The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Not Dead But Not Alive

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

Dan, Stugotz and David Samson discuss Billy cutting the cord but still having to buy all of the apps to watch Marlins games, Tony is from the Stugotz tree of scamming, the Baltimore Orioles are actually good and Samson's movie review of Kurt Angle. Plus, the dirtiest money in the MLB and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Next step, Brazil. Yeah. Horsesom were in between. At Desjardins Business, we help over 400,000 Canadian entrepreneurs by speaking the same language, business. There is a good amount to talk about here locally because Billy Gill does not have the stamina. He does not have the strength for a Marlins playoff run, but you've got the highest praise that I could give the Marlins in terms of electrifying this local audience is that stu got fake metz fan at this point in his life doesn't recognize his short stop right got

pretended why should I pretended to get excited pretended about Steve Cohen spending a whole bunch of money I was excited at the time okay but I'm not really you're just sort you've been going through the motions on your Met's fandom. Even when they were winning a hundred games, you were like, ah, you weren't that into it. It's fair. But last night, Stu got's made a bet on Met's Marlins. And the Marlins played a meaningful game, Billy Gill, and a fun game and a dramatic game and a fun game, and a dramatic game, and a scary game just like the one before it, in September.

That's crazy, Billy. I have, I don't have the stamina, as you mentioned before, but this is what I do have a bone to pick. Whoa! Wow, he sports. You're picking a bone? I have a bone to pick with them. Nice.

Because here's a thing, Dan. I, as a Gen Zier, is that right? Am I a Gen Zier? Why is a Gen Zier. Is that right am I a Gen Zier? Why is a Gen Zier as I'm gonna describe myself? I'm also a cord cutter now and I canceled my cable. Yeah, I canceled my cable and I registered for Hulu plus live TV Wow, and that's it feel it's been great Honestly, so I've been doing that to save some money I also am getting my internet through another provider Wow, so I cut the cord with Comcast which is which is tricky because there's so many cords involved with cord cutting

I have just as many cords and cables as I did before so I don't entirely understand the name the cord cutter But I cut the cord now Hulu plus live sports has live sports just not my hometown team So then I need to go and I need to subscribe to the ballie sports app, which is quite pricey my day I had so I was doing that and that's how I have to watch my marlins now There's ballie sports son and there's ballie sports Florida. Welcome to the future by the way. I hate it I Need more. I mean, I well I have my ways about getting around getting certain discounts and let me just tell you the secret

There's always a new email you can set up to take advantage of codes This needs imaging because this is a lane for you whisper Disco I don't want to say it too loud because that people are gonna find out my tricks And then I'm gonna cost myself right whisper discounts is something that nobody else on this show is doing yeah And you're good at it. Yeah. You're better at it than most. But Dan, when you're aware of a discount, you don't share the discount. I know, but it's, but saying it out of the side

of your mouth on a podcast that gets millions of downloads a week, also not private. Well, I know, but that's why I don't try to try to just keep moving. And if you're here and if you don't, you don't. So anyways, this is what the thing is, it's quite pricey, Dan. And if I want ballet sports,, Florida and ballad sports,

son, it would cost me $30 a month for those two channels, which is like, by the way, insane, like insane, to pay that $30 a month for two channels. So I'm like, I'm just gonna pay for the one that has the Marlins on. And even that $20 a month, and I was like, you know what, I found it for $14.99. You are at the intersection because of your age,

adulthood, because of family, because you want to save money You don't want to spend like a crazy person. You are at a crossroads technologically David Samson is uniquely qualified to discuss The intersection of business and how all this stuff is going to change because it's about to get really expensive to be a Die Hard sports fan about to it is no, but it's a I just keep adding stuff on okay keep adding stuff on. Okay, but it's about to if you're willing, you have money. You're not careful with your money. You bet on a Metz Marlant game. I did. I won.

