The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Prime Amin vs Bob Cousy

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

Could Amin Elhassan in his prime shut down Bob Cousy? Can the Miami Heat land Damian Lillard and Bradley Beal?! What's a better hypothetical sports match up than Larry Bird vs LeBron James? Also, Greg Olsen joins us to discuss his surging broadcasting career, Tom Brady taking his #1 spot, and where he ranks all-time among UM tight ends. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshall with the StugatSpotcast. Carl Anthony Towns, I mean, occupies a space for me that not a lot of other athletes reside in, which is, holy shit, is a seven footer. At any time in my lifetime, before the last five or six years, I would have looked at your game and been,

like, how the hell does that exist? And how does it not dominate the entire sport? Instead, if you play word association with me on Carl Anthony Towns, what I would do is didn't have the strength to run with Jimmy Butler. He and Andrew Wiggins weren't able to be whatever Jimmy Butler wanted them to be in Minnesota, a different kind of cat, forgive the pun, wanted him to be tougher. And then this week, Carl Anthony Townes says on a podcast somewhere, something that just received universal

mockery, which is when he's done playing the game, he says, but when it's all said and done, he will have changed the game. Carl Anthony Towns is saying that from delusional confidence place is he trying to convince himself to be stronger publicly than he actually is because nobody thinks that of this player who came to the league very early, very young, physically superimposing wants to play on the perimeter, but it's not even his

team in Minnesota. It's never been his team in Minnesota. Well, I mean, I would say, first and foremost, him saying that, like you said, is universal mockery, and that's saying something, right? Nowadays, everything has a kind of split decision. Where do you get unanimity on any topic within sports and this one Everyone's like basically laughed at them Zach Harper likes to say this Call on the town's isn't a great shooter for a big man. He's a great shooter period And so there is some truth to him as far as being a certain type of skill set player that is rare

being a certain type of skill set player that is rare. It's not the first of the kind and it's not the best of his kind, but he's really good. He's one of several in the same way that I like to say that the idea of power forwards a dribble pass and shoot like Derek Coleman is part of that into influx of that into the league. Derek Coleman, Chris Weber, you know, Rashid Wallace, there's a bunch of guys that kind of did all those things But their Coleman isn't talked about in the same way because he wasn't as good as those other guys And he didn't enjoy the same kind of team successes those other guys

I think quality town is the same way incredibly talented no one denies it down but he's gotten in his own way of success and When I hear a comment like that You you call it delusion. I don't think it's delusion. I think it's, I have to construct this thing around me because otherwise, if it's not around me, I get a clear shot of myself in the mirror and say, I'm kind of a disappointment. It seems like clear bravado to me and bravado by definition is false. It's not real confidence. It's the mask of pretending that you're that kind of confidence. I love to use Eddie House as an example. Like Eddie House is actually that confident. He

literally go over 50 and then the 51st one is going up and he truly believes that he's not going to miss it. With towns, I don't get that vibe from him. I get a vibe of someone who's scared and is trying to compensate. The full clip, it was on Pat Bev's podcast. No, wow, well that's... Well I'm just saying, like the clip, it's kind of misleading, the headline of him saying,

like, oh I'm the best. Pat Bev, like opens it with, I've been telling everybody, when they say who's the best, I say this guy. And then he kind of like tees him up to be like, yeah, I am one of them. So it's not the best I say this guy and it kind of like tease them up To be like yeah, I am one of them. So it's not as I don't think it's as juicy as the headline looks Chris, you know what man like most what we had we've had it just in this last month we had Mike brain right we've had Ernie Johnson these are two of the all-time greats all the famous are what they do and when Dan said hey

You're the best at this, what did they do? Did they say, you got their mother in them? And let me tell you a story about how it's great, or did they say, oh man, come on man, I'm just a guy, I don't know why, they both said the same thing. Why are we even doing a South B sessions with me? Why does anyone want to listen about me? That's what greatness, true greatness,

and true confidence sounds like. Let other people tell you you changed the game. And you go, like, come on, I'm good. I'm good, come on guys, I didn't change it. I'm just a guy who hits jumpers and dominates sounds like. Let other people tell you you changed the game. And you go like, come on, I'm good. Good game, bye. Come on guys, I didn't change it. I'm just a guy who hits jumpers and dominates out here. But like when people were chanting MVP at you, the other day during the post game show,

where they were like MVP, like guys, come on. Like I'm just doing my job. Yeah, it's, you know, you don't, you don't get gased by it and then like, cosine ridiculous things. Mike Ryan, are you the best? Yeah, I change the game. Let's do top five big men. Top five big men according to Mike Ryan,

an honor of Yochitch. Is this all time or right now in the sport? Because Carl Anthony Towns, is he making... Bookie Cousins before he went to go dominate Puerto Rico said he would be the third best center in the game behind only Yochitch and B be if he were playing right now. Does Carl Anthony Townes, Mike Ryan, make your list of top five big men? Big man.

