The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: S**t's Whack

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:29 You seem to be blaming him. No, no, I know what I married, but I'm going to blame him for something now and I want your help in knowing how to navigate it. So we signed this big Draft Kings deal and it's got gambling elements to it where we're picking games for people. And your son is aggressively bad at it. But I mean, not just bad at it because he says Trevor Rogers stinks and then Trevor Rogers throws 15 straight scoreless innings.
Starting point is 00:01:57 But yesterday his advice was Zach Galin, avoid him. He's lost it. And Zach Galin's last two starts now, he's got 13 innings pitched, one earned run, and's lost it. And Zach Gallin's last two starts now, he's got 13 innings pitched, one earned run, and 19 strikeouts. I mean, he is...we need to be good at the gambling stuff and his information is bad and the only way that people will win is if they choose opposite what he's picking because his information is bad and then the pick is disastrous. We can't...like, how are we supposed to stay in business that way?
Starting point is 00:02:27 Well, in and of itself though isn't the reverse curse in effect. In other words, whatever Christopher is suggesting people bet, if he's on a bad run they bet the opposite and then they're winning and then he's a hero. Yeah, but that's not how we've been doing it. I like that though. You know, I mean, it's a hero. Yeah, but that's not how we've been doing it. I like that though. You know, I mean it's a method. It's a methodology. You know, everybody wants to pick the guy with all the information who's always right. But if you pick the guy who's always wrong, in a way that's just as valuable, right? I agree. Yeah, oh he picks Zach Galin. Fade him. Fade him, right. Pick the other guy. Pick the other pitcher. Well then why don't we present it that way? Then our audience would be winning. Then it wouldn't be our picks are bad and our information's bad.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Then at least we could be funny. At least we could be self-deprecating. But your take yesterday on gambling information was Zach Gallin has lost it. And he struck out 19 hitters in his last thirteen innings and allowed one run well that's pretty good it goes back to the main and then again trevor rogers our analysis was his e r a has been five since we've known him and then against the rangers twice against the rangers twice he holds them scoreless see i get that though though. That's the beauty of gambling, you know
Starting point is 00:03:45 Part of it is all right. Zach Allen's been on a heater. He's due for a bad start So don't but that's not what he said Well tune in next week to see if the heater continues. Yeah, there you go. He said Zach Allen He said Zach Allen has lost it He used to be good and he's lost it. And then you know what he went with? You Darvish! This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Zaslow, beloved new member of our weird family here. When you hear Chris Cody and
Starting point is 00:04:24 Greg Cody argue like that during the break and feel the tension as you sit between them, a lot of people think that Chris is very mean to his father on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody, aside with his father. What do you experience? Because you've often said that you don't know what's real around here and what's not real either. And now you're in the middle of the family dynamic and you just saw them chirping at each other back and forth. And that will, I've seen that escalate over time into them physically manhandling each other.
Starting point is 00:04:52 They put hands on each other. Yes, they wrestle around and they grab each other's elbows and Greg, and Greg is not to be trifled with here. Greg, Greg. Grab each other's elbows? Yeah, because you're holding your dad back. Greco-Roman. Leverage.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You know what I mean? You're dad, you know your dad, you got to hold him. I'm lotioned up, so it's hard to get me. You don't want to hurt him, you just hold him back. But you just saw it. What you were just witness to, what do you make of it? Well, it makes me wonder if I'm the one who's weird, because at my age, at this point in my life
Starting point is 00:05:25 I don't have like arguments with my father like we're both adults And I just it makes me wonder am I the weird one there that we don't have arguments. We don't go I'm not even asking you about the family dynamic as much as I'm asking you what they were specifically arguing about which is just Chris telling His dad a professional broadcaster dad the microphone put it in front of your mouth he has told him I mean I hear dozens of times every day what's so hard about following directions yeah directions the mic is there's an obsession with microphones around here you're on radio I don't know it on radio! I don't know, it's a podcast. I don't know whether that's common in this business or not,
