The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: That's Why They Call it Window Pane

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Billy is ruling with an iron fist, so Greg Cote has his hand in a jar of mayo and Jeremy is the show's waiter today, and for some reason he has a bad New York (?) accent. The Bills and Broncos Monday Night Football game has the crew asking some questions like: Is Russell Wilson back to being a Hall of Famer? Does Josh Allen indeed have a stupid face? Has the Bills Super Bowl window closed? Plus, Greg has a Dolphins prediction, Joe Burrow goes to The Show-Me State, Damian Lillard continues to struggle in Milwaukee, and Chris Cote is done with jeans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Not so tough when I keep walking Yeah, just to show with the prize Like yes, let it tell me I'm awesome Yeah, like by on the pine If you wanna touch my piece, you's caught me Stop that, stop that I'm in big trouble today. The first words I hear from Greg Cody as he sits down, or I hate the smell of mayonnaise. He's got a giant jar in front of him. His penalty for the day is to have his hand in the jar of mayonnaise for the entire show. Is that what the grid of death penalty is? Is that what it is?

I think we can fudge that rule a little bit. I don't think it needs to be the entire show, does it? You already did this. Oh great. So I don't have to do it again. Do you not remember doing this? I've been doing it a long time ago. I thought I lost the same moment.

Hold on a second. When did he do it, Billy? He did it before we left the Clevelander. There was a scramble one day to get mayonnaise. We had to run down the street to get it, and he went and he put his hand in the mayonnaise. I said he's been, guys. I said I lost again.

Billy, as Jeremy has said multiple times, we have recycled some good, this is a good punishment. It's funny. Let's lit it up. We're using it. We is a good punishment. It's funny. Let's lit it up. We're using it, we're in reruns. We're in a chill. For some reason he chose it again. You know what, I came in here today

and I told Dan privately, I go, you know what, I think the grid of death is going great. I'm ruling with an iron fist, people paying off punishment at record rates here. I feel like what's happening here is that because of my management style, I'm treating everyone here like an adult. And in kind, everyone is doing what it is that they need to do without feeling this pressure,

without feeling this burden, without feeling this like just bad vibes around the grit of death and the bucket of death. Things are going, Jeremy's a waiter today. I don't know why. I said, why are you a waiter today? He said, because it's a punishment. I go, did you make that up? He said, no, it's been on there.

Go, perfect. I don't need to police you if you're are you a waiter today? He said, because it's a punishment. I go, did you make that up? He said, no, it's been on there. Go, perfect. I don't need to police you if you're going to police yourself. Things are going great. In fact, I'm going to tell you right now. I lost this weekend, and I'm not a shame to say it, and I'm going to select the punishment right now. I'm going to have to learn a Pitbull dance.

That's what's going to be going on. I'm going to have to learn and perform a Pitbull backup dance. And I'm going to be doing that. I'm going to be completing that. So I think things are going great. Billy. Except this was already done so I don't know why you're doing this again. Billy you do what I'm told.

When Chris Cody came in here and it's one of the many reasons I'm in trouble today because it's not just Greg Cody. It's Jeremy is a waiter today and he's got to serve everyone's needs throughout the entirety of the show. Anything anyone needs. Yeah well can I get for you? Wow, what is it? Yorker, I what is that I what kind of waiter? What kind of waiter is that? I don't understand guys You're making it feel like my fist is not made of iron right now. All right. What can I get for you?

Pretty good, right? I'm not sure. I like that guy. I like that guy. I don't like that guy. And what I like least about that guy is twice he's done it and then said pretty good, huh? I really don't.

I can make my own assessments without you forcing me into that. Is this bartender slash waiter, like, does that their accent? Are they like a struggling actor who's workshopping accents with the group to get a gig? Well, you have just discovered a new layer to this character, Billy, and I'm excited to incorporate it into what it is we're doing today. Hi, everybody.

Hi, we are giving you a BLT to go with all those mayonnaise, which you got it. Thank you. Put your hand in the mayonnaise. What? Again? Put your hand in the mayonnaise, please. Wow. And it's got to be there all show.

