The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Littering Is An Outdoor Activity
Episode Date: October 29, 2024Today's Cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Lucy, Billy, Mike, Jess. Jessica is radiant after her Pittsburgh Steelers scored another big win in primetime over the New York Giants. How does one butt cheek equal... two feet but one foot landing twice does not equal two feet? Chris and the show put a curse on the Dolphins and Chris is here to apologize for it, as well as defend himself for getting caught littering in the stairway outside the studio. Can you litter inside? Plus, we further discuss Tony Hinchcliffe's comments at this past weekend's Trump rally inside Madison Square Garden, the new strategy comedians are taking to grow their audiences and how politicians are growing their platform on podcasts that are popular with specific audiences. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Greg Cody is upset that he's not here today. He wanted to be here today and evidently,
for reasons I don't totally understand,
he's not here today and blaming us.
He should be upset, it's his day.
Why is he blaming me?
He should blame you.
Well, I think he's blaming everybody.
He's blaming the show in general.
He wanted to be here for some reason
when Tim Walz joins us.
And I haven't seen all of the commentary
on us announcing that Tim Walz is gonna join us at 10.30,
but I've asked them to print out a handful of comments.
Have you guys seen anything?
Because I imagine it's very negative.
Anything that gets thrown as chum in the water,
I just imagine us announcing that we're talking
to a politician
is going to be met very poorly.
I haven't seen it because I'm actively trying
to stay away from it, so I'll step out.
Somebody writes in, yuck, unsubscribe,
I feared Libertard would ruin this show for me someday.
I wonder what down the middle Chris Cody
thinks about all this.
I was just gonna say, there have to be
some down the middle people out there
that are just pretty even keeled about it.
I do find it pretty interesting
that this is the bridge too far.
Hey, I've rocked with ya for all these years
throughout the pirate ship and everything like that,
but I'm beginning to see the seeds
of your political leanings.
Was Greg told he couldn't come in for it?
Like, what's he mad about?
We don't trust Greg, I mean.
We moved him as just a today's a busy day, hectic day, we'll talk to you on Wednesday
kind of thing.
Wow.
Insulting.
I'd ease it out if I was here.
Journalist.
Many people are writing in, the theme that seems to be most prevalent is some form of
I'll be here just to see how Dan can make this as awkward as possible.
Everyone is predicting awkward. What Big Poppa writes in, what's the over-under time on Dan making the interview awkward?
Chief Sakif writes, Dan's gonna ask the most awkward questions of all time to stop the interview in its tracks and Stu is gonna follow up
with a top five list of athlete names that can note governorship. Oh, I like that. I think that's a little hard. I don't think you're going to be able to come
up with five of them there. Ron Washington.
I mean, somebody like that list, a governor. Yes. Washington, a governor. Yeah, that's,
you know, it's a stretch. He felt pretty good about, you know, he wanted to counter.
I said top five governors is gonna be hard
and he came up with Ron Washington
and was proud of himself.
Everybody kind of winced.
Somebody writes in, bleep you and your show.
Just a real clean anger that you have toward the show.
Are we looking forward to this?
Lucy, you don't look like you're looking forward to this. No, I'm looking forward to it. I just don't understand after 20 years why you still read the show. Are we looking forward to this? Lucy, you don't look like you're looking forward to this.
No, I'm looking forward to it.
I just don't understand after 20 years
why you still read the comments.
I feel like you should know better by now.
Lucy. Such a great point.
I had them collected for me for content purposes.
I don't know if it's fun content to read about
how everybody doesn't like us.
Mean tweets?
You don't think mean tweets are fun content?
They've been fun content since Twitter started.
I don't know about that.
I would prefer if everyone always only told me
how pretty and smart and funny I am.
Lucy, you're so pretty and smart and funny.
Oh my God, thank you.
Did someone tweet us that?
No.
There's gotta be some nice comments out there.
Good job by you guys having them on.
Nope.
Look how big this show has gotten. You have a person running for vice president coming on
That's what they should I told my wife last night. She's like cool
Yeah, I can't believe no one's in costume today, too
That's terrible work by me, that's just terrible. I can't believe nobody had a costume today
I wore long pants because of it
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DraftKings the crown is yours Stuugats at the risk of really upsetting the audience.
Mm-hmm.
We could start with the Florida Panthers winning five straight on the road.
Yes.
On the road.
One against the Rangers, yeah.
The defending Stanley Cup champions going on the road and just dragging everybody.
road and just dragging everybody. I've got a couple of things that I want to get to, including a beaming and radiant Jessica, who again fell asleep on a late Monday night just
listening to Stieler press conferences, just delighted with the glow of her telephone on
her face because the Steelers have some offense now and they can be dangerous if they have some offense.