No, the top five list is the top five big men I've ever seen. And you could rest assured, he is not in the top five big men I've ever seen. Now this is my lifetime. So I have to apologize to Bill Russell, who I believe was only six foot eight. That's right now. Yeah, and Will Chamberlain and Kreme Abduldjabar. I've seen highlights, but.

That's a very fair caveat. I hate when people, like, just to Germany on NBA radio, it was like, oh, how can you believe Kusie on those? Like, you never watched him play. You watch highlights. You can't, like, oh, how could you believe Kuzi on those? Like, you never watched him play. You watched highlights. You can't like possibly be objective at that. That dog said like the 86 Celtics would sweep the nuggets. I don't know what to do with that.

I, okay. That's very on brand. Okay. Yeah. But the 86 Celtics would look at Yokech and run off the court screaming the way that I mean did when Tim Duncan screamed after making a three to beat his Phoenix sons.

I would venture to say that this Miami Heat team that I don't even really believe to be that good. That just got gentleman swept out of the the NBA finals would sweep the eighty six Celtics. I believe the game has changed that much, but this is why I don't wanna disrespect previous eras, but just keep it in there. Robert Parrish would be so confused by Bama Tobayo. It would be so confusing.

Some. All right, so here's the top five big men I have ever seen in my life. I'm respecting their game in those eras. I'm not gonna do something disrespectful, but I might editorialize a little bit. So number five, big man, that I have ever seen. I thought that was a drum roll.

It's just a joy. Robo is never playing with the drum roll. It's always contribution to the segment. The only sound he's made is to knock something out. I don't turn on the podcast, all right? I'm a whisper sorry. Still hung over from Vegas. Number five, Mike.

David Robinson, the admiral. If you look at his, if you look at his accomplishments, his all-stars, his all-defense, the fact that he entered the league late because he was serving and his two championships. David Robinson, I think, also had the game that he could actually hang in this era. I would love to see David Robinson in his prime defend the likes of, of Nicoli O'Kitch. A big body that had great lateral movement, really just a beautiful player to watch defend with his length and chiseled. he was incredible. So David Robinson number five.

That sounded like Andrew Luck was making a lot of effort. I mean, you remember the definition in his arms, you should. He was the most defined athlete, like in terms of muscles. Do you think that, I mean, I would love to see David Robinson attempt to defend Yokecitch? Yeah, I think Yokecitch is better offensively. Obviously Robinson brings a deep, deep element that you know.

No, no, no, but let's continue. Number four, Big Man, that I've ever seen in my lifetime. David Robinson's Twin Tower teammate, Tim Duncan. Wow. And I would love to have seen Tim Duncan in today's NBA because he would have been asked to do more on the outside and he would have been able to flash. He was a great defender. He'd be hitting it off the glass from three.

Yeah, right at the nipple. Bank is open. Number three. Number three, Hakim Alajawan. You're right at the moment. Wow, my dream. What's he going with this? Okay.

Well, I assume we just saw one of them. Number two, Shaquille O'Neal. Holy shit, you're gonna make Yoke it's the best ever the best big man ever number one. Hassan White's side. Who's doing it with blocks? If he'd only had him. At his peak he's not wrong. If he could have used a song white song. Hey, let me ask you, when he had the nobody else is doing it with a block scheme, who did he do it against?

I want to hear. Who did he do it against? Was it Denver? Was that Denver? Yeah. What? He could be Oakitz? No.

Is that freed, wasn't it? I'm done being on the game. Is that where we're at? The deal of Galenari. The song Whiteside was the difference between a heat championship and not? It's Yokech. I would have liked to have seen the Hassan get the six fouls against Yokech. I would have liked to have seen it.

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And it really is. This is the Dalabata show with the Stugats. That last segment got me thinking about a few hypothetical things. The gummy thinking of what would be an ideal matchup. If you could just put two guys in NBA history against each other. Because we said who Yoke is first David Robinson. That'd be a good one. So coming thinking that, let's start there. I mean, give me a night, right now.