Put some paper underneath the mayo, because it's going to come out and make a mess, please. And any spare paper. This is essential paper here. I'll get you some, great. Thank you. There you go. I'm going to have a waiter. He's making a BLT.

The reason that Billy's just so awful. Oh, my God. Yeah. Four hours to go. No, no. That's what it was in my head. That's right. Right now, what is in my head is Dan four hours to go. This is what you have to deal with.

He's got it back in my day today. I'm stunned by that. To say, but the reason Chris Cody is coming in here and saying, we've got to ride this Billy energy and the reason Billy is bouncing off the walls, just pinballing off the walls, I got the rarest of treats and treasures that I woke up to this morning. I did not watch the end of that bills game, but I got the most elusive of things, a late night Billy Gill text.

And that text is the stupid face of one josh allen it is uh... and i that's how i knew what happened in the game last night right and i know we can't do the shows to god to the broncos of one three in a row let's talk about the positive parts of this they're in the mix though dan i mean i know we're not going to talk about uh... how they go from allowing 70 points to beating the bills at Buffalo after beating Patrick Mahomes. It's confusing. And we're not going to talk about the Denver Broncos. Russell Wilson having a great season. He's playing well. That's been fixed. I don't know if the Broncos have been fixed, but the

enduring echo of 70 points is such that they've got to do a lot more than win three games for people to feel like the Sean Payton, Russell Wilson, things, not a joke. They're starting to feel better about it though. Are you saying the Broncos could be a good team and the dolphins be a good team? I'm saying the Broncos are four and five. They've won three straight. Dan is right. Russell is back. He's playing himself back into the hall of fame. He played himself out of it for a year and a half. But the Broncos, like just about every team in the AFC with the exception of two, they're in the mix.

They are. I'll talk Bronco football all day. Damn right. Sean Peyton, coach of the year. Piling up points, piling up votes. Win by win. I need a quick ruling from Grid of death commission or gill. Oh God. Yeah I request to

Put the jar on its side What it'll spill out I get what he's saying cuz it's like uncomfortable for him to go at that angle I've already raised your chair. I've already got like a deadly crease on my wrist here. It's your second time doing it So it's a deadly crease. Yeah. What do you think, Komish? Well, raise your chair slightly, is that it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Maybe the waiter can do it for you. I'm a one-hander man here. Raise that chair. I'll wait her, go get some more. Yeah, you got it. Toilet paper and raise the chair over here. I think maybe we need a big bowl that's lower and we just pour all of it into a bowl in your hands.

No, that's a good idea because- I think maybe put it closer to you, Greg. This is a razor sharp put it on your lap, maybe. Is that bad for the shot? Put it on your lap, try putting it on your lap. Put a little on your face. Mm-hmm. That's actually better.

The lap is better. The crease goes away, the deadly crease goes away. Yeah, but I think we lose the shot. You want the televised payoff of he's got I know I have mayonnaise there you go Good job. That's good. Leave it like that. Just put it on your head. That's fine Stugot you said you could talk all day about the Denver Broncos. I don't believe you go ahead I Will sit here and stare at you and we will not talk about the Denver Broncos because

the storyline from last night is to be confused by the Buffalo Bills. Trayvon Diggs is, that's real on Twitter where he's saying they need to get Stefan out of Buffalo. That's been a report for a while now that Stefan Diggs. He's denied it, but the Stefan Diggs doesn't want to be in Buffalo anymore. And the fall of that team has been precipitous to God since 2018. No player in the league has more turnovers than Josh Allen. It turns out the day ball didn't actually coach the reckless out of him. He's reckless and they lose because he's reckless. And when he's perfect, they'll beat the dolphins 48-20 at home. And when he's not, they'll be

five and five and confuse everybody. It wasn't just Josh Allen though. I mean, the problem is the defense, half that defense, and you talk about this all the time when we analyze games, just watching Mayo being poured into a bowl here. Thank you, waiter. Like you shake your hand. You're doing such a good job. It wasn't Dan. It wasn't just Josh though. Like Like there's lots of drops and it seems to be a thing and I'm like, I'm interested in talking to Chris Sims this week on God bless, for him. Because he has been one saying, Josh needs help, he doesn't have pieces,