Dan, I had to stay up late and hear what Mike Tomlin said about the challenge flag that he threw on the George Pickens touchdown
which should have counted because he got two feet inbounds. Well, the same foot twice,
I guess you could say. And then
replay assist was like, nope, not a touchdown.
You have to get two separate feet in bounds for it to count.
And Tomlin threw his challenge flag, and then the Steelers were not able to challenge it,
so they got a timeout taken away.
And in my head, like Tomlin, historically awful at challenging, like his challenge record
is terrible.
In my head, I'm like, oh God, here we go again.
Why are we challenging this?
This is, this, they already ruled that it wasn't a touchdown
in the press conference he said he didn't know replay assist had already
ruled that a touchdown
and that's why he threw the challenge flag and if he knew that replay assist
had already reviewed it he wouldn't have thrown the challenge like the steelers
just get
a timeout taken away on this
inexplicably because i guess the communication wasn't great with the
sideline and that's a huge bummer it ended up
not mattering sewersers won by eight.
Daniel Jones had a chance to take the Giants
down the field inside five minutes.
Best defensive player in the league, TJ Watt.
One on one with the Giants tackle,
makes a move, strip sack, fumble recovery.
Steelers get the ball, Giants get the ball back.
You're breathless, Jessica, I need you to slow down.
It's aggressive.
It's got Fisito and it's a lot.
Almost done, the Steelers end the game
with an interception
from Beanie Bishop, his third in two weeks,
third against the New York sports teams.
Game over.
So I don't blame you for not naming the tackle.
I think his name is Illuminaur.
Jermaine Illuminaur said before the game
that he wanted TJ Watt, man to man.
He didn't want any help and then he allows three sacks and a forced fumble,
and J.J. Watt is making fun of him on Twitter
for wanting T.J. Watt one on one.
But I think that there should be a new rule
that if you do get one foot in twice,
it should count as two feet.
I haven't seen a whole lot of it.
The play made no sense.
The way George Pickens flew from essentially
the middle of the end zone in terms of depth
out of the back of the end zone without his second foot
going down was crazy.
He was just shoved and went flying out of bounds.
I think it's more difficult to get the same foot in twice.
It should count as more.
But being able to push a receiver out of bounds
has been allowed for close to 20 years now,
and it's part of the game.
I would say let's not change the rules just
because George Pickens found the one loophole
to put the one foot down twice.
How about George Pickens find a way
to put the second foot down, and we don't have an issue?
It wasn't that he was pushed.
It was that he was being lifted, which I think
is like falls in the same category.
But it was really confusing. Like Billy said, he caught it like six yards
into the end zone, had two feet clearly down. How are we counting one ass cheek or one knee
as two feet, but two feet from the same leg don't count as two separate feet?
Then what do you do with a toe drag? What if one foot just drags five feet across no, it's gonna
And then it comes up and then drags again and you get two separate puffs of the black little pebbles coming up to drags To that's two drags. Yeah, that's what I was worried about
little pebbles coming up. Two drags.
That's two drags.
That's what I was worried about.
I love two drags.
If the Steelers do it, it should count as a touchdown, okay?
Because that first half was just field goal,
field goal, field goal.
We had like three touchdowns taken back.
It was a great catch by Pickens.
That spiritually should count as a catch.
And we need to have a rule in the NFL
where spiritually something is a catch.
Okay, I don't think of football and spirituality.
There's priests on the sidelines sometimes.
Why don't we have spiritual plays?
There was an immaculate reception once.
That's true.
Thank you, Mike.
Yep.
Greg's right.
My cap was there.
I want to address why Greg Cody is not here
and why Greg Cody is mad at us,
but I do wonder, Stu Gatz,
because we lived this in South Florida.
The fan base became so spoiled by Don Shula
that what I remember of the Jimmy Johnson
and Dave Wonstat days that had a lot of 10 and sixes
and 11 and fives in them,
one playoff victory in Seattle
when Jimmy Johnson would win a playoff game here and there,
what I remember after Shula is that the fan base
had grown so spoiled with Dolphin winning
that they assigned to those coaches mediocrity
as a label for going 11 and five and 10 and six.
The reason I bring this up
as it relates to the Steelers in Tomlin,
I think the national perception on the Steelers is
they're above average, always, you don't want to play them, but there's no chance they win the title.
And I wonder if Steelers fans land on Tomlin and say, I'm tired of being quote-unquote mediocre even though it's not actually
mediocre. Last year it kind of was. I think they were nine and eight and they
sort of stumble into the playoffs and then when they get to the playoffs you
don't fear them at all but if I give them just a little bit of offense they
end up becoming what I thought the Jets were gonna be this year with a little
bit of offense with a quarterback like Russell Wilson who's going he's an upgrade and Mike Tomlin actually did what very few coaches
do where he sits the quarterback who's doing a little bit of winning because he wants more
winning than that.
