The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Littering Is An Outdoor Activity

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Today's Cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Lucy, Billy, Mike, Jess. Jessica is radiant after her Pittsburgh Steelers scored another big win in primetime over the New York Giants. How does one butt cheek equal... two feet but one foot landing twice does not equal two feet? Chris and the show put a curse on the Dolphins and Chris is here to apologize for it, as well as defend himself for getting caught littering in the stairway outside the studio. Can you litter inside? Plus, we further discuss Tony Hinchcliffe's comments at this past weekend's Trump rally inside Madison Square Garden, the new strategy comedians are taking to grow their audiences and how politicians are growing their platform on podcasts that are popular with specific audiences. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:51 He should be upset, it's his day. Why is he blaming me? He should blame you. Well, I think he's blaming everybody. He's blaming the show in general. He wanted to be here for some reason when Tim Walz joins us. And I haven't seen all of the commentary
Starting point is 00:02:08 on us announcing that Tim Walz is gonna join us at 10.30, but I've asked them to print out a handful of comments. Have you guys seen anything? Because I imagine it's very negative. Anything that gets thrown as chum in the water, I just imagine us announcing that we're talking to a politician is going to be met very poorly.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I haven't seen it because I'm actively trying to stay away from it, so I'll step out. Somebody writes in, yuck, unsubscribe, I feared Libertard would ruin this show for me someday. I wonder what down the middle Chris Cody thinks about all this. I was just gonna say, there have to be some down the middle people out there
Starting point is 00:02:45 that are just pretty even keeled about it. I do find it pretty interesting that this is the bridge too far. Hey, I've rocked with ya for all these years throughout the pirate ship and everything like that, but I'm beginning to see the seeds of your political leanings. Was Greg told he couldn't come in for it?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Like, what's he mad about? We don't trust Greg, I mean. We moved him as just a today's a busy day, hectic day, we'll talk to you on Wednesday kind of thing. Wow. Insulting. I'd ease it out if I was here. Journalist.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Many people are writing in, the theme that seems to be most prevalent is some form of I'll be here just to see how Dan can make this as awkward as possible. Everyone is predicting awkward. What Big Poppa writes in, what's the over-under time on Dan making the interview awkward? Chief Sakif writes, Dan's gonna ask the most awkward questions of all time to stop the interview in its tracks and Stu is gonna follow up with a top five list of athlete names that can note governorship. Oh, I like that. I think that's a little hard. I don't think you're going to be able to come up with five of them there. Ron Washington. I mean, somebody like that list, a governor. Yes. Washington, a governor. Yeah, that's, you know, it's a stretch. He felt pretty good about, you know, he wanted to counter.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I said top five governors is gonna be hard and he came up with Ron Washington and was proud of himself. Everybody kind of winced. Somebody writes in, bleep you and your show. Just a real clean anger that you have toward the show. Are we looking forward to this? Lucy, you don't look like you're looking forward to this. No, I'm looking forward to it. I just don't understand after 20 years why you still read the show. Are we looking forward to this? Lucy, you don't look like you're looking forward to this.
Starting point is 00:04:25 No, I'm looking forward to it. I just don't understand after 20 years why you still read the comments. I feel like you should know better by now. Lucy. Such a great point. I had them collected for me for content purposes. I don't know if it's fun content to read about how everybody doesn't like us.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Mean tweets? You don't think mean tweets are fun content? They've been fun content since Twitter started. I don't know about that. I would prefer if everyone always only told me how pretty and smart and funny I am. Lucy, you're so pretty and smart and funny. Oh my God, thank you.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Did someone tweet us that? No. There's gotta be some nice comments out there. Good job by you guys having them on. Nope. Look how big this show has gotten. You have a person running for vice president coming on That's what they should I told my wife last night. She's like cool Yeah, I can't believe no one's in costume today, too
Starting point is 00:05:20 That's terrible work by me, that's just terrible. I can't believe nobody had a costume today I wore long pants because of it This is the Don Leventor show with the StuGuts podcast Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show DraftKings the crown is yours Stuugats at the risk of really upsetting the audience. Mm-hmm. We could start with the Florida Panthers winning five straight on the road. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:53 On the road. One against the Rangers, yeah. The defending Stanley Cup champions going on the road and just dragging everybody. road and just dragging everybody. I've got a couple of things that I want to get to, including a beaming and radiant Jessica, who again fell asleep on a late Monday night just listening to Stieler press conferences, just delighted with the glow of her telephone on her face because the Steelers have some offense now and they can be dangerous if they have some offense. Dan, I had to stay up late and hear what Mike Tomlin said about the challenge flag that he threw on the George Pickens touchdown which should have counted because he got two feet inbounds. Well, the same foot twice,
