The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Stugotz Get Fired

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

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Shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow in it. What a truly horrific night to be a South Florida sports fan. Truly horrific. I will tell you that watching the Panthers lose that way, and I imagine Zaslow is just broken today, I don't know. Greg Cody's about to be here, but he's stuck in traffic, and he is enraged, and you know who he's mad at? Other cars, and he just told his son, if anything's gonna make me quit the Levitard show,

because that's what we need around here right now, it's traffic. What's wrong with your father? He has anger issues, but they come out the most in traffic. I mean, I think that's a lot of us. I'm not angrier anywhere else in my life than in traffic, but yes, he's sending me paragraphs of text today, just angry.

Just steaming, can you read any of them to me? Like, because I just, if anything's gonna make me quit the Levitard show, it's traffic, I didn't put that there. Typical BS traffic today, emergency vehicle in the express lane up ahead. Right now it's estimating I'll arrive at 903. Hopefully it breaks up. I might quit.

Can we call him right now just to get the steaming codey on? And don't tell him, do we dare do this without telling him he's on air? Do we dare? Ah, let's roll the dice. Oh, that seems unsafe. It's my dad though. If it wasn't my dad, I'd feel a little more reckless.

I mean, unsafe, he's writing you paragraphs of text while he's in full on traffic. You think it's safe? I think he's dictating that for the record. He's a big speak to text guy. Surely he's familiar enough with how we do this show that he'd know that we're live. No, he wouldn't. If you called him right now. What do you mean? He's been around the to text guy. Surely he's familiar enough with how we do this show that he'd know that we're live. No he wouldn't.

If you called him. What do you mean? He's been around the show for over a decade. That would be the point of the Shadow Show, right? Nobody would clip this or aggregate it. If he did, we're not doing show. It hasn't started. It's in the shadows.

Call him live and let's just not tell him he's on air and just ask him, dad, you here soon? Just pretend like, dad, we're late, we're starting. Where are you? I don't know about this. I don't wanna hear Greg Cote get in an accident. Let's do, let's just. All right, I'll do it here.

I was gonna wait to do it over Zoom. I could just call him on speaker on my phone. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I mean, yeah, Tinney, that's what the shadow show should be. Tinney. All right, here we go. It's ringing. Hey. Hey, dad, you're late. Are you here? I'm about to turn left on 5th, so I'll be at the valet in like a minute. If the valet can take me soon, I should be walking up there.

Dad, we can't start the show without you. We need you to hurry. You're hilarious. What happened? Like, why are you late? I haven't been hurrying for two hours. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're hilarious. What happened? Like why are you late? I haven't been hurrying for two hours. Okay, I'm hurrying as fast as the traffic will allow me. Just, just.

I'll be up there in about three minutes. Would it be quicker to just get out of the car and run the rest of the way? All right, I'll see you in a few minutes. He doesn't like me right now. Chris almost cracked there for a second, right in the middle of it. Really makes you respect the jerky boys, huh?

I mean, you'd think a father and son would have chemistry. All he had to do there was get his father started on traffic. All he had to do was say, what's wrong? What's the matter with traffic? I think he got him there. No, he was exasperated. He didn't know he was on air and didn't give us the genuine laughter of having to run in here because he's late. Let's

just examine for a moment our general work environment that he would be mad at us because he's late. He didn't sound that mad if I can be honest. He sounded pretty pleasant. He's so good at his job that why can't we tolerate him being late? He did sound... What the trouble? Exasperated at Chris asking, kind of like, what happened? Well, that's because he had texted me, like in his mind, he's like, I just told you for an hour that I'm learning late. So this is the tension though. Zaslow hates that part of Cody so much.

You're so self-important, dude. You're so self-important. Do you know the hurricane that's coming towards you right now, by the way? Why are you familiar what I do? I don't know. I don't know either It's the way you identify yourself. Apparently what as a two-time champion broadcaster you got problem that I don't but some people do All right, some people who are balleting right now. You got a problem with that. We can we can we can take care of that You should have worn your rings today Next time you're on with Cody you got to wear your rings

What do you do? Where are they? They're on my dresser in a very nice case What do you do you like weddings like what do you what do you yeah? You know I was at a Zaslow wedding this weekend really yeah and I I was going to wear it But I forgot but I'll wear them to nice events. Yeah, not both the same time. I mean what am I? asshole I forgot, but I'll wear them to nice events, yeah. Not both at the same time, I mean, what am I, asshole? This is the Dan Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I don't know what to say about Greg Cody not being here. Being late is okay around here evidently

Greg Cody's mad at us because he's late. We're asking him to not be late Everyone else got in on time evidently they were in different traffic I took the same route as him. I'm here and so he oh my god This is gonna be steaming what comes in here right now. No, I can see him in the other room right now He's just kind of lollygag in with his public bag filled with whatever trinkets. You guys ever seen Jurassic Park where they're hiding from the Raptors and the Raptor comes up to the door and it snorts and then looks through the window that's exactly what Greg just did. He walked past the door and looked in the window and I saw his eyeball kind of

pupil dilate. Greg come do your job professionally arrive it's the same time every day roughly and now he's, where do I get my makeup done? In the chair? Out here? Just bring Jesse on in. We'll turn, no, no, no. Let's go. But, Jesse, come on in. No, that's fine. Two minutes ago.

