The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: That's Why They Call Me Marco

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:15 Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow in it. Shadow in it. It is clear that Enora was the biggest winner of the night. Yeah, there's no question. I mean, I'll be more and more specific and mention Mikey Madison, who's had, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:29 just this is really her moment was great and poor, better things the show. And I love the fact Sean Baker acknowledged Tarantino when he won, it was quite in love your work. And by the way, there would be no Mikey Madison without you. So thanks for cast here and once upon a time in Hollywood, which is something that people do forget. So I think that was definitely one of the bigger wins of the night.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I mean, obviously it's Sean Baker and Arad. The fact that this guy's going home with four Oscars, he does set a record in terms of that category. And I do think Adrian Brody is a big winner of the night. And in addition to the Brutalist, the fact that the Brutalist was again a movie made in Vista vision, which is something they use in the 1950s. Brady Corbett is a former actor turned director.
Starting point is 00:02:02 If Inora is the biggest winner of the night, the Brutalist still did very well. To be able to say we got best actor, best score and best cinematography, still feels pretty good. Oh, they're not the loser at all. Yeah, tell me, who's your biggest loser? I'm gonna say, God, I think it's, I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:02:18 I think it's a completely unknown because their one chance was Timothee Chalamet and he doesn't win it. So a completely unknown eight nominations, over. I'm gonna say the biggest loser of the night and I love her. I love her so much, but Demi Moore. I think that she expected to win.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I think this was her moment and she had some great speeches along the way but this was gonna be the crowning achievement of a career. And I, when you St. Amos fire about last night, you go back and then you look at indecent proposal and you just go through her career. And this was her time and I felt for her, but I still have to say that she's got to be
Starting point is 00:02:52 the biggest loser of the night. Demi Lutz in this instance, rather than Demi Moore. I mean, that was, that was, and you know, cause this is, this is the moment, right? She never got nominated before. This is your one chance. She's not gonna get another nomination. We all know that.
Starting point is 00:03:04 The substance, by the way, is like like it's so shocking. It got this much attention. Like this is a horror movie, which is gruesome and grimy. And when Mike Ryan recommended it to us, I was like, I'm not sure about this. And you don't like these types of movies. So it was it was a crawl. The fact that got this many nominations is remarkable. But as you said before, you got the open ad man, yeah, and open the show coming out of Demi Moore's body.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah. That's the prime real estate. All right, number one takeaway. Well, it's a great sign for independent film because that's what Anora was. This was truly an independent way made by Sean Baker, which he's really passionate about. He goes, it was $6 million.
Starting point is 00:03:38 We used every single one of those dollars to make him wait, which was authentic and lived in, as I said before, a comedy, a drama, a tragedy. It's a wonderful, beautiful film. And also The Bruleus, which was authentic and lived in, as I said before, a comedy, a drama, a tragedy. It's a wonderful, beautiful film. And also The Brutalist, which is an independent film, financed by Brady Corbet, a story about an epic, about an immigrant, the rise and fall. Guy Pearce, by the way,
Starting point is 00:03:52 one of the biggest winners of the year, I love him. Finally got his first Academy Award nomination. He's so great in The Brutalist for Best Supporting Actor. Those are a couple of big winners there. And I just think, as you said, cinema in general, it really did well. My biggest loser, by the way, in addition to just the year itself, the runtime.
Starting point is 00:04:08 The whole point of 7 p.m. Eastern David was they know the Oscars goes three and a half hours, sometimes four hours. So it used to always start at eight o'clock Eastern and then go till midnight. Everyone's like, oh my God, wait for your late local news, et cetera. So they move it to seven and the thought is,
Starting point is 00:04:21 okay, we're hoping for three hours, but even if it's three and a half, 1030 is still reasonable, but this 1045 I know maybe it sounds like I'm quibbling over 15 minutes, but it felt bloated Yeah, I thought the elements of the show dragged okay, and that made it feel worse But it caught up quickly at the end and the stream Said it would end at 1032 So there are only 10 minutes over by that logic. 10 or 11 minutes over. And Brody himself was 40% of the over.
Starting point is 00:04:50 So just keep in mind that that is a big factor. OK, what happened with Hulu then? Apparently the Hulu feed crashed. That's that's one of the biggest losers of the night. So I want to say that my takeaway from the year in movies and my takeaway from the show, we heard people talk about movie theaters, the importance of going to the movies. It starts with Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible saying,
Starting point is 00:05:12 I'm gonna put movie theaters on my back, I'm gonna demand a theatrical release and you must see my movie on a big screen. What we learned today, when you hear an independent person and a person who's making small movies, small budgets, talk about the importance of movie theaters, that is the lifeblood of the industry that you and I love so much.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And that lifeblood is being torn apart by the very commercial that Conan had in the show, trying to convince people to go to a theater. That was the theme of the show. It was getting people back post-COVID because the destruction of the revenue structure of the film business has been severe since COVID. And it was starting and now it's been severe.
