The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: LOBOS FLUSH TURD

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

"What's their relationship?" Greg Cote is making his first appearance on the show since his infamous beer rotation system at the office holiday party, but with the news of Mike McDaniel potentially... being safe from a dismissal here in Miami, he's also firing a coach... just not the one you'd expect. Today's cast: Dan, Greg, Zaslow, Chris, Jeremy, Mike, and Roy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I have not seen Greg Cody since the holiday party, since all of us being in genuine awe at his system of beer delivery at the holiday party. And I come in here today and I see him and he appears to be reading the news as I come in. And he says out loud to me, and I'm the only one in the room, he says, wow. And I look over, I'm like, what happened? He's like, the Lobos fired their defensive coordinator. Yeah. Oh, it's news. Trust me, in the PFPI community.
Starting point is 00:00:33 So you just dropped your defense? No, we fired the coordinator, Tird Cartwheel. He'd been with the organization for, I think, five or six years. It's breaking news. It is breaking news. Mike Ryan just fell down laughing at Tird Cartwheel. Mike sure enjoys just making ridiculous character names. It's something that he really enjoys.
Starting point is 00:00:57 That one's just lazy. No, he's never come up with anything as good as turd, turd. It's like the Ryan surname. He's going to be kicking himself over that one. Put it on the poll, please. Nepo baby turd cartwheel. Juju at Lebitard show, is turd cartwheel a great name for a defensive coordinator? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Yes or no. In the championship game, we gave up 198 points. That will not stand. So I had to, you know. I just don't understand why you're finding out by reading something. Like, aren't you in charge of this whole operation? Yeah, it was a headline. I was happy to see it in the headline, you know, because normally transactions in fantasy football don't get a lot of attention.
Starting point is 00:01:34 But you acted surprised. You were surprised by a Lobos flushed turd. No, you're thinking. That's a headline writer right there. You acted surprised. I was surprised to see it in a headline because, you know, it's, but this is the AM-F-F-F-F-T, and so you expect a little bit more attention, but to see it being reported as news, not just that it is. his news was a big deal. Azaz, has your appreciation or respect for Greg Cody grown at all since you started working with him? Oh, it has?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yes. Really? Yes. Couldn't have been lower, though. I need it. Well, yeah, it could not have been lower. That's for sure. So, you know, take that if you will.
Starting point is 00:02:17 But I find him hard not to like. Oh. That's the trick. Yeah, that's the trick. Even if I see some excerpts from his column yesterday, which I think are, I just, I vehemently disagree with. I find him hard to dislike. Okay, let's dissect that column coming up next here,
Starting point is 00:02:37 because Mike McDaniels is one of five. Mike McDaniel is one of five coaches in NFL history to return for a fifth season after back-to-back losing seasons in the third and fourth year. So the dolphins are doing status quo in a way that really angers their fan base. I don't know about that. I think Chris Greer being fired was,
Starting point is 00:02:58 the right thing to do. And I don't know that people, you know, people make fun on McDaniel for a number of things, the way he presents himself, all the ahs and the ums, and he's not an orator, okay? He's not a speaker. He used to be. He used to be. We thought the quirky oratory skills were something people liked when they had the best passing offense in the league.
Starting point is 00:03:18 When they were scoring 70 points on the Broncos, everybody loved him. He was glib. He was funny. He was amusing. And he's the same now. and it just doesn't fly. I don't think you have the right read on how the dolphin fan base feels. I think you're way, way too sugary.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I don't know. I think people are kind of in the middle on it. I don't hear. Like what percentage of dolphin fans you think want Mike McDaniel fired? Fired? Yeah, I don't, I would say 40%. I'd say 90. I'd say it's 90 with benching Tua.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I think that was a monumentally successful move they made. McDaniel, I don't know. I'm excited to keep McDaniel. I like McDaniel. Tua is so terrible. Yeah, I don't think that you have an accurate appraisal of what the fan base is feeling. The frustration, 25 years of frustration. Why are you all talking so assuredly that Mike McDaniel's still going to be the head coach?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Because he's still around now. Because he's still around. Everyone else has fired their coaches and he's still around. Did you read the B-Jax note? He's just waiting around like the rest of us. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast. I have not seen Greg Cody since the holiday party. And as I mentioned, all of us were really impressed, including somebody who was an actual sniper in the military forces at our holiday party.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Everyone was impressed by your beer gathering system at the holiday party. That night, your son put you to work on the way home because this machine never rests. Because it gave me 20 years. And in the car, you were talking into his phone. And do you know how disagreeable? You probably don't even remember how disagreeable you were with your son who was trying to coach you up. It reminded me of me trying to produce my father. Because he kept requesting things from you and you got pissed off at some point, as you often do.
