The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Storming Out of Tribeca

Episode Date: June 15, 2023

It's time for us to stop blaming video for all of our problems. David Samson is here for the Local Hour, and it's a doozy. Dan has new career and marketing advice for Nikola Jokic that Jeremy loves: E...mbrace Gen Z. Then, Mike Ryan has an emotional breakdown and abandons the show after Dan kicks him out. Plus, David gets to some current events including the Athletics potential relocation, teaching others how to lie, a cowboy hat, and to tell Dan a story about Tribeca Film Festival that gets Dan to threaten to fire every Meadowlark executive. Also, how 'bout them Marlins? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertar Show with the Stugat Sputcast. David Samson is not yet there. We don't know his whereabouts. We forgot until the countdown of five four three two one The David Samson was supposed to be here What are you making sounds for? I've never been late in my life. He said that to me. Ah, he does seem to be late I'm guessing he was on time and
Starting point is 00:00:38 No, no, no, no, no, you know what? Can I slide? Yeah, you know what? You know what? I'm gonna what to be I'm gonna put a stop to this enough Nope, nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You should be ashamed of yourself. You've created this environment where everyone feels relaxed enough to blame video. No, we're gonna put blame where it belongs. David Samson. Where is he? Bring him out. I'm not sure that it was his fault, David Samson. Or what time were you ready to go when this segment was supposed to start a few seconds
Starting point is 00:01:18 to go live? Can't even hear. All right. This audio doesn't work. Classic video. That's video's fun. He's good at it. He's good at it. Not big deal. No video. That's video's probably. He's muted himself. Not videos probably.
Starting point is 00:01:26 He's bad. That's on him. You guys see how quickly everyone said all video, video, video. He's muted. I see him. Muted. Did we not know he was muted when video was checking him in? I think he just muted himself.
Starting point is 00:01:39 David, are you late? I've been here the whole time. Yeah, he muted himself. How long have you been there? 8.54. Okay, and so is it? Yes. Yeah, he muted himself. How long have you been there? 8.54. Okay, and so is it? Yes or no, videos fall. I'm not going to blame anybody.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Maybe Mike. Maybe Mike can't believe that it's time that I'm back for Thursdays. Yeah. Welcome back, incidentally. Was he banished? Mike, had you banished him? You, because he hasn't been on.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And did you tell him he was banished? No, I just said we shouldn't have you on this week because there's a lot going on. But look, David Samson's found a way to double his amount of appearances on our show in the middle of all of this. So I don't really understand the way. I found a way. Mike, if you do not appreciate the content, it's no problem.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I'm more than happy to get out of the chair. I appreciate the content. I just don't think we should come out the gates on Thursdays during the Stanley Cup final and the NBA finals with the former president of the Miami Marlins. I think there's a place in time for that. Like right now, those finals aren't going on anymore. Welcome back. How about those marlins? What do you call a mean? A mean is talent on the show. Thank you. That's all I wanted to know. He's here. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:46 He's part of the ensemble. It is awkward. Mike Ryan has been awkward for a bit here. Why are you guys coming to me? I'm just still here for a minute. You know, I've finally been 20 years, Dan. 20 years. I've been enjoying doing the show less and less
Starting point is 00:02:58 and you guys are putting me in a terrible position at the start of every show. How about you guys come up with your own content? Don't just go obnoxious, homer, mic, what are you doing? You set a table for me, and it's just like, I'm in a losing proposition. I'm here, spinning all these plates. I fall on the sword for television,
Starting point is 00:03:16 you tell me I'm an A-hole, I'm up to here. I'm up to here. I'm up to here. I know, but I'm doing a lot. All right, I sacrifice my own career to be back in this chair and elevate the show to new heights, and I'm doing a lot. All right, I sacrifice my own career to be back in this chair and elevate the show to new heights. And I'm being totally disrespected
Starting point is 00:03:29 every time I sit in here by a bunch of people that don't get what it is I do. Why are you turning into Trump? You sacrificed your career or you built your career. I sacrifice my career and personal development to sit back in this chair. And all I get is disrespect as soon as we crack open the mics. Go on carry on with the show. Marlon's How to Start Since 1997. Your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:03:50 No, don't I'm not interested in those thoughts and you can back off a little bit here because you complaining about like to back off well a lot. Well you can't why don't you go now? Yes, go now. Go right later. Yes, right later yes go thank you yes you're welcome uh... christ comes in the city comes in the city yes doesn't it defeat the purpose of the penalty box when the person wants to go well that's fine and in but they never do actually want to go because they all linger and stay around and then eventually go but all of what he just complained
Starting point is 00:04:22 about right now it doesn't explain his terrible movie take yesterday. Oh my God. Because he just, Christopher Nolan, this is where Mike's ego is, Hollywood producer guy, Christopher Nolan has to show Mike something now. That's where Mike is, his metal arc media is head of, I'm burdened by this job. He's yokich, all of a sudden, except also embittered.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I have big burden on Mike having to run this closet shit show. Paid Mike like Yoke itch would he still act like Yoke itch? I mean I imagine paying a guy $200 million and having him act as though he's being put out like he demanded a private plane. I love Yoke itch and what a game what a to say, hey, I better get a private plane from Cronkey so I can get back to Serbia to watch my horse race. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Get your own net jets card. Well, David, let me ask you a question because I've been talking about this for the last couple of days. The, the, depending on jet is all right. My thing is, the part of the job as an NBA superstar is to sell the game, is to sell the game. Is to sell the game and winning the title is primetime selling. Is the joy, the passion, the feeling of connection with these fans who pay money to watch and be engaged in the game.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And I think while everyone's like, oh isn't it funny that the Yokeish doesn't want to go to parade? Isn't it funny that he thinks his job sucks? I'm kind of like, always a fun to the yokeish doesn't want to go to parade. Is it a funny that he thinks is job sucks, all that stuff? I'm kind of like, you know, that you're, you're failing the league in this moment. I mean, you're, you're gonna be the only one to back me up on this. And this is gonna be a situation that we've had on this show with the two of us before. Because we've actually done it where others have not. Do you believe that all of your basketball players like playing basketball? No. No.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Right. Isn't that an unbelievable thing? People don't want to believe it. Their baseball players left and right, always rumored that Geter didn't watch baseball or like baseball happens to be true. And that's to me, it never bothered me when there was a player who treated it like a job, who acknowledged that it was just a job, didn't have the joy. We just want them to love it because we all wish we could be them.