Starting point is 00:05:57 So my takeaway is that there are quality movies that studios are afraid to green light. And I hope that the winners of the Oscars this year, the quality of the movies and the size of them will allow studio executives to be more brave in their choices. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. ["The Dan Leventor Show"]
Starting point is 00:06:27 Budcast! I didn't like last night Cody that I realized while watching the Oscars how much my viewing habits have changed where Conan O'Brien to me is one of my idols. I can't explain how much I admire the way that he's reinvented himself so that he can do in his 60s an award show that would be self-aware. Like comedy self-aware because he really is a comedy giant so I just want to watch him but I don't have three and a half hours of that in me. And Adnan and David eat it up. They were up late into the night, eating up every morsel of information on the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I realized while watching it, I don't even have the stamina for what has become an old person's show. Why wouldn't I love it then, if it's an old person's show? I would think that you would love it. You didn't love it? I didn't see a single one of the films. You know, it's a weird thing about me,
Starting point is 00:07:26 and I must get this 10 times a week. They're like, you were featured in a major motion picture, absence of malice. How can you not be- You don't get that 10 times a week. How can you not be a movie fan? You do not get- Well, that's your amount, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:40 There's no way you get 10 times a week. There's just no way that- I'm sure there's some weeks where it's like eight times well yeah, I am but then there's the twelve weeks so then it averages to ten I am exaggerating a little bit you're saying you get approached daily
Starting point is 00:07:53 on your star turn being in a newsroom in absence of malice fifty years ago it's not what he said, you're putting words in his mouth sometimes there's a day that he could be approached like nine times in a single day yeah, I mean everybody wants to know what was Paul Newman like, how was Sidney Pollock to work with. I've always wondered. Yeah and he was great. You know I tried to stay away from him. I'm a young actor at that time. You know I'm in my
Starting point is 00:08:16 late 20s I think but it was a great experience. But you know all this time later the movies have left me behind. You i i just don't feel involved i i don't go to theaters i don't like the theater experience uh... i've been to one film in the last five or seven years. You heard what they were just saying on status of the industry where the theater experience pays for everything like if you care about art instead of commerce and i know both of those are in inextricably linked what's happening in hollywood right now will kill the movies unless the theaters
Starting point is 00:08:47 keep it alive right and and what the oscars need to do is recognize that in and resuscitate the whole theater experience by making theatrical releases their own category like i think move movies that come out on netflix or any other streaming service should be in a different category than movies you can only see in a theater. And that would prop up the theater releases as something special. Pete None of this would get you out to the theaters though. John That's right. Pete Well, I mean, that's the thing though, you know, I mean, to get to the theaters,
Starting point is 00:09:19 make a movie worth going to the theaters. John Right. Like, I'm going to watch it on TV. Pete Right. John You know, like, my wife, yeah, I'm a big Bob Dylan fan, so my wife just told me that that film will be available in my home viewing audience soon, and I'll watch it. It's just curious to offer up solutions to save an industry when you yourself say that won't be enough to actually get you to participate in the change that you see.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Look, this is why he's the Hall of Fame columnist that he is. He's built an entire journalism career atop that particular fraudulent Are you a Hall of Fame writer? I am NOT Only Hall of Fame I'm in is the Orange Bowl Media Hall. Are you saying that he has a baseball Hall of Fame vote? Okay, I'm sorry Mike I didn't think I needed to make this clarification in the local hour a Miami Herald legend Greg Cody is for all time in the local hour a Miami Herald Hall of Famer no but they don't actually have do they have one no all right so he is not I'm not look he's Greg Cody is absolutely a 20 year anniversary lebatard show with Stu gots Hall of Famer that's not up for you either we don't we don't Gott's Hall of Fame or that's not up for dispute. That's not a Hall of Fame either. We don't have a Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Is there a Greg Cody show Hall of Fame? You should make one. If there's a Theodore Remind Hall of Fame, I guess. I tell you, Billy, man, he's on the mark. Wasn't your fantasy football league going to start a Hall of Fame? My fantasy, the regular PFI, not PFI fantasy, is toying around with the idea of a Hall of Fame. Really? You know, as it is, we...
Starting point is 00:10:48 By the way, speaking of movies, the Dad's Dynamics Cup P.F.P.I. Championship trophy weighs almost twice what an Academy Awards Oscar weighs. Wow. Like eight pounds to roughly 14 pounds. So I correlate that with, you know, what's got the heft, you know, what do you want to hold? Some would say it's more prestigious, right? Because less people have won a Dance Dynamic Cup than have won Academy Awards. That's right. No question about that. But to Mike's point, yes, I am a proposer. I am proposing a solution to help resuscitate movie theaters.