Starting point is 00:06:08 but to me- Greg, you think you've got it right and broadcasting has it wrong? I don't think anybody is not hearing me right now because I'm two inches back. Oh, I can't be two inches back, I gotta be like this. Well, we've angled it differently, now it picks it up more. Can you imagine he's on television?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Oh, it's a session with cameras. Yes, that's right The camera see the camera moves the camera follows me the microphone doesn't I think that's an issue with the technology of this whole business None of our cameras move and the microphone doesn't need to come to you. You need to come to the microphone Broadcasting doesn't need to come to you because you're reinventing it. You need to come over to where broadcasting has been. Maybe it needs reinventing. You know, the cameraman, there's a word, a phrase called the cameraman, you know, he swivels. There are no cameras. There are not. There's no one swiveling in here. The cameras don't move. Okay. Greg, there's a difference between being heard and being heard clearly and when you go backwards
Starting point is 00:07:06 You're not being heard clearly that's real reprimand. Yeah, that's real reprimand from our sound guy How often do you ever stand down? Do you ever concede? You know, I got this wrong No, I do let me ask you greg are you growing a mustache or have you just shaven poorly the last few days? I'm cultivating what is a potential mustache. I wanna get into the number of things that we have going on locally because there are a lot of them, okay? Put on the back burner,
Starting point is 00:07:36 Messi's amazing goal and Zlatan saying last week that he plays with statues. Yeah. And there wasn't a compliment to like, you know, picturesque, statuesque players like Ronaldo. He was saying, no, these are players that are just statues. Put that off to the side for a second. Put the Marlins' 10 straight wins on the road
Starting point is 00:07:58 off to the side for a second. Put the Dolphins and Asante Samuel Senior in what he had to say, which was a rip job coming from a football name that has some clout that you don't often hear directed at Dolphins management and taking personal shots at Dolphin management. I want to start with what I thought yesterday was the appropriate amount of enthusiasm for a local show for the Norman Powell trade where we immediately made fun of the name Norman Powell and how hard it is to
Starting point is 00:08:29 be a great athlete when your name is Norm or specifically Norman it's hard and Chris Cody underestimated this person based on only his name a Norman can only be so intimidating and and we we said it was a good trade and I thought showed the proper enthusiasm for the heat getting better without losing anything intimidating and and we we said it was a good trade and I thought showed the proper enthusiasm for the Heat getting better without losing anything of value clearly getting somebody on a everybody everybody watching basketball would say that Danny Ainge did what he does and the Heat wins that trade because Norman Powell is a very good player on an expiring contract that's what you want
Starting point is 00:09:02 the enthusiasm has now climbed to a place though where Zach Lowe is already willing to say that he knows that there are only three teams better than Miami in the East and Boston is not one of them. It's Cleveland and it's Orlando and it's the Knicks and that's what he says the only three he knows which is now after this trade what that suggests is the volume is being turned down from flames engulfing pat riley to wait what there are four seed you guys are going to try and talk yourself into the enthusiasm of norman powell makes them a four seed and so now this excerpt from greg cody's column today
Starting point is 00:09:39 the miami heat one monday's three team nb a trade with the clippers and jazz and it isn't open to debate. Pat Riley sat at the poker table, picturing him in dark shades and never smiled once until he stood up with all of the chips and a needed reminder of that familiar old mojo, the godfather is still around, still able to pick your pocket. That's correct. I stand by. I stand by. He got you back. still able to pick your pocket. That's correct. I stand by. I stand by.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, but you made a- He got you back. Yeah, but you made it a mafioso who is now just taking nickels out of your pocket. Like this isn't like, a pickpocket is not like, a pickpocket is the appropriate way to appraise this trade. It was a pickpocket win on the trade because the trade worked for them both ways.
Starting point is 00:10:23 It got them a quality player who makes the team appreciably better and they also got rid of dead wood. It would have only been better had they been able to divest of Terry Rozier as well. I want to hear from Mike and Zaslow on this because I think pickpocket is good and and the problem is that Mike and Zaslow want only a heist. Like in terms of what they want from the Godfather and the crime family, they don't want pickpockets. Falsehoods.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I wanted what we saw. Congratulations to Nick Harrison, brilliant trade. What do you mean congratulations to Nick Harrison? Well, I mean, Dan, open the door. I don't know who's in charge anymore. So let's, before we give the Godfather all the credit, this could have been a Nick Harrison. All five of them, good job.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It was a great job. Heat Brain Trust, that's all we wanted. A move to get better. And look, look inside this Eastern Conference. Now you have Zach Lowe saying now it's a rhetorical trick, saying look, they're the four seed now, went over the last four years. I think the difference between the four and 10 seeds have been one and a half games. But that's just Zach Lowe though, giving it, that is Zach Lowe not moving in the last six months off of his position that if you give the Heat a little bit, they will ring the very best out of it.
