The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Nacho Le Batard

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Billy, Chris, Jeremy, Jessica, and Tony. Dan is enjoying another day in costume as we kick things off talking about Max Strus's magical fourth quarter, one of the best buzzer beaters we've ever seen, and P.J. Washington's hilarious response. Then, Damian Lillard is bored in Milwaukee, Billy and Jeremy argue who's better between the Cavaliers and Heat, and Jessica is sick of Stugotz's Wisconsin slander. Plus, David Samson is here to discuss his Cease and Desist with the Hee Haw Three, Paul McCartney caping up for Foreigner, and Wendy's upcoming surge pricing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. I have mentioned that these grid of death punishments make doing the show more difficult and the one I'm presently wearing is difficult for a number of different reasons. My mask is tight in all the wrong places. I have hair underneath. I don't know that it's clear from what I'm wearing that I'm not your Libre because you're evidently, he usually didn't wear the mask,

but also my nipples are showing. It is really cold in here. And furthermore, the pants are really tight in a way that's uncomfortable. And I don't want anyone to see what's going on down with the pants. Like I'm gonna have to conceal that throughout the show. And as an added bonus,

I can't wear my glasses with a wrestler's mask on. So I can't read any of my notes or anything that I've written down. But let's be honest, you love this. I mean, you do. You love it. Someone described you as giddy earlier when they saw you kind of print through the office

through your studio. That is a fault hoods. Like that is not it. It's not true in any way. There's not, I came through like you could have seen the shame on me covering my nipples with my hands. There, there was no giddy on coming through here with this punish. You honestly look fantastic. You do. Yeah. Surprisingly chiseled. I mean, seriously. Yeah. Yeah. I can't stop looking. I want to take a consensus. I want to take a vote. Do you guys think Dan likes this? Like rate show of hands for the people who think Dan does like this. Let's do the joke of whether Dan gets annoyed

or not by falsehoods. That's not a joke we've ever done before. Let's do that one. I agree though. I agree that he rarely wears the mask So I'm cool with you just being shirtless with the cape on well The cape is also uncomfortable the tassels fit in all the wrong spots It does anyone know that with the mask does anyone know that I obviously I'm going for wrestler But can anyone tell that it's not your Libra or do I have to take them the mask off? I think it's a color scheme. I think you you've seen that color scheme before, I think you can get it. All right. I want to start, Stu, guys, by talking about the cool story last night from basketball,

because Max Strews had a fourth quarter for all time. He played five minutes, he made five threes, and he produced, get that camera away from my nipples, please. It's a little too close Push that camera back. It looks better far away. Thank you. I appreciate that Stugans there's a number of stuff that's great in this video We will get to both the sad call and the happy call of this game But let's just play for the audience that did not see this Dallas is playing Cleveland and PJ Washington makes a surprisingly easy shot at the rim with two seconds left and

Let's not go to that one first I want to show the whole shot before I show PJ Washington because PJ Washington's reaction is the funniest thing in this entire video But I will tell you again Max Drew's last night was playing in a game Cleveland and Dallas and they're down 10 and in five minutes, he made five threes, five fourth quarter minutes. He made, he went five for five from three. He did it in like 45 seconds, the first four of them, because they were down one 10 to 100 with three minutes and 42 seconds left.

He hits the first three, then after a turnover, another three, then after a Kyrie turnover, another three. Then after a Kyrie three, another three. Then after another miss by Dallas, it's another three to get them within one, and then that three at the end. So God, the scoring in this board is so crazy. What was it that Kevin Love did

against the Sacramento Kings a couple of nights ago? Was it 19 points in 15 minutes or 19 points? Something like that, yeah. And seven rebounds in 15 minutes or 19 something like that. And seven rebounds in, in 15 minutes. So Struce makes five, five threes in the fourth quarter. And let's just play the ridiculousness of this last stretch here. Leave it to him bound just to the left of the cabs bench. All we need to do is flex it.