Starting point is 00:06:27 But it's a job to many of them. More than just Yokech has those feelings. But isn't that the sell job though? Even when you don't like it, you can't actually say that out loud. It's like a pizza person saying, oh, my pizza sucks. Wow. The difference is that the nuggets and the NBA,
Starting point is 00:06:45 they don't need yokets to be the face of the NBA. He's not gonna be the face of the NBA. And the reason is that he's not from the US, his English isn't perfect, and this is terrible to say, but it happens to be true. You want the face of the game, and that's who you look for for someone. Have you ever noticed baseball players,
Starting point is 00:07:03 the majority, the great players who don't speak English, they're all in commercials where they don't talk hard to be the face of the game when you're that. And Yokech, just that's never been him. It's Mike Trout, did it in Major League Baseball. He actually said to Rob Manfred, I don't want to be the face of the game. I don't want to do these commercials. Don't bother me. No, Sam, I've got the, I've got the move for Yokehitch. Cause Kishon Johnson is on television still ripping the MVP saying he's a potato. I don't want to watch all of that. Calling him a potato is great. He's a sponsor potatoes.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Well, this is what I want to go. This is the path I want to go down. He is writing fictional like anti-Ted Lasso comedy writing with, I don't know where I put the finals trophy. I just want to go home. Stop bothering me with this parade shit. And I'm saying lean into that. It's a different brand than anyone's ever had in the sport. Just go full on in on I am Gen Z. I have a different relationship with work than the rest of you. I'm going to sell loaves of bread and potatoes because I'm going
Starting point is 00:08:03 to be boring on purpose. And my whole commercial campaign is not gonna be flying over people. It's gonna be, I don't wanna be here. It's paying me my money. I'll sell you potatoes. My brand is, I'm gonna dominate you, even though I couldn't give a flying bleep about your sport.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I'm just gonna run roughshod and buzzsaw all your sneaker salesmen. Except you won't sell that. You won't film that commercial. That'd be fun if you were in on the bit, except to him it's not a bit. So how would that work exactly? I just ramp it up is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Just keep ramping it up like, but without him. But without him. Man, Michael Jordan wasn't that interesting. Nike made him that interesting. Michael Jordan just went along for the ride. But what David is saying is that Michael Jordan went along for the ride. No, but maybe he's got a sense of humor about it.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Hey, we've got a commercial campaign. It's not as stupid as all the other ones. Nobody won't do it. That's the whole point. Michael Jordan showed up to every commercial shoot. Yokech wouldn't even show up. That's why there's no commercials of selling potatoes or whatever it is. He wants to go drink beer. I noticed that his brothers were happier that he won the title than he was.
Starting point is 00:09:08 So that's what's perfect, right? Have his brothers celebrating, have video of him on his horses back in his homeland, have him drinking beer, not paying attention to any of it, not caring. You're right, Dan. Gen Z will eat this up. Like for me, I'm on that same borderline as Yokeuches between Millennial and Gen Z,
Starting point is 00:09:25 and I love that he doesn't like his job. It's amazing. Unbelievable. I've never seen anything like that. I'm just imagining him waking up the morning of Game 5, just like, oh, that's more.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Gotta go to work today. How can I get out of this? I think he woke up saying one more. I think he woke up saying the gentleman sweep. He was annoyed that it was a gentleman sweep because it cost him a couple of extra days. And it's the perfect level of motivation, right? Because we saw like when LeBron cared so much, it became this big emotional hurdle every single one of these games. He's physically and emotionally exhausted at the end of it. There's a reason Yoke doesn't look exhausted. It's because he doesn't really care emotionally.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He just cares physically. He wants to be done exhausted. Doesn't he always look exhausted? What are the chances that it's all a bit? I wish. He'd be the funniest comedian in the history of sports. First of all, Chris, I think that's an excellent idea. I think the whole losing the finals MVP trophy is that.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I think that's has to be a bit. Oh, I don't know where the, oh, shut up man. He sees that like the one where it's like, oh, the, the, the parades on Friday, like that went viral. He's probably like, I could lean into this little bit here. It's such a good character. No one's ever done it, Samson. You got all these guys, Conor McGregor, everybody else
Starting point is 00:10:37 making money with their mouth. This guy's got a gold mind around. I'm going to create the brand that dominates you even though, no, it's not just do it. I'll do dominates you even though no it's not just do it i'll do it if i have to it's not just do it from nike it's must i do it okay i'll do it if you insist okay i'll be all of the sneaker sales guys were hold on we're leaving out a very important person who also has this lane and had this lane before you
