The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Luka Doncic for Anthony Davis Trade Reaction

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

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Jaden Smith's house Luca Donchich Anthony Davis Miami men's basketball won? This is the Don LeBotor Show with the Stugats Podcast. We're just receiving word of a massive trade in the NBA. The Lakers have traded Anthony Davis to the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for Luka Donchich in a three-team deal.

This is the holy grail okay and the only kind of thing that can knock off kansas city chiefs three p two purple baseball used to be able to do this baseball cannot do this baseball used to own the transaction yet the transaction now belongs to basketball and i hadn't realized until this trade all holy god we're going into Super Bowl week, and the trade deadline is at the same time. That hasn't happened before. It's because the regular season is longer.

Is that why that's happening? Like these two things don't happen at the same time, and we're going to have them happening at the same time. And it starts with the reason this is the Holy Grail, Stu Gotts, isn't just that it's stars and shocking, okay? Because that would make it enough to be like, oh my God, everyone't just that it's stars and shocking, okay? Because that would make it enough to be like, oh my God, everyone in sports is going to be clucking about this. But it's also these two things that you don't get to have all the time. Possible

malpractice, like where we can all go to the Dallas GM, who many of us learned his name. Like whoa, is that just straight incompetent? So there's that. Right. And then this is what makes it the Holy Grail right here. What I'm about to say. fishy, fishy, fishy. When I throw fishy in the mix, people love my god. Oh, my god. So it's not just stars shocking. What do you mean? Lucas being traded? Oh, look, I'm used to athlete divas side get wait a minute just out of shape and won't play defense now you can't get into the program at his office or players ever

he's twenty five years old this player never gets traded and when i walk into the room today and i'm like give me worse trades in basketball history everyone's got an opinion and it's immediately this this is the worst trade in nba history everyone's got an opinion and it's immediately this this is the worst trade in nba history everyone's got that opinion except for charles barkley will get to him in a second but uh... man-to-man to see the last fifteen years transact into this where you realize that the

damage done on lebron james is good lord do we make anthony davis a peasant for serving him the last few years that's a great player that everyone mocks today like that player is usually not available at 32 years old unless he's disgruntled he's been available twice I know but I'm saying when you look at what you're you mean like historically? fitness wise?

well that's the thing right? yeah everyone's mocking him about the fact that in the last four years he's only played seventy six or sixty games once it was last year right but he's also shot twenty six percent from three since the bubble that's crazy that's worse than the league stuff like that's what a lot worse than russell westbrook but people are devaluing what that player is and i

got a bunch of sound i want to play for you here but what other elements do I need to put in this story for it to be the seismic thing that shakes the Super Bowl and now leads us into the trade deadline and what was already for me used to be a miserable week because it was just the Super Bowl but you throw the trade deadline in the mix. Oh wow yeah little bonus little gravy on top how about that the NBA wins a weekend. I mean, although they would not have won that weekend if Titans Jags played yesterday. I'm telling you, if we had a single NFL game to talk about, I'm not

certain we lead with this NBA trade. You have AFC, whatever, AFC 73, AFC 65. Okay, and we all agree. Time to get rid of all the X emissions. It was a tug of war. I love the Pro Bowl games. Really? Take it back. It's a good game. It's a get rid of all the exhumations. It was a tug of war. I love the Pro Bowl games.

Really? Take it back. It's fun, it's like when you get a good like television crossover episode, you're like, oh look, it's Baker Mayfield and Jackson Smith and Jigbo like hanging out like they're friends. He's throwing dirt.

He's throwing interceptions, he's throwing touchdowns, it's great, I love it. I was watching The Clash at Bowman Gray. We all woke up to this, yes? Or were some people? No, I was out. And then I said the same thing that everybody did. Did Shams get hacked?

And then four minutes later, he was like, no, this is real. And I was texting other NBA insiders asking if shams got hacked and they were saying like, no, we're, we're hearing it's, it's real. Yes, this is real. He tweeted that rarely happens. Remember when the Miami heat were like, Shams doesn't know what he's talking about. And even this trade was so absurd that even I doubted the dude that once broke Donald Trump had COVID. Yeah, Shams doesn't get very much wrong.