Starting point is 00:11:22 But I'm an idea man. You know, I'm not gonna participate in saving the theater, but I'm gonna suggest how it might be done. Billy, it's crowded in here today, and I'm gonna need a little better from you than that's why they call me Mark, okay? Just a little. I'm on the mark. Just a little.
Starting point is 00:11:39 You can refer to me as Mark today. But no one calls you Mark. Some do. No. I'm gonna need. They have. Listen to me. It's crowded in here today and I need you to be better. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I'm trying, I'm just coming here. Can I ask you a question? Do you like the Oscars? Because I've got a room here that I'm dealing with today where I think that Jessica's the only one who actually cares about the art of what we're talking about. I don't think any of you actually care about the Oscars at all.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Well, the good thing about the Oscars, right, is that they basically tell you beforehand, this is what we're gonna talk about today, these movies, right? I didn't see any of those movies, so I don't need to watch the Oscars today because what do I care who wins an award amongst movies I didn't watch this year?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Am I failing that miserably to project that I like movies? Yeah, yes. It's a little too much, though, Mike. Talk about Nosferatu more. It's a little too much, yeah. I feel like if you scan the room. Such a good love story for an eternal love story. I lost one. I think you missed the point. Yeah. Yeah, I like movies. I watch the Oscars, watch the whole thing. Also, how do you not have a stamina for a show that's aging older? You said that- Yeah, I'm confused about that too. Cause you said that you feel like you're aging out of it
Starting point is 00:12:45 cause it's a show for old people. But wouldn't you be aging into it? Right, well what I was watching, I said that off air, not on air. What I was watching... But your takes are soaked in this violence. But you sort of said it like 10 minutes ago too when we started the show.
Starting point is 00:12:58 What I was watching last night, okay, because of my changed viewing habits on I'd rather have, and this happened to me accidentally, I didn't expect it, don't give me a three and a half hour movie, give me eight one hour shows and I might binge right through it. I might go eight hours instead of three and a half, but don't tell me beforehand that something's three and a half hours because I don't have the attention span for this anymore. But as I'm watching it with all the pageantry and all the dancing, I'm like, ah, I can see how this would appeal
Starting point is 00:13:27 to a certain demo over 45 that has a romantic relationship with the movies and what the movies mean and what an award show about the movies mean. And I'm telling you that even with all of that as backstory, I'm tuning in because I want to see Conan and not even he kept me there. You said that he was one of your heroes.
Starting point is 00:13:45 What's the appropriate age gap to have a hero? You guys are similar in age. He's a little older than you, right? Can you have a younger hero? Yeah. I think so. Can you have a hero that's younger than you? Cool.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I show speed. You're my hero. He is 61 and I am 56, but I'm just saying that I'm watching through his entire history and evolution, how he fought through the late night wars and was more authentic than any of them, more self-aware about being consistently funny and amusing about himself and being likable enough that at 61 he hosts the Oscars
Starting point is 00:14:16 and I'm guessing he boosts their numbers merely by putting his particular imprint on it because he reaches across 30 years. Well, I thought he was really funny and that his whole premise of I'm not gonna waste your time, it worked. He didn't waste our time and it didn't run late because he was just bullshitting in the middle of the show. It ran late because they did a random 10-minute ode to James Bond that probably...
Starting point is 00:14:38 Not random. What did I miss? Probably didn't need that. Not random. This whole 007 thing is weird. It's almost as if everyone just kind of put to bed the notion that 007 movies are gonna be interesting anymore because the ownership officially changed hands and now it's in the hands of Amazon.
Starting point is 00:14:55 So like everyone's saying goodbye to 007, not because it's going anywhere, but because there's just gonna be more of a saturated 007 market now because they're gonna turn these out. It was weird. I honestly assumed it was like SponCon. Like it was like, hey, remember James Bond?
Starting point is 00:15:13 You're gonna watch it now on Amazon. Well, I wonder as we cheapen the movies because 007 and that entire franchise, you can make the argument whether you wanna go Mission Impossible, Bourne or any of the others John wick It can be argued greatest action franchise There's ever been in the history of the movies when Daniel Craig is asked that you know when he's asked six or five Bonds in what do you care? What what do you think about what they're gonna do with the character next?
Starting point is 00:15:41 He says I don't care because they're gonna cheapen the bleep out of this You know what shut up you die you ruin the whole thing Die James Bond's not supposed to die could do without you telling me about the rest of the franchise When your film is part of the problem worst James Bond ever by the way if we're gonna be honest You know why that's a bad one because he died he died none of the others Did you watch the movie yeah, he died and he didn't come back exactly when Ethan Hunt dies he at least He's died twice guy gets it disavowed and it looks like he's gonna die a third time from the looks of this trail But we don't know no definitely gets disavowed though How many James bonds have there been can anybody name them? Because I stopped watching after Sean Connery.