Has deflected by Mowgli, but grab by Donchich. Donchich bounce underneath the PJ and he laid it in with 2.6 to go. Cams out of timeout, screws into Mobley, back to Max, half court shot. Good, good! He hit it! Cams win! This place is going crazy! The rest of this is just celebrating and stuff and I want to get to the sad call in a second but I believe the funniest part of this is the reaction of PJ Washington. Again, there's chaos with two seconds left. You never get the shot that Donchich got PJ Washington at the end of the game unless everyone's

scattered. So he makes it at the rim and watch this to God. He's flexing the whole way. The whole way he's flexing down the court. Game's over in his mind. He's flexing. He keeps flexing. Struse's shot goes up. He keeps flexing. And then left hand to the left ear, like my father, when he's faked the hand shake and he's pretending to run his hand through his hair. Like here, I'm shaking my hand, I want you to shout, oh nope, I'm going to scratch my head, I was mean to do that anyways.

Do you realize how rare it is for PJ Washington to get a flexing game-winning moment on a team that includes Kyrie Irving and Luca? He had his moment. He did premature flex. I mean maybe play a little D down the court. Yeah. And geez flex in the whole game. Game's not over. 75. Get him. He's on fire. He let Struce run right by him while flexing. A guy who's never played hoop. That's what it is. He just stand there and flex at mid-core while Struce runs by him.

What happens is if you play defense at that point and you get a foul call, 75 feet from the basket, they go to the offer either the line and shoot three shots of you. I'm not saying you get contact with them. I'm saying make some sort of gesture in his direction. He knows you're wrong. Make them uncomfortable.

Tony, you're saying leave him alone? You're saying flex and don't pay attention. The guy hit four threes in 44 seconds according to me. Tony, it's 75 feet. It's three quarters of the corner away from the basket. Well, like a half quarter. You don't defend that. You can't go near that, man. 75 Quarters of the quarter away You don't defend that you can't go near that man get a hand in the face without fouling Guys, they never call that foul, and I'm not saying touch it until they do. I'm not saying hit him I'm saying make one step of effort in his direction

So we're watching on TV right now, so he passed it in nobody supposed to be around him He's look at the all All right, I'm just saying see but you're you're mad at what Luca did all I'm saying is do what Luca did there You just looked at me like I'm an idiot. I will not allow The group of people here to take a three-quarters shot and second guess the defense I'm not gonna allow that you guys to see that sports moment and be like, well, somebody could have done something better against it. We just made fun of PJ Washington. What are we doing here? It's the second longest game winner in the history of the league. Yeah. Defense was irrelevant, but get a hand

in the face and then pal him on the inbound. They get the longest. Come on. Just keep fouling them because the hand in the face works so often in NBA basketball. Get a hand in the face. So still guts can be there when you get the hand in the face and he can get more of your hand in charge or fall. I'm gonna block the shot. You know, he's going to be charging aggressively to take a shot. Take a charge. Are we happy for Shrews? I mean, he has to shoot exactly right. And he's gonna be charging aggressively to take a shot take a charge. Are we happy for shrews? I mean he has to shoot exactly right, right, and he's got to do it quick. So he's gonna be running. Yeah How do heat fans experience that last night? I know I'm a heat Oh, it's just happy for him. Yeah me too. He made the right choice, right? It's just great and fun. He got his money He's on a better team. Yeah

He is careful. It's statistically true. Um, they're the two Seed. They don't want to see us in the playoffs. No one is taking the Cavs seriously. Like everyone, some people say they like Boston, some people like the box, some people say the heat. You know what? I am going to jump on the Cavs bandwagon. How about that? Uh, based on no facts, that's the way that you do that. Uh, the two seed, I will say a couple of interesting things You said two seed but the distance between one and two in the east is larger than the distance between one and eight and the West seven and a half back so your argument five and a half nothing And beyond that I would say that Cleveland was exceptional last year and the reason no one believes in them is because they lost so soundly to your Nicks in the first round. It's the reason why that team, I thought that next team was going to drag the

next and the reason the people believe in the next this year and don't believe in the calves this year is that first round series is that going when you lose to the next that way everyone knows don't trust them. Do you guys really not think the calves are better team than the heat? I believe that they were all of last year, but I better offensively. They're better defensively. They have a better point differential by like five points a game. How do you guys simply the heat are simply going to be measured by what they've

done the last four years. People still fear them because of what they've done the last four years. It's not going to be a regular season measurement. Speaking of which, I want to speak about what it is that they did last night because a lot of people were enjoying Billy you're right. This year. They're crazy people. He made such a sound argument. They are over the span of this regular season thus far. The culture I guess.

