The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Recording In Progress

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

David Samson is here for his regular Thursday Local Hour! Messi and Inter Miami continue to blow our collective minds after another thrilling victory in the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup. Can Messi and Inter Miami fast track MLS? If you're just following now, are you too late to the party? Then, David and the crew dive into Shohei Ohtani's UCL injury, Baker Mayfield's family, the Yankees, and more. Plus, Izzy, Mike, and the Shipping Container spin the wheel of topics involving Tua, Jimmy Butler, and the Marlins. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat's Podcast. Wow. I don't know what happened there, but I'm going to restart. Increable in progress. Wow I don't know what happened there, but I'm gonna restart. We are recording Increable is what I would say because I was watching the messy and Inter Miami versus Cincinnati semi-final in the Lamar Hunt US open cup and watching it on Telemundo and man that was exciting

That was crazy. They had Andreass Cantor on the call, right? Yeah. They had. Yeah, it was very exciting. And I truly implore people that are just curious about soccer and curious about this messy spectacle. I do think that this whole experiment is winning fans over just because of how bonkers these games have gone. They've been highly entertaining.

They're bad enough defensively that they need to lean on messy to be special. And in the 98th minute, you have a long ball delivered by Lionel Messi, which defies logic given the scenario. You could give good soccer players, 300 attempts to deliver that ball with that precision over the defender under the keeper and right on the noggin of Campana who redeemed himself quite nicely last night. It was an unbelievable moment. And they kind of have this thing about them right now where you expect them to do it. And it wasn't even that, that nervous.

And we'll bring in David Samson here, host of nothing personal for Thursday. It's not Thursday without David Samson. David, where do you stand on what kind of jolt inter is giving for the city, to the other teams in the market? What does it, what does all mean to you right now? I'm super happy. I'm not the president of the Marlins anymore.

Why is that? It is the attention that the, that inter Miami is getting. I was late to the party. I did not think that Inter Miami even with Messi would be able to attract the time of the type of attention or the type of resources that I think they are going to attract and are attracting now. And it is a zero sum game. It's not as though more corporations are moving into Miami. All of a sudden, there's more corporate revenue where there's more disposable income. So if they're getting more money, that means somebody's getting less. And for all of the

other teams who are pretending how great this is for Miami, it is not ideal for the other teams because something's going to have to give. And we're seeing it with the attention the Marlins get who are having a great season, who are in a playoff race, and no one cares, and that is very tough to take. So your thoughts are, they're taking eyes away from the other teams, and that's a bad thing. There's only 24 hours in a day, I didn't say it's a bad thing. A fan will. It's, thank you.

I would argue if you're a little late to the party, though, you're right on time. No one wants a show to a party right on time. Like, you've arrived at the perfect, you're not late. Just like 15 minutes late, perfect. I watched the game last night and I had an opportunity. There's all sorts of things I could have been watching and I was watching Inter Miami play Cincinnati in a cup that I admit I had never heard of.

I didn't know what it was. I didn't know what was at stake and I was watching to see what Messi could do when he's playing against an MLS team. And for the first bit, I actually thought it was just a regular MLS game for the standings. And then I learned and did the research and spoke to Coco to understand what I was watching. But what I'm really watching is trying to see if I can see a memory or history. And in the 98th minute with that pass, and I'm no connoisseur of soccer, but I cannot imagine the skill required to do that. And I love the camera that CBS had

where you can just watch him. And I love the fact it's such a weird sport where you can just walk around. No. Look at that, like on a basketball court. You can't just walk around, he can. Right. Right. That's it. That's a big difference.

I saw that some advice that Messi was giving one of the Academy products, David Ruiz, and he said, you run too much. Just let's just walk and the game will come to you. No, Messi, the game comes to you because you're the alpha. You're the guy that everyone knows they need to get the ball to,

but he does conserve energy, and that's actually pretty good news for the people of New Jersey that hold tickets to this MLS debut of his that is happening on Saturday. He is playing every minute, and Tatamartino already said that he expects him to play against New York Red Bulls,

which is the Lionel Messi's proper MLS debut. It's all been cup competitions, which I had a ball trying to explain that to people yesterday. David, every game he's played has had moments. And this is the first one without his goals. And you talk about who he was playing. That's the team with the best record, right? I'm defeated in the season. Yeah. In Cincinnati, and they're up to to nothing. In the first half or early in the second half. And so it is, yeah, it is, it was a moment in itself to have him that them come back and him serve up those two perfect passes to Campana, which by the way,

talk about a rebound after that, you know, chip and miss from the last one. Yes, they won the game and everything else. But man, that's the way you come back from that. Well, it's great business. And I'm curious to hear David's input in this. You could already see there's a website that does its best to mark transfer values. And the messy effect is very real. Players like Campana, players like Robert Taylor, Drake Calendar, who is on a provisional roster for the US for a call-up,

he's already played for the US men's national team before. Grema is gonna get a call-up and there's a debate as to whether or not he plays for Argentina or the US. All these transfer market values are going up because there are more eyes on these Academy products like Noah Allen, Karema, and David Ruiz that all of a sudden scouts are paying more attention to. Everybody is really benefiting from the visibility including opposition. If you're Don Garber, you think that Inter Miami can do what it's doing in all

