The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The 187
Episode Date: July 29, 2025"I told cancer to get those motherf**kin' ropes outta here." Bryce Harper and Rob Manfred went nose-to-nose over a salary cap, but do hotter heads ever prevail? Plus, we react to Deion Sanders' pr...ess conference in which he announced he has beaten cancer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugats Podcast.
You know, it's late July and typically we're struggling for topics, right?
NFL hasn't really kicked off yet.
NBA is pretty much done.
Baseball, we're still kind of in that boring baseball period.
It starts to pick up in the next couple of weeks.
But right now we're still kind of like, what's going on with baseball?
I don't care. It's right. And so. I mean, Bryce Harper did up in the next couple of weeks, but right now we're still kinda like, what's going on with baseball? I don't care, it's right.
And so.
I mean, Bryce Harper did almost fight the commissioners.
Well, I'm just saying, normally, normally.
Really?
I'm not saying today we don't have anything to talk about.
See, Chris, the setup is.
Nose to nose, Tony.
Typically.
Told him, get the F out of the clubhouse.
Where was Manfred?
Why was he on the field?
Manfred, no, he was in the clubhouse.
Why was he in the clubhouse?
And by the way, Manfred stood on business.
I ruined the mean setup here.
Oh, please.
Stood on business?
Oh, please.
Stood on business.
You're siding with Manfred.
Get out of here.
Wow.
Scab.
I missed a lot.
Yeah, so typically the way this thing works is you zig and then
you zag.
It's like a crossover.
Like, oh, I'm going this way.
No, I'm not.
I'm going that way.
The sham god.
And Chris is like, let's go that way.
And everyone just ran up and ran right
into the teeth of the defense.
Yes, Manfred and Bryce Harper got in a shouting match
and he told me to get the F out
because he mentioned the word salary cap, which is.
He didn't even mention the word salary cap.
No, Harper thought that that's the direction
that he was going in.
Cause Harper apparently said to him,
if you're even thinking about talking about a salary cap,
you can get the F out of my club our clubhouse
I imagine it happened like hey everyone. I think everyone if everyone could just sit down before you had to the field
Manford wants to talk to everyone all right fine
I'll sit here, and he just stands at the center and apparently Harper was sitting he's holding a bat
Oh, yeah, right was he jerking it the way you're doing right now
Well you remember the one time where against the Mar Marlins, and Ozzy Guillen was,
this was when Harper was at the Nationals,
and Ozzy Guillen, who was the manager of the Marlins,
believe it or not, at one point,
and he's yelling something to Harper,
and Harper turned toward him, and he waved the bat,
you know, like he had a deal.
Yeah, like it was his hog.
Got it.
But I imagine he just got,
he got through like a half a sentence,
and he's like, if you happen to mention like just
Yeah, right for it. Yeah, let him get to anything. Yes, like don't you dare? That's how I the word salary cap
Yep, so how to Rob Manfred react
Well, apparently Harper said they're nose-to-nose and Harper yelled to him
If you're even thinking about talking about a salary cap, you can get the F out of our clubhouse and Manfred
Like I said, what'd he do?
Stood on business.
Stood on business.
He said, I will not get the F out of the clubhouse.
Whoa.
And then?
Oh, and then, oh, apparently then Nick Castellanos
decided to-
Get a home run?
Well, yeah, well, of course.
Nick Castellanos decided to then, you know,
kind of cool things down.
He then, oh, I got a couple questions.
You then ask.
I'm not gonna be deposed.
That was a quote, apparently, from yesterday.
Nice.
We got the sound, just that sound, though.
Nothing else.
I don't like the term cooler heads prevail.
It's a dumb term.
Cooler heads prevail.
Yeah, was it them?
Sometimes the hotter heads prevail.
We never give them their flowers.
We never say, hey, the hotter heads prevail today.
We say, oh, the cooler heads.
They always talk about when they win.
They never talk about when they lose these cooler heads.
No, but I don't think cooler heads prevail
is meaning a side prevailed.
I think it means that everyone cooled down
and so like, all right.
It's two sides.
They're the cooler heads and then the hotter heads.
No, I don't think so.
The cooler heads prevailed.
The hotter heads clearly did not. I'm with Zazz. It means everyone kind of calmed down. No, because the cooler heads and then the hotter heads. No, I don't think so. The cooler heads prevailed. The hotter heads clearly did not.
No, I'm with Zazz.
It means everyone kind of calmed down.
No, because the cooler heads prevailed.
That's why they calmed down.
Because the cooler heads, everyone said settle down.
Stanley Cup Final.
Cooler heads prevailed.
Yeah.
But those are cool.
Don't the hotter heads fight against the hotter heads?
Right, because when you have a hotter head versus a cooler
head, the cooler head is going to prevail,
because they're going to be like, yeah, I don't want that smoke.
I don't want to deal with this.
