep. It's not, voting hasn't closed? They're still taking votes? No, that is crazy. It's like suey voting.
Starting point is 00:28:29 One in? If you assume, yes. All right, well, I was delighted. If you guys could, I don't know if they take any right-ins or if you could foul up that vote at all by just voting for things that shouldn't be winning. Right-ins. I really enjoyed the other day watching a video
Starting point is 00:28:43 because, well, I don't love voting the way that you do. I will watch lists on video if you give me the moments of the last decade. And I was watching a video the other day of the top 10 moments in sports of the last decade. They were all great, they were all moving, and right in the middle of it, Bartolo Colon hitting a home run.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And it was one of the top 10 moments, and I'm like, that's a moving, and right in the middle of it, Bartolo Colon hitting a home run. And it was one of the top 10 moments, and I'm like, that's a well-made list. That belongs in there. Yes, and so I'm hoping. Not number 10, like in the middle. Yes, right in the middle was like number six, and I'm like, that's where it should be.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yes, it was. Maybe slightly higher. It was the first home run, it was a big fat guy running around the bases that would make fun for a few years for being a big fat guy. PSA, if you hit skip SB voting because you want to go back you're thinking about it. You can't go back I now am no longer eligible to vote for best male athlete Billy I was remiss yesterday that you were not here because I have fallen into an algorithm And I don't know if this is happened to you uh... where jose can say come material just continues to
Starting point is 00:29:49 end up in my feed and i can't stop watching it even though it's uh... it makes some of it makes me sad and some of its great and funny and we were talking yesterday just about the fact that how rare it is for cuban meathead to rise to the top of sports, how difficult it is to explain what Jose Canseco is to a generation of children who would have no idea what it is to have a Cuban superhero cartoon meathead,
Starting point is 00:30:18 not grown up, never grown up, still not grown up. Is that my elementary school's fair one year. Was he? Yeah, you pay for an autograph of Jose Canseco. Was it Ozzy? We didn't pay for it. It was pricey, it was like $40 for Jose Canseco. Do you know if it was actually Jose or he sent it to you?
Starting point is 00:30:35 You never know, Mike. I don't think I was there the day that it happened. It was too much of a thing. And it was right by the old Jose Canseco street before they took that down and they renamed it Ram Road. Yeah. In disgrace. He it Ram Road. Yeah. In disgrace. He had a street.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah, he did have a street. Some of these categories I think are created just to give specific people awards. Like best record breaking performance, Kevin Durant, US Olympic basketball all time scorer. Please. Why would I vote for that? Over Ovechkin, NHL all timetime goals leader, Kaitlyn Clark WNBA
Starting point is 00:31:06 single game assist leader, single season assist leader. That would be wild if a single game assist beat Ovechkin. Let's do that. What I'm saying is let's see if our people can go and contaminate the vote. No, but that would be great. If indeed in a small category where there's not a lot of voting, if our listeners can affect the vote, we can have a Louis Brinson moment. Is this like the VMAs where they just award whoever shows up? We don't know enough about it, so probably.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah, we think so. It certainly improves your chances. But yeah, that'd be great. Let's vote for Kevin Durand over a guy breaking a Gretzky record, Don Breakable. Don LeBretard. You are a fool. You're nobody. You are a fool. You're nobody.
Starting point is 00:31:45 You are an infant. You have no thick skin. I literally put together a freaking stage for your toenail. I am your career right now, pal. Look at me. I am your career. Stugats. You have messed with me, David.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And now you're messing with me and I'm more dangerous pal This is the done libertar show with the stugats Forgive me, I want to get to something, but it's now the second time in a couple of weeks we've mentioned the Louis Brinson stuff and I don't know if the audience knows all the details there and I know I don't know all the details there because I think you guys got in trouble with people at ESPN because we, I think we actually affected the voting one year and we were going to get Louis Brinson in the All-Star game until somebody in the Commissioner's office came sniffing around like we can't have that happen and then in the shadows, I'm going to hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Mm-hmm. Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. What happened there? What happened? What's the Louis Brinson situation? What's the truth? Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. What happened there? What happened? What's the Louis Brinson situation?
Starting point is 00:33:08 What's the truth? He's a podcast now. He does. Really? Yeah. Huh. Interesting. Sweet Lou.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Nice. What's the truth about the Louis Brinson thing? I don't know what happened there. We started voting for him. We were asking because you could vote for the All-Star game. So we wanted to vote for Louis Brinson who the Marlins got in the trade for Kristen Yelich who went on to win the MVP that season and he was not having an all-star. He was under 200 he was hitting under 200 a time when no one was
Starting point is 00:33:35 doing that that was back before baseball changed and it was everybody. Well some say that you know he was he was a pioneer in that sense, where he didn't worry about the batting average. Ahead of his time. Granted, he didn't have the homers to pick it up either. Worry about the power either. The joke was we were gonna get Lewis Brinson in the All-Star game, because he had the lowest batting average in the league
Starting point is 00:33:57 and clearly didn't belong in the All-Star game. No, it was just kind of like, I mean, yeah, that was kind of what it was. But also the NHL, the season before, had done a similar thing, so mean yeah, that's kind of what it was. But also like the NHL, like the season before, had done a similar thing, so we thought, why can't we do this with Amarlin at the All-Star game and see if we can get him in and get the most votes? And then it became somewhat of a movement
Starting point is 00:34:15 and people around the country were taking Louis Brinson All-Star game signs to the games and sending us pictures. And he never showed up anywhere in the voting and we would do it and honestly, one of my largest professional regrets is that whole thing. But we were doing that and then we kept wondering every time the ballots would come out, why are we not seeing him anywhere?