Well, no, they have to. I have to. The culture. The most disciplined, hardest working. There's got to be one. Except for the suspensions for fighting. The last 11 games they won nine of their last 11. I mean, we don't have to do any of that.

No, Billy is right. This team has measured differently than most of them, but I would say that most of the doubt that you have out west of Minnesota, for example, who has been great. And even a Boston who has been better than everybody, the measurement this year, because of what the heat did in

the playoffs is show me in the playoffs because we don't think the 82 games mean anything. That's fair. It's why you trust the nuggets in the West. You do even though they're the three seed right now. I don't particularly care. You're right, Billy. Over the course of the first half of the season, it is not up for dispute. The calves are better than the Miami Heat. However, I believe what people were watching last night late in Portland when they were making fun of Joe Cronin's, due to God's, because last night, if you are a Miami Heat lover who enjoys hating on other teams, you got a couple of things happening. A whole lot of people were dragging the Portland GM who lost by 10 to a short-handed

heat team last night for the quote and the story that he gave Adrian Wojnarowski. This is followed him around. This is Joe Krohn in the GM of the Portland Trailblazers talking about how difficult he had it in trading Lillard and how he was, you know, ruining his future job life because his focus was eliminate the emotion, the frustration, the fatigue, and most of all, Cronin implored himself, don't settle, don't let yourself settle. And his team stings and all the players he didn't take from the heat are the ones scoring all over the place.

And now Lillard in Milwaukee is giving quotes to God. These quotes I was not expecting to see. Okay. He's sad. He's lonely. He has no life. He is saying in Milwaukee, just goes home and refreshes YouTube all the time to see if there are fresh fights on YouTube and fights and further life in your thirties. Like that's what I do. Also, Miami. Oh, he'd have a lot more stuff to do in Miami.

But the point is you made your bed. Now you got to sleep in it. Don't, don't come to complain me telling me that, oh, Milwaukee kind of sucks. I only do this and that. Yeah, buddy, you signed up. You've never been to Milwaukee before. I've been to Milwaukee.

I knew that. He is saying that his Milwaukee life now, and the best thing that people will usually say about Milwaukee is that it's close to Chicago. You can get there in about 90 minutes. His life, Lillard superstar life, he says, is going home and praying that fight hype has refreshed on YouTube with new fights. So prayer that your YouTube refreshes.

And also he gives you this quote, which is not surprising, but to hear him say it out loud, him say it out loud of Milwaukee season, I thought we was going to be how Boston is right now. Cause Boston is a lot better than everybody and they're making it look easy and people still have doubts about Boston just because of what Miami did to them last year and because they lose game sevens at home. What's Dame doing about it? I mean, about being as good as Boston.

I mean, they got him to be as good as Boston, to be better than Boston. And all he's doing is complaining about Wisconsin. Well, I love the state of Wisconsin. Kenosha, one of my favorite places on the planet. There's nothing to do. I mean, so what he has nothing to do. You know what he's there to do? To do something he's never done before, which is win an NBA championship. That's what he's there to do. He's not

there to party, he's not there to go to the beach, he's not there to drink. He is there for business. He is there to do something that has escaped him his entire career and that is winning. Well, when I told you, you know, you just mentioned what's he doing to help Milwaukee be like Boston. I told you yesterday that Milwaukee has one of the top five most efficient offenses in the history of the sport. They don't play any defense and it's a problem. And that doesn't win in the playoffs and they're still very good. But the reason they're not Boston is because they don't play any defense. Can I go back to calves? Can I go back to calves? He first second Billy was saying that we're crazy. I just texted Tom Habistrow. Oh good

He's and he said that he goes by the numbers in a series where the calves are at home The heat would be favored after last year's playoffs. No bookmaker is gonna favor the calves Okay, I'm just saying I'm just giving you actual information But the heat in the month of February the heat had the best defense in the NBA They won nine of their last 11. There were eight games over 500 for the second time this season, after losing seven in a row, where we were all worried about their offense and their defense. Now Jimmy Butler's back playing the most efficient basketball he's played all year. I mean, look, the Cavs are

the better team over the course of what 58 games of the regular season. Sure. But Dan, you mentioned it. They lost to the Knicks in the first round last year and until they change it Maybe they got a bit of that culture coming for Max Streus, but until they changed that I don't anticipate But it's not good because Max no it's not no no Are you gonna take every argument against what we're saying like you were just arguing in favor Because Max brought culture he's saying that's the difference in their team the tabs. No, I was asking. No, it's not better because the attention's in me. That's what you're saying, they're better because Max Streus brought culture. He's saying that's the difference in their team.