That's fine. No, no, let's stop the show. It's what he's always wanted. He's sore from dancing at a wedding. It's all about him, baby. And so, let him. I was at a wedding too this weekend. I'm here. No, no, but did you dance so much your body hurts?

I danced. Also, he's on a back-to-back. You're not on a back-to-back zest. I mean you act like I don't work other jobs I worked yesterday. So does he all right right Cody show. I'm here featuring Greg Cody on time Just the breathing you mad at us It depends on your attitude. I Love my house at 7. It took me two bleeping hours to get here. You want me to leave my house at six just to make sure I'm here?

No, I heard you threatened to quit. The traffic might make you quit the Levitard Show. That would be an unfortunate ending. Well, what I told him was if I ever quit this show, traffic will be number one on my list of friends. Where do you come from? From my home in an unidentified Broward City I'm in Broward too okay I'm here what time did you leave

715 okay but you're a two-time NBA champion on a two-time champion broadcaster uh-huh yeah yeah yeah I don't miss identify you yeah so you probably have your own lane like it like a Zaslow Express lane matter of fact the Express lanes were closed this morning I still found my way here uh-huh you ever use ways yeah I do use ways all right we got a different maybe got a different version than I do got me here all right like a journalist let's just wait till he gets makeup because I think he's he's so entertaining that he should be allowed to be late whenever he wants to be he He had a big wedding this weekend, his body hurts.

First of all, am I late? What do you mean are you late? The show started. I mean, you could have waited. Why'd you start it without me? We're live. He's not wrong. But we do a live show. To be fair, to be fair, there are one, two, three, four. Hey, Greg, how's it going? There are, what, six people here. We could have handled it without them. We didn't have to bring it to a screeching hall. Do below us, four minutes into the show, greet everybody.

Whose phone is doing this? Please, who's getting the iMessage constantly? Like, who's doing this? It's going off like crazy. Is this my computer? Yeah, I'm getting notifications. It sounds like a MacBook. I haven't heard anything. There's no one texting anything. Don't gaslight off like crazy. Is this my computer? Yeah, yeah, I'm getting notifications. It sounds like a MacBook. I haven't heard anything.

There's no one texting anything. Don't gaslight me like that. There is a noise. Amateur. I'm still not clear what that word means. What, amateur? No, gaslight. You good, Dad?

Put on CNN. Great. He's getting there, he's fine. There it is again! Did you not hear that? Did you not hear that? It was there! It ain't me. I think I just shut down equipment I need because you guys instantaneously write Lee's name because his stuff's not on you. I also saw you panic once and get your phone out of the way when one of those noises popped up. Did you guys hear it? Because I actually- It's there it is again! All right, who's the culprit? Please tell me it's Cody's phone.

No it isn't. No, this is pre-Cody. This noise was going off pre-Cody. I'm like, oh, all right, I'll let it slide. Was it that room? No. I hear it in my ears, which means it's coming from that room.

It's not coming, oh, doom. I've thought it was- This is textbook gaslighting right here. I've thought it was that room too. It's not this room. You feel so good being smug under that mustache. I am not being smug, I'm being gaslit. Still not sure what that word means.

I just noticed the mustache. Let's wait till he gets all this stuff plugged in. I'm sure he's got a ton of basketball thoughts. I'm glad we waited for them because that was a heartbreaking night last night for the this is very unprofessional is that your nostrils that are making that sound breathing i didn't make a sound the florida panther

the florida panthers lose last night and i want to get to that game in a second but the thing that i was feeling last night that i did not feel the entirety of my life that was legitimately confusing to me is i watched an entire nick celtics game i did not know at any point who i was rooting for at the end i just decided i want both of them to lose i can't do this i don't at the end of this game this is wonderfully entertaining a sports and

television and the way i feel about both the nix in the celtics fan base make it so that this game i want the meteor to win i want both teams to explode both teams to lose both teams to get injured both teams to punch each other in the face and play for seven for seven games that are up wildly uninteresting the way the celtics are when they miss all their 53s and ruin the game. Ruin the game because that's what we're playing now. And I watched a basketball game that had legitimate stakes and I cared but only to sort of hate both entities and not want either fan base to win.

