The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Splendiferous Day

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

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Baker Mayfield when he essentially only has a tight end and you don't go for two on the road? That's textbook right there. What are we doing? You say it's textbook but according to next-gen stats ESPN analytics all of the modeling there are four teams that scored touchdowns in the last two minutes of regulation and they decided to kick to tie the game and analytics say that's the right place right play but all four of the teams ended up losing but analytics say it's the right play but doesn't that take into account all the other quarterbacks in the league

that bring that down when the opposing quarterback is Patrick Mahomes and if he gets the ball your toast if you tell me one play on the road I I gotta get three yards, I can avoid overtime, I can avoid all of it, that's the play that I want if I have confidence in my offense. One play for the game, three yards, I wanna be on offense, I don't wanna be on defense. Like if I don't want to be on defense with the lead and the other team going for two,

I want them to kick the extra point and give me overtime. That's a perfect opportunity to steal a game. You're devastated by injuries. You essentially just have Kate Auden out there. You battle your heart out. You give your quarterback an opportunity to win that game on the road because of what happened. Patrick Mahomes gets the ball. You don't see it and now your season is looking pretty bad without that surprise win and it probably changes your whole approach on this really massive day. I don't know how everyone else feels about this but we're

officially in the land where the Chiefs have absorbed all of the things that the Patriots used to be. It's not just that you know Mahomes is gonna win the game late, it's not just that you know they're gonna convert their third downs, it's not just that you know that they're gonna win all those one-score games, it's that when they get Deandre Hopkins it matters and when anyone else gets Deandre Hopkins it doesn't matter because they are now in that rarefied Patriots air where if they get somebody or if they think they know something we're willing to say yeah they must know something because

DeAndre Hopkins I thought no one wanted him three years ago. Three years ago he was available to everyone in the league. How is DeAndre Hopkins showing us the best Patrick Mahomes we've seen in about 14 games and they've won 14 in a row by the way. And and that's the best Mahomes. Last night is the best Mahomes because they've won 14 in a row. I love the one those two quarterbacks play one another. They just bring out the best in one another. Ever since college, there's just something special in the air when Baker Mayfield takes on Patrick Mahomes. Now that's probably why, not DeAndre Hopkins,

not actually filling the Rishi Rice spot with someone that's competent. That's not what it is. It's the fact that Patrick Mahomes took to that gridiron and across the way was Baker Mayfield. Why'd you go gridiron there? I think the person that uses. Something special was in the air.

I think the person that uses gridiron instead of football field, Douche. No. No, no, no, no. Gridiron? Not after yesterday's game. There's a time and a place, and that was the time and that was the place.

I might be willing to grant you that Kansas City is the place. Yeah, Arrowhead's a gridiron. I'm not willing to grant you that that's the place. I might be willing to grant you that Kansas City is the place. I'm not willing to grant you that that's the time. Middle of the season, early November, that's not the time. It was a time for Mike to say it is what I'm saying. That was a time for me to say it. There's certain places that don't have fields,

they just have grid irons. Soldier Field, if Field is in the name, that's a grid iron. How about Lambeau? Oh, grid iron, that's a gridiron. How about Lambo? That's a gridiron. What are they calling Heinz these days? Acresher? Can't get behind that.

Went from gridiron to field. Rare, but it happens. How many gridirons are there? Give me a number. Oh, hold on. You want to go stadium by stadium? Because I think you're under three. I think you've just named the only three grid irons that there are. Pitbull Stadium.

Minnesota Outdoors would have been grid iron, but if you put Minnesota in a dome, it ceases to be grid iron. Boise. How about Chicago? Soldier Field. Yeah, good one. Steve Martin also.

Oh, sorry. I don't think that college football can be a gridiron. But it's blue. But it can't be college football. Gridiron can't be college football. Strictly NFL? That's the big house. There's some college gridirons. I disagree.

