The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Show Me Your Papers

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Mike campaigns to remove Roy's right to vote, and Dan immediately loses to his nemesis, Charlie. Today's cast: Dan, Domonique, Roy, Charlie, Chris, Jeremy, and Mike. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What a delight and blessing to see the growth of our crew here. Roy in the EP chair, clean shaven, brave bravado in the middle of the playoffs. The hockey playoffs, we've got a clean shaven Roy looking 15 years younger. 15? I don't understand what you're doing. The hockey playoffs are about growing a beard. You are the cleanest shaven I've ever seen you. And behind you is a very crowded row of people. Chris Cody likes that back row, likes the space in that back row. Mike Ryan likes that back row. Jeremy gets stuck in a corner in that back row

when Chris and Mike are moving and shaking and feeling themselves. And then here to poison it all, Charlie. Why is Charlie here? This is my god. I'm coming for all the stuff, Dan. Whoa! Get his ass!

Oh, shit. First words! Woo! That producer, in that shipping container, in that city, he's a gladiator behind the mic. Why is Charlie here? This is my dog, man. This is my guy.

What is that? I don't understand. I have the crew that I need to do the show today. I've got Mike, I've got Chris, I've got Roy, I've got Jeremy. That's a sweet spot. Billy's working on vacation. Billy will come back, but this is a sweet spot. He's working on vacation on God Bless Football because it's going to be a monster as soon as the football season starts. But there's Charlie in Billy's seat, no less. In Billy's seat, which I don't think he has proper respect for.

Do you think he has proper respect for what that seat is? Mike? You're supposed to respect the seat. Billy doesn't respect the seat. That's his whole deal. He's sitting next to you, very comfortable in our show when we don't need to hear from him today. You got your ass, just take the L.

Don't be lashing back out, come up with a bar of your own. He did get your ass. Damn. I lost to Charlie? Yeah, yeah, he got you from the start. Roy, what are you doing? What? You're clean-shaven in the middle of the Stanley Cup final.

It's the time that you grow out the beard. The Panthers are leading. Historically, when they're in the playoffs in this spot, they go up 3-1. You're tempting fate, pal. No, man. No, man. Listen, last season, I had, well, I didn't have a full beard

because I can't grow a beard. I had facial hair, and then they lost three in a row. Yeah, but they won the Stanley Cup. So you'd never shaved, and they won their first cup in franchise history and in the middle of the series against two of the best players in the world, you decided, we won 6-1, that'll do, Beard, that'll do. We're gonna go clean shaven. I mean, I think the problem is people wait until things go wrong to make a change. And if you remember last year, I believe during the Stanley Cup final, Greg Cody and Dan Leventhal did things that people considered jinxes.

You know what happened? Game seven. Give me that. So Roy is just trying again. You know what happened? Almost an unprecedented comeback. The biggest comeback in the history of finals. This is worse.

You had a ball. You had so much fun and you got the cup. So Roy's just making sure. I had fun during the cup final. Our behavior last year is one of the great acts of cowardice in the history of sports media. Start the show so we can see the face of Roy, please. This is the Don LeVittor Show with the Stoarts podcast. It is strange judgment, Roy, that you would go clean shaven right toward the end of the

hockey playoffs when like traditionally hockey beards, it's a strange choice. Were you thinking about it when you pulled out the razor? Like you are a now veteran member of the hockey writers association rookie year questions, okay questions right so Just earlier this week Roy said casually you you informed us that you were a voting Journalistic member of the hockey writers. That's correct. Yes. I voted for the Mastaton award for dedication to hockey. And no one asked a follow-up question until Mike came in today in an interrogative style and had a few questions about what you had written to become a writer. I did write a op-ed during the Four Nations tournament

as a political in nature so that's my one piece. All right, so that's a one piece for the hockey news. So naturally you became a member of the Pro Writers Association after you wrote. No, I was invited into the association prior to the season by the ranking chair of the region down here in Florida. Right, okay, cool. But you weren't a writer.