Starting point is 00:06:38 I guess you could say. And then replay assist was like, nope, not a touchdown. You have to get two separate feet in bounds for it to count. And Tomlin threw his challenge flag, and then the Steelers were not able to challenge it, so they got a timeout taken away. And in my head, like Tomlin, historically awful at challenging, like his challenge record is terrible. In my head, I'm like, oh God, here we go again.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Why are we challenging this? This is, this, they already ruled that it wasn't a touchdown in the press conference he said he didn't know replay assist had already ruled that a touchdown and that's why he threw the challenge flag and if he knew that replay assist had already reviewed it he wouldn't have thrown the challenge like the steelers just get a timeout taken away on this
Starting point is 00:07:19 inexplicably because i guess the communication wasn't great with the sideline and that's a huge bummer it ended up not mattering sewersers won by eight. Daniel Jones had a chance to take the Giants down the field inside five minutes. Best defensive player in the league, TJ Watt. One on one with the Giants tackle, makes a move, strip sack, fumble recovery.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Steelers get the ball, Giants get the ball back. You're breathless, Jessica, I need you to slow down. It's aggressive. It's got Fisito and it's a lot. Almost done, the Steelers end the game with an interception from Beanie Bishop, his third in two weeks, third against the New York sports teams.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Game over. So I don't blame you for not naming the tackle. I think his name is Illuminaur. Jermaine Illuminaur said before the game that he wanted TJ Watt, man to man. He didn't want any help and then he allows three sacks and a forced fumble, and J.J. Watt is making fun of him on Twitter for wanting T.J. Watt one on one.
Starting point is 00:08:14 But I think that there should be a new rule that if you do get one foot in twice, it should count as two feet. I haven't seen a whole lot of it. The play made no sense. The way George Pickens flew from essentially the middle of the end zone in terms of depth out of the back of the end zone without his second foot
Starting point is 00:08:34 going down was crazy. He was just shoved and went flying out of bounds. I think it's more difficult to get the same foot in twice. It should count as more. But being able to push a receiver out of bounds has been allowed for close to 20 years now, and it's part of the game. I would say let's not change the rules just
Starting point is 00:08:52 because George Pickens found the one loophole to put the one foot down twice. How about George Pickens find a way to put the second foot down, and we don't have an issue? It wasn't that he was pushed. It was that he was being lifted, which I think is like falls in the same category. But it was really confusing. Like Billy said, he caught it like six yards
Starting point is 00:09:08 into the end zone, had two feet clearly down. How are we counting one ass cheek or one knee as two feet, but two feet from the same leg don't count as two separate feet? Then what do you do with a toe drag? What if one foot just drags five feet across no, it's gonna And then it comes up and then drags again and you get two separate puffs of the black little pebbles coming up to drags To that's two drags. Yeah, that's what I was worried about little pebbles coming up. Two drags. That's two drags. That's what I was worried about. I love two drags.
Starting point is 00:09:45 If the Steelers do it, it should count as a touchdown, okay? Because that first half was just field goal, field goal, field goal. We had like three touchdowns taken back. It was a great catch by Pickens. That spiritually should count as a catch. And we need to have a rule in the NFL where spiritually something is a catch.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Okay, I don't think of football and spirituality. There's priests on the sidelines sometimes. Why don't we have spiritual plays? There was an immaculate reception once. That's true. Thank you, Mike. Yep. Greg's right.
Starting point is 00:10:12 My cap was there. I want to address why Greg Cody is not here and why Greg Cody is mad at us, but I do wonder, Stu Gatz, because we lived this in South Florida. The fan base became so spoiled by Don Shula that what I remember of the Jimmy Johnson and Dave Wonstat days that had a lot of 10 and sixes
Starting point is 00:10:34 and 11 and fives in them, one playoff victory in Seattle when Jimmy Johnson would win a playoff game here and there, what I remember after Shula is that the fan base had grown so spoiled with Dolphin winning that they assigned to those coaches mediocrity as a label for going 11 and five and 10 and six. The reason I bring this up
Starting point is 00:11:00 as it relates to the Steelers in Tomlin, I think the national perception on the Steelers is they're above average, always, you don't want to play them, but there's no chance they win the title. And I wonder if Steelers fans land on Tomlin and say, I'm tired of being quote-unquote mediocre even though it's not actually mediocre. Last year it kind of was. I think they were nine and eight and they sort of stumble into the playoffs and then when they get to the playoffs you don't fear them at all but if I give them just a little bit of offense they end up becoming what I thought the Jets were gonna be this year with a little