Starting point is 00:05:16 What other sounds do we have from Greg Cody there? Because we've got him for two days and we've got to set up. This is the big, this is the biggest game UM has played since they played Ohio State for a national championship. Correct? Yeah, the biggest game in 20 years. Since 2002. Biggest game since the last one. And Greg Cody, well, bigger.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's bigger than the last one. That's the biggest game since the last one, and it's bigger than the last one. And it's the biggest game since they played Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl and had a championship stolen from them. Fireworks filled the sky and there was a penalty flag on the field in South Florida. We'll never forgive referee Terry Porter, who's never spoken about it publicly since. He can't hurt us anymore. And Greg Cody, on the way home from that. holiday party was just slurring into his son's phone and assortment of things and got tired of the
Starting point is 00:06:01 coaching honestly all right so whisper fake pregram show i don't know what you mean fake pregame show i don't know what that means fake pregame show fake big game show yeah fake pregame show biggest game in 20 years biggest game of 20 years university of miami university of miami Texas A&M. Texas A&M. That kind of thing. That kind of thing. That kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:06:32 We got a fake pregame show. Oh, for the love of God. Pregame show. Fake pregame show. Fake pregame show. Pregame it. Pregame it. Precaming it.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Do you remember any of that? Of course I do. The trouble is with this guy, I can't take the night off. Like, I'm always working. We're on the way home in the back of a luxurious Uber. I can't enjoy the ride home. He's like in my ear. Ask me to repeat things.
Starting point is 00:07:03 It's ridiculous. Okay. The million dollar question, though, is what didn't you understand? He's directing me to whisper and why am I whispering? Exactly. You got it. Whisper. You know. Even your mother was coming to my defense. No, she was not. I don't think she was. No, she was trying to coach you up. She was saying all he
Starting point is 00:07:21 wanted you to do is whisper. She understood what was happening there. Elder abuse. That's as drunk as I have heard you since you were slurring to your wife privately that you needed her help assistance and support as it regarded the controversies around your fantasy league. I need your support. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And it didn't do any good. We lost that vote because of collusion. I need your support. And what ends up happening is turd cartwheel gets fired. Well, that's different. You're mixing up PFPI fantasy and PFPI. Cartwheel got fired because he had just given out. His defense had given up 198 points in a championship loss.
Starting point is 00:08:03 In this case, in the main PFPI, I was trying to pass a majority vote to punish people who were late with their picks. I need your support. Yes. And I got my wife's support, but I didn't get the support from anybody under his roof. Are you in charge of your league or not? Is it a democracy? You got a majority vote in? Well, he, 42.9% of our league is under his rule.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So it's a majority vote? It's not a dictatorship. It's a democracy. Younger son Michael is also on my side. That's where we got over 50. Well, that's the problem is that I knew I was going to lose the vote. You know, you directed your daughter to vote against me. Not true.
Starting point is 00:08:41 But Michael voting against me was ridiculous. I redid my will the next day. I'll tell you that. You keep threatening to do that in a way that's really unseemly. Honestly, it's only something that I've heard of, like, billionaire tyrant oil tycoons with, like, terrible family dysfunction. It was sending you with Logan Roy all of a sudden. You're always threatening to take away your inheritance when it's mostly your wife's money. You don't have any control over it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's me and mom talk. Or anything when it comes to my marriage. Put it on the poll at Levitart show. Does Greg Cody have control of anything when it comes to his marriage? You don't get to crusty up Miami Seahawks pennant in his garage? That old Dolphins chair that used to wear at the Orange Bowl that used to have in the garage. I don't get that. You're never going to get that Fort Lauderdale Stryker's bottle opener.
Starting point is 00:09:29 The Orange Bowl seat cushion? He still has one of those in his garage. I should bring in some of my old artifacts. Is that still a thing? First of all, yes. First of all, yes. But is the seat cushion still a thing at stadium giveaways? Dan, every stadium that I go to on my campus tour with ESPN Radio this year,
Starting point is 00:09:47 like we'll see the stadium, we'll go into the stadium like the day before. and I love seeing how many of the seatbacks are on the seats. Like, yes, it's still totally a thing. I remember when I used to go to the Orange Bowl as a kid, I saw someone who had that seat back on there, seeing the bleachers, like, that dude is living luxury. It's a necessity at Mark Light Stadium. Necessity.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah. Otherwise, you're sitting on poured concrete. That's all it is. You are sitting on just rocks, basically. I never had one. Smooth out rocks is what you're sitting at. I never had a seat back at the arch ball. I'm always standing.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So I want to get to all the University of Miami stuff as we will over the course of the week because we really haven't felt this way in almost 25 years down here. But the dolphins are in great flux. And Mike McDaniel is part of the GM's search, which is why I think they are going to keep him. And I believe he's lost all his lifelines now. He's got to make another quarter. back or he will be fired.