Touchdown Jesus is not overlooking a gridiron? No, once you're playing semi-professional football, you don't get the gridiron. The gridiron only goes to professional football. And furthermore, professional football that's been played in the cold since the 50s. Now you have rules for it, huh? That's correct. Ford Field, the Rare. As opposed to you,

which has no rules. What is professional? You have no explanation for what you're doing. You're just saying words. It's one of those things, Dan, when you see it or you think it, you know. What makes a professional football good question Millions and millions and millions of dollars to the quarterback. That's in college now, too

It's got to be 50 million dollars hmm a season for the quarterback well, they don't even have that in the NFL Does my homes make 50 million that seems like a lot No 50 million is the number that all those guys make Trevor Lawrence who will makes 50 million Yeah, all I mean look at this off making like 53 or something. I'm making 53 million Everly Everbank Stadium like 14 million dollars. That's a field Jaguars playing that's Kachuk million dollars that's a field Jaguar's playing a field that's Kachuk hmm where else are the grid irons because I don't agree with you guys that college football can have a gridiron it's got to be professional football it's got to be also you guys are doing this in November and you can't do it in November it was a

chill in the air yeah you can of course no it's got to be more than a chill it's got to be tundra that's frozen no that's a tundra you're confusing totally different yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it. Today's a...there's a lot going on today, but you're confusing tundras and grid irons. A grid iron can have sprinklers going across it the first day of spring. The dog pound's a grid iron. Your words, I got baggage. I'm saying this of tundra and grid iron. All tundras have a gridiron, all gridirons are not on tundras. They should have went for two, is the bottom line. Again the math says don't go for two.

But the math is bogged down by guys making 14 million dollars at the position, not this incredible amount that I'm just learning about, wow we're hearing that for the first time, 50 million dollars. You can't be doing that against Patrick Mahomes because of what happened because of what you know what there were people That work in this office. I'm not gonna name names I'm possibly one of them that fell asleep as soon as that what game went over time knowing what was gonna happen really yeah Which is clearly the right tackle for Kansas City is gonna get an early jump and they're gonna score a touchdown Baker knew it right at the coin toss he knew it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. He knew he was walking off that field for the final time Yes, yes

Some fields aren't grid irons or fields. They're hazards met life has heard hazard Bengals Stadium Stadium has so many bad things. Everybody knows hazard the jungle. Mm-hmm this whole situation, by the way, you just said the math said to do it and the math was 0 for 4. That's like, I'd take a math test and I'd 2 plus 2 is 5. That's math. It's wrong math. It's still math, technically. Does math factor in?

You're on the road, you're playing against Patrick Mahomes, you're running the ball all over that team, you have momentum. Does math factor that in? Well, you weren't here because you were smoking a rare morning heater when we were talking about it, but in week nine, four teams scored touchdowns in the last two minutes of regulation, decided to kick extra points to tie their games, and ESPN Analytics agreed the modeling

with the decision to kick the extra point in all four of the instances, but all four of the teams lost. And this is a move that Stugatz is gonna be able to do for the rest of his life, which is once the team loses, he says, I don't care about math. And he gets to be right forever

because he hasn't failed to make the two point conversion. He's just gonna keep doing this show. This show, Stugatz is gonna do this show 10 years after he has died. From the coffin, he's just gonna spit these cliches, should have gone for two, don't care what the math says, don't do math, don't understand math, not applying math to sports, don't wanna think,

just wanna say they did it wrong, I always do it right. Heaven. But Dan is touting math that is currently successful at a 0% clip. They changed the overtime rules in that sport because of what happened to Patrick Mahomes, one off season where he lost a coin toss and he lost it to Tom Brady.

And then he won a coin toss and other quarterbacks like Josh Allen didn't get an opportunity. He is a math breaker. So you gotta go on vibes, especially when you're the Tampa Bay Bucks fighting to keep your season alive, decimated by injuries, and you have a quarterback that's playing hot. You gotta go for it.