of these tournaments, but still be a last place team in MLS? Does it matter to you as a fan of Inter Miami if they don't make the playoffs in MLS because they won the cup, they won the league cup and they could win this, this US cup? Does that make it okay to not be competitive in the actual Major League soccer? We talked about this a little bit yesterday, David, and I think part of the reasoning is that no, you can't just say it's okay for them not to be competitive. But all of these wins in these cup games are telling you, hey, when the season does come back, they're most likely going to make a run as long as Messi is in decent form and doesn't get

hurt or anything else. They're most likely going to make a run as long as Messi is in decent form and doesn't get hurt or anything else, they're most likely going to make a run and that's the excitement. See if they can make a run to that final playoff spot, spend the regular season getting to know them, following them, rallying them, and if they make it great, you know that they are probably the hottest team in the league and could win that cup. And if they don't, then you at least have something that sort of drives you to the next season. So going into next season, I think so what we're saying is that this year's a pass, but next year in MLS, they've got to be one of the top teams in the table or else do you view the messy experiment as being great for business, but didn't have the desired impact on the field. I mean, it's a long way to go. We have to at least finish this, you know, get to the regular season at this point

to see what they look like, because they could be in great form. It could be that these cup games bring the absolute best out of the competition right now. They're seeing messy for the first time. Not saying that these games are gonna get easier, but maybe a little bit less focus from the opposition if it's not an absolute must win of a game necessarily.

I think messy being on the field probably changes that. I'm fascinated. I'm fascinated hearing people the field probably changes that. I'm fascinated. I'm fascinated hearing people that aren't necessarily super familiar with Emma Less and all these different competitions weigh in and prioritize Emma Less. I'm not even saying that you're wrong. I do think that Emma Less is the biggest trophy available to them, but you play your league year, your campaign

to win trophies. They're in line to win a double. Excuse me. Out of cash. to win a double. Excuse me. Out of cash. It's a most useful. Excuse me again. Greece, it's still in my throat. But David, this is the worst incarnation of Inter Miami

that we'll see throughout Leo Messi's tenure. And while it's a really deep hole that they have to dig themselves out of in the league, if they do that and make the playoffs and likely upset Cincinnati once again in a first round matchup because if they get into the playoffs, it probably go in as one of the lowest seeds available. And he does that too when most American fans that don't have a lot of reference points to MLS are saying, well, that's competition that matters in their last place.

We've heard that ad nauseam this week. If he does that too, my God. He's already done enough. I want to read some stuff for David that just sort of shows about the growth that Messy's arrival has created for inter Miami and MLS. And the question is going to be basically just knowing this, if they do nothing the rest of the regular season,

is it worth it? Okay, this is on an Instagram site called Passionate Income. The MLS season passed on Apple TV plus saw a subscription increase of twice as much after Messi joined Inter Miami. Tickets are being resold at over 1,700% of their original value. Messi's Inter Miami jersey was the best selling in all of sports in the USA. And their Instagram accounts grown over four two over 14 million followers to passing any team in the NHL NFL or MLB. Any of that

worth it to you. If you see that already. So, a couple of things. Start with the resell price. That is a sort of fagazi. That does not accrue to the benefit of the team at all. That accrue to the people like Mike who spend their work day trying to get tickets and then resell them. So that's nice for fans, but it doesn't help. The jerseys, that's great that he's the number one selling jersey, but when you actually add up what that means in terms of distributions to a team, it's not enough to move the bar.

What we really need to see going forward, the messy effect comes in the values of the assets. So, Moss can say all he wants that his team is worth a billion dollars now. We're a billion and a half dollars, but until we see team's trade hands, and we are seeing an increase in the expansion fees, but I'm talking about the actual value of the teams and what people are willing to pay, the billionaires who are willing to pay. That's when Don Garber gets to do his victory lap and get to the seat of the table with the other commissioners like silver and Gidele and Manfred. So that's really what I'm waiting to see.

Mike, any truth or possibility of them moving this game and if they do to a bigger site than what does that mean for them? No, there were discussions and I've also reported that the Moss family feels very strongly about making sure Stephen Ross does not capitalize on this messy thing whatsoever. They felt passionately about this. So I was surprised when I saw that Moss confirmed to the media that they had exploratory conversations with Hard Rock Stadium to see if they made this final, which they just punched their ticket to,

whether or not that game would be at Hard Rock Stadium, but the team sent an email of last season ticket holders saying they'd have first dibs on these tickets and that the game will indeed happen at DrivePink, which confirmed my early report, which is Moss Family Ain't Too Thrilled with Steven Ross, Stephen Ross, which confirmed my early report, which is Moss Family Ain't Too Thrilled with given Stephen Ross a single dime from this because the way that they see it,

Stephen Ross has not been helpful at all to their enterprise and has actually stood in the way and presented them some hurdles. Just under a minute, David, go ahead. But I thought that all the owners, they all love each other and they're all here for all of them to get better and everyone gets along and roots for everybody else.

Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting conversation. We can keep going to a David. I do want to get back on the other side with you about the show, Hey, O'Connor, injury. You know, if you got the elbow, ligament, tear, he's going to have the tummy John's surgery perhaps not even short. It's not a full tear, I don't believe, but there's so many layers to this conversation with Shohei, given that he's going into free agency, given that he is obviously the best player in the game right now, and given that perhaps one side of the field, one side that he is obviously the pitcher,

and he might not be able to do that again. What does that mean for his value? I think this is probably the discussion that David Samson was born for. Am I right, David? I'm ready. Yeah. We're all ready. We'll be back with Samson in a second. Don Lebatard. Amino Hassan. Stugats. Amino Hassan. This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats. It was ended by Draft King Sportsbook, won a Bermurikus Top-Rated Sportsbook Apps. DraftKings has all kinds of ways to get in on the action including seeing game-pollies, props, live betting, and so much more.