What do you want into the ball against your team? Of course I did. Yeah. You said you never did that to the Jets. Well, I do. You don't care about the Metz. That's why Samson, you make what of what Billy is saying? How bad is this about to get for sports fans? Incidentally, I should tell you all the audience, nothing personal is the name of

his podcast. And even though he is envious of all the attention, Pablo Torrey finds out is getting Billy never got to his bone. Yeah, we'll get to it. Samson, we weren't going to get to Samson. Hold on to the bone. I want to hear the bone. You have to pick Samson does too. How much is this about to change for sports fans, or is it already changing so fast that you better be careful or you're gonna be spending hundreds

and hundreds of dollars a month just to keep up with the basics? You just have to have a spreadsheet. So this is the time to be like maybe a little OCD, have a list, keep track of what you're spending, and the purpose here is that Billy, you should only spend on what you want and you should spend on how you spend your time.

So if you're not watching a streaming network, get rid of it. If you are a Marlins fan, you're gonna have to get the ballies app, much like if you're a Yankees fan, it's the Yes app or a Nesson, if you're a Red Sox fan. So we really are giving the people what they want and you should be willing to pay for what you want. People just aren't willing to pay anymore

for what they don't want. So when you cut the cord, what it really means is you're only paying for that content that you personally are going to ingest. Now you just have to make budget decisions like the rest of the people. And not necessarily. I got a site that you can watch every sport,

every game for free, no questions asked, we make it happen. Find them, I love. What site is that? Oh, I can't say that over there. Where's the don't you dare? Are you doing that illegal thing that's... It's not illegal, Dan.

It's silver and Dana White are trying to stop people from bootlegging sports for free. Like, what do you do? Maybe what they're trying to stop is illegal when I have is not illegal for sure. This is the best. Samson, please. You can't have every Tony. You cannot have everything available to you.

Samson, he can't de-sams it. Samson, you don't have Samson. You do not understand how inventive and innovative Cuban people can be with this stuff. You have to understand that Tony's grandparents came over with educations and we're able to make like cars out of plumbing supplies. That's right. So he will get everything from for free. Now from a certain multiple educations of Miami. Well, now he has to buy a new computer every couple months as a result. That's a different story. Okay, but it's all allegedly legal.

Yes. 100% above board. No one eye open to any of the great time that billy can you uh... can you because you are not supportive of to any very much falsely in ways that i see uh... is he now angling for a lane that has been previously the undisputed domain of stugots is to any into more scams because of where he comes from in Miami. Then Stugat's no one's ever come from I'm more of a scammer than Stugat. But even Stugat's knows better than to start Jerry Rigg and his his wiring so he gets all the sports events for free.

I just don't know how. I can't Jerry Rigg or rigor wiring to get free. You have to help. I don't know about that. Yeah, the alarm bell started going off for me and Tony falling for these fraud schemes. Once he started talking about parcels of land in La Montanya. Oh, it's not just that. That's still for sale, little way.

There's stock acts. Of course it is. You'll be for sale in 10 years. Sam, so we'll get to you in a second. But my father knew so many of these guys. He knew so many collaudiards, and we'd watch, I didn't pay for anything in childhood. All the fights, everything, we stole them all

as a Cuban family. It was a tradition. And Tony comes from the same stuff. Tradition. One word, Dan. What tradition is that? A tradition of his i'm like an innovation thank you for saying the right word innovation is right the man tries to hold

us down we get to this country we're here to work the man tries to hold us down you know we do we can't sneak around it we're HBO box we're again for cable philosophically our grandparents are against government regulation of the the takes our money less power to the government steel power the the people there was a one day that he was rifling through an IG wallet And I saw an all-axis direct TV card full out of his wallet that a boy We will get to the bone that Billy has to pick in a second

It's something that I wanted to take up with you Samson. So all this time you've been the scammer Not like you though. Tony's coming for the big lane and it was my dad. It wasn't me. I was a child. I wasn't the one stealing and my father was stealing it. My father would also go to the grocery store, still does this and just reach into the candy bin that's out there. That's there for the taking and wander around saying that. Nothing wrong with that. Eating the manning eyes. Yes, eating them in the aisles, just stealing them. It's a taste test, Dan. Not a steal. It's taste test. These guys got these guys got mad Samson the other day because Scott Van Pelt, Proud