But the hotter head, now the flame keeps going higher and higher and higher now hotter heads are
Fighting we've all been in a fight where someone's trying to tell you not to fight and
Then you get angry at that person don't tell me what to do hotter heads for real hotter heads prevail
But we never talk about it. Well, I guess I'm gonna keep an ear out for the hotter heads prevailing from here on out
But cooler heads prevailed with apparently with I wasn Apparently. I wasn't there, but apparently.
Apparently, allegedly.
You sounded like you were there.
Well, I just-
You kinda gave us, you took us inside there.
Well, Jeff Passon does excellent reporting.
Yes, he does.
So I feel like I'm there when I read Passon's report.
When you read, you start to imagine the clubhouse
and you imagine yourself in the corner.
Well, no, I know where Harper was sitting.
Yeah?
I know where Manfred was standing. Oh yeah, that's called theater of the corner. Well, no, I know where Harper was sitting. I know where Manfred was standing.
Oh, yeah.
That's called theater of the mind.
Do you imagine maybe some cleats thrown over here,
a dirty jersey over there, maybe some guy on a training table
getting worked on his knee?
Hey, buddy over there is just standing in his jockstrap,
being very disrespectful.
You know?
Put on some clothes, dog.
Our locker room, though.
You're going to come in here, you're going to see ass.
True.
That's how we do around here.
True. That's great we do around here true
That's that's great reporting by Jeff pass. I agree. It gave you all like I was there could smell the smells of the locker room I know but you know if you're Bryce Harper, can we be honest here be honest? They behave like a grown-up
He did mmm. Not really
Not really you gotta gotta you gotta send a
message, a clear message to
that office. We don't play them
games around here, right? You
can't you can't let them for a
second think that we would even
entertain that line of of
thinking. You gotta let them
know. Cuz sometimes. You get
people an inch. They take them
off. Yeah but just letting them
know that you're not gonna be into a salary, which by the way, Bryce Harper, last I checked, doesn't speak for the entire membership, all right?
But even if that were the case.
Yes, he does.
When he talks about no salary cap, he speaks for everybody.
Okay.
Everyone's in on it.
That's a pretty universal line.
There can't be a player that says, salary cap I'm good with.
This spending is a little out of control if you ask me.
What if Rob Manfred was about to say,
guys, I know you don't want to hear salary cap.
Okay, Bryce, can you sit down?
All right, I'm not going to fight you.
I'm not going to get the F out of the clubhouse.
Hear me out.
I'm thinking salary cap where every team the cap is $10 billion.
Oh, this isn't something to fight about.
That's a lot of money.
I don't think we're going to hit that ceiling.
But I would know because Bryce Harper kicked him out of the F-ing clubhouse.
One day you might.
The concept, right?
Because you know why?
$10 billion salary cap, not so bad until you realize what the salary cap is now,
which is unlimited.
It's infinity.
It's infinity right now.
That's the difference.
You made me take a pay cut from infinity to 10 billion.
Got a point.
He has a point?
But then the next year they're like eight.
Yeah, I don't think the counter is,
the salary cap's now 10 billion.
I think the counter is like way shorter season.
Huh?
How about that?
Well, actually, you know, if I'm Manfred,
this is what you do.
They'll never do this, but this is what you do.
Salary cap, but we increase the minimums across the board.
Because there's a lot more of those guys.
No more arbitration.
A lot more of those guys.
You get called up to the show.
But Price Harbor decided we're not even going to hear what you have to say.
Right.
So that's what you need to do.
If you're the ownership, and maybe we'll talk to David Sampson a little bit later about
this, but in collective bargaining, you've got to drive a wedge between the rank and
file and the superstar. Superstars don't want this, don't want that.
Hey, what do you care about whether he can afford
his seventh Lamborghini?
You gotta know who you're talking to.
You're talking to Bryce Harper.
You start with...
Oh, he was trying to talk to him.
No, whole opposite of the theme.
Unlimited zins.
We have a new zin deal.
Hold on, hold on, I'm in.
Hold on, I might be in there.
State subsidized zins.
Kind of got me.
MLB subsidized zin? Is it branded as well? We're subsidizing. Luke Combs is might be in there. State subsidized zins. Got it. MLB subsidized zin?
Is it branded as well?
We're subsidizing.
Luke Combs is gonna play the All-Star game.
Bryce Harper's like, all right, I'm listening.
And so then Bryce Harper is all,
if you're even thinking about it,
we will sit out all 162 games.
Easy for the guy with the $400 million contract to say.
Exactly.
I don't know, can Bryce Arbor go turn over
and ask the utility infielder if he's in on that plan too?
That's my point, you gotta drive that wedge.
Look at us siding with management.
What a show.
No, no, no.
Dan will be so proud.
Davis Sampson's there like, yes, I got him.
No, no, no, I'm not siding with management.
I'm siding with behaving like an adult, that's all.
That's what management says.
You're a cooler head.