Use Go Dan Wings sign up on a DraftKing Sportsbook app to check it out. Before we move into that O'Tonnie conversation, I'm fascinated by it. There's one more aspect of the messy story that I wanna cover with David Samson. There were owners meetings at MLS All Star in DC and the Moss family has been really pushing the rest of the league opening up their coffers and spending. Now is the time.

We got messy in this league. Now is the time to get rid of some of these antiquated rules about designated players and salary caps. Let's go for it. A lot of the new ownership in this league wants to spend money. The hunt family for one doesn't. I've even heard that there's been a sea change in Robert Krabs' approach to it, but a lot of the old MLS card that is to their credit really navigated some difficult financial waters

early on their hesitant bank uber is a newer team but they're also hesitant to go full board and full board into this and they want a practical pragmatic conservative approach while the new ownership wants to go and spend money it seems as though given the success of international subscriptions which message it's a cut up and the overall, and the fact that he's just dominating a lot of these defenses right now that they have to do something on the field to be successful to stop this team in particular, which, as I pointed out, is at its weakest.

Do you think this is going to fast track MLS, seeing that there's a world cup in the United States in three years time, two and a half years time. Do you think they're going to issue their conservative ways of financials and go for it? The proof that they're not is that the revenue that you're all saying is coming into Moss, and I'm also curious I want to get to why you keep calling him the Moss family. Doesn't Jorge want you to refer to Jorge Moss as the owner of Inter Miami? He believes it to be a family enterprise. Jose Moss is deeply involved. His son Jorge Moss Jr. is involved like David Beckham Moss.

Yeah, they view it as a family enterprise. It's just funny. It used to be David Beckham and then Jorge Moss. Now you're going to Moss family. So I guess that's what we're going to go. But the proof is, just majorly soccer want to become majorly baseball, where you've got the Yankees and Padres and Metz or you can just talk about Steve Cohn where you've got a payroll of 60

million and a payroll of 360 million. Is that really where salary caps work, salary floors work, keeping the bands between the top and the bottom as small as possible? That is what fosters and breeds competition. What you're saying is that there are people who want to get into the haves and the have-not game. And that is a game that is proven to be very, very bad for on field competitive balance. I think people see this, see that SARS generate subscriptions. And I understand there are

very few SARS on the planet that China is bright as Leo Messi. But they see a real opportunity here to basically microwave a league and we're seeing this experiment play out in Saudi Arabia. They feel they are well positioned right now. They have the world's attention right now and they have the United States that they're disposable. It's a very attractive media market and if they stop going for aging players and actually

go for players that were seeing Excel in Europe, perhaps even younger players, that there's a real opportunity for them to be taken seriously and creep into that top five leagues in the world. Right now, being the biggest league on this side of the planet is a real possibility given the financials that we see down in South America. You just mentioned Saudi Arabia. Keep in mind, forget the sports washing issue with Saudi Arabia. The real issue with Saudi Arabia is they're not running it as a business. Saudi Arabian teams don't make money. And so what you're asking is for owners

here in the US to sign up to a model which guarantees loss versus profit. And it's very difficult to find people to do that. So I just don't think it's happening. And by definition with your comparison, you're actually answering your own question of why it's not going to happen. David Samson, host of Nothing Personal here and his normal Thursday spot. And David, one of your favorite topics, player contract negotiations. And you've got the biggest contract on the way that's ever, a major league baseball will have ever seen in Show Hay O'Tani's.

He's got a UCL injury and will not pitch for likely at least another year and he's going into his free agency. Wow, what does that mean for him? What does it mean for baseball? What does it mean for this winter? It's a nightmare all the way around. So let's start with show Hayotani as the greatest player who ever played baseball. That's the theory that we all have because he's a top of the rotation starter and he's a middle of the order bat. So if he can be Aaron judge and Garrett Cole, then

why isn't he paid Aaron judge plus Garrett Cole? And that was the plan for him and his agent that he would get 50 or 60 million dollars a year and going into age 31, let him sign a 10 year deal. And my problem was how long can he actually do both at this level? This injury, what it guarantees is, and I discussed it on this morning, it's nothing personal. Number one, his free agent deal will include an opt-out, because the only way I would allow him to sign, if I were his agent, is that he's not going to get paid

like both because he's not both right now. He is going to have any years, David. I would not give it till after 26. He's going to ask for it after 25, but an opt out after two years, all of the money that you're spending and then you're only getting him for two years is that really worth it to do. And only one of those years would be him pitching, probably.

So that year 100% right, he is not going to pitch for the rest of 24. He is likely not going to pitch in 2000 for the rest of 23 and likely not going to pitch in 24. So the first time that he can pitch is 25, but tell me the list of players and one of them is a former Marlon who is able to pitch after two Tommy Johns and pitch effectively. Our old friend, Nate of Aldi. That's pretty much the list. It's not Josh Johnson who tried and had multiple Tommy Johns.