First stop, top of your head. Hypothetical match up for basketball history. LeBron versus Blaribird. Because I just want to see it, just to make people's minds explode. You think things are bad in this country now. If you have an NBA finals with Lakers LeBron and Celtic's Larry Bird, the whole country burns. How much weight does LeBron have on Larry Bird?

Is it like 60 pounds? Something like that. 70 pounds. So you're not doing, boy. You're not doing a one-on-one game. Well, I mean, yes, physically, LeBron represents the, the entire change of that sport to guys in a certain body type can do things that you only had smaller guys doing. Nobody, nobody within 60 pounds of LeBron had been able to do all of those things that LeBron was doing because even magic, he wasn't too 80. Yeah, Larry Bird, a Svelte 220 at 6'9.

That's a good narrative matchup, but I think my favorite that I'd like to just watch is the peak of Kawai Leonard's powers guarding Michael Jordan. Oh, yeah. I saw a stat the other day. Is this going to be right? It probably is right, but I didn't double check it. That Kauai Leonard has more finals MVPs than triple doubles. That doesn't sound right.

Well, he doesn't pass the ball that much. But it's not likely to get tennisists in a game. He might rebound. It doesn't sound right to you. You think I didn't double check it. He has two finals MVP's then. Like you say, I don't think he has a lot of triple doubles. He has one career, triple double, triple double. Triple double.

Different thing. Yeah. Mike, wasn't there a Nike commercial where they did exactly what Chris just suggested. We're like, yeah, all these players from different eras coming through a portal. We're like, don't have a commercial. We're like, they walked in and they all had McDonald McDonald's like, oh, Jordan, you're in here.

I don't recall that. No, it's like a Nike, Nike football commercial where the football commercial, where is like, they're getting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was the Beck and Bower. That was what was that? I think there was a O6 to German.

Yeah. A couple of kids would call like some of the grade. Yeah. Yeah. That was a really great. I was watching, you know, I was like Instagram sometimes says, remember this ad and like you watch them

and the one of the ones I saw was, it was Zlatan and Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo. And they're just basically one up in each other. And all I could think of is, what happened to fun ads like that? Or like the McDonald's one, also scoreboarding ads. Like the company's just prioritized ads on your phone.

Skip 15. No, no, but like we're watching a live sporting event. These are the ads that come on and instead of getting these creative fun ads, you get like this Google Pixel ad that has Druski and you know the guy from John's key in the 10 rings. Druski's everywhere. He's everywhere. I'm just like, this commercial makes no sense.

It's like with Janus and it raised the glizzy and like, it's not a good commercial. It's just random things. It's like the internet threw up on TV. I've got a matchup that I would love to see. What's that? Bob Kuzi versus John Wall. Oh my God.

I got a matchup I can see. Bob Kuzi versus me. I'm locked. I got a match about it. See Bob Coosie versus me Lock his ass up. Come on. You would not We saw you running stairs. I who didn't furiate mad dog most I mean Against Bob Coosie. He's a Russell Westbrook. It's what's Carlos Arroyo? I would block his ass up and then to quote my guy, Judeo Gaudi, I'll go right through his chest on the other side, which by the way, Dan, I don't know if you know this,

the funniest moment of the finals. Who is with me? I think Taylor is with me. We're standing there, we're doing the post game. Bruce Brown has gone and seen his family and stuff. And now he's walking on the court with like his buddies and he walks right behind us and Judeo says, I go right through his chest.

It's a wrist round. The fact that you think that you could, I mean, we've all seen you athletically. No, you haven't. What did you see? I mean, Bob, who is 38 years old? I don't really think Bob Kuzi's seen much of a mean in his day.

25 year old a mean? Lox. A million more year. Lox. I was 38 years old. He wasn't doesn't scream. This is way past my bottom. I'm talking about six pack of mean.

I'm talking about grabbing rim of mean. Yeah. I was just talking about. I was just talking about a black person. I was out here just. I was giving it to you, so man, that's a good one. I mean, it is absurd for you to believe that you in your prime with abs would shut down

Bob Kuzi. I, in fact, would take Bob Kuzi right now over you, right now, even though neither one of you are in your prime anymore. Someone's going to die of that. How old is you of embarrassment? How old is Bob Kuzi right before? I would is Bob Kuzi right? 94. I would take Bob Kuzi right now over Amino has it. I'm not even kidding about that.