he doesn't have what he needs around him. And I think that what we may be starting to see and I could be wrong is maybe Josh, he's good. He's got great arm talent, he's incredible, right? However, it seems like he needs the pieces to go to the next step and he's not going to be able to make the people around him better. I think is where we could be at and I could be wrong in thinking that, but that's what it's starting to feel like. Because he goes, he makes passes, they don't get dropped. They get, then he misses wide open passes sometimes and it seems like sometimes he gets flustered and then he tries to make things happen

and then they don't happen and things go from bad to worse. But Billy Dan talks about this all the time where we're analyzing the San Francisco 49ers. Why do we not analyze the fact that Trent Williams hasn't been playing the last few weeks and when he's back he looks really good. With the bills half their defense is injured. Half the defense is injured and Josh Allen, yes, he had a couple of interceptions last night. One was totally on Gabe Davis,

who's good for one of those every couple of weeks. The other one was on James Cook. And then at the end of the game, they have the lead. It's not Josh Allen's fault that the coach has too many players on the field. All fair. I want to tackle those one at a time.

You mentioned Trent Williams. The best play from the weekend was trend williams he's leading macafrey over the left side and the jackson bill defensive back turns around and runs away from him

trend williams said he had never seen that before instead of taking the collision out now he he did make the play go out wide, but he literally turned his back to Trent Williams and kept running. That game last night is the first to got since 2016, a Bengals game, where that situation happened. 30 plus penalty yards at the end of a game to cost you the game because the bills had

multiple penalties and seemed poorly coached, seemed undisciplined, and you can say that the turnovers might not have been a fault last night if you wanted the fault of somebody else to got, but since 2018, no human being playing professional football has turned the ball more or over more than this person. I cannot blame that on his teaming. No, I understand. Well, some of them you can't tell you, no, you can't blame that number.

Okay. It's it's more than 70s to God. It's more than 70. Many of those are Josh Allen's fault. He's reckless. He's also top five in QBR this year. As bad as it's been. Dan all I'm saying is every team with the exception

of maybe four would trade their quarterback right now to get Josh Allen. He's a good quarterback. Is he great? I don't know, but he's really good. They also needed the Broncos needed a genuinely mind bending catch from Cortland Sutton and the penalty at the end of the game to win. It wasn't like they tried to give it away. Yeah, all those miss extra points. I mean, it is truly embarrassing for a coach to let their defense go out with the wrong number of players on the field. After a time out, I believe. After, I mean, I can't imagine how it must feel to be a Buffalo Bills fan right now.

You mentioned the missed extra points. I believe a kicker this weekend. Was it Cleveland's kicker? A mist an extra point and then made the game winning field goal and said, I feel like an arsonist who went and put out the fire and then everybody pats him on the back for putting out his own fire. I like that analogy. Because he missed the extra point and then the field goal ends up winning it. I like that analogy because he missed the extra point and then the field goal ends up winning it. The bills are confounding and Stugat, to me, the interesting conversation around Josh Allen, because you say, I don't know if he's great, but he's good, is if in today's NFL, there's a compensation for if you turn it over more than anyone else, you can't be great.

There's no such thing. You're not allowed to be a great quarterback who turns the ball over more than everyone in a league where that's a deciding thing. It is a fatal flaw in examining anybody's greatness. I would agree with you and I've been wrong. I've somehow been wrong multiple times on Josh Allen because I said he was terrible in a playoff game when he's thrown down the field at his full back and double coverage, 50 yards down the field. His judgment was bad, his accuracy was bad

and he was reckless. I said he was terrible. He ends up becoming an MVP kind of good because that one season with day ball it looked like they fixed it They didn't fixed it a bunch of cornerbacks drop the ball He had a bunch of interceptions that should have been interceptions that were just dropped and he got lucky all season And what's happened since is he now has this is part of his game It's not something that's correctable

It's not stu-got because the one season that he didn't turn the ball over is a season he should have turned the ball over. That the metric show you that he was largely lucky that he didn't turn it over double digits every time. He could also be unlucky, right? Like that happened last night with Gabe Davis. I mean, that's... Or you could make the argument that he threw that way too hard.