It is incredibly rare and don't mention Daniel Hudson. That doesn't count. For Otani to be the best pitcher in baseball after two Tommy Johns, it's going to be very challenging. So the likelihood of him being an ace for the next five years is diminimous. For the next 10 years, it's absolutely out of the question. They should have traded them. So the interesting part, David, the interesting part that I look at now when I think about this sort of smaller contract that O'Tani could get or this contract with opt-outs is, does

that mean some of the smaller market teams in Major League Baseball could potentially now get in on trying to recruit Otani with the idea of, we'll offer you this massive deal like you guys did with Sean Carlos Stanton knowing very well, we won't pay this entire thing. We'll have him here for a couple of years as a gimmick and then we'll let him be in my life. Well one way or another, this, this franchise in this theoretical scenario, knowing, hey, if Otani is everything that he's supposed to

be and he gets healthy, he's going to opt out after a couple of years anyway. And we won't have to pay 10 years, 400 million. So could a team say like the Marlins decide, sure, we'll offer the first couple of years will be $80 million to have show, hey, O'Connie. But then after that, he's gone. Basically does the injury open up the door for a bunch of teams to get involved in the show, hey, deal.

No, I totally understood that question, but the answer is no. And the reason the answer is no is you have to look at what percentage of your total payroll and individual player takes. And when we signed Stanton, we did the math and at his height, he was going to be at $32 million. And our view was that we would have a payroll of at least $150 million by that time, which would have been right about now. Because the most you ever want to do is 20% for one player of your total payroll. And then you better have a good young team who can supplement in order to really

win with the player making that much. And so if your payroll is 150 now and you're paying O'Tani $40 million, that math just doesn't work. So I don't think that he is available to any team whose payroll is below $190 to $220 million. Well, there goes that dream. Chris actually made a couple of points. Good points here. You said, imagine how good the angels would have felt. I don't know why I said, actually, I'm sorry, Chris.

I was, I was doing it off air. I'm not actually because he didn't do it on air. But he said, what are the points? Was imagine how good they'd feel if they did trade him now and found out about this injury. Also, they need to just work him to the ground and make him less attractive, even more for the rest of this year to other people. Isn't that what the angels are

possibly doing right now? They're trying to make his value as little as possible, no? Yeah, if I'm Otani, I'm not playing the rest of the year. There is no reason. We didn't even mention the fact that Mike Trout went back on the injured list after being off for a day. If I were the president of the Marlins and we did that, you guys would be hammering right now as irresponsible, not knowing how to handle a player or injury. They let him come back from the same thing that happened to Lowell back in 03, the broken ham at bone right here when you get hit by a pitch.

And he came back for a day and said, Oh, it's not worth it. It hurts too much. I'm back on the IL. If I'm O'otani and I'm O'Tani's agent, I love that he went one for five in game two of the double header and then he came back and hit after he was hurt and game one is a pitcher, but it's just not worth it because if any of his mechanics change and he ends up with any sort of shoulder issue or lower half issue because he has to compensate, even though he was able to come back as a DH after Tommy John earlier than he was able to come back and pitch, he'll John earlier than he was able to come back and pitch

He'll be able to do that again But there is no reason the angels are finished if I'm Otani I love baseball, but no I'm done for the year There's been a lot to cover with David Samson and we've only really covered two topics with him So we're gonna bring him back for an additional segment But for the two minutes remaining in this one. I saw a really sad story revolving Baker Mayfield, who was just named Sardar in Tampa Bay, and a missing $12 million potentially. And it looks like he trusted his family and it's a cautionary tale, David.

It is Baker Mayfield is trying to replace Tom Brady as the number one quarterback in Tampa, named Sardar. And he just filed a petition. The story is that he filed a petition to try to find $12 million that he can't find. I'm not sure how that happened. � But, but, but, exactly under the mattress. That's so much money.

That, when you consider, he hasn't made that much money in his career. He hasn't had the big contract. That is, Majority of his net worth. That is a devastating amount of money to lose. But the, it's,'s way that's not nearly as devastating as what he is hypothesizing happened to it. The witness list of people who were being it's it's a petition in court. It's not exactly a lawsuit quite yet. It's a petition to

understand what happened to the 12 million. But all the witnesses who are being interviewed because all the people who were handling his money were family. And the question is did his family actually walk away with his money and it wouldn't be the first time it happens to Gary Coleman. That's a terrible reference. You're going to make fun of because people don't know who that is anymore. Is anyone know Gary Coleman is Gary Coleman? I thought you said Gary Coleman, who I thought you said, Gary Coleman, who I thought was

talking about. What's going on? Gary Coleman and just another child star who went bankrupt and his parents took all his money or Britney Spears, whose father used her money and under the auspice of a conservatorship. And if this happened to Baker Mayfield, which he's claiming it did, he is also claiming it's not a distraction that he's relieved now that it's out in the open and that he can focus on being the quarterback. But when you hear stories about what your family's done to you, it's jarring, it's upsetting, and it definitely impacts your ability to perform on the field.

The most memorable one for me recently was Whitney Houston and her bio pick, noting I heard dad took advantage and took all of her money. But we'll have more with David Sampson on the other side. Don Lebertard. Well, you guys building out the a rod bathroom of your imaginations. Is that what I heard you discussing during the break? Towels with an a on them. You know the thing you slide the toilet paper on, that's a baseball bat.