And I'd like to go through, Stu, got some of what was happening here. Because before we get to Nico Harrison, put it on the poll at Levitard Show, did you know Nico Harrison was the MAVS and before you realize is incompetence movement because everyone is looking at this as an act of sheer incompetence to only offer generational player like standing on he says best offensive player ever stood as his players never available at this age by trade to

have them have show you all mark you was not running things anymore he's not the voice on this you're not seeing him in public anymore all please out he owns twenty seven percent team but there it is they didn't want to pay in the supermax and we will say well out of shape or and this this this part stood out is interesting the Miami heater now it's loading up for twenty twenty six and those deals are

made a year from now. Like those deals get made back channels, however it is that you make those deals on, okay, we're going to build a team around Lucca in 2026, right? Like, wink wink. However it is that that stuff happens in the corridors, like whatever it is that you think Pat Riley is doing right now is not just about jimmy butler okay it's about what do we have in twenty twenty six and you can imagine uh... the the movement all around and everyone asking how does that player go to the lakers right but that's act that's also extra fishy as you have lebron james saying he didn't know

anything and nobody i don't know about there's just nobody. That could be, it must be very frustrating if it were factual for LeBron James, if it were factual, that he didn't actually know anything. He knew. Now what, I understand, Stugatz? Yep. Yes, no one disagrees with you. I'm just saying how frustrating it must be to think, like, because he went on the internet and he's putting out clown tweets and calling people liars because it's being reported that he was at dinner and he knew nothing about this.

Well there was that video from I think it was last week where reporters were strangely asking Anthony Davis about his Lakers legacy and Anthony Davis is like you guys trading me and someone goes check your phone at the very end of it so look the Mavericks approached the Lakers which I think is like the most insane part about all of this. Rob Polinka reportedly was like, are you are you me right now? Has anyone stopped to think as to why the Mavericks would do this deal? Nico Harrison knew he would be a punchline after making this deal. He knew that he was giving up a 25 year old generational player who took him to the NBA finals. But why did he give him up? Why did he decide to choose to build around Kyrie Irving instead of Luca? Think about that for a second. Everyone in this, do you

realize how rare it is for America as one? Sports fans on behalf of we care about the transaction. For us to shout at the sky Dallas you fools all of us together a song into the sky mark Cuban runs for the shadows he's been in the lights for how long I don't want to do with this whoever it is it's running the Mavericks now and go look at look look at some of the past there because you've got a lot of this hiding in the shadows in ownership doesn't want to be associated with that gets the supermax so they have to get rid of it but how do you do that how do i form the argument

because i'm going to try how do i form the argument on why it is that nico harrison had to do it that way as everyone says why would you not shop him and Just go all around the league because you get all but oh Everyone in the league let's name them Jokic Wemba Nyama

Sheik Gilgis Alexander players you wouldn't trade for Luka Doncic Every other team in the league is in play for this player, correct? Yeah, I'm guessing I mean to the Celtics trade Jason Tatum. I think so. I think so Yes, you think you think Boston would be into getting like a white superstar Yeah, I think Boston would be into that ten years of a white superstar because the other thing Boston also likes guys You show up every night. I mean you're sitting here slamming Anthony Davis 70 games one time last seven years I think it is for Anthony Davis 60 twice in the last nine years or something like that. Luca doesn't play that much either

I mean, what's the last time you seen Luca on a basketball court? Sue, I know you're asking a question, but people have had 48 hours to ask themselves why would Dallas do this and Tim McMahon is reporting stuff. There's stuff about Luca's conditioning. I mean, Luca puts out that statement, doesn't thank the Dallas front office at all. Clearly there was a big schism between the two, but I think I was kind of introduced to Nico Harrison. I learned as someone that's not really watching the NBA all that much during the regular season anymore, who is running the Dallas Mavericks.

But for me, what really resonated is, well, who no longer is running the Dallas Mavericks anymore? To your Mark Cuban point, like this is very clearly something that would have never happened. Well, Mark Cuban has been asked before, like he's been asked straight up of his marriage, which was more likely. You don't have Luka Donchich on the Mavericks or you get divorced. And he's like, I'm going to court to get my marriage papers. That will never happen on my watch.