No. It's like, you gotta have touch. What? Right in his hands, man. I'm just saying, there's times when you can have touch, he threw that a hundred miles per hour. That was like one of the hardest throws I've ever seen. I'm not, it was right in his hands, but there is, it's more than just decision making, it's touch.

Nobody's surprised what we're seeing on a Josh Allen because coming out of college, he was always the high risk high reward guy. You know, the, the B bomb a deer who's not accurate in accuracy was the rap against him, which is why he didn't get drafted higher. And now we're seeing that in accuracy. But we thought it was we thought it was fixed with Dable. We did.

I mean, Dable got a job that we thought was going to transfer over to Daniel Jones because he could fix that thing. There's no fixing that thing. No, I agree. But you take what you get with him. There have been other quarterbacks who've thrown, been great, but also thrown a lot of interception. Brett Farve comes to mind.

No, but wait, Greg, it's a new NFL. We're not playing that way anymore. We're not playing, no, you cannot have a quarterback. Man, it offsets your greatness. Yes, I'd love to have Josh Allen as my quarterback, but the perfect quarterback is Josh Allen not turning the ball over. Patrick Mahomes, I mean. Yeah, or Josh Allen with, with two, two as accuracy. That, that's the ideal quarterback. Josh Allen's arm, his bravado, everything that makes him great or pretty great

with the accuracy of a really accurate quarterback like to. My point is because this team was 13 seconds from the Super Bowl. Okay. When healthy, the bills were in Kansas City and had the game won because they can be unstoppable when that offense is working. But this Buffalo team is somehow five and five and has a brutal schedule coming up as well. It's not a team you can trust when you're losing to the jets, when you're losing to Denver.

Everyone's making fun of the dolphins because they can't beat a winning team. Well, they're not losing to those teams. Right. They're not, they're, they're, it feels can't beat a bad team. they're not losing to those teams right they're not there they're there is can't be the bad team that the bill is at least big beat those we know that the last two seasons that the bills are good but i'm actually interested in having the conversation

with you guys because garapolo was a throw away from winning a super bowl josh allen was thirteen seconds away from being in a Super Bowl. But I believe that I can say in today's NFL, it's not possible to be a great quarterback if you're worst in the league at giving the ball to the other team. Do I have that wrong?

No, you're right. And a team turning the ball over that much should be five and five at best. You're right. And a team turning the ball over that much should be five and five at best. You're right. Josh Allen is nobody's MVP because of those turnovers. It's an epidemic. Now the problem is he has so much upside that he has a career like nobody's thinking

of trading him or benching him or, you know, he can throw 25 20 Interceptions a season and he's still gonna be a starting quarterback because he's gonna throw 33 touchdowns and be pretty great Danny boy, that's why when people are coming up to me at the bar. They're asking hey, who would you rather have Joshy or Tua? You're a waiter. This isn't working. I didn't like it as a limited waiter. I certainly don't like a long Addition for guys and dolls coming up Danny

Let me be comfortable with your customer. I know we mentioned the 12 Man on that last play, but that has to be our McDermott like we like hot seat question mark Like that has to be the conversation that's what the people are asking hot seat We're ready for hot seat talk The well the fans have already been. Underachieving. The team is underachieving more this year. With the bills, this is a serious question

of their current Super Bowl window clothes. That's not to say that Josh Allen is not going to go on and win Super Bowl's later in his career, but it's kind of like with this current version of the bills, did they just miss that window and now they got to kind of catch up when everybody, because there's new windows now. The dolphins are like in their tiny window

if you believe that they're actually a serious container, which some people don't, because they haven't beat good teams yet. The chiefs are always in the Super Bowl window, it seems like they're always gonna be there. Burrow, did that window close? What's going on with the window? The blow is not close. You're not allowed to close that window.

No, the current window. The Burrow window is still wide open. Windows shut and open. Yeah, window, that's exactly what with the close. The burrow window. The burrow window is still wide open. Windows shut and open. Yeah, that's exactly, Greg gets it. Windows are one time use. You have the burrow window being closed, Greg. It's banging shut, baby. It's pressing and it's pressing.