You're prevailing.
That's right, That's right.
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I didn't want to start with Bryce Harper, shockingly enough, thanks a lot Chris.
I wanted to kind of set the table of all the things that are happening and start with one
of the last conversations we had yesterday, Mike, about Deon Sanders. About Dion Sanders Dion Sanders who?
Scheduled a press conference that was gonna air at
11 a.m. Mountain time beats me man. I don't know how that works mountain time who uses mountain time
Dion Sanders who put out a social media video of him talking in very very breathy
Like my life in all emotional life, it felt like his life
was in jeopardy type of tone.
And then we got the press conference.
And the press conference is, yeah, he had cancer,
and it was removed, and he's all right now.
And I was just like, okay, I mean,
look, cancer's not a joking matter, it's very serious.
And as I said yesterday, I hope we're wrong,
and it turns out we were wrong.
Deion Sanders is gonna be fine,
and the show goes on as usual.
He's gonna be coaching everything.
But let's preface everything with,
yesterday was a really good press conference, right?
We wanna preface everything with that.
That was a good news press conference, right?
Yes, it was, the news emerging from the press conference
was good. Do as much as you can because I
Know we're gonna be decontextualized here in this segment. Yes. Yes. We love that. Dion Sanders is okay
That's what I said yesterday. That's why I say today. I'm happy about it
Did you guys talk about him and Carucci in the hospital room together?
We did not because we did not have any of that information and Because man, when I saw that, I was like, huh.
Yeah, that was another thread.
That was another good news situation.
Good news.
Good news for Coach.
Good news for Deion Sanders.
Good kind of boy coach.
Apparently, Carucci.
I know who that is, but tell Billy.
That's who Deion Sanders is dating.
It's Carucci.
You got it now, Billy?
Yeah, I'm all caught up.
Carucci Tlan.
Thank you, Chris.
She's a singer and actor. And model. Some people are just up. Thank you Chris. Kouchi Tlan, she's a singer and actor.
And model.
Some people are just famous.
She's famous.
She's famous.
She's pretty.
But she's talented.
She been in anything I've seen?
Talented.
Probably.
IG?
I've seen IG.
Okay.
There you go.
What was that show?
It was a TNT show with Brazilian idols.
Supernatural. No, the one with my homegirl. Franklin and Bath. I was just gonna say that. My homegirl. Show is a TNT show with uh with supernatural no
with my homegirl Franklin and bad
My homegirl
Charmed him and homegirl from Reno 9-1-1 man. She was in it and then it kind of like a claw claw
There you go. She was all his Bel Air
Bel air shoes in Bel Air who'd she play? I don't know didn't watch it. I'm just googling. What's claws claws claws is like a show
It's also with the guy from it's Hank for Breaking Bad
Pimp or something else along it was a nail salon
Yeah, nice yes, I thought you meant you mean Steve. Yeah, I was like
Nicey Nash yes, nicey Nash was the. Karucci was one of the people on the show
where he's on the nail tech,
but there's also this crime happening
out in the nail salon.
They're kind of like a gang together
and they do certain things.
Money laundering, something like that.
It was, it had to run.
I liked it.
I liked it.
So, but these are all kind of tangent conversations
from what felt like maybe an overplay
the day before before right before the
I feel bamboozled a little bit
It felt like he was trying to set a scene and then undercut it
Can we play the video hit it given his commitments to his family and to the team?
Elected to undergo a bladder removal
We performed a full robot assisted laparoscopic bladder removal and creation of a new bladder.
And I am pleased to report that the results
from the surgery are that he is cured from the cancer.
You can clap, it's okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's weird, man.
It's a little weird.
It's the best, right?
It just. It's a little weird. Dion's the best, right? It just, ah.
It's a little weird.
You know what, if it had come,
if everything that had happened yesterday
prior to the press conference, so,
was just, hey, there's gonna be a press conference,
and then the press conference happens,
I'll be like, that's great news.
I think the part that feels a little bit like a...
Was it the 24 hours where you thought
that Deion Sanders was gonna die?
It was just the social media video.
Because he put out a video that led you
to believe he might be dying?
And then the press conference is,
there will be a press conference at 11 a.m. Mountain Time,
which beats me what time that actually is.
It's Deion Sanders and his medical team.
It sounds like you guys are upset that he made you
eulogize him beforehand.
I knew this was going to happen.
You guys feel bad that you wasted a eulogizer.
No, that was a great news press conference.
And I knew Billy would jump right in there.
I didn't do that, Billy.
I think the video suggests.
I mean, it's not fair.
I think the video suggests that people didn't know
how to react when he's saying you can clap
because everybody was over there expecting the worst.
Why did they expect the worst?
Because he said it up that way.
Because Deon Sanders made you expect the worst.
And like, it's a cliche.
This could have been an email a little bit.