Starting point is 00:11:42 bit of offense with a quarterback like Russell Wilson who's going he's an upgrade and Mike Tomlin actually did what very few coaches do where he sits the quarterback who's doing a little bit of winning because he wants more winning than that. It's interesting because are you okay with the stability of having Mike Tomlin there always having a winning season getting to the playoffs getting knocked out in the first round Chris R. Chris Sims tells me and Billy all the time that he doesn't want the
Starting point is 00:12:09 Steelers in his playoffs because they get blown out first round it's over. Tomlin is eight and ten in the post season. So I do wonder if Steeler fans are okay with having a guy like Tomlin who's good enough to get you to
Starting point is 00:12:21 playoffs but doesn't appear good enough to get you to the Super Bowl on a consistent basis. He did win a Super Bowl, and they were at a Super Bowl that they lost. But Jessica, what is the feeling of Tomlin? They've only had three coaches ever in Steelers history, and I do wonder, I know, I saw in Miami,
Starting point is 00:12:38 people get tired of Jimmy Johnson and Juan Stitt for not being Shula, and I do wonder if getting to the playoffs every year but not having a real chance is something that Steelers fans think of as beneath them. I don't think Steelers fans this year, I mean it's early in the season, I don't think they have no chance.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I think that the last two weeks have shown you that the Steelers finally have a good passer in Russell Wilson. The play action pass game hasn't looked as good since Ben Rother's burger before he blew out his elbow. But I would say that, no, I think there's definitely mixed feelings about Tomlin. I think most fans really love him
Starting point is 00:13:11 and he's been a great head coach. And the biggest issue with the Steelers has been managing the offense after their 19 year franchise quarterback player got injured, was not as good, retired, and then they drafted Kenny Pickett in the first round and that didn't work out. So like the quarterback issue has been the problem, the offense has been the problem. I think the defense has been really good. They've had Hall of Famers on this defense his entire time in Pittsburgh. And so yeah, the playoff
Starting point is 00:13:37 record stinks. I don't think anyone's happy with that. I don't think a single Steelers fan is like, yeah, we're content losing in the wild card round to the Browns or to the Bills or the Chiefs. But I think that hiring Arthur Smith, getting a quarterback in there that can actually open up the vertical pass game has been a good sign that the Steelers are willing to make necessary changes to actually be competitive down the stretch.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Because sports fans don't like the aesthetics of how they perform, they've just written them off and say fans don't like the aesthetics of how they perform. They've just written them off and say they don't have a chance. But the Pittsburgh Steelers are elite at forcing the other team to play the style of game they want. You highlighted some of those teams,
Starting point is 00:14:15 Bills, Chiefs, and the playoffs. Those are difficult games. If one or two things goes differently in the Bills game, maybe they hang tight there. I think they're elite at getting the other team to get sucked into the style that they're most suitable to win at. So I'm not one of these people that don't think that the Pittsburgh Steelers have a chance in that conference. I really don't, especially given what we've seen from the Kansas City Chiefs in that offense, even though they're undefeated, showing that it has a
Starting point is 00:14:40 little bit more limitations than previous. I like the Steelers in a matchup to at least cover a number and make that game close. Also really, really tough division. A division that Tomlins won many, many times. And even in the last 10 years with like, you know, 2020 being a really weird season. Like the Steelers have to play the Ravens twice every year. They have to play Joe Burrow twice every year.
Starting point is 00:15:01 They have to play the Browns, which were better when they had Baker Mayfield and they lost that playoff game, obviously, which I think was like a real sort of turning point for Steelers fans. You can't lose to the Browns in the playoffs. But it's a tough division, and I think their defense has been really, really good,
Starting point is 00:15:17 and a lot of people wanna see touchdowns and high-flying offense, and like Mike said, that's not really the game the Steelers are trying to play right now, but this season has looked a lot better in that regard I'm just shocked that you said a couple minutes ago that there's mixed feelings on Tomlin I've heard I know of his playoff struggles, but I've just thought of him as one of the most beloved Coaches in all of football. That's he hasn't won a playoff game since 2000 at 16
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah, but he had some bad offense. I know but we're raving about Russell Wilson He did against the Giants and the Jets. Most coaches that go eight years without winning a playoff game don't get to keep their jobs, period. Like McDaniel won't. McDaniel will not keep his job if he goes eight years without winning a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Like that is a tribute to how the Pittsburgh Steelers do business, that they believe in stability and they believe in leadership that is consistent. It's an unusual philosophy in sports. I said mixed feelings, but I think most fans do really like Tomlin. So like, yes, there is doubt about the playoff record. There is doubt about like, why didn't we fire Matt Canada
Starting point is 00:16:21 sooner, Steelers, what are we doing with that? But I think fans are feeling a lot better about the new GM. He's made some great moves and I think that like overall Tomlin is pretty well liked. We're doing a great job of getting the state of Pennsylvania in the tent. Keep it up. Yes, that's all we're trying to do. Let's just. You're not fooling me, Dan. Let's cover. Let's cover only sports in the swing state.