It's pressing and window may be shut, but you know what happens when you close one window? Another one opens. Another one opens. Yeah, not exactly, but. That's why they call it window pain. They call it window pain because when you think your window's open

and then your nose is banging up against it because the window shut when you weren't looking. That's the problem with windows. Great, great. Greg's using a big toe wrestle. I am, I invented that. I invented the man he is. Yeah, I invented that.

Yeah, it's currently bent and half. I know. It's so good though, if you want to toast it. I just want to be clear, just to be clear, because so many of you are just so in love with the sound of your own voice. Have you all agreed that the burrow window is closed? Is that something that just happened?

That's just my dad saying that. I did not. I did not. What's it just because he was talking and loving the sound of his own voice, and he wasn't listening to what he's saying. You're saying the burrow window is closed. No, you know Joe Burwis. You guys don't.

You guys don't. We're not toxic together. You don't get windows like Josh. This is not let's say that the bill's Super Bowl window has closed. That's not to say that he can't win one down the road. Right. To say this particular version of the bills may just not be good enough to get back into contention to win a Super Bowl and they may need to move Stefan Diggs and bring in different pieces so that he can win the Super Bowl.

But this version isn't working. Right. It could reopen. Yeah, Burrow, you know, since the night he got off to a rough start, they've been better lately, but they're not a Super Bowl team right now. The window is cracked open. You know, Burrow is capable of putting his fingers under the cell and lifting the window,

but he's got a show me that he can do that. Greg, he doesn't have to show you. He's got to show me. That's why they call it window paint. Thank you. Greg, it's the show me state. What is? It is?

Burrow having to show me that he can still win a Super Bowl What is the show me state? Well, it's Missouri, but you know right now the show me state is the state of Joe Burrow is he needs to show me that he is in a state Of mind right he can win a Super Bowl different kind of state This is on it right this is worse than the Steph Curry backpack to the end of it yeah no he hasn't done it you know Greg you're gonna be surprised if Joe Barrow finds himself playing in the Super Bowl

this year yes really I will be but not the dolphins no I dolphins are more likely Super Bowl team than Cincinnati and the Dolphins are six and three hundred bangles are five and four the The dolphins got drug by Buffalo. Yeah, they did. But what are you doing? What are you doing? I'm all in on the dolphins. It have been since the beginning last year.

Right. I mean, the fact that there's six and three, that's a good record to be when you have five winnable games in the world. They're going to be 11 and three before the cowboys come here. Don't don't you, Chris. Don't don't. I What do you mean? Why would you assume a month of winning in that league like one against anybody? Why would why would any one assume a month? Did you just see what happened to San Francisco? In that lead, you cannot look at a schedule and just say, ah, they'll win for the next five weeks. And I know it's an easy schedule and just say, ah, they'll win for the next five weeks.

And I know it's an easy schedule, Stugas. But if they lost to the jets in there, you would not be surprised. If they lost a game to the jets, like... I would not be surprised, you're right. But I can't see them being like 11 and 3, 10 and 4, headed into those last three games, sure. That's fine, but how often do we get that one right?

Like, honestly, like, we can't predict that league and it is an unusually dumb thing to try and say anyone's gonna win five straight games in that league. But you just pointed out Buffalo's difficult schedules and it is, you're right about that. Buffalo can win those games, no. But my point is they're already five and five

and they've got difficult games coming up with no margin for error. What I'm saying of the dolphins is what I would say of any team in the league, practically, five and five and they've got difficult games coming up with no margin for error. Right. And I'm saying of the dolphins is what I would say of any team in the league, practically, that you just can't look at a schedule and assume for a second in that sport. Look at what happened last night, who had that last night, other than Chris Long in a three team parlay on the money line with Russell Wilson throwing more than one and a half touchdown passes.

That paid, that had to 2,000 that pet. Still you got that, I mean, seven and three this time. It was undoubtedly a great biweek for the Dolphins. Every single team that they needed to lose lost. Some are saying it's the best biweek in sports history. You were too. The Dolphins just experienced. It was a great biweek.

The chiefs didn't win. The Jags lost. The Ravens lost. Everyone had the't win. The Jags lost. The Ravens lost. Everyone had the fails lost. The Patriots lost. The Patriots lost. They could not have gone better. Everybody at the bars agreeing with you, Chrissy.

