The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Roy Missed The News

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

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Well, we're not on video, so you giving me a thumbs up there isn't really helpful. Oh, that's crazy. Live video, who knows around here. How is it that he doesn't know where he is still after all of these years doing this with us? Shadow Show in Greg's defense is a relatively new concept and I'm still not like fully dialed into it.

Yeah. You're messing with me with how far you have that mic down, right? Like that's just to troll me? Over the love of God? Like seriously. It's very low, Greg. We can't hear you.

It's closer to your crotch than it is to your mouth, Greg. It is. Okay, and then when it's too close, it's like, we hear you breathing. Okay, but- Quit breathing. Greg, these are problems no other professional broadcaster has. Just some notes.

When you're not talking, lean back slightly so your breathing doesn't get caught. And when you're gonna talk, sit up normal so you're into the mic. It's kinda not that difficult. Here's a helpful note. Stop picking on your dad. Everybody hates it. Thank you

God, isn't that the truth? All right, go on with the show. It's a show must go on as they say. Why did you say before the show? Mirror don't lie and then you said actually the mirror does lie. I believe that all the time It's everything's opposite. Yeah. Well, not only that, but the mirror is open to interpretation. Like, when I see myself in a mirror, I see myself differently than when I see my photo on TV or, you know, something else. Well, the reason this conversation started is because I was asking Greg what he he thought of angels caricature that uh... flips up there on the slot machine

and uh... he doesn't like it it's a little harsh it's all one color right it's all great it's a great for all of the pale all but it's just all of it is actually all all of the image is just covered in it. If he were to emerge from a volcano that had just erupted and was running for his safety, he would look that kind of ashy in his hair and on his face. Yes. Let's just refer to it as an unflattering caricature. But you said, originally, you said, mirror don't lie, because what you said to me was,

I guess I got to accept that I am now said, mirror don't lie because what you said to me was, ah, I guess I gotta accept that I am now gray. Mirror don't lie. And then you stopped and said, actually the mirror does lie. And I don't think the mirror lies. Put it on the poll at LeBretard Show, does your mirror lie? I'm with my dad on this.

You'll look at yourself in the mirror and you're like, all right, this is fine, this passes. And then you see yourself in a picture and you're like, what was I thinking? What did my mirror tell me? No, but the mirror, wait a minute, but the mirror is more accurate than the picture. fine, this passes. And then you see yourself in a picture and you're like, what was I thinking? What did my mirror tell me? No, but the mirror, wait a minute, but the mirror is more accurate than the picture.

You can take unflattering pictures. You can't take unflattering mirror. No, you can't because it's a scientific fact. You do appear better looking to yourself in the mirror because of the facial symmetry being reversed, the fact that you're subconsciously posing, you control the lighting. Yep.

When you look in the mirror, you're trying to look as best as you can. I put my tongue in my mouth so my face gets as thin as possible. There's some mirrors that lie though because you look at some mirrors and you're like, ooh, I look good. And then you look at other mirrors and you're like,

whoa, where does this guy come from? Not even the fun house mirrors, just a regular mirror. Sometimes the gym has some better mirrors. Is it the lighting, is it the angles? It is, it's all those things. They know how to make people feel good about themselves. It's part of the business plan. But then you see one of your house and you're like, damn. Have the mirror at the gym.

Where'd that come from? Like be a good mirror with good lighting. The mirrors at the gyms have filters on them now, like IG filters. So like when you go, you're like, ooh, OK. I think you can work out with those mirrors. They do like a workout too. I don't think you guys are accurate anyway.

I believe the mirror is an accurate representation of what you look like. More accurate things. No, I asked Chachie P.T. about the photographs. No, no of what you look like more I asked chat GPT about the photographs no no no I asked chat GPT it's like a human thing that happens in your brain when you look into a mirror it's a fact put it on the pole is it a fact Jack that it's like your thing I'm not a slave to that I don't have to say Jack every time I say Jack. It's your thing! Your line! It's your line! It's my line when I'm ready for it. We want to get the people to pop. You get the people to pop when you recite your own line.