Correct, I was not a writer. No, I'm a media member, just like Elliot Friedman is a media member. Right, but no, he writes. I'm familiar with his game. He's written. You've... Alright, help me out here. Help you out here? Yeah, so they're just like... Writers' Associations across sports, generally speaking, Dan, reserved for writers, right? Well, he wrote his own. I know, and if he wrote before, I wouldn't have any more questions.

I would say they have a draft before you become a professional athlete. So that's essentially what happened. They were like, hey, we know this guy, lot of potential, come on, know this guy. Lot of potential. Come on, get in our association. Now write. Nah.

If the draft were, all right, let's see who here might be a hockey player, then I'd follow you. But they draft hockey players because they were playing hockey before they got drafted in the pro rings. So they had proof of concept. Roy was entered into this writer's association

before he was a writer. Potential. Well, in the writers associate. I guess that's one of my questions. It's Mike shh don't blow us cover. Why do I feel racist? Why are you giving me the racist eye right now? I asked him before the show and like my second follow-up. He's like well, I'm a member of the NAB. Wait a second We are not doing that. We are not doing that right now. This is a very logical question. She is a member of the National Association

of Black Journalists. Yeah, I know that. And I was not arguing nose bone a few days. It felt like you were suggesting that there's something about Roy, mustachio-less Roy, that means he can't be. No, I didn't like the accusation you were making. You're right, there was something about Roy,

to me, that indicated that he might not be eligible for the Writers Association, it was the fact that he wasn't a writer. He is though, he wrote. It seems like you're alone in this, the fact is the man wrote. Yeah, no, I know I'm alone in this. In nature, he said. Yeah, I know I'm alone in this the fact is the man wrote yeah, I know I know I know in nature

He said yeah, I know I'm alone in this Right so I get it and it's a very easy take that all of you are writing right now. I get it I'm the bad guy. All right, cool. I'm fine with Roy being in I'm not, I'm not, he ain't a writer, what is this? He's jealous that he's not in it. I don't wanna be in it, I'm not a writer. All right, so to be clear though, you are okay in 2025 to be jumping up and down saying that Roy doesn't have a right to vote.

That's what you're saying. Cause he can't, cause he hasn't written, not cause he can't write, but cause he hasn't written. Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, I am saying that he's not a writer, and it's weird that the Writers Association invite non-writers, but I guess new media, that's cool. He cited a bunch of people that are also non-writers. Wait, well, he mentioned Elliot Freeman, who's written.

I don't know who else is a non-writer that's in the Writers Association, but he also cited the fact that he wrote after he gained entry into the Writers Association, and everyone's looking at me like I'm crazy. You're trying to diminish his accomplishments, you're trying to diminish his journalism-ing, you're trying to do it by saying-

You're trying to frame me as a racist. I didn't say that. Yeah, you are. You waded into those waters, my friend. No, you're trying to, all right, I'm being attacked. It does feel as though you're giving Roy unnecessary hard time, like is this infringing upon something in your life?

Is there some way that this is harming any of us? The man deserves representation and voting for the most dedicated, who's more dedicated? Who, I ask you, is more dedicated than Roy and people like Roy. So what perks do you get for, you wrote the column and you got to vote for one award. Do you get to vote for Con Smythe?

No, not this season. Probably either next season or this season. So you build up some tenure. Yes. In that tenure, do you write more? Probably write a couple more op-eds. Yeah? No, no, no.

This is a genuine question. Are you trying to be a hockey writer? I mean, I have the capability to actually write for the hockey news. But you used to do that. You used to write. That was like one of your strong suits when we were writing blogs and stuff like that.

Mike did, Mike seemed hurt. Mike seemed hurt that he did not know that you had written something, that you hadn't told anybody. He didn't tell anybody. You didn't tell anybody. I actually did tweet it. I tweeted it out.

No one's on that thing anymore. I've seen the soups go way down. I did on threads. I tweeted that out on threads too, and blue sky and whatever. Why did we not do what? I'm not on that echo chamber. You can't catch me on blue sky. That place sucks.