No, not Jessica. She's got a team in the mix. Yep. Steelers won. No one's afraid to steal her. Same record as the Dolphin's though. I know. And they have an out game.

And a team with a winning record. Outgained in every game. 63. Yep. Football. They're like that fantasy team. That's like for that has like give me a call The Steelers are that fantasy team in your league that has the lowest point scored But there's still somehow a winning record. It's like this is infuriating. They shouldn't be good They don't have a quarterback team above 500. Your quarterback. Where's a glove? I hate that I hate when a quarterback wears a belt. You mentioned San Francisco as an example of how unpredictable the league is.

Their three game losing streak was a very explainable anomaly. You mentioned Trent Williams more than that. This is a new and unimproved game of the game. Devo Sanrio. This is Tugas. Gamble on by Draftkins. Living in a world of trending topics and keeping up with sports and culture that you actually care about can feel like a full time job.

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You know, I've been cremated a week before, but we'll do the casket thing just for show. And as my casket is being lowered, Whoa, we have the casket? Yeah, it'll be a sea, you know. Just for show, we're gonna do this. Well, what's the redundancy there? You know, I mean, we're going to put on a public display.

Yeah, naturally. Stugats! What do you do with the ashes? You're going on a lowly cruise. Exactly. Maybe we'll throw them over my wife or throw them overboard. I was just sneaking with her new husband. This is the Don Lebertar Show with a Stugats! Damien Lillard is shooting 27% from three.

It's a career worse. He's shooting 37% overall everywhere on the field, from the field and their defensive efficiencies have gone into the tank. And people are asking after eight games, is it that he's unhappy to be there? Is it that he's not trying? And I think you have to give these things, all of these things time.

I think change, hell, this show is proof of that. You've changed, you keep changing things in the environment. You're going to create a great deal of unrest. And what we thought would work perfectly in Milwaukee has disassembled a championship defense and asked Lillard and Antitacompo to figure it out. But Lillard's been terrible. Like he's been objectively terrible. There are very few shooting percentages from three. Like that shooting percentage from three. Damien Lillard is one of the greatest shooters shooters in the history of the sport. I know it's an eight game sample, but to shoot 27% from

three makes you the worst three point shooter in the history of the league as someone who shoots by volume. Westbrook and Dwayne Wade were better than that from three. That's truly terrible and it's hard to understand because open shots are open shots and I don't know why Damien Lillard through just eight games is missing so many of them. It's time for Jimmy to start flirting again. I think a little passive aggressive stuff

on social media start liking some dame posts. Let's just, let's get this new story going again. And your package is Jamal Cain and Nikola Yovic and you'll take it. Jeremy has been taking a big victory lap on Portland. You see now these guys are looking for Portland. They could have had Heimey, they could have had Duncan who's looking good for us. Tyler's looking good for us.

It's early in the season, the package that they could have got from us have been playing better than what they got. Portland. Lillard was three of 17 last night. He's 40% basically for his career from three point range. So it is, it's a bit suspicious. Oh, wait, or by the way, I need to charge your computer charger. You got it, Stu.

But, Dan, here is the thing with the Milwaukee box and Damien Lillard. I don't care if he's unhappy or not. You have been in Portland your entire career. You have played in a handful of important games while in Portland. Now you're in Milwaukee. You're teamed up with one of the best players we've ever seen in Yannis and Chris Middleton. I don't care if you're unhappy. Like if you're not going to be happy being, you know, playing next to Yannis,

when are you going to be happy? Seriously, as a basketball player, how can you get happier than that? No one said he's unhappy. Well, I mean, people are speculating, Billy. Well, I did just mention that people are wondering that the numbers are so off. They are wondering if it's an effort thing, if it if if it's mood can be affected or a shot can be affected by his mood, but I'm holding up in front of me. Something I had not seen before.