Put it on the pole, please, Juju, at Lebitarge show. You have to be kidding about that. I'm not. I'm not. Is he wearing the presidential medal of freedom? This is an important question. Then how many NBA players have you played against? Roger Bell is one. I don't know if he did players have you played against? Roger Bell.

Roger Bell is one of a few days. A 12 year old Roger Bell is a long to shot. I blocked his shot. A 12 year old Roger Bell. This is your fifth. Toughen them up for the lead. He kept your feet. I got you, Derek White.

He was 12 years old. He used to play with his father. His father dominated me. But when Roger came through the lane, I threw a shit, had no problem about it either. Bob Coosie was 11 years old when World War Two started. To be honest, I got caught up in the air. I didn't realize he was 94.

Like 94. I didn't realize he was still alive. It still goes side to side. I would take Coosie in his 70s though. And in his mid 70s, I would take Coosuzi but those last 20 years are hard on the basketball body No, man. Yeah, I've no lock his ass up man. I think you'd look like Jake Kordich in his 70s the juice man with those crazy eyebrows What's this? I felt episode with the most of the family and they kept the man of all this kept challenging Jerry and another older one would pop up I'm like how many of them are there?

That's I would be like Jerry. I need just pulled that sign felt bag We're that I have I have a very very deep bag when it comes to sign you're like My grind you were banished from yesterday show or banished by your own choosing either or you have still not gotten an apology But you did want to talk yesterday about the idea of Beale and Lillard in or both Beale or Lillard? Jack's got both. Yeah, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald has said there is a world where both of them can end up with the Miami Heat. What world? Which was well a luxury tax world in which you're willing to go

hundreds of millions over the tax. For those two. He's not doing that. No, yes, for those two. Absolutely. Absolutely. I just don't think it's realistic. If we want to have a serious conversation, I'm going to tell you guys right now, I think the bill thing could absolutely happen because the biggest difference in bill it happened before this airs Yes, the biggest difference in bill and Lillard is Lillard has pick of the litter and the blazers are gonna say well We're gonna get the maximum amount of return for him and the heat just aren't competitive in that regard Right even though that they have caught up kind of to the rest of the league not the Oklahoma cities of the world but they can now offer these godfather packages but i i think the

the thing about bill is they won't have to give up much for bill that's that's why because the contract is actually like oak and someone kind of take this one off her hands yes the contract that the injury history recently and just the fact that washington clearly is going to pivot to a different direction i think a lot of those guys are on the recently, and just the fact that Washington clearly is going to pivot to a different direction. I think a lot of those guys that are on the wizards right now will not be wizards next year. They're going to be better.

There is actually certainly a path to getting both the Lillard and Beale because- No, no, no, no, no, no. The path would be, they don't actually have to give up a lot to get Beale. And so they have a lot of their assets if they wanted to go all in and do something that they don't really ever do and that's going to the luxury tax. If the Miami Heat for his first class and what a wonderful front office that they are

and their development records speaks for itself, the best thing that they're at is avoiding the luxury tax. But every time they've avoided it, Mike is when the team wasn't like worth a luxury tax. They don't avoid it. Really? Other than Mike Miller. Okay.

Really? Other than Mike Miller. Really? Because the Mike Miller thing and they were in the luxury tax this year. I wasn't a championship job. They were in the finals. Look, they were in the finals. Did you think that decision happened?

They weren't the finals two years ago. We're in the finals. Do you think that decision happened? They weren't the final two years ago. I Will not The same week that the heat get eliminated from the playoffs and the audience has rebelled against all the heat Homeroom around here I will not in a serious world that is absent delusion entertain the idea publicly privately and Any setting of they're gonna get lilyard and be like like you know like keeping Jimmy and band yeah that's for that's the thing for you're to then you're used to be and Duncan Michael Jordan for

for Alan on I would have to sign and trade you're finally makes it to the show there is there just gonna have to say, you're just gonna have to be, I saw his priority. There is a way to do it. No, there isn't. No, so, give me out. There is a big reason, because I'm not paying. No, so, so you forget the luxury tax part of it, just like, if I were to,

if you're saying it's not gonna take that much to get Biel. But, it's saying not that much is still Tyler, a first round break, one of the other contracts. Exactly, because you have to make the money out of. Right, so if, I think the way that I was reading Not that much, it's still Tyler, a first-round pick. Exactly. One of the other contracts. Exactly. No, because you have to make the money out of. Right, so I think the way that I was reading was that if they're able to convince, there's like an Oklahoma City thing where they can get an earlier first-round pick back than

the one that's later. So right now they owe, okay, see, 2024. 2025. 2025. It's 25, like 25. And so they could like flip 28 for 25. Yes exactly. So there's like Basically a way that you could get three first round picks to Portland. Okay, and Caleb Martin. Okay, and If you can sign in trade Gabe and Max and

Whatever else they want dude. He makes 45 and whatever else they want. Dude, he makes $45.00. And you have Kailari, and you have all of these these bad contracts that are available. And you think this is the best Portland can do for no. No, no, no, it takes damn going, that's exactly where I want to be. That's the only way for me to have it.