And it was wildly confusing to me to have that happen. I think it's in this room. It just happened to me. I've changed my mind. You think? I think it's in this room. You think it's in this room. It just happened to me. You think? I think it's in this room. You think it's in that room? It's happening here. What made you think that?

The fact that all the microphones were off in here and you heard it? What is happening in there? Take all the equipment out. This must stop. I don't think. I think it's you. It's you. I understand.

Oh, if it's this. I don't hear it. If it's that computer over there, someone's getting fired. Who? I don't hear anything. No, we've confirmed. He gave the matumbo finger.

Is it this computer down there? If you want to look at my phone and come in here and tell me if you think it's me, I'm not trying to conceal. Is that big board behind Dan? That looks like a computer. It's a computer noise. Maybe it's that.

It's not a text noise. Do you think if I turn this computer off, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. Well, just mute. I think you have to slam it on the floor. looks like a computer. No, it's not a text noise. Do you think if I turn this computer off? I'm gonna It's not a muting thing it is the sound of a computer that the charge cable is kind of not connected well Oh, yeah, it's not charging and then it's not Yeah, yeah, look heard it again. Maybe it's in the control room and one of their mics is on This is film. I heard it that I heard it and it's control room and one of their mics is on. This is very, I heard it that time. I heard it and it's not anywhere near me

and I didn't touch anything. But it sounds like it's coming from over here. Is it April Fool's Day? So are you closer to understanding what a gas light is? Everybody be quiet, everybody be quiet. Okay, there it is. All right, now it might be Greg. It is!

It's the Stugatz laptop. It's a Stugatz laptop that was on the floor. Not me, innocent. Yes! Yes! The Stugatz is fired. Get that out of here. Greg Cody beats all charges.

I will tell you guys right now and be as honest as I've ever been, I was sure I was guilty, but I didn't know how. So the accusations from the other room made me lose confidence because I knew it wasn't Cody because his equipment hadn't gotten here, but I heard the sound too. But I also felt like it wasn't my fault,

but as I turned things off, I wasn't sure I was turning them off, and now I was scared because we're supposed to be doing a show. Dan, I'll be honest, when Mike first went off, I was like, oh crap, I think it's my laptop. I actually closed my laptop. I think all of us were like, oh crap. I think it's my laptop actually I think all of us were like shit. Why's me? Why were we doing the search?

I quietly closed my laptop like so just because just to make sure but I saw what was happening around me and I felt a bit Framed because because there was a lot of confidence in the room over there and it was I apologize I I kind of blame that room I thought you did but the confidence that was swaying from that room was not any confidence other than a technological one we've got this room beat and and so I liked our hand no it's more likely we framed you than you just made a mistake yes this is the relationship I have with the room and how ready I was to fight everyone who was making me feel a very insecure as i backed away from the microphone almost sure it was me

all that's as much happiness is i've had in four years knowing it was not me but it was you but it wasn't your fault it was us doing it to you uh... well somebody did that somebody put that in here and so that was not me and that was just done to our show So that the Stu gots computer so Billy I'm so forgive me for thinking that you might be an anarchist who would do something to annoy Me I mean a little accountability if it's your laptop it could be but it wasn't but it wasn't my laptop I don't know you still plant a laptop, but you still think that I was responsible for that. No, I don't think you were responsible

No, I I'm not rooting for a meteor in Boston and New York. Are you rooting for injury? Like, what are we rooting for? I'm actually rooting for the Knicks. A meteor is likely death. I'm surprised. I was watching that game, and I was really surprised at how hard I was rooting for the Knicks.

Because see, I don't think the Knicks have a shot to win the championship. But I do think Boston has a shot to win the championship. And right now, I'm actually enjoying the Knicks fandom. They haven't beaten a really good team all year. They're what, 0-11 against the Thunder, the Celtics, and the Cubs. And the Cavs, yeah. So they got their win over there.

They're super excited. They sold home court advantage. I'm enjoying this. In fact, I'm kind of enjoying the Knicks brand right now. And I guess the rivalry is such between the franchises that I hate the Boston Celtics way more than I hate the New York Knicks. So I was actually really surprised

at how strongly I was rooting for the Knicks from the jump. I am 1000% with you. Mike, my hatred toward the Boston Celtics is so far superior to my hatred of the New York Knicks. Maybe even if you took my hatred of the Knicks back in the late 90s and certainly in my hatred of the Knicks right now, maybe if it took my hatred of the Knicks back in the late 90s compared to my hatred of the Celtics right now, it might still be in favor of the Celtics. My hate for them is far surpassed and here's the thing the style of play that the Celtics use it's a vomit it is unwatchable they missed 45 three-pointers last night it's the NBA