Starting point is 00:11:31 It is a, it's a league wide fear that he's expressing based on respect for what it is. Especially on that network, no doubt. But that, that is precisely why we've wanted the Heat to make improvements because you know you have the greatest head coach arguably of all time. And if you give him more, the results will be better. So I'm glad that they made this move and they got better.
Starting point is 00:11:53 As everyone else in the Eastern Conference started to make moves and look like they had a plan, so I'm really happy with it. My favorite part of the trade, and they got a borderline all star. If you remember, Norman Powell probably should have been an all star last year. They got a borderline all-star like if you remember Norman Powell probably should have been an all-star last year They got a borderline all-star for nothing. Did I need to see Kyle Anderson in my life any longer? No, so they got him for really nothing okay, but the thing that I liked about that trade yesterday It's not that we know the heats mo is to get the whale to get the really big superstar player The move that I've wanted the heat to make is I see these other trades over the last
Starting point is 00:12:27 couple years, like take Indiana, we just saw in the finals for instance, and they trade for Pascal Siakam a couple years ago and it's like they gave up nothing. And I'm like, the Heat couldn't do that? Like I want the Heat to make the trade where they get a good player for nothing. And finally, yesterday, they got the good player for nothing so I feel good about it yeah and one of the things I wrote in the column is that in and might just alluded to it to me they they rise appreciably from play in purgatory to a position where they can compete for home court in the first
Starting point is 00:13:00 round of the playoffs and win a first round playoff game now if your standard is oh they miss out on Kevin Durant, they don't even have a chance for Giannis, they're not a championship contender right now. Who is that? Then that's the the complaining Heat fan. Then you're not impressed with Norman Powell, but if you're looking micro instead of macro, this is an appreciably better team in a very mixed, to me, you mentioned Orlando, to me after Cleveland and the Knicks, it's wide open for number three.
Starting point is 00:13:31 This ignores Detroit, it ignores Atlanta. It doesn't ignore them. You can't ignore. It puts you with, it puts them with them. I still think they gotta do something else, but it does check a lot of the boxes and I actually do think it helps your pursuit of getting a star player. I think that their trade assets now after this move are better. Powell is a player that you can throw into a deal and not Get met with scrutiny and and the ringers of the world saying your package is garbage as a player of repute. I
Starting point is 00:13:56 The ringers of the world. I don't think it was necessary to say it that way super necessary I also think that you will get nowhere in your coverage today. I believe this firmly. I will say it aggressively in any language. No one will say of Norman Powell anywhere in analysis a player of repute. That's only here. That only happens here. You get a player of repute. That is the highest compliment, Pat Riley critic and Mike Bryan, my MBE critic. I went to MDC. Let me just stop you guys a couple of times though. You just said flippantly, Eric Spolstra,
Starting point is 00:14:33 arguably of all time. I was like, whoa. Best coach of all time. You threw the arguably in there, you can't just skip past that, running past that with. Arguably, yeah. Arguably the greatest head coach of all time. Look, I mean that's the top five conversation. Yeah, I think it's weird that he said arguably I thought I
Starting point is 00:14:52 thought the the appropriate level of enthusiasm for this trade is that yes, Norman Powell makes you better. He is a very good player and he was very good last year. He's a very efficient player, but now very good last year. He's a very efficient player. But now you've got $65 million in expiring contracts for free agency and you kept saying, they got a 20 point a game scorer, you kept saying for nothing. I really do wonder how Kevin Love feels about the Miami years. He's voiced it.