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Starting point is 00:17:46 Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co. slash bball. Don LeBattard. While I was gone, a third Zagacki was born, and I think I heard, correct me if I'm wrong here, Jeremy trying to partake in a fourth Zagacki, and I am here for a future where I'm surrounded
Starting point is 00:18:07 by a chorus of clucking Zagacki. Stugats. You know what it means when you have four Zagackis dead. You don't have one. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats"] Let's get also to this great Cody video. Chris, what can you tell me? You are back from doing debauchery things in Key West.
Starting point is 00:18:34 You apologize to the audience and to South Florida for our show's role in injuring all of the Dolphins. All of the Dolphins that we interviewed before the season got hurt before the halfway point of the season. Zach Seeler, who hadn't missed a game in a couple of years, got hurt in practice with a fractured orbital bone. Out of nowhere, he was the last one to get knocked out in terms of our haunted interviews. That's crazy that that happened in practice
Starting point is 00:19:01 because the week before this one, his helmet came off during a play and a fumble he recovered I believe and he was tackled without a helmet on and he didn't fracture his orbital bone then but in practice it happened somehow. I've had like a roller coaster of emotions with this injury when I first heard it
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm like oh come on you gotta play. Poked in the eye, not a big deal. The more I really think about it, that sounds really painful. So the roller coaster's now back to me respecting the injury. That's nice of you, yeah. You're of the belief that if 300 pound Zach Seeler,
Starting point is 00:19:32 who's a professional football player and hasn't missed a game in two years, misses a game with an eye poke that he's being soft. I'm just saying, I've gotten poked in the eye before. I miss like five minutes of TV. Right, but the roller coaster. I mean, you guys should not be allowed to interview Dolphins players next year.
Starting point is 00:19:49 That's fair. Anyone really. Who did you interview from the Heat? Like that's also something to keep an eye on. This is a bad situation. What's a good thing to keep an eye on? When that ever runs, because everybody interviewed a bunch of people at the Heat and I still haven't seen any of that video.
Starting point is 00:20:02 That's why we're not airing it. We don't want Bam to get hurt. It's actually a heady play by us. The haunting, you're afraid that the curse is such that we. Jaime Jaquez, like key players, okay? And we never ran any of it. Out of safety. I haven't seen any of it.
Starting point is 00:20:20 It's because our show is haunted. Thank you, Chris, for looking out for the local teams of all kinds. I am now told by video that we do not have the Greg Cody video where he complains about why he's not on the show today. It's a slow burn, we'll have it in a minute. This is good, this is good.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Before we have on the vice presidential candidate, it's good to have a bunch of technical issues. Yeah, I know that, no, I'm not sure about that is the short answer. So Greg is, we did Greg dirty because I did a little digging. His book comes out today. So on the day of the release of his book,
Starting point is 00:20:54 we told him don't come in to promote the release of your book. I need to get more information on this. Let's go to the video now of Greg Cody where he is promoting his own book, which is out today. So you can now get Back in My Day. He does more Back in My Days for profit over there than he does paid here to do Back in My Days.
Starting point is 00:21:13 It's weird. Well, bring him in on a Tuesday. I mean, we're crying out loud. It is strange that Greg Cody on the side creates another profit pattern for himself doing the thing that he refuses to do here. When's the last time he refuses to do here. When's the last time he did a back in my day here,
Starting point is 00:21:27 a fresh back in my day? Has it been? The recent fresh ones have been from the book. So it's like an actual fresh one? Right. It's been a while. Let's play this video of Greg Cody complaining about not being in today. He will be in tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Is he coughing? Just coughing in the background? He will be in tomorrow. A couple seconds of dead air. Just coughing in the background. This is all he wanted to do today. Longest slow build ever. Here we go. All right, here it is. Hello everyone. Greg. I'm up.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Greg, I told you I couldn't see your face. Wasn't so hard. Okay. Hey everybody. You know what day it is? I'm okay. I told you I couldn't see your face Okay You know what day it is It's back in my day It's Tuesday October 29th drop date
Starting point is 00:22:16 For the back in my day book. It's out today. You can hold it in your hands You don't have to pre-order it like you have and thanks to those who have you can order it today and hold it in your hands. You don't have to pre-order it like you have and thanks to those who have, you can order it today and hold it in your hands. Go to Amazon. Go to your local bookstore. Whatever you have to do, it's out today. I was hoping, it's Tuesday, right? I was hoping to be on the Levitard show to be able to promote the book, but I couldn't because they had an excuse why I couldn't be on Tuesday. I had to be on Wednesday. Cockamamie excuse. They had Tim Walz on, the vice presidential candidate, okay?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Not even a presidential candidate, but they bumped me, okay? Okay, they bumped me. So they bumped me so we're doing the best we can we're recording our own professionally directed video here because what day is it it's back in my day that kind of thing was that jumping Charlie clackety clackens on the floor? Classic Charlie, yeah. Put it on the poll at LeBotardShow, over, under, on the age of a person who uses the word cockamamie.