Starting point is 00:11:02 could chat this lane coilenter the quiet guy uh... yeah he doesn't want to neither, but he wants new balance commercials and uncle Dennis wants does he want those new balance? I've seen them. They look like she shows up for them. And he also loves basket ball. Like he watches old highlights. He cares. Yokeh. It doesn't even like the sport. He doesn't care. Well, that can't be true. That part can't be true. He doesn't like the sport. Oh, you love the sport.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Does he care about the history? Does he care about many of people who don't like their sport, actually? That's very possible. He may not even like playing it. He certainly doesn't care about the history of it. Not that it's, he doesn't appreciate it. But I don't think that if you asked him about Parrish Bird and Mikael, I think that he would look at you like your debating
Starting point is 00:11:46 the 86 Celtics versus the 23 nuggets. It just wouldn't even occur to him to spend a minute doing that. Sam, so we're going to come back with you. Stay there for a second. Be on time. Make sure that you have everything unmuted that needs to be unmuted. We will see where Mike Ryan Y por eso, yo me he hecho que tienes que ser inmune. Y si se vea donde me quedo, es emocionalmente. Él es frío, el trumpting, el swampo, donde he tenido que resorcharse como un último resor de contento. Voy a dar a tu su suerte Harry Belly. OK, es el último de mi dignidad.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Voy a ver si el mic es para el próximo. Hola, alguien me escucha, necesito ayuda. Estoy en Barcelona y las criaturas están por todas partes. A raíz, ¡blook! ¡A raíz! ¡A raíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! ¡Araíz! Mireis, chiquete y seguir convido. my question there or no. No. Okay. Very good. This is the Don't let but our show with this two guys. I believe that we have broadcast an emotional breakdown today and for the last two months. Like what has happened to Mike is sports. Sports are over though. I know. No, but it's just you have to understand like, cook. Come on, man. Sports are over though. I know. No, but it's just you have to understand like, cook, come on, man. You are, you're, you're going from arena to arena, emotion to emotion. For two months, all of us have been doing this caring unreasonably about this thing that Joe Kitch doesn't care about at all. But this thing you didn't care about.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Jeremy still has the heat winning the series, by the way. Yes. Yeah. Jimmy Butler still going to microphones and saying, we will win the next one. We will absolutely win the next one. The Marlins are off to the best start since 1997. I want to talk baseball and Oakland A's with you because what is happening with them is heart breaking. If you're emotionally connected to sports in the ways that we're talking about here because Oakland, the Oakland A's have brought a Lot of joy to that region, but they've broken baseball there and 27,000 people showed up the other day
Starting point is 00:14:15 To complain and chant and moments of silence because they respect the history of the most historic sport in America David your thoughts on what just happened recently, it seems more real Vegas today than it did yesterday to me, but I don't know the ins and outs of business and when I'm being lied to by press releases. Well, you're definitely being lied to. So is it more real because there's state money now for a ballpark?
Starting point is 00:14:41 I want to give you one thing to think about and we can make this two segments or zero segments. There is no ballpark that can fit on nine acres of land that has a retractable roof. That's the start and the end of this discussion. But if you want to keep going, there's no approval by baseball to relocate. There's no financial plan of what the A's would be doing in Las Vegas for the owners to vote on. There's no TV deal. There's no set private financing for John Fisher for his portion of a stadium in Las Vegas. All that happened is the framework of the public part of the public private partnership for a stadium in Vegas. That's all the special session was. That's all the special session was,
Starting point is 00:15:25 that's all the public money is, but it's step one of 50. And yesterday, last night, the A's released a statement that I went into detail on on nothing personal today, but I'll sum it up now. A statement that merely said, when the governor signed this into law, that will be a good
Starting point is 00:15:46 next step. And that's all it is. So the boycott is not relevant. The fact that the team stinks is not relevant. What is relevant is that owners want to get the A's out of the revenue sharing receiver position. They're getting a ton of money in revenue sharing and they want that stopped. What's also relevant is that the owners want expansion money so they can pay off debt that they incurred during COVID and that they've incurred over time
Starting point is 00:16:14 because salaries are too high and so they've got to get Oakland and Tampa taken care of before expansion. But it's not done yet. And you've been saying that for a while is it going to be done? Are you of the belief that the most likely scenario here is all of these public lies somehow leverage Oakland into building a ballpark that can't be built unless there's the threat of them moving to somewhere else and probably won't be built even with that.
Starting point is 00:16:42 No, I think it could still be built at the Howard terminal. I think that they were closer to a deal in Oakland than they even are in Vegas. The problem is that John Fisher has screwed it up so badly that it's made our effort and Wayne Heisinga's in John Henry's in Florida. It's made our effort look amazing because of everything he's done wrong along the way
Starting point is 00:17:03 from both a PR standpoint and just a practical standpoint of how to get a deal done. I think that MLB needs Vegas as an expansion candidate and to waste them as a relocation is a real disservice to maximizing your expansion fee. And that's what owners are concerned about right now. That's why there wasn't a vote with the owner's meetings that are going on in New York right now because there's nothing to vote on yet. Do I think eventually the A's moved to Vegas?