Starting point is 00:15:22 The way you guys do that where you just keep shipping him off and calling him nothing again and again. I get it. I get it. I mean, he or his social media manager said, like, I never thought I'd be a math equation. Okay, but so, I find it interesting that it took Norman Powell
Starting point is 00:15:37 to bring the flames down on this conversation. To make it. Just winning a trade. That's what it is. Yeah. That's it? That's how, yes! Well, we've been pounding the table. Something positive. it is. Yeah. That's it. That's how. Yes. That's what we've been pounding. Something positive. Do something. Hey, you did something good to improve the team. Give your head coach a chance. Improve the team instead of standing idly by or actually
Starting point is 00:15:56 making moves that make you worse while your competition gets better. Make a move. Make a move to let everybody know that you're not just gonna stay stagnant All right, the move was trading Duncan Robinson for Norman Powell. Well, that's a that's a that's a big-time upgrade It is a is it it is a big-time upgrade. How does a three-point shooter? Yes, he's a damn good I thought hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on. Norman Powell is, he shot 42% from three last year. That's really good. And he's better than Duncan Robinson.
Starting point is 00:16:29 You guys are just dismissing Duncan Robinson though as if he weren't important to the Heat. Oh, but wait, whoa, you just moved the goal post at a record amount there. You said that this wasn't a better three-point shooter and he is a better three-point shooter. No, he is better. And he's available and he ain't scared. You can't be scared! Oh here we go.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Norman Powell has shot 42% on threes since 2021 so it's over a long period of time. It's seven threes a game, yes. You guys are saying that you have made your team appreciably better and if I started this offseason by simply telling you hey listen, you know where they're gonna go It's gonna be run it back again, but they're just gonna trade Duncan for Norman Powell. You're good. Yes, that's better I don't think you were taught. I don't think you're good. That's a start. No, sir Duncan Robinson to me never lived up to his contract here you have overpaid he was inconsistent uh... he didn't really rise in in in the biggest moments he didn't look at the team i don't think that's fairly as a certain appropriately called out on
Starting point is 00:17:34 this and so if i like look don't go robinson this is a strange thing to talk about because people want to keep up for him as if there were games that he just didn't like he was out of the rotation for a lot of their runs. He got his job stolen. There's a reason why he's kind of fallen out of favor. But don't forget the Duncan Robinson game. There was a Duncan Robinson game
Starting point is 00:17:53 and that run to the finals against the Denver Nuggets. He was your boy. I think game two? And then the one in the gentlemen's sweep that we had, Duncan Robinson showed up. He had big moments in very big games. I don't think we're being fair. Shot for your life. Okay. A real quick comment about Norman Powell. that we had don't robinson's yeah he had big moments in very big games i don't think we're being for a very life okay
Starting point is 00:18:06 k a real quick comment about norman paul last season in the nba he was one of only six players who scored that many points a game who shot forty eight percent or better from the field and who shot forty percent or better from threes that's pretty good i'm not disputing any of this i'm simply telling you guys to please hear yourselves as a national show that is now changed its entire voice because of
Starting point is 00:18:32 a norman powell trade that if we were sitting here the last ten days and norman powell had gone to any other team in the league you would be mocking whatever it is that that team thinks it's become by adding merely Norman Powell, who you now have going, from a play-in team that was 10 games under 500, to somewhere in the middle of the conference where they would have to be 10 games over 500. And if I told you, would trading Duncan Robinson for Norman Powell be that different, you would tell me no.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I don't know if it would be 10 games over, I don't think that's the goal, especially with all the injuries in the conference Conference. No, but if you're the four seed you're 10 to 15 games over 500 if you're the four seed in that conference. I don't know what the East is gonna look like. I think it's gonna be a bit of a mess like it has been the last few years and if another team made a move to acquire Norman Powell for essentially what the Heat gave up I would also be very mad that the Heat once once again, are standing idly by.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Let me give you a stat courtesy of Synergy Basketball. Norman Powell is the sixth most efficient score in the NBA among 68 players who used over 18 possessions per game this season. He shot 45% on movement three-point attempts and 40% spotting up. This is a really good player. He's a good shooter, and thankfully,
Starting point is 00:19:43 they gave their great head coach something to work with Duncan Robinson has been under 40 percent shooting for the last four seasons and you guys both went to Scurred which is the biggest public indictment that you can make because he because during slumps it was clear to everybody watching that he didn't want to shoot so much this is not a theory is that he lost his job because Max Shrews would not stop shooting where Duncan Robinson would very obviously to the eye not take the shots. Oh, I didn't call him scurred,
Starting point is 00:20:14 I'm just saying you can't be scurred. Everybody knows you can't be scurred. But you were, no, you were saying he was scurred. No, I just said, it's ambiguous. It's not, it wasn't ambiguous, it was clear. But he told you he was scurred. No, but he no he told you but I'm not I'm not talking to you I'm talking as ads you accused him of being skirt you did it disagree do you make a ruling here right in the body no yes if you want you want you're the
Starting point is 00:20:40 judge yes you can make a ruling but this seems unfair it seems like a conflict of interest you don't get to decide what's fair not fair in my corner find you out You're the judge, yes, you can make a ruling, but this seems unfair, it seems like a conflict of interest. You don't get to decide what's fair or not fair in my courtroom. I would find you out of order. This is what America's starting to feel like everywhere. You're gonna make the ruling, even though you've got a clear conflict of interest.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Was I calling Duncan Robinson scurred, or was it completely ambiguous? It was ambiguous. With prejudice. Okay. Okay. That's true. With prejudice. Yeah. Thanks, Greg.