Starting point is 00:23:31 100? Over or under? That was a very slow video from Greg Cody. For the people, for the audio people, you gotta watch it because the lighting couldn't be worse. It's jaundice. It's a delight to look at. The video is jaundice.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Not Greg, the video. No, all of it. Everything in the video, including the book. The book is the color of unbrushed teeth. Ha ha ha ha ha. Lucy, I don't believe that you and Jessica were here last week because for as much as we make fun of Greg Cody, Chris Cody hasn't fallen that far from the rotten tree and now that he's back after five days of doing
Starting point is 00:24:11 God knows what in Key West, I don't believe that he, Lucy or Jessica are aware of the i-team investigation that our show did that shames Chris Cody. Do you know anything about this, Lucy? No, I do not. I don't live here, so I definitely wasn't here last week. Okay, I don't know if Chris knows either, but please put a close-up on his face right now so that we can see the twitching begin.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Jessica, you and I were talking just before the show, and you were saying that you often use that staircase that is in a new building that is a secret route where we thought we're the only ones who go and use that staircase, that there's no one else using it. I thought so until a few months ago, this like venti Starbucks cup showed up and I've just been monitoring the progression of it
Starting point is 00:25:00 getting more and more disgusting and moldy over the last few months. But you're right, Dan, I don't know anything about this. By I-team, do you mean Magnum PI? I do not mean, I mean Columbo. Columbo leads our investigative effort. Chris, you're a litterer. We have found an accurate.
Starting point is 00:25:19 People were tweeting me that all weekend, and I was just like, who saw me litter in the keys? Well, that is- Wait, wait, in the keys? No, I didn't litter in the keys. I was just like, who saw me litter in the keys? Well, that is- Wait, in the keys? No, I didn't litter in the keys. I was just like thinking, did I? Because I was like, why am I getting a random tweet? No, Chris, that's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:25:31 First of all, that's inside. That's not littering. So it doesn't count. Yeah, not littering. Inside doesn't count. It has to be outside to be littering. He just threw garbage anywhere inside. It's not littering.
Starting point is 00:25:39 No, first of all, that actually, the story behind that was one day I was leaving and it was pouring. And I was like, okay, I don't want, like, I have a cup. So I put the cup down and then a couple days later I saw it started like growing something in it. And I was like, let's see where this goes. So now I'm just gonna leave it here and.
Starting point is 00:25:54 You were doing a science experiment inside the stairwell at our workplace? I was like staring at it, I was like, is that dirt? I'm like, oh, that's, there's mold. There was mold on a different cup. This isn't the cup that's got mold on it I don't understand using the staircase as a garbage Well, there's no garbage down there and I was it was raining and it's inside it was that's not littering
Starting point is 00:26:14 What is the rain? He is right about littering you have to do it out, but it was there for several days Yeah, he said it wasn't raining But you refused to throw it away because you realized that there was mold growing inside of it, and then science was your higher point. Let's see where it goes. Let's see where this takes us. Who did you think was gonna clean up after you? I imagine somebody would clean that stairwell at some point.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Mean. That staircase is disgusting. It's very dusty. It's new! We can't make that a littering mess, but I do want to talk about the general rules that are being applied here. Kent, put it on the poll, please Juju, at Levitard Show. Can you litter indoors? Because- He can't do it, man. I just did an image search on Google and every single picture is people littering outside. It's outside.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It's an outdoor activity. I wish Greg was here because I would like to ask Chris who raised you and then interrogate Greg about this. Very, like I grew up, I don't litter, like outside. I don't. Then you don't litter. I have not thrown something outside my window probably since I was like 16. Good boy.
Starting point is 00:27:23 When it was an egg. Chris, I'm not even kidding. Like I didn't know anything about this one. I didn't know that that was your Starbucks cup when I came in. That was purely chance because this thing, it's been so disgusting that I've started using a different stairwell and taking the long way
Starting point is 00:27:37 out of the building because it's so gross. I use that stairwell every day now to check up on it and see how's it going. How's the, did you guys moved it? So now it's gone? Somebody kicked it over and then it made a spilled mess and it was even more disgusting. Who would do that?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yes. Who would kick that over? I'm mortified by all of it. I think you guys are more feral than Wolverines. I think it doesn't make any sense to me that you guys would take a new staircase and filled it fill it with garbage I'm looking at a definition here of litter trash Trash trash such as paper cans bottles that is left lying in an open or public
Starting point is 00:28:18 Place okay go sit in the penalty the act of dropping trash on the ground in a public place public stairwell. For ruining comedy. I think Tony's better already. You've been off for five days. To be determined. And you come back and you get back on the treadmill and you can't speak and you litter and you do science experiments in the disgusting stairwell.
