The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Penetration Station

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

We kick things off with a Parade of Gasbags of our show's Dolphins takes... David Samson is here to discuss the Fins and their decision making with Tua, Peacock's streaming success, NFL Ratings vs. ot...her leagues, and the Dwyane Wade statue unveiling. Then, Billy has a rant against the merits of the Dwyane Wade statue, and Jeremy has a rant against the Emmy awards on behalf of Better Call Saul. Who will win Jessica's Emmy Award for Best Rant? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshou with the Stugat's Podcast. I think the dolphins are making a Super Bowl. I genuinely think they're making the Super Bowl. So do I. They have Tyree Kill, who's clearly a game breaker, and shifted the power in the conference from Kansas City to Miami all of a sudden. Vic Fangio is the God, the lowercase G there, no offense to anybody.
Starting point is 00:00:42 He's the God of defensive coordinators, and they're ready to do it. And Mike McDaniel digging in to his second season, he's familiar now, he's more comfortable. They're man, they're ready. They're ready. Dolphins haven't been to a Super Bowl in almost 40 years since Dammarino's 1984, and they're ready, they're gonna do it.
Starting point is 00:01:00 The Dolphins are overwhelming, I'm not certain. They're not the best team in the NFL right now, Greg. I mean, I could talk for the whole show about why they're a better game and why they're better than Buffalo. Dolphins offense is everyone football for me. Like I can't watch a football game. It's not the Dolphins. It's done the exact opposite for me. I just can't football amazing. Like I'm watching no it's great, but I'm saying it's ruined the rest of football for me. Like I can't watch just a single game that's not the Dolphins. Tua is everything they thought he would be when they drafted him number five ahead of Herbert.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Tua is the favorite in the MVP odds right now. Should be. With great reason. And I just think this is the most dynamic, well-balanced, inventive, exciting offense have ever had. We're all watching something we don't understand and he's outtactitioning people on things we don't understand. This is the most
Starting point is 00:01:47 overwhelming offense I have ever seen the franchise play, our franchise of Dan Marino, too, is getting rid of the ball the way that Tom Brady does in speed with Drupurie's accuracy. This should be the dolphin's year though, right? I mean this is the best chance they've had at winning a Super Bowl in 25 years. Correct. With the accuracy, that's not stoppable. Miami Dolphins! Woo! The Dolphins offense is until somebody proves otherwise, almost unstoppable. Look at the delight on David Samson's face. I think the people in the back row today are trying to fool me, put her on the pole, Jude, you at Levitard show. Do reading glasses make you look more responsible?
Starting point is 00:02:31 We've got a back row of total energy. And in the front row, we've got Chris Cody in charge. And he's a mess because of everything happening with the dolphins. You are just beginning an offseason of everyone questioning your quarterback and everything that's happening there. We'll get to David Samson's business thoughts on this in a second. But first, Chris, tell the people what kind of mess you are today. I'm all over the place. In the last 24 hours,
Starting point is 00:02:55 I've traded to a, I've signed him doing Max deal. I've, I'm just, I can't decide what I want to do. I don't know if he's good. I don't know what any of this means. I don't know how this, I don't know if the season was a good season. I've flown all over the place on every single topic with the dolphins. I, I, just this, this what I'm saying. Like, that's how I feel. David, what should the dolphins do with Tuo? What are the business merits of he's the best quarterback you've had in 25 years, no matter how many people are questioning him.
Starting point is 00:03:25 So you don't have to make a decision. One of the things that gets owners in trouble is when they make decisions before they have to. A lesser known situation is when the Red Sox gave the extension to Chris Sale or the Tigers, your guy Dave Dombraski gave an extension to Armageddon Cabrera when he didn't have to or Dantro Willis when he didn't have to. You just don't need to do anything with Tua right now. I don't think it's necessary.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I think you wait because are you sure that Tua is the person? And from a business standpoint, are you interested in the money that you're making as a team with your ancillary businesses, which is what Steve Ross does, ancillary to the dolphins around Hard Rock Stadium and within Hard Rock Stadium. Or are you interested in possibly getting to the Super Bowl for the first time in most people's lifetimes? And I think if it's the latter, you need to wait because as quirky and great as Mike McDaniel is, we don't know for sure whether or not the dolphins are in a position to be
Starting point is 00:04:24 competitive at the end. And it doesn't matter what happens at the beginning of a season or what matters, what happens at the end. And owners get pressured by PR. And the good news is in Miami that PR is all over as Chris Cody just said. So I think the dolphins wait. So you're saying just let him play out his option here. Play it out.