Starting point is 00:21:17 No, once you go, they were Duncan Robinson's name and then I heard as the undertow to it skirt. You volunteered it and Mike was so, he was so ready to notarize it back there. It sounds like you're attempting to retry the case, and that's not gonna happen. Double jeopardy. All we have is the results, both the ruling
Starting point is 00:21:34 and the fact that he fell out of the rotation for being scared. Okay, fair enough, I lose, I don't wanna risk contempt of court, but I do have contempt for the court in this respect. Zaslow is fitting in a little too well. I don't know what he brought in here into the room for breakfast. I just saw so much icing on it I'm assuming it was cake. I don't know what Cheese oh my god
Starting point is 00:22:01 You know what it is in my house in the Zaslow mansion? We have whipped cream cheese, okay? But I prefer the block. The good stuff. I prefer the block, and you guys, I love the spread. It's my favorite, I wake up in the morning, I'm tired when I wake up, and the thing that gets me out of bed, there's gonna be a great spread today in the studios in the Elster Hotel.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And I get here, and you guys got the good cream cheese. I'm taking advantage of that. I put a block of that baby on my bagel. I legitimately thought... Icing? From... On a bagel? No, I thought it was a piece of cake.
Starting point is 00:22:34 He thought it was a piece of cake. Simmon roll for breakfast? He eats cake for breakfast. You know what? I won't knock until I try it, actually. Guys, guys, like you guys are missing the point here. I'm clearly shocked with who eats cake for breakfast well Zaslow does because from my eyes with the lighting in here What he had done is piled so high the cream cheese took advantage that
Starting point is 00:22:57 That I thought it was a giant layer of icing on the top of a birthday cake It was juju's birthday yesterday. Hold on a second. Let me see this. I gotta find this somewhere. Okay. And happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. And I thought you had a piece of cake. And it's not unreasonable because it looked like a piece of cake. But did you think I was having a piece of cake for Juju? No, no. Because no one would put that much cream cheese on a bagel is my point. Someone who doesn't get the block of cream cheese very often would.
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Starting point is 00:27:13 Good night. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. The other thing that I wanted to talk to you guys about before I get to the Marlins winning 10 straight on the road is Asante Samuel Sr. on a podcast called, thankfully, Say What Needs to Be Said. What do you think that podcast is about? I don't know. I don't know who hosts this podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I do know we're running out of names in the podcast industry. I do know that I want to hear someone say what needs to be said. And evidently, Asante Samuel Sr., whose son would help the Dolphins right now. Mina Kimes on NFL Live yesterday, spent a whole segment yesterday just saying how terrible the Dolphins are, how mediocre they are, and Mina Kimes just finished it with they've got no corners. They've got the worst corners in the league so they could use a side date now that they've traded jail and ramsey they cannot cover people and
Starting point is 00:28:09 that's not good like that we i don't need to tell you that having the worst corners in the league the hard to come by and they've had that is security the last few years greg you've lived in this town long enough to have this town hate four or five or six cornerbacks we haven't had one of them in the last few years. Right, that's true. Also let's not mistake Asante Samuel Jr. for his father. They're not the same player. Asante Samuel was very good. Four or five Pro Bowl. Senior. Senior, the original. Junior, he's never made a Pro Bowl. He's coming off a neck injury he played
Starting point is 00:28:46 he missed almost all of last season he might not even be healthy well training camp i mean there are you know he's not the b l and all of if they acquire him understood i wasn't saying he's the b l and all i'm saying they mean a kinds is saying they've got the worst corners in the league and this is a weird story
Starting point is 00:29:05 on on a number of fronts one of the corners they would be interested in it would make sense is the son of a man who's going on a podcast that says what needs to be set you find the host of that place because and i do want to talk with you guys what podcast names are still available in sports because i think they've all been taken. Not the hockey show, that's all me, baby.