You gotta. I'm excited about this, Tugats, because we were having a conversation before the show, one that, to be honest with you, to be frank, I was concerned that Dan wasn't necessarily gonna be down for today, and it had to do with you know with the NFL standings. Now with what we're talking about math and how you know follow the math even if the math is wrong I feel like Dan is gonna be in on this. So Dan we can unleash it later we can maybe just tease it now. We're coming up with a statistic a new one an advanced stat it's called quality losses. We want to give credit for some quality losses and maybe replace

one of the playoff spots with a quality loss. We can get to that in the main show when we kinda get to, we can run it down for you, but just keep an eye out for that, an ear out for that if you will. By the way, Nissan Stadium, Tennessee, field. Also, AT&T Stadium Dallas, pains me to say it, field.

Not a great iron. Yeah. Chris, where's your father? I have no idea, he just texted me that he'd loss against the Bills was a QL. I mean, Humorism on a Tuesday and I don't know how it is. He's gonna muster dolphin homerism to well He felt like the Dolphins loss against the Bills was a QL. I mean, how about that? He sent me a text We'll get into it later. Yeah How long before you issue a silver alert for Greg? Hmm? I'd say an hour. I'm gonna silver alert or gray alert. Well, regular life alert. Wouldn't it be a gray alert?

What's a gray alert? An old person alert. No, it's called a silver alert. It's a silver alert. Yeah, it has an actual name. It should be a gray alert. Like a code blue. First with the math and now with this.

A guy just wants to ignore facts. You guys keep doing this and you're putting me in the position. It's such a good move by you guys to just say again and again, well, you've got one play. This is the simple math, and it's the math I would agree with as you put me in the position of arguing on behalf of just playing probabilities, which is what everybody out there was doing. If you give me a game against Patrick Mahomes,

where at the end of the game, I get to be holding the football and he doesn't, I get to be holding the football and he doesn't? Yeah. I want to be holding the football because he's not holding the football. That's good math. But advanced math takes into account variables. And I don't know, you said it was 0 for 4.

I don't know the names of the quarterbacks that they went up to. One of them was the Bills Dolphins game. One of them was the game. The Dolphins didn't go for it either. And that's another circumstance in that situation. I'd rather take my chances with I have the ball, Josh Allen doesn't have the ball,

one play for the game, three yards. But it wasn't for the game, because he still had a minute and a half left. The game wasn't going to end on that play. I appreciate your ability to create a spirited debate on something that you're not even on the side of. I think you're aligned with Us on this one variables change when it's the greatest quarterback of all time

Mm-hmm. I want to get into some of these numbers though with Mahomes because you're making him the greatest quarterback of all time That's a little early and Stu gots just rolled over for you there, which surprised me. He's always here for a greatest-ever debate He just gave Brady's thing away to my homes there without even paying attention. You might have caught up, Teron Rogers, in terms of all-time quarterback rating last night. Oh, you're a past Teron Rogers. Listen to some of these numbers. Like, this is the damning stuff.

The last eight games in which, this is Optistats, the last eight games in which the Chiefs trailed at any point in the second half, including the playoffs, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win. No other NFL team in history has won eight straight games in which they trailed in the second half, regular season and post season. So what happens when another mathematician

bombs in with that stat? Yep. You got two competing math stats. Yep. Josh Duboe of the AP says, Mahomes is now 47 and 19 in his career in games, decided by seven points or fewer, playoffs included. And then this is the stuff that changes everything when it comes to Mahomes being ranked in the 20s in all

of the quarterback stats. This is from Sheil Kapadia. Patrick Mahomes on third down, 11 for 13 for 126 yards and 10 first downs. He's got the highest success rate on third and fourth downs this season and he's got the highest EPA per play and on third and fourth downs this season of all quarterbacks. Basically, he's failing on first and second down in a way that makes him the worst quarterback in the league and on third down he's the best quarterback in the league, so he keeps converting first downs.