It's interesting because are you okay with the stability of having Mike Tomlin there
always having a winning season getting to the playoffs getting knocked out in the first
round Chris R. Chris Sims
tells me and Billy all the time
that he doesn't want the
Steelers in his playoffs
because they get blown out
first round it's over. Tomlin
is eight and ten in the post
season. So I do wonder if
Steeler fans are okay with
having a guy like Tomlin who's
good enough to get you to
playoffs but doesn't appear
good enough to get you to the
Super Bowl on a consistent basis.
He did win a Super Bowl,
and they were at a Super Bowl that they lost.
But Jessica, what is the feeling of Tomlin?
They've only had three coaches ever in Steelers history,
and I do wonder, I know, I saw in Miami,
people get tired of Jimmy Johnson and Juan Stitt
for not being Shula, and I do wonder
if getting to the playoffs every year
but not having a real chance is something
that Steelers fans think of as beneath them.
I don't think Steelers fans this year,
I mean it's early in the season,
I don't think they have no chance.
I think that the last two weeks have shown you
that the Steelers finally have a good passer
in Russell Wilson.
The play action pass game hasn't looked as good
since Ben Rother's burger before he blew out his elbow.
But I would say that, no,
I think there's definitely mixed feelings about Tomlin.
I think most fans really love him
and he's been a great head coach.
And the biggest issue with the Steelers
has been managing the offense
after their 19 year franchise quarterback player
got injured, was not as good, retired,
and then they drafted Kenny Pickett in the first round and that didn't work out. So like the quarterback issue has been the problem,
the offense has been the problem. I think the defense has been really good. They've
had Hall of Famers on this defense his entire time in Pittsburgh. And so yeah, the playoff
record stinks. I don't think anyone's happy with that. I don't think a single Steelers
fan is like, yeah, we're content losing in the wild card round to the Browns or to the Bills or the Chiefs.
But I think that hiring Arthur Smith,
getting a quarterback in there
that can actually open up the vertical pass game
has been a good sign that the Steelers
are willing to make necessary changes
to actually be competitive down the stretch.
Because sports fans don't like the aesthetics
of how they perform, they've just written them off and say fans don't like the aesthetics of how they perform.
They've just written them off and say
they don't have a chance.
But the Pittsburgh Steelers are elite
at forcing the other team to play
the style of game they want.
You highlighted some of those teams,
Bills, Chiefs, and the playoffs.
Those are difficult games.
If one or two things goes differently in the Bills game,
maybe they hang tight there.
I think they're elite at getting the other team to get sucked into the style that they're most suitable to win
at. So I'm not one of these people that don't think that the Pittsburgh Steelers have a
chance in that conference. I really don't, especially given what we've seen from the
Kansas City Chiefs in that offense, even though they're undefeated, showing that it has a
little bit more limitations than previous. I like the Steelers in a matchup to at least cover a number
and make that game close.
Also really, really tough division.
A division that Tomlins won many, many times.
And even in the last 10 years with like, you know,
2020 being a really weird season.
Like the Steelers have to play the Ravens twice every year.
They have to play Joe Burrow twice every year.
They have to play the Browns,
which were better when they had Baker Mayfield
and they lost that playoff game, obviously,
which I think was like a real sort of turning point
for Steelers fans.
You can't lose to the Browns in the playoffs.
But it's a tough division,
and I think their defense has been really, really good,
and a lot of people wanna see touchdowns
and high-flying offense, and like Mike said,
that's not really the game the Steelers
are trying to play right now,
but this season has looked a lot better in that regard
I'm just shocked that you said a couple minutes ago that there's mixed feelings on Tomlin
I've heard I know of his playoff struggles, but I've just thought of him as one of the most beloved
Coaches in all of football. That's he hasn't won a playoff game since 2000 at 16
Yeah, but he had some bad offense. I know but we're raving about Russell Wilson
He did against the Giants and the Jets.
Most coaches that go eight years
without winning a playoff game
don't get to keep their jobs, period.
Like McDaniel won't.
McDaniel will not keep his job
if he goes eight years without winning a playoff game.
Like that is a tribute to how the Pittsburgh Steelers
do business, that they believe in stability
and they believe in leadership that is consistent.
It's an unusual philosophy in sports.
I said mixed feelings, but I think most fans
do really like Tomlin.
So like, yes, there is doubt about the playoff record.
There is doubt about like, why didn't we fire Matt Canada
sooner, Steelers, what are we doing with that?
But I think fans are feeling
a lot better about the new GM. He's made some great moves and I think that like overall
Tomlin is pretty well liked.
We're doing a great job of getting the state of Pennsylvania in the tent. Keep it up.
Yes, that's all we're trying to do. Let's just.
You're not fooling me, Dan.
Let's cover. Let's cover only sports in the swing state.
Tomlin talk today, huh?