Starting point is 00:10:51 That's what the job will be, I would assume. I would assume that because Mike McDaniel has survived this and Tua yesterday is saying it would be pretty dope to get a fresh start somewhere else, that he's the last remaining member of this triumvirate of people that represented the franchise for the last few years, Tyreek Hill, Tua, and him. And I believe he will be the only survivor of this. You've written a column today in the Miami Herald. I think your thoughts are very different from a frustrated fan base that Zazlo gets to applaud every time that he crushes Tua and fires Mike McDaniel.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He's been firing Mike McDaniel for how long now? How long have you been firing him? Every single day you meet me instead of good morning, you say with Mike McDaniel should be fired every morning. I'm not sure the exact day count, but I'm pretty sure it came the Monday after the Dolphins got killed by the Cleveland Browns. Like, I feel like that day that they were just uncompetitive, Tua was awful. I think it had three interceptions that game. The day after against the Cleveland Browns, I think is when I officially fired Mike McDaniel for the first. The counter just switched from 40s.
Starting point is 00:12:02 This is the 48th consecutive day you said. Oh, yeah. I'm firing Mike McDaniel. That's for sure. I'm definitely firing. I think Mike McDaniel earned the right for one more season. How? How?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Because when you start one in six and two and seven, you expect the team to cave and this team didn't they got better the defense played better notwithstanding Sunday when they got their ass kicked in New England but they finish five and three they never quit on the coach which means
Starting point is 00:12:32 they're still playing hard they believe in this coach and I think it should go without saying that if he doesn't make the playoffs next season he's out no question about it and should be you know I hear what you're saying and I do think there is something to be for starting one and six and the team not quitting and you win five of your next six
Starting point is 00:12:49 games. But if we look at the entire picture here, in four years, Mike McDaniel's head coach, what makes you believe that this is a coach who can win you a Super Bowl? Like, that's what it needs to be about. Not just, hey, in the end of the season, the team played better. We have a body of work four years. What makes you believe this is a coach who can win you a Super Bowl? With this franchise, the franchise that hasn't won a playoff game,
Starting point is 00:13:16 in 25 years. I don't think they could hire anybody who would make me believe that. When they had Nick Say, and by the way, Nick Sabin would have done great with the dolphins had he not left. He was not a failure here at all, in my opinion. I think Nick Saban had the cred to maybe lead that. You say he wasn't a failure, but I think he was every bit as 500 as McDaniels been. Like you say that Nick Sabin wasn't a failure. He was too under 500. a 500 coach. Well, but it, unless you have the magic quarterback, it takes time. It takes a couple of years. It takes four or five years. The problem is there's no patience anymore. Well, no, no, no. That's not the problem. That's not the problem. The problem is after four
Starting point is 00:14:04 years, you don't have something that looks like a plan. That's the problem. The problem is after the first quarter against Tampa Bay, I thought Quinn Ewers had a great first half against Tampa Bay. And I was beginning to say to myself, you know what, I was on to his side too long. Quinn Ewers looks like the real deal. Since that first half, I have not seen that as much. I don't think they go into this offseason having any idea who their quarterback is next year or whether he's going to be any good. And that's a problem. Ewers isn't the answer. And I want to go one step further with this and ask you guys, in a league where everything's salary-capped, and what you actually want from your architects is to find a whole
Starting point is 00:14:53 bunch of people who are value. I'm asking everyone here this question. Do you guys have examples of organizations that can overcome this albatross of a contract? Because Cleveland's got one at quarterback with Deshaun at Watson, and they're not going to get out from under it. When you have this much money tied up in someone who cannot play at that position, I don't think it's something that can be overcome by an organization in a year or two. I think it takes five, six years, and it certainly can't be overcome in a year where there's no quarterbacks in the draft and no quarterbacks available in free agency. There's only seemingly one example, and it's going on right now.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It's Denver. Like Denver did it, but that's the only example I think there's ever been. And Cleveland's picking top six in the NFL draft. They have an opportunity to get a rookie wage scale quarterback in there. Inside the top six, dolphins got their hands tied behind their back because they don't have that kind of pick because they performed too well for their coach down the stretch. All right, kicking things off with Smyrinoff, the official vodka sponsor of the NFL and the number of vodka in the world. Chris Cody, you're here.