When I say fishy, it stretches. Like Mark Mark Cuban got out, and we're all like, why would he get out? He loves that thing, why would he get out? Because he thought value was highest, as he's talking now about buying Fox. Like, how do I get the money to buy Fox? Because I started with broadcast properties, and I've used up what I love about basketball.

It was weird to have this happened anywhere around mark cubans watch i'm guessing he's a shame that he owns twenty seven percent of that of of that having happened uh... because he no longer controls that team any told us he would he did say what in the original transaction he said he'd still be running the mavericks

and he clearly is not but let's let's discuss for a second what are you guys hearing or reading on the other side of this just allow me for a moment to indulge the idea that Nico Harrison isn't a complete idiot okay okay right even as I understand all of sports is shouting how could you what like I just can't believe how unison this is that we can't we can't agree on anything in this country except this Nico Harris is an idiot even if you take everything he's saying at face value and like Luca does have serious conditioning issues and there's gonna be health issues there you could

still get more for Luca Dacic so like yeah even if everything he's saying is true why did you do it this way? In a league where Gobert goes for five first round picks. In a league where the Lakers got Anthony Davis for three first round picks and three good players, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, and Brandon Ingram. So they got everything. This will always bring a halt. And of course, if what I'm telling you is so if the asset is i've got a historic international global icon superstar twenty five years old that you can have ten years of him

it's uh... a story players standing on the says the best offensive player that there is room or ever that there are people i know you can disagree with that but i do not get you can disagree and many people would but I'm just saying you're talking about somebody Who's in his prime and 25 the last time this became available? It was LeBron LeBron says this is his favorite teammate ever like this is his favorite player to watch ever is what he says and now we can Have the discussion about whether he's the best teammate LeBron James has ever had and I won't salt Mike Ryan there Well, he's not well, no because's going to be teammates with Steph Curry soon.

Or on the Knicks. We're going to have that conversation too, aren't we? Everyone that is plugged in the league circles think that this is basically the move before the move, and that signs are pointing to LeBron going to Golden State. And it appears that Jimmy Butler is also playing ball with that by saying, I'm not going to sign an extension with Golden State, as he's apparently just willing to send an

extension with the best teammate ever is obviously brawny we could talk about second best right dalish it a push that they should have said we want brawny back indulge me for a second as i ask you this question because why does it have to tell you that was why does it have to just be lakers if if we're all assuming you could have done better than just anthony davis and a first-round pick

when paul george goes for however many first-round picks what was it six first-round picks is it possible that because you know that the moment luca knows that you're doing this

that you're robbing him of a hundred million dollars he can no longer get the supermax nico harrison was in front of people saying yesterday he probably doesn't want to talk to me because that he was just cost a hundred million dollars by a franchise when it comes to loyalty in sports and kevin drape was saying this yesterday was saying man you guys required of us but when it comes to the teams that's cold that i had a relationship with that that team and you blindside him in the age of

power but like you and you take a hundred million from so indulge me he can't have the information guys knowing this he cannot have people knowing that luke is available a year and a half out because then the dealing will start right then for how it is that miami gets into the

mix of all the other the suitors get into the mix and then it becomes a business decision that Luke is making instead of one that Dallas is making and and there is the fight like there's the fight of 15 years of this stuff where the player power they just stripped him of it at the end he had a relationship oh you're not gonna do Dame Lillard to us we're not gonna wait for you to become a free agent or fat and we're not going to let you make a mess of this. There has to be some logical reason why Nico Harrison would choose this route because if there isn't, it's malpractice.