Starting point is 00:04:43 There's nothing wrong with letting players play out their contract. Every owner gets nervous, oh, we're gonna lose them. Always gonna be a free agent. Oh, we're gonna have to end up paying more. So now people are speculating, oh, just give him a hundred million guaranteed. And that's sort of in the middle where it's neither here nor there. You're not really giving him the max. You're not getting close to Watson, but you're still then saying that he's gonna be the quarterback that you want as your franchise quarterback.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And to me, Baker Mayfield did just fine. But on the flip side, there is benefit to when you know it's your guy, you locked them up. I mean, that happened in Baseball with Evan Lungoria with the raise that's happened with the braves have now an all-star team for the next decade because they locked everyone up. I guess the two of question is, is he their guy, right? Because if he is their guy, then they should try to lock him up because if they don't, then they're going to have to start over again if he's too expensive, right? The question also is not just is he their guy,
Starting point is 00:05:41 but it's how much do you have to pay him if he's your guy? Because the examples you just brought up are bringing guys in for what eventually became below market value and were guys on sort of cheaper deals than they would have gotten when they got to free agency where Tuah, if he gets paid and extended, will likely do so as one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league. So I can actually understand where David's coming from to an extent with two of if you just plays out this year yeah you might have to pay him what might be an even bigger deal going into the following off season and you risk the opportunity of losing him but at the same time if you're unsure
Starting point is 00:06:16 as to whether or not he's the guy in the system i can understand waiting it out well that's the thing if he is your guy sign them now because it's only going to go up it's not going to go down if you wait a year are you sure because he just let the thing. If he is your guy, sign him now, because it's only going to go up. It's not going to go down if you wait a year. Are you sure? Because he just led the league in passing. If he gets hurt and there... Well, because the contract's always go up. But if they're nine and eight last next year and you're even less sure than you were before, is it going to go up? I mean, he couldn't have had a much better... He had a terrible ending, but he couldn't have had a much better regular season. He was healthy and he led the league in passing. Well, I'm saying is if he's your guy, which they would know or not know, if he's your guy, lock him up because if he's not your guy
Starting point is 00:06:51 Then you can let him go. But if he is and you're gonna lock him up a year from now, it can go from 45 million to 60 million. I think we have to play the game to win or to out. Is that your guy, Billy Gil? We have set a record for asking whether someone is someone else's guy in this segment, and we're 10 minutes into the segment. Still don't have an answer. David, no, we're not going to have an answer for seven years, just like with Tana Hill. We're going to do it all over again. We're going to do the same thing that we did for seven years.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I'm two in. With Tana Hill. David, can you tell me what you made of peacock drawing 23 million people to its streaming services? The other games all did better than that. All the other games on network television did better than that. And Cowboys Packers was at almost double that, but 23 million, they're trumpeting it as the greatest streaming victory in the history of the United States in the history of things being streamed.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Well, let's not get too crazy because until we see the numbers and we'll never see the numbers, but maybe someone will find them. Maybe Pobletori will find out. I want to know how many people both signed up for peacock and then kept it. That is where the money is. The 23 million also is an incorrect number because that number includes all the people
Starting point is 00:08:15 in Miami and Kansas City. Now there were way more in Kansas City, but the number of people who watched the game on regular television. So it wasn't actually 23 million streaming. However, I think what fans have to realize and so many people were so upset that oh, it's just streaming,
Starting point is 00:08:32 you guys did a whole segment on how grandparents will figure out where to find the game. The NFL could not care less about that demographic and having them understand where to find games. They're focused on getting as many possible entities to bid for the right. Peacock paid $100 million just for that game. Extrapolate that over an extended playoffs. Extrapolate that over a regular season and you're talking about a huge amount of money
Starting point is 00:09:04 going to these owners. I think what the peacock game did is hopefully helped inform all of you that more and more games will be streamed and your CEO John Skipper is going to be correct where the Super Bowl will eventually be behind the paywall. It's coming and it's coming soon. How crazy are you made as someone who cares so much about baseball business that football just stumbles into giant oil wells of money and they don't have to be monogamous or exclusive
Starting point is 00:09:37 with anybody like they they are just capable of creating money streams in all sorts of new places in ways that are really ridiculous. It's not just MLB. Think about what the MBA just announced in the last couple of days. I don't know if you guys covered this, that the MBA draft is going to be over several days now. They're trying to make it an event the way the NFL's draft is an event, we spent years just trying to be like football. What can we do? But the biggest difference is NFL shares all of its national broadcast revenue and there's no local broadcast revenue and that's just what the NBA and MLB will never be.