Hey, like that. Still gots. You think he actually calls it the throne? Probably does. It's an actual throne. It's an actual throne. An actual throne. There's got to be a full length mirror in there somewhere. I imagine somewhere in his house, he has a replica of David, but with his head on it. This is the down lebertar show with a stugats. Presented by DraftKings Sportsbook, one of America's top rated sports book apps. DraftKings has all kinds of ways to get in on the action, including same game parles, props,

live bedding, and so much more. Use code Dan when you sign up on the DraftKings Sportsbook app to check it out. David, I want to bring this back to the local ties between Inter Miami and the Marlins. And you mentioned that, you know, as the Marlins team president, you'd be upset that Inter Miami has this much attention and what's been going on here. But I remember a few months ago, we talked about the same sort of concept with the Marlins season potentially not being paid attention to because of the heat and the panthers runs in the postseason, and how ultimately there'd be some sort of hangover from sports potentially.

And they weren't getting the same amount of attention. And then in July, the Marlins had their highest TV ratings in three years for a single month. And now we look at this time within our Miami and messy being here. And in the midst of all of this, the Marlins had one of their highest attended weekend series in the history of the ballpark. So my question is, what is the tie that you're finding between a lack of attention to the Marlins and the success of these other teams?

Because to me, it seems like when these other teams succeed and have attention, that's just a good thing for any other team in this fan base. He's smirking like he hasn't answered this. Oh, I'm just smiling. Are you talking about the 100,000 and one people who came to be the same? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. you talking about the 100,000 and one people who came to be serious? Yes, I am. 100,000 and one. I was that one. I was an and one. That was

me, by the way. I was there for one of those games. Not having bought a ticket. No, I bought a ticket. I went with my family. I'm like, it's to be very difficult to believe, but the Yankees, of course, are a draw. There's no question. So when you have them in, you are gonna get great attendance. But if you're gonna, if you're gonna pat attendance, and Major League Baseball has done a great job

of announcing increased attendance and all the great momentum, it's not a coincidence that the new baseball rules are helping and that you can add to it all these record attendance. And it's the best attendance in five years. It's all part of the PR plan to say, hey, how good a shape baseball is in.

I get all that. But ratings, we don't get $1 from a TV contract based on ratings. Not ever. That was not what our TV deal was based on nor the current TV deal the Marlins have. Whether your ratings are 30,000 people watching or 20,000 or 60,000, it doesn't impact what you're getting

from the now bankrupt valleys. Sorry, so I wouldn't say financially, I was making this argument. I would say that we were all having this conversation about relevance, relevance in the market, how much the team matters, how much people are paying attention, and it seems like more people are paying attention to the Marlins because they're good, and because there are

other teams here succeeding. So there's a bigger appetite for sports. What I'm not understanding is, yes, of course, the bottom line is never going to change on your TV contracts, whether or not more people are paying attention one season versus the next, but it can't be a bad thing for the Marlins that there's been this success in the other teams down here. If you ask Bruce Sherman, he would tell you that it is not a good thing that inter Miami is relevant.

What we would do is we would count, we used to count minutes on the local newscasts, we would count inches in the newspaper, or when things were online, we would count placement, where our articles were, our game articles, whether or not our players were being asked to do features, and where those would appear online, what the views and the clicks would be for those.

And there was absolutely no doubt that there was a direct correlation between the success of the other teams and the lack of attention and relevance that we were getting, whether we were having a good year or bad because we would count bad articles as well because it doesn't matter. How much of your being talked about? How much of your data was skewed by the fact that your teams weren't really competitive, good year or bad because we would count bad articles as well. Yeah. Because it doesn't matter. How much of your being talked about. How much of your data was skewed by the fact that your teams weren't really competitive, though, if the Marlins put a competitive product out of that.

That's not true. You had Jose Fernandez and you had that one year, but generally your sample size had you in a fairly relevant space. Yeah, again, I take Umbridge to that because let's go season by season. We were competitive and through September and 0 4 and 0 5 0 6 was one of the great years, even though we had torn the team down and we had an we had that great young team. It's 20 years ago, go to the Freddie Gonzales years, then go to Stanton, Yellow Chosuna, go to the new ballpark, go to the all star game. There was always a reason why we were going to be

relevant either positively or negatively. And there was no doubt that the deeper the heat went and they were winning all those championships those years with LeBron James, it 100% impacted the amount of attention we got. I guess the easiest argument to make on Inter Miami's success being bad for the Miami Marlins is that their seasons happen at exactly the same time. Absolutely. They're both trying to collect dollars from mostly his spanish sports fans in the Miami-Dade and Broward County areas. And now there's a consideration for those dollars at Drive Pink Stadium where yours prior, they probably wasn't. It's that, but it's also the corporate money. Remember Miami is a terrible corporate

city. And I don't mean a terrible city. I mean, there's not a lot of corporations who do business and who want to be sponsors. If you look at who the sponsors are with the Marlins, we were never able to get the carnivals, the burger kings, the riders, the ones who are associated with Miami because they're more based on national attention. And locally, it's hard to get those big naming rights deals. Loan Depot doesn't count. That was done because of the big deal they did with Major League Baseball.

And so I have feelings about this because I understand how difficult it is for teams in Miami to grab a hold of the existing corporate dollar and having another team in the market. And we're gonna talk about this with Vegas because if the Vegas aides think that they're all of a sudden going to compete with the golden nights and the raiders, it's the same amount of money available being split yet in extra way. And that's what's happening in Miami. And that's not a positive. David Wailer, get to your movie review in a second, but I wanted

to see how you're experiencing the Yankees recently. They just have broken nine game, losing streak, needed air and judge to go absolutely nuts, but there's also discussions about maybe Derek Geter finding his way back there to replace him. Give me a break. I know. Come on.