Starting point is 00:29:26 That's right, that is taken though. You got that space, no one else had the hockey show. Nobody else has the Greg Cody show. I find the hockey show hard to believe. That no one else just called it the hockey show. I feel like someone thought of that. There's multiple hockey shows out there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah. It is hosted by Asante Samuel. Okay. It's his podcast. Okay, it's his, so he is saying what needs to be said. No one else is hosted by a Santi Samuel. Okay. It's his podcast. Okay. It's it's hit. So he is saying what needs to be said. No one else is saying this except fans and Big Mac in the cardboard. It's let's play the sound that
Starting point is 00:29:55 needs to be said that is more personal than I'm expecting from a retired NFL player. What is it? A player of repute. Had no reason to trade Jaylen Ramsey other than they're sensitive. There's no leadership in the door. The Dolphins organization. Mike McDaniels is a pushover.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Chris Greer, the general manager. He has no backbone. These guys over here to Miami Dolphins. They are they are running this team like a little league team No one can stand up to the players. They're terrified of their own players and they have no control over their players That is unbelievable thing to say. Well, so I need to be said Does he think he is Keith Kachuk? You remember that? When Keith Kachuk called Paul Maurice the P word pretty much
Starting point is 00:30:44 No backbone You remember that? When Keith Kachuk called Paul Maurice the P-word pretty much. No backbone, push over, no leadership, little league team, no control, intimidated, terrified of the players. How does he know any of that? He doesn't. You know what? I think there's something behind this story.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And first of all, Asante, the Dolphin head coach his name has no s on the end it's mcdaniel the dolphins had big interest sasso why did you make that face just funny because he got his ass because he got his ass you one-upped him greg thank you the dolphin i'm particular about that if i were named mcdaniel and somebody called me mcdaniels that would be like putting two G's on the end of Greg You don't stand for it you comment on it every time you correct it every time The Dolphins had big interest in his son listen what I'm saying It's tough to tell though like if someone puts two G's on Greg when they say it. It's Somebody sends me an email and misspells my name, you think I'm gonna answer that email?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Hell no! Wow. Okay. The Dolphins had big interest in Junior... I feel like you would answer. Okay, sooner or later I'm gonna be able to say this without being interrupted. The Dolphins had, because this explains perhaps his father's volatile take, the Dolphins had big interest in his son in May, sort of fizzled out the that interest ebbed for whatever reason now a couple of months later
Starting point is 00:32:10 Dad's coming back on his podcast and saying what a lousy team the Dolphins are with no leadership possibly because they weren't interested enough in his son to sign him and possibly because Coming off a neck injury Interest in a Sunday Samuel j Jr. is not flying off the charts. Is it gonna go up though with him? Like is any team now gonna be like, oh, I wanna bring in his sons and he's just gonna do this?
Starting point is 00:32:33 I feel like it doesn't help him anyway, either with the Dolphins or other teams. I would think not. There you go. He talked through the cough button. He talked through the cough button. I'm sorry, I can't do everything at once. I'm sorry, I muffled a cough and and and I said probably not probably certainly
Starting point is 00:32:48 Not gonna help his son's cause. I hear that. You said flying off the charts? Yeah. That's a music phrase. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, like if your song is blowing up the charts you know it's a it it it rose on the Billboard charts from number 38 to number 4. But that's flying up the charts you said flying off the charts. Yeah same thing. Oh okay sorry I didn't know I'm just I'm not trying to nitpick I know it sounds
Starting point is 00:33:19 like it but I was trying to figure out what you were saying whether it was flying whether something was flying off the chal chart off the shelves or whether it was flying up the chart I'm the kind of guy who invents idioms you know I I originate a lot of phrases and sayings that become what well said you fly off the chart or off the handle well those are two different things so you can do both yeah flying off the handle means losing your temper flying off the charts means you know interest is extreme, success is extreme. So you're saying that there's something fishy here with this criticism.