Starting point is 00:16:25 No. I think all the living James Bonds should get the vote on who the next James Bond is. It's Dalton, it's Pierce Brosnan, it's Daniel Craig. There haven't been that many. Yeah, there have been too many. Okay, but now they're going to be born. And none of them have died except one. You know who died multiple times to come back? Jason Bourne. Dude, that guy's drowned like seven times and still keeps coming back somehow. He's not a quitter.
Starting point is 00:16:47 He says, you know what? I'm not giving up on you guys, the fans. Daniel Craig, quitter, gave up on us. Decided, you know what? I'm gonna be self-looser. I'm gonna sacrifice myself and I'm gonna die. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Loser. Thank you. Okay, you guys are not, again, respecting yet another giant franchise. This happened so much around here where things that have earned fifty sixty years of prestige you guys yawn and spit in the face of because we're better than double o seven you tell me he's died how many times is born died you said that tom cruise is died twice even
Starting point is 00:17:19 hunters i've just been a rather ever have no time to die j Bond? That's what all of them had, except him apparently. He had plenty of time to die. So there have been 25 official 007 films. There's two that are in the unofficial category, but they're satire, so 25 official 007 films. You're not okay with the Bond franchise resuming with the plot twist, oh, he wasn't actually dead
Starting point is 00:17:42 in the last one, here's the plot twist. I don't know how they're gonna dig themselves out of the mess that the last one put us in. I assume they're just going to be like, Hey, forget about that crappy ending. We're starting a new, which everyone's fine with. I'm not mourning the, the, the passing of double Oh seven. I think that they made terrible creative decisions. I'm happy to welcome our new tech overlords. Yeah. Part of the reason why the theater is dying is that, and I'm pontificating as someone who doesn't go to movies, I get the irony of that, but movies reinvent themselves too
Starting point is 00:18:12 much. Like the franchise is killing the theater. Batman films, you know, Marvel. Statistically not the case. Franchises are keeping them afloat. No, we don't like that. Craig, I can't think of a subject that you have less expertise on that. You're going to... The last movie you went to was Swing Vote. No, no, no, no. And there's only one. In fairness to Greg, there was no Swing Vote 2. Right. I saw Rocket Man in the theater. There you go.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Pre-pandemic. Let's do this. Let's do this. Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Can I just send Greg Cody to another room and we'll give him two minutes floor is yours say whatever you want about the movies But for now can we allow that you are the least qualified person on earth to have a strong gas bag opinion on anything movie No, it's the opposite He's the most qualified because he's the one not going to the theater so he can tell you exactly why he's not going marks Absolutely, right. This is a first perspective Okay, this is a friend. Oh wow. I'm an independent thinker. That has to be a fine.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm not beholden to the movies. It is a fine. I will pay a five dollar fine, a new fine for snorting. Greg, go into the other room. I will get two minutes of your talk in a second, please. Okay? I want to get all of your Oscar opinions and I want to I want to have the floor is yours for you would go as long as you can and we'll just help you from in here but in the interim I do want to get Jessica's opinions as someone who cares and actually watched all of the movies so you guys give me no expertise for 20 minutes haven't watched the movies have a ton of opinion what did you watch I'm still here I did not watch I'm Still Here. Well, there you go. You watched all of them.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I did watch about 25% of the brutal list before I realized this is not gonna win, so I'm not sure when I'm gonna do this with my life. But I did watch Nora, I did watch Dune II. I think I watched more than half of the nominated films. I even watched Sing Sing because I thought it was gonna get nominated and it wasn't, and it should have been.
Starting point is 00:20:00 That was a really good movie. Yeah, I think that there were a lot of movies worth seeing in the theater this year, I think that there were a lot of movies worth seeing in the theater this year, Billy, but there's a lot of stuff going on, so sometimes you just don't have the time to go, and that's fine, and now you can stream Anura tomorrow, if you feel like watching it,
Starting point is 00:20:16 because you found it at one best picture. So I thought, I don't know, it was a good night. It was a fun award show, I think the middle part dragged, but that's when I put on my jammies and brush my teeth and wash my face and get ready for bed. So I was, I was content having a good 40 minute stretch where I could just walk away for a little bit. I cease being happy for Adrian Brody about four minutes into his speech because it's a, it's a cool story. 20 years in between wins. His career was thought dead comes back is a two time Oscar winner, that's an elite class.