That's doogie. That's what I call my grandfather pop. He's right about that, yeah. He has said that on multiple occasions. Thank you. I'm in reruns. Except the ones you need to remember. Those you get wrong. How is it that you get your signature lines wrong? Because I'm not a slave to them You know there are you say they're on my terms. Please stop saying that phrase

You don't as I'm up in the rafters again today You're the one who is lifting them up into the rafters. I'm the one who, I just put ropes under his armpits for the visual of him rising into the rafters. Glad we're back here. Let's start the show. This is the Don Leventor affiliated with the only good thing that we have in South Florida sports at the moment. I guess I should say Inter Miami is also excellent but among the major sports that we cover here, the top four. Roy has the hockey team and he was out at Panthers practice

and Brad Marchand spoke glowingly of both the Bruins and the Panthers yesterday, but right under his nose, he missed the Ekblad suspension of 20 games and he didn't do any good reporting. He gave us atmosphere from an empty arena but soon Soon after he left the arena we learned that Echblad was suspended for 20 games and Your reaction Roy was what to both this news and being beaten on this news

Well, first of all, it was about six hours after we left this news. Well you could have broken it early. You could have hung around. I could have hung around for six extra hours. I don't think anyone actually broke this story. It was announced by the league and the NHLPA. I understand. What's the cover up then? Roy was there. It's not really the cover up. It's more just missing the news. Just being there to gather news and then missing the news. Well yes. Okay. I missed the news. Yeah, thank you for pointing that out. There were no rumblings? No, no, no rumblings.

Did you see Aaron walking out with like a cardboard box full of his, you know, personal effects? I don't think he was fired, Billy. Well, no, for two weeks, though, he can't be there. That is correct. No, no, I did not see a cardboard box of any of his belongings in it. No, no. You also missed on reporting the Miko Reintan in trade

to Dallas, so apologize. Me? I gotta apologize? You're missing scoops left and right. We uh, we do that well here at MetalArk Media. I will have you know that yesterday, Taylor, and I'm in agreement with that uh, listener at Flanagan's who said Les Taylor on the show. It was one guy. Taylor reported yesterday because he's our North Carolina expert and no one has more Mac Holland's information nationally than Taylor does. He reported

yesterday on X, Mac Holland's to the Patriots and he had a typo in the tweet and when he took it down to edit it, someone else reported it. Oh man. Oh my God. That's the news game. How do you get beat to a story that you typo? No, but that's how we do it around here.

Some people might ask, how do you get beat when you're standing on the ice and Aaron Echblad is packing up his stuff, but you got beat on that story. How bad was the typo? I didn't see it. Like, did he need to take it down? Did you get the context of the tweet with the typo?

Like, he should have just left it up, right? The thing is, he's the nation's foremost expert on Mac Holland, so any time that Taylor tweets something out, it's gotta be right, because obviously he's the number one guy for Mac Holland's news. When you send out the tweet and it says DTH instead of THE, it's like, I don't know. Yeah, I do that all the time. I have to take down tweets and redo them.

It's tough not to make an error. Mac Collins, I think number 57 on the Greg Cody show, all time list of all time guests. So is Eklat, number 85. All my guys are moving you know they're being traded there uh... being busted for dope i mean all kind of things are happening okay well what is uh... i i saw bob dole i saw bobby portis got twenty five games when you get these bigger suspensions that's always we're always assuming in an eclad case i guess

we now understand how his play improved right right? I mean, you guys hated him for a while, and then for the last nine months or so, you guys have been fine with him. Something happened. Well, the funny thing is, the last person who got busted for PEDs and suspended for 20 games was Nate Smith, when he was at Vegas. He's a Panther now. I wish that Echblad or any athlete suspended for PEDs would just instantly own up to it instead of implying, oh, inadvertently, you know, I took a medicine, I didn't know this.

Eklad, he's 29 years old, okay, he hears the career clock ticking a little bit, no longer the best defenseman on his team, and he wanted to get a little bit of an edge. It's human nature. It's illegal, but it's human nature. Kind of crept back into the discussion of being the best defenseman on his team. More than Forsling? He had a really good season, really great bounce back.

When he was out for a brief period of time this season, the Panthers form had dipped. He came back, they were off to the races. I hate to say this, but this is like one of those baseball suspensions where a guy has a crazy year and you're like, that makes sense. When I saw the Echlad News I'm like, that kind of makes sense. He's bounced all the way back this year. I do wonder when they made the deal a couple

of weeks ago for Seth Jones, did they have an inkling that this might be coming? Well this is why Roy should have broken it six hours early because I doubt that all of this news came down in those six hours after he left the ice. Mike, when you say off to the races, I know that the expression, what it means, but why are people off to the races? Like, what is it that makes people go off to the races?