The difference in their team this year is culture is having a player like Max Streus available to them who they signed for big money for a reason. And being able to win in the playoffs is a different thing. Like, this Miami Heat team, Zach Harper said it on his podcast a couple of weeks ago outside of the Celtics. He'd be the least surprised to see the heat when the Eastern Conference. And there's a reason for that. The regular season has not mattered in the same way

for this team over the last several years. I would like to continue and someone helped me with this because I'm tired of saying it. I want some sound, some device that electrocutes people around here when they use the word culture. I'm sick of hearing it. Shuster. And I, the reason Cleveland lost in the playoffs last year is because their front line got decimated by Mitchell Robinson. It's not something anyone saw coming.

It's not a sentence you thought you would ever say. And so it doesn't have to do with culture. It has to do with they couldn't rebound anything and they've got mobly and how can they not rebound everything? Because of Mitchell Robinson. That's what happened. It was confusing to me how good Mitchell Robinson looked in that series. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. Now, you've had the distinct privilege of knowing me for close to 18 years, and you know that I've changed.

A lot of my personal life has changed. I've changed as a professional. I am a parent now. My level of involvement in my favorite college football program has also changed. But one thing that hasn't changed for me is my favorite beer. You know when it's real with me.

I think you do anyways. And you know how much I love Miller Lite. I've loved it forever, really. It's my favorite beer of all time, and it made all the great moments in my life all that much better. And when Miller Lite came aboard on our show, I was super stoked about it because I believed in the product. Because every time I take a sip of Miller Lite, I look around and I think, yeah, this was the right call. Times change. People like me can change but you can always enjoy the great taste of Miller Lite. Taste like Miller time. To get

Miller Lite delivered right to your door visit MillerLite.com slash Dan. Or you can try to find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly Miller Brewing Company Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories per 12 ounces. Don Libatard! It's been a loooooly cruise. Oh man, that's my outro. That's, you know, as my casket is being lowered. Jesus. You know, I'll have been cremated a week before,

but we'll do the casket thing just for show. And as my casket is being lowered. Wait a minute. Well, we'll... Empty casket? Yeah, it'll close. You know, just for show. Well, what's the redundancy there?

You know, I mean, we're gonna put on a public display. Yeah, naturally. Stugats! What do you do with the ashes? You're doing a lovely cruise. Exactly, maybe we'll throw them over, my wife will throw them overboard. And she's necking with her new husband. This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugads! Presented by DraftKings Fantasy Sports, check out what DraftKings has to offer this season

with code Dan because life's more fun when you're in on the action. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Gambling problem, call 1-800 Gamble, agent eligibility restrictions apply, point of prohibit, see draftkings.com for details. I'm sick of the Wisconsin slander, by the way. Madison's a great, a great little town. Great college town. Maddie. You can hit the road, go up to Hayward. The world's largest musky is there.

It's like the freshwater fishing hall of fame in Hayward, Wisconsin. There's tons of things to do in Wisconsin if you like fishing. Give me the start of the day, please. Start of the day, start of the day. And this year, start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day. And this year, start of the day The Miami Heat have won more games in Portland this month than Portland. I mean, thanks Joe Cronin. I want to play Damien Lillard here just talking about

the top five players in the NBA. See if you notice here any omissions that are noticeable or any additions that are noticeable as Damien Lillard talks about top five people he wants to play with. You could create your own starting five. What's your team? It would be me, LeBron, Steph, Kevin Durant, and I'm a go with Bam out of bio. Giannis? Was that this season?