If he says I'm only going to Miami and I want out. If I'm Portland, I'm saying, we'll just, yeah, I'm not taking gay bits and I want out. If I'm Portland, I'm saying, well, yes, yeah. I'm not taking gay bins and a max truce on new deals. Well, it's, I guess the thought process is, Caleb's a good deal. And if you can get them on big money, but not long-term. So, okay, so you like,

in order to, in order to, do everybody working together. It's just a route. In order to be assigned and trained, they have to do a three year deal minimum. Now, what they can do is guarantee year one and then zero security the last two years. But then you need them to quit.

But then like, if I'm maxed through, somebody, why would I do that? Right. It requires the lusional level of everyone just assuming that we're in on it. No, of course. And it's like beyond the desire of Damien Lillard to say Miami or bus, when there are other options

that are pretty good as well, the biggest thing is you have one big salary piece that you can throw. It's Tyler, right? If you're keeping Jimmy in band, you can either go Tyler and Duncan, Tyler and Caleb, but it's the Tyler's the big salary piece. You only got one shot, which one are you going for?

Like to me, Lillard would just, I don't think you can get that done. So here's a question. Here's a fun one. This one, because there's all these already out there. There's one where they're throwing three first round picks, or technically they're throwing four first round picks at Portland, and then trash players.

Yovic, Lowry, Oledibo. Right. Oledibo. Right. You're throwing four first round picks by getting the one back from Oklahoma City to get the one back from Oklahoma City. You're giving them Caleb and Duncan. To OKC. Right. To get that first round pick back.

OK. So now you've got four first round picks going to Portland. You've got Tyler and multiple second round picks going to Washington. Okay, all right. And now you're not even worrying about the sign-in traits. Four first round picks and fillers, not going to get it. That's not good for a little. You don't think that's enough for a little?

A little? No, I'm asking. I'm saying absolutely not. This is the only scenario you can do and it's incredibly complicated. You have to discover where Max and Gabe are going. And then get those teams into a multiple team deal. And get more picks. So it's like, just more shit.

If anyone could do it in the shaving world, man, it's not impossible. It's impossible. So far, Facts because at least. But you're saying there's a chance. I guess. All right, we did it. Don Lebertard. I don't think in 2021 I can get away with my Michael Irvin radio show and press.

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Maybe he isn't insulted. Okay. Well, get to that in a second. We'll see if I've begun by way of introduction insulting him. But his broadcasting might be better than his tight end play, which is saying something. He just won an Emmy, just got to the game and won an Emmy and gets almost universal applause in a job that doesn't have a whole lot of that. He's obviously, I'm not even going to say a rising star. He's a star and he's a broadcasting star at a time that those are being paid

a great deal. So he's already an underpaid star because he saw what Tom Brady got offered without proving that he's as good at this job as Greg Olson is. He read the numbers. He picked up his computer and saw $375 million for someone who may be better at football than me, but is not better at broadcasting than me

and has improvement that he's better at broadcasting. So we introduce you, Greg, and may never. With the question, will Tom Brady be worse than you at broadcasting? Don't mean to trap you at all. Just wanna know, will he ever broadcast? Is he overpaid and are you underpaid?

I, listen, when I did pick up my computer, you're right, I did pick it up and read that article, and then I think I threw it. No, no, listen, I, the Brady thing, I get it. I obviously have addressed it now, for two years, I don't ever shy away from it. When you have the opportunity to get Tom Brady, you know, some people say arguably the best,

I consider him the best football player who's ever played, I mean, his accomplishments, what he's done are unrivaled in my opinion and a lot of others. I think when you have the opportunity to add him to your stable of talent on a network, I think any network would be foolish not to entertain that and go down that road.