Well, he said defense wins championships. Yep. That was part of his reasoning. I could see how, well, no I can't. They're not better without Luka, but they're not a bad team. They made it to the finals last year. Even with this trade, I like their whole plan of, hey, let's just get LeBron's co-stars

maybe a couple of years after their prime and see what kind of run that we can go on. But Dallas is still gonna be competitive. But offensively, they've gotten worse. No doubt, they just lost Luka Donjic. They made it to the finals because Luka Donjic was really good. Okay, but one of the things that exasperates me,

you guys tell me if you guys have been thinking or hearing about this at all. Because I get enticed and delighted by the idea of LeBron and Luka playing together as well. Worst defensive team in the league as soon as he steps on the court. Without Anthony Davis, are you kidding me? They're talking about Vusovic's worst defensive team in the league as soon as he steps on the court without Anthony Davis are you kidding me are you like they're talking about Vusevich is

and jerk itches and and and who's and Valen Shunas and what they need to get is Robert Williams because that is gonna be with JJ Reddick as coach like Caruso's not there anymore they don't have an ability to guard anybody and now they just added the worst defensive player in the league nobody cares about this because it's just stars noise intrigue fishy malpractice but here is uh... charles barkley and i happen to agree with them if anthony davis plays he's really good any somebody that's gonna make uh... it'll it'll make the mavericks better than the rockets

uh... okc there my favorite to win this thing. But man, the Dallas Mavericks, they might have just became the second best team in the Western Conference because the jury is still out. I think Denver needs to make a trade because they need to get some bench help. The Rockets are so young. I'm not going to take The Rockets are so young.

I'm not gonna take the Rockets beating the Mavs in a seven game series. The Memphis Grizzlies, I like their team, but man, Dallas, this is gonna be a very fun thing. He's the only one saying that, right? I think so, yeah, that Dallas, he's not saying they got the better end of the trade, but for the now, for the immediate future, he's not saying they got the better end of the trade but for the now for the immediate future

He's saying Dallas has a legitimate shot of getting back to the NBA final It really can't be Nico Harrison's an idiot, right? They're sure it can well can't why not? Why can't it be can't it be what does he know about Luca that we don't you've never I know that's the weight stuff And there are reports, but there's it it doesn't make sense. There's got to be more that they know about Luka. That's what I was saying before. Ask yourself why this guy who knows he's going to be ridiculed today in the entire week, right? Put his job on the line, essentially, his reputation.

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I will have this conversation with Jessica and Mike because I just don't get to believe in the modern age that the internet gets to be right. Howling in unison on a single thing. United on a single thing. Consensus. It's not the internet. It's not, yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like, back low, it's like all the NBA reporters. No, but I, no, I'm just saying the internet,

no, no, I'm saying- Consensus can be right a majority of the time. I'm not just reading like NBA meme reactions, Dan. Isn't that Legion hoops here? I'm saying every- NBA sentel. Everybody, I'm saying everybody. When I say the internet, I mean all of us. That's what I mean. Usually when it's like that overwhelming, I haven't done the breakdown on majority consensus.

But usually in a time where it's hard to get consensus, usually that majority is right. Okay, so if that's the case, you were the only person in the world saying Wemby was gonna be a bust There was consensus on the other side of basketball from the internet yelling at you that Wemby was not gonna be a bust and your you Were relying on he's gonna break and now De'Aaron Fox is gonna be better than he's ever been Yeah, but I was also saying Wemby's unfair. So well, I staked out every take. Okay, and he is super unfair And he's really uh... yeah and we all know this now who are the players to gods

dallas could have called and they're untouchable the answers no you go to denver the answers no miss out on the only do you think minnesota says in the edwards yeah they've got a very low they've got ownership issues as well they say no you think i think they stay with that word She okay because Anthony Edwards Offensively Anthony Edwards is not as good a player as Luca is like that's not he's there every night though

I mean he is he plays every night Okay, guy loves basketball guys in shape, okay Cuz but Minnesota fell back now that they don't have Kat anymore and he's got to take a bunch of threes and he's pretty unhappy there as he sees them slide behind the others. So I'm saying that maybe it's Giannis, maybe Giannis, but I'm really not sure. Oh, I think the Bucks say no. You would have a- Who says no?

Man, I've been waiting for this game for 20 years. Well, but Stugats, everybody was playing it this weekend. I know. I think San Antonio says no, Man, I've been waiting for this game for 20 years. Well, but Stugats, everybody was playing it this weekend. I know. I think San Antonio says no, obviously, right? But therefore, my point is the bidding war is between 27 teams. What do you want? Yes, of course. We got a shortcut to the finals if we have one guy. You were saying that you have to do this in the shadows because you don't want it to be known because then if it's known by Luca he gets to

Exact power over the situation. No, I don't think so. I don't think so He has to play for another full season after this for that team So his threat of I'm not going to extend with you. Okay, if I'm a contender I do that right now Especially say this is a scenario in which Los Angeles keeps LeBron James. He's 40 years old, I got basically a one season window to make this work, it's only gonna cost me Anthony Davis and a first round pick.