Man, that's while he's on the box. Not saying Giannis. While you're on the box is wild. You just have to lie. He's played with him already. So he's talking about guys that he hasn't played with, like to play with. We should replay that video. I don't think that's what the question was. Let's replay the video and see if we can trap

Damian Lillard on not liking Yannis and liking Bam more than Yannis. You could create your own starting five. What's your team? It would be me, LeBron, Steph, Kevin Durant, and I'm going to go with Bam out of bio. I mean, That's the didn't say your own starting five. Not guys you have played with or don't want to play with or do want to play with it. You don't presently. You have to also pick his brother. It'd be like if someone's like what radio host already to what radio host do you want to work for? And I was like, my green, my Greenberg, Colin Cowherd, Pat McAfee, Bill Simmons, and

Riscilla. Can I give you a hot take? The Bucks are going to be fine in the playoffs. Really? Yeah, the regular season for the NBA doesn't matter. You just... He takes every hard one. No, I'm just saying it doesn't matter. You guys are dismissing the Cavs, saying they're not good, and it's like, well, they have been better in the regular season, but it doesn't matter. But defense are dismissing the Cavs saying they're not good. And it's like, well, they have been better in the regular season, but it doesn't matter. But defense matters. The Bucks will be fine in the playoffs. Will play defense in the playoffs?

They're gonna have Damian Litter and Giannis in the playoffs. They'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a telephone. They'll be okay. I'm with you, totally. And Middleton. He's right. They're gonna play the Sixers without him.

That he made it to the finals is an eight seed last year. Like the playoffs, the regular season is irrelevant in the NBA. I don't know why we put so much weight on it. Well, one other thing that is also irrelevant cause I don't think anyone's putting any weight on it. I believe that that's- Well, we're talking about it.

Like if it matters. Well, it happens to be the sport that's going on right now. But it doesn't matter. That most people- It's outside of football season, Bill. Well, Stugans has a top five list of things we talk about because it's outside of football season, Bill. Well, Stugatz has a top five list of things we talk about because it's outside of football season. He's got a number of top five lists available to him

and everything that you're saying there is fair, but when it comes to illegitimate commentary though, and I saw this on Jessica's face, I'm not sure if I recognize that or not, but Stugatz coming out a day after, right? I really, I flinch every time around here. We make fun of some city being terrible because I think of all the listeners we have in that city who are hurt by Stugatz condescending their city. So yesterday, he

went after all of Indiana while today saying how Wisconsin is one of his favorite places and I simply don't believe that the words he's saying are anything but flabbergasting lies. Jessica, I know you tend to support Stugots and most of his stupidities, but I thought I saw in your face something that registered my God. How can he say that with a straight face? It's the constant shitting on the Midwest for me, Dan. I support Stugots in almost all of his endeavors, but you said it. Indiana, now Wisconsin, what next?

Minnesota? Iowa? Iowa? Illinois? I love Chicago. Yeah. Great city. I love Evanston.

I said I love Kenosha, one of my favorite cities in the United States of America. Indiana, I ripped on Monday, Wisconsin. I ripped a year ago when I had to go to Marquette. Okay, Billy, I see your reaction there. And when you betray Stugans, now I know it's my Howard Dean reference that I made in the middle of hoping anyone would catch that. I thought that's what that was. Please tell me more Stugans about all the things you love about Kenosha. Just go. That's a great city. I got to tell you, Dan, that city, the main street on that city is so fantastic. It has a mom and pop hardware store. There are tons of things to do. Great

bars, great. What tons of things are there to name a bar in Kenosha, Wisconsin? There's Sally's. Okay. Check it out. Look it up. Mustang Sally's. I believe it's called. I think it's a little bit off main street, but you should go check it out if you're in the, uh, Kenosha area. That's all I have. They have one bar. It's a small town. It's quaint. It's from another time, Dan. It really is industrial. You see all the smoke coming out of the stacks there. It's like all the pollution, all the pollution, all the smog and pollution. It's blue collar, Dan. That's what it is. A bunch of people working hard, just trying to get through the day and pay their bills. You know, I love them.