Starting point is 00:20:45 But then he started rubbing it in everybody's face, like, hey, I've actually been here before, and he's like, real quick, I know how to do this, real quick. And then he goes on the most inefficient diatribe that no one actually remembers or anything like that. It wasn't super poignant, he was trying to be, but he kind of missed the mark. We were all just kind of upset
Starting point is 00:21:00 because they wrapped up the previous person, and that wasn't very fair. Yeah, I thought that the big winner were the last night was people like Mike who were like, I'm gonna watch The Brutalist if it wins Best Picture and then it didn't and now three and a half hours of your life, you get back. So have fun. Enjoy it. Do something fun. This is a message from sponsor Intuit Turbo Tax. Taxes was dealing with piles of paperwork and frustrating forms, and then waiting and wondering and worrying if you were going to get any money back. Now, taxes is easily uploading your forms to a TurboTax expert who's matched to your unique tax
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Starting point is 00:23:57 door. It can be an orchestra tuning up before a concert and the bassoon is a little bit off key and it comes out like that. Stugats! The musical part. It's a beauty. It is a beauty. F*** me. Sorry. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats! The LeBatard Show with the Stugarts. ["The LeBatard Show with the Stugarts"] Brody put everyone off and delayed the entire ceremony. This is what I'm telling you about my viewing habits when I'm noticing they're changing. I'm inside of a portal. I think you guys can understand this. You're watching a show that has always mattered in America and is also viewed as the height of liberal elitism
Starting point is 00:24:48 that separates this country between everything that's burning in California and how the rest of the country views liberal Hollywood. And Adrian Brody gets up there. Now? I mean, they've always viewed it this way. Yes, no, I know. But what I'm saying is that over the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:25:03 we all realize when they tried to keep this annual, very important American symbol of a show up in the air, oh, this is silly to do this now. All of this is stupid. The industry shut down, they're fighting over money, and AI is going to take over soon. This is the last vestiges of America being able to celebrate itself
Starting point is 00:25:21 and what it used to be on television. This show, as here's Hollywood, but it's also being torn asunder by tech people and being torn asunder by streaming and we got to keep the theaters alive and the writers are fighting over AI spaces. Like the commerce of all of this it threatens the beauty of the art and then Adrian Brody gets up in the middle of it in gas bags and people remember why they hate self-important actors. No, they don't hate it. They love it. They love it. It's a celebration of America's celebrating its obsession with celebrity.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Like it's an award show. All of it is silly. All of it is dumb. All of it is them patting themselves on the back. And I think most people are kind of wise to that and admit that this is a guilty pleasure of theirs. One thing that I don't like that they've done for like a decade now, because I guess one of the award show hosts were too mean when it came to respecting the categories, is they do this whole thing where they have either former winners or presenters come out and they list the nominees,
Starting point is 00:26:16 but when it's an acting category, they're like, Stanley, your bravery as you played a cardinal, it knocked me to my knees. Your courage under such circumstances, like they're acting. He should have been nominated by the way. Stanley Tucci snubbed. But they always do that.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Ray Fine snubbed, should have won. And they always end up. Pullman Domingo also should have won. Thank you. They both should have won. Thank you, bravo. And then they just move on to the next one. I'm like, where's the joke?
Starting point is 00:26:41 This is all a great setup. It's very earnest, yes. But I think this year they had to change it for the best actress category because Emma Stone came out and then they were like, where's the joke? This is all a great setup. It's very earnest, yes. But I think this year they had to change it for the best actress category, because Emma Stone came out and then they were like, these are the nominees for best actress, because the actress who played the main character in Amelia Perez was embroiled in scandal and controversy
Starting point is 00:26:56 throughout this entire awards season. Also, another big winner last night, all of the haters of Amelia Perez, because they won for best song, and I think a couple other ones but like none of the big awards and so if you hated that movie which most people did what a relief. If I may this award show for me will always be remembered for its open. I think arguably the Wicked number at the start was the greatest performance I had ever seen at an award
Starting point is 00:27:23 show ever. Finally supplanting Ricky Martin's bursting onto the scene with a cup of life. That was amazing. And that was the previous, Tony remembers. I was a little boy, but I do remember that. Tony, Latin people represent right there. He hit that ceremony with so much Latin that our people were proud.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And thank you, Ricky, for breaking through to the other side. No one had seen hips move like that before in their entire life. But Cynthia, when she got that note, when she delivered the note, I mean, it's a where were you type of moment. This is what I need to say to you.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You need to take it back because nothing will top Ricky Martin and what he did for our people. Did you watch the you watch the number? Mike you need to Mike what about my people? What's going on here? You need to take it back let's go to Greg Cody in the other room get two minutes of unfiltered thought on what is the least qualified man in America to be talking about the Oscars today go ahead Greg. Least qualified man I'm the only one among us who's been featured in a major motion picture Absence of Malice in 81.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Mike's talking about the greatest hips in America. Elvis Presley's hips were barred from appearing on the Ed Sullivan show in the mid-60s or whenever that was because those hips were moving. The Oscars need to, it's funny they have a category for editing because they don't have themselves it's funny they have a category for short films how about a short oscars they need the oscars to be a concise one our award show eliminate all the fluff uh... more wheat less chaff
Starting point is 00:29:03 it there's just too much going on. They eliminated the songs because all five of the best song nominees were awful. So granted, we didn't have to hear that, which is great. Otherwise, it would have been a five-hour show. Talk about a metaphor for the night, the Brutalist. It's brutal watching anything for three and a half hours, whether it's a film or an award show. Come on you if you want to attract the non movieaholic Jessica watched all ten films that were nominated for Best Picture God lover you you could put a gun to my head and I wouldn't do that I'm just saying she would you know no you could offer me a lot of money to watch the brutalist for
Starting point is 00:29:42 three and a half hours I've already talked you down from gun Okay, well, but if I kind of think it you know I mean But if you put a gun to your head if we put a gun to your head you watch all ten of the movies I don't think I would I would play the odds I would assume that the gun was either jammed or had no bullets in it You know those are playing porat. No, they're Well, now you're saying the gun might not be loaded. It's a different metaphor. Yeah. I mean... No, this gun is loaded.