It could have been a press release
where you established that this was something
that he was dealing with,
and then people could prepare their questions
and we could have a big triumphant press conference
in which it just led to a lot of confusion
and he's a brilliant marketing mind.
And I don't know, it just missed me with turning this
into a marketing opportunity.
I guess he must have been really negative recruited
on the road about his health.
It was kind of known in college football circles that he was dealing with something serious
So maybe he took the opportunity to spin it into it like a triumphant win
But I don't really know the whole deal about setting people up to think that you were dealing with something that
At that very moment that you may actually die like I'm not making that assumption
I was worried about that video that we played yesterday
because it would lead to wild speculation.
Mike, can I give you my usual suspects moment?
I sat back in my chair, I saw it at the press conference,
and I was like, wow.
And then I started looking at the proverbial bulletin board
in front of me.
And on that bulletin board was the video
that you're talking about, the social media video
where he's very emotional and he's talking about,
man, like, I have to make my will and all that.
And I remembered one thing from that video.
It was very faint, it was in the background.
Most people didn't pick up on it.
This man to my left did.
It's like, this is a very, he says,
there's a very serious thing,
and then someone in the background laughs.
And Zaz said said apparently not for
that person and I was like a funny little throwaway right and at the time I
thought well it's clearly in the background it's a different room people
are having a different conversation but if Deion Sanders was dying from cancer I
don't know if we're making jokes in the other room even about anything else we're
not talking about the latest episode of Always Sonny. That was a dead giveaway. That's a
dead giveaway that it's he's alright. He's got a he's got a
show right? Coach Coach Prime has a has a show so he's obviously documenting a bunch of stuff and
maybe that was something that they documented from from that moment. I doubt it was something
that he recorded two days ago. Otherwise that would kind of be a little sinister in terms of letting people think that you were dying,
just to ta-da, psych, I'm okay.
But I thought that the reaction that he got
kind of explained where everybody's heads were at,
which was just like, okay, you're right,
it just takes a second to process.
The media, as far as I know,
we're the only people kind of taking this angle with it.
The media had to be responsible and overjoy
that Deion Sanders is okay.
I'm happy.
I don't think we're the only people taking that angle.
I think maybe we're the only people willing to say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was kind of odd.
It was a marketing move for a marketing genius,
one of the best marketers in the history of the world.
Again, great news press conference.
Yeah. Love it.
Yeah, I didn't know exactly how to react to it initially
just because he confused me.
The question is, when he was cured,
like a week or two ago, was there like a conversation
he had with his people of, let's put this out
that sounds real dramatic to tease the press conference
and then the next day I'll show up in a cowboy hat
and say I'm fine.
Well, Chris, before we answer, that's a great question,
but everyone here has expressed how happy they are.
Billy, I haven't heard how happy you are.
No, it's good.
You're not happy about this?
It doesn't sound like you're happy.
No, you guys sound upset that you look kind of like,
you eulogize him for no reason yesterday.
Like you guys are bummed that,
like he didn't come out and say he was dying.
We're just reacting.
Is the tone that is like coming out, whether that's what you guys intend or not.
It sounds like that's what your reaction was to the press conference.
Like, man, he made me think that he was dying.
And now I feel stupid.
What a waste of a press conference.
Honestly, my takeaway from the press conference is he can pull off overalls.
How about that?
He can pull off some overalls.
We're being perfectly honest because we didn't know what to expect at the press conference.
The whole thing had kind of an ominous tone going in.
Once Deon walks into that room with all the media sitting there in a cowboy hat and overalls,
before he even sits down, you gotta be like, oh, this dude's healthy.
Yeah, like that's not, his dude is, this is gonna be okay.
Let's be perfectly clear, another weird part of that press conference is he's still very
much recovering from this.
His life is going to be deeply impacted.
He said, I'll keep it real with you, I can't pee the way that I did before.
And no, I think you're totally on the wrong side when you say I'm disappointed that he's
not dying.
No, I'm disappointed that I didn't know he was going to be okay when he knew he was going
to be okay for him
That's the same thing like no, it's not no, it's not
Maybe he didn't know though. Maybe he didn't know and then he found out after he's like, all right. I'm good
He had bladder cancer. He had to have his bladder removed. They put in a new bladder
Like he's still not good. Like he's not out of the woods precisely
Well, I mean all these things should have been addressed on the front end so people could have their questions.
But he's not family of ours.
Like, let him release his medical information
how he chooses to.
I hear you.
He is well within his rights.
He's well within his rights to make it
into a marketing opportunity and make it a spectacle
however he wants.
And I am well within my rights to be totally confused by it.
How does he pee?
He says he can't pee the way that he used to,
that there was talk that like,
he may need a porta potty on the sideline.
I mean, this is his bladder.
Are we talking about like frequency,
or are we talking about the actual mechanic
of how the pee exits his body?
He's got a brand new bladder.
I imagine there's a whole bunch of new challenges
that come with that. How do they connect that stuff?