Starting point is 00:34:39 We know people are actually doing this and how many people are actually voting for the MLB All-Star game in the year of our Lord 2018 so we thought that we didn't mean just show up in the top that was suspicious how we didn't show up anywhere and Then we started reading like the fine print on the rules and regulations And it said that the Commissioner's office can throw out any votes that they deem whatever It was basically like we can consider any votes we want and throw out any votes We don't want and then we read that on air and then we got a,
Starting point is 00:35:07 okay, we're done playing with this now on ESPN radio. Thank you. It was a fun while it lasted, but no more mentions of that. Because I don't know if you remember, Dan, we had a couple months prior to that, an interview with Rob Manford, the commissioner of baseball, that did not go well. So after that, they then did not want us to follow that up
Starting point is 00:35:26 with accusing the commissioner's office of potentially throwing out votes in the All-Star game ballots. Baseball has to protect the mighty integrity of its game. That's why they just let in a guy who's played five games into the All-Star game. Five career games. I'm not gonna be deposed.
Starting point is 00:35:42 The worst interview a professional sports commissioner has ever done. I'd like to get to Billy's top five professional regrets. He wasn't entirely to blame for that. Same. Vince McMahon almost killed Bob Casas one time. Top five professional regrets. I didn't realize that that was one of them.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I would love to dig around until you and I would do dueling top five professional regrets. Not top five, it's one of my largest professional regrets. Just because I didn't consider the fact that there was a human being on the other side of this stunt. Right, we never really got full buy-in from Louis Brinson. Well, this is where Billy felt the worst, right?
Starting point is 00:36:18 Because Brinson was hitting 168, and then at the time, this is the part, as I recall, that got Billy to say, you know what, this isn't very nice, what I've done here. It's when he was quoted as saying, I appreciate the support, guys, but y'all go vote for JT Real Muto or Starlin Castro. Someone who deserves it. Luckily, we could vote for both of them.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah, you could vote for all of them. They're different positions. Yes, but he then said, I appreciate the love. I haven't done my job. And it was that last sentence that Billy was like, OK. I was checking in from afar. I would ask reporters that were in the locker room, like, how's this going over?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah, he didn't think it was funny. No, they were like, I don't think he's aware enough to realize. It's like, OK, that's not nice to say, but now I don't feel as bad. Yes, well, but that attitude, yes, when I was in Major League Clubhouses a long time ago and i would stare at renee latchman after writing a column questioning all of his decisions in the fifth inning
Starting point is 00:37:12 latch and he would storm across clubhouse uh... and and be yelling at me because he's like you don't take any of this seriously and i'm looking at him like i'm not going to run to where uh... And I'm looking at him and I'm like, you're in your underwear. Like, there's a certain respect that baseball has for baseball that we don't have for baseball. I mean, it all worked out in the end. Louis Brinson now, successful podcaster with a very real podcast. Listen up, time to think fast. Is this a real or fake podcast?
Starting point is 00:37:43 All right, who are we playing the game with? Is this with Cody? Who are the participants? Ah, you guys figure it out. You just weigh in. First one, Papa Squad with Jonathan LaCroix. Papa Squad? I would say no, it's too brilliant.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Too good a name. Papa Squad with former outspoken catcher, Jonathan LaCroix. Such a good idea. Who were you doing there? That was just a helpful tip for the audience. Sometimes I read the podcast bios. Can I hear it again? Papa Squat with Jonathan LaCroix.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. Real. No, no. It's fake. Oh my God. Yeah, fake. Oh my god. Yeah, right. With Winky Wright. Yes. Who's Winky Wright? Boxer from the early 2000s. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I say yes. What's the name? Yeah, right. With Winky Wright. You're gonna ask them to repeat it every time? I say it's real. What are you doing? Stugats, what are you doing? I just need to hear it again. No, but we're typing while he was talking. Yeah, right up wiki rights I mean there yeah comma right, but it's his last name. No, that's not that's not a nick writes 50 podcasts That is a fake podcast. Oh
Starting point is 00:38:57 Too bad winky slab lab with Dallas Braden with Dallas Braden Slab lab with Dallas Brady playing percentages one of these has to be real. I'm gonna say it's real You think a group of people got together in a marketing room and they're like, what do we call the mound? What do we call it? We want to teach people about the mountain the slab what rhymes with slab slab lab It's real yeah slab lab with Dallas Braden Know your podcast
Starting point is 00:39:38 Ruffhausen with Kelvin Gastelum Wow Can I hear it again Ruffuffhausen with Kelvin Gastelum. This isn't a spelling bee. Can I hear it again? No, I say no. Fake pod. Real pod? No. Fake pod.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Oh. Seaball. Get ball. With David Pollock. That's rising. Yes. Seaball. Get ball is rising. That is a real Yes. Seaball get ball is rising. That is a real pod.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Dan's all over these charts trying to win at this game. I don't know if it's because he owns a media business or he wants to win. I've been studying him. What's next? Let me see if I got a Papa Squad. The more you know with Al Groh. It should be.