When it counts. Likes to make it interesting. Do you think he's just playing with his food? Yeah. I mean, we all know him to be supremely skilled, and that those first, second downs, when you compare it to the rest of his career, that would appear to be an outlier. It kind of gives me the vibes that he's just trying to figure things out on first and second down. He's had different personnel and he's just taking some hacks

and he knows exactly when he needs to lock in and be the greatest. First and second down is a feeling out process for Patrick Mahomes and he makes you think, hey, we've got him right where we want him, but you don't, he's got you. It says more about the injuries that they've had to their backfield. They've had a bunch of injuries on that team and they've navigated it so it'd help

explain what's going on on first and second down greg kody what are you doing i'm um getting over this is a new and improved down levatar show with the stugats gamble on by draft kings stugats more muscular. Mm-hmm. I have lost 10 pounds. Have you? Yeah, using my Peloton. I've had the Peloton in my house,

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So I started using Peloton as a bike Obviously, that's like what they're known for but recently I discovered all of the other classes that they have They have like a series of weightlifting classes They have programs which for me the programs is great because I don't have to think about what I'm doing If not, I just go and I pick a class at random and I don't know that I'm actually accomplishing anything I would like some recommendations on classes because I keep going to the same class. Okay It's the grateful dead class class, by the way. You do like a four-week core program with Emma Lovewell.

I would recommend that one. Anyone can do that. Any level starts out easy and then you work your way up. And then there's like a core program two that you can do after core program one. If you want to do that. Yeah. If you graduate. Wait a second.

You have to graduate course one to get to course two, the harder course. Well, you can start a course two if you want, but I eased my way in, I did course one first. Then you can do some strength classes with Andy, love a strength class with Andy, he really puts me through it. I get up and I'm like a sweaty mess, and I'm kind of disgusting and I love it.

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Greg Cody is here, he is ready, and I feel the responsibility, the obligation, the duty to start somber and serious. Do I not? Why? Because today is a pretty scary day, all things considered. Oh yeah, I forgot. Nervous day for you, huh? I mean, same for me.

It's deadline day, are the teams, certain teams gonna get the players they need to make a big playoff run? You have the selection committee. What are they gonna do with Army? What are they gonna do with Vanderbilt? It is a big day. I'm nervous as well, Dan.

Huge day. I'm on edge. Yeah, a lot going on. Yep. Gentlemen, why are y'all on edge? There's no reason to be sad Scared that either there's no reason to be any of those emotions other than optimistic Dan LeBretard How you doing old friend? Good to see you. I am happy to see Roy Wood, Jr. I'm also happy to see Michael Ian Black. these guys are doing some good and fun television around politics

I don't know if Michael Ian black knows anything about sports though. I don't know everything about sports. Yeah Every time we talked about don't know anything Michael knows anything about sports. I Know everything about sports say say Kwan Barkley did something yesterday. Yes, that was Sunday, but OK. Two days ago, yes. He did do something yesterday too, probably. He's a football player, guys. That is correct. I should tell people that this show, it's a legitimately

funny news quiz show. It's Saturday at 9 PM Eastern on CNN. Have I Got News for You. They're trying to rattle and change the format. But you were saying, Roy, I interrupted you. Dan, this is a Splendiferous and Tuplicitous day. I have my red and blue lights on in the background to celebrate democracy for maybe the final time, Dan. What is the size of that cup of excess that Michael is drinking from there? Because that looks like America.

How? Jesus. I mean, what is that? This is the Q-liter mug. That's a lot. That's got an undertow. That drink has an undertow. My god.

Roy, you're not making me feel better about today. I'm scared. How can I not be scared? How is polling still close even with positive polls? I can't trust polls. Because people are stupid, Dan. We have to understand that some people like to be pander to. There were some people who hadn't decided on which candidate they were going to vote for until they saw Trump work at McDonald's. And then they were like, all right, now I have all the information I need. We're just, we're kind of dumb as a country.

It just is what it is. You know how you have that one person in your office who picks the Super Bowl winner based on whose team colors coordinate the best? That person's also voting in this election today. You've just described me, Roy. You've just described me.. You've just described me. Well, you were, I want you to be positive.