Starting point is 00:17:31 I'm still in no on that. And I'll be the last holdout and I'll come on the show and admit me a cop that I was wrong. But there's nothing that tells me that a deal to Vegas is anywhere near. But you're basically saying in 2023, I don't wanna stay here too much longer, but give me the bullet points on all the things Fisher has done wrong because you're basically saying
Starting point is 00:17:50 that all of this is just meant to leverage Oakland, that it's all lies, that there's no truth here to anything Vegas related as it relates to the AIDS. I don't know. I'm not, there was no truth to the Marlins going to San Antonio. There was no truth to the Marlins going to Vegas because we were told by Bud Sealing before we even met with the mayor that he wasn't going to allow a team in Vegas. So there's no truth to us moving to Portland. We wanted to stay in Miami.
Starting point is 00:18:17 That was pure leverage. The A's have a problem. They need a new ballpark. It's not going to open in 27. So I do think that there is some truth to the possibility of Vegas, but John Fisher, going parallel paths is what you're supposed to do. And he chose to turn his back on Oakland, and even including yesterday, when he wouldn't even address the media who wanted to talk to him, I could have given him five talking
Starting point is 00:18:42 points that he could have told the media that would have started to repair the relationship in Oakland and helped the relationship in Vegas. And all he said was thank you to all the people in the Senate and the assembly for getting this bill passed. And it wasn't even attributed to him. It was just a blanket sort of ordinary PR statement release. It's just sad to me that they've made these mistakes when we work so hard to pay the path to show people how to do it. To lie better than mistakes. You gave your offended that the blueprint you gave them to lie better hasn't been executed more competently. It's horrific. We
Starting point is 00:19:20 we told them how to do it and I learned from people before me. How do I? How to leverage? How to make up stuff in order to get more public money? We had it. We had it and we gave it to them and they've thrown it all away. That's a good podcast name. How do I?
Starting point is 00:19:39 I mean, Samson gave them a blueprint that would have worked. It worked in Miami and it shouldn't have worked in Miami. David, who gave you the idea to wear the cowboy hat? Because that was me. That's just like boots too, right? How ridiculous did you feel putting on those boots in that hat and going full professional wrestling character? I'm the guy selling the team.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Well, you know it required me to get to our broadcast partner, to tell them where I was sitting, and for me to sit in a place where the camera could get to, and knowing when it would be on camera, and then being able to make sure that that was done. So it was staged, of course. And did I feel weird as a 5-5, 125 Jewish guy wearing a 10-gallon hat and shoes that didn't fit? Never wore the hat again, never wear the boots again because it's just in silly. I'm not that guy.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Did you have the little ballo tie as well? I don't remember. Did you do the little butt? Were you thinking about doing the little ballo tie? You considered it. I couldn't get Jeffrey to expense that. No. I got the hat in the it. I couldn't get Jeffrey to expense that. No. I got that hat in the boots, I couldn't get the thing.
Starting point is 00:20:49 He's like, you'll never wear that again. I said I'm never gonna wear any of it again. That can't be true. You didn't have to put in expensive counts that were denied for things that are $12. Yeah, how much is a bullow tie cost? That can't be true. You'll never wear that again.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I will never wear anything again. I still have the cowboy hat and I actually have a 10 feet from here. Go get it. Go get it. Go get the go. I have to leave. That's okay. Go ahead. No go ahead. Go get it. I want to say. Well, please. No, that's fine. We'll talk when you're when you're gone. We've got plenty to talk about here because what I also want from him when he gets back is top five stupid things. The former owner of the Marlins made him question him on if you're talking about, you can't expense a Bolo tie. Like that's how close he's watching over your every expense.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And you say I'm gonna buy a hat, I'm gonna buy boots, but I can't buy a Bolo tie. And it's just because you won't wear it again. I love that it's that detailed. It's like I would do this And it's just because you won't wear it again. I love that it's that detailed. It's like I would do this for the bit, but you won't wear it again. It's a waste. We got a case coming up here.
Starting point is 00:21:50 It looks like a Stetson hat, and those are like maybe a thousand dollars sometimes. It looks like the bottom of a Christmas tree is what it looks like. It's a base of a Christmas tree. Wow. It's so dusty by the way. Okay, so why do you have it in such a pristine case
Starting point is 00:22:04 because it's like a whole. Because I'm David. He might wear it again, okay, what so why do you have it in such a pristine case because it's not because it's like a I'm David. Okay, you might wear it again, Dan. That's why okay, okay Wow, that is a It's a two gallon hat is that the only is that the only cowboy hat you own I do you wear it again Of course it's the only cowboy hat I own David let me ask you a question have you ever watched Eastbound and Down? No, but I do like Danny McBride. Oh, good. I watch it. You got to watch it because if you like Danny McBride and it hits a lot of
Starting point is 00:22:36 baseball things in there. So I was just curious what your reaction was to it because it took Danny McBride. No lie, a year to learn how to throw a baseball one year and he still threw it poorly that's what David's like it what David's going to notice in the movie is how bad the baseball is that's what is biggest objection is going to be all right why are you so many pillows because your director makes me sit in a way that I I'm so many pillows that I have to like catapult myself back into the chair. I'm sweating right now.
Starting point is 00:23:08 My hair's messed up. No, leave it on. Leave it on, leave it on, please. Can we do the top five stupid things that Jeffrey Laurie had did in terms of cheapness making you expensive Bolo tie? Can we do, do you have five items like that? Because that's absurd that a president of a baseball club would have to worry about a $20 expense.
Starting point is 00:23:29 It's he wasn't cheap. Let me just say that he did things for players. He wasted money on players. I can give you the top five wasted things that we did for players and for me from expenses where we would. he allowed us to go to California twice a month to get a TV deal that Derek Jeter crapped on. So it's not that he was major. We had people, I had to fire someone for expense abuse. So it was a big thing in our company.