Starting point is 00:10:17 So therefore, what is it about the NFL that really bothers me the most? It's that 40 million watch the Cowboys Packers game. And a total of not even 50 million watch the entire World Series. What bothers me the most is when the list of top 100 shows comes out, and 86 of them are NFL games. So badly, we want to be able to send a press release that more people are engaging with baseball and that more young people are playing it. All in an effort to just get more broadcast revenue, the NBA is doing the same thing
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Starting point is 00:11:55 no safe. Like simply safe. Don't live a tard. Oh, I like firing people. So I take the opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can because I can use it as a learning experience for them and try to help them out and try to point out what they did wrong. But in this case, the employee was enough levels below where I was that I did not do the firing, but I had it done within moments of discovery. I'm just like firing people. It's absurd. It's absurd. Stugats. I'm talking about people who I fire who deserve it, who have done something that actively
Starting point is 00:12:34 requires me to fire them. It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so. This is the Don Lebertar Show with a Stugats. with this two cats. This podcast is nothing personal. It is live at 8 a.m. every morning, every weekday morning on YouTube. Billy, you have been locally and nationally, the only one brave enough to call out the flirtations of Dwayne Wade when he's a heat
Starting point is 00:13:05 lifeer, but goes elsewhere. He just got a stature. It's not flirtations. It's full on Fing. All right. It's full on Fing. He left and went to other places. It's not like, oh, hey, sure. It's penetration station. Okay. Okay. It's penetration station. What? You heard him. It's penetration station. And Billy, Billy came in here on hinge this morning
Starting point is 00:13:26 He's had a couple of days off and he's just he's crazed Trust me when you were supposed to got you don't have any days off One of the things that's happening with him though is he is willing to go where other people in this town or not willing to go when it comes to The excess that we bestow upon Utanus, Aslam, and Dwayne Wayne, where I can't keep track of the ceremonies because every couple of weeks, they have some sort of other ceremony to celebrate these guys retiring many years ago.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Let's be very clear on the front end here. I have not taken any shots at Utanus, Aslam, that is you. You're the one beefing with him and feuding with him, not me. You're the one writinging with him and feuding with him, not me. You're the one writing articles, doubting him, not me. What I said was, Jeremy said, oh, this Friday, I'm covering the heat game.