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Don LeBattard.
While I was gone, a third Zagacki was born,
and I think I heard, correct me if I'm wrong here,
Jeremy trying to partake in a fourth Zagacki,
and I am here for a future where I'm surrounded
by a chorus of clucking Zagacki.
Stugats.
You know what it means when you have four Zagackis dead.
You don't have one.
This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats.
["The Stugats"]
Let's get also to this great Cody video. Chris, what can you tell me?
You are back from doing debauchery things in Key West.
You apologize to the audience and to South Florida for our show's role in injuring all
of the Dolphins.
All of the Dolphins that we interviewed before the season got hurt before the halfway point of the season.
Zach Seeler, who hadn't missed a game in a couple of years,
got hurt in practice with a fractured orbital bone.
Out of nowhere, he was the last one to get knocked out
in terms of our haunted interviews.
That's crazy that that happened in practice
because the week before this one,
his helmet came off during a play
and a fumble he recovered I believe
and he was tackled without a helmet on
and he didn't fracture his orbital bone then
but in practice it happened somehow.
I've had like a roller coaster of emotions
with this injury when I first heard it
I'm like oh come on you gotta play.
Poked in the eye, not a big deal.
The more I really think about it,
that sounds really painful.
So the roller coaster's now back to me
respecting the injury.
That's nice of you, yeah.
You're of the belief that if 300 pound Zach Seeler,
who's a professional football player
and hasn't missed a game in two years,
misses a game with an eye poke that he's being soft.
I'm just saying, I've gotten poked in the eye before.
I miss like five minutes of TV.
Right, but the roller coaster.
I mean, you guys should not be allowed
to interview Dolphins players next year.
That's fair. Anyone really.
Who did you interview from the Heat?
Like that's also something to keep an eye on.
This is a bad situation.
What's a good thing to keep an eye on?
When that ever runs,
because everybody interviewed a bunch of people at the Heat
and I still haven't seen any of that video.
That's why we're not airing it.
We don't want Bam to get hurt.
It's actually a heady play by us.
The haunting, you're afraid that the curse is such that we.
Jaime Jaquez, like key players, okay?
And we never ran any of it.
Out of safety.
I haven't seen any of it.
It's because our show is haunted.
Thank you, Chris, for looking out
for the local teams of all kinds.
I am now told by video that we do not have
the Greg Cody video where he complains
about why he's not on the show today.
It's a slow burn, we'll have it in a minute.
This is good, this is good.
Before we have on the vice presidential candidate,
it's good to have a bunch of technical issues.
Yeah, I know that, no, I'm not sure about that
is the short answer.
So Greg is, we did Greg dirty
because I did a little digging.
His book comes out today.
So on the day of the release of his book,
we told him don't come in to promote
the release of your book.
I need to get more information on this.
Let's go to the video now of Greg Cody
where he is promoting his own book, which is out today.
So you can now get Back in My Day.
He does more Back in My Days for profit over there
than he does paid here to do Back in My Days.
It's weird.
Well, bring him in on a Tuesday.
I mean, we're crying out loud.
It is strange that Greg Cody on the side
creates another profit pattern for himself
doing the thing that he refuses to do here.
When's the last time he refuses to do here.
When's the last time he did a back in my day here,
a fresh back in my day?
Has it been?
The recent fresh ones have been from the book.
So it's like an actual fresh one?
Right. It's been a while.
Let's play this video of Greg Cody
complaining about not being in today.
He will be in tomorrow.
Is he coughing? Just coughing in the background? He will be in tomorrow. A couple seconds of dead air.
Just coughing in the background.
This is all he wanted to do today.
Longest slow build ever.
Here we go.
All right, here it is.
Hello everyone.
Greg. I'm up.
Greg, I told you I couldn't see your face.
Wasn't so hard.
Okay.
Hey everybody. You know what day it is? I'm okay. I told you I couldn't see your face Okay
You know what day it is
It's back in my day
It's Tuesday October 29th
drop date
For the back in my day book. It's out today. You can hold it in your hands
You don't have to pre-order it like you have and thanks to those who have you can order it today and hold it in your hands. You don't have to pre-order it like you have and thanks to those who have,
you can order it today and hold it in your hands.
Go to Amazon. Go to your local bookstore. Whatever you have to do, it's out today.
I was hoping, it's Tuesday, right? I was hoping to be on the Levitard show to be able to promote the book,
but I couldn't because they had an excuse why I couldn't be on Tuesday.
I had to be on Wednesday.
Cockamamie excuse. They had Tim Walz on, the vice presidential candidate, okay?
Not even a presidential candidate, but they bumped me, okay?
Okay, they bumped me. So they bumped me so we're doing
the best we can we're recording our own professionally directed video here
because what day is it it's back in my day that kind of thing
was that jumping Charlie clackety clackens on the floor? Classic Charlie, yeah.