I'd like you to be positive, but your latest sub stack post, the headline is we're bleeped either way. So I- Yeah, so there's nothing to worry about. Either way we're F'd. So it's just a question of, are we gonna, is it gonna be slow?

Is it gonna be fast? And that's a personal preference. That's up to you guys. You know? The nation is in a terrible place right now. Because if Trump wins, well, he's going to enact his policies. And if Kamala wins, those policies won't be enacted.

But she's not going to be able to get anything done. So we're just going to continue this stalemate of of of of a government sort of in paralysis, no matter who wins, it's going to be a disaster. So just enjoy it. Enjoy the ride to hell. All right. Excellent. So optimism aplenty there, Roy. I will say that if there was ever a day men for you to flirt with a woman today is the day. Because somewhere around 1130 when those polls get to closing and Kornacki starts touch-screening all night long, you can just ease up to some woman

at an election party and go, hey, we did it. What's your name? Or you can go, I can't believe that happened. What's your name? Michael, I'm interested here. What do you think the committee does with Indiana? He doesn't know sports. He doesn't know.

No, I know sports. They're a committee in Indiana. I mean, it's a tough one. I don't know how they're gonna figure this one out, but somehow they got to. Yeah, you're right. Good analysis. Well said.

It is good analysis. I'll ask you a little something more in your wheelhouse. I'm sorry, Roy, I interrupted. Am I the only person that doesn't like it, or I get nervous when I, I feel like when our armed forces are good at college football, it's a good sign of where we are

in terms of internal conflict globally. Because normally, like when the Army is like four and eight, you know, four and six, never going to a bowl, and now they're balling out all of a sudden. It goes, okay, cool, they're not studying as much war stuff. So the players have more time with their playbook. So I feel like it's a good sign that troops

won't get deployed. I'm not here to, you know, tell you the bet on that, but I'm just telling you how it makes you feel. That's not the semi-sure bet of the week. We'll get to that in a second. But Michael, what you, you of the last week, as you're watching the idea that RFK is gonna oversee health care and Herschel Walker is gonna be in charge of missile defense, what you've been watching over the last week, you seem to be on the show, have I got news for you? I don't know if if you've got Roy topped but you seem to be the most pop culture savvy by leaps and bounds and that's no indictment on anyone else you seem to know everything that is going on around the news so over the last week what have you you know what has set off alarm bells for you alarm bells I mean somebody said look I'm a Democrat I'm not gonna I'm not to make any pretenses about that. I don't know what you guys are.

But somebody said yesterday that the thing that has him most worried is the level of optimism among the Democrats. And that actually struck a nerve. I thought, yep, that's about right. If Democrats are feeling good, that's a problem. So that struck me. Elon saying that he thinks he's, he said he's F'd and he's going to go to jail and whatever, if Kamala wins, which I don't fully understand why that would be the case.

I don't know what he's worried about other than he acts like that, other than he just is that dude. That would be some cause for concern But he's gonna be that way no matter who wins And then of course all the sports stuff. Holy cow. I mean I can't I can't I mean I don't even know how we begin talking about that James Franklin dropped another big one. I mean, what do they do it? I mean this this this kid was a was a blue chip in my book and now I don't know he's a coach We can mine this for a little bit because I don't think he knows much of anything about sports But I do think you could pretend to know everything

Roy your you can't trust the polling, but I do keep assuming, even if I have post-traumatic stress disorder from everyone getting everything wrong in 2016, I do keep thinking there's no way that women don't turn out in a way that alters this election. I keep thinking that. They have to.

They have to. And then you also have, I think, a Latino populace that's been activated now as well. Look, when you have Bad Bunny and Ricky Martin tweeting about politics the week before the election, there's definitely something different in the air. Can I ask y'all a question about Kamala on SNL real quick? Yep.