Starting point is 00:14:12 We're doing you, Donas Haslam's retirement goal. Another one, we just did this with Dwayne Wade, like three days ago, can we space these out a little bit? What are we doing that every game is the special honor where we're bringing back old timers and doing this and that like let's space these things out Give me time to miss people. Why are we doing everything so close together? I don't understand I can understand what you're saying about giving some time to miss people But wasn't the whole complaint before that we were doing all of it in all of these different weeks
Starting point is 00:14:40 They've got one week Dwayne Wade just got his Hall of Fame enthronement honoree and was told that he was going to be given a statue in the fall of this year. Udonas Haslam is getting his number retired now. Now I can understand with Dwayne Wade where it's felt like a lot because the last two games of, he had the last dance, right, or rather, what was that one, yeah, last dance, where it was his entire
Starting point is 00:15:05 final season that was sort of documented and everybody was giving him rocking chairs etc. But then his final two games his final home game was his last game his final road game was his last game the game in Brooklyn then he comes and gets his number retired and now it's this and there was a movie too in the middle of all of that I remember going to see the movie at the arena. All right, hold on a second. Let me get David. There's a lot. There's a key under a door. A man. Yes. 25 that was for LeBron. I think that's what got Pat Raleigh. No, no. LeBron was hit the road. Jack, you're out of here. No, Pat Raleigh got fine $25,000 on
Starting point is 00:15:41 freedom for leaving the key under the mat for LeBron. You're welcome. I just don't understand Billy's dislike for weight. You know your favorite status. You know your favorite. You're a violin player played for another team too. It's not dislike for weight. You're the one suggesting that Dwayne Statue should be him. What were you suggesting him? Well, no, no, no, no, let's not miss represent this. Let's not miss represent this. I said, are we ever going to get on his statues? And then I said, it would be funny if when they unveiled the statue,
Starting point is 00:16:09 it was LeBron and Wade doing the Rachel Nichols interview in Caves uniforms because that's all he ever did on the Caves. That's what I said. Okay, and that strikes me as anti-Wade, but let's play the sound here. I don't understand. If I'm historically accurate, I'm anti-summon for simply selling the truth. Yeah, but I'm historically accurate, I'm anti-summon
Starting point is 00:16:25 for simply selling the truth. Yeah, but for telling the truth, I'm anti-summon. But saying that he's not a heat lifer. He's not a heat lifer. Before on Droggitch is a heat lifer. Nope, he's not. He's not a heat lifer. That's a whole new thing.
Starting point is 00:16:36 You can understand that. That guy supposedly wanted to come back to the heat so bad and had like three opportunities to come back to the heat, didn't come back to the heat. And now he's going and is playing a game in like Slovenia. Yeah. One more game. He can't even do that on the heat.
Starting point is 00:16:49 He loves the heat so much. Didn't want to sign with the heat, but he's having all of his heat friends go to Slovenia to play a game. What is that? How much does he actually like this team? And then he has like season tickets practically. He's sitting in the stands every game and they're like, I don't want to play for us.
Starting point is 00:17:00 He's like, nope, nope, don't want to play for you. And then a microphone's there and he's like, I love the heat. I'd love to play for the heat. What the f***ing sign with the heat then, buddy? What are you doing, you're here, you have nothing but time on your hands, go play for the heat, if you wanna play for the heat,
Starting point is 00:17:12 so bad, what are we doing? I don't understand this, you guys are so stupid. You let these people, you let these people, pay me fancy narratives that just go to what you wanna believe and you fall for it every time. What's wrong with you guys? You're gonna honor, you're gonna honor Goran in two weeks. I already know it.
Starting point is 00:17:29 You're gonna retire his number two. We're running out of numbers people. We're running out of numbers. What are you angsties? Chris Cody's here, he's like, Hi, Mehaka's whatever. We should retire his number two. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Let's retire his number two. Oh, he's gonna leave this team on a finals run. I've heard that about everyone from Jimmy Butler to Tyler Hiro to what's his name, bumpy that you called him. Tyler Johnson. Tyler Johnson. I never said that about him. You guys were all over Tyler Johnson. All over Tyler Johnson. David Samson, we will hold that. You don't his has them sound for later in the show. He is and him indeed mad at me. Samson, your thoughts on Wade getting a statue
Starting point is 00:18:05 and whether or not it should be a statue of him, Lebron and Rachel Nichols commemorating all he did in interviews. I'm still reveling in the fact that Billy is so upset about something other than the Marlins right now. I'm not upset. It's just, what upset? It's not upset.
Starting point is 00:18:23 What upset me is you guys. It's not even them. It's you guys. you guys are the fish that come out of the water with Three hook holes and it's like how how do you guys keep getting hooked by the same fisherman over and over again? I don't understand it. Do you not learn any of you? Do you not learn this just a game? They're playing only do this to the heat though like you love Juan Pierre He played for other teams like the fact that you're holding. Mr. Marlin played for nine years to go. The fact that you're holding,
Starting point is 00:18:47 the fact that you're holding Wade going somewhere at the very end of his career against him, is just two other places. It's blasphemy. It's not. Samson? I have some concern about statues in general, because I am hurt.