And Tony, I saw you checking your phone. Do you have any breaking news? I've got an update on the Taylor situation. He said he had two typos, posted, deleted, posted again, deleted again. Mike Garofalo posted. Then I post. That's just on him. You need to look in the mirrors. Problem was I went for a two year deal to try to add the money involved. And that's how I got the, the mix up on the typos 19th century horse racing. I was gonna say Diablo took off. That's where I know the thing comes all of a sudden it's like, we're off to the races.

This guy's gone. Can't you just edit a tweet in the first like hour? Like what's he doing there? If you're subscribed to premium. I can. Let me ask you guys the question about Echblad and just suspensions in general, because I wanna play this sound

from an unreliable messenger. It's old sound, but it didn't get any traction. None. And Chael Sonnen, because he's a, you know, a professional troll, but he's also been someone who has broken news. Chael Sonnen said this of LeBron James flatly. If the world understood what LeBron did, like other basketball players will hear what LeBron does and go, well, yeah, but that doesn't matter, right? It's like a baseball player, you're hitting a stick out of the way, it doesn't matter. It's like, no, no, no,

if you knew what these performance answers did, then you would know why it does matter. You know, there's only one, we have the same drug guy, if you will, I know exactly what he's doing, but there's only one golfer. Please tell. There's only one golfer, I'm not going to, but there's only one golfer that follows the

big three. The big three is EPO, growth hormone testosterone. That's the Lance Armstrong diet. There's one golfer, but it's Tiger Woods. Like, yes, it does matter. People say it all the time, but it doesn't matter. John Daly, one of these, it matters. Trust me that it matters.

EPO matters, it's the reason LeBron takes it. It matters. And if other basketballs understood what it did, EPO increases your red blood cells, which gives you endurance so you can play all game long. You can shoot in the fourth quarter just like you shot the fourth minute. More oxygen in your red blood cells. Okay, gotcha. It's the king of performance enhancers. So you would prefer that, especially in a fight sport, to anything else? EPO is king. To everything.

Because it's going to give you the stamina. Yes. That's why cyclists do it. That's why cyclists do it. Tour de France is. So that fifth round energy is more important. The human body is not made to do the Tour de France. I mean, the people that set that up are inhumane.

So of course you have to go. Of course it's supernatural people. They're forcing them to take. Uh, what sound is that? What is he doing? Chael Sonnen, for those of you who do not know, produced for five rounds one of the most stunning things I've seen while on Performance Enhancers is he totally dominated the best pound for pound fighter in the world in Anderson Silva at the time and then lost at the end because he slipped up but had him dominated my question to you is when chaels on and says something like that if right now the news came down that the oldest player in the nba

who's still doing things that are completely unprecedented for his age if the news came down he was using h g h would anyone be surprised by that? The small domino is Aaron Echblad testing positive and getting a 20 game suspension that leads to a Chael Sonnen clip that's old and the big domino is let's just use this to invoke LeBron's name. I don't like this one bit. I was going to do it yesterday with Moe Vaughn's Hh admission but instead i decided to do it today because i have a lot of judges let's go back to curtain we know what we're doing here i want to ask the

question because i'm amazed at what's happened in sports when it comes to this stuff we were all naive with maguire and sosa maguire and sosa had it in their lockers and it was a totally common thing and we were naive at the time. And I'm asking legitimately, who would surprise you now and what would be your reaction to specifically the one guy doing things that have never been done before because I would be not only unsurprised, I also wouldn't blame him and furthermore if I were him I would dare the league to punish me I would dare the league to find out and try to do that to me so that they eradicate my records. It feels like if we want to get

conspiratorial the league has been turning a blind eye to people at that level taking things for a very long time like what we're just surprised that Lebron is at 40 years old now creeping back into the MVP race at 40 because he's had an incredible season all of a sudden? Yeah but what does that mean though I mean retroactively are we now suspicious about Tom Brady's longevity and success? Kind of. I don't throw any shade on LeBron James based on something an ex UFC fighter says I think he's built up too much credibility to assume that just because he's still great at 40, that he's on

performance advances. I'm asking a career newspaper man to just for a moment take a look at results that have no precedent and have some questions about it as opposed to Simply accepting at face value something in sports that can no longer be accepted at face value So he's the only one doing it though I'm not saying that but that means if a lot of people are also doing it He's still the best that in turn levels the playing field if the greatest ever at their sport Tom Brady Arguably LeBron James are doing these things and getting away with it, you got to assume everybody is. The same thing like the 90s in baseball and that

doesn't mitigate his greatness. It may explain some things that are hard to explain, which is why are we seeing this guy do it at 40? It was a question that we asked about Tom Brady and we just assumed everybody else would and turns out no, no one else could. Tom Brady was the greatest ever. Peyton Manning was also you know there's a lot of cloudiness a lot of things around the Al Jazeera report of Peyton Manning getting stuff for his neck maybe he was taking things before that like his wife his wife his wife sorry I'm sorry sorry sorry you got to get that right sorry yeah allegedly typo.