It's all plug and play, baby. It's all plugged in. All plugged in, like unplug this one, you get like a hard drive. Put that come with that. How do they connect that stuff? It's all plug and play, baby.
It's all bolted in.
All plugged in, like you unplug this one,
you get like a hard drive.
Put that one in there.
Smack it right in there.
Put this on the side, okay.
Oh, that one.
It's all ball bearing these days.
By the way, I wanna object to something you said.
I know.
We didn't eulogize him yesterday.
We didn't talk about, eulogizing,
we didn't talk about his life
and how great he was and all this stuff.
We just talked about like,
this is a really weird scenario.
And that's all we said. No, I mean, yesterday we is a really weird scenario. And that's always happened.
No, I mean yesterday we were making it seem
like he was gonna die.
Which is what, based on the video,
like it was a conclusion that could be drawn.
We were speculating based on the information.
Yeah, that he put out there.
Yeah, we were speculating based on the information
that he had been providing.
And then he made it seem like it.
Yeah, I mean, he could've.
I wasn't guessing that before.
He made it seem that way. We were reacting guessing that before. He made it seem that way.
We were reacting in kind.
He did have to make a will.
He did have cancer.
Yes, but not the day that he posted that video,
which just led to a confusing experience
for people that were deeply concerned for Dion Sanders
and wondering what this was all about.
How dare he? How dare he do was all about. How dare he?
How dare he do this to us?
How dare he beat us?
See?
I told you.
That's absurd.
Just not thoughtful for people like us.
You know what?
I don't want cooler heads to prevail all this one.
Hotheads, join me!
Join me in denouncing Deion Sanders.
I mean, it's irrefutable.
He knows how to get people talking. It's like this is something
that other coaches have dealt with in the past and they go about it a different way
and coach prime is going to handle it the way that coach prime handles it. I think people
can be confused by it, but ultimately he's healthy. He's getting a lot of attention to
the cause. I'm sure good work will be done from this. And at the end of the day, it's kind of like, okay,
we can disagree with how we went about it.
We can feel like, oh, you kind of played us, Coach Prime,
but he gets the last laugh and hopefully
he gets to be healthy.
The thing that's weird about this situation, right,
if you're like, well, he wanted to like, you know,
publicize this, make it a PR thing or whatever.
I don't know the intentions of putting out the video
and then having a press conference and announcing,
I'm okay, I'm gonna be good, I'm still coaching.
Like that's weird, that is weird.
But we, no, but like what I'm saying is,
is if you believe that all of this was like just a PR play,
then to me it's kind of weird that we didn't know any of this was going on on the
front end and you weren't part of like this journey.
Like hey, I was diagnosed with this, I'm battling this, like come behind me, let's support this,
let's fight this together.
I would think that he was actually very scared with the situation, which is why he wasn't
kind of talking about it publicly.
And now once that he's, you know, seems to be on the mend, seems to be in the situation, which is why he wasn't kind of talking about it publicly. And now once that he's, you know, seems to be on the mend,
seems to be in the clear, because even with cancer,
like you can say we eliminated cancer,
but you have to do like screenings every year,
every couple years, and there's years before you're
like declared actually out of the woods,
because it could have spread to some other part
of the body, right?
You could have a successful surgery,
and then you can have cancer reappear years later.
That happens all the time.
So for him to not kind of include people on the front end,
I would think is an indication,
he was actually scared and thought this could be it.
This is why I did a will, I thought it was dying.
Oh, it was very clear that he was scared about it,
and people can, I certainly understand wanting to go through that
in private.
I did talk to some people that cover college football
and I had some questions about why this was.
There's plenty of reasons to keep it secret.
Some of them could be personal,
some of them could also be professional.
I mean, as cruded as it sounds,
this is largely a game of talent acquisition
and there were a lot of coaches
that were kind of seizing on what was going on with his health.
So you think he may have done this for that purpose?
I think that's probably the main purpose.
I think that, yes, from some of my conversations,
I think he spun this the way that he did
because it was kind of like a triumph
and like bucking back at some of the other coaches
that were maybe negative recruiting
against Colorado a little bit.
All this, the way that this all went down
did lead to speculation,
people still trying to understand his motivations behind it.
In that case, I denounce these other coaches
who are talking shit about this man
while he fought cancer. How dare you you animals. I think also like this
is not important at all when dealing with his health but like this is also a
big win for the people like yeah Deon doesn't actually care about Colorado
he's just gonna bounce as soon as like his guys are out of there like he's gone
because this was a perfectly reasonable reason to just say I'm kinda done with this situation.
Kids aren't there anymore.
Yeah, kids aren't there anymore.
I rebuilt this program, like I did what I said
I was gonna do, like I need to focus on my health now.
It's like an urban mire in a sense, right?
Where it's like I'm gonna kinda step away now,
I'm gonna rebuild my health, then like I'll be back
in a couple years maybe if I'm feeling up to it or not.