Starting point is 00:19:03 We had a statue ready to go for Jose Fernandez. We had the artist hired, we had the mold ready, and then the team got sold, and the new owners decided that they were not going to allow any sort of statue, any sort of anything for Jose Fernandez because it was too difficult a conversation to have because of the circumstances under which he passed away. And so they just decided to completely just get rid of Jose and any part about him. So that's a bit personal with me. So it has changed how I view statues.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I would go around to different ball parks with it when the team was on the road and look at the different statues and which players get them and how. The most famous statue, of course, was the one in Pudge Rodriguez's backyard. He had a full 12-foot statue of himself in his own backyard, one of the greatest statues you'll ever see. And my only question is, when you decide a statue, it's a huge decision, because in theory,
Starting point is 00:19:59 it's not supposed to go away, like a retired number, except we unretired a number with the Marlins, which was a horrible move. But if you give one to Wade, how many statues and where are they going to be and who's going to see them? What's the location? That's what's fascinating to me. Do you put Wade in the prime spot?
Starting point is 00:20:18 Where's LeBron statue going to go? You can't do it behind where the park was going to be. So do you put it right at the entrance, do then put two next to each other, and then Bosch doesn't get one, or Butler, or any of the other great, that, no, that's not even the right statue that I'm talking about. That's the one that he got in Texas.
Starting point is 00:20:38 The one you'll never see a picture of was the one in his backyard. But in any case, the heat are an example of franchise. They do things in a very knee jerk way when it comes to honoring, which is funny because when it comes to building their team, they are methodical and successful. And this all started for me back in 03, the year we were winning the World Series, when the heat inexplicably and infuriatingly retired Michael Jordan's number in a move that I've never forgiven them for because a it's a terrible precedent to ever retire the number of a player who
Starting point is 00:21:11 wasn't yours unless it's a league wide initiative like Roberto Clemente, let's say. So I just don't know what Pat Riley's gig is as it relates to statues and retired numbers, but it's way too much. David, I don't know what you were seeing in preview there. It wasn't a statue that was on the big screen for the viewer to see. So you were reacting to something that only you were seeing there. And the rest of us were not seeing. I believe I have seen a public photograph of the statue that Pudge Rodriguez had.
Starting point is 00:21:44 We will in his yard, which was laughably funny. We will see if we can find that. But can you tell me the unretiring of a number? You unretired the number that you had given Carl Barger, correct? It wasn't me. We inherited Carl Barger. It was the first president.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I was the third president in Marlon's history. Dumbrowski was two and Carl Barger was one. Carl Barger, I believe, passed away prior to the first game the Marlon's ever played. And Wayne Heisinga retired his number, but he didn't have a number. They just said it was number five. That maybe that was his favorite number.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And one day, Jeffrey Laurie walked into my office and said, we're giving Logan Morrison five. And I said, no, it's retired. He said, no, we're unretiring it. And I said, you can't unretire a number. And he had promised Logan that he would get number five. So that was it for Carl Barger. We moved it from a retired number to like a plaque.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And it always bothered me And I lost that argument with everybody and I spoke to Logan about it and he didn't know Karl Barger was It didn't matter to him and I think the whole purpose of retiring a number is that you keep that flame alive So people keep the legacy and learn about the person. I just don't think you can unretired numbers not right Karl Barger was the late president of the Marlins. His favorite baseball player was Joe Dimashio, whose number was number five. And I want the audience to absorb the uproarious hilarity in unretiring and dead man's favorite number who started your franchise for Logan Morrison. Like that. That's that's a thing. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Put up the statue. Please now on the screen that Pudge Rodriguez had in his backyard a just glowing testament to narcissism and self. The statue is the second most ridiculous thing in the photo. I know, right? He's on a motorcycle in front of the statue. That would make a better statue than the statue. I think he motor cycle on grass him on the motorcycle that is correct what do you shaking your head about david i'm just reminiscing about the party that he hosted after world series we all had a blast we had won the world series we went to his house this is back before some of the issues he had
Starting point is 00:23:58 you know financially but he had amazing house in Miami when you go over the cause way there's these exclusive areas and then we go to the causeway, there's these exclusive areas. And then we go to the backyard. None of us had ever known. None of his teammates had known because he really wasn't necessarily that close to his teammates.