To answer your question would I be surprised if all of a sudden it came out that that LeBron James has used HGH? No. Just as I was not surprised late afternoon yesterday when my wife said hey did you hear about Aaron Echblad? It isn't a shock when any professional athlete to me tries to get better or tries to get healthier sooner by using medicinal means. It's against the rules. Maybe it shouldn't be against the rules. I don't know, but it doesn't surprise me. The only thing that I don't like is to assume that Chael Sonnen is right and to assume that LeBron James is not quite the angel

that we've known for two decades. I wanna stop you for a second though because I do think it's possible for something to be completely unsurprising and still shocking. If that news came down right now, you're not going to tell me that you'd be like, ah, ah, like you'd have a reaction to it and it wouldn't be a re- like you would feel lied to in some way. I don't know how emotional you would be or how much we've changed this over the last

20 years, but you would not be indifferent about that news. We would be engulfed by that news if that were so. I'll entertain your gambit. I think for me the shock would be, man, they actually did it. They caught him and they decided to put out a press release and announce this to the face of the game. Like, I would be shocked at that. I'd be more shocked at that than learning

that a top athlete is doing whatever he can to stay at the top. You know what's funny about you saying that is that I would indeed be shocked if the league actually did that, but I would also be shocked if the league consciously and actively covered it up. If you showed me some sort of chain that revealed to me how it is that that got covered up by a league protecting its interests and declining to protect its integrity, if you showed me all of that and showed me knowledge of it, I would find that to be shocking as well. Like, I understand that we're sitting here saying these

things in the hypothetical, but now put it on Adam Silver's desk and have him make the decision that that overtly protects something that is against the rules. That seems kind of crazy. Even if we're now used to corruption in all facets of the space where we're watching things. You think there's a paper trail on this that's getting to Adam Silver's desk

and the person that takes it in is still alive. It is, let me just say, it is extra reckless to be, I know Chael says he shares the doctor, but half the time he's in character. Like he's not, it's not the best source okay but I remember the first time that I noticed feel-good being swept up by conspiracy theories and cynicism it's when Cal Ripken jr. hit a home run in the all-star game and it was such a perfect moment that immediately was it Hideo Nomo

somebody assumed that the pitch Nomo somebody assumed that the pitch had many people assumed that the pitch had Chan O Park grooved it it got grooved and more importantly the pitch got grooved I think that you did this yourself five dollar you did this to. I tried to stop you. Tried to stop you with jail. Not great, not great enough. I originally, I hope Chris is right by the way. Yeah. I checked that one, man.

No, it's even worse than that. It is even worse than that. You said, you said Chan Ho Park, and I had in my head that Chan Ho Park for some reason was a first baseman that was Hisop Choi. So it's even worse. They were both Dodgers. Thank you. Yes, not a good defense. Actually all three of them were. Hisop a little chubby too. Again though I will say to you guys that that was the first time that I'm like, can we not have good things that we believe in in sports that we're going to immediately

arrive 25 years ago or more than that in a place where we're going to take Cal Ripken juniors as if it's not hard to hit them run in an all-star game and we're going to immediately apply cynicism. So you didn't like how that made you feel and then 20 years later we're lifting up Chael Sonnen like it's cool watching this phase of LeBron's career and those questions and whispers, social media conjecture and innuendo that's been around LeBron forever for literally like at least 15 years of his career, people have been wondering what's that little break that he's taking in the middle of the season?

This is stuff that people say all the time. Again though, I simply say to you, as we're watching all of these things that have no human precedent on where the limits of the human body have been. I, this is not a player. I go look at Michael Jordan's number and his percentages, his numbers when he was 37 years old. No doubt. And I get it. And I feel like we have this conversation every time an aging quarterback hits the market. We were watching two guys do it and they just so happen to be the

best ever. Like that's why they're doing it, maybe. I understand we're trying to rationalize what we're seeing. With Brady, it flatly doesn't make sense because look at his body. With LeBron, we're doing like, wow, he's chiseled out of granite. I get it. With Brady, pliability and avocado tequila?