Starting point is 00:23:57 What was the most abusive thing? No, no, it's too guttural. Yeah. What was the most abusive expense? We fired someone who basically expensed a wardrobe for items that had nothing to do with work. And I caught it because I would actually do random checks of expense reports.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Because that is a huge source. I don't know if you do this in Metal Arc, I hope you do. But it's a huge source of fraud is people, and I mean, you know this from your team, it just happens, where scouts are on the road, development people, or GMs, or presidents, and you can expense things. So we would once in a while do a random check,
Starting point is 00:24:38 like those random TSA checks, where we would get it out, I'd get it from the CFO or from the Accountants Office, and we'd go through, we'd call in the person. And we would do it both to catch people and expenses and also to catch people who were speaking to media. And so we would, we would look at phone records to see what numbers we had, certain numbers plugged in like Ken Rosenthal's number. And we would see which of our people were speaking to Ken as an example. All right, Samson, stay there. I want to get your wasted money list, and I also want to get
Starting point is 00:25:10 whatever the nuance needs to be so I could get the five glorious stories. Don Lebertard. He said while you were off there, while the connection was bad, he had mentioned that you have lost a lot of weight and that he admires that. What got into you? Why did you decide? I thought it was all I thought we enjoyed being about the monkey. Yeah. Oh, it's luring again. Okay. The connection is bad again. Unfortunately, back to Magnus. Okay. Back to Magnus. Magnus. And this is going about as well. As if you go. Thank you, Billy again for laughing in my face. Stugatz. I mean, I'm watching. Yes Can you ask me? Yes, we can hear you. Hello. Yes, sir, action.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Hello. Man, I'm really sorry. This is literally the worst way to ever do this. This is burning my heart that this is happening. But if you could hear me, just understand, I'm sorry. This is the Dalébatá show with the two cats. Metal art media is growing with offices in New York and Miami and soon in Los Angeles. The films, short films, a bunch of short films went out and Tribeca was doing whatever Tribeca does with short films over the last weekend.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And we're building out a network for DraftKings. You can find the show now on channel 1168 on Samsung TV plus dot com and DraftKingsnetwork.com. But we're building it out slowly. You have seen over the last two years, the groaning blame video for everything because ESPN had the video part covered. They knew how to do that. We had to figure it out, but we're figuring it out. And now we're coming to you live locally here,
Starting point is 00:26:57 nine to 10 a.m. every day. We're gonna do that during the week. Hopefully eventually we'll get to Fridays as well where we're doing it. And beyond that, it will give you more and more at various times where you're getting most of the show hopefully somewhere and an entire network. 24 hours of stuff from the things that we do.
Starting point is 00:27:18 But as Samson knows and Amin knows a little too well as two of our highest ranking executives executive types executive hybrid types uh... the iran allyship and i mean i'm in this chair i mean i have a and only because i had to kick out the big headed one who's demanding an apology for me he's demanding an apology for me
Starting point is 00:27:41 a what that yes he wants me to say I'm sorry for it. That he'll come back if I say I'm sorry. I don't know what I'm supposed to apologize for. That his head's gotten too big because I run a loose ship and I keep giving people power until they ruin the show because they take it over for two months and I can't talk on my own show. That's what I need to apologize for.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So we're just thinking when people demand apologies and you don't even know what they're upset about. That's an inside joke at least David's still wearing the hat. Yeah, yeah, I've got a media member mad at me Oh, you don't I'm not that mad at you then. It's okay now But you just made an inside it's all right. I mean who was that joke for I mean who the who the who the but you know what go sit with Mike Oh, no, just get out of here Who the bleep was that joke for? Like there's no one who understood that joke except the people in this room, not a person. I'm not gonna come back.
Starting point is 00:28:31 It's like, no. Not a person, get out of here. I need an apology. Yeah, I run a loose ship, as I said. Alip, the short films in Tribeca where I somehow got an invitation, not a plus one, but I did get an invitation. One, they were really good.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So whatever you're doing, Dan, in terms of the power you have bestowed upon people to spend the money that you make because of your show, those films, those stories are really, really good. Thank you, David. You're a discerning eye for that stuff. So I pray how many of them did you see up there? are really, really good. Thank you, David. You're a discerning eye for that stuff. So I pray how many of them did you see up there? Because there were almost 30, there in circulation.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I don't know how many of them showed. I only got invited to four. I found out later that there were screenings for others that my invitation got lost in the mail. But I did see four. But it was the worst part for me is I walked into the screening room and there were reserved seats and there was skippers name, bimbles name, Pablo's name, names of people I'd never even heard of, nothing. I had to step over
Starting point is 00:29:41 people and say, excuse me, excuse me, is that seed taken, is that seed taken? No, sorry, that seed's taken. I'm sorry, is that seed open? And so I ended up close to the first row, neck hurting because that's the only seed that was available. I don't even wanna tell you who I was sitting with because it may upset you.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Oh no, but if that was my wife, I'm gonna set fire to an executive branch of this building my wife was sitting in the first row next to you Oh my god somebody's gonna get fired by the end of the day by the end of the day today. She did not tell me that The reason why we agreed to not tell you you've got a conspiracy Doing it on air good to say you have got to be shitting me let me take a moment of being serious right now There was no reserve seat Back on because I am rabid with rage, but I need to laugh at something so put the cowboy head back on thank you Oh my god, there was no reserve seat for either you, for either me or God or your wife. But I took care of
Starting point is 00:30:52 it. I took care of it. And when it was discovered, people were jumping all over themselves. Take my reserve seat. Take my reserve seat. No problem. And my point was, there should have been a reserve seat, even if not for me, then for her is your proxy for sure. But I managed to make it so it worked out. And she and I agreed that we were not going to say anything to you because you're under a lot of pressure. A lot of people are angry with you. You're running this company, trying. So we didn't want to make things harder for you and I'm going to get in
Starting point is 00:31:28 trouble with her for mentioning it at all. So if possible, I'm hoping she's not watching. I'm beside myself right now because I know I know that those names that had reserved seats that you mentioned that you didn't recognize them. I'm guessing I won't recognize those names either, but I'm guessing I'm paying for all of them. I'm guessing all of those things are... I'm guessing, I'm guessing I wouldn't even recognize some of those names, and my wife doesn't have a seat.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Holy shit, you gotta be kidding me. I made it work, and it was seamless, and she was happy, and it was all good. It could have been a scene. There's no question. Well, I think we just had one of those because this is certainly not gonna go down quite. I would have been a great headline.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Dan Lebitard's wife storms out of Tribeca Film Festival. Listen, we were about two seconds from that eventuality and I needed to get the fire hose out and put out some fires. Now your wife happens to be a gentle soul, so loving, so caring, so understanding. When I had to send the text of my nightmares, which is, please hurry, we have no reserve seats. And I have put my leg in the middle of a screening.