Starting point is 00:24:13 So we never, no one had been to his house. And we walked into the backyard and there this thing was and you could see people, like I remember Derek Lee's reaction, like it was yesterday. You sort of look at him, at your like, oh my God, I've never seen anything like this. And to this day, I've never seen anything like that.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Did you call Dwayne Wade statue knee jerk? Yes. What are you doing? He's the greatest player in their franchise's history. And building him a statue makes all the sense in the world. He's a Hall of Famer. He's a hall of favor. He's a hall of favor off the court at this point as well. Best at having him in this market of my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. And Lebron, you know, you said where you're going to put the Lebron statue, you won't put a Lebron statue. He played here for four seasons. He was there. He was there. Best player. But your greatest player was Dwayne Wade.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And your culture carrier is Udonis Haslum. And that's why he gets his number retired. So I think it makes all the sense in the world and these things have been thought out for years, not just right now. Culture carrier of the bronze statue. Culture carrier makes it sound like a virus. Makes it sound like something that is disease. It is when it comes to you yammering about it.
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Starting point is 00:27:03 Burke at the Critics' Awards, revealing a whole bunch of photographs, including an annoyed Robert De Niro trying very quickly to walk past Adnan and Adnan taking the picture while he was walking past unhappily. Like Robert De Niro did not want any part of saying hello to Adnan Burke, he was giving him the side eye clearly clearly but I wanted to wait to talk Emmys with David Samson because I know he cares about all this awards bullshit deeply. How did you feel about Adnan Verke's
Starting point is 00:27:34 photographic celebrity star bleeping? So you have to understand that Adnan was texting me all these photos. I didn't think he was going to post them. He sent me the De Niro photo, and he said to me, look, my buddy De Niro, and I responded like, buddy, it's like he wants to have you arrested. He no interest. You're not posting that, right?
Starting point is 00:27:59 And the next thing I know, of course, it's being posted, and I went right to trying to understand Metal Arc and trying to understand how it all works and how he goes to the Critics Choice Awards. Why is that paid for by Metal Arc? What's the advantage? What content are you getting from it? Other than putting pictures of people who've been on this podcast, how about getting new
Starting point is 00:28:21 people on the podcast? How about adding value instead? It looks like it literally looks like Adnan is stalking people. Oh no, he was. If you want to listen to today's cinephile, he details the entire night and it's just him sitting around waiting for this guy to go to the bathroom and follow him there and get a selfie. It is, it's kind of gross, but it's also adorable because he's so excited to be there.
Starting point is 00:28:43 He went there on his own dime. He maybe could have gotten metal art to cover it, but he paid for it all himself. And it's just, I just look at him. He's so happy. He met Paul Giamatti. Come on. How can you hate this guy? Well, were those squares? Did he take a screenshot of the iPhone trying to, he did say that the will Farrell one was a terrible self. Put that one back up. That's just like, I don't know. Farrell was there for a second, and he was fumbling with his phone and adnan got the best shot that he could on the screen shot at himself taking a picture
Starting point is 00:29:10 while the phone was trying to focus on him and will Ferrell's fate these are all terrible so he actually said will Ferrell of all of them recognize them like was like hey I know you and that was the only one that gave that not all the other people did not I just think that what you're doing is creating a monster in Adnan who already thinks his movie takes are so far superior. And now you put him in a room with all these celebrities where he's somehow, it actually is delusional up to think he's friends with them.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And he posts this and then gets a podcast out of it. So I hope for MetalArc standpoint that the ratings are great and the downloads are great, but I just don't see the value. If you're gonna send Adnan, you have to send me too, because then we could do a show together, and we could actually... We didn't send him, he sent himself.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I know, but I don't buy that. I wait for the expense report. I would like to quickly just flip through all these selfies because they're all bad for different reasons. Like the exposure is behind him and a lot of them. One of them's just a screenshot of a picture. One of them is cutting his own head off. Like they're all poorly constructed selfies,
Starting point is 00:30:11 but each for a, it's actually very aggressive to be this bad at the end. You know what, she's totally right. Let's roll through these one at a time and find the flaws in each of them. This one might be the best one. Bill Hader might be the best one. Okay, we're being haters and this might be the best one.