Come on. Easy. If I'll tell you right now, if Derek Jeter is named the new general manager of the Yankees, I will work for Metalark for the rest of my life for free. Wow. Heart. Why? Because he has no chance.

There is absolutely zero chance that Derek Jeter will be the general manager of the New York Kings. He can't be a general manager. He doesn't know anything about being a general manager. He can be a community ambassador and eat popcorn in the front row with David Ortiz, but Derek Jeter actually running the business of the Yankees baseball operations department. There's a better chance that I will be the GM of the Yankees. I don't, David. I mean, that's we're being Derek at G2 really matters. He didn't really matter down here and he took your job.

I work for free. Is this binding? Is this binding? No, of course not because it's oral. I'm also, but in all seriousness, Mike, I hear what you're saying he's a great name in New York, but being the general manager is not about being a great name. It's the equivalent of hiring Isaiah Thomas to be your coach or president and thinking

that's going to help if you're in Detroit. That's actually probably about to happen to Phoenix. What's up, Juju? Speaking of you managing the New York Yankees, is picturing that, what's the most adorable thing you've done this week. Most of the drama thing is that my, uh, and it's whatever, a look at me, Louis, but my driveways being paved and it never been paved before. And I brought out a cooler of waters and candy because it's really hot here. And so I brought out a cooler of water and candy.

And it turns out that, uh, the workers had no interest in the candy but a lot of interest in the water. That's your gonna say it turns out the workers had like type two diabetes and you're offering the worst possible snack. The weirdest thing. Oh, candy. David, there's candies that were. What candy?

There's two things that I'm wondering. One is your movie review and two is how Chris Cody found a way to make it to a Yankee series while also posting videos of Nashville on his IG stuff. All right, maybe I was in Detroit. I got mixed up. I wasn't at the Yankee series, whatever. It sounded good though. You're review for the week, David.

There's a movie that just came out with Adam Brody and his real life wife, Latin Mr. Am I saying that name right? Yep. Had such a crush on her. She's been in a couple of good movies, so I get that. So they made this movie called River Wild. And throughout the movie, I'm looking and I'm saying,

I don't see Merrill Streep, I don't see Kevin Bacon, but it's about people rafting down a river with a bad guy. This has to be a remake of the River Wild. And I watched the movie. Look at that away, the exact same title. Except they're claiming it's not. They're claiming the people who made the movie. It's a reimagining.

They're on a river in a raft with a bad guy. What did they reimagine at all? The year they're in the future. Exactly. They re like Blade Runner, 2006. They reimagine a far less talented guest. Way less talented. A way worse movie. I liked the original The River Wild, which has to be pretty old. I don't know if you guys have seen that movie. It's probably 30 years old by now. But that was at least interesting and seen Kevin Bacon in that role. It was always

fascinating to me. But Adrian Brody as a bad guy Absolutely not not buying it and watching him act with his wife There was the script was terrible the story was terrible Adam the friend actually was decent Adam Brody Who's Adrian Brody? Yes Academy award winning from the pianist so I got got that wrong. Adam Brody, excuse me. So no, I would suggest to you if you're looking to watch a movie about people white water rafting and contemplating being killed, go to the original The River Wild, and I say that knowing that I don't like when people tell me to watch the original because sometimes

it's too old and it would bore me and the new movie can be better, but in this case, clearly not. Multiple reasons why it's called white water rafting in my right, Roy. That's not a race thing. I don't know. I mean, the water is actually white and the rampids are white. Yeah, but in terms of like the people that do it, I don't know. Gallery? Help me out here. Not me. Yeah. It's terms of like the people that do it, I don't know. Gallery help me out here.

Not me. Yeah. It's a two America's. I've done it one time and I won't do it again. David, thanks so much. Unless you had something else, I feel like you're about to say something. Did I cut you off? Did I ruin this? I told you, it's like, is Dominique there? Dominique is not. I wish. You think that I, Juju, okay. Whitewater Rattan is the name. It's not about white people or black people or Asian people, because rapids are white. I only see white people doing it. It's the observation that I was coming away with. I've done it, so.

That's not hoping. Not hoping. You see that? White woman. White, white, white, white. Lucy's, Lucy's white is all hell. I lived in Iowa willingly. White is all hell. I Want white white white Lucy's white is all hell I lived in Iowa willingly Lucy got so dope Lucy cool his hair. She got a good Jorren zone today salute to Lucy

Chaudon folks was going on. Oh, yeah, yes I couldn't help but notice that is he reign it back with the the miss picky I notice that is he ran it back with the uh... the miss picky uh... i worked with them jell-rogan nipples on his feet as with the right about it i'm not a favorite water rafting was in u-ganda ooo hotel do tell so just as a small f-y-i u-ganda's got a lot of white people on it there was not one white person on the raft but me mhm did they just call it water rafting over there?

No. I'm wondering if they probably just call it water rafting amongst themselves. I mean, look how far you had to go to do it without white people. Right. I happened to be there. Thank you for proving our point, David. We'll talk to you next week. Check out nothing personal with David.