Clay's tap. Oh, I forgot about Clay's tap, one of the all time great bars in Wisconsin. It really is one of my top five bars in Wisconsin. I just set myself up for you asking me top five bars in Wisconsin. I don't have another four. Crispy's tavern. Oh, I love that place. I love his dyslexia. When he puts the R before the E and tavern, tavern. Yeah. It's a tough one. But I love a good tab. If you know what I'm saying, you get some good beef stew there. You get some good shepherd's pie there. You get a couple of nice beers, you know, some good chicken wings. Great scene. They have trivia night every Wednesday.

a couple of nice beers, you know, some good chicken wings, great scene. They have trivia night every Wednesday. The other thing we got wrong, I got a couple of things wrong. Yeah. Yesterday, every day, evidently, I left out the rat race lounge. What a great place. Drink specials every Thursday night. Great jukebox. They have a cigarette machine in there. They do old school. I can't argue with this because I think, I think Chris is just reading him. He is. I'm watching all of the things Stugats is making up about the rat race. The rat race lounge has a cigarette machine. I'm watching Chris Cody. Been there.

Look up everything. And I believe he also emailed or texted Stu got some menu from a local tavern I love cheese curds Charlie's 10th hole Dan it is fantastic it's a nine hole golf course usually the bar is the 19th hole go f*** yourself they have the 10th hole Don Lebatard. You gotta know I'm a big Colombo guy. Salute to that boy. Okay, I don't think that's a lie.

I don't think that's a lie. I don't think that's a lie. I don't think that is evidence. Salute to that boy. It suggests camouflage. It suggests that Juju has no idea what we're talking about and now it's just Googling it. Stugats!

I'm not Googling it. My grandma stayed in the country. I watched the Braves, I watched Colombo, I watched Matlot, I watched Andy Griffin. Yeah, I'm classic. If you go to the penalty box, Dan, Dan take your way into the penalty box. You tell them Juju! I'm your liar. You tell them Juju! You tell him, Juju! You tell him, Juju!

Matt, they used to. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugards. Music Yesterday on the show, David Sampson came on and read a cease and desist on Greg Cody. It really kind of backfired on him trying to just do business correctly and professionally. And a lot of people have written in complaining about just in general all of it. I can't do any more merch store drama, bleep the merch store.

I'm so tired of hearing about the merch store as content. I think we all need to boycott it so it'll close down. They can't still be trying to make content out of this. Who needs $40 T-shirts anyways? Rise up, cancel the merch store. There is a new discount code at the merch store. He ha 21. It's 21% off all Vegas themed items. It is more than the Samsung sucks. 20 discount of 20% and it is live now. levitar to af.com. That went more poorly for you than I imagine

that you thought it would, right? You are over here just trying to enforce rules and Greg Cody is braying laughter in your face. I was just doing the job that you asked me to do and it was not a bit, it was just something that had to be communicated and it was much easier to do on the air because it's hard to reach Greg. He's such a superstar now.

He doesn't take calls, he doesn't do anything, but Greg Gody's show and does he still write for the Herald? He does. I don't know if he does columns anymore, but between your show and his show, the only way to do it is on your show. But I think the bigger point is a real point. There's great stuff on lebatardaf.com and we just have to be clear to everybody who owns what.

And Dan, you were very clear to me that you own all. Jeremy, I was not very clear to you. You and I did not have that conversation. Skipper took the merch store as soon as we came over. So to be clear, after yesterday's merch store subject being not going well, we're doing it again today. That is correct. as soon as we came over. So to be clear, after yesterday's merch store subjects being not going well, we're doing it again today. That is correct.

Also, on top of that, Jeremy was told, how about this one? He learned second hand that they're now turning down tour dates, that Greg Cody turned it down when Jeremy wanted to do it. Yeah, that's where the money's made. We've all seen from the Eris tour that you can make money off of touring. It's not about the merch, it's about the tours.

And I'm finding out by listening to this show that Greg Cody is turning down possible money making opportunities for us in our touring days. I'm not happy about this. It seems like Greg and Yeti are sort of creating their own business. They are, yes.

Where they're like, he haught too and excluding me from a lot. And I'm not enjoying that. Well, Greg is a front man, it's his band band right. He's the lead singer. He decides what listen. He has to feel like he's in the mood Well, no, no Where the He-Ha three we're supposed to be a unit Unbelievable think the Rolling Stones tour without Mick Jagger one to tour. Yep Thank you for mentioning that because we've got some Paul McCartney video

that I wanna play for you and the audience here about foreigner. Foreigner has been nominated for the Hall of Fame. I introduced my wife to foreigner recently and told her they should be in the Hall of Fame. What's Paul McCartney saying about foreigner in the Hall of Fame? Farmer?