So again, was I thrilled when I heard the news that he was gonna go and I was hoping to get it, long term of course, your personal pride and your competitive spirit kicks in. And you always think you're the best at everything, right? I think everyone who achieves anything, you know, whether it's playing football or in media or broadcasting games or hosting their own show, like you, I think we all think we're the best at everything we do. But at the same time, I always tell myself, I choose to live in reality, right?

I choose to live in a reality where I understand where Tom Brady ranks in the history of this game and just as being just one of the most prominent figures to ever do it, and where I rank. And I feel confident in my ability to do the job. I feel like I showed it last year on the, on the biggest stage multiple times, but at the same time, I'm not going to sit here and lie to myself and pretend like I don't understand the realities of where Tom Brady stacks up

and when he can join your network potentially, um, you know, that pretty much any network or or media organization would, would definitely entertain that conversation. Does winning the sports Emmy soft in your take of I'm not going to roll over and die for Tom Brady? You like that line? That's right.

I mean, I like that, but it's you like now that you got the acolyte? You're a little bit. Yeah, you're a little polished. You've just gotten good at giving the answer to a question you're getting a lot, but I did prefer Greg Olson. I'm not rolling over and dying for Tom Brady.

No, and I still stand by that. I, you know, obviously that got a lot of run and that got a lot of burn. And again, I make sure I'm very clear because Tom Brady deserves to be talked about at a certain level of respect like we all do. So when I say like that I'm confident in my job and then I feel damn good about what I'm able to do

and the product we're able to bring, like I don't look at it as well that means that I have new better than him. We'll find out to bring, like, I don't look at it as, well, that means that I have new better than him. We'll find out, right? Tom will, maybe, I don't know, how it all shakes out, get to our two call games and then people can be the, they can be the deciding factors

of that, but my point about not rolling over and dying when I said that was no different than when I was a player. The amount of times, whether it was at Miami and they brought in a five-star recruit who, every message board and rivals are gonna say, oh, he's gonna, you know, Olsen's been disappointing. He hasn't started yet.

He's a red shirt freshman. It hasn't started. This next five-star, he'll be the starting, you know, tight end as a freshman. Like, whether it was that, or when I was in, you know, Chicago and they brought in Brandon, Madame Aliyuno to be the starter and paid him $15 million.

Or when they drafted a guy when I was in Carolina, like, it happened to me a million times and my philosophy always was I'm gonna make it so damn hard on you to ever take my job that if you do you better be really, really good. And so it's really just that approach that I had as a player for my whole life that I've tried to carry into doing the broadcasting. I'm gonna be as competitive as I can. I'm gonna try to be as good as I can. And I don't get to make the final decision who sits in my seat, but I'm gonna try to make it as hard

on those people who make those decisions as possible. And that's really the only way I know how to operate. And I'm not gonna change that at this point. Forgive my ignorance because I might have this wrong. I don't have it in front of me, but didn't you have a contract clause that if you're not like the number one or number two an answer, your contract becomes void

and you can go and try to have whoever wants to hire you hire you. Didn't you make outs for yourself based on you didn't want to be limited up front? You knew you were going to be good at this. Yeah, so we, the one thing I will say, and I've been pretty clear on this from the beginning is through all the Tom Brady discussions. When this goes all the way back to last spring, when Joe and Troy left to go to ESPN, and

then there was that period of time where there was a lot of speculation of who was going to get that seat. Of course, me being on the number two team with Kevin Burkhart, we were one of the groups that were rumored to be in it. And then Tom came out of nowhere, but then there was all the other usual suspects and the names that kind of get kicked around in the carousel with droopries and so on and so forth. But the one thing I will say is Fox was very upfront with us, you know,

to let us know that Tom was coming on board. They called us. They talked it through. They want me to do well. They have done nothing, but put me in a position to succeed from who they've put me. My partners have been what games I've called from the very beginning back, you know,

when I was still a player and they gave me the opportunity to call games on my biweek. So Fox has been, you know, my biggest supporter, my biggest advocate from day one. And they were very clear that, listen, if Tom comes and he takes it and you have other opportunities out there like we wanna see you succeed, we wanna see you call big time games.

We hope it's here with us. But so they've been really great partners with us. They've been very transparent. Transparency, listen, I hope I call 10 more Super Bowls with Fox, you know, for the next 30 years. And that very well may happen. I think we don't know right now. We'll see what Tom, you know,

what, how things pan out with Tom after he takes this season off. And for right now, I'm still calling the biggest games every Sunday afternoon. I'm still working with Kevin and Aaron and Tom. And we're going to call big time games, call playoff games, call the NFC championship. And we'll see where things sort out. Olson, how do you feel about Dan's introduction where he said you're the fifth best tight end in UM history? How do you feel about it? There is no chance in the world that I'm the fifth best tight end.