Strawberries and strawberries. The thing that I'm doing though with you guys I understand okay that The playground is this utopian space for us where we do dreamy childhood things, but everywhere else in America Facts are being questioned Everywhere things that have conspiracy theories are growing power everywhere. But not here? But not here. No, no, yes, here. No, not here, because this isn't a conversation that's actually happening anywhere.

And I want to preface all of this, even though I'm already deep in the weeds on it. I want to preface all of it by saying that I lost my baseball Hall of Fame vote because I am not judgmental about these people using science and advantages to try and beat all the other people who are using science and the advantages that all of us would love to have a fountain of youth and I get everything I'm not judging it I'm wondering that the reaction seems to be around this to just simply accept Yes, something I've never seen before I believe that to be pure and we're not doing that with anything else any other subject matter in America But is it fair to like maybe not reserve that for the goats?

Messi's playing great in older age too And he actually had to be on human growth hormone when he was younger because of how he was born like I think we're conflating all-time greatness when I'd list those three names they might be on the Mount Rushmore of all-time greats in athleticism for for conversation that might be reserved for journeymen trying to hang on because those are the guys that get pinched most of the time for this kind of stuff. But isn't the thing to do it as the number one guy knowing that you're the face of the league knowing that adam silver Would have to crater the entire league to make sure that you don't get put on one of these lists Dan lebron james is more protected than the united president united states. I want you to know that okay

I think that can't be true. I think so. I don't think that's accurate I think he's more protected He's more protected from PR from all these different angles than the president. Although the last president was accused of PEDs He had to the idea man The idea that anybody would be using human growth hormone to feel better is something that I would understand And say yes If your body is in pain Go ahead and do whatever it is that you have to do the only arguments

I've ever heard against human growth hormone are if you have some sort of undetected tumor in your body It will speed up its growth if you do human growth hormone fact I will tell you because South Florida because South Florida has been some you because South Florida, because South Florida has been something of a pioneer in this regard where A-Rod and Manny Ramirez and a whole bunch of lawlessness took place in a way that was sloppy, I will tell you that about 10 years ago a urologist suggested, I remember I went to this, I went with my brother and I was ready to do something that actually was inserted in your body that released human growth hormone monthly when it was supposed to. And the last thing the doctor told me as I was leaving is what I said, which is if it's

got an undetected, if you have an undetected tumor, I'm because I'm like, what are the side effects? Like how, how is this something that you're telling me I could just come in here and feel much better? I'm not, I'm going to hurt less. I'm going to have more energy. Like how is this something that you're telling me I could just come in here and feel much better? I'm going to hurt less, I'm going to have more energy, I'm going to be happier about life and it's got no side effects. That side effect is not generally a concern for young people.

That's not an absolute, but that's not something that if you're in your athletic prime necessarily undetected tumors, but I was in my 40s when it is that I was looking into doing this and I did a lot of research on it. And I totally understand why any athlete would protect the $50 million a year late in their career that wouldn't be available to them because these careers used to always end at 37 years old. Like, there's no such thing as what Tarassi did, what Ovechkin is doing, what Tom Brady did. And yes, you're talking about all-time greats keeping their level from falling more precipitously,

which is generally how it drops at 37. I'm simply more interested in why it is that we choose this particular naivete when you're presented with something that by three years has no precedent. Because even Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, what he was doing late in his 30s was all just skyhooks and you can see all of the ways that he's aged numerically. You can't see it in LeBron's numbers. It's not anywhere to be found except on his defense.

You know, you mentioned Ovechkin and it does get the brain to wander a little bit because he did drop off for a little bit. But also this is the first off season I can ever remember where he was like photographed working out and running and playing pickleball to kind of stay in shape and he doesn't have this great body and he's aged like he's partied. Howdy folks, it's Mike Ryan, one to responsibly speak to you about my favorite time, Miller Time.

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Yeah, but you're not today. I think that was what he was adding Response I got from this guy what I said was amazing. I got cheaters never prosper this guy yelled as angry as he could This is the done libertar show with a stooge ads We're back with the The The The The The

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where a little dad belly all of a sudden. A little belly, that's what I'm talking about. I'm sure he's super excited that his friend put this out. This is the big domino. He looks great. Fat shaming, Dan fat shaming Tua is now the big domino. I was not doing it.

You're just asking us if we'd like to know. The internet is definitely doing it and I don't agree with it. The internet is doing it. You're just asking us if we'd like to know. The internet is definitely doing it and I don't agree with it. The internet is doing it. I'm not here, I am not here for fat shaming others. I have been something of a pioneer in terms of allowing fat shaming of me. Your picture is Mark Mangino I think still, right?