Not in the Hall of Fame? What the fuck? Ha! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Not in the Hall of Fame. What the fuck? What was that? I'll play it again for you just so that you understand more specifically. Not in the Hall of Fame. What the fuck? How old is McCartney? He's like 81. What does he think that noise is at the end? I don't even know what it was. Let's try it again. Farmer, not in the Hall of Fame.

What the fuck? Samson, foreigner in the Hall of Fame? Should they be in the Hall of Fame? Absolutely. I can't live for, is it, I can't live for loving you. That's not one of their top five songs. You don't even know, Dave, so how can you say absolutely? Five songs, cold as ice. But this reminds even know days. Oh, you say absolutely songs cold as I you know

But this reminds me Dan guys like guys like Warner expert. Uh guys like Sammy Sosa Guys and Sammy Sosa not in the Hall of Fame You know foreigner not in the Hall of Fame. What the fuck was foreigner on steroids? I'd like to we'll talk about some sports business stuff, but something that I wanted to talk to you and the room about. I have thought throughout my life that Wendy's has one of the great fast food values anywhere in food. I like their fries, I like their frosty, but now they're doing dynamic pricing and I can't believe how poorly it's being received where during busy hours like the sun pass, do gots, in a form of gouging, they're going to raise prices. They're announcing that they're raising prices beginning in 2025.

What are your thoughts there, Samson, because the reaction to it has been very poor. Yeah, I think that it came out, it didn't come out from a PR, it actually came out in an earnings call where they were projecting what's happening in 2025 and there were big expenses that are incurred in 24 to make all the boards digital, all the menu boards digital at Wendy's because that's the only way you can have dynamic pricing. So the board had to get explained in earnings and analysts, et cetera. But let's talk about dynamic pricing. It reflects actually what people are willing to pay

for a product at any given time. Ball parks have had dynamic pricing for over a decade now. And that is the difference between what used to be A level games, some people call them gold games, and then silver games and bronze games. And the reason why that was stopped is opposing team owners did not want to be categorized by the home team as being a bronze team or a, you know, a unshiny object. So they changed it to this dynamic pricing where, hey, let the fans decide what they're

going to pay for a ticket. And I think this is the beginning, not the end. It's sort of like streaming. You better get used to it. Dynamic pricing at fast food, that's not going away. Can't they just do it without announcing it? Because I feel like more people, like I feel like that's an easier way. The PR, like, of just this headline, it's just not a good look. They had to discuss it during an earnings call. And these earnings calls go public, but the rules are when you're a public company,

you are forecasting, you're projecting, you're explaining, and then you're trying to get the street, Wall Street, to understand where your company's supposed to go. And so that's how it was announced. But remember it was announced for 2025, but all the headlines are now, but by the time it happens, none of us will be, we'll remember it.

We'll just know that the fries are more during the busy time. I'm glad this is happening because you know what? It's gonna make me not go to Wendy's whenever they're, like I don't know if I'll ever go to Wendy's again. I'm sorry. It's over. You'll go again.

No. The spicy chicken. No. I got spicy chicken. I got spicy chicken in other places. I can go to Chick-fil-A, I can go to anywhere else that has spicy chicken. They should have partnered with Wemby and called themselves for six months Wemby's.

All of a sudden, good PR. We're back. That's it. Do you think this is going to hurt their business, David? No, I actually don't because the whole purpose is to actually get people in when it's not as crowded. And so you're actually getting more business during off times for the people who are looking for more value. And those people that go during the busy times are there because it's part of their schedule, it's part of their daily routine,

and they're gonna pay the extra 30 cents for fries or whatever the price is for the burger. That's the whole concept of dynamic pricing. And it has been proven over and over again to work that there are people who will pay the premium and that's who you're catering to pun not intended and the people who don't want to pay the premium let them come at 2 a.m. so Wendy's is doing what's called a reverse happy hour so an unhappy hour so if you walk in and you're like hey I need a burger and they're like great buddy it's another two bucks you're like damn what the hell I thought

it was happy hour no unhappy, unhappy hour. Sorry. Have you ever got taxi in New York City during prime time hours? There's more fees. Not everything should be surge pricing. This is, this is, oh God, these are the issues with late stage capitalism. No, Jeremy, Jeremy, if you ran a business, you would do exactly what Jeremy one second. If you ran a business, you would do exactly what Wendy's doing. Jeremy, one second. If you ran a business, you would do exactly what it is that Wendy's is doing. It's why I don't want to run a business. It's no different than the express lane on the term pike.