So let's talk about this because are we talking career at Miami or just overall career in the NFL? I'm talking about career at Miami and then what both I would say, I would say both. When I think am tight end greatness I name this name this name this name whoever they are Jeremy shocky you're on that list have I insulted you by putting you in the top five no I think if you just take what what we accomplished at Miami I I think thought I would say shocky accomplished more national champion all American multiple times. So at shock, you make sense,

you could probably put Bubba in that category. Wingslow obviously was was highly successful in college from individuals statistics. The team didn't win as much as they did when shock. He was there. So I would say I'm right probably after them as far as college. My college numbers weren't great. I mean, my that's just reality of it. I'm fine with that, but I think if you look at NFL achievements, I think I'm number one in my mind. That's right. Yeah, I mean, if you just, I mean, just from a production standpoint, from year's play, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and be my own cheerleader and pom-pom, but I think

if you just, if you just look it up and stack up the career numbers, I mean, Jimmy, Jimmy Graham's pretty close. I think Jimmy was on a trajectory before he went out to Seattle. His time in New Orleans, he was on a trajectory of being kind of like what we're seeing Travis Kelsey do now. I mean, he's having 12, 1300 yard seasons

like every year for a while there with Drew Breeze early in his career then he got traded to Seattle and it was never quite the same production. But Jimmy's pretty much up there but I don't think any of them have as many yards or catches as I do. Jimmy has more touchdowns, I bet. You insulted him then.

Yeah. Good job. No, I'm not insulted. I'm just laying all the facts. I appreciate you laying out the side. We have in our midst here an internationally renowned insider when it comes to reporting. This week he broke the messy story and he has reported as well. This is not from reported sources. It is simply from a conjecture that looks suspicious that Tom Brady will not be broadcasting next year because he's going to be

quarterbacking the raiders uh... can you confirm that report for us please greg olson that tom brady that you're gonna get to keep your job because tom brady doesn't want three hundred seventy five million dollars because he wants to play quarterback for the raiders and there's no one in the world that would love to confirm that report more than me.

Okay. There is no one in the world that would love to say, you know what, Dan, you are 100% right. I'm glad that story is out there. Tom's not, I have no idea what Tom's going to do. I think Tom has the right that he gets to do what he wants to do on his, on his, on his accord. I don't, I don't know his on his on his accord. I don't I don't know whether Tom will ever play again. I don't know if Tom. Oh, you know. Oh, so why can't you just call him? Oh, it affects your future and your life respect between

football players. Ed Lodler is breaking. Why can't you just call him and say, Hey, what are you doing? We you guys should bring them on your show and just pit them on the corner and just get an answer out of them. Stubatode. He's down there, Miami. He's down there, Miami, any somewhere around here. Well, how can you not find out? Guys, when I tell you, I wish I knew. I wish I knew I don't.

I really don't know. The only thing I do know is that I'm calling the games this year with the same team at Fox. We're going to be the A team at Fox. We're going to call through all the playoffs. We're going to culminate with the NFC championship. Obviously, we don't have the Super Bowl again. We had it last year. So we have a year off. Then Fox has it the following year. So that's that year will be interesting because if Tom does come, that will be Tom's first year. If Tom doesn't come, then I would get to call presumably, if I don't stink this year, I would presumably get to call another Super Bowl, which would be really cool.

So Fox had two out of three years, you know, the one we just did in Arizona, and then the one next year. So next off season, we'll find out, I guess I wish I hope your insider is spot on. I just I don't, I don't, you are calling an odd number of raiders games this season the second most prime time games I read it's weird great. I just want to say I am so impressed by your commitment to to facts that back up How good you are at doing stuff? You're not saying you're good. You're just like here the facts and this is what makes me great and I just Hat tip for that really like that fact-based reporting. Thank you

That's it. I got it's a it's a loss. Arthesays isn't it? Facts I'm the greatest. Everyone else is surrounded by fake news, but Greg Olson is reporting that he is the greatest tight end in the currency of Miami history. Those are the facts. Pro pro pro side end. Yeah, let's be clear.

Let's not get this head like I can just stand the fact head line. Yeah. Do you have the other U.M. grad ends have a tight end university because Greg Olson does. That's where he's at right now. There we go. I want to be right now. What are you doing here? Because I love George Kittle. I love Mr. Kittle even more. I know they help put this thing together. Also, what are you doing with this thing? Yeah. So I two, so two years ago, this will be our third annual tight end university. We do it every year down in Nashville.