Put it on the poll at LeBotardShow,
over, under, on the age of a person
who uses the word cockamamie.
100?
Over or under?
That was a very slow video from Greg Cody.
For the people, for the audio people,
you gotta watch it because the lighting couldn't be worse.
It's jaundice.
It's a delight to look at.
The video is jaundice.
Not Greg, the video.
No, all of it.
Everything in the video, including the book.
The book is the color of unbrushed teeth.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Lucy, I don't believe that you and Jessica
were here last week because for as much as we make fun
of Greg Cody, Chris Cody hasn't fallen that far from the rotten tree and now that he's back after five days of doing
God knows what in Key West, I don't believe that he, Lucy or Jessica are
aware of the i-team investigation that our show did that shames Chris Cody. Do
you know anything about this, Lucy?
No, I do not. I don't live here,
so I definitely wasn't here last week.
Okay, I don't know if Chris knows either,
but please put a close-up on his face right now
so that we can see the twitching begin.
Jessica, you and I were talking just before the show,
and you were saying that you often use that staircase
that is in a new building that is a secret route
where we thought we're the only ones who go
and use that staircase, that there's no one else using it.
I thought so until a few months ago,
this like venti Starbucks cup showed up
and I've just been monitoring the progression of it
getting more and more disgusting and moldy
over the last few months.
But you're right, Dan, I don't know anything about this.
By I-team, do you mean Magnum PI?
I do not mean, I mean Columbo.
Columbo leads our investigative effort.
Chris, you're a litterer.
We have found an accurate.
People were tweeting me that all weekend,
and I was just like, who saw me litter in the keys?
Well, that is-
Wait, wait, in the keys?
No, I didn't litter in the keys. I was just like, who saw me litter in the keys? Well, that is- Wait, in the keys? No, I didn't litter in the keys.
I was just like thinking, did I?
Because I was like, why am I getting a random tweet?
No, Chris, that's disgusting.
First of all, that's inside.
That's not littering.
So it doesn't count.
Yeah, not littering.
Inside doesn't count.
It has to be outside to be littering.
He just threw garbage anywhere inside.
It's not littering.
No, first of all, that actually,
the story behind that was one day I was leaving
and it was pouring.
And I was like, okay, I don't want, like, I have a cup.
So I put the cup down and then a couple days later
I saw it started like growing something in it.
And I was like, let's see where this goes.
So now I'm just gonna leave it here and.
You were doing a science experiment
inside the stairwell at our workplace?
I was like staring at it, I was like, is that dirt?
I'm like, oh, that's, there's mold.
There was mold on a different cup.
This isn't the cup that's got mold on it
I don't understand using the staircase as a garbage
Well, there's no garbage down there and I was it was raining and it's inside it was that's not littering
What is the rain?
He is right about littering you have to do it out, but it was there for several days
Yeah, he said it wasn't raining
But you refused to throw it away because you realized that there was mold growing inside of it, and then science was your higher point.
Let's see where it goes.
Let's see where this takes us.
Who did you think was gonna clean up after you?
I imagine somebody would clean that stairwell at some point.
Mean.
That staircase is disgusting.
It's very dusty.
It's new!
We can't make that a littering mess, but I do want to talk about the general
rules that are being applied here. Kent, put it on the poll, please Juju, at Levitard Show.
Can you litter indoors? Because- He can't do it, man. I just did an image
search on Google and every single picture is people littering outside. It's outside.
It's an outdoor activity.
I wish Greg was here because I would like to ask Chris who raised you and then interrogate Greg about this.
Very, like I grew up, I don't litter, like outside.
I don't.
Then you don't litter.
I have not thrown something outside my window
probably since I was like 16.
Good boy.
When it was an egg.
Chris, I'm not even kidding.
Like I didn't know anything about this one.
I didn't know that that was your Starbucks cup
when I came in.
That was purely chance because this thing,
it's been so disgusting that I've started using
a different stairwell and taking the long way
out of the building because it's so gross.
I use that stairwell every day now to check up on it
and see how's it going.
How's the, did you guys moved it?
So now it's gone?
Somebody kicked it over and then it made a spilled mess
and it was even more disgusting.
Who would do that?
Yes.
Who would kick that over?
I'm mortified by all of it.
I think you guys are more feral than Wolverines.
I think it doesn't make any sense to me
that you guys would take a new staircase and filled it fill it with garbage
I'm looking at a definition here of litter trash
Trash trash such as paper cans bottles that is left lying in an open or public
Place okay go sit in the penalty the act of dropping trash on the ground in a public place
public stairwell. For ruining comedy.
I think Tony's better already.
You've been off for five days.
To be determined.
And you come back and you get back on the treadmill
and you can't speak and you litter
and you do science experiments in the disgusting stairwell.