Starting point is 00:33:48 How much are you guys buying on what he's suggesting there? That this is a scorned father in defense of his son. Greg Cody would recognize that behavior. I don't know how Asante Samuel Senior knows anything about the inner workings of the Dolphins, yet I think he's accurate with everything he's saying. Well this is the commonly held belief and it's just because McDaniel's nebbish. So wild the perception change because the first couple years it was like everyone loves it. Players, coach, fun, relatable.
Starting point is 00:34:20 But it's also. And then we have a couple bad seasons and it's no one takes them serious. But physically I wonder how much I don't even know whether these people know what Chris career looks like not that you know I'm not So we're just nerding them. That's what we're doing to them like that We're saying they can't control these players because the players are clearly the players who are also accused of being soft are too tough For this management team and this management team is viewed as soft. What kind of criticism is that? Like honestly in that
Starting point is 00:34:50 sport I understand that people think that the Dolphins are a finesse team because they're a scheme team but it's also the most excited we've been about the Dolphins in 25 years that they scheme their way to something because they had speed for a minute. Like you're not going to try and convince me that the way that they were playing football wasn't the exciting way to something because they had speed for a minute like you're not going to try and convince me that the way that they were playing football wasn't the exciting way to play football here their quarterback got injured they took a chance in a window that was small and now it's costing them some of their name players so they look mediocre and desperate when they get darren waller
Starting point is 00:35:18 but we're just going to dismiss this executive team because the fan base thinks they're mediocre the team's mediocre and that these two guys are our bookworms or accountants I think we retrofit how we feel about a head coach based solely on results and Mike mentioned Keith Kachuck using the P word to refer to Paul Maurice Maurice might be referred to as nevish or a nerd guess what then? Then he wins two Stanley Cups in a row. Nobody's calling him that anymore. Now he's a genius. Mike McDaniel was a genius for one year. Got to be a genius for one year. They scored 70 points against Denver. Then injuries happen. Then
Starting point is 00:35:56 other stuff happens. And now we're calling into question his leadership and the culture around him. Something else needs to be said about the jail and ramsey and say it about how he does need to be said about how he's saying what needs to be said jail and ramsey according to a story in the sun sentinel today uh... was traded in part because he was a real problem last season he was late for meetings he himself was the opposite of leadership. He was undermining
Starting point is 00:36:26 McDaniel and Greer fairly openly, and other players were going along with him, and that became very corrosive. I don't know if Asante Samuel, the podcaster, knows that or not. Darrell Bock Florio makes the opposite accusation of Minka Fitzpatrick in Pittsburgh, saying that he was running a foul of everyone in Pittsburgh so this is what happens when players get traded all of a sudden some more honesty comes out But I before we get to a game that I want to play here with Mike Ryan That that goes over podcast names and thank you for saying what needed to be said. Thank you You said in the middle of what you were saying and you do this when you're feeling yourself guess what?
Starting point is 00:37:10 You're like and guess what Paul Maurice is a two-time champion right that guess what can we make a game around that? Because he loves doing this This is his move when he he's talking down to you listener who thought he couldn't guess what was coming next. Guess what champion two times You hit him with the guess what I bet you there's not a podcast called guess what and I think we should start I think we should start it with Greg Cody because there is you being arrogant you you pointing because you just You what you did is you had the poker hand the nuts there. You're like you talked badly about Paul Maurice well, he's won two straight championships. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Sure, yeah. You're right. I mean, that's unscripted. Guess what? Artie exists. Ah! Damn it! Damn it.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Which leads me to my brand new game. Hit it, Roy! Real podcast or fake? Oh, I like this game. Is it sports category, is it everything? Oh yeah, it's sports. First one up. It'd be like that with Jason Terry.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Real podcast or fake? You throw that name in there and I just feel like it's real. That changes it, right? It authenticates it. It'd be like that with Jason Terry. Real podcast or fake. I'm going to say that that's real, but I'm not going to feel good about my... I'm almost scared to admit honestly that I think that's real. Any other votes? I vote no. I vote no. I'm going no. I don't think it's real. Well, it's the safer bet.