Starting point is 00:30:09 You better watch Anora, bad gambler. Anora, now Anora sounds like it's a terrible name for a film, Anora. But um, and so is the Dillon film has a terrible title. A complete unknown? Yeah, people need to, you know, consult with me on the title of a film or something because a Nora I didn't is it a woman's name what is it nor it sounds like a car I drive a Toyota and Nora you know again I think what she goes by Annie? Okay, that makes sense. But anyway Yeah, these people in back me were chanting my name a couple of minutes ago
Starting point is 00:30:58 They're being silent now while I'm talking which is great. They're like dummies back there, but I'm trying to fix film I am I'm trying to save the theater experience Marshall all of my background in film with Absence of Malice and... Yeah, you mentioned that. Look, I haven't had a role since. We're up to four times this week where he's been talked about that role. Thank you. It's usually ten, pacing high this week. Amin has two movies coming out this year, so you are not...
Starting point is 00:31:19 Amin, you're not the biggest movie star we have around here because you were in the newsroom of Absence of Malice have you didn't speak a line correct it was a featured scene but you didn't speak a line correct nothing I recall no I think they left me on the cutting room floor you know I didn't growl apollic enough you know he didn't give me a speaking line no listen listen you were in absence of malice because you happened to be in the newsroom that day. And you were in the background and you didn't say anything and you've been talking about it for 50 years, but you don't even have a SAG card.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Uh, and SAG. Come up with a better name, a better acronym. Who invents Screen Actors Guild? Come up with a different name so that your acronym is not sag you know when people sag there's like you know have an effervescent acronym something upbeat not sag you know that's another thing I'm gonna fix you know if I'm in charge of the movies I'm full of ideas I'm not a movie fan but that gives me the the perspective the bird's-eye perspective I'm on a ledge I'm looking down at the movie industry I'm seeing what's wrong what needs fixing and I'm on a ledge. I'm looking down at the movie industry. I'm seeing what's wrong What needs fixing and I'm volunteering to do it and and I'm as serious as I can be when I say Cut the Oscars to a concise one hour. Okay now Conan O'Brien was great I watched because of him. I was not let down. He had the great line about the brutalist. It was so good
Starting point is 00:32:40 I never wanted it to end and it never did great line Conan O'Brien is fabulous He's not a hero of mine. I don't know Okay, hold on. Just hold on a second Billy wants to get in here. Give me no, I'm fine here Greg can go I just I wanted to come up I want to I want to volunteer to help Greg fix the Oscars if we can thank you and here's a solution that I have And maybe you know will capture Dan's attention and the attention of many others So what if instead of you know a four-hour five-hour ceremony you release the Oscars on Netflix as a four-part award Ceremony with cliffhangers at the end of every episode you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:33:17 Are you standing something along the lines of and the winner is and then boom are you black screen? I need to see who won that award Greg Greg, are you standing up and sagging? Yes, this is what the sag awards does to you, right? I'm sagging. I'm sagging. The life has gone out of my body, my limbs are limp. I'm sagging, the sag awards. This is what Pollock probably saw on the set.