That's true. I see a guy that's enjoying his off season. Nothing wrong with this. Number one, no glass on the boat. Party foul, pour that into a glass and also it'll help you with bloating Have you never seen bar rescue? Can you guys get for me, please the sound of Brad Marshawn talking yesterday both about the Panthers and the Bruins I'd like to get to it in a second But before I do that I want to make a shameful admission here that

Was very different than the rest of you on what was your Visceral reaction to the headline yesterday When I saw the headline Dolphin sign Wilson at quarterback legitimately. I'm like who the hell's Wilson? I had totally forgotten about the entirety of Zach Wilson Like I'd forgotten where he was what he was, that he was bad with the Jets, that he was still available, that anybody would want him. Like when I saw Wilson in the headline,

I'm legitimately, it took me five seconds to be like, who the hell's Wilson? It just- You didn't think it was Russell, maybe? I did. I did. I hoped it was Russell. Now that would have been a good signing.

No. Yes. I'll take Zach Wilson over Russell Wilson. Oh, Zach, what a bad team. What are you doing? More upside. We know what Russell Wilson is. Zach Wilson is just like a guy.

A Super Bowl winner? Hold on a second. What? I mean, I think somehow the Jets still though, when they're paying fields $20 million, you're still lost yesterday, right? Like that's crazy. I mean, Zach Wilson is getting six times

what Russell Wilson got last year. So you guys can laugh at me all you want. He's not really though. Like he got paid by the Steelers a million, Zach Wilson is getting six times what Russell Wilson got last year. So you guys can laugh at me all you want. He's not really though. Like, he got paid by the Steers a million, but he's getting paid by like 30 by like the Broncos. That's true, but I'm, dude, what is Russell Wilson doing this offseason? Where's he ending up?

I don't, I just think there's unknown with Zach Wilson. We kind of know what Russell Wilson is at this point. Well, the Dolphins needed a proven veteran backup quarterback behind Tua, Zach Wilson ain't that guy. He's a draft bust. That's true he's not proven I'm not arguing he's proven. He's played three seasons and he's got more interceptions than touchdowns. It's a top five quarterback skill set. Those are those measurables are still the same. Greg if I can by the way we thought the same thing about Sam Darnold and now he just signed a hundred million dollar contract

Right, it's where you get plugged in who you get plugged in with all the sudden Zack Wilson starts looking really good in a system With Mike McDaniel now and then two years from now, you know, somebody signs him to a 60 70 million That was a top five quarterback in the XFL. Maybe I love that You just act like you know that he couldn't be good in another system No, it's not that I know. It's that the Jets knew and that the Broncos knew and now the Dolphins will find out. Yeah I mean if you're trying to flatter a dubious free agent signing that's the thing to say well what about other quarterbacks who we wrote off three years into their career and they bloomed and they

turned out great. Yeah if you want to believe that go ahead. Well the Dolphins believe it. Of course they do. They also got them cheap. Well they're paying him like they believe it. It's six million dollars would take couldn't be ten million dollars They're paying like they believe they can make him that they're paying like they realize they need a backup plan in case two It gets concussed again, which is what Zach Wilson is and he he's a better option than Skyler Thompson, right? But like yeah, he's worse option than Russell Wilson if the two of them. Like if I had Russell Wilson and Zach Wilson, I would take Russell Wilson. And they also signed Zach Wilson to a one-year contract, which isn't believing that this is a guy who might actually be your quarterback if two of Peter's out with his health.

It's them signing a backup. And Chris, to your point, like we know what Russell Wilson is. Yeah. I know that Russell Wilson is better than Zach Wilson. Right. I think there's more upside with Zach. Look, I want two to stay healthy. I don't want Zach Wilson to play. I'm just looking at the landscape of all these backup quarterbacks,

and it's better than Skyler Thompson. He's got the top five talent. I think, you can say all you want about, you know he can't be anything. I guarantee you Mike McDaniel sees Zach Wilson as like in my system. This guy, I can work with him. I just generally dismiss because like he's got high upside is something that people say about bust first round picks

all the time. It's something that people maintain till Brock Osweiler left the league. Occasionally you'll catch the Sam Darnold and you'll catch the Baker Mayfield and maybe it'll work out, but most of the time it's a sad story and it's Brock Oswiler. I'm also kind of souring on Mike McDaniel.