playoff record it's the worst brand of basketball and then you look I mean their entire offense it's dribble dribble dribble dribble the blood out the basketball right forearm push-off step back travel fadeaway three-pointer that's their entire offense and the Knicks on the other hand look I'm a sound way sound it's kinda admirable the way they play because the NBA player look two things they love more than anything else complain and not play and the Knicks they play those guys play

they play heavy minutes everyone wants to be critical at the but oh they play those guys play they play heavy minutes Everyone wants to be critical at Thibodeau What a crime to play your best players the most you could possibly play them the Knicks style of play is actually admirable In my opinion, I can't abide praise for the Knicks here I'm I run with them dude all the Jeremy Tash a all the Heat fans kind of feel aligned right here Which is like he's not a fan go Knicks Go Knicks. Iticks totally go nicks totally it's okay to hate both teams right now i thought i did things but when they

played each other i was like well let's go next i mean it is okay but which ones you want to lose more i don't care who wins because i don't like either okay everybody dislikes the champion the boston Celtics was the first team I liked, because I was born in Massachusetts. You know, Bill Russell, Sam Jones, Havlicek, they were my first team.

Right now, I don't care. Everybody hates whoever's the champion. Everybody hates the Knicks because they're the Knicks and because Spike Lee is wearing a Knicks hat at the Met Gala. So everybody hates both teams. I like watching a game where I hate both teams. Can we take...

I either want a rooting interest or I want an interest where I don't like either team. Greg, I'm giving you the truth serum, all right? You're there, you're strapped down, I have a big giant needle. Yeah. And I've shoved it inside your arm with truth serum. It's in your veins. So you have to tell the truth right now. Which team do you want to lose more the next really yeah yeah clearly yeah there's no question about that I mean I I don't when you're over the Celtics that's what that means it doesn't mean I'm rooting for the it means I want them to lose

less than I want and the only way for them to the only if the other team to lose more is if one team beats them you're rooting for the Celtics yeah, but if the Celtics win that series, I'm not gonna be cheering I hope they lose in the next round. I need them out of my life right now Really think I need the Celtics went two years in row you know shit my life Can we take away Spike Lee's? Biggest fan that he went to the Met Gala over over a game one What was that the Met Gala? I know that because i saw a photo of morning and nicks at

are you positive that that is a recent photo because the of all the photos that came from that uh... spike lee could be photographed any year at that uh... they have themes yeah i mean i saw uh... a bunch of photographs from his office lost a link with the m so to gala gal was the p f p Boston gala including him so the Gala or gala well it's the PFPI gala but a law gala with emphasis on the G so not even gala to gala gala it's a

PIP I gala but in other terms most people say gala I think gala I think gala is the sheik confirmed that he missed game one yeah there you go I reported that just now there's a road game those in Boston I reported that spike Lee missed game one for the gala. He went to Detroit Feel like spikes got a hard time traveling. No, I'm just saying if he's a number one fan in New York Do you think they have game on road? I mean Timothy Chalamet reportedly missed the Met Gala to watch the next game. Wow real fan But do you think that they have the game on, like at the wet bar?

I think, I think that if you wanted to watch the game there, you could watch the game there. He's holding his phone on his lap. It's gotta be wild. I mean, let's be real. Once you get inside, I imagine it's just like an empty banquet hall, right? What goes on there?

Nothing. Is it like a show? I think that the celebrities just plug themselves back into the wall, they recharge, and then they go home. Like, I don't think there's anything going on there. You guys, because this part is amazing to me, you do realize that if Jay Williams is on television saying Jaylen Brunson is the best Nick of all time and we can argue it but it gets forgetful of Patrick Ewing, but whatever, we can have the discussion if you want to. I imagine Amin would have some opinions there but that feeling last night

for the new york nicks a team that has not closed out a series in the playoffs at home since nineteen ninety nine i could set out without being prisoner of the moment that that's the best nicks game i've seen in the best the nicks fan bases felt in a quarter of a century last night winning in overtime that's not saying much and you look at their last quarter century bases felt in a quarter of a century last night winning in overtime. That's not saying much. Have you looked at their last quarter century? I'm just saying he's sitting here hating the Knicks and it's an old brand he's hating.

It's not like there's no, he's rooting. What's happening with Zaslow and Mike, I imagine a lot of people are saying, looking at the Celtics, I can't root for that. I can't, I just can't root for them. And he's over here saying to you, I can't root what i remember of spiked lee being on the nix sideline back when nixie matter nobody here's what i'm gonna say to what you just said when the celtics are missing a room playoff record forty five three point shots

well here really want to give the nix a lot of credit for playing a great game i say the celtics choked to an epic degree is that the next word the most fortunate team in america to win that game playing a great game. I say the Celtics choked to an epic degree. The Knicks were the most fortunate team in America to win that game. They did choke. It was a super meltdown, all right, but still down by 20 on the road, second half, pretty impressive comeback. Dan, I think I can explain Greg's position here. Let's say you have a house and you find out that the house has a termite infestation, right?