Just for the sake of analysis, you put one candidate on and because of the laws you have to give equal time to the other candidate, NBC, accommodated Trump by giving him I think 90 seconds of free ads at some point. If you're NBC, why not just put Trump on any one of your other shows for two minutes straight? Like, I don't know, Law and Order SVU. Special episodes. Just equal time somewhere.

Just special episode. It doesn't have to be campaign ads. Like they literally can just go, hey, man, do you want to be on The Voice for a couple of minutes? And that would have been way better than some Trump ad that, you know, the ads that kept running during the World Series where it's about Kamalan prisoners and all of that. Hey man, you want to spin the Wheel of Fortune for a couple minutes?

Have fun, have at it. Fun, have fun for you Don, go have fun. Is that indeed an NBC property? I don't think it is an NBC. Let's not get technical about this, OK? Jeez. I like this guy. Yeah.

I do. I just, I, the one thing I really hated about this political season is that I really, I know that the candidates pay for the ad time, but no political ads during sports. It's just such a buzzkill in the middle. Like you want to go pregame, postgame, fine, put all the ads you want.

But like a guy would just like, Freddie Freeman hit a walk off grand slam and then we'll be right back with the trophy presentation. Kamala Harris is chopping off all the generals of the prisoners. It's like, whoa, bro. Whoa. Put that in, like, save that for regular season.

Like, any sport that's in regular season, campaign ads. But I think, like, World Series, I don't know. It just, it felt like a lot. It was a buzzkill. But the prostate ads don't bother you? That's fine. The ads for all kinds of medical. 45, Michael, it's about that time.

I'm turning the corner, and those are the things I need to be connecting with. I'm almost at that age where them commercials on Fox News gonna be for me. So, I just gotta think about that a little bit. Michael, as you've been an astute observer of America, I would say, both its pop culture and, as can be seen on Have I Got News for You,

you understand its politics. What do you make of the last eight years? Like, did you know that this was the country that you were living in? No. Does that answer your question? No. I mean, it's been a, it's been a rude awakening. Now look, we can sit here and talk about privilege of various kinds, most of which I have, but

to see the sort of scales fall from my eyes over the last eight years as 47% of my countrymen are willing to vote for an adjudicated rapist, convicted felon, fraudster, con man, grifter, liar, and bloviator, it has been somewhat distressing to witness that. And whatever your excuse for voting for this man pales in comparison to who he is. And if we're just gonna say that character is irrelevant to the presidency, then we should just say it.

But the fact of the matter is, character trickles down to policy, and we've seen that time and time again. We've seen Nixon's paranoia trickle down to policy. We've seen Clinton's problems with his own genitalia trickle down to policy and almost cost him his presidency. We've seen Trump's carelessness, laziness, and arrogance and malevolence trickle down to policy.

So when you say character doesn't matter, which I think seems to be the argument, it has to be if you're supporting from then i think you have to say that we're also fine with the malevolent policy that he is at least suggesting and if he wins again i think will probably do everything in his power to implement so yes it has been extremely distressing over the last eight years to recognize that i live in a country where forty seven at least percent of the

Population is fine with all of that Roy. You're less surprised, correct Yeah, I'm black I should have said Roy you're're black. That should have been my question. You know what's interesting is watching Saturday Night Live had a sketch in 2016 with Chappelle and Chris Rock and a couple of people where they had the black people watching the election party and not being as surprised as the white people that Hillary was losing that night. I think it's a little bit of that, but I really do think we're going to get like when Trump is talking about, you know, oh, we got to take the license away from CBS or NBC.

We're beyond the crooked media. Now we're into attacking entire entities. And in a weird way, I hope that that becomes this downfall because now you're dealing with corporate money and corporate money always trumps politics. But that makes me legitimately concerned that this man can just point at anybody and go, there he is, get him. That's our new enemy.

And then that's what you deal with. You know, you start about pointing guns at Liss Cheney, pointing guns at the media. This is all within the last week. So what is, I'm more concerned as a member of the media and a stand-up comedian, what the trickle down of that malevolence that Michael's talking about is gonna have.