Like if you go there during a heat game and they jack it up to $15, I'm getting in that lane. I don't care. I have a problem with that too. We shouldn't be doing surge pricing everywhere. People can't afford this shit. Like this is a problem with fast food services. This is not meant for rich people. The premise is that it should be affordable. Go at 4 PM. The CEO of Kellogg said that we should eat cereal to make up for that.

By the way, Wendy's at 2 AM is better than Wendy's at 6 PM. Agreed. Thank you. Put it on the poll. Oh, it's cheaper too. At Levitar show, do you like cereal for dinner? Jeremy, your outrage is the correct way to feel about this. Stu gots being pro gouging, not surprising in any way whatsoever. But just saying everything to be cheaper is just kind of, that's not what I'm saying. But it's, it's disproportionately affects poor people whose health is disproportionately affected by being able to afford fast food.

Fast food is not affordable now anyways. Nothing is. It's kind of insane. Nothing is. You go to fast food, you get a meal for three, it's like $34. Inflation has hurt a lot of people in a lot of different ways and this is the way that Uber and Lyft do it. Is it the future, David? It's the present.

So I hear what Jeremy's saying, but they've been changing the price of parking for playoff games since before LeBron came. During the shack run, the pricing to go to a heat game changes. Playoff ticket prices are more than a regular season game that you're all calling irrelevant. So there's been this sort of pricing

for premium product all the time. We're all calling irrelevant. So there's been this sort of pricing for premium product all the time. We're just calling it something different and dynamic pricing you should all love because that's true supply demand. So I love that the CEO of Wendy's will get to hoard even more wealth now. Awesome. But like a hamburger at 4pm versus a hamburger at 1pm is not a premium product. It's the exact same product. Yep. Fast food isn't a premium product. If you're telling me I'm getting Wagyu beef, I'm going to pay whatever it is to get that Wagyu beef, but I'm getting whatever it is that they're

giving me that I probably shouldn't be eating anyway. It's the time, not the product. It's the affecting disproportionately of poor people and the gouging that is offensive. It's like the lack of consumer protection that like companies will just continue to, Billion Tony are arguing over the pronunciation. Dan, I'm gonna go over there and like fly Chokeslam Billy. I swear to you Dan. I didn't say anything, man.

I swear to you Dan. Do you want the Nacho Libre costume? Have you ever been on an airplane and had to choose a different time because there's a lower price if you take a seven AM flight versus an 11 AM flight. Off-peak, yeah. Travel is a luxury also. I think that that's not even the point though because there are people that think that airlines price gouge and that's bad and there should be some

sort of limit to it especially because in this country there's not really many ways to get around compared to in Western Europe where you can take a flight for $50 somewhere, take a train for $50 somewhere in the US, you're limited by your options. Yeah, obviously it's a big country, but Europe is also very large. It's a bad comparison, and this is besides the point, we're talking about a product that is like $5, $4.

This is just a terrible decision in PR to not just say, hey, we're raising our prices, but we're gonna have happy hour now, like Tony said. We're gonna do, if you come between four and six, you get a dollar off your Baconator, or you get a 50 cents off your Frosty, and instead they're like, hey, no, we're gonna do dynamic pricing,

because we're a stupid little tech company. Would it be better? Would you guys like it better if it was just all prices it be better? My burger. Would you guys like it better if it was just all prices are up? There we are. If you guys pay attention. They are, they have been going all over the years. They already are.

I know, I'm just saying, if this headline was, If they also, fast food places also have different prices based on location. Like so you can go to a McDonald's here and a McDonald's five blocks, and if you pay attention, it's like 30 cents different. There's different prices at every McDonald's.

It's not quite what we're presently talking about though. We're talking about this for a reason. Dynamic price. We've got more with Samson next. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. Now, you've had the distinct privilege of knowing me for close to 18 years and you know that I've changed.

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