It's not litter, I just read the devil.
It's a public space, it's a public stairwell.
Places.
That's a public space building.
That stairwell's public. The public never gathers public stairwell. That's a public space, Billy. That stairwell's public.
The public never gathers in that staircase.
This is a private building.
Yeah, in two minutes, yeah.
Fine, semantics, you're not a litterer,
you're just an unbearable slob.
Whatever, get out.
In Chris's defense, I walked on that stairwell
after the fact, because that day,
we had a lot of people complaining,
saying there's a lot of trash in that stairwell.
It's not just that, which I guess someone has done video of all the trash that's in the stairwell.
And now you're seeing all of the different things. So when you go out the door,
exactly. There's a corner where people just stacked cups,
which are very clearly from this office as well.
That's really bad. The Elsa treats us so well. This is a great new building.
Why are we doing this?
It's hard to fathom that these are all things that are free because we've got an
eating area where all the food is free and the result is people just gorge the
food and then dump the junk wherever it is that they want to that isn't a trash
can. It's only us. Like this cannot be anyone else because it's a
private stairwell. Like it's only us using that. I can't believe we're this
disgusting as a show.
I am speechless right now.
I should have expected that it was us,
but I'm still shocked, I'm sad, I'm disappointed.
What should we do to Chris?
I've got an idea.
I think he should do a show where he has to spend
the whole show picking up trash on the beach
and do phone ins from the beach.
And we should put him in like an orange jumpsuit
or something so that we make him a criminal.
Like we make him a slob criminal
and we punish and shame him publicly.
He didn't drop anything on the beach.
He dropped it in a stairwell.
Understood, but the punishment would be
to clean up the beach a little bit.
We should also clean up the stairwell
and also fix the light bulb that's been flickering
down there for the last few years. Yeah, and there's a light bulb that's been flickering down there for the last few years.
Yeah, and there's a light bulb that's been flickering
in my house too, on the subject.
Okay, this is not gonna make him your handyman.
He should clean up the trash in all of our private homes.
Yeah, he should cut my lawn.
Cause he didn't litter in public,
but he did leave trash in private.
That light feels like something out of a horror movie.
The flickering light in the stairwell.
It feels a bit haunted.
There's a worse one.
There's another stairwell that has,
it's a lot darker and has a flickering light,
which is the only source of light.
At least this one's flickering,
but there's other sources of light.
That one, that's the only source of light.
And sometimes weird music is playing in the stairwell.
I don't know where it's coming from,
whether it's above us or below us,
but weird music is playing as the lights are flickering.
And I said, you know what?
This stairwell, not for me.
Stop taking it.
I've heard that music too.
I'm pretty sure it's a 10-year-old girl singing
who died in 1798.
It's really haunting.
Lucy, how do you feel learning this about your colleagues?
Like I think there are times that you learn things
about people and certain defining facts
where you're like, hmm, think slightly less of you
than I did before.
Why do you think I left?
Because Chris is a litterer who's not a litterer
who's just the slob.
By the way, I saw like they showed the shot of that stairwell. There's a lot of shit from this office
That's down there. That isn't me. I believe it is you though. There's one with your name on it
So that's not fair
So you think I'm willing to be like this one cup is me but not like why would like you think this do you think?
This is shameful for the one cup that is you has your name on it. It'd be hard to deny
This is child's play of shame like when you guys first were like we're Chris's zoom in on I was like, oh my god
What do they know? This is nothing the weekend. I've had I was like, what do they know and this is what you guys have for me
I'm laughing
I agree with Chris there. I do believe that there's more than one person leaving trash and I don't use this office those brown cups
I use here for water. I never have exited these places with those brown cups
There was a Dunkin Donuts cup that had green mold on the corner that people thought was either you or your dad
It could be my dad. I mean what Chris is saying is you brought a knife to a gunfight
I mean well only because the person I'm fighting against can't be killed because they have no actual shame
like what I'm describing here is a level of carelessness
and inconsideration for others that would cause
the normal, the median human being shame.
But it's also kind of like the Zodiac Killer
killed someone and then there's a bunch of bodies
around the one that Zodiac Killer very clearly killed
and then the Zodiac Killer was like, what, me?
Why would you think I had anything to do
with the other murders?
There's only one with your name on it.
Like we can't put name on the Oreo cookies, rapper.
We think, I think they're all you.
I don't believe that we have a slew of people here
who are that kind of gross.
I mean, we have some pretty gross people here.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, maybe some pretty gross people,
but not a slew of them.
I do believe we have plenty. I think we have a slew. Okay, you guys pretty gross people, but not a slew of them. I do believe we have plenty.
I think we have a slew.
Okay, you guys disagree with me.
Have you ever seen a sink
after a lunch around here, Dan?
They don't know how to clean up after themselves.
It's one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.