Starting point is 00:32:46 My leg was draped over a seat, turning down others from sitting there. But Pablo has a seat. Oh, Pablo had a primes. You've got to be shitting me. Like I am legitimately this, I have never done this show where I'm staring at you guys just speechless about news that I've received. There have been people who have died like friends of mine who have died and we learn on the air. I'm staring at you guys this can't be. It's been it was way worse than what I'm saying by the way. Way worse.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Way worse doesn't make it better. You got to get John Skipper involved in that spot. Hey John fix this and he'll be like uh we'll get two more seats right up here. I think way worse doesn't make it better. You got to get John Skipper involved in that spot Hey, John fix this and I'll be like I will get two more seats right up here Can I get thank you can you bring those over here? Thank you put those right next to me Liberty fake charming skipper I do believe that you will be sitting right here What did not happen no well? I mean with what you just described is never going to happen again. That I assure you. Can you tell me what your top five list is? Because I wanted to do top five wastes of money that came across your desk.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And I wanted to do top five cheap sort of nonsense that the owner did like the Bolo tie. I'm not ready for this yet because I have a very important question to ask. sort of nonsense that the owner did, like the Bolo tie. I'm not ready for this yet, because I have a very important question to ask. We spent an entire hour doing a Southeast sessions where you talked about how you had to defend my hiring. Are you prepared to continue that defense when the call comes in from Skipper and Bimmel
Starting point is 00:34:24 that I have been excommunicated for having brought this up I feel the same way about my impression am I good? If you guys think there's a result here that involves my wife sitting in the first row of films that we made and Me apologizing to anyone about anything that we made and me apologizing to anyone about anything. Like that's a thing that will never happen for as long as I live, for as long as this company's a lot. I am far more interested in Chris's fate and my fate right now.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I haven't had this together, David. You and I. I haven't proven that I'll protect Chris's future. That's true. Chris, you're actually in better standing. Except that doesn't address my situation. That said, there is reason to believe that I'll be okay, but not a lot of reasons. You want me to protect the job incidentally of the guy who showed up late because he was drunk to the one report that he had on the show and blue bad breath in Royce face and I thought about this after I left and I saw some of the numbers
Starting point is 00:35:28 come across my desk on just what all these things cause. I have no proof that they weren't in a hotel room here in Davy. There was no proof they were in Vegas from the video they shot on our show. It was just it could have been in a hotel room in this building. There was zero proof that they were in Las Vegas, but they were hung over, they were drunk, and they had slept very little, and neither one of them was very good on the air. That's what I paid for.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Dan, where is your desk? I don't have a desk. Oh, you just said it came across your desk, and I laughed because I'm not aware of your desk. My desktop, I'm sorry. Oh, desktop, excuse me, something like that. Can you please give me your list of whatever it is that you're doing?
Starting point is 00:36:10 Number four. Number five, I can't do. So number four. What do you mean? What do you mean? Why did you put it a five? Number five, worst expenses that have ever come across your desk. Number five, expense report related crime and malfeasance
Starting point is 00:36:26 No, this is no, no, that's not what the list was what's the list you said that you wanted the list of the top five things Where we could be looked at as potentially panerius That is not a title for not what I said Let's get through we got 90 seconds be panerius number five a list Let's get through. We got 90 seconds. Let's be panerians number five a list Making Dave Van Horn carry his own briefcase because we wouldn't put games on the radio So we carry to briefcase that was the internet to record games Not allowing baseballs to be given to fans What in their bow? You took him back?