Oh my God, these termites. Get the exterminators, the termites won't go away. What do we do? Would you rather hear that the termites are still there or would you rather hear, good news, the termites are out, bad news, you now have rats? Because that's what would happen if the NICs start getting good. Right now, the Celtics have been good. It's not a new thing.

They've been good for a few years now. You live with it, it's termites, okay, that's it. You can tell me now I have rats, like, oh, come on, can we keep it to one pest at a time? Folks, listen up. If you run anything online these days, a podcast, a merch store, whatever it is, you're basically forced to wear 12 hats.

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Don LeBretard. Our Panther group chat, we're confident against the lightning. This is a different team. You're a Panther group chat though. No, I think, no, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever. And I think there's a different energy

where the Panthers, they want the lightning. Stugats! I want t-shirts made for this Panther run, what could be this Panther run. Our Panther group chat, we're not afraid of the lightning. That's a tagline for World RaR 3. This is the Dunlavatar Show with the Stugats! Who got? I can't get that fan base much louder. Like I can't enjoy the Knicks fan base success because I've seen how loud it is and how

desperate it is to be good again. These celebrities that the Ben Stillers and the Hank's areas and the Tracy Morgan's of the world, they feel they haven't had that basketball feeling in 25 years in that town. And most of them are old enough to remember that no, Patrick Ewing is the best Nick of all time. Well, no, whoa.

Whose laptop was that? Was that Cody's? It ain't me. Whoa, I had Cody. I'm pretty sure that was Cody's. Here's my volume, look at my volume. Okay. It's not a volume thing. It's a charging cable thing.

Whoa. Who did charging cable make any noise? That's an Apple sound. Greg doesn't have an Apple. I don't know. I am now certain that it is Greg Cody's computer. Okay. I wouldn't frame you.

This is not talking about you. See, you know it's not coming from me. This is a gas lighting. would know it's not coming from this is a gas lighting you know it's not coming from me is the sound the gas light is means a sound no it's you know something to be true and someone tells you to your face that what you believe is not true it's a proper gas lighting yeah so unprofessional what does that have to do with gas or light it's like how you start a fire like gas lighting but then you actually started a fire. You're selling me the whole fire.

It was always burning since the world's been turning. Yeah, exactly. Well put. Oh, Greg loved being, hey, hello Dolly. I loved that last bit. Yesterday, just singing that song my entire life, hello Dolly. If you can, for just a second,

I did, we made a lot of fun of Greg Cody yesterday, however. As usual. I got thick skin. You come back every day. Clearly, yeah, you gotta have thick skin in this business. Thick toenails too. In this business. Stand on it.

You keep coming, Greg, I mean, you go through traffic and all just to come here man I do Show videos of you falling in bushes Well that's uncalled for, that happened a century ago Playing the old hits That's Greg Cody No it isn't

I saw you reach I know it is, it is, it's gotta be You hit your computer there Vet me to make sure it's not me. I don't know that you deserve the benefit of the doubt here. If it's me, I will give you a hundred dollar bill right now. If you can prove that that is my computer... Billy, frame him the way you framed me.

I mean, how is he... I think we could easily prove air quotes that it's him and he won't know. Go ahead. That's correct. Alright. I'll go in there. Grab the cord of your thing. Like, like... My, my, yeah, my, go in there grab the cord of your thing like my Yeah, my go it. No don't touch it my go in there

Hold on hold on everyone hands up hands up. Hold on. That's hands up. I don't trust everyone's hands up Okay, wait a minute you guys so you guys heard officially what the bet is, correct? So so hold on listen to me carefully on what the terms here because he's so confident. He never down his own money he's so cheap he's so cheap and I'm the most generous person you know so you haven't paid a fine in two years whatever we can argue about that later you would make fun you hold hands up did you touch your cards up hand hand hand Mike is gonna adjust his thing we're gonna see if it's his computer. We think it's the cord, we think it's the cord. It's an easy way to tell.