I imagine if you sound the klaxon and let everybody know, you're probably doing your franchise a disservice by keeping this as covert as you did and only reaching out to reportedly two teams. Can you tell me more about the klaxon please and the sounding of the klaxon? Because I'm not familiar with this as an instrument. It's the first I'm hearing of it. He was an old guard for the Warriors. The thing that I'm asking you, because okay I'll grant you, consensus is totally right.

I'll grant you, consensus is totally right. Nico Harrison is just a fool. He doesn't know how to do his job. He just bumbled and accidentally traded an asset. The job is to get maximum value for the job. The job is to get maximum value out of your assets. According to Charles, he did. Okay, so. So here's what I'm talking about, consensus.

It's easy, like they're gonna be outliers and they're gonna be far more memorable because you're gonna be able to say well everyone thought so-and-so was gonna be a bus but it ended up being a good pick and I remember it because it was against the odds if you've ever played in a fantasy league and yet add a new member and everyone knows this guy's a sucker he's gonna make terrible trades that person usually sucks in your fantasy league it's just it's it's I'm telling you it hits like 99% of the time you know the sucker in your fantasy in your fantasy league the second he makes his first move okay and so my question to you is what would make this person

whose job it is the top of a sports organization to maximize asset value call only one person to not create a leveraging negotiation in any way what would be such a strong power that would make this person risk the foolishness of this and just the incompetence of it becoming public where we all can see that is not the correct way to do that if not for he's out there is a mask for the organization on whatever it is here that is worse than we know which is every basketball person i'd i've reached

out to this weekend and a lot of them who know things they're like that doesn't make any sense there's something else going on here like there has to be something else before the explanation and after the explanation what would be the explanation for why nico harrison would do this because i think you have to keep it quiet become such a strong impulse that it's the only way we get to the shock and all of wait a minute in the information age you just surprised us with a monster where we're questioning shams credibility it's possible that there's stuff that hasn't been reported yet, but I don't think we can like jump to those conclusions without knowing any of that. All we have right now is his

explanation for it and like a lot of the analysis on it, which yeah, like Anthony Davis is a better player than I think people are giving him credit for. And he's played a lot more games than I think he's getting credit for over the last three seasons but and Luka Doncic is obviously an amazing top five player in the league but it still doesn't really make a lot of sense that it happened now and in this way. I do believe Anthony Davis is getting slandered here and has been for a while and it's because of the reason you guys say which is that seven-foot body doesn't hold up it starts to break all over the place be tougher be stronger luca doesn't play that much either

yeah and and he's he's twenty five and the the out of shape thing right where we're at the point that we all understand that james hardin gets in and out of shape however it is the field if he's feeling the joy of an employer right pay me my maximum money make me comfortable i'm guessing that luca was very comfortable in dallas ofke was very comfortable in dallas uh... of course he was comfortable in dallas he never had the plight no one said anything i mean can i can i have a chart and have a pretty good year by the way yes and can i ask you guys this about uh... i don't think people care

about the humanity in this but picking up lucas life overnight on a weekend when he's got a relationship with the city when he's from another country when he came here as a teenager in that city embraced him and it's what he knows of America embracing him and he likes it there in the middle of the night to snatch him out of that and surprise him and to not know it's coming from employer or anywhere else you would understand why that would wound someone no and be discombobulating for whatever the next few weeks of his life are gonna be yes no matter the amount of money that they

have I understand it. He's going to be fine. They have their transition plan. He's one of the biggest stars in the league and he's going to a marquee franchise. I guess he was like, damn, that hurt. I'm going where? All right, sweet. All right.