Baltimore guy started Sports Center on a football Monday with the Orioles. But to me, the Orioles are amazing as a story for a couple of reasons. We've been making fun of them for 20 years or once proud franchise. So much so stood out that the only player I remember from the last 10 years of Orioles baseball before this team was Buck Show Walter as the manager coming out and pulling his picture before the guy who had hit a home run arrived at third base. Buck was already on the mound before the trotter got home. Baltimore's been terrible. And now David, they're going to be better than the Yankees and the Red Sox for the next 10 years because all of

their players are young and 20 and their farm system is loaded. And they David disagrees. I mean, come on. The Yankees and Red Sox have proven that they'll spend whatever it takes to come at. They've got the advantage of all of their young play. They just explained to us how loaded this team isn't is about to be. They are absolutely loaded, but 10 years from now, they'll all be four years into free agencies. They'll be Yankees.

You were doing great until you said 10 years. David, they're bringing up guys now that are better than the guys they have. Like this team is overwhelming. The Orioles are that strong. They might take them a couple of years to learn it, but this team is gonna be good for the next five years. Oh, okay, now we're down to five.

Okay, whatever. It never works out that way though. Like everybody always thinks that this team is gonna, I think you win one championship where you go on a run and it's like, oh, they're gonna dominate forever and just, they rarely do. The Dodgers. They can all get hurt.

My point is, if you've got young cheap guys, you can compete in that sport even if you don't have money is my point. But eventually they get expensive. So we had a bunch of young cheap guys and we were able to compete, win, got a world series, but then they get more expensive and you let them go because you have no choice. The Orioles are in a position where they don't have the revenue that the Red Sox and Yankees have and never will by definition. So over the long run, being a Yankee fan or Red Sox fan

is gonna be better, not this year, but over the long run it will always be better. What I love is that people aren't paying attention to Baltimore, they may end up with the best record in all of baseball. They're that close to Atlanta right now, which is unbelievable. And they're being managed by someone who I hope friends of the show know. Have you ever had Brandon hide on your show? No. He was a Marlon's coach for many, many years. We had him forever. And he became the manager of

the Orioles and he has stuck there. He has not been fired through the rebuild. They took a step forward last year, 183 games maybe. And now this year they are likely gonna win 100 games. And what's impressive is the fact that they had discipline that they were never able to have when Peter Angelo was not, he's not dead, but he's not alive. He's not really operating the team.

Makes sense, yeah. It's his son's operating the team. Wait a minute, what is that? He's in purgatory? He's a zombie. Right. He's sort of one step ahead of Bernie, and that's it. So he's not even the control person of that team anymore.

It's his sons. This is the team that all those issues this season when the sons were suing each other. And then John Angelo, so who's the control person, came out and said, I'm gonna open our financials and show you that we're losing money so we can't keep this team together. He pulled in Heizanga only a few months ago

saying this team won't stay together. And you remember people from Florida in 97 when high Zingas said We're gonna trade everyone even if we win the world series Which they did and then did but the exciting thing is that baseball Can't market the Orioles and baseball is despondent over that fact They're excited that a low payroll team is winning, they're upset that no one cares. Mike, why are you making faces at that? Well, why can't they market the Orioles?

The Orioles used to be a big, in the 90s, they used to be a big time rating. I know Cal. I know Cal. I know Cal used to be a part of that, but that's a big media market down there. They can't market the Orioles. Someone knew, someone exciting.

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and those closest to you. Edward Jones, we do money differently. Visit EdwardJones.ca-different. After review, the call on the ice is a whole new season of NHL Action with Skip. Every order earns you a shot at winning one of over 200,000 prizes, including NHL Shop.ca and SkipGiftGurves, Skip Game Time Tires, The Alie has a bad reputation in general. It does brought American history Yeah, but on South Beach someone's always just sitting somewhere smoking a cigarette You can't go down an alley around here and not see someone sitting there smoking a

I it's retains a pulsating key from the night before you walk by some liquid They're like is that water? It's rain last night. That's definitely not water. Avoid the liquid. Always avoid the liquid in an alley. Stugats! I venture, guess, that if you were to rake your tongue on the asphalt of an alley, you would die immediately. I don't think it would be immediately, though. First, you'd contract very quickly right before death several sexual diseases, and then you would die. This is the Don Lebatars Show with this Stugats!

would die. This is the Don Lebertar show with this two cats. Can you name five players? They're all Austin Hayes. They all look like Austin Hayes. And if you ask me to name five, I'll say, Roushman, I'll give you so much information on the raise if you want it because the raise are also great. And I think I think Chris. I can do their whole lineup. Really. I can look at you. I can board you to tears. Really?