Starting point is 00:38:46 You guys are out here and I'm making the dangerous bet. It be like that with Jason Terry. Not a real podcast. Next one up. Now look at me. Buckets and Boards with Mark Madsen. Real podcast or fake? Buckets and Boards with Mark Madsen. I gotta vote yes. We podcasters love that alliteration.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah, I guess I gotta vote yes too because it sounds real. I can't lie. Last one was fake so this one's probably gonna be real, right? Buckets and Boards with Mark Madsen is real. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Next one. Just How It Is with Josh Smith.
Starting point is 00:39:35 No. Just How It Is. No, there's no way. There's no way. With Josh Smith. No, Josh Smith. Now, is it possible you're giving us the right name, but like it's with someone else, not Josh Smith?
Starting point is 00:39:46 Just How It Is. Josh Smith did not like being interviewed. He's not like talking. There's no way Josh Smith is hosting a podcast He might be but not just how it is Ain't no changing it with Zedaria Smith Ain't no changing it with Zedaria Smith. Ain't no changing it with Zedaria Smith. Real or fake? You know what I'd like to do? Audience, can you make Ain't No Changing It with Zedaria Smith fly straight up the charts right now? Can you make Zedaria Smith confused at his influx of giant following right now because this is a podcast that existsaria Smith confused at his influx of giant following off the chart right now? Because this is a podcast that exists. We're going to show everyone
Starting point is 00:40:29 it exists unless it doesn't. In which case I've sent our audience on a wild goose goose chase. Ain't no changing it with Zedaria Smith. That has to exist. Real or fake? So random. I'm saying yes. I want our audience. If it's fake, I'm applauding Mike's creativity in creating it. No, it's too real to be fake is what I'm saying. It has to be real and we have to support this as MetalArk needs to support Zedarius Smith here. It is fake.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh. Good job on you. Talk on it. You're creative. It's too bad. The Posecast with James Posey. Wow. Real or fake?
Starting point is 00:41:10 Awful. Can't be real. The Posecast with James Posey. Is this a real podcast or a fake one? Swack. Can't be real. Shit Swack is actually a real podcast hosted by Tom Thomas. That was definitely Lewis speaking through.
Starting point is 00:41:30 100%. That was 100% Lewis. I fed the wrong guy there. I could have used Shitswhack. Lewis. Sounded so natural. How did you know it was Lewis coming out of my mouth? Yeah, seriously. The pose cast is real. Oh, geez. So we had, Metal Arch had the pause cast for a while, seriously. The pose cast is real. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So we had, Metal Arc had the pause cast for a while. This is the pose cast. Is it spelled differently or is it spelled the same? Chalk it up with Jimmy Rollins. Oh, that is real. That is real. It is fake. What is Jimmy Rollins' podcast?
Starting point is 00:42:03 He does not have Chalk it up. May thou, we chalk it up. We made it up. The next one. Available on Apple with Michael Beasley. Jimmy Rollins podcast is called the 611 podcast with Jimmy Rollins and Ryan Howard. I mean, but you tricked me. That's not fair that I don't know the name of it.
Starting point is 00:42:21 It is available on Apple hosted by Michael Beasley. There's no way that's real. That can't be real. I want it to be real. I wish it were real. That one's fake. And that is real podcasting. It's a good start.
Starting point is 00:42:38 A good start to a good game. Ain't no changing it. With Zedarius Smith. Aw man. I was so ready to, in fact, I think we should invent that podcast right now. I think that you guys should get together, call Zedarius Smith, put out a one minute episode of just,
Starting point is 00:42:53 this is the first podcast with Zedarius Smith. A trailer, I'm on it. The reason why I thought of Zedarius Smith, he was at the NASCAR race and people were around him saying, no pictures, no pictures. I was like, man, you got got a ball to know who that is Hey friends it's Jerr Bear here and I'm here to tell you all about Boost Mobile which is now a legit nationwide 5G network so I must take a break from the jokes here for a second and put on my
Starting point is 00:43:18 serious voice because I would never ever joke about a 5G network that has invested billions building 5G towers across the country. Not even once. Not even if Mr. Boost Mobile himself asked me to. There is nothing funny about it. Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide 5G network and also provides coverage across 99% of America. Seriously. Visit BoostMobile.com or your nearest BoostMobile
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