I get to be more marketable in Los Angeles and I could ever be as a Dallas Maverick I'm gonna be the face of the league over here. I mean actually hop on that treadmill now Dan Are you are you trying to say are you trying to take us to a place because you seem to be confused as to why this? Happened how it could happen how it could happen so silently Are you headed down a place where the NBA forced to trade? Adam Silver? Oh, no. You're talking about the powers that could make

this happen? Maybe they wanted Luca in LA. Twenty-five-year-old Luca Donkage in LA with LeBron James and the Lakers are relevant for the next 15 years. You're going to throw me out. Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and

get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. I'm good. You're good. We're good. I think I need to make you good on that one because no, I'm not going to do that. And this is a big sloppy week for Stu Gotz and we've gotten it off to the wrong start. I got to be honest because God Bless Football is the number one, it's the number one podcast, football podcast in America.

Yes, it is. And it's headed to the Super Bowl. Billy Gill has a stomach ailment. He had a bad time for a stomach ailment. The worst. Yeah. And everyone, I see suitcases and there's rain outside and people are like, our company is now in full force headed to the Super Bowl.

Stugatz is going to head out shortly. Yeah. You say it's a bad time. Most people would ask, is there ever a good time for a stomach virus? But if there is, I'd say a couple days before I gorge on Super Bowl food. Right.

It's actually probably a pretty good time. Clear out your system. Get it out, yeah. It's got a nice little face layer. I have seven days to recover before I just shock my system with garbage. Does he have norovirus? I have no idea.

It's going around. Billy ill. This is not a good time for any of this. Yes, we think Billy, I think that's just a HIPAA violation. I think we've just, regardless, he's hurting right now and he's trying to get to the to the Super Bowl and this gets in the way. Or the toilet bowl. Play on. you plan so you guys would agree with me that there are very few stories in sports

that would have these many elements that it has to happen in basketball has to be the transaction has to involve stars it has to have fishiness and malpractice in it for it to be something that knocks the super bowl out of the way and shocking sports fans and stood out this part it's yes to me, to me it matters. Do you know how hard it is to shock us in the information age with information? Like do you know how hard it is for something like this not to be rumored, talked about, in any way, whispered in any corner where there is power? It came out of nowhere. Like I woke up that morning, I was stunned by it.

It was like crack being able to break that news to people. Oh dude. Right. Oh, he was the best. Who didn't know yet? He's the best. Like the newsroom meme, I delivered the news. They're like Mike, we're drunk, we don't care.

I was shocked because it happened very late at night, but I was still awake. And then I woke up the next morning, did my routine, took my supplements, drank my coffee, and then I opened up the internet. And then 15 minutes after I woke up, I was reminded that it wasn't a fever dream, that it actually happened.

And I got to relive it all over again. And as people on the West Coast were waking up, I got to deliver the news again. God, what a day. They were awake though when it happened. That was what frustrated me. I woke up at like 6 a.m. Sunday morning and Lehman was already halfway

to his fishing trip in the Keys. And then he's like, wake up, the craziest NBA trade of all time just happened. And I was like. Wake up? This was a wake up? He made me call him from the car so he could talk about it.

And I was like, uh-huh, that's crazy, uh-huh. And he was just like blabbering on and on. This was a wake up? How often are there wake up calls there's been a trade in your life? This is probably the first one. I mean, normally they happen when I'm awake. Not this one.

I think you should talk to Abby about it. I did. Yeah. I told my wife too, I'm like, hold up. You're not gonna believe what happened. She doesn't understand any of the players. She didn't care at all. She didn't really care, but it's just like,

you don't understand. Chris. I wish you did so I can contextualize how massive this is. What was your experience with this, Chris? Did you wake up groggy? Did you smell of beer? Did you learn the news? Well, that's every morning.

I like Mike woke up in the morning and I had seen it late at night, but I was like, I had this like foggy feeling of like, that was a dream? That wasn't, that happened? That actually happened. And I went back to Twitter, I was like, oh, because that felt like a dream trade.

Like that, like that, wait, no way that. I'll tell you what happened to me. I will tell you, I grabbed the iPad and I'm headed to the bathroom groggy it whatever our days and when i come upon the story it's there on the s p and i look at it and i'm like the internet's fooling me again and i close my laptop because when those lights get in my eyes it'll keep up that i just went back to sleep saying this is clearly fake i'm i'm i'm not going to fool for this nor am i going to adjust

my eyesight enough to even go on the check to see if Other people are talking about this I'm gonna see if I can get back to sleep the iPad has replaced the newspaper as the thing you bring into the bathroom Huh put it on the pole Labotard show has the iPad replaced the newspaper is the thing you bring into the bathroom said day How does that work? Do you like rested on your thighs? I wasn't sitting down. I was just walking and checking in with the internet on my way to the bathroom.