It is, Stu got, Stu got his car key with a keychain. Is this reminding you to be happy? It says be happy on it. Is it because you need the reminder? It's Rachel's keychain. It's a reminder to her to be happy. That's it, that's all. If we're talking about his happiness,

there have been reports about personal stuff going on with him and his marriage so there you go we don't well too late we already want to be reported stuff it's reported stuff reported reported stuff uh... yes it is reported stuff and that's uh... change all kinds of emotional energetic change uh... can it that kind of change i believe was that that's a high school

sweetheart I believe a marriage a long time marriage and then you're now in a new city and all of a sudden the pressure of that with you were beloved son where you were and now you have championship expectations in a way that you haven't it can be a mind bleep. Milwaukee. Give the guy an adjustment period eight, we should not be judging 27% after eight games. I would liken that to you have a 300 hitter in baseball who's hitting 179 two weeks into

the season. You don't worry about it. Ponce Soto. You assume he's going to come back to his his mean, his norm. The defense though. I don't know if there's an answer for that. There are only two ways that we would be talking about this, and one would be if they looked like the Celtics or Sixers now with Lillard going crazy or this.

I'm not saying you should worry about it. I'm not disputing that it's a small sample. I'm saying that this is exactly the way you don't want to start. If you are him, and there are any number of ways to start abysmally like this terrible where everyone's noticing it and Milwaukee is looking like they don't know what they're doing. It doesn't help any. Damien Lillard's comfort that that's what he's playing in. But this up we're a month into this experiment.

Like this is a game. This is yeah, this is like back in he big playing in. But this is, we're a month into this experiment. Like this is like, This is like, this is like back in he big three era when you're like, you lose the first game and like, you need to tear the whole thing up this clue he isn't gonna work. It's like, give it some time. Like the bucks will be just fine. Don't worry about them.

And like also, is this who we're gonna be like as a fan base and a show where we're just rooting against Damien Lillard. Yes. Damien Lillard didn't do anything to this fan base. Look, why do you want him to fail? Get your perspective out of here. When he gets back to the middle,

we can talk about it. But for right now, I don't like that. No, no, no, no, no, no. But now he's terrible and we need to celebrate this because we're heat fans and this is all we have at this point. We didn't get Dam, we're hurt and we want him to be bad to start the season and he is, so this is good.

You should just take the E out of heat heaters and just make it haters, because that's what it is. That's what it is. This is all sports. This is not just heat fans. Any team who went through what the heat went through this off season with Dame flirting with us,

demanding to be here, we don't get him. Any fan base would be rooting against him at this point. No, you can't blame Lillard wanted to come here. I'm not even blaming him on his fault, because they didn demanding to be here. We don't get them any fan base would be rooting against him at this point No, you can't blame Lillard wanted I'm not even blaming him on his fault. I'm just I didn't trade him here I'm just celebrating that he's not been great. No, it is his fault. He didn't want it badly enough. I mean make a stink That's interesting. Yeah, he sure seemed to make a stain made the biggest stink than anyone's mate. Is it not the heat's fault? Never yeah, it's more the heat's fault than Lillard's fault, but I'm stuck with the heat at this point. Okay. I'm stuck with a room of Ryan Cortez's right now. I Mean you shut everybody up with that you shut everybody up with isn't it the heat's fault?

Yes, and he fans are mad that they're that what their man is in the mirror, but they can't spit on the mirror. They offered the better package what their man is in the mirror, but they can't spit on the mirror. They offered the better package. It's obvious. We just proved that point. They offered the better package. Then Portland got petty, yeah, and decided not to trade Dave where he wanted to be. And he made a picture.

No, no, no, it's not anything like that. Jaime Hakez, Nikolayovitch, multiple first drawn picks Tyler Hero, is a very good package. It's been made obvious. Where did the character go? Where does the bad waiter right next to him? I tell you It's been made obvious. Where did the character go? The character doesn't like the way it is, I expect. That's all he's a bad waiter.

I asked for a computer charger. He brought the wall. I asked for a coke. He brought me a diet coke. He had to send it back. It was undercooked. Very opinionated waiter. That's all you.