Here's a cat. No, no, an echo chamber. Here's a picture of a cat. And if you live in a red state, nah. An echo chamber. Here's a picture of a cat, and if you live in a red state, you're a commie. I don't like that place. It sounds fucking amazing. It plays one big circle jerk over at Blue Sky. Everyone just like circle jerk and say,

we're not an echo chamber. All right, please don't do those gestures anymore. Thank you. Jeremy, can you please find for me the other writers associations, how many non-writers and non-traditional journalists they allow in? Because I do believe Roy has written more than Mike has read when he listens to his audiobooks.

Oh, come on. What? What? It's because I'm white. That's what it is. You're white? I'm a white Hispanic. Ah, man. But no one's white down here when

they go to the Club World Cup. Well, let's talk about this for a second. Can we talk about this for a second? Because what's headed this way, Dominique, optically and otherwise to sports, we are warning you now, OK, and maybe you do not care about this, because it's 10th on the list of American horrors at the moment. otherwise to sports. We are warning you now, okay, and maybe you do not care about this because it's 10th on the list of American horrors at the moment and you've got bills

to pay and you're not worried about other people's problems. Man, why you just frame me as someone who doesn't care? That was a hell of a setup. But when it comes to ICE and the soccer games that are approaching here and the racial profiling of, we're going to have to prove you're a citizen as you walk into the stadium with, you know, what is, what, I'm not, am I overstating this when I say it looks like state militia? Like, am I overstating,

I don't want to actually be using hyperbole, but if there are protesters and you're sending in the National Guard to overreact to peaceful protesters and this is the escalation of things, white people against non-white people and brown people are going to be profiled of proof you live here, person who wants to go to a soccer game. The optics of that, does anyone care? We passed, like are we in such deep shame at this point that okay, those are the optics we're going to choose because that's the war we're in at home over American democracy and the hating of others. So we know how they profile and they go to places where Hispanics hang out. We've seen

it interrupted restaurants, graduations in Hispanic communities on the live broadcast yesterday during the NBA finals that we did. I mentioned that instead of being where I had a prior commitment but I broke it to be here. That prior commitment was a Telemundo party for one year out for the World Cup celebrating us being the host nation for it. That boat that went out for this party, the Telemundo one-year-out party, was boarded by the Coast Guard and people that were on that boat, including local county officials, FIFA officials,

they had to show documentation. And you wonder, like, where did the Coast Guard, is this just a random occurrence? No, they targeted the Telemundo party. And yesterday we mentioned that ICE and Homeland Security are gonna be at the Club World Cup game on Saturday Where kicks off here in Miami and they said any non-american is gonna have to Provide their papers. Okay, cool. Is there an American Express lane? How do I how do I prove them? I'm an American in Miami

How do I they're just gonna be grabbing people that look different, and plenty of Americans, and plenty of conservative Cubans, are gonna find out exactly where they stand right now in this nation. No American should have to feel that inconvenienced going to what is a sporting event, something that they do with their income, that they wanna have a good time with their family,

they wanna feel safe, and they're gonna feel like their rights are violated, and they wanna have a good time with their family, they wanna feel safe, and they're gonna feel like their rights are violated, and they're gonna feel profiled, because someone in a uniform wearing a mask is gonna demand to see proof that they were born here, or are a citizen. It should scare you, and there are a lot of people that are gonna get a rude awakening going to these games.

You brought up the optics, I think the optics are the point. It's not a mistake that a lot of these things are public and the choice is to make big shows of it because I think while some of us get up in arms about the optics, I think there are some people who are encouraged by the optics. It appears to be happening what they say

that they want it to happen. And then the reaction to it is also something that fuels another reaction. I'm not proposing any proper solution or that behavior should change, but I think that it's silly for us to be surprised by the fact that this is happening and the fact that they are choosing such public events

to spoil. It's sad and it stinks. And if you see where ICE is concentrating their efforts, they're in blue cities, more melting pot cities. What's going on in Miami? Miami's not a blue city. Miami is the only MAGA metropolis there is in the union. Why Miami?