So talk about Siri, their center field. He still have more cake. Yes. Do it. No, I don't think Chris Davis wants that. BJ Sirhoff. I think the Orioles are like the steppered wives of baseball. But it seems to work and it is working and it is exciting.

And if you are the owner of the Yankees or the Red Sox, you are truly despondent beyond repair watching the Orioles and Rays be the dominant players in that division. And that's what leads to firing like high and bloom gets fired. That's what's going to lead to changes with the Yankees because it is so bad to go to an owner's meeting and look at Angelo's or look at Stu Sternberg and realize that they're taking revenue, sharing money from you and then kicking your ass. But yeah, you mentioned, you gave us a revelation that Peter Angelo's is not dead but also not alive somewhere in the in between.

And Dan mentioned that they're going to be good for 10 years. So if they have young players, when I was growing up and even throughout the the 20 teens, the Orioles would still spend dumb money. They usually add the financial means to at least be accused of being able to keep the guys that'll come up for change. And you know, forgive me on his history. An asbestos king was very rich at one time. The Orioles mattered. They were spenders. They built what the most modern of parks a million years ago. his history uh... and as best as king was very rich at one time the orials matter

they were spenders they built what the most modern of parks a million years ago and since then they have lost and lost money and angels what's happened to his money because he's not a big player in this division has been financially david and this division turned upside down to me the most fascinating thing about the a-least is that the anguies and red socks aren't actually that bad they have all the money advantages they're not that bad this A.L. East is that the Yankees and Red Sox aren't actually that bad. They have all the money advantages. They're not that bad this year. What it is though is that Toronto Baltimore and the Razor are a good deal better and cheaper

and getting paid for it. That is a market shift, Dave. What's happened there in the business of the AFC? And if he's not dead and not alive has you considered running for congress i believe that he is not able to know that the orals are having a good year that makes me sad someone should let her know that's not just funny that's what's funny about that

i think what he's saying is that i mean it that angelos is in the sand state of such age decline that his mental facilities are not there i have not seen that reported that so it's uh... he has not appeared in an owner's meeting and the team was taken away because he was not able to be a control person it's had a goal to got sick it's not it's he or it's not i'm not saying anything against him he was one of the toughest s SOBs when he was in his prime of being in the spestest attorney, and that's how he made his fortune in the beginning.

And he would come into owner's meetings, he's a pretty small guy, but pretty, not like me, so small, but he had a presence when he walked in the room, people were scared of him. He was grumpy all the time. he was fighting with the nationals forgive my ignorance here just can you explain this to me because I I legitimately do not know the history of the business can you explain to me what it takes to make your riches as an asbestos lawyer oh it's outstanding you hot you get class

action lawsuits against companies where they know they have a spestus and they sort of ignore it. And then people get sick and then you have to do a settlement and you keep 33 cents of every dollar but you don't charge people up front. It's like what personal injury lawyers do and they're a part of our society they're needed. But the way it works is sometimes they're called ambulance chasers, not very nice. But what you do is you get huge multi-billion dollar settlements

and then you get court-awarded attorneys fees in many cases where your law firm becomes the go-to place when there is anybody who's sick. It's called a plaintiffs firm where you represent people who want money because they can't breathe anymore. It's kind of like when Better Call Saul and Saul Goodman goes out to the old folks home and he's like, hey guys, this is messed up. Why don't you trust me?

I'll go out there, fight for you, and then make all your- Tony, I gotta stop you. Can you guys please find the old video for me and put it in the corner of the most disgusted I have been with David Samson, where he showed radiant delight when we told him the story

of Bob Ross' family ripping him off. David Samson's- He knew way too much about him. No, no, but- Well, whatever, again with this stand, Bob Ross' loved ones, no, the idea that Grebe would bring you radiant delight and that awful, awful people doing law in an awful, awful way that you would call

it outstanding that he had made his money because it's legal though. Hold on, it's legal. It's awful in what sense. People are appoizin by as best as that. Well, now Dan asked the question, David just knew way too much about what is that Dan asked. I sense a potential new bit where we play a clip of David's reaction and people have to guess what he's talking about.