Starting point is 00:30:28 But Bill Hader is far behind him, but he's engaged. Let's see the next one here. And that's John. He said John Hamm of all of them was not unfriendly, but just was like, buddy, come on. What are you doing? He felt the energy from John Hamm of like, I don't want to be taking this stuff. And you can tell because he put half of his face outside of the frame, I think maybe as like a reaction
Starting point is 00:30:50 to the hostility emanating from John Ham's body. It is an awkward photo. This photo here is too much light, way too much light on AdNens face. You can't see half of AdNens face with Seth Rogan. Also blurry, yes, Seth Rogan. Seth Rogan. Wow, that's pretty good right there. Limited fake Seth Rogan's high laugh. Let's see what else we have here. Yes, Will Farrell there. The mistake is obvious.
Starting point is 00:31:17 That's honestly impressive. I've never seen anybody be able to take a screenshot while the picture is happening like that. I'm almost I'm almost more impressed than it being a bad picture. They are. Who is the celebrity in the background with the tiny box in front of their face? That's the that's an underrated part of the selfie. All terrible, all worse than the last. There's Wom's game. Offal lighting with a terrible lighting. Okay, so David, one of the things I wanted to talk to you about a lot of people are making fun of Bob Odin Kirk
Starting point is 00:31:46 and Better Call Saul because they're the biggest loser in the history of the Emmys. No one's been nominated more for an Emmy without ever winning one than Bob Odin Kirk and put it on the poll, please, Juju. Does Bob Odin Kirk look physically like someone who has lost 53 Emmy nominations. I would say better call Saul was better than the bear
Starting point is 00:32:09 and I'm offended by the idea that better call Saul is never won. Different categories, the bear was comedy. Okay, well, it was ridiculous. This is the whole issue. This is the whole issue. It's almost like the, the, succession was comedy.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Well, it's like the all in B.A. voting. Like eventually they had to get rid of the center position and just make it three forwards and it's the succession was comedy. Well, it's like the all-in-b-a voting. Like, eventually they had to get rid of the center position and just make it three forwards, and it's the same thing now. All of these shows are hybrids, right? Succession is a comedy, the bear is a drama, but it's nominated for comedy, and the other one's nominated for drama.
Starting point is 00:32:36 None of it makes sense. Better Call Saul was the only true drama that was remarkable like this, and to be nominated 53 times and never win, there were some of the things that won over it You know season eight of Game of Thrones the one that everybody hated the Starbucks one over season four of Better Call Saul Like what makes any sense to me? That makes me sick. Yeah, cousin Greg. I look he was good at his job in his role
Starting point is 00:33:02 But the idea that he won supporting actor over any of the other supporting characters in Better Call Saul over the span of these years, there's so many different examples of times when these actors, these characters should have won. It's Ray Seahorn that's the most infuriating of all of them. She was unbelievable and to have a true dramatic performance like that. One that was like Shakespearean in the level of acting that she had to have that lead to Jennifer Coolidge, Jennifer Coolidge, who was comedic in the drama. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And I love Jennifer Coolidge, but that was not- Thank you. That was not the same level of performance. And the other thing is Carol, but Nat should have been nominated for best guest actress because she was so good in that final season. Let me play for the audience here real quick before we get David's thoughts on this. All of the shots of Bob Odin Kirk losing at the Emmys. Just play John Hampton. And the Emmy goes to Rami Malik. Sterling Capra.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Nothing's major. The Emmy goes to Kirin Colpin. Spermins. Samson, your thoughts? I hate the fact that you're forced to clap for someone else. They're not rooting for someone else to win. And I think it's so disingenuous when they show the people who lose and they're cheering
Starting point is 00:34:41 and saying, yeah, go and clapping. They really want to drop them the bird and they want to leave. And so Odin Kirk, I think the last year when Culkin won over him just a couple of days ago, I think that was the final straw because he knew the show was over. And that was his last time, his last chance,
Starting point is 00:34:58 and he didn't hide his contempt. And deservedly so, he should feel that contempt. He also had a freaking heart attack while filming the last season of the show and came back and delivered for the fans. I'm with Jeremy. That was Jeremy's best rant in show history. Jeremy, give it up for Jeremy.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Jeremy's on the press. The Emmy for best rant. The show is on him. I mean, he almost died. You're just gonna give him a word for good acting because he almost died. They're unrelated. Billy had a good rant earlier in the show. I think he deserves the Emmy for so far.