Why so much presence in Miami? You know why. Everyone knows why. Being a red county doesn't buy you anything. It's not gonna buy you anything with this administration. It's not gonna buy you anything with this administration. It's not gonna buy you anything to an ICE official that says you don't look American enough to me. This is where we're headed and and are I guess. I shouldn't even say it's where we're headed. And so I would just ask the audience who, you know, spends a night with us last night just enjoying a finals game

because we are connected to this audience in an unusual way in a number of different places and sometimes it's been in talking about the immigrant struggle or whatever it is that's different for brown people or black people that makes us now WDEI in sports radio. But what is here now for our people in Miami in the face about to be brought by sports is the idea that you and all your friends can go to the game and be stopped because all of us here look kind of from somewhere else. Like we don't, everyone here, I, I, I, everyone I see here, I just start talking Spanish too often incorrectly.

I really don't understand how we just take their word for it. That Americans have nothing to worry about but non-americans provide your papers How do I what how are we doing this exactly? It's just by how I look I would say that um Maybe not the best judgment to have roses hockey reaction behind you while we're talking about actually perfect Actually perfect. I'm just saying a perfect reaction to what's coming this way. And Johnny Infantino, this feels like it was brokered. Chumming around in the Oval Office, seeing Johnny Infantino has never met a tyrant he doesn't love.

And this was allowed by FIFA, part of the deal. And it's just people have no idea potentially how bad this can be, how violated they will feel, especially down here, where the voting demographics for Latinos are heavily conservative, heavily. Speaking of voting demographics, I think Chris just voted with his feet. He's walked right out of there.

He's like, I don't want nothing to do with this. He's producing the show. You see, he wasn't, you thought he was cannonballing there? He was cannonballing. South Florida is a, we touched on the TPS, the travel protections for Venezuelans and Cubans being lifted, and a lot of Miami conservatives found out exactly where they are in the pecking order. You had Maria Elvira Salazar, Carlos Jimenez insist that this wasn't going to happen.

And then it did happen, and they're left holding the bag, and while they say we're gonna work with the current administration to make sure that this is reversed, they're finding out exactly where they stand with this administration. Doesn't matter if you voted red, doesn't matter if you support the cause.

If you're different, you're gonna be lumped in with everybody else, no matter your loyalty to me. I personally, call me crazy, I would like us to respect everyone's rights, no matter whether they've written one piece or a hundred pieces. That's all. He really- I mean, if you are a citizen of the Writers Association, I demand that you be treated as such.

Let me see your papers, Roy. Let me see your hockey newspapers. All right, I will text you my article all right give me one second okay prove yourself Roy don't show him nothing then you can say it for a ride it's I really show me your paper and then you can stay in, everyone show me your papers. Dan has written in a long time. It has been a minute. You gotta get his writer's visa renewed.

I've only written forwards for Greg's book and Stu Gatz's book. That's the only writing that I have done recently. I am with you, Roy. First of all, you don't have to be a writer in order to be a voter. You don't have to know how to write. And I'm with you, Doug.

Oh, don't frame it that way. You pick voter on purpose. You don't have to be a writer to be a writer, is what you should have said. No, no. You don't want Roy to be able to vote. You're hurt, stung, because he didn't tell you that he had written.

You're hurt, you're stung. That did burn. And you don't want him to vote, or yeah. You want him to prove to you that he has the right to vote. Oh. Correct? It sounds like. Correct, that's how you're ending that? Correct, correct.

Is that not the situation we find ourselves in? It is not the situation, Dan LeBretard, it is not the situation at all. Do I have to march? I have to march tonight. I just, no one here knew that he wrote, no one. That's true. And y'all just took it when he said, I'm, no one here knew that he wrote. No one. That's true.

And y'all just took it when he said, I'm a member of the Pro Writers Association. We did, there were no follow ups. That ain't on me, Jack. I should have followed. It's on you. What's on me? It's on you.