Just going back for a second, when that trade was made, I told you, that the Miami Heat said when the package was complete that Portland had gotten better pieces from the entirety of the package, then Miami had offered. However, that presumed health, that presumed Robert Williams being something close to Robert Williams. He just had knee surgery that ends his season and, to God's, that knee surgery comes because they played him in the playoffs against the Miami Heat to not get past the Miami Heat. They lost. They, if they ruined Robert Williams' career, playing him in the playoffs. And so you thought you were getting time, Lord,

but you got a guy with bad knees who now is out for the rest of the season and you don't know what you're gonna get from him at all. The remainder of his career, if he'll be the same, you do not know. I'm so sick of hearing about this package, by the way. You guys have been talking about this package for months. All right, here is this package, that package, you will not stop talking about your package,

and I cannot take it anymore. Enough with the package talk. Fair enough. Let's talk about jeans instead. Oh, boy. I'm done with jeans. Oh, what? I mean, they're talking before the show about

the difference, like skinny jeans, tight jeans. It's like, whatever happened to just jeans being jeans. I am turning into my dad. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I still refer to them as tight jeans. It's like whatever happened to just jeans being jeans. I am turning into my dad I still refer to them as blue jeans I'm like the only guy in earth still calling them blue jeans even if they're black their blue jeans trust me Put it on the pole at Levitard show. Juju even if they're black are they still blue jeans? Why did this come up? Why is it that everyone was so fired up about jeans? Well, just because there's so many different variations,

this is my frustrations. I don't know why everyone else is frustrated. Just like flex fit and tight and boot around the boot. I'm just like giving a gene. All right, I'll try it on and that's it. Uh, jeans are cheating now, especially with the way size because if you're like a 36, 37, like I am, you could still fit into a 34.

37. You can't you stretch them out. Like listen, when I was growing up, you had to earn a 34 waist. You had to earn a 33, a 35, a 36. Now you can be as fat as you want and fit into 34's. I'm telling you, the adjustable way size has ruined jeans. Correct. It's ruined fitness. I made up telling you. It came up, Dan, because before the show, I revealed to some people that what happened was that this past Friday, I had to go jean shopping for a Christmas card photo shoot

that is upcoming. And my wife waited until we got to the store to reveal to me that she does not like the way that I dress and she doesn't like my jeans. So this was like a very polite, like, hey, let's go get new jeans so we're all matching. And I was doing, I'm like, I don't know, I don't like how these finish goes. Your current jeans fit terribly. Like they look bad, that's not the style anymore.

You need new jeans, which I was taking it back, as you might know, because I feel like our marriage has been a lie up until this point, because this is how it was revealed to me. So I was trying on hyper-stretch genes which are incredible and then me and Jeremy were talking about it and Hyper-stretch genes are essentially jeggings is what I'm wearing now like it's not denim anymore It seems like denim's gone by the wayside and not just that I also feel like and it could be a product of fashion the way fashion is going or I'm getting shorter because I used to be like a

34 length and I was be like a 34 length and I was flirting with a 30 length now. Because you don't want them to bunch up there at the bottom there, the jeans, that's the style now. So I don't know what's going on. We shown a little ankle. I didn't like it. I didn't like it.

I had to go back to the 32, but either way, I've lost two inches. I think that during COVID, the atlasier takeover and people wearing their sweats to work and then when people went back to the office, they were like, we don't wanna put our hard pants back on. We wanna keep wearing stretchy pants, we want the illusion of wearing hard pants.

So now everything's stretchy. And I'm with you, Billy. Jeans have had a major stylistic change for men and women over the last five years. We went from skinny jeans to high waist jeans. Now we're back to flare jeans and low rise. It's, but I thought low rise flare jeans the other day. I don't know who I am anymore. They're disgusting. I'm getting rid of them. I hate them. But I can't even imagine what it's like to be a man, but traditionally you shop less. It's the worst. And pay less attention to style, at least Billy does,

and having to go. Well, hey, everyone's coming after my style. What's the average age of your jeans? My jeans can vote. There you go. You can't drink, though. It's weird. Jeans have stopped being jeans.

Thank you. Jeans are not supposed to be comfortable. I don't like my ally. Bring back the Dungarees. That's what I'm saying. Bring back bib overalls. I mean, supposed to be comfortable. I don't like my ally. Bring back the dungarees. That's what I'm saying. You know, bring back bib overalls. I mean, jeans, come on. They're not supposed to fit.

Well, they're not supposed to be comfortable. They're supposed to be a little bit baggy and feel like sandpaper. That's what jeans are supposed to be. Blue jeans. He's right, I mean. Bye!