It is like something that is between toddlers
and sort of feral ferrets.
Why the rain?
Why did the rain inspire you to leave the cup?
Because I didn't, there was little liquid left in it.
I don't want liquid getting in it.
I was kind of, and I was just done with it.
What?
Oh my God.
Still no clarity on the rain.
No, I mean, it's raining, it's pouring out.
It didn't give off walking around with a cup.
Chris, if you're gonna own it, just own it. You left the cup there. It's okay, I'm with you. It didn't give off walking around with a cup. Chris, if you're gonna own it, just own it.
You left the cup there.
It's okay, I'm with you.
It was raining that day though.
It's not a lie.
That is what happened.
But you didn't leave the cup there because of the rain.
You just left the cup there because you left the cup there.
I've walked out with cups many a times
and I either bring it in my car or throw it away.
I put it down because it was pouring.
That is why I did it.
Why wouldn't you just turn around
and throw it away in the office?
There's no garbage, that's a lot of stairs to walk.
We have garbage here.
No, I'm saying that's like a floor and a half.
He has to walk back up.
A floor and a half?
I mean, that's a lot.
Up's a lot harder than down.
It is, yeah.
A floor and a half is a lot of stairs.
Now people know we work on the first and a half floor.
Man, this is not, you guys,
this isn't doing anything right now for me.
Right. You're not even sweating, right? You guys are all, everyone's like, Dan's just like, I can't believe, it's not like you guys this isn't doing anything right now for me Like this is not even sweating right you guys are all everyone like dance
Just like I can't believe it's just like the audience is mortified by you like three people tweeted
Hey, go now everyone knows no and I'm telling them Barry Chris Cody
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This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugatz, do you know anything about the Kill Tony podcast? Do you know the name Tony Hinchcliffe
for any reason whatsoever?
I do not. Okay so there are a
group of comedians it's a rather large group that have been knighted by Joe
Rogan and Cat Williams and others object to the level of fame and power that they
have gotten because many people believe in the world of comedians that they have not earned through funny,
the top of the court jester rankings.
Cat Williams is one of the few
willing to actually put his name on it.
Everyone else is kind of afraid of doing this to them
because it's a powerful group of people
and Joe Rogan has assembled a monster power
to basically become what Johnny Carson used
to be on late night television. So very few people end up being critical of some
of the stuff that's happening even as it arrives at what felt like a modern-day
version of a Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden that Trump's entire crew
now doesn't know whether to double down or totally back away from because it was racist and at the center of the racism was Tony Hinchcliffe trying
to do a comedic set when surrounded by something that is otherwise pretty hateful.
And even RFK is walking away from that saying, wow, that was unfortunate doing that joke
at Puerto Rico's expense.
And Mike Ryan pointed out yesterday
that many of these guys are opportunists and profiteers.
There's a lane for Andrew Schultz.
I remember when we started during the pandemic,
Andrew Schultz was trying to reach out to figure out
how to do some of the stuff he has now done very well,
which is create a lane for his comedy that makes him sort of too dangerous for the mainstream.
And now next thing you know, he's laughing in Trump's face as Trump grants him an interview
and says to Andrew Schultz's face, I'm basically a truthful person.
And Andrew Schultz is just laughing at him.
Mark Maron, who is one of the wise old voices in comedy and does a really good job of pointing
out where anti-Semitism exists, writes on Twitter something that you have not seen a lot of comedians
brave enough to do because this is a powerful group of comedians and they
don't tend to attack in-house. He writes, the anti-woke flank of the new
fascism is being driven almost exclusively by comics, my peers. Whether
or not they are self-serving or true believers in the new fascism is
unimportant. They are of the movement.
Whether they see themselves as acolytes or just comics doesn't matter.
Whether they're driven by the idea that what they are fighting for is a free speech issue
or whether they are truly morally bankrupt racists doesn't matter.
They are part of the public face of a fascist political movement that seeks to destroy the
democratic idea.
When comedians with podcasts have shameless,
self-proclaimed white supremacists and fascists
on their show to joke around like they're just entertainers
or even just politicians,
all it does is humanize and normalize fascism.
When someone uses their platform for that reason,
they are facilitating anti-American sentiment
and promoting violent autocracy.
Very few comedians are willing to do this in-house
because of the fear that they have of other comedians.
This is one of the few who has the kinds of credentials
that nobody's gonna really go after his intellect.
It is a bit dangerous to war with Mark Maron
because he has his own power and he's the OG.
He was doing that stuff that they're doing now
before all of them were doing it.
He's the KG vet.
Yeah, he started doing a podcast in his garage.
It blew up.
It had an IFC spin-off, which was kind of borrowing
from the podcast and then scripted additionally.
Mark Maron's bang on there.
It's been my whole apprehension
with this whole recent thing of,
even our show has been very culpable in it,
putting these comedians on pedestals.