Because I'm betting if you just play him saying, oh, it's outstanding. No one will ever guess what he's about to describe. What do you view, David? It's someone that I don't know how on-scrupulous you are in these places where you are really bold faced about money wins and money can be had grossly. It's nothing personal. it's just business.

What did you regard as the dirtiest money that had ownership of a major league team in baseball? There are so many owners who made money in ways that most people would consider to be in their mind not scrupulous, but in fact, they're just taking advantage of inconsistencies in a market or taking advantage of people who don't have the ability to monetize.

It's the expression is much more, your dad knows the expression, rich get richer. And the reason rich people get richer is they're able to do things that people who don't have the capital to start can't do. I don't think that plaintiffs' attorneys, they're not the scum of the earth. They're representing people who are trying to get paid, sometimes who deserve to, and sometimes who don't deserve to,

and no one else is doing it, so they do it. They're people in the meat industry, the way they treat animals. Answer my question. Who's the dirtiest? Answer my question. The dirtiest money that you regarded when you were at the center of the business. Everybody was tied for last. I mean,

what? Dirty money. Dirty money is when you steal or when you rob or when you commit crimes or violent crimes or when you shake people down. That's dirty money. When you're just better at business than someone, I don't consider that to be dirty money at all. That's capitalism. How it, it, it, it, definitionally that is capitalism. David, what happens here with Shohei O'Tani, the fact that he is not going to pitch and just be a hitter next year? How does that impact his free agency? What a brilliant job. And I'm nothing personal. I like criticizing PR because people are just bad at it It is funny if you read the reports yesterday the agents who came out to talk about Shohei's surgery

The angels who talked about Shohei's surgery. They called it a procedure. I'd such fun with nothing personal with this It was Tommy John But they don't want to say it because when you have two Tommy John's, you may not be able to ever come back and pitch. But no, no, he had a procedure much like the Aaron Rogers Achilles, never been done. He's going to come back in 12 weeks since brilliance, too. No worries. He'll be there for week 15 or 16.

It's total horse hockey. He's Achilles ripped off and rolled up like a carpet. Shoeyo Tani's ligament was torn. When you fix that, it's called Tommy John. You don't miss a year with a procedure. You miss a year with Tommy John. You are ridiculous. You are furious.

You have caught these people in a lot. Who are they fooling are they fooling teams who are in the market to sign out on me do you think that there's a jam of the Dodgers Andrew Friedman do you think he reads that report and says oh it wasn't Tommy John no problem now we'll sign him to 60 million in the sands and listen to me when I tell you I've not seen Billy Gale more passionate about anything than a couple of weeks ago when he thundered in here screaming about how stupid

the angels are. Billy, for the eighth consecutive season, the angels will finish with trout and otani, but not some of them with trout and otani, some of them without, but eight consecutive seasons under 500 for the angels. Longest streak in baseball. Nobody's worse than that with the two best players in the sport. It's yeah, that's almost mathematically impossible to do. And it hasn't been the same group of people running it. Like it's been the same owner, but it hasn't been the same GM. So it's been multiple people that just can't figure it out, which is the strangest part. But to me, it's fascinating, David.

You must marvel at this part, right? When money ball came to the sport and the Dodgers had also money ball and efficiencies, the idea that in the AL East, the Orioles and Rays have figured out a way to do business so smartly, Stu Gottson. You'd love this so smartly that they lost long enough to get all the young players cheap and so they could beat those teams in that division and take their revenue sharing money. They are being paid to kick Yankee and Red Sox as because they've gotten so much better at the efficiencies of how to manage a team and in that the angels have the two best players

and can't win for eight years. It's nuts how the sport has turned upside down that way, David, that money matters less than it ever has. My favorite stat, there would be at the owner's meeting after the season. Once you give the perfunctory applause to the owner who won the world series and everybody's really flipping him the bird because you're so pissed off, there's a stat that they give about dollars per win. And that's the one I always like to win. Because what it shows is that you are spending the least amount of money to get every win.