Starting point is 00:28:38 It's not litter, I just read the devil. It's a public space, it's a public stairwell. Places. That's a public space building. That stairwell's public. The public never gathers public stairwell. That's a public space, Billy. That stairwell's public. The public never gathers in that staircase. This is a private building. Yeah, in two minutes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Fine, semantics, you're not a litterer, you're just an unbearable slob. Whatever, get out. In Chris's defense, I walked on that stairwell after the fact, because that day, we had a lot of people complaining, saying there's a lot of trash in that stairwell. It's not just that, which I guess someone has done video of all the trash that's in the stairwell.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And now you're seeing all of the different things. So when you go out the door, exactly. There's a corner where people just stacked cups, which are very clearly from this office as well. That's really bad. The Elsa treats us so well. This is a great new building. Why are we doing this? It's hard to fathom that these are all things that are free because we've got an eating area where all the food is free and the result is people just gorge the food and then dump the junk wherever it is that they want to that isn't a trash
Starting point is 00:29:36 can. It's only us. Like this cannot be anyone else because it's a private stairwell. Like it's only us using that. I can't believe we're this disgusting as a show. I am speechless right now. I should have expected that it was us, but I'm still shocked, I'm sad, I'm disappointed. What should we do to Chris? I've got an idea.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I think he should do a show where he has to spend the whole show picking up trash on the beach and do phone ins from the beach. And we should put him in like an orange jumpsuit or something so that we make him a criminal. Like we make him a slob criminal and we punish and shame him publicly. He didn't drop anything on the beach.
Starting point is 00:30:16 He dropped it in a stairwell. Understood, but the punishment would be to clean up the beach a little bit. We should also clean up the stairwell and also fix the light bulb that's been flickering down there for the last few years. Yeah, and there's a light bulb that's been flickering down there for the last few years. Yeah, and there's a light bulb that's been flickering in my house too, on the subject.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Okay, this is not gonna make him your handyman. He should clean up the trash in all of our private homes. Yeah, he should cut my lawn. Cause he didn't litter in public, but he did leave trash in private. That light feels like something out of a horror movie. The flickering light in the stairwell. It feels a bit haunted.
Starting point is 00:30:49 There's a worse one. There's another stairwell that has, it's a lot darker and has a flickering light, which is the only source of light. At least this one's flickering, but there's other sources of light. That one, that's the only source of light. And sometimes weird music is playing in the stairwell.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I don't know where it's coming from, whether it's above us or below us, but weird music is playing as the lights are flickering. And I said, you know what? This stairwell, not for me. Stop taking it. I've heard that music too. I'm pretty sure it's a 10-year-old girl singing
Starting point is 00:31:19 who died in 1798. It's really haunting. Lucy, how do you feel learning this about your colleagues? Like I think there are times that you learn things about people and certain defining facts where you're like, hmm, think slightly less of you than I did before. Why do you think I left?
Starting point is 00:31:40 Because Chris is a litterer who's not a litterer who's just the slob. By the way, I saw like they showed the shot of that stairwell. There's a lot of shit from this office That's down there. That isn't me. I believe it is you though. There's one with your name on it So that's not fair So you think I'm willing to be like this one cup is me but not like why would like you think this do you think? This is shameful for the one cup that is you has your name on it. It'd be hard to deny This is child's play of shame like when you guys first were like we're Chris's zoom in on I was like, oh my god
Starting point is 00:32:08 What do they know? This is nothing the weekend. I've had I was like, what do they know and this is what you guys have for me I'm laughing I agree with Chris there. I do believe that there's more than one person leaving trash and I don't use this office those brown cups I use here for water. I never have exited these places with those brown cups There was a Dunkin Donuts cup that had green mold on the corner that people thought was either you or your dad It could be my dad. I mean what Chris is saying is you brought a knife to a gunfight I mean well only because the person I'm fighting against can't be killed because they have no actual shame like what I'm describing here is a level of carelessness
Starting point is 00:32:45 and inconsideration for others that would cause the normal, the median human being shame. But it's also kind of like the Zodiac Killer killed someone and then there's a bunch of bodies around the one that Zodiac Killer very clearly killed and then the Zodiac Killer was like, what, me? Why would you think I had anything to do with the other murders?
Starting point is 00:33:04 There's only one with your name on it. Like we can't put name on the Oreo cookies, rapper. We think, I think they're all you. I don't believe that we have a slew of people here who are that kind of gross. I mean, we have some pretty gross people here. Mm-hmm. Okay, maybe some pretty gross people,
Starting point is 00:33:22 but not a slew of them. I do believe we have plenty. I think we have a slew. Okay, you guys pretty gross people, but not a slew of them. I do believe we have plenty. I think we have a slew. Okay, you guys disagree with me. Have you ever seen a sink after a lunch around here, Dan? They don't know how to clean up after themselves. It's one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:33:35 It is like something that is between toddlers and sort of feral ferrets. Why the rain? Why did the rain inspire you to leave the cup? Because I didn't, there was little liquid left in it. I don't want liquid getting in it. I was kind of, and I was just done with it. What?