And we'll all find out together whether you owe $100 or not, but before he does this, you are 100% positive that you will not be paying me $100. No, I won't be because my computer's not- Okay, do you have the $100 on you because you haven't paid a fine in forever? You saying you're gonna pay something means nothing I got a wad full

of Benny's right in my pocket there you go all right let's see let's see really but no no what's wait a minute no so are you gonna be good for the hundred dollars which I don't really know Greg that Venmo right are you agreeing contractually right now we will take it out of your next check $100 is the bet well you guys start paying me first No, no, yes, we need cash. I got a check for metal. No jokes. I'm not making a joke direct deposit No hold on please, and I'm sorry I know we're belaboring this and forgive me panther fans forgive me panther fans for not talking about the panthers are welcome to everyone else happy that you're not all right a hundred dollar bet but again you're

going to pay it the kid you words mean nothing i'm sure it's you i'm like and a well email just for the record all of our lives of course it's no so obvious of course so I'm talking about that's impossible what you talking about the cord right here it's loose so I'm talking about how does that make that noise it's your it's your laptop volume is off though it's not it has nothing to do with the volume

It makes that noise even if your your your laptop is on mute They do that so you know that your your device is charging That's crazy, yeah, why don't you do it? Where did Danny it's not making noise. Oh, there you go Wow Wow Where did Dan go? It's not making noise. Oh, there you go. Wow. Wow. Greg. No, somebody else is doing that in there. Greg. No, now this is gaslighting.

What? How can they possibly do it in there? I don't know. Let me do it one more time. So gaslighting. Very unprofessional. I didn't touch it. Damn it.

And you saw that I didn't touch it. Damn it. And you saw that I didn't touch it. You saw that I didn't touch it. He got our ass. He pretended to do it. That was very sneaky. Very sneaky. I think Christopher's out of the will now, right? Yeah, I'm probably out of the will. Yeah.

Yeah, it's all going to the younger son, Michael, YSM. Zazz, so where are we with the Panthers? I feel like consensus in my Panther group chats, there's no panic. Well, I'm in one of your chats. I'm in that. Oh, that's true. You're in that one.

In the main Panther chat that I'm in, it seems like the third period made Panther fans feel at ease with this is going to be a long series. We're fine. You know what, when they were down 4-1, that was not the Panthers that I've seen most of the season and through last year's playoffs. They were awful. They were disjointed.

Bob wasn't. Bob led in a couple of bad goals. The Panthers I saw come back from 4-1 down and make it a game, that was the Panthers I know. If I'm a Panthers fan, I'm not the least bit worried. I think they're gonna win Wednesday night, then they got two at home. No panic whatsoever. Wow. I think if you were to ask Panther fans today how they feel going forward the remainder of the series, I think there's still a ton of confidence. I think if you

ask the Maple Leaf fan how they feel right now, they're certainly very happy that they're up one game to none, but I think they're also like, yeah, that we might have gotten a little bit luckier with what took place. I thought the Panthers were totally gonna come back in the third period and win that game. They were so, like, the Panther fan looks that and knows they didn't play well does the Maple Leaf fan say wow we didn't play well I don't think so I think the Maple Leaf fan is

really pleased that they got out of there with that win the pan I mean set everyone knows Seth Jones my dog he played like a spaz last night all right Kulakov very bad Mikhailov very bad Mikhailov Barkov I mean Barkov with the turnover which led to a scoring chance. Barkov taking a penalty even in the third period when the Panthers are rolling and they make it 4-3 they still went and took two more penalties after that and gave up another goal off a

turnover. So even in their best period they were still crap and they were right there at the end. So I, you know, Dan's huzzahs is gonna be enraged with the Panthers. I'm moderately annoyed right now at last night's game. Also for context, remember how last year's second round started? Yeah. The Panthers had home ice, the game was Boston.

Yeah, they lost. They lost six to one. They got crushed six to one. This is a different scenario because you're just looking to win one, steal home-ice advantage. Your fourth line barely plays last night. They just stopped playing AJ Greer's probably for the best. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Mackie comes back.

But right now the Leafs fans, yeah, they're happy that they won. They kind of feel like they survived one. It also feels like there's no way they feel great. No, which is why they're trying so hard to get Sam Bennett suspended. Yes. So. There's no way they feel great no which is why they're trying so hard to get Sam Bennett suspended for yes so there's no way it appears that so Lars and Chris Navinsky who once joined the show before and charged the Dolphins with murder or manslaughter former WWE superstar yeah Chris Harvard he he says he theorized which actually makes sense that so Lars got concussed

initially on the shot from Sam Bennett or was it Sam Reinhardt that hit Solars in the mask, knocked his mask off because I think Sam Bennett is a victim of his reputation. We know what Sam Bennett is trying to do something. It felt, it looked like a fairly innocuous hit. Solars' mask came off. He barely touched him. I call it a graze. It looked like a dive initially but I think, but but and also there was something behind it toronto those maple leaves players would it when at bennett in that moment it was that innocuous in the moment but everyone now is trying that is supporting uh... the toronto maple leaves is trying to suspend sam bennett for something that

i don't think actually cause the concussion uh... the guy was vomiting on the bench actually caused the concussion. The guy was vomiting on the bench. Something caused the concussion. Clearly concussed, but I don't think it was that interaction with Bennett, the one that everyone's pointing to, that they allege is a dirty hit because they don't want to go back and say, hey, this came out of the run of play.