But like he has gone through this.
He's recruited, he's done all the media days,
and he says he's gonna coach this year.
Yeah, which is why I think he kinda took this angle.
The only thing that I don't really quite get
and am confused by was that 24 hours there
where he, specifically he, led people to believe
his life was in grave danger
Between the time he released that video and the press conference and it led to a really strange reaction to what is very clearly
Overwhelmingly good news for Deon Sanders
I mean anytime you hear the c-word you're gonna be kind of scared for your life No matter what I've had the c-word twice and it's like yeah when really bona fides
Yeah, man, when you've when you've heard it you're like, oh, okay shit. All right, we got a kind of
What was that like the when the first time the first time I was five so I don't remember
I was I was in my mid-20s and that time I was like damn. Okay, that's so what was the lead-up?
The lead-up was I found a lump under my arm. You're like you just in my mid-20s and that time I was like, damn, okay, that sucks. What was the lead up?
The lead up was I found a lump under my arm.
You were like, you just, like, lotion?
I was on the couch, just hanging out, watching a game.
I didn't have a shirt on, I was up in Connecticut,
and I kind of felt something under my arm.
I was like, oh, that's weird that I don't have that
on the other side.
So, called up my parents, obviously knowing the history,
and I was like, hey, I got this,
I don't know what's really going on,
we can go check it out at the doctor that we go see.
So I did, and they were like, yeah,
a normal 27-year-old guy
doesn't have that.
So we've got to check that out thoroughly.
And then I did a biopsy, and then stuff came back.
And they're like, hey, yeah, you got the C word.
And I was like, damn, OK, what do we do?
All right, you've got to do this, you've got to do that,
whatever.
But you're still scared, even though it wasn't a life
threatening place or life threatening cancer.
It was like, shit, now I've got to do so much stuff
to just be normal again, it sucks.
That's always the move, right?
If you feel something on one side of your body,
you gotta check the other side.
You gotta check the other side, like,
nice, I got it there too.
But then I'm worried, like, damn, I got it in both,
all right, I gotta fix something out here.
I got a lump in my back that I've had for like seven years now.
No, that you're okay.
That's too long for it to be back.
That's what the doctor told me.
I think that's not how that works.
I think that's the rule. I would check that. said like how long have you had a little while back though
We're in the back right my lower back right here lower back. Yeah, I think you're good alright
You're not screwed by now. So it was so that's also not necessarily true. I'm a doctor
It's true. He is a doctor you do a lot doctor judge. What else lawyer also race war expert Oh, wow, that's why he's got this as little mansion though man. It's true, he is a doctor. You do a lot. Doctor, judge, what else? Lawyer also.
Race war expert.
Race war expert, yeah.
Oh wow.
That's why he's got the Zazzle mansion though.
Man's got multiple jobs.
Yeah, how you think I pulled this off?
Multiple streams of income, right?
But, so, we're glad that Dion is okay.
Can I ask you real quick too,
what was it when you were five?
Stage four, Hodgkin's lymphoma.
Stage four?
Isn't that like, that's like,
yeah, stage four. Stage four! that's down 40 in the fourth quarter
Yeah, you came back. What came back to come back?
Confidence oh you
Know what how do you like that? Yeah to the haters how you love that? You're like a special boy. Thank you
So I've been trying to tell you guys you guys don't listen to me. Oh man
Do you understand what that is that That means that's it, man.
They started to run the credits and everything.
It's like, shh, shh, shh, shh.
They got the ropes out.
What did I tell them?
Put those mother-fucking ropes back.
This is a true story.
It happened right here in my town.
One night, 17 kids woke up, got out of bed,
walked into the dark, and they never came back.
I'm the director of Barbarian.
A lot of people died in a lot of weird ways.
We're not gonna find it in the news because the police covered everything well up.
On August 8th.
This is where the story really starts.
Weapons.
Don Lebatard.
Chris Cody does an impression, just be careful.
Dangerous game.
This is a dangerous game.
I don't wanna play this game.
No, he was saying,
man, I could do such a great Kendrick Lamar.
Oh, I don't wanna play this game.
He's like, man, I can talk to you.
This is who we're gonna trust with this.
Amin, you do it.
Let's let Amin do it, I think.
Stugatz.
I think you could do it, Chris,
cause you did a great Charles Barkley.
You're one for one there. Did no one just hear the segment
We just did with the mean we cannot be taking judgment is that the council from the local drunk on whether or not you?
Should do the impersonation of a black man stumbling over his words like you don't see the bad
Moe's a moody moody Moses
There was mose and moody moody Moses
Be careful man, we gotta like we cannot do this. It's too close to the line This is where the line is something legitimately funny can't be funny because we're scared our ginger is gonna do something racist by accident
Carry the hell on Dan
Rachel Dan the line is where we feel alive though
This is the Dalibot our show with this two gods
All right, so
Let's move on to something lighter still in the father full. That was a smooth transition, I gotta tell you.