If Mussolini were around today,
he'd go on a podcast hosted by a fledgling comedian.
And that comedian would then go from clubs to theaters.
That's the grift.
And playing to the right
has opened up a whole new customer base.
In fact, you invoke Schultz.
Do you remember what Schultz was doing observationally
at the start of COVID?
I remember that he had a standup special
that other standups didn't think was a special
because it was very well written,
but he was doing it off of a prompter
and it was like minutes at a time on Netflix.
To me, I was introduced to him with those IG videos
when everybody was looking for content,
when everybody was looking for a voice,
he was kind of an equal opportunist,
but really more observational humor.
And then once lockdown stopped
and he started playing shows,
he just veered more and more right.
Even you, as you mentioned,
well, he laughed in Trump's face.
He loves that because the left has kind of seized on that.
If you've seen his promo since, he's still playing to that new base in Trump's face. He loves that because the left has kind of seized on that. If you've seen his promo since,
he's still playing to that new base that he's created.
A lot of these, and I happen to think he's talented,
but a lot of the comedians that have ascended
during this time playing to this new right-wing audience,
they're not the most talented people in the bunch.
A lot of them have failed.
Now, that's the story of stand-up comedy.
Sometimes it takes 20 years for guys to break. they're not the most talented people in the bunch. A lot of them have failed. Now that's the story of stand-up comedy.
Sometimes it takes 20 years for guys to break.
Mark Maron was a guy that broke because of a podcast
and wasn't because he played to a right-leaning base.
But I do think that we need to be discerning here.
They're looking to cultivate an audience
and go from clubs to theaters to arenas.
And it's all been fast-track.
They're all doing that though. They have gotten to to arenas, and it's all been fast-track. They're all doing that though.
They have gotten to the arenas.
They're long past clubs like this group of people.
Joe Rogan has a power base in Austin,
and I'm not kidding you when I say
he is the new knighter of comedians.
Other comedians look at the ones that he has knighted
and are afraid to say what Cat Williams says,
which is
some form of those guys aren't as funny as the guys that I respect as
Funny, but they are the ones profiting now and one is one of them is hingecliff who I don't know if you guys saw the
Reporting on this, but he actually took out. He was gonna call Kamala Harris
See you next Tuesday like it was taken out of his, his, he had workshopped some of the stuff in a New York
comedy club and that was too over the line.
And I think he complied on some stuff during the Tom Brady roast, which is a, is a, a
venue more appropriate for some of the stuff that he was trying.
But in this case, he was edited.
I can't even imagine what would have happened there if, but in this case he was edited. I can't even
imagine what would have happened there if he hadn't edited that one and he had just
thrown that in the middle of a rally that RFK is backing away from saying, look, that
was unfortunate that we did that kind of racism to Puerto Rico and Hispanics.
It's been an effective strategic marketing ploy by going to tastemaking podcasts
and normalizing the conversation
and let me crack open a seltzer with the Nelk Boys.
And it's just all part of their very effective strategy.
How can it be fascism if we're all laughing along?
This guy seems pretty cool.
How can he be a fascist?
He's just a standup comedian.
How can he be allowing this?
But if you put Stalin in a uniform in that day,
if there were podcasts around,
he'd be doing the same approach.
And it's a strategy, by the way,
that we're complicit too on the left side.
They'll go and call her daddy.
This is how you speak to specific bases.
But there is something really effective
about right-leaning
truth-tellers, independent thinkers on the right side in terms of
normalizing that conversation and Marc Maron totally nailed it on the head with. I saw John Stewart had a conversation that he was having recently about when he realized that one of his shows
was going to die at, I don't remember where it was,
shows was going to die at I don't remember where it was it was the early incarnation of one of his shows and one of the first skits had David Tell come
out as Hitler holding a bagel and coming out to just do the talk show circuit
there's a skit here of Stalin or Mussolini just going on a podcast and
like surrounded by commercial reads because of how we're
Normalizing some of this stuff. Can you explain though? Like what you mean by?
Kamala Harris going on call her daddy to talk about
Women's reproductive rights is similar to any of the stuff that we're talking about. Irrefutably the strategy is the same
Let me let me go on a podcast and speak to a specific base, and that gives me access, direct access to an audience.
You can certainly disagree with the message.
I don't think the messages are anything similar.
But no, the strategy in this whole new media world
is where they would go on the evening news.
And it's not to say that they're not still doing that.
They're really focusing their energy on podcasts.
And I would say the left
is probably a little late to the party.
She's also going on 60 minutes though
and doing mainstream media interviews.
Yeah, which I said, I don't understand
why we're seizing on this.
Like, yes, this is a campaign strategy
of the 21st century, but what I'm saying is
the conservatives saw this first
and they cornered the market on it
and they have the bigger podcast.
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