This was a shot off his face mask. See, that's it right there. That's the main thing why I don't believe Bennett's getting suspended. Number one, if you look at that play, just isolate that one play. That is not a play that gets you suspended in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

That's number one. It wasn't even a play that got Toronto to defend their goalie. Yeah, and again, no penalty. All right, now I understand that Ackblad got banned two games, no penalty. But this, I mean, there's nothing there. The second part is, if they were to suspend Bennett, they are acknowledging

that they allowed a player who was concussed earlier in the game to remain in the game for another nine minutes of real-time. That's what they would be acknowledging if they're going to suspend Sam Bennett there. There's no... I'll go as far as to say I don't think they're gonna even have a hearing. Well, you don't think that they'll allege that the concussion did, if they suspend Sam Bennett, then they're gonna say that the concussion came from that fairly innocuous hit in the crease, a hit so innocuous that none of his Maple Leaf teammates came to back him up. So they're just gonna ignore the puck to the head? Right.

They'll know about it, but they'll just kind of assume they have public support on this. I'd be stunned. I'd be stunned. Okay, I predict that Sam Bennett will be suspended. Do you agree though? Like for what? Yeah, I do because it's it's an elbow to the head. But he tucked it in, but he didn't even give him one of those. I think it's enough for a suspension. I think you call it a push at max. Yeah, a grave. There's no punch or elbow thrown. I won't be pleased to be the one right here,

but I think he will be suspended and probably should be but but the panthers are so good they can overcome sam bennett missing a game if their penalty kills are a little dominant cast can i stop i have a lot of last night and i just stop all of you just for a second because uh... i i will concede to you that uh... what i'm hearing in this room feels like a whole lot of Panther fans perfectly fine with what happened with the Florida Panthers last night. As far as to say, the Toronto fan doesn't feel that good about that because of how it played out. I would say the reason that I fear teams like Winnipeg and Toronto and Washington, and I fear everyone it seems like, is because hockey is gonna hockey,

and I know the Panthers have the best team, but shit happens, and then you're down 1-0 to a Toronto team that is good enough, could have gotten knocked out in the first round, but that's a scary team, and so I don't feel good about that, and Sam Bennett possibly being suspended because as you guys have the sports argument

They've got a concussion problem throughout sports and whether it was or wasn't what caused the concussion Sam Bennett's Reputation is that's the dirtiest and the Panthers are the dirtiest and what happens when Sam Bennett does that is the entirety of the Internet hockey world that isn't a Florida Panther says those people down there in florida kind of scumbags and you guys are like we but they're ours i'll wear it but they're ours i don't care where it the other thing i would factor in is that the that you want to protect the goalie okay you protect that going that's his crease and when you have somebody

uh... throwing an elbow at at a goaling an elbow. I don't agree with that. Have you watched the replay? I have. They collided but like I understand what you're saying you don't want that happening to your goalie you know who doesn't want that happening to their goalie the most? The Toronto Maple Leafs that are on the ice. Right. Nobody came to his defense because it was that innocuous if you actually watch the play Bennett actually tucks his elbow in trying to avoid salars the concussion i would bet my life didn't happen on that play it happened when he took a pop to the face that knocked his helmet off okay and he probably really felt it off of a fairly

innocuous hit that got him loopy he was probably feeling loopy well before that okay i'm i'm not uh... predicting a suspension or saying what i'm saying as a fan because I'm not a fan. I'm neutral here and I wonder how the rest of you would feel if a Maple Leafs elbow had given... If I saw the replay and there was no extension of the elbow, it's just like he... Okay, if Bob Rowsky is vomiting on the bench and and he's out perhaps out of the next game you want someone suspended I'd be calling for the death penalty I understand what you're saying but I also think this is where our Panthers fandom actually helps contextualize this because we were

paying attention to what happened earlier in the game and we're pretty aware that that was a wicked shot that he took off his face mask and we also know that when Sam Bennett means to hit somebody dirty He commits to hitting somebody dirty the elbow doesn't go in the elbow goes out And I just think if he got suspended it would be really unfortunate and would be the league bending depression because he has this reputation I don't even think there's going to be a hearing. I think it's a waste of everybody's time. Straight to the gallows. Of course We're talking about this because it's Toronto and there are maniacs up there in Canada and it's Sam Bennett who has the reputation. I don't even think there's going

to be a hearing. Stop wasting my time. Emily Kaplan has tweeted this morning, nothing confirmed yet, but I don't believe Sam Bennett will receive supplement discipline for his contact with Stolar. He's not. I'm reporting it. Put it on the crawl on ESPN. I'm reporting it. No discipline. This is why he's a rising star at ESPN. Put it on the crawl. He just said to everybody, there will be no hearing. He's like, suspend him and he runs with the torches.