Starting point is 00:33:55 Oh my God. Still no clarity on the rain. No, I mean, it's raining, it's pouring out. It didn't give off walking around with a cup. Chris, if you're gonna own it, just own it. You left the cup there. It's okay, I'm with you. It didn't give off walking around with a cup. Chris, if you're gonna own it, just own it. You left the cup there. It's okay, I'm with you. It was raining that day though.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's not a lie. That is what happened. But you didn't leave the cup there because of the rain. You just left the cup there because you left the cup there. I've walked out with cups many a times and I either bring it in my car or throw it away. I put it down because it was pouring. That is why I did it.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Why wouldn't you just turn around and throw it away in the office? There's no garbage, that's a lot of stairs to walk. We have garbage here. No, I'm saying that's like a floor and a half. He has to walk back up. A floor and a half? I mean, that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Up's a lot harder than down. It is, yeah. A floor and a half is a lot of stairs. Now people know we work on the first and a half floor. Man, this is not, you guys, this isn't doing anything right now for me. Right. You're not even sweating, right? You guys are all, everyone's like, Dan's just like, I can't believe, it's not like you guys this isn't doing anything right now for me Like this is not even sweating right you guys are all everyone like dance Just like I can't believe it's just like the audience is mortified by you like three people tweeted
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Starting point is 00:36:01 for any reason whatsoever? I do not. Okay so there are a group of comedians it's a rather large group that have been knighted by Joe Rogan and Cat Williams and others object to the level of fame and power that they have gotten because many people believe in the world of comedians that they have not earned through funny, the top of the court jester rankings. Cat Williams is one of the few willing to actually put his name on it.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Everyone else is kind of afraid of doing this to them because it's a powerful group of people and Joe Rogan has assembled a monster power to basically become what Johnny Carson used to be on late night television. So very few people end up being critical of some of the stuff that's happening even as it arrives at what felt like a modern-day version of a Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden that Trump's entire crew now doesn't know whether to double down or totally back away from because it was racist and at the center of the racism was Tony Hinchcliffe trying
Starting point is 00:37:10 to do a comedic set when surrounded by something that is otherwise pretty hateful. And even RFK is walking away from that saying, wow, that was unfortunate doing that joke at Puerto Rico's expense. And Mike Ryan pointed out yesterday that many of these guys are opportunists and profiteers. There's a lane for Andrew Schultz. I remember when we started during the pandemic, Andrew Schultz was trying to reach out to figure out
Starting point is 00:37:41 how to do some of the stuff he has now done very well, which is create a lane for his comedy that makes him sort of too dangerous for the mainstream. And now next thing you know, he's laughing in Trump's face as Trump grants him an interview and says to Andrew Schultz's face, I'm basically a truthful person. And Andrew Schultz is just laughing at him. Mark Maron, who is one of the wise old voices in comedy and does a really good job of pointing out where anti-Semitism exists, writes on Twitter something that you have not seen a lot of comedians brave enough to do because this is a powerful group of comedians and they
Starting point is 00:38:30 don't tend to attack in-house. He writes, the anti-woke flank of the new fascism is being driven almost exclusively by comics, my peers. Whether or not they are self-serving or true believers in the new fascism is unimportant. They are of the movement. Whether they see themselves as acolytes or just comics doesn't matter. Whether they're driven by the idea that what they are fighting for is a free speech issue or whether they are truly morally bankrupt racists doesn't matter. They are part of the public face of a fascist political movement that seeks to destroy the
Starting point is 00:39:01 democratic idea. When comedians with podcasts have shameless, self-proclaimed white supremacists and fascists on their show to joke around like they're just entertainers or even just politicians, all it does is humanize and normalize fascism. When someone uses their platform for that reason, they are facilitating anti-American sentiment
Starting point is 00:39:20 and promoting violent autocracy. Very few comedians are willing to do this in-house because of the fear that they have of other comedians. This is one of the few who has the kinds of credentials that nobody's gonna really go after his intellect. It is a bit dangerous to war with Mark Maron because he has his own power and he's the OG. He was doing that stuff that they're doing now
Starting point is 00:39:46 before all of them were doing it. He's the KG vet. Yeah, he started doing a podcast in his garage. It blew up. It had an IFC spin-off, which was kind of borrowing from the podcast and then scripted additionally. Mark Maron's bang on there. It's been my whole apprehension
Starting point is 00:40:04 with this whole recent thing of, even our show has been very culpable in it, putting these comedians on pedestals. If Mussolini were around today, he'd go on a podcast hosted by a fledgling comedian. And that comedian would then go from clubs to theaters. That's the grift. And playing to the right
Starting point is 00:40:22 has opened up a whole new customer base. In fact, you invoke Schultz. Do you remember what Schultz was doing observationally at the start of COVID? I remember that he had a standup special that other standups didn't think was a special because it was very well written, but he was doing it off of a prompter
Starting point is 00:40:37 and it was like minutes at a time on Netflix. To me, I was introduced to him with those IG videos when everybody was looking for content, when everybody was looking for a voice, he was kind of an equal opportunist, but really more observational humor. And then once lockdown stopped and he started playing shows,
Starting point is 00:40:55 he just veered more and more right. Even you, as you mentioned, well, he laughed in Trump's face. He loves that because the left has kind of seized on that. If you've seen his promo since, he's still playing to that new base in Trump's face. He loves that because the left has kind of seized on that. If you've seen his promo since, he's still playing to that new base that he's created. A lot of these, and I happen to think he's talented, but a lot of the comedians that have ascended
Starting point is 00:41:14 during this time playing to this new right-wing audience, they're not the most talented people in the bunch. A lot of them have failed. Now, that's the story of stand-up comedy. Sometimes it takes 20 years for guys to break. they're not the most talented people in the bunch. A lot of them have failed. Now that's the story of stand-up comedy. Sometimes it takes 20 years for guys to break. Mark Maron was a guy that broke because of a podcast and wasn't because he played to a right-leaning base.