What's on me? If you take all his tweets after every game, you could make a column out of that. We just respect our teammate. Yeah, take his word for it. I mean, I think the analogy fits. Like, I don't walk around if someone has a thick accent as they're speaking. I don't say, show me your papers. I'm going about my business. Obviously, you belong here. And I feel the same way about Roy in his writing. Is he a part

of the Writers Association? Yeah. So he belongs there. It's weird. There's one comment on this story and it's from David Dwork saying, how do you think the Oilers will respond in Game 4? Don Lebatard! The Roy is Captain Slappy! Stugats! Is this Chum Bucket? This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats! Roy's face is behind me for a number of different reasons.

Rose's face. I'm sorry, Rose's face. I don't look like that. Is behind me. No, you're in front of me clean shaven. That's a bit confounding. Rose is behind me horrified because that's how she looked. 17 seconds left, just a few periods to go.

Back before the Panthers feel the way they do right now and how the Pacers feel right now, which is that sweet spot that fans have up to one with the third game at home we've gone from that particular horror to you feel today very confident that you're not going to head toward the fear in the Stanley Cup correct I'm gonna get to the NBA in a second we spent four hours with it last night thank you to everybody who participated in our and thank you to Mero for spending time with us.

But you found yourself, if the next, if three periods today go five, four Edmonton, you're right back to scared, right? Like we're, you're feeling very good now. This is the sweet spot for fans of a team that are up to one. You have these next 12 hours to enjoy yourself before you have to Go back to the fear and if you leave three one, that's the spot Indiana's in

Well, first of all never scared. No not gonna happen. But uh, if the Panthers do end up losing I mean, it's gonna be a best of three So I'm very confident in the Panthers going out to Edmonton and getting a win twice if this goes Roy That's the three with two on the road. Come on. You didn't hear a man bone crusher in the Panthers, going out to Edmonton, and getting a win, twice. If this goes seven games, I'm free. Best of three with two on the road, come on. You didn't hear him, man, bone crusher. I ain't never scared, man. Dan, this team has every reason to be confident

going on the road thinking you can get one. I know Roy is kind of just like annoying. You have to get two if you lose tonight. You have to get two on the road. Best of three. No, if we lose tonight, we can win one at home, game six, and then just need to win one of two on the road. If you lose tonight, you are in a series game six and then just need to win one of two on the road What if you lose tonight?

You are in a series with two of the best players in the world best of three and they have two at home And you have to win you have to win in their place. Yeah, you have to win one in their place It's been what was the stat Roy? Dry saddle McDavid and all the games that they played together since early 2024 that they've been both held scoreless. Oh, now we want to ask the writer for his stats, huh? Five? Was it five against the Panthers, I believe? Five games?

It doesn't happen. It's a huge statistical anomaly. Whenever McDavid and Dry-Cytle are both healthy, on the ice, playing for the Edmonton Oilers, and both are held off the score sheet. Hell, they weren't even shooting the puck really in the last game. So I expect two of the best players in the world to come out and do what they, well, do what McDavid did last year in this very similar spot

when they were down in the series being counted out and then he realized I'm gonna stop setting people up I'm gonna start scoring like a demon and I expect demon Connor McDavid and I expect a healthier Leon Dreisaitl to be really good they're both much improved defensively and while 6-1 makes you feel great and makes you feel like the Florida Panthers figured something out that that player has shown you already, with a lesser team, he's not gonna quit. I saw a stat that really simplifies this whole series. 10 games the Panthers and Oilers have played

between this series and last year's Cup Final. Whoever scores the first goal in every game wins. Scary, don't let the Panthers get the first one. That's all I'm saying. I think we could, if we get another one tonight, if we get that first goal, I think, because our crowd's one of those crowds where we might not wow you at the beginning,

but if we get a lead, we know how to celebrate. So I just think if we get that first, I think that, to that stat, I think the first goal is huge. I think if Edmonton gets it, I think we all get scared. I think if we get it, it could be another three, one, four, one, two. So Dan, Chris, Roy, no, no, no, the puck knowers. Charlie? Well, cause I don't know if they watch the first two games.