And that is the game that everybody's playing. Is how much money do we actually have to spend? And there's rumors, it's $8 million per win. And it's all about wins above replacement and all of these stats. But at the end of the day, how do you win the most games and pay the players the least amount of money?

What the angels have done is they have led the league in number of dollars per loss, which is the worst way to do it. When you've got the highest payroll this year, the San Diego Padres are up there along with the Mets who are gonna absolutely win the award for the most dollars paid per loss.

And so the difference is, when you have a low payroll, you can't make mistakes. So Billy the Angels, when they sign Rendon or Poo-Holes or CJ Wilson, people were excited at these signings, or upton, remember that huge upton signing when they gave him all that money? None of it is worked, trout they gave all the money too, but it's not like they don't spend money. When you run a small market team, a small payroll team, Tampa, Baltimore, you don't have the chance to make a mistake, so you make fewer of them. We're going to get to your movie review in just a second, but can you please tell me of the

scams going on right now with stadium deals around the country, whether it's Tampa, OK, C. God, what a great scam they've got. It's so good. They want a $900 million downtown arena, and their model of business is to basically just get young players that you can lock up for seven years, all draft picks, all value, all efficiency, and then you're gonna lose Durant and Westbrook

and anybody else after seven years, but you're gonna run your business. You're gonna do what Dave is just talking about. They've got one of the great scams. Send a star basketball player to a nowhere city, force him to live there and keep him there for seven years under contract and then build a stadium under which is the biggest scam one of those two are a different one

or the Vegas situation well the Vegas situation I came in call a scam because I don't know what it is and the Tampa Bay just announced their stadium yesterday except they don't even have the votes yet. They haven't done the political maneuvering you need to do to get approval for the public financing that they're getting down in St. Pete, and it's a big development deal. I still think the biggest scam is actually what happened up in Buffalo.

Because Buffalo could not lose their football team, and Buffalo is using money from places other than in Buffalo to keep the Buffalo Bills, because there's no way Buffalo would ever lose the Buffalo Bills, because that's all they have. And when that sort of leverage exists when you're an NFL team and you're the only gaming town, can you imagine if Green Bay would not build

or renovate Lambo Field? Of course they can't lose the Packers. It would be the end of Green Bay. So that sort of leverage is from where scams really come. Before we get to your movie, can you guys please just put on the screen for all of us here so that we can all look at it. This is David Samson's natural, authentic reaction

to learning the information that the peaceful artist Bob Ross who made a career of Drawing plants on television in a way that was super soothing that all of his loved ones had ravaged his fortune and taken all of his money Such a kind soul and he's done so much to To soothe people who could do such a thing I Would have easily To soothe people who could do such a thing I would have Easily Yeah back in the day. Are you kidding a chance to take Bob Ross take advantage of Salivating right now. Are you fantasizing? You're just so you just saw the problem to help you rip it out I'm wearing a jacket. He just

Salivated at the idea of being able to manipulate Bob Ross is fortune away from it We got to do a scammers pod with Stugot's Tony and Samson done just how to pull great I'm in you wearing the same outfit. I'm not interested. I couldn't tell by the way Mike. I couldn't tell when we were back to now or when we were then. There's a slight difference in hat. Can we please like that us weekly?

What's different about these photos? Can we review your movie? What did you watch? What are you reviewing? I love getting suggestions. I do love watching movie and do every day. And I get suggestions from fans. This one actually came from you, Mike.

Oh, it is the same. Oh, and the hat is pretty similar to that. No, it's a collared shirt. Well, that's a, that's where us weekly gets has. It's a, it's a different, you notice the collared shirt. Look, like the club placard is different. There's a difference in your you stop dying your mustache to I think it's more of a bacon neck. Oh What do you mean I'm going great because my brother died? No, you're not you're going great because you stopped dying your hair

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This is a movie. Where does he rank, Mike? Decorated professional wrestlers of our time, he's the top, correct of like real wrestling and performance. In terms of like reputation, when he was at his absolute peak, he was a guy that could succeed in any era, had everything go in form and was one of the master

tacticians in the ring of professional wrestling, but also arguably the greatest amateur wrestler, too. So he is a gold medal wrestler, and I just hadn't heard of him. I'm not sure if Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant and Randy match will match that. But not Kurt Angle. This is a story really, it's a story about addiction.