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Starting point is 00:18:40 He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because. He didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see it, Mother Ethel. Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg.
Starting point is 00:18:53 My microphone's on. Stugats. Paint the scene. The paint the scene is I've got to go to work. Good night. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. It's unlucky a little bit because when you pick 11, plenty of drafts, you get a good quarterback at 11. Plenty of drafts.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And this is not one. I just think that in this case, they needed to give McDaniel one more. I don't think McDaniel's a bad coach. And if McDaniel got fired Monday on Black Monday, he would be somebody's offensive coordinator next season. I guarantee you that. The part that I don't get, you guys have heard me talk about it. this for 21 years now because I am a little bit exasperated when yesterday makes an appearance and everyone is clucking about all the coaches that have been fired. And I'm watching and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:55 okay, so Pete Carroll couldn't take it with him, right? He forgot how to do it in a year. Like he was really good at it and he was really exceptional at culture creating. We all know he's great at attitude and atmosphere. And after one year, the Raiders decided, oh, that worked with Gino Smith back there, but it doesn't work with Gino Smith here. And now Pete Carroll can't take it with him. who we would all say is exceptional after one year the raiders decide not you can't do it anymore and i think we do this all the time with a thinking that there are variables out there everywhere that can just go from place to place and take it with them and i i think it's really really myopic in not understanding how it is these people do their jobs and how difficult these jobs
Starting point is 00:20:38 are and you better have a quarterback like there there aren't a lot of examples of a coach that's having success without a quarterback that he's at the hip with, show me them all. Like, it's just really hard to do. And Pete Carroll thought, well, I did it with Gino Smith in Seattle. I'll just take it with me over here. And after a year, he's gone. So explain it to me.
Starting point is 00:21:00 What happened with Pete Carroll that he can't just take it with him? Because if I told you right now, you can have Pete Carroll. Would you want that? Because there aren't a lot with resumes better than that available to you. Right. Well, I think a lot of coaches are going to fail. in their first year with a program like that. I mean, they have the number one draft pick for a reason.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I really think that there's no patience anymore. On ESPN this morning, I saw the headline, should the Ravens part ways with John Harbaugh. Why? Because his field goal kicker missed a 40-yard winning field goal? Are you kidding me? And if the kid had made that field goal, the same headline would have been applied to Mike Tomlin. These guys have won for years, but they haven't won enough.
Starting point is 00:21:44 what are we doing? Brian Flores, the last couple of years, was 10 and 6 and 9 and 8, and he was fired. What are we doing? Like, could I not put any number of people in that position and get a 500 record? Um, perhaps. I don't know. But what are we doing with this obsession with let's get Stefansky or let's get Rahim Morris or let's get whoever the next guy is who's going to come and sprinkle some sort of dust over my franchise? And it doesn't matter whether or not I have a quarterback, I'm going to have some leader who's going to coach my guys up. See, my objection with the Fire McDaniel crowd is who's going to replace him? Okay, whenever anybody says, any fan says, we've got to fire that guy, fire McDaniel.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I'm like, who's next? Is he better? Belichick? You guys want Belichick? I'm not fire the coach guy, but I think I've seen it. 48 straight days. But, but. You aren't fire the coach.