I know.
Let's talk about something else.
Let's move to something lighter.
Ryan Samberg.
Wow, okay, that's, no.
That one came out of nowhere, huh?
Guys, don't do this.
Don't hijack it to get it somewhere sadder.
We want, it's one way this way, one way that way.
You're having a reckoning with the chair today
because you're usually one of the people
that are making the tangents and make it impossible for the person in that chair. Yeah, well, one way that way. You're having a reckoning with the chair today because you're usually one of the people that are making the tangents that make it impossible
for the person in that chair.
Yeah, well, come on, man.
It's a day of reckoning for me.
Day of reckoning.
That sounds like a movie.
Is that movie called Day of Reckoning?
There has to be a movie called Day of Reckoning.
There has to be, and it has to be Cinephobeligible.
But we're talking about football,
and on our screen here we have all the channels,
all the different shows are on.
And first take is on.
Really disrespectful tribute to Ryan's degree. I mean, that was it. You didn't even see RIP or anything.
It says you're the person that did that.
Well, you know what? So, you know what? I'll fix it, Amin.
Thank you. I was fixing it, but go ahead.
Pull us back.
I mean, we talked about Ryan Sandberg passing,
and you said Day of Reckoning, which is kind of like,
that's not the tone.
A movie that came out this year, by the way, 2025.
There you go.
Really weird week for me, because, you know,
we did the Hulk Hogan stuff last week
and Hulk Hogan was a childhood hero of mine, you know?
And Ryan Sandberg was my favorite player growing up.
And so in the span of a week, it's like,
these were two dudes who for me, I'm seven, eight years old.
He was my favorite player.
I loved the Cubs.
So we didn't have a team down here.
There was no Marlins, you know?
And we had WGN, which was on-
Everyone had WGN, which was on.
Everyone had WGN.
Right, and by the way, the Cubs played during the day,
so as a little kid, I loved the Cubs,
and I loved Andre Dawson and Mark Grayson,
Sean Dunstan, but Ryan Samberg, he was my favorite,
and so, I don't know, I guess we're at that age,
and now obviously he struggled with cancer
for a while on and off, but I guess we're at an age now
where like the childhood heroes.
I thought you were gonna save it.
Well no, I saved it by giving a nice.
You just made it sadder, what are you doing?
No, no, no, I saved it by giving a nice little.
Yeah, that was nice.
I said nice words.
That's nice, I wanted to.
Save it, you wanna bring it back to life?
How do I save it?
He also like relatively young, he was 65.
He had cancer.
Yeah, no, he did, he had cancer,
but it's one of those things
where you weren't expecting yester to find out like hey.
All of a sudden it flashed on the screen
with the marbles, what?
And it was everywhere. Yeah. Anyway. It's a bum bummer sorry I mean back take it away I mean your jokes
yeah funny guy go ahead so on get up Ryan Clark is on and I don't know where he's coming on from
but his background the way he looked on the screen and if we could throw it up on the screen
it looks like he was at a CVS getting his passport photo taken.
He's behind the white screen.
Right, like that's, you know what you guys know,
it's right by the fridges, right?
By the photo area that used to be a bustling part
of every pharmacy, but now it's like,
it's a ghost town there.
Dead.
No one's around there.
You used to go and like get your blood pressure
at the pharmacy, oh I love that.
You'd get your arm in that machine?
Yeah, I would go and I would sit there.
I was a little skinny, skinny boy though.
Oh, that hurts!
Yeah, but a lot of times, because I was so skinny
and I was young when I was doing it,
it would go and it couldn't read my arm.
My arm was so skinny, the blood pressure,
I was just gonna do it.
Yeah, I'd stick it in and then I would push the thing.
And then go,
Mwaaah!
And I'm like, man, I hope it takes a long time
for my grandparents or whoever to pick up this medicine
so I can finish with, it was a game for me.
I'd sit down and I'd try to pull it out
and see how hard I could take the pressure.
Guess I was the only one.
Go on.
So yeah, so but it made me think about the pharmacy
and like I said, what was once a bustling business,
the photo development part of it, right?
You would go there and they would develop photos
and then in later years you could scan photos.
It was like the opposite, right?
This is how you get your photos digital.
You go to the Walgreens or the CVS
and you put your stuff in there
and now everything becomes on the digital side.
And I'm like, that stuff is done.
It's over, my kids don't even know
what that section is about.
That's just a deserted area with a desk
and they sell like headphones back there.
If you need something, you're waiting at that counter
for a while.
Yeah, you gotta push the button for someone to come
eventually and help you out.
And they show up and they're like, yeah.
Do you order photos, like I've ordered pictures
to be printed there.
All the time.
You know what happens, and I don't know if this happened
to you guys, sometimes they don't cut them.