Starting point is 00:37:03 You blocked him? No way! You took him back? You took him back? Hold on, hold on, we'll get follow-ups. Number three, we'll get follow-ups in the next segment. I can't believe that's number four. You were taking baseball's back.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Number three! We're out of time. Number three! It's 12.30. Number three! No suite for me at the owner's meeting. A regular hotel room with twin beds? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Number two. The only team president. Number two. You asked? You asked all the others. Number two. We talk about what else you can talk about. Number two.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Forcing our GM to drive to the winter meetings for Montreal the Boston. Why? In snow. And to save a little money. And finally, you know what, he's not going to be able to get number one out. We'll come back with number one. Stay right there. Number one is better than all of those.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Still wearing the hat. Why were you stealing foul balls from the customers? Yes. Ha ha ha ha. Don Lebatard. We like to call this one a chorus of Owen Wilson. Ready? Stugats.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. This is the Don Lebatar show with this two cats Nah, I'm done Samson protecting the executives around here that days over stop apologizing to me like my wife has to have a seat and try back up like that
Starting point is 00:38:46 No, they get everyone needs to learn about this. This needs to get aggregated in the company needs to be embarrassed like that no like don't there's no problem calling for shame on this company yes this company brings a plenty of it without me calling for it all of you i still can't get mic and me back in the room their protesting their demanding an apology roi and chris went to vegas I've gotten very
Starting point is 00:39:06 little content out of that. They drank a lot. Chris missed his live hit. A couple minutes from a hotel room that may have been Vegas. Long hallway. Chris. Samson you laugh. I can't wait to get to number one on this list because these have been amazing, but please give us more information Were you wrestling foul balls away from your fans in the stands? Were you having security come over when did this happen give me the details, please? No, we were we basically had told all
Starting point is 00:39:38 Security guards down the line and all ball boys and ball girls that any ball in the field of play and we told players to that no balls maybe put into the stands. We did not want to waste them. We used them as BP balls and when players would throw them into the stands, I would be the one who'd have to go talk to the players after the game to remind them not to do that. David. So when they wanted to be kind and create lifelong connections with fans, that's when you made sure it wasn't happening. I still remember lawsuits and I wanted the $7 balls back in the in the back. I still remember when Jerry Manuel tossed me a ball in 1997. Like it is such like a cool thing for kids and fans. Like it's how much I mean our baseball is that expensive? Chris, what is the total amount of dollars you spent to buy Marlon's tickets in the past two years?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Me? These last two recent years? Yes, like $120 maybe. Okay. He's wearing a Marlon's hat. Okay, creative. Did you buy the Marlon's hat? I did, expensive.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That's her expensive. Wait, don't buy it online or at the team store? Lids. Oh, that doesn't help the marlins It doesn't it doesn't No, the only way to help the marlins not even online the only way to help the marlins is by going to the team store at the ballpark You don't get any of those $42 they charge me for this thing 42 What bait not bear one 30th of not 42 And when you buy online on M.O.B.com, that's one thirty-th only. But in the new era store or whatever they call it now at Marlon's Park,
Starting point is 00:41:11 that is one hundred percent. What is one thirty-th of not forty-two? I didn't take that class and I was cool. Ten hundred. Because Lidz is upcharging. So baseball doesn't get the cost of the hat and not the retail cost Samson, let's get to number one here. So I thought you were wrestling away foul balls I thought that you were personally going down into the stands I don't know you look you made mine fest. Yeah made mine fest drive from Montreal to Boston in order to save the plane ticket Like if you're willing to go to those lengths. I've got your wrestling away foul balls from your customers. Number one, number one worst thing you've done.
Starting point is 00:41:52 We made all of the ball boys and our equipment manager patch and sew uniform pants and tops so that they could be reused when they would get hurt broken or dirty during games because we did not want to go over the MLB allocation of jerseys that you get preseason. luchy for just being horrific. It's just amazing. Amazing work. I can't do my friend. Really, just lying to the new guy. But aren't I the guy you want working for you, Dan?
Starting point is 00:42:32 Well, the sandwiches have got to fall. With that hat on, you play commercial. I'm the guy you want working for you. It is a good commercial. The Marlins are off to their best start since nineteen ninety seven they are uh... interesting but are they good
Starting point is 00:42:51 uh... they've won a lot of one run games are they're run differential is not good they run differential they have they've been outscored uh... this season uh... the record was got off all the start of the season they've improved it in the last month but uh... let talk, David, about the Marlins. Are they the more interesting team that, are they capable of doing what you were able to do the year that the Marlins didn't win the World Series?
Starting point is 00:43:14 But when, what, 81? They won 81 games? I don't think I ever had a season where we won 81 games. I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, we won 81 games. We were 79 and 83, 83 and 79. I'm pretty, we went 80 and 82 one time. I'm pretty sure I never won 81 and 81.
Starting point is 00:43:29 83 games, forgive me, you were a few games over 500. So is this team that capable of that? Because they're closer to the braves than they should be, the braves have crushed them. Like they're the braves when they play each other, the braves win by a million runs each time. The way I look at the Marlins, if they can get Sandy pitching to even part of what he was doing last season, that is going to be hugely helpful.
Starting point is 00:43:51 There's two things that we need to look at with the Marlins. One, is they're going to have to limit Cabrera's innings, which is going to be hurtful going forward, but two, their schedule has been soft. Now you've got to beat the teams you're supposed to beat, but they've got a month coming up in the season where their schedule is not easy, and I've got concerns about that. But it is an exciting team to watch,
Starting point is 00:44:13 a rise at the top of the lineup, but here's the real question. Do they have money secreted underway to add at the deadline? Or are they going to pay prospects, which is what we did, we'd give better prospects to not take on money, but to get the player. So how are they going to approach the trade deadline? That's one, two, what do you do with jazz?
Starting point is 00:44:35 Jazz has been hurt this entire time. He should not be playing center field, they're getting production out of the outfield. He should probably go back to shortstop, is he willing to? Does he want to? And is he ever going to become the player who he thinks he is? That is another important question for the Marlins.