Starting point is 00:22:41 guy. But yes. You are fire the coach guy. But you're nothing more, you're nothing more than fire the coach guy. Paul Maurice would like a word. I apologize to Paul Maurice to his face and I told him that I love him. All right. So you don't get to keep holding that over my head. I'm with you. Eventually we move past it. Okay. I agree. So you just haven't fired Spowe. But I look at Mike McDaniel and I ask myself, is this a coach who can lead a team to a Super Bowl? And my answer is no. And if my answer is no, what do we do? Yeah, but your answer is no to anybody right now that I put in that position given their quarterback problem. There's not a coach. If I say Belichick right now, is that a coach that could lead them to a Super Bowl? Yes or no? Belichick.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I suppose, I mean, because he's done it, but I don't want Belichick as my coach. That's crazy. The Raiders thought that about Pete Carroll, right? Yeah. I mean, you're hiring a big name and what? Let me explore this with all of you, though. Just Just in learning over the last five years, so many of the things that I did not know about what leadership requires and still not being very good at some of those things. I do think that we consistently overvalue that stuff. Now, it doesn't mean that Vrable and Sean Payton can't have success in multiple places, but the conversation we're presently having about McDaniel, the fan base, I believe, will be. be satiated if it's simply addition by subtraction. Just get rid of him. I want someone else who represents hope because that guy makes me feel hopeless. And I want Zaslow to read some from Greg
Starting point is 00:24:22 Cody's column here because I don't know what you disagreed with. And I will tell you that for about 20 years, Jonathan Zaslow has been sending me texts that are simply the headline on some Cody column where it is the most obvious thing that anyone could say. Now, the headline writers have not done Cody any favors over the years, but now Cody writes his own headlines, so there's no one else to blame. Cody writes his own headlines is that right? Because newspapers are dying. That's correct. Oh, it's not because, like,
Starting point is 00:24:49 you're at a status where you're allowed to do it. It's because there aren't enough people working? That's pretty much it. Now, there is one editor who's liable to change a headline or tweak it or, you know, put a word in there. I would have figured it's a respecting. Nah, no,
Starting point is 00:25:05 Greg makes his headlines. I do make my headlines. And if they're bad, headline. The problem is you're limited to not to get too inside journalism. You're limited to a word count and a character count. What is the headline on this particular column? This is from yesterday. Yesterday's Miami Herald, Greg Cody,
Starting point is 00:25:22 column. We're happy to have the local sports historian in with us today, a big football week in Miami. Dolphins with no answers at QB is Miami Uers crushed by Pats. Is that your headline? Yes. Yeah. There's only so much you can say in those number of characters.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You don't want to give it away. Don't apologize for the headline. It's a fine headline. It's a decent headline. Sounds like you're doubting your choice there a little bit. Apologizing for it. I'm doubting every choice the dolphins have right now. No, no, you're doubting your choice in headline is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Oh, no, no. The headline's okay. Okay. Yeah, people who don't like the headline. What are you objecting to in the column? Well, first of all, the first sentence here in the column, circumstances could have been worse for you or on Sunday. They could have required that he play with his throwing hand tied behind his back.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I will tell you right there. you've hooked me. Like, you brought me in. Like, that's the first, that's the first line. Now I'm in. Now I'm continuing to read. Okay. We're talking about tying a quarterback's hand behind his back. You got me. Okay. But the main part, the main part that I disagree with is obviously Tua related, all right? Yeah. Giving up on Tua, who is in his prime. That right, now you'll lose me. Okay. He's in his chronological prime. You're not, you're not your prime anymore if you were a good quarterback and now you're terrible. That's not your prime anymore. Prime's an age thing, though. I'm with my dad on this.
Starting point is 00:26:40 When you say someone's in their prime, you're just talking about age. You're stuck on the age thing. No, prime is you're at the part of your career where you're going to play your best. You're stuck on the age parts. Yeah, good quarterbacks have bad seasons. I don't know if you know that or not. Good quarterbacks do have off years. It's condescending by me. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Tua. Now, if you present me, if anybody can say the neurological reports are bad, Tua physically in his brain is less than. than he used to be and less than he needs to be. If you tell me that, then I'm on that side. But right now, lacking that neurological evidence, all I see is a quarterback who made a pro bowl a couple of years ago and had a bad season this year. He had a bad season. Let me ask you, do you indeed lack that neurological evidence? Because you don't have the data the dolphins have, but we have a whole bunch of public commentary that has made us wonder openly
Starting point is 00:27:38 around here. Hey, is he right? Do we know the real... Look, man, this CTE stuff is complicated, okay? The biggest New York shooting that there's been in 20 years, somebody was shooting the NFL building said he had CTE, and it was learned that he did have CTE. What's going on with Antonio Brown right now, this Hall of Fame, when he gets into the Hall of Fame, that's going to be weird for everybody because of whatever it is that's going on with him and... I'm taking the under on that. You don't think he belongs in the Hall of Fame? I mean, that's a different question. I don't know anyone's voting for it. Yeah, I think the We'll be like, we'll be your guardrail.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Let's take a look at some tweets. We all agree that that would be awkward, so we're just going to go ahead and handle this one. Put it on the poll at Levitart show. Is Antonio Brown going to make the Hall of Fame? Now, Philip Rivers kicks his five years down the line, right? So he doesn't have to be with all of these guys that retired. He can get into an easier class five years from now. I think Philip Rivers helped his Hall of Fame case by coming back.