Starting point is 00:40:21 See, that should be. I'd listen to it. No, you would not. Al Groh, one of the great boring interviews of all time, you would listen to it. He grows on you. Damn, that should have been the fake name. It's fake.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Al Groh's not podcasting. He grows on you with Al Groh. It's absolutely something I'd be more interested in. Can you imagine him installing a podcast mic? Locally here, the controversial story that I wanted to get to that really celebrates one of the great South Florida sports careers of all time. Teddy Bridgewater, what he has accomplished from Miami's streets in 15 years and Miramar's streets. What he has accomplished in the pros was impressive enough just getting to the pros
Starting point is 00:41:13 and being one of the few people allowed to play quarterback. But then coming here locally becoming a state champion football coach and now after he's left being suspended being suspended for an investigation of you know he evidently was using some of his wealth and helping out the kids and won the state championship last year yeah it's like this is the rare instance I mean you get so few of these where an athlete is getting suspended and everyone is siding with the athlete. Where Teddy Bridgewater's like, I'll take my suspension. You guys don't realize the I don't work there anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:50 You can't suspend me. And also, I did a nice thing for people because I'm rich. So he was a volunteer coach, so he didn't get a salary. And the suspension, I believe, is for improper benefits, which sounds, you know, not great until you see what the improper benefits were and according to Jordan Schultz Bridgewater personally covered $14,000 for training camp $9,500 for team pride sets $2,000 a week for pregame meals $1,300 a week for recovery $700 a week for Ubers and more and that's what
Starting point is 00:42:21 he is being suspended for. Yeah he ran a football factory and won the state championship because he came out of the huddle as a professional quarterback Ubers and more and that's what he is being suspended for. Yeah, he ran a football factory and won the state championship because he came out of the huddle as a professional quarterback with millions and decided to run a little local team to the state championship. And he didn't take a salary. I mean.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Little local team. The ragtag Northwestern. They're better than the Jets, I mean. But like him, he was like talked about as the head coach of the team. Like I would hear Big Dog talking on the way in. No, no, he's a volunteer. How the girls treating you?
Starting point is 00:42:48 A technicality, where it's just like, he is the head coach, but technically I'm a volunteer. You gotta work on that rusty Big Dog. How the late's treating you? Yes. Always the first question. Teddy Bridgewater, I know that Stugats was in Tahoe telling Kachuk that he's on the Mount the mount rushmore i don't think anybody's gonna
Starting point is 00:43:06 put bridgewater on the mount rushmore but in terms of south florida athletes who have had a long and distinguished career that has given south florida pride uh... i ask you this question uh... locally doesn't sell florida take more pride in teddy bridgewater than in the more jackson he sees more miami he's he's seen as more local uh... lamar jackson was was uh... palm beach right like boka or uh... or anybody might not as intended doesn't teddy bridgewater represents
Starting point is 00:43:36 south florida when i think of greatest athletes in the history of south florida okay just law that conseco's in their somewhere i don't know who the top four would be for you guys, but I'm talking about people who grew up here and then wrote like the Venus and Serena Williams. At Class Act, there's a pretty wide gulf between the top tier and Teddy Bridgewater. He's not even Udonis Haslam level,
Starting point is 00:43:57 because Udonis, when he was a pro, he did it here too in the same community. But that being said, what Teddy did with Northwestern last year, while he was a face of that program leaving remember he had opportunities he did try to ring chase a little bit there with the Detroit Lions but he had suitors still in the NFL and he wanted to give back to his high school program and I think over time if he remains down here coaching in the local
Starting point is 00:44:22 ranks his legacy will only grow. How's this story going to get corrupted in coming days though? Is someone going to say no he was buying players? Like how is this? That's probably I mean it can be that's why he's being suspended. This is a perk. Keep in mind as of last year in this state high school athletes can receive NIL money. The state legalized that so there are more proper ways to make sure some of your athletes at your high school programs get financially compensated northwest and should build a statue of this guy not suspend them yet promote them yes don staley shouldn't get a statue but i
Starting point is 00:44:58 tedy bridgewater it's a local statue where there are local statues and national statues to different's a different statue. Now we want statues. Teddy deserves a statue right in front of the school. Now, while this is obviously awesome that he's doing it for these kids, it is not fair to other schools, right? That one school can have somebody with a lot of money. What, that they have a coach that's willing to coach for free and use his money to make the team better?
Starting point is 00:45:24 I wish every school had a Teddy Bridgewater. I'm not anti what he's doing, but I do get the aspect of, this is not, like we don't have this, like if I'm another school that doesn't have a former NFL quarterback as my coach. How will local South Florida High School football programs be able to compete
Starting point is 00:45:38 with this ragtag Northwestern program?

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