The internet says Sam Bennett's dirty and Zazz Lowe's. Judge Zazz, who doesn't want Judge Zazz of sports. I am a judge. Judge Zazz saying to you I am a judge that judge judge that's saying to you the thing You always want to hear about around the best sporting events hearings Zazzlow says there will not he is grant. He is saying there will not even nevermind always my time nevermind an investigation Now there will be no investigation. There's video out there. Everybody screaming when investigate. I saw it not even a hearing

Nope, so I'm wasting my time. It was gonna be right between. Not even a hearing. Nope. Stop wasting my time. Who's going to be right between Zaslow doesn't get a hearing, stop wasting my time, and Greg Cody with virtue signaler, ah, it looked like an elbow and we don't like concussion, suspended. Can it be as simple as if the Panthers come back and win last night, he probably gets suspended. And since they lost, like to balance things out.

I thought that's what happened with Tampa. But that's the other thing about what happened last night. Yo, you guys got all cocky because here comes Florida doing what they do, yes, on the momentum of a dirty hit. I mean, what happened to Tampa was obvious. Aaron Echblad went to kill Brendan Hagel because Hagel was super dirty earlier in the series. They missed the call.

It was still so on purpose. Not some two-faced hypocrite. Like, we were saying, Echblad should be suspended for that. That was with intention. And you're damn right it was intentional because he was defending his guy. This was not a concussion that was delivered by Sam Bennett in that moment.

It just wasn't. Yeah, you can't say that we're, it's all Panther fans here who are defending Sam Bennett in that spot. When we're all readily admitting yeah get eckblad being suspended makes sense but here in this spot's like no that's not a suspension okay but i i would ask you guys to consider if you realize that you're in the most magical place that there is in sports and the closest thing we've had in this city to this then

closest thing we've had in this city to this then then when the miami heat uh... were dominating this town for fifteen years your team irrelevant one your team a champion is despised by and respected and despised by people in hockey because the way they play in the playoffs is so physical that when sam bennett is dirty no one is surprised and can see optical illusions and no one

would be surprised because you have a panthers are dirty and there are dirty and what are you going to do about it are you going to suspend them because we'll take the suspension on that blood and the head yep you know why because we wanted him to do that because what because this sport this sport that cost a gold did it not what happened with the act blad everyone supported even though they acknowledge what act blad did was

whatever morally right to be in defense of the panthers but also it was costly the penalty for was costly they scored two goals in eleven seconds after the after act blad delivered that hit and then act blad i believe scored later on. He ended up not only did they not call a penalty on Eklad on that play but he but he went on to have maybe the most impactful game he's ever had as a Panther taking that guy out for our captain and then scoring the game time goal. We've probably spent too much time on Sam Bennett because I just flatly don't think anything. I already told there. I already told you, nothing's happening. Okay.

But like for me the headline is, Florida played very poorly. They were sloppy, they were sliding into their own guys, there were bad giveaways in their own zone. The fourth line wingers don't appear to be a fit for this specific series. Seth Jones was a spazz last night. Barkov was bad, Seth Jones was a mixed experience,

Verhagy has been frustrating people, I actually didn't think that he was that bad. Brad Marshon was actually really good on the night. That's my dog. That's my rat right there. So I think that Florida is well positioned and also the elephant in the room today that we should be discussing is the fact that heavy is that crest for Toronto. They could be up 2-0. They could be up 3-0. The sphincters in that collective province of Ontario are gonna be this tight because the Toronto Maple Leafs just struggle when they're on the front foot. I'd like some help from Greg Cody on this

because I don't know where the line is on Mike Ryan's appraisal that Seth Jones is, I think, a mixed experience or a mixed bag experience. I missed it, but as you were saying it, Zazz was calling him a spaz so what is the different like what is that the the line i don't know hockey well enough to know the difference between a mixed experience in the spaz because when i saw seth jones play i just thought he was kind of average i mean he scored a little or any broke up he broke up a

breakaway like he had very good moments and that game. But a spaz is what he called him. He also had some weird turnovers like he had some weird passes. He's doing like spinneroonies and losing the puck. That's a spaz. Well back in my day the word spaz was derogatory. Oh you think I'm saying it as a compliment right now? Apparently not. I think Seth Jones has been a great addition. Naturally Brad Marchand gets all the attention as far as their late season addition. Seth Jones has been great. He's a reason that they're

doing what they're doing right now.