Starting point is 00:28:30 He was one of those guys because he played in this era. Even though he didn't win a game. He played in that era where is he first ballot? Is he a first ballot guy? He definitely helped himself. How could he have helped himself? He was 0 and 3. Dude, that was legitimately one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in the history of sports.
Starting point is 00:28:44 That's Hall of Fame stuff we saw. That was crazy. He was not bad. That is the only time I've ever seen anybody play in the NFL. Like, I don't know if you guys can find. Can you guys find the photo? Was it Sonny Jurgensen? Who's the famous photo of a quarterback?
Starting point is 00:29:00 It might have been Y.A. Tittle. On their knees, on the floor, sweating. Wai A Tiddle. Giants. Yeah, get that photo for me so that people. People can see how old some of these old quarterbacks used to look. Philip Rivers is the first time I've seen someone in a football uniform at the position being like, oh, he's got a total big giant belly.
Starting point is 00:29:18 He's got a dad body. Like he has not been working out for five years. That uniform's not slimming on him. People are going to forget that he was winless. And people are, if they're going to apply that context, they better apply the context that he went up against Mike McDonald's defense. He went up against Rob Salas' defense. And he just bombed in and he was fine.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Let me ask you guys this question when you guys sit here and talk about exciting name coaches, okay? Who had Mike McDonald being 15 and 2 under 40 years old? A lot of people liked him. 15 and 2 on the road? He was a highly touted D.C. Mike, Mike, I liked him. Mike, but 15 and 2. 15 and 2 on the road with Gino Smith and Sam Darnold as your quarterback's?
Starting point is 00:30:04 That's not something anybody could have predicted. Stop applying context to make it seem more improbable. Dan. I just liked him as a head coach. Look, we loved Mike McDaniel at one point, right? Right now, Ben Johnson is that guy. Liam Cohen is that guy. Let him have a losing season. Duval.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Yes, exactly. Let them have a losing season and see how long that love lasts. Like how Greg has to acknowledge the drop. What? Usually we just play noises and we let them go and therefore the audience. You don't have to thank your son for your son. Your son for playing the Duval drum. Duval. We keep it moving.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Great timing. I love it. You're a little rusty. I am a little rusty. Can we revisit, please, Greg Cody at the holiday party? Can we revisit the surgical airstrike that was Greg Cody getting beer from every avenue from an assortment of different people, putting out requests to everybody to bring him beers? Every time I talked to my mom at that party, she was scurrying, looking for your next beer because you had sent her off. Yeah, that's a funny.
Starting point is 00:31:06 It's a weird dynamic with your mother Because she both criticizes me for drinking too much And enables my drinking Was there any point that you felt bad That you were made Like you were asking multiple servers This is wrong No, what happened was the server comes up to me
Starting point is 00:31:25 And to be polite I order another drink No but see that would happen to me And the server would come to me I'd be like thank you he's already taken care of me And you're just like yeah bring me to I want you to bring me to I think at one point
Starting point is 00:31:36 point he had one in each hand and two just sitting at a table. Like I think there was at one point four beers. Well was the server confused? Oh yeah. And I think like other like Lewis at one point's like hey Greg and my dad didn't want to give him up. People were like oh there's obviously free beers here can I grab one. Okay Lewis took a drink which I donated to a charitable cause Lewis and and Al Hassan stole two or three beers from me. They're not stealing if you have four.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I mean, I didn't say you bring me four beers. I can only drink them so fast. Have you had so many beers that you forgot El Hassan's first name? I mean. You mean what? Hey. Read more from that column and what you disagree with in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So, you know, Dolphins recently hired former Cowboys Hall of Fame quarterback turned TV broadcaster, Troy Aikman, as a consultant in the search for replacement. I've been told Miami also will tap into Aikman's expertise at the position to help navigate the Tongue of Iloa dilemma and whether Uers seems the answer. But give me a thought right there. What do you think of the Akeman hire? I need your opinion there. You're calling it. They've got an expert on concussions.
Starting point is 00:32:53 What do I think of the Akeman hire? I don't know that he has an expertise on finding a general manager. They must think he does. I don't know what his experience is there. I don't know whether they hired him to ask him questions about the guy they want or to have him present guys that he wants. I don't know what that machination is. So I can't fully answer that.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I mean... That's Stephen Ross choosing someone who's more connected to league inner circles than he is, but you could have gotten Joe Buck to do it as well if you wanted to. Just grammar question. You guys are writers. Is it machination or machination? I think it's machinations. I thought it was machinations.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Never heard of it? That's, that's nuts. You don't know. I always thought it was MASH with an S-H sound, even though it's spelled C-H. Maca-Nations, according to the Internet. Thank you. I appreciate that. Was that helpful?