So like if I order like a four by six or something,
they'll print on a five by seven,
and I just get like a white bar on the top,
a white bar on the side.
And it's like a little DIY project that I have now,
like what's going on here?
Then it's gotten better,
because at times it was like they would print them,
and they wouldn't be centered.
And it'd just be like, someone's head is missing from this photo did
anyone look at this at all before you just handed this to me it's like no we
don't look at them anymore like that's not a thing I miss when you used to
take the film in and have to wait like an hour one hour photo when our photo
was one hour photo is like like having no idea what the photos are gonna look
yes I kind of do I miss the thrill of not knowing if it's a good photo photo is like a step up. You miss having no idea what the photos are gonna look like. Yes! I kinda do.
I miss the thrill of not knowing if it's a good photo or not.
Ooh, let's take a look at you!
You got the pouch with the photos.
Then you'd also go through the photos
and you would leave some, you're like,
nah, this one, I'm not taking this one.
I'm not paying for this.
And there were doubles of everything.
Yeah, and then you had the negative
and you'd hold it up to the light and you're like,
I gotta save this, if I ever wanna reproduce this photo,
I'm gonna have to bring this in
to Echards to have this redone.
Yeah, I missed that.
I was talking today about how I miss beepers outside.
Yeah, we've advanced too far.
One, four, three.
Yeah, miss it.
9-1-1, 9-1-1 was the one?
I got page 9-1-1.
It was so rarely a 9-1-1.
Oh, it was.
So rarely a 9-1-1 when you got that text.
No, like the actual purpose.
Yeah, when you got a 9-1-1 text and you called back,
you're like, this is not urgent. You don't understand what 9 911 text and you call back you're like this is not urgent
You don't understand what 9-1-1 means. We're getting a pizza. What's the topic?
Yeah, not a 9-1-1 that kind of is a 9-1-1 depending on the situation not a 9-1-1 now. What are you coming home?
Days man, then you'd have to you you would text people was that nine thousand nine, right?
you would text people was at 9009, right?
Yeah, or 8008. Yeah, or 8008, oh, 8008.
You guys old enough that you used to go over
to people's houses to see slideshows of their vacations?
That never happened to me,
but I know that used to be like a form of entertainment,
like come look at us, the riches, and look at us.
We went to Europe, here's our slideshow, you poors.
Is the family called the riches or?
No, no, the family is the riches.
They're the rich family and then they go,
Richie Rich, great movie,
we're not gonna talk about that thing.
He's on Cinephobe, we did it.
Had his own McDonald's.
Yeah, he did.
You ever get that A23?
What's that, that was my Cub Scout troop.
What does that mean, something nasty?
Thinking of you.
Thinking of you, wow. Shout out to Pac A23. You ever get that 157? That was my that was my cub scout troop. What does that mean something nasty thinking to you?
Shout out to pack a tooth you ever get that 157 now, it's a keep in touch. Wow
Translation what why is it 157 keep it? I didn't make the rules man. You ever get that 637
always forever
You ever get that 187? Oh, that means I'm about murdered means
Yeah, means I'm gonna kill you. Yes, let me see that. How you gonna do that?
Damn, that's like a deadly game of paper. There's a rock if I ever something like packing cigarettes, right? I used to want to smoke because I loved it. I feel like a good pack
Seems so cool, right? Oh my god, what's happening there? I don't know people just want to be Joe camel
It's like weird just some camel and jeans and like a you know, John Travolta looking camel and you're like I want to be that
camel
What was the actual thing they're accomplishing in that?
Smacking of that 855 NBA jump if you know why people used to pack cigarettes
Let us know call
I think it just like keeps them all down in the pack right cuz sometimes they get loose and they move down like tightens up
The tobacco. Oh, maybe that's a tight,
I think the point was just to make,
it meant that like you're not like a noob.
You know about cigarettes.
By the way, on that point,
I remember when you could go to a pharmacy
and buy cigarettes.
Can't do it anymore.
At least in some places. Really?
In some places they stop selling cigarettes.
Like don't sell tobacco products at pharmacies.
I don't buy cigarettes,
but I know that they have other tobacco products.
What else?
Nicotine products.
Dutchmasters.
Dutchmasters, oh.
Why are you buying Dutchmasters?
I just saying, I don't know.
White owls.
Do you guys smoke?
Optimo.
I used to love the old school SIG machines, man.
Swisher Suite?
Oh, they still got one that mama tried.
Love.
Right by the bathrooms.
You pull the lever, you had all the different kinds.
I love an old school SIG machine.
You go Lever. Lever, Lever, Lever. Yeah. It's a lever. I say all the different kinds. I love an old school seat machine. You go lever.
Lever, lever, lever.
Yeah.
It's a lever.
I say it the right way, lever.
Lever alone.
Better not get that 187.
What, you start packing your cigarettes that you got
from pulling out a lever, lever?
Think about sending you a 187 right now.
Okay, David Sampson's up next.