Starting point is 00:35:28 That was awesome. He's nominated. He's nominated. He's nominated. What are you reviewing for us this week, Samson? Can we talk about the mission? Has anyone in your group seen the documentary called the mission? No.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Okay, so I want to explain it to you. Do you remember the story of the guy, the religious zealot who went to the group of people who live in the North Sentinel Islands off India, where you're not allowed to go because they're cannibals. They're not a civilized group of human beings. They have separate laws. It's very simple.
Starting point is 00:36:00 You cannot go to that island. But this guy said, no, no, I'm gonna go there and I'm gonna convert them all to my religion. Sort of like elder cunning ham type stuff. So he goes there and then he never comes back. Shockingly, he got eaten. Wonder why that would be. So this documentary is the first time
Starting point is 00:36:22 they are giving you the true story and you're getting video because there were videos of his efforts to get to the island and people sort of scared they had to drop them off. You know, you know, there's no doc or anything. It's a bunch of savages who live as savages. And I was watching this documentary thinking, what kind of hubris did these religious zealots have that they think that they're going to go and say, you guys need to find God. And then they end up as lunch. It is a documentary called The Mission and you should watch it because, hey, you're going to learn something and be it'll get you thinking about, why is it that we need people? And this goes for
Starting point is 00:37:04 our country too. Why do we need people and this goes for our country too. Why do we need people to believe what we believe in order to make us feel better about what we believe? I don't know the answer to that. So while force and his religion on a group of people on an island, he was cannibalized. Is what you're saying? He said lunch actually was how he punctuated it. They are cannibals.
Starting point is 00:37:23 They are savages. This group, this community, if you can call it a They are cannibals, they are savages. This group, this community, if you can call it a community, I'm not sure they have a government. And he never came back. And the hypothesis, I mean, they don't have guns or anything, they use bow and arrow, is that he was killed and his body was never recovered, and that he was killed and eaten.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I've always thought about, like, cannibalism is so wild, like, Dan, me and you, let's pretend we were on a plane the two of us, it crashes, and we end up on an island together, all right? And you're like, hey, I'm older than you, I'm gonna sacrifice myself, I'm gonna die here and you can eat me to survive.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I wouldn't even know where to begin. Like, we're, like, it's time to die, probably. Like, like, do I have to, like, rip your leg off completely? You mean you don't know how to begin. Like, we're like, it's time to die probably. Like, do I have to like rip your leg off completely? You mean you don't know how to butcher a human? Am I just going to start gnawing at his skin? Do I need to cut, get through skin first? You should cook him.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Just ask him a lot of fire. So light a fire and just roast him. Well, you don't want to do it as sushi. Like the pig on nochibwena? Yes. Like, just put you in a bottle. But you absolutely have to cook me. Okay, so I can't just start gnawing at your cat. No, thatena? Yes. Like, just put you in a box and just- You absolutely have to cook me. Okay, so I can't just start knowing at your cat.
Starting point is 00:38:27 No, that's unwise. I just don't, like, that's what I say. People say this like, oh, who are you gonna eat here? Like, I wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of eating someone. Well, it's not- There's a new movie about this right now called Silence of the Snow
Starting point is 00:38:39 that is based on the crash of the and in the Andes of the soccer team. And it was in movie a while ago called the live. It may be before your time, a live, anybody. Yeah, a soccer team that crashed and they had to eat each other. So am I taking all of Dan's clothes off? Can I just heat all your clothes? Well, why would you go to eat the clothes?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah, I'd eat as clothes. That's my point. So I have to picture me on an island now. And now Dan's making Dan. So now I have to make Dan fully nude. It's like, I'll probably leave his underwear on just because it's awkward. That's the awkward part.
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