Like Mike McDaniel thinks he can fix it. Mike McDaniel's such a genius. How about you fix the problems that you have with the people you have and stop getting these pet projects just in case? Like Mike McDaniel, if we're being honest, is kind of on the hot seat. All right, let's talk for a second about both Sam Darnold

and getting tired of coaches and what it is that they have to say because how tiring are these Spolster press conferences now when you see them lose to Charlotte and Chicago at home and he's saying all the things about grinding and grinding and face your demons and we're going to get out of this. When the numbers, eight of their last nine losses, they've blown a fourth quarter lead. They've got 15 blown double digit leads this season. Only Utah has more. They have real problems late in games

because their offense is terrible late in games. And I mentioned to you guys how bad Utah is late in games. That game I saw where they had the ball with 20 in a tie game with 26 seconds left They're bringing it up court and they get a half court violation because they don't get it up in time Because they're just terrible the idea that they're with Utah in blown leads and is Portland now better than they are does Portland now have a better record Than the Miami Heat because the Miami Heat are supposed to be going through the soft part of their home schedule and are losing games and the Spolstra talk like this this roster is bad compared to what we're used to.

It's not lose to Chicago and Charlotte at home bad. It's not that bad. Heater one game up on the wind column from the Portland Trail Blazers Have they reached the point where you don't want to lead you just you just like don't want to build a come back You just want to go back. Did you leave? That's the rule? It's a it's a tough time for Spoda have his worst coaching season ever Because it times out with maybe Pat Riley's worst season as an executive ever so it's vibes are bad I'll tell you where it started the game against the Pistons Dan You said that he would wake up ten years from now in a cold sweat thinking about that time-out call and all the sudden That's the little domino and what's the big domino gonna? I think that little domino was telling Jimmy Butler to shut up

40 years from now not ten years from now 40 years from now the Golden State Warriors are 12 and 1 now with Jimmy Butler They have lost one one back. That's been really good though. Let's be honest for the with Jimmy Butler. They have lost one basket ball game. Steph's been playing really good though, let's be honest. For the record, Jimmy Butler wanted to go to Phoenix. Yeah. And they suck. That was the only team he wanted to go to. Let's play some of this Brad Marshon sound

to get a bit of a palate cleanser. Let's get some sorbet in with this meal. This is sorbet. This is just two minutes of him talking about how good the Panthers are. It's extremely exciting to be part of such an incredible group. And when I walked into the room the other day, I had I literally had flashbacks to back in the year that we won and some of the groups that we've had over the year that I looked at as

as an incredible chemistry and incredible culture. And when you walk in here and you see the way the guys interact and the relationships that they have, not just within the room as players, but their staff and their coaches and management. It shows why they've been the pillar in the league the last few years. So I'm extremely excited to be part of the group and really looking forward to getting back on the ice and becoming part of the group here. They've bounced us the last couple of years in the playoffs, they've bounced the Bruins

the last couple of years. It has been pretty remarkable to see the growth they've had as a group the last few years. And I think throughout the year here this year, we've played the team multiple times and I remember just thinking like that's, that's the team to beat this year. I just I thought the way that they came at you in waves all game long, just the depth that they had in their group. The way I mean they have The experience they know what it takes when they get you know get in those tough situations and that's invaluable

They didn't lose many guys and and the guys that they did replace them with their great players So yeah, I just I looked at the group and I was like that that that's the team that has the ability to go all the way again. And, you know, when you match the drive with the experience and the depth of the group, it's a very dangerous combination. So I was, that was, you know, when things were kind of coming up and kind of writing was on the wall, this is absolutely the place I wanted to go. Oh, I love that. Guys, so update me really quick. Um, kind of writing was on the wall. This is absolutely the place I wanted to go.

Oh, I love that guys. So update me really quick. Obviously I was locked in on the Panthers this past run, but so this guy is a guy from the Bruins, correct? That everybody hated. Mike called him a rat bastard. I think. You would. Okay. You would. So now he's a Florida Panther. And now he's talking about how much he loves the Florida Panthers, even though back like two weeks ago He hated the Panthers and everybody on the USA team because of the Canadian USA thing the part that you're not understanding Is that when rat bastard becomes cat bastard all of a sudden Roy and Chris and Mike are doing what Chris was doing Which is Greg house how?