Starting point is 00:33:48 With an S at the end. Can you get me the sound, please, of Greg Cody trying to pronounce the first name of the most explosive University of Miami player in, I don't know how many years. Malaki Malaki Don Lebertard Quiet man Yes You know
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm married man I don't cheat on my wife Despite that gratuitous line In back in my day Stugats I wish you were here My wife I really miss her
Starting point is 00:34:19 No I don't That's the thing about Being married You know you're not allowed to say I don't miss my wife I've been gone two days I haven't been gone long enough To miss my wife
Starting point is 00:34:29 I'm sorry I call her I'm on the phone with her 30 seconds You know what am I Hello, all right, we'll see you. All right. And then, you know, I'm going to see her in two days.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I was jumping Charlie. Good. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Ohio State shut down Milwaukee, Tony, and it didn't matter because Miami had more ways to beat Ohio State than just one electric wide receiver. Yeah, there were bracket coveraging him the entire game. a huge sign of respect. A cool note that my friend David Lake, who covers the Miami Hurricanes really well, he passed along after the game that following the game, Malachi Tony reached out to Caleb Downs,
Starting point is 00:35:14 who actually had a wail of a game and is going to be a... He's going to be like a top three pick in the draft. Yeah, really, really good player. And he's like, hey, what did you see out there? How can I get better? That's a kind of guy that Malachi Tony is. That's second fumble, and it's a little scary, especially when he's considered. He's fumbled three times in two games and they haven't lost two of them.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And if you're familiar with South Florida high school sports, lore Malachi Tony fumbling is a big deal. Oh, is that right? Yeah, yeah. Ruben Bain reminds him often about that. And that second fumble recovery, this is the most instinctual player I've ever seen at the University of Miami, and we've had Santana Moss out there. He did not pick his head up. Just like, if that happens to me in a video game, I turn it off. He just turns, continues, and one fluid motion picks up a loose ball on the ground with his left hand, gathers it, and we keep going on our way. Like he got two forced fumbles on him, but he recovered both, and that was a huge play. But Malikai Tony, yeah, he wasn't explosive in the game.
Starting point is 00:36:09 They took him out. They wanted to dare Miami to beat him with other guys, and they did. But one thing that is not reported about Miami, C.J. Daniels and Malachi Tony, especially Malikai Tony, who had one of the biggest blocks in that game coming inside from the slot in motion and laying a huge block is these guys block incredibly well. Fletcher knows this, and this is why Fletcher was. was so supportive as an older player, like when he had that fumble against Texas A&M that could have cost them the season, you had a situation where Fletcher was talking about the things that he said to Malachi, Tony, as the older player on the team. Because Tony was broken by that, and
Starting point is 00:36:45 he's fumbled a lot. They played two big games where everyone's expecting him to have the electric play, and he had the punt return against Texas A&M, where he tripped over his own feet, and it's the reason he didn't get the touchdown, because he just, he tripped at the end. So he's trying to do the big thing because he's announced himself to America in the first game he played as a hurricane. There's never been a hurricane like this, 17 years old. He should be in high school. Who can do all
Starting point is 00:37:09 of these things. He's 18 now, but here's Fletcher talking about what it is that he said and did with Tony in trying to encourage him when he was just head down in the fourth quarter of the game against Texas, and I'm when he thought he had lost the season possibly.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Player, today I was more impressed with you as a teammate. When Malachi Tony he fumbled. You was the first one over there. Yes, sir. Would you tell him? Man, I saw his head going down and I immediately had to go to him because when in high school together, I remember he had a play just like that and he fumbled,
Starting point is 00:37:41 he dropped it. And he was like, Mark, man, this is my second time doing this. I don't want to let you down. I said, bro, you would never let me down. I said, this season, you have been bawling. Everything has been, you know, he works forever. Everything has been going your way. But man, God doesn't want to see how bad you want it. He's going to put you through a lot of adversity. I said,
Starting point is 00:37:56 please don't do that to me right down. Nah, because you're too blessed for that. Pick your head up and just look what God was in it for him. That was just all God, man. He just had to believe. Among the things that I found impressive about the first two games of the playoffs that the Hurricanes played is I didn't have that Texas A&M game. Weing won on defense.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Like just did not have that at all being a defensive game. There was nobody this season who slowed Texas A&M. That three points was a half against South Carolina. I saw them struggle for three points. but to have Texas A&M and that quarterback go for three points where he's shut down. And then the Ohio State game is supposed to be a defensive game. But if you looked at what the totals were on Miami, Miami wasn't supposed to have 24 points in that game. Ohio State doesn't allow that point total.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Now, I understand one of them was a pick six, but Miami had to just control the game sort of ball control offensively. They've won both of those games without the offense being explosive. The most explosive play they've had is Tony on a punt return. It wasn't because they're throwing the ball down the field at all. Nobody would believe if you had said before the playoff began that they're going to limit Texas A&M and Ohio State to a combined 17 points. That would be beyond ludicrous. It would be crazy. You figure they're going to give up 17 points in a half against those two teams.