We hosted at Vanderbilt University. They give us access to their facility, their meeting rooms, their training rooms, the weight room, and then obviously their practice field. So we started this kind of on a whim two years ago, 2021. It was right after I had retired following my 2020 season, Kittle and I had gotten to be close. He texted me, he's like, hey, a bunch of guys trained down in Nashville.

We live here in the off season. Would you ever want to come down and work with some of these guys? They're young, whatnot and just kind of share some stories, share some tips, whatever. I said, I would love that, just to stay involved with the game. So me and George start texting and it went from five guys to 10 guys. And next thing, you know, there's like 10, 15 guys that said they wanted to come. So George and I were like, you know, there's like 10, 15 guys that said they wanted to come. So George and I were like, you know, there's other positions that do this.

You know, the offensive line, Vaughn Miller does one for pass rushers. So it's not really a new concept. It's been done over the years. They had the old quarterback club years ago. So we said, you know, why don't we see if we can make this kind of like an event and see we can get multiple guys, maybe we can get 20, 25 guys to come down to

Nashville. And we'll do a two and a half day kind of tight end, all tight ends summit. So we got Kelsey involved. So Travis Kelsey got involved. So the three of us, in essence, started to you, you mentioned Bruce George Kiddles dad, he does a lot of the day to day and a lot of the op stuff for us. And in the first year, we had about 50 guys come down to Nashville last year. We had had 80, which we've, which is kind of our max. You can only handle so many guys. So this year, we got about 80, 85 guys coming down for year three. Sharman again, you get the connection. They love tight ends. There are presenting sponsored. They're back for another year. You get thank you, Stu got to appreciate you picking up on there. So it's just a really cool thing. I don't think, I don't think

Sherman cares whether the ends are tight or not as long as they're just buying droid-lid paper. So it's really just ends. It's just, they're more into just ends whether they're tight or loose. They don't care whether they're tight. Yours happen to be tight. It's a kiddo that ends to be tight.

But don't, don't exclude non-tight ends. Those are also welcome to spend money on soft toilet paper. No doubt. No doubt. And then we, and what's really cool, we do a lot of community stuff out there. We're doing the literacy program. Richdon comes in, their headquarters is down there in that area. We're doing a big literacy program last year we brought in the Boys of Girls Club.

We gave them a huge donation. So we, we, all the money that goes into putting the event on and then everything that's left over. We donate to charity, both in and mostly around the Nashville surrounding area and then also throughout the country. So it's really a community event, but really just a who's who of top tier NFL tight ends, undrafted rookies that have never played a snap. Everybody in between is welcome. And it's really grown into a pretty big annual event. Greg, thank you for being on with us. I think of Kiddell as being closer to lunatic than literate. I think like among everyone that you guys have there, I think he wins the

lunatic tight end rankings. Do you have someone who would beat Kiddell at the lunatic tight end rankings? So, Gronk is coming this year. Gronk has never come in years past. So Gronk is coming this year. Grok has never come in years past. So Grok has come in. What's so funny about being around, I've been around grok obviously for a long time over the years. We trained together. The year he came out from school, he trained down in Miami at the same place

that I would go to in the off seasons down there with Bama Rito. So I got to know him coming out. He played crazy. He had that, but really away from the fit. Like you couldn't ask for a more like genuine down-to-earth like regular good dude. George is kind of the same way. Like he plays like a wild man.

He plays like a WWE, which is why he's always in wrestling and WrestleMania and all that. But like away from the game, he is just a down-earth. He's got a great family. He's mom and dad, his wife. They're very involved in T.E.U. They're just good people, works his ass off, plays his ass. So he's got a great family. He's mom and dad is wife. They're very involved in T.E.U. They're just good people. Works his ass off, um, plays his ass. So he's just a great dude. But yeah, I mean, when he gets on the field, I agree with you. He's got a little

lunatic in him for sure. Olson, I want a broadcast from this event. Can I do it? We have a little show called God bless football. And I spoke to Bruce Kittle about this. I want to broadcast from the event. We got to go. Oh, thank you. We got to go. Oldson's about to say yes. Greg, thank you. Next year feel free to do it. I was going to say yes, but Dan cut me off. See you later, Oldson. Good talking to you. Thank you. Appreciate it guys. Thanks.