And the fact that he almost lost his life, he was taken up to 65 opioid pills a day. And as you know, that is generally the end of someone, but he found a way to recover from that. It's about the up and down story of having it all and then having nothing. And what what you do, and I didn't realize the loss he had had in his family, he had suffered a loss, several losses. And when you are an Olympic champion and you try to trade on that because you think it's just the beginning and it turns out to be the best. And then you try to figure out what do you do with the rest of your life. The reason this movie was very attractive to me is, hey, I learned the story.

But be it's something we don't talk a lot about. We don't follow athletes after they leave our team. And you've got athletes who have a moment. And they're 22 years old, they're celebrities, they're stars in a Super Bowl. And you don't realize how hard it is when you are an aging athlete. When you're trading in your glory days, and all we do is make fun of the fact that they go to card shows.

We make fun of the fact that they're trying to be on dancing with the stars. I don't think we realize how difficult it is to know that the best has happened and you're 35 or 40 years old. And your body's breaking down, your ability to make money at that level has gone away. And we don't think about it or talk about it because as executives, it doesn't matter to us. And as fans, we're onto the next thing. And this is a movie about what happens to people when you're onto the next thing,

but they're still looking in the mirror. There's a good movie with Mark Ruffalo and Steve Carell, where Steve Carell displays his range called Foxcatcher, and what you learn from this documentary is that Kurengel was very much a central figure in all of that. I believe the producers behind that Fox catcher film are behind this documentary.

But for me, it's a story of addiction from the very beginning. Even before he actually goes to prescription drugs, he was addicted to competition so much so that he was going up against these guys in amateur wrestling that were twice his size. Like, Sylvester Turkai was a unit, and he was going up against them with a broken neck,

and all these people know, it was a secret that Kurt Angle had a broken neck. Oftentimes, they would attack that neck where he found his advantage was just with exhaustion training. I'm just gonna tire this person out, and the way that he was addictive and obsessive about his training to get to that final level, or which was a culmination of his being

that led to a whole identity crisis was amazing to witness. I was familiar with the legend about him when in the gold medal with a broken frickin' neck. I had no idea what actually went into it. You can imagine, and David, thank you for the suggestion. You can imagine, Sturgat says, we talk about pain and what Nick Chubb just went through.

You can imagine what kind of pain threshold you would have to have in order to beat other wrestlers. Whether broken neck or not, just to make your body granite so that you can out pain someone at, you know, your ears, cauliflower, and that's the least of it. I was actually thinking about Kurt Angle when Aaron Rogers was talking about this new

innovative surgery to really reduce the amount of time and healing because Kurt Angle tried doing that because he was addicted to competing in the wrestling ring where he took these procedures that were experimental that would shorten the recovery time to a broken neck by half. He ended up breaking his neck four times in a two year span. It's called steroids is what baseball players and others use to try to increase healy the speed of healing and to get your body back. And that is what some players have actually come clean and said, oh yes, I did do steroids, but I was just trying to get healthy again. But we don't care, do we?

What people do to their bodies as long as they're entertaining us, as long as they're taking the risk and not us and we just get the enjoyment. It's not something we've ever thought about. And maybe we should, but we probably won't. Unless they're watching us and we just get the enjoyment. It's not something we've ever thought about and maybe we should But we probably won't unless they're watching Beetlejuice in the theater That was unreal. Was that a first date? Yes, it was It can't be why apparently was also a last date. Yes, there are no now it has to be But that's some kind of guts by that guy in a first date. Yeah, well it was balls. I saw in the video

but that's some kind of guts by that guy in a first date. Well, it was balls. I saw in the video. Do we have that video? Let's get that video. Thank you, David Samson. We will talk to you later. Let's find that video. Let's make it grainy in all the right places so that we're not pornographic. And let's get to a couple of things here, Stugots, locally that I want to get to.

My bone to pick. Yes. No pun intended. Let's start there. hopefully that I want to get to my bone to pick. Yes, no pun intended. Let's start there.