See you. Don't live a tart again. Started on the breakfast one. Oh, man. I've been singing the song to myself all morning. See ya next week, check out nothing personal with the internet. See ya. Don Lebertard! You're getting started on the breakfast line? Oh man, I've been singing a song to myself one morning long. Breakfast, blonde, dun dun dun dun. Stoo gotch! You never heard the breakfast line song? No, him and me with it.

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in this local hour on everything in, on everything inner Miami and messy, because I happen to know that you watched last night's game while also at the movie theater watching Barbie. Wannam damn shoes. You know what, what those two are connected thank you for mentioning that you do and thank you for mentioning that Chris so I was supposed to go take my cup of tune my nephews and one of my nieces to see barbie and I'd already seen it but they hadn't seen it so I wanted to take them to see it again turns out my niece couldn't go so it's

just the three boys you know going to see bar see Barbie. Boys night. Yeah, boys night. I can't be boys night every night. But we went out and so it was a point in the movie or during the game or during the movie, I was just, oh no, it's messy versus sincere and I sort of grabbed my phone and it was fortunate enough that the sort of walls behind the chairs, I guess, or people can't see the row in front of you so I could comfortably have my phone down without bothering the people behind me.

So I threw the inter Miami game on Telemundo with captions and all trying to practice my Spanish and watch the second half in the theaters and then I sort of missed the equalizer because I was taking the kids from the card in my sister's house and then missed. But it was a heck of an experience. Like if you have those dining theaters,

like you could totally watch something on your phone the entire time. Just multitask. 100% multitask. Multiple screens. Where are you getting mocked? Because usually it's the kids that have the screen. Like, were you getting mocked by like the seven-year-old?

No. They were right over there. They were doing their own thing. And it was while I was watching the movie and while I was watching Ken proudly is when I decided I will not be shoe bullied by Jude Gugatti. And I'm wearing my my same what you call the Miss Piggy shoes but I decided to wear it with an outfit that it's more intended to be worn with so

that you could just see where the whole game is and you still don't like it. Yeah Miss Piggy calls those Miss Piggy shoes by the way but on that topic I have a shameful admission and I'm in the trust tree and I'm in the trust circle. Okay. I don in the trust tree. You know, I mean, the trust circle. Okay. I don't watch movie commercials. I don't watch trailers because of the deja vu snapper, if you will.

So I went to Oppenheimer. I saw Oppenheimer. And the entire time within the first hour of Oppenheimer, I thought he was a superhero. And I was like, why is see not, why is he getting, not people talking to him like that. Like, he was, I see some sound waves. I was like, oh, this is a great origin story.

And then I got like, I would have been, he was getting talked to by those people. Like Harry Truman's in the Super Bowl, the Super Hero movie is weird. That really led down. I'm gonna joke brother here. When Albert Einstein showed up, you weren't like, I was like, ooh, that must be Nick Fury.

I put it together for the rescue. Captain America. That's at no point throughout the pop culture conversations surrounding bourbonheimer and Oppenheimer in its own right Did you think you thought it was behind him? Yeah, you thought Christopher Nolan movie and superhero movie probably you saw the marketing of a dude in a suit walking in front of flames And you're like yeah, that's a superhero And that's a picky blinder walking in front of me. Oh, yeah

Sorry guys, that's all right. I like your hat by the way. Old Florida, Marlon's gear. Thank you, brother. There's like a popery of stills. I'm going to call them national stories with Miami ties because they're not necessarily just local stories. I'm going to let you guys pick one, which one you guys want to talk about. There's Tuah sort of standing up for himself against Ryan Clark.

There's Jimmy Butler running out with the ball kids at the US Open and there's the Marlins ace sort of throwing or beating up a I don't know what he beat up. Something in the bullpen there and they're still in the wild card race so that's why it's a national story. You guys pick which one we talk about. There's only one way we decide on topics around here. Is it a wheel? Yeah, so we're gonna break out the wheel. Go for it. Shoot your telescope and learn some. Two attack of Iowa. Wow, how'd you know it didn't even stop when you said it. So do we want to watch this video of two of what's he responding to here, Mike?

Because Ryan Clark said what that he hasn't been in the gym yet. Yeah, Ryan Clark and I think while on ESPN and they were running highlights of the game against a Texans, he said definitively, we know that he hasn't been in the gym, which if you're following Tua's progress this off season. It's like the opposite of what has been the case. Yeah, Tua's famously been going to the gym,

but I guess he doesn't have the stature that would make it seem that way, but Tua was asked about it and he had this to say. I mean, he probably knows more about me than I know about myself. I mean, I don't know. Ryan's been out the league for some time, so I don't know. It's a little weird when other people are talking about other people and they're not that person, so I know it's just a little weird when other people are talking about other people and they're not that person. So, I know it's just a little weird.

I come back, my background is, I come from a Samoan family, respect is everything, but it does get to a point where, hey, let it easy on that, buddy, because I think we're pretty tough-minded people and if we need to get scrappy, we can get scrappy too, just saying. How hard did you work in the UFC? I mean, I think we all worked hard throughout the UFC. And I'm not someone to talk about myself the entire time, but it takes a lot. You think I wanted to build all this muscle?