Interesting, but you're excluding a couple of Mots of all of us. Your take on the Miami Heat was so atrocious, like two weeks ago, you ruined it for me. All right, the first two games, whose style was that played in? Edmonton's style. We played into Edmonton's game and Florida came away with a split,

but I think in game three, Edmonton showed you, we're gonna change things up and they tried to play the Panthers way and they got embarrassed, they Fafo'd. In this entire series. What is that word? Faf-o. Acronym.

He's right. OK, I'm sorry. I don't know. I've never heard that before. They leap around and find out. OK, sorry. I didn't. My bad.

Show me your papers. Edmonton's led for nine minutes in this series. It's a great catchphrase. You just use it all the time. It's a go-to catchphrase. No matter what is being said, you just respond to everybody. In the digital age, my man is making up for yesterday's show. In the digital age, if you hit me with a show me your papers, I'm disarmed immediately.

Analog. When I don't have any papers. Show me that weird little circular scar on your arm. Let me know when your parents came to town. And show me your parents' papers, too. So they've led for nine minutes in this entire series. We're three games into this series, two of the games played by their style.

So Edmonton's going to be searching for answers. I think the answers go back to what you did the first two games. But is that going to be enough? I think this is going to be a really long series. I think it's still seven games, and I'm not reading too much into a 6-1 defeat. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think McDavid and Dry Cytle come out with their hair on fire.

I'm sorry, I just got really happy. I just sold two tickets. I've been taking a bath on these tickets that I bought for these playoffs, and I just sold my first two. All right, we're in the game, baby. What do you mean, you sold your tickets? Like, no, no, I have, because I'm a season ticket holder,

so I got access to extra tickets, you know, to play the game and let me sell these things. And the first game, game three, took a big bath. Sold to who? What's her surname? Does it end in a Z? I'm just happy. I think I might've even taken a loss on these tickets,

but I sold them. So why are you happy that you sold your tickets? You know what taking a bath's like, Dan? That was last game. That was pretty nice. This is like, what's it called when you just take a little lot? A bath is when you lose every dollar you spend.

People went at the crowd for leaving early. And I get it, it's not really a school night. We're on summer vacation right now. They pointed to a lot of empty seats when it was 6-1. The only counter that I had to that is like, how do you know those weren't Edmonton fans? Which is also a bit of a cell phone right now. So I hope that the Panthers fans bring it,

even if it, especially if it goes the same way that game three went because the eyes of the hockey world are on you. I have a number of questions here. I hope somebody's looking up taking a bath. I wanna know. We know that it's coming, questions. I hope somebody's looking up taking a bath. I wanna know. We know that it's coming, right? I wanna know why someone's taking a bath.

Why did you take a bath in losses? Why are you selling your tickets? Why are you celebrating that you're selling your fandom so that an Edmonton fan could have your tickets? You're misunderstanding. I'm going with my two tickets. Because I'm a season ticket holder, I got early access to extra tickets. I bought a couple hoping to make a couple bucks

flipping them. Yes, it might be an Edmonton fan. I see you flip them things, push a C. What I'm telling you is game three, I did zero pushing, I took a bath. I bought tickets, they didn't sell. I had to give them away. A bath sounds lovely.

It does. So what, but you're not saying washed. But that's a bad thing. I've got the origins them away a bath sounds lovely it does so what so but you're not saying washed But that's a bad thing. I've got the origins of taking a bath and emerged in Wall Street In the 1920s and 30s that's around the time of the Great Depression right take a bath meant to get cleaned out Financially as if being washed away or stripped bare after a bad investment or a market crash boom to the usage nice job But four tickets had to give them out push a C on isn't I want I want to get to something dolphin related thing like peepee

That's a bar man, I hate it kick it off man the first clip song in like two decades Here we go yellow diamonds look like peepeepee how am I supposed to get behind this? I'm behind it. No no no I'm totally behind it. My son made fun of me because I had it planned he was like the first line but he got into it later he's like he's like Mahatma what does that mean I'll break it all down for you man everybody quiet down there's one of the greatest MCs ever push it's gonna freaking knock this out the park yellow diamonds look like pee pee I love it province of Waikiki Roy has some dolphin sound that I want to get to Tua is saying that the culture has changed around the Miami Dolphins I'll fix Dan McDaniel is saying that everything is now he's in charge.