Starting point is 00:33:42 You don't have a sag award, right? You don't have a sag card? You don't have a cardG award, right? You don't have a SAG card? You don't have a card. I do not, no. I wouldn't have one unless they changed the name of their company. You're not in the union, huh? Greg, come back in here, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I'm pro-union, by the way. Are you? Yeah. All of them? Greg, come back in here. Greg was making fun of me before the show, and it's a good thing to make fun of me for, because I'm at a
Starting point is 00:34:06 Journalistic crossroads today, okay The Panthers the champion Panthers have bestowed upon me and honor question mark honor question mark because i am being invited to bang the drum to introduce the mighty champion panthers before they face off
Starting point is 00:34:33 against a dynasty they vanquished in tampa bay tonight and greg cody thinks that i shouldn't do it means the only one around here who thinks that i shouldn't do it roy and his son and everyone else here's what curating the reason that uh... is encouraging that greg son and roly are there are encouraging me to do this tonight and i don't think i should do it journalistically yeah
Starting point is 00:34:59 now you shouldn't there are a number of reasons why you shouldn't do it you know and it takes a it takes a close friend, to be honest, with someone once in a while. You know, plainly, you're not a hockey fan. You know, you think Roberto Luongo is still the goaltender. You don't know which end of the hockey stick to hold. You don't like hockey, you never watch hockey, you're disqualified from banging the drum slowly.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Disqualified? Well, none of that had anything to do with journalism. No, no, no, no. But I'm getting to that because the journalism thing is ridiculous. This guy used to be a journalist. Yeah, correct. He is right now, if he bangs the drum, slowly. And you have to.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It's all about the rhythm. Don't do it like Dan Marino, he's never lived it down. Had he made the Super Bowl championship, they would have taken his ring away after he banged that drum. The thing you have to do is you have to realize that you are abdicating all sense of journalism by literally becoming a cheerleader for the Panthers, okay? You might as well be on their payroll. Yeah, I don't think I well be on their payroll yeah I don't I don't think I should do it Wow I don't either are you holding out in case like
Starting point is 00:36:09 you work for the Times in two years like what are we talking about here you're gonna go back to the hockey be at some point too much about politics for them Dan's gonna be working for the Hollywood Sun Tatler in five years. Um. We're placing Ed Placedead. He made him say, did you like that one Greg? Yeah, he liked that one. You liked the Tatler? Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:36:29 We're placing Ed Placedead. He went back to it. All right. Hold on. How long has that guy been dead? Hold on. I think Rick Riley has written something more recently than you have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:39 He did. He wrote a book about Trump. Is he still like wandering around in Italy somewhere? I think he's in Tuscany somewhere. Yeah mark mark I'm gonna need you to settle down. I've paid the fine. Okay, it's listed as snort. You got me to snort mark I need everyone here though to back off and just marvel at the majesty That was Greg Cody pulling off art the last six minutes that left him breathless because he's got way too much material We're not gonna have much from him the rest of the show. He just blew a gasket pulling off art the last six minutes that left him breathless because he's got way too much material.
Starting point is 00:37:05 We're not gonna have much from him the rest of the show. He just blew a gasket. He just came out firing on two subjects. He's got more. He's got more on me banging the drum. But I just want you guys as his producers today, because he's gonna be a runaway freight train, I'll show, to recognize that what just happened there
Starting point is 00:37:22 is Greg Cody made himself laugh by mentioning the Hollywood Sun Tatler, a newspaper that's not existed in this town since about 1980 something. Not even. Okay no hold on okay please look up for me the history of the Hollywood Sun Tatler because he right there was talking to the audience of our podcast that he thinks is in their 80s. In their 80s. 1942 to 1971. The Hollywood son Tatler existed in this town for a very small time and Greg Cody then after that made the joke even more
Starting point is 00:37:54 inside replacing Ed Placetet a sports editor of the Hollywood son Tatler he didn't think anyone heard it so he made it again he said it a second time it's not it's a joke that no one listening to this would understand no one remembers who the sports editor was of the Hollywood Sun Tatler in 1971 you simply cannot make that joke here yeah you can because if you don't know you should know and then you're gonna look it up you're gonna Google the name except it's a weird spelling on his surname so you're not sure how to google it
Starting point is 00:38:27 but uh... subscribers is the call at the tatler the tell you still and in our lawn at fourteen forty i'd read it before i ever read before i'd ever heard of edwin pope i used to read it place that who once wrote a column criticizing the nba commissioner who had died like three years earlier and he wrote the column is if he was still alive. But where was I?
Starting point is 00:38:49 He wrote the column as if he was still alive. He actually... A very critical column of the NBA commissioner. You're saying he wrote a column about somebody who had been dead? Yeah. Three years already. So wait a minute, who had been dead for three years? That can't be true true what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I think it is. Name the NBA commissioner right before the last couple. Like this would have been going back to the 60s probably. Greg, you cannot be serious saying that a columnist in 1970 wrote a column about the NBA criticizing a commissioner as if you were alive a commissioner who had been dead yeah three years a few years yet set right set right uh...