Like not. To some extent, I wanted to be a little lighter. There's, I know, there's a mixture of things that people don't understand, that people don't know about, that are talked about, that go behind the scenes. So, you know, I'd appreciate if you kept my name out your mouth. That's what I'd say. I'd appreciate for starters if the dolphins just get a far less hollow table so that every

time he puts his hand down, it is not a stomping. It sounds like there's some, you know, group of horses coming in from behind him. But that is the most tough guy talk we've ever gotten out of to a and easy on that buddy is the hardest of what he brought if what he offered. I mean, he gets strappy. Dude, the dismount of he by name, at your mouth, I've actually been paying close attention

to to his press conferences. And he's certainly a lot more comfortable with microphones around his face and when he was when he entered the league. He also gave a pretty thoughtful answer on being approached by Netflix for the quarterback series. He's maturing as a sports personality and given that he's got that it factor that the media likes to make him a sore and it's become polarizing.

It's good now that we have a personality to go along with this discussion. It's like we created, not we, the media created or fans created that personality because he has no choice but to be defensive. Yeah. Well, his entire career, I understand why he's been defensive about that and he's had a lot of adversity to face, Ryan Clark weighing in like that. And the original clip goes on, he compares his body to a woman's,

I think, at one point too. Oh, yeah. Like, it's, it was, it went pretty far for the position that Ryan Clark holds. Yeah, and it seemed like what he was saying is that Tua not was out of shape too thin, that Tua got thick, that he was saying he wasn't following

with the nutritionist insinuated that he should do this off. Those girls had on it. That's exactly what he said. Gentleman's clothes. Yeah. Gentleman's clothes reference.

Yeah, it was not the best look. The thing that's been interesting with Tuah is watching him grow into this confidence. Because remember when Tuah came out of college despite being the top pick, you know, and being one of those guys who was celebrated even at Alabama, like we all were looking at him as a shy guy coming out of the Saban tree of don't speak. And, you know, we saw his relationship with his parents

and he just seemed like the shy sort of sheltered kid. And so to watch him kind of being forced into this position, but to come out and be so confident in front of the media and being willing to sort of carry a bit of swagger the most that he can I mean, he still said like chill on that buddy Mm-hmm. Easy on that buddy. But I think this is sort of the personality

not just that he would want or that we created for him but that any quarterback of a team with Super Bowl aspirations has to have. I mean, I think you saw that with Jalen Hertz last year, even before the rest of us sort of granted him the status of, you know, one of the top quarterbacks in the league, he was saying that acting that way, projecting himself that way. And I think with Tuah, as, you know, the gentleman, the nice guy who doesn't actually do that, I think teammates probably want to see this. They probably want to see him fighting back and then getting physical and not being even

on the field ragged all around like he was last year. The staff wanted to see it too. And it harkens back to a conversation that we had with Mike McDaniel last year, where he said as much. He saw this diminutive character who didn't really have the support of the staff in place. And then Mike McDaniel shortly after being hired, he went to a charitable event that to his foundation was throwing. And he saw a completely different guy.

He saw a charismatic figure. He saw a leader amongst his contemporaries there. And he wondered aloud, how do I tap into this? How do I make you that guy all the time? So you can help lead this team because there's a difference in personality between the person that I'm seeing at this foundation event and who you are at this facility. And ever since Mike McDaniel has come along, yes, he's gotten older. He's had life events. He has a family now to it does. He's got his legs underneath him to a degree. He's already been chewed up by the mainstream news cycle.

You're seeing a young man mature in front of the cameras in front of the microphone and hopefully his game can continue mature and hopefully he can say healthy too because if he's gonna have that personality, I am not going to be as sick of the topic as I was at points last year. Yeah, I mean, I would argue that it helps that he is being more vocal for somebody like Tyree Kill because you don't want him to have to be the voice of this team. You don't want him to be targeted. Remember last year Tyree was a guy that was kind of prop

and too up. He's like, oh, he's that guy. We're like, what are you talking? What are you talking about? He's talking about hones. And the other thing that's interesting with the dolphins, and we can keep going because I think they are a national story. But there was reports that they're interested

in Jonathan Taylor. There was obviously the connection with Delvin Cook. There's a report out there that they asked about Josh Jacobs, who's not exactly happy in Las Vegas. And to me, that doesn't put more pressure on Tuha if they get a star running back because then they're effectively a super team. And the conversation remains the same. Hey, Tuha needs to stay healthy for this team to see its potential.

But if that does happen, if he does stay healthy, then there's no question. There's like 14 and three expectations there. And there's like absolute super bowl or conference championship expectation. But Jalen Ramsey injury is tough. It is a really tough blow. But the show is loaded on. I know what Xavier Howard is going through his stuff. There's some pretty bad accusations out there

revolving Xavier Howard. You don't know if he's going to be available to them later in the season, given the weight of these accusations, they, they, they've abs, if you've been paying attention, they've been looking to upgrade that backfield the entire off season and just want the price to be right. And now when you mention guys like Judge Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor, that is a, that is a pretty big mountain

of climb in terms of asking price and they're running out of assets. They don't have a third, they don't have a fourth. I think them having a white mic is, I mean, my white is very crucial. Don't, because my white is proving great backup. So I think he can move with a little more confidence this year. It's big in a backup.

Don't talk to me, I mean, look, this is not an insult to Raheem Mustard. But everybody who says, oh, he's good enough. Don't worry about that. Don't talk to me about that. They're not looking after Josh Jacobs. They're trying to make a trade for Jonathan Taylor if they're satisfied with Raheem Mustard. No, they have a position for Raheem Mustard and he will still have a role in the offense, but they want a bell cow. They want a top guy. White Mike goes water-rafting. Absolutely. Buy himself. No to a.

Okay.