All of it kind of rings a bit hollow. I feel good. Okay, do you? It's all fixed. Okay. What do you mean? Okay. Let's hear what Tua says here.

Okay, so you're willing. Nothing to worry about. All right, you're willing to buy on Tua and culture change. We'll get some expertise from Dominique on this. There is a culture shift and I know it. I mean, I feel it just as much as everyone that's been here since I've I've gotten into the league we always hear about man yeah oh culture shift you guys have a change of this you guys are doing this always optimistic but I really do feel in my

heart that this is a change of scenery for our guys in the locker room and then it also transitions to our coaches as well because we get opportunities to lead and it's not as much the coaches as it is the players I would say this year. I feel better. Problem solved. I want to play McDaniel as well because I want to know how real any of this is because we can agree on this right I believe anybody who's listened to our show for the last three years who would

understand that we have profound respect for how the architecture of the Florida Panthers has been built so that excellence can be represented in sports in our city in a way that's enduring dynastic everyone can see in a sport holy shit that's the best thing it looks like the best thing the Dolphins used to be that in this town, used to. They've been surpassed in this town by a pair of teams, and the Dolphins are the one that we want to root for. And the coach, Boy Wonder, is now in a, like, swamp of, oh, the words aren't so cute,

and the genius isn't so cute if Tyreek Hill isn't always faster than everyone else. And so, play the sound of McDaniel who's probably coaching for his job now, right? Hey, it's okay to call someone out when they deserve to be called out. And for those people to, it's okay to be called out as long as you change your behavior, okay?

You heard that? When someone tells you something, you change your effing behavior. I'm feeling good about the Dolphins after those two clips. Me too, Chris. My brother, Mike McDaniel, is onto something. I appreciate that. He's changed the culture.

I think we can have fun with it and we can make a lot of jokes. I think it's unfair of us not being in the locker room and I get you saying that it's not a change of scenery, but I believe that he means metaphorically. like it feels like things around there have changed. Or disseminating the message is different than how you feel in that locker room, and I assume that they actually do feel differently.

The first step to changing the culture, and I'm sure Charlie's gonna be tired of hearing me saying this because I do it on our show all the time, where I define what culture is. It's like the accepted behaviors and practices and processes in an organization. So we all say culture and it just means something amorphous. It means the way that you do business.

So the idea that you show up to meetings five minutes early or 10 minutes early, like that's part of culture. The idea that you watch film afterwards, that's part of culture. All the organizations I've been a part of, the culture is something that you inherit from the players that are there

and it's something that the players must,, to the point that McDaniel's making, the players have to hold each other accountable. They have to call each other out. Saying it to the media, eh, I don't care about that. If they're actually living that, that matters because it's pretty easy to motivate guys when they understand that their livelihoods actually do depend on the people next to them. To that point, I can use your counsel here and advice on leadership and culture changing right now in our environment.

I have not gone back to Charlie since he defeated me. I've been scarred by that and didn't want to look into that corner because I underestimated someone who considers himself my nemesis and I had never. Arch nemesis. And I had never considered a nemesis until he came onto my show for the first time in front of me with a microphone and did a me to me in my face to start the bidding of

he's now my nemesis and so how would you change the culture around me so that Charlie can be more freely welcomed by this ego monster? There's no need to change the culture. I thought that was awesome. Are your feelings hurt? No, you're good. And the problem is you're acting as if this was a surprise. He called you a nemi months ago.

You've been newt that he was a nemesis of yours. I don't know why you're surprised. I had, well, I had, I had underestimated. He does consider himself my nemesis. I had not considered, I mean, come on. Arch nemi. Why would he be my nemesis? Nimhart.