Starting point is 00:39:34 no that this hollywood's and tell explain the tony what a set right is because you're using yourself there with a newspaper turn i did not understand it's basically an abbreviation for setting the record straight when you when you make a a pretty great right there is something in your own correct getting that uh... set right yeah just before the paper died uh... they were the ones that famously had the headline cody slam pieces drugs
Starting point is 00:39:58 is at the time is a little eager i was the first basement for uh... a team sponsored by adlers drugs uh... i wore uniform number nine because that was my mother, her favorite number. And I still have that headline somewhere in my house. But I just, I'm a little dumbfounded because Dan started the day by being like, the Oscars are too old for me. And then we've, but that we've been doing this.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah. I don't think you should bang the drum after this segment. and then we've been doing this. The Tatler. The Tatler. Yeah. I don't think you should bang the drum after this segment. What are your thoughts here on what I should do? Because he's brought to me a conundrum that I have considered here and he says this is ridiculous for a number of reasons. He's just getting started. If I do this tonight, I will never live it down with Greg Cody.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Greg Cody will respect me less if I do this tonight, I will never live it down with Greg Cody. Greg Cody will respect me less if I do this tonight. I have a possible solution here, and Greg I don't know if you're willing to participate in this, just because Dan's obviously in a bind here where he has to go out there and bang the drum potentially, right? And you think he doesn't know which end of the hockey stick to hold as you mentioned.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Like super offensive by the way. You don't want him to compromise his, you know, journalistic integrity or whatever. So like, what if you volunteered to do it for Dan so that he wouldn't be in that spot? No, that wouldn't happen. You know, that wouldn't happen. Why? Well, first of all, they don't want me. They could have announced me, but they didn't.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Believe this is a part of a Hispanic heritage yeah right yeah well you know I was you know I was born in Massachusetts he was born in New York who's more Hispanic but I am it's a fair question obviously you are I'm kidding but you know he traced Greg's lineage back far enough Colt a could be you know yeah you do both have French surnames yeah that's true French-Canadian yeah the Canucks actually the French Canadians are the Canadians yeah good point yeah it would connect to Vancouver right yeah well we're on the other side of the country beautiful city though been through there on my way to an Alaskan cruise once really yeah stop normally that's not
Starting point is 00:42:03 the port but in that case it was. Juneau? Anchorage? Where'd you go? What's that little, no, I almost said Saskatchewan. It's a similar- Saskatoon? No.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I'll think of it. I'll get back to you. Please do. Yeah, but- Mark, good work as always. Yeah, it's Saskatoon. He hits the mark. Wait, it's a port in Alaska? Yeah, it's a little town that is floated
Starting point is 00:42:30 only by the... C word. Sitka. Do you still think Dan is a journalist? Been to Sitka. Skagway? Journalism is amorphous now. I don't know who is and who isn't. Is Stephen A. Smith a journalist? I don't know. You tell me. But I'm just saying back in the day, and he knows this, he's considered it, you know, back in the day if you were a journalist by whatever definition, you wouldn't cheerlead either literally or figuratively for the home team. You would try to be honest and fair, but you wouldn't be an overt homer. He calls me a homer. He knows better. I love getting comments like, you an overt homer he calls me a homer he knows better uh... i love getting comments like you're a homer
Starting point is 00:43:08 because i know i'm not and other people think i'm too critical of a team and and somewhere in the middle is is honesty appreciate you making this about yourself yet thank you it's that way right uh... no no no i'll keep looking yeah thank you in the market scale and what do you think this is that way of No, no, no, I'll keep looking. Yeah. Thank you Market Tony. What are your thoughts? It's scagway. Oh, no, Tony. What are your thoughts here? What are your thoughts on what I should do?
Starting point is 00:43:32 I'm surprised that you're actually going to make the drive out to sawgrass You know where it is surprising you're gonna get there on time, right? It's not at the miami arena anymore. Don't get there on cuban time dan because you're gonna miss it My wife has been asking we're going where how far is it? Take a helicopter? What are you doing? Yeah they have a heliport there. So your copter will fit. Can you guys find out for me what it would cost to take a helicopter please because I think if I'm gonna make it not if it if I'm going to make it a special announcement the final selling of my journalistic soul I should take a helicopter. Just to avoid the traffic.
Starting point is 00:44:06 You do need clearance though. Don't think that you can just land a helicopter anywhere that you want. Should I do this? Yeah, it's actually a pretty big honor. I, you would assume that they do this before every game, but they don't. The list of people that have done this is pretty illustrious.
Starting point is 00:44:22 The aforementioned, Dan Marino, Jack Nicklaus, Eudonnis Haslem, Raheem Mostert, luminaries of South Florida sports and entertainment. Didn't Ariana Grande do it? Brittany Griner. I mean, these are heavy hitters, Dan, and you are no doubt heavy. Brittany Griner was booed.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I'll get booed, right? Well, that was Brittany Griner booed. No, it won't be a boo, it'll be a hoo. Hoo. Might be a whoo. Whoo. Might be a kin tonight. Cause it's Hispanic heritage. That's why they call me Marco. There you go.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I was gonna say, how do you say Marco in Spanish? I don't even know. Was it Sitka, Greg? Marco. No. Okay. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:45:02 We'll say rec. We'll find it. I've been to Sitka. You mentioned that. Did I? Yep. Okay. We'll set it right. We'll find it. I've been to Sitka. You mentioned that. Did I? Yep. Okay. Yep, yep.
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