Starting point is 00:39:19 They're good. Not Ohio State. I don't necessarily assume that with Ohio State. They're pretty limited offensive. That's always been the path for this team. They had a good defense. It's not like your offense was going to go shot for shot if we had a high-tempo game entering that game with Texas A&M.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I pretty much thought that it had to be that way against Texas A&M and Ohio. Yeah, but three points, though, Mike. No, that was pretty crazy. But also, I didn't have the context of there'd be 40-mile-per-hour gusts in this game. Can you guys get for me, please? I don't know that I'm surprised that we haven't talked about this yet, and this is my error not talking about this since Greg Cote. is here for the first time.
Starting point is 00:39:56 What do you think should be the penalty for Mario Cristobal after what it is that he did to Ryan Day? That was crazy. Yeah, it was nuts. Do you believe that there should be some sort of punishment? I'm surprised we have not heard more about that since the end of the game. I saw a report that there's supposed to be an announcement today on it. Greg, you don't seem to be known what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I do, but what would you have them do? Well, look, let's look at this video together. This is pretty egregious. It's not something I've ever seen before. What would I have him do? Like, I mean, you can't be doing shit like that. That's crazy. I'm surprised we haven't seen anything yet.
Starting point is 00:40:33 He hasn't said anything. Just an apology? Greg, you think that that requires just an apology? Punching him in the face. The camera angle doesn't do that shit. In Mario's offense, he called it a shove. It's damning. That looked more than a shove to me.
Starting point is 00:40:47 That was not just a shove. Where do you see him quoted? I haven't seen him talk about it anywhere. Greg, you seem. What is their relationship? It's an important question. Tessie, remember, Ryan Day is now O-N-2 Lifetime Against Mario Cristobal.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I heard from people that were around that that it looks a lot worse than it was. I mean, did they say something to him right before? Let's play it for sure. Dad, you watched on the TV. It doesn't seem like you've seen it. It seems like you're bluffing. It doesn't seem like you know what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:41:14 First of all, he had to have said something. First of all, it looks like AI, obviously. I mean, it didn't happen. It's AI. I mean, you guys are insane. You said you knew what the story was. You don't have seen that before. I love the follow-up.
Starting point is 00:41:33 What's their relationship? I mean, it's a pretty good left hook. I got to give Mario better for that. What's their relationship is such an interesting. He's in two lifetime. They're playful that way. It's like when I wrestle my pit bull. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:41:47 They're just two to wrestle when they see each other. This is the danger of AI, okay? He gave us more than he did for the Jeremy Brother bit. He started at the beginning of that saying he knew the story we were talking about. He got into the same mode, though, of the Jeremy thing, where he was just kind of like, what? What's the relationship? I'm confused here, so I'm just going to be a little on the outside. I'm still so mad about that.
Starting point is 00:42:11 The Jeremy thing where Jeremy did the show with his brother and his brother was sitting there and you pretended like you knew that it was not Jeremy the whole time when you didn't know. You did that same thing right now where you pretend. pretend you have this thing, okay? You're normally perfectly okay with us making fun of you, your vulnerabilities and places that you don't know things. You feel like, oh, wait, are they making fun of me here? You don't want to be left out. You wanted to be part of the club is what happened.
Starting point is 00:42:35 When I first saw that video, which wasn't today. You wanted to know their relationship. Yeah, because I didn't, when I thought it was real, it was so outrageous. And I'm thinking to myself, is that, you know, sometimes guys joke around. Was the giveaway when Chris Ball flexed like the Hulkster? Look, if I punch you in the shoulder pretty hard, Greg, we're going to play this video again. This is under no circumstance of friends ever played this way. Like in the history of friends, there's never been roughhousing where this is the punch,
Starting point is 00:43:08 and I think to myself afterward, but what was their relationship?

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