Well, Dan, we have a relationship where for every 10 texts I send you, you respond to one. And normally it's in a group chat where you're like, this guy sucks. So that's like, that's some Nemi behavior. Is it? Chris Cody, you got a verdict on this? I don't know if he thinks about you a lot

if he's only responding to- It is the Mad Men meme. I don't think about you at all. a lot, if he's only responding to you. It is the Mad Men meme. I don't think about you at all. Well, clearly I underestimated you, because I was not expecting that you would come on this turf and immediately do a better impersonation of me than I've ever heard. It was some gangster shit.

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I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. time longer. Yeah longer than I've known Charlie This is a new Charlie man like in the last year or two. I've encouraged Charlie to go ahead and Be his true self and his true self is cocky He's my f you guys so every team has a guy that is like when things get out of hand

They got a straight people out. That's Charlie and I think you didn't know that about him because you met him when he was young He's turned into a new person. Yeah, I love him, I'm proud of him. He's got cloth pants now. Striped cloth pants. Linen. He only got three nice shirts though, and I get on him about it all the time, and that's one of them.

That's his best shirt. That's his best shirt. How much is the fake Dan LeBretard a part of the Dominique Foxworth show a rising digital spaceship at ESPN? I mean, we don't think about you that much. I didn't ask that question. I said how much, I'm asking, I'm not asking for flattery. I'm just asking to know how much of a character

the fake Dan LeBattard is on the Dominique Foxworth show. It makes it pretty often. When we get to a topic, I think Charlie uses it as a tool to make sure that I hear myself when I get Grandstandy high horsey. Oh, so he uses it as a device. Yeah, get ready Charlie We're like about five seconds away from Dan going with the fake Dan LeBattard like to have some more observations Only thing left. Well, I don't want to spoil it I know one move that he had to pulled out yet and I know it's coming eventually and I can't wait for it.

It's my favorite Dan move. Can we have fake Zagacki and Levitard at a dinner together? He's giving balls off his face. We'll have the check and your papers. You let him in that room and it is a beauty in there. It's a shame I used to like coming to this place. Was that Jamel? Was that Jamel?

A quiet, curly-haired revolutionary in there, just sitting in a corner, seeing resentment. No, I'm still with you, Dan. I'm a fellow writer here, so I'm with you. Roy, I don't know how it is that we as a show sort of copyright in a hurry, show me your papers as a threat. Already been copyrighted by the US government, Dan-O. We can make anything comedy.

I'm just saying the aggressive... Really? Did you hear the first 10 minutes? Thanks for your buy-in, pal. No one else had that question? I guess I'm an asshole. You know what? Again, Mike, I did have the question when Roy said it. In your mind. It stayed in my mind.

Coward. Coward. Content, coward. It stayed in my mind because as we often do, we moved on to Supes or the Stanley Cup final or whatever so it slipped my mind But I did think about it for a moment in passing I did not know how I trotted this one out on the earth today as I mentioned it yesterday beta test Oh, yeah, that's a funny observation Mike. No one else had thought to ask. What are you right? I come out here on the goddamn island out here on the goddamn island. Well, I was.

And everyone thinks I'm a dick for it. I don't even want to see the comments. Kind of a dick for it. We got filters, baby. Filters. We workshopped it before the show. I think I got buying. Woo.

He's heading down a dangerous path. You lead that one, Mike. Yeah, you're taking away his votes. Taking away his votes. Voting rights. That was how you were helping me? Rather been on that boat that got raided by ice yesterday. Teammates like this. And I know I wasn't a great teammate for Roy,

but that's how we, you know, it's an ensemble. It's an ensemble, we do it. I'll be the dick this and you guys be the funny guys. No, don't give away, don't give away the game. Just back you. Don't give away the game. Just Roy, back you. Don't give away the game. Just Roy, who is like the nicest he's ever been to me, help it. The most.

Don't give away the game. I got the most help comedically from Roy in this segment. And he was the one that was like getting attacked. Because that's how you framed it. I was just sitting back like shaking my head. You were all holding the umbrella. Good teammate. It's what happened. it just gets in the way

so banger I'm not sick of that song every morning every morning I'm not going to apologize to Mike he didn't want really voting was that Charlie you can't do that