Like holding a giant iPad in front of your face? Yeah, just like a morning pape. But when you do sit down, do you bring the iPad with you like for a read? No. Why the toilet talk? Well, I'm just wondering because that's interesting to me. It used to be the newspaper. Now I'm guessing it's been replaced by the 2 o'clock in the morning

You shit with the we all then I do it. I showed my phone. I share with my phone like I know it's nothing. Yep. You're not proud to admit it, but it's a safe space. It's the best phone time Obviously your knees are asleep. You guys have kids and you have to sometimes hide from your kids in order to use the iPad. Salvation. He's still denying it, Mike. Yeah. I don't understand this. It has nothing to do with kids.

And reading your phone and being on that toilet for 20 minutes. Glorious. It is, quite honestly, the best of times. I disagree. I don't like it in there. I don't. Like, it's not for me.

Elbows on the knees? No, I don't. Everyone loves their own brand a little bit. Oh ho ho ho ho ho. Look in, see how you're doing. Elbows on the knees. Are you okay? You guys don't sit like this?

No, sometimes I do. Roy, did you care? Sometimes just right elbow, sometimes just left. Roy, did you care at all in any way about any of this? Yeah, I was at church when I found out and I said, holy and people hurt me and looked at me while in church. In this? Yeah, I was at church when I found out and I said, holy and people hurt me and looked at me while in church. In church?

Yeah, it was that big of a deal. Wow, so you woke up and went all the way to church when and you like didn't get any notifications on your phone. No. That's shocking in this day and age. No, I try to limit my notifications. Now I feel like you're lying and you just wanted to get the holy joke off.

I feel like you did see it before church. You're literally on Twitter right now. It was still a good joke. I mean, either way. I have a laptop. This is on my phone. So, what's happening right now, Roy, is the general disbelief. The entire room does not believe that you could be off the devices for a couple of hours.

What time is church? 8.30. Alright. Okay. Doable. If it was 10 a.m., you are a liar, my friend. 8.30. What time is church 830? Yeah, what time did you wake up around 7, okay, yeah, no this makes Poop in the morning. Let's see if you tweeted between 7 you always poop in the morning every morning. You don't check your phone No, you have I'm trying to get up out of there man agree That has nothing to do with it. You're in a rush. That kind of helps. No it does. Yeah. No it does

Yeah, I wouldn't check my phone if I had to try So holy in the church you exclaimed it and what happened? I got glaring looks at what you doing, cursing at church. So what did you explain? Like Luca got traded and then they're like, okay, yeah, no, peace be with you. No, I was in the middle of a pastor talking

so I can't do it. Princess Claire was there? No, she was in the kids section. So she didn't hear me. Ah, the kids section. I'm not really sure I know what to do with you, not checking your phone during toilet time, but checking your phone in the middle of a sermon. It happens sometimes, you know. Really?

Yeah, sometimes, you know, they say the same thing over and over. Yeah, same message. It seems like near the confessional booth, shouting, holy shit, in church would also be something that would qualify as something akin to sin, would it not? Well, I guess. Well, that's a Catholic thing, isn't it? Like, I don't know how that works. What is? Confessional? Confessional. Oh, confession, yeah. He said confession.

But forgive me, Father, for I have sinned. I checked my phone during the sermon and not when I was pooping. How does that work, though? Aren't you already saved? Like, all your sins have already been forgiven after you accept the deity of Christ? Yeah, after the whole baptism thing. So then you're good? Yeah, I got asked for forgiveness every now and then, but yeah. Baptism is for original sin, I thought. Okay, so it depends on the religion. Yeah. I'm just trying to learn here. Are you saying the priest melded in, Roy, with the sermon yesterday? I'm not saying that it was melded in, I'm just saying, you know, I forgot to check my phone so I looked at it and said, oh.

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