I mean, of course there's policy that's gonna hurt everybody, but when you start getting into, hey, I don't like your job, then it can get a little weird out there when you're walking around with a camera I'm more concerned about Juan Soto Michael. Do you think I'll get the 700 million dollars? He he thinks he's gonna get Look, this kid has been a blue chip for as long as I can remember. That's true. I've been I've been it I mean, this is a five tool player. Yeah

The way he swings a bat my player. You know, and the way he swings a bat, my goodness. Oh, look, he knew the sport. He knew the sport. I mean, just such a fluid stroke on that dude. So look, is he gonna get the seven large? I don't know, but we're gonna see a contract that I think is gonna make him very, very happy. Will it be with New York?

Will it be with LA? Who's to say? I don't know. All these guys like Soto. Wait, wait, wait. Was that at all? Was I somewhere? It was bloviated. It's more New York or New York, but we were close.

LA's in play. LA's in play. It's actually pretty on the money. Yeah, pretty good. Is it though, is it Soto due for his, where did Luke Skywalker get sent to learn all the stuff from Yoda? Was it?

Hogwarts. Yeah? Hogwarts. Yeah, Hogwarts. He's due for his like exile year. Every great player has their five-year exile money grab contract. A-Rod went to Texas for an absurd amount. Who's the boy who went to Seattle? Cano, before the steroids. Robinson Cano, yeah.

There's certain players that just go, you know what, let me just get a bunch of money in a weird market for a couple of years and then I'll come back to the highest bidder a little later. I don't feel like Soto ends up on either coast. He'll end up with the Minnesota Twins or something dumb founded. All respect to the twins,

but you know you're not the right place for him, but he'll come there cause they'll pay 840 or something stupid. I will tell the people. When somebody takes a lot of money and goes into the hinterlands, is that how you ended up at CNN with me? Yes.

That show Saturday, 9 p.m. Eastern on CNN, the coveted time slot also streams Sunday on max but Michael it does really seem in your it seems in your wheelhouse it's I don't know if you guys are having as much fun as it looks like on television because these things are hard to pull off and I know a lot of work goes on behind the scenes that people don't know about but you're making it look easy well they get it from my point of view no work goes on behind the scenes. I show up on Fridays at 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock.

We shoot at 7 o'clock. I've done nothing to prepare. Nothing has prepared me. I put on clothes that they lay out for me. They put some stuff on my face and stuff in my hair and I go out and talk. It's the best job I've ever had. It's a little bit like your job. Wow, Roy.

It's exactly like my job. What a great economy you've created, Roy, for your friends and people you care about. That's an easy gig for him. I thought it would be hard. I show up at one. I'm only there two hours before. Okay, so you guys are just good at entertainment.

Thank you, Brits. Thank you. Well, here's the thing. The show is a British remake that's been on for 30, 35 years. So they know how they have an assembly line in order of how to ideate the content and all of that stuff. So you don't have to slave over stuff and show up every day for a whole week. You know, by Thursday, what's stepped on versus what's still fresh

that you can talk about and what the angles are. So it's a it's a good time, man. It really is. And then we get to kind of what I really hope for the show is that it grows like the Brit version, where we can have on more right wing guests who are actually people that normally wouldn't be on the network, but will come on this show because of, you know, the atmosphere that we've tried to create, where we can talk a little policy, rib you a little bit, but it's still just jokes. Can you walk me through? We actually have our first MAGA congressman coming on,