Starting point is 00:41:33 But I do think that we need to be discerning here. They're looking to cultivate an audience and go from clubs to theaters to arenas. And it's all been fast-track. They're all doing that though. They have gotten to to arenas, and it's all been fast-track. They're all doing that though. They have gotten to the arenas. They're long past clubs like this group of people. Joe Rogan has a power base in Austin,
Starting point is 00:41:54 and I'm not kidding you when I say he is the new knighter of comedians. Other comedians look at the ones that he has knighted and are afraid to say what Cat Williams says, which is some form of those guys aren't as funny as the guys that I respect as Funny, but they are the ones profiting now and one is one of them is hingecliff who I don't know if you guys saw the Reporting on this, but he actually took out. He was gonna call Kamala Harris
Starting point is 00:42:22 See you next Tuesday like it was taken out of his, his, he had workshopped some of the stuff in a New York comedy club and that was too over the line. And I think he complied on some stuff during the Tom Brady roast, which is a, is a, a venue more appropriate for some of the stuff that he was trying. But in this case, he was edited. I can't even imagine what would have happened there if, but in this case he was edited. I can't even imagine what would have happened there if he hadn't edited that one and he had just thrown that in the middle of a rally that RFK is backing away from saying, look, that
Starting point is 00:42:54 was unfortunate that we did that kind of racism to Puerto Rico and Hispanics. It's been an effective strategic marketing ploy by going to tastemaking podcasts and normalizing the conversation and let me crack open a seltzer with the Nelk Boys. And it's just all part of their very effective strategy. How can it be fascism if we're all laughing along? This guy seems pretty cool. How can he be a fascist?
Starting point is 00:43:21 He's just a standup comedian. How can he be allowing this? But if you put Stalin in a uniform in that day, if there were podcasts around, he'd be doing the same approach. And it's a strategy, by the way, that we're complicit too on the left side. They'll go and call her daddy.
Starting point is 00:43:36 This is how you speak to specific bases. But there is something really effective about right-leaning truth-tellers, independent thinkers on the right side in terms of normalizing that conversation and Marc Maron totally nailed it on the head with. I saw John Stewart had a conversation that he was having recently about when he realized that one of his shows was going to die at, I don't remember where it was, shows was going to die at I don't remember where it was it was the early incarnation of one of his shows and one of the first skits had David Tell come out as Hitler holding a bagel and coming out to just do the talk show circuit
Starting point is 00:44:16 there's a skit here of Stalin or Mussolini just going on a podcast and like surrounded by commercial reads because of how we're Normalizing some of this stuff. Can you explain though? Like what you mean by? Kamala Harris going on call her daddy to talk about Women's reproductive rights is similar to any of the stuff that we're talking about. Irrefutably the strategy is the same Let me let me go on a podcast and speak to a specific base, and that gives me access, direct access to an audience. You can certainly disagree with the message. I don't think the messages are anything similar.
Starting point is 00:44:51 But no, the strategy in this whole new media world is where they would go on the evening news. And it's not to say that they're not still doing that. They're really focusing their energy on podcasts. And I would say the left is probably a little late to the party. She's also going on 60 minutes though and doing mainstream media interviews.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah, which I said, I don't understand why we're seizing on this. Like, yes, this is a campaign strategy of the 21st century, but what I'm saying is the conservatives saw this first and they cornered the market on it and they have the bigger podcast. Howdy loyal audience, it's Mike Ryan, and we're getting down to the nitty gritty of
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