Embarrassed are you that your son spent that entire time rubbing his nipples with his hands until they chafe? Yeah, I noticed that. Journalist Chris Cody, he's a fan, he's a season ticket holder. I mean, I expect that from Christopher. But as someone who's not a season ticket holder and doesn't cheerlead for the team, I love the signing. I mean, they got him for next to nothing, potentially a second round pick

and you know for the stretch run to have him as your second line or whatever, I think it's a wonderful deal. Bill Zito continues to amaze with some of the things he's doing. He had a great team, wasn't satisfied, made it even better. Paul Maurice is one of the all-time great coaches. I mean they're just state-of-the-art right now in the NHL and have been for the past three seasons Tony What you're missing is also this is a this is what we call a sleight of hand You know what I mean like look over here. We got this guy big breaking news. Is this gonna work out? He hates the Panthers. They hate him now. He's a Panther, he's an ice cat. Let's make sure to fly him down here so we can do this press conference. And then later in the day, you're gonna find out

that one of our players is taking steroids and has been suspended 20 games. But don't look at that, look over here. Look at the big signing, and now we're gonna fly him right back to Boston for the next game where he was a minute ago. That's what they're doing here, slide a hand. Turns out, Chris, cheaters do prosper.

Lord Stanley, he is cheatin'! Ekblad played very well. I won't remind anyone that the 2003 Marlins won a World Series with a ball that Pudge was able to hold on to at the plate because he was 40 pounds heavier than he was the next offseason. Thank you for not doing that. Miami Cooking, yeah. Glad you didn't do that. I'm not there. Exactly right. I'm glad you didn't do that. Yeah. I'm not there with this guy. I don't like it one bit. Oh, my Lord.

We invited Toxic Vibes and look, immediately the universe says, Echblad suspended 20 games. This is what you invited in when you bring Brad Marshon in a locker room. That was fine without him. Also, why do we have to do him this favor? Why? Because he's injured. No, no, let him toil away in Boston. Let him be someone else's problem.

He's trying to come over here and hitch his wagon to an absolute force in the sport that is by all indications handicapped to be the favorite in their conference. I don't like this for Brad Marshawn. I don't want him to experience happiness. Would you like to see him cry? Would you like to see him cry? Would you like to see him cry? I'm telling you, I want to see the Florida Panthers win. If Brad Marshawn lifts a cup and does that fine,

I won't clap or anything like that, but I'm unhappy that he gets to have that joy. But would you like to see him cry? Would you like to actually watch a former Boston Bruin legend cry? I've seen him cry plenty. I've seen him cry plenty. That guy's a loser.

Mike, that clip right there where I was rubbing my nipples is him just for two minutes being like I have looked at this team in All for two like but that's kicked her ass. That's running But we win there Victory I get it. It's the only silver lining is ripping him away from Boston putting him specifically on this team I've seen so many reaction videos of Bruins fans Now I can chirp Saracivian. They're they're torn up about it. I guess that's a silver lining But for me, I'm good healthy scratch. What happens if like he plays tonight, right? It's tonight. He's not playing he's injured He's out. Okay. Well, never mind then why are we acting all surprised that a player traded to a team would speak? Glowingly of that new team. This is what traded players do

I mean he's but he doesn't have to like give like he wanted to be only here and He had a good relationship with the Bruins. So they made it happen for him, right? Well, if you're gonna be traded you want to go to the defending Stanley Cup champion that might win again No, duh. I mean they're no-brainer on that one, Brad Marchand, he made a good career decision. Do you guys realize that it is fundamentally impossible to surprise the old savvy veteran here with anything we discuss or any thought that you have? He is completely unsurprised by all things that happen.

Hold on a second. While everyone's jumping down my throat about him being injured, when Roy was at the Panthers camp yesterday not reporting on the steroid suspension, he reported that Brad Marchand was gonna be on this road trip traveling about him being injured when Roy was at the Panthers camp yesterday not reporting on the steroid suspension he Reported that broad Marshawn was gonna be on this road trip traveling and he might be good and suit up for the game No, I said he might take some ice Recovery morning skate type stuff. Yeah, he's injured. I said he was injured yesterday get out there tough guy. Geez again though Mike Ryan

Would you like to see Brad Marshawn cry? Just say yes. Of happiness or sadness? So I could just play the video. Call the rap bastards. Just say yes so I could play the video. I never called him a rap bastard. Yes, I would. Stop putting those words in my mouth. However, if I did say that, I stand by it.

Let's hear Brad Marshawn get emotional. You know, I've had an incredible run in that organization and I'm extremely proud. Just how things went there. Sorry. So yeah, it was very disappointing that things didn't get done just because obviously I love the organization. I wanted to stay there but at the end of the day I also know that business is business and every player is a shelf life. Crocodile tears. I think I actually enjoyed that.