Starting point is 00:44:53 But they're a fun team to watch, and it's exciting because with expanded playoffs, they do have a chance at the wildcard. Jeremy, you're with the Marlins all the time. I have not heard what he just suggested, which is jazz at shortstop. Like we're moving around the star of the team because they've got a hot streak and the outfield's playing well. I haven't heard that either. Look, could it be an option? Sure, jazz wants to be a shortstop. Ultimately, at some point in his career, I think really the issue has been that jazz isn't a very consistent defensive shortstop. And for a team
Starting point is 00:45:20 that's going to play a lot of close games. Their feeling was, we don't want to sacrifice that type of defense. It's short for what at the time was Joey Wendell. And because that position has been sort of evolving, it could make sense to try him there. I don't think that anybody who's playing center field will necessarily play jazz out of that position. But David, where you're right is, if they can get jazz back and productive in the lineup and they can get sandy pitching like what he was last year adding to you. It's really what Jeremy is saying what David is saying is the two guys you thought you
Starting point is 00:45:52 could count on this season of the reason that are not better. It's encouraging. I'm not sure they actually counted on jazz. One of the big misconceptions, he's not the leader of that team by any stretch, not popular in the clubhouse. And I'm not sure it's a coincidence how well the Marlins are playing without him in the lineup, without him around. And one thing, David, hold on, you don't know that.
Starting point is 00:46:12 How do you know that? I do know that because I speak to people in the clubhouse. Look, what do you mean? It was an issue last year. I don't know about this season. Jeremy can speak better than I, but David, to what David's saying last year was an issue in jazz. Last year was a problem, but it was because there was quite a divided locker room and in what the type of culture should be around playing around the type of independence that individual players should have in regard to sort of team rules and things like that.
Starting point is 00:46:38 This year they came in a bit looser. They have a new manager and skips you, Mocker, who runs a tight ship in a way that mattingly actually didn't so these players Seemingly have been able to sort of hold each other accountable throughout the season so far You're not wrong David that they have been playing better without jazz But this is a weird sport where individual performance Contributes to the team in a unique way just because they've been winning without jazz doesn't mean that he can't way just because they've been winning without jazz doesn't mean that he can't significantly help to contribute to the winning they've already been doing and hopefully if you want to
Starting point is 00:47:08 talk about like attitude adjustments or whatever there might be which I don't necessarily think jazz needs but if you want to talk about that coming into a team that's winning a lot of games already is the perfect thing to have to stay in line and earn your spot in the lineup in a different way. It's going to be interesting Jeremy, because he's gonna be back, and they're gonna have to figure out what happens if they start not playing well, but it's really because of the harder schedule,
Starting point is 00:47:30 but it coincides for when he's back. These are things the front office is thinking about, you've seen interviews with Kim, the GM, trying to figure out what they're gonna do. They're not gonna trade for Salvador Perez with the royals. They're not gonna take on that kind of money. Already, their payroll is the second highest, I think, in franchise history, so they're trying.
Starting point is 00:47:49 That's hilarious. So you should go out and support them. Go to games, Chris. Forgive me for a second. I just saw that the entire shipping container was distracted by what appears to be a protest in the room where everyone is being served a free breakfast. And it appears that in the middle of a mean
Starting point is 00:48:07 and what might be Mike Ryan's protest as well, that Taylor is holding up a whiteboard, the next fan, and what I would like, Taylor. It's a hundred, it feels like 108 degrees outside. Taylor, go across the street with that sign. And go ahead by yourself with just that sign. Go ahead and march near the, the highway there on behalf of the cause of your with a mean on this go ahead and just be in the street with him yes across the street
Starting point is 00:48:31 they cost the street get out of here your protest can be out there before we let you go David Samson because I want to talk the movie I want to talk movies with you and get your review yesterday on the show Mike Ryan said that Christopher Nolan has to show him something because Mike Ryan didn't understand tenet and interstellar got taken out yesterday unfairly unreasonably. Hey, a great director made a movie about space not impressive enough for Mike Ryan. A great director, Duncirk, and this was not his fault. Jeremy was the one who was blasphemous about Duncirk boring visually beautiful but again Christopher Nolan giant movies makes epic things makes them look real war difficult to recreate well on
Starting point is 00:49:14 the screen your thoughts on Mike Ryan we may hear from him we may not with the controversial opinion that Christopher Nolan has to show him something i'm not going to be adnan and i'm'm not gonna yuck on his yum. I don't understand the provenance of his opinions. I don't agree with his opinions, but I absolutely appreciate his opinions. That said, I've been having a hard time since this whole heat panthers run. I'm having a hard time understanding when Mike is being serious and when he's not, or what's a bit and what's not, or what character he's playing,
Starting point is 00:49:45 or when he's not. But the things he said about Chris Nolan, if he believes them, I'm good. If he was doing it to be funny, or to be interesting, or to try to kiss the ass of different directors, who may be in the metal arc at Orbit, then that's really just a poor choice of content. Yuck to his yum. Yuck to his yum. You never heard that? You never heard that? Have you ever heard, put it on the pole, Judeoat Lebitard show.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Have you ever heard the phrase Yuck to his yum? Samson, we ran out of time. No time to review your movie. We did. Nothing personal if you want to get his movie opinions. The podcast is growing in popularity and he's talking about stuff. Again, I will tell you again and again that no one else is talking about. Nothing personal
Starting point is 00:50:29 is the podcast. Thank you, thank you, David. Yeah.

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