I think, the week we get back, Tim Burchette from North Carolina. He's a legit MAGA dude. He's going to be a guest. Hopefully a very sad guest after the election, but he will be a guest. I wanted to ask you what you made because comedians are talking about defending comedy and John Stewart says of Tony Hinchcliffe and the thing that

has motivated Hispanics at what felt like a racist joke in the middle of what felt like a racist rally. Where do you stand on all of that because some comedians can defend the right to do comedy even in that setting even at this time in america of course you can defend it you can absolutely defend the comedians right to tell a joke anytime anywhere that doesn't matter them what matters is the consequences of that

he has every right to say it from that every right to hire him but when you go out there and you stand in front of a crowd at Madison Square Garden and that speech is gonna be amplified to the rest of the nation, I think you need to be a little bit more careful with the kinds of material you're doing. If you're gonna call, it's not like showing up at the Comedy Mothership and roasting some open mic dude

for his bad jokes. In essence, you're a surrogate for the man who wants to be president of the United States. So you just have to have a little bit of care and tact and thought about what you're doing. Now, if that's what you're doing, if you're echoing his message, which in fact, Tony was doing, then have at it, but at least be prepared for the consequences. I'm fine with it with Trump hiring him and I'm fine with whatever he wants to say. But buddy, I mean, there's going to gonna be blowback just get ready for it

that and I think that's the that's the issue too because When you look at a face of like comedians comedians want freedom from consequence Everybody wants freedom of speech, but they don't want any consequence on the other side of it And I think comedy in a non comedic setting is always gonna have stuff interpreted differently. I don't know Hinchcliffe on a personal level, like he's not a guy that I could text on a day to day, but I'm willing to bet, because I know a lot of roast comics,

they don't believe half the shit that they're saying when they're saying what they're saying when they're joking on a dais or the comedy Central Roast or whatever. Like, Greg Giraldo, who was one of the best at it, he didn't wish half the stuff that he was saying on people.

But when you say it in a certain forum in this politically charged time, then that's gonna be designated and assumed to be your belief. And I think that's the real unfortunate part of the whole Hinchcliffe thing is that he's going to be assumed to be something top to bottom now

Because of where the jokes were told Do I have it wrong when I ask you guys and I'll let you go on this note and I'll direct it toward you Michael you guys seem to exist in a bit of a fray from a different generation over this podcast group of people like hinge cliff that have found aane and may not have exactly the standards you do or the history and perspective you do because they're they're doing things a little bit differently than you guys are you guys don't exist you guys are gone to a traditional mainstream outlet to now do your comedy and your politics these guys are not doing it that way where do you

guys fit watching the rogan guys come up as on the day that Rogan's endorsing Trump? I'm fine. I'm fine with what with comedians doing whatever it is. They want to do however they want to do it I'm totally fine with that. I don't care if Dave Chappelle is out there saying anti-drans garbage I don't care if Tony Hinchcliffe is out there saying anti-Drans garbage. I don't care if Tony Hinchcliffe is out there saying anti-Puerto Rican garbage. I don't care if Joe Rogan is endorsing Trump. Like that is the beauty of this nation and those of us who are in this profession

celebrate the first amendment like nobody else because our livelihoods depend on it. That doesn't trouble me. And I'm not saying I had any higher standards than anybody else. I've made the crassest, grossest, most horrible offensive jokes in the world. that doesn't trouble me and i'm not saying i had any higher standards than anybody else i think the crassest roses most horrible offensive jokes in the world i think all of that's fine

what matters is as we were the same was context situation in at least being responsible for what you're saying if you're gonna say something horrendously offensive at least be able to back back in at least be able to defend the joke. For Tony, his reaction to it was, it's just a joke, change your tampons. I'm sorry, that's not a very persuasive argument for why you should be taking a dump on an entire people who have done nothing in the context of what you're talking about and people

who Trump has been attacking for eight years. So yeah, what Roy said is, right, you want freedom of speech, but you don't want freedom of consequences. I mean, but you're not willing to have freedom from consequences. Okay, like I don't have a problem with anybody saying anything, just be prepared. Gentlemen, thank you.

The show is good. Have I got news for you. Saturdays at nine p.m. Eastern on CNN and streaming Sundays on Macs. Good talking to you. Thank you for making the time. My pleasure, let's get this Indiana thing sorted out, ASAP. Yes, finally we can talk about what Jessica's been waiting

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