The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Best Play That Never Happened

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

Jeremy is wearing a lamp shade on his hesd for todau's show whoch makes it very difficult to type today's descriptipns. After Dsn tells us about the longest weekend of his life, the Bulls-Chiefs game ...has everyone revvvving and ready to go after Kadarius Toney had an offensive offsides to cost us one of the ciilest plays in NFL history. We discuss Pstrick Mahomes' fruatrations postgame, Travis Kelce and Taylor Swoft, the NFL referee inconsistencies, and more. Then, the "What Can Sean McDermptt Do To Get Fired" game, Steve Kerr and the Suns DJ trade jabs, and the Rwvens show us why they might get questioned in the playoffs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugats Podcast. I am apologizing to the audience right off the bat to God's because this is one of the longest weekends of my life. I am coming out of and I will tell you about it one day in the book if I live long enough and embrace enough to ever write the book about all the stuff that happened to me. This weekend, but I'm tired. I have not slept in 72 hours. Just a book on this past weekend. It could be.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Really? It could be. An entire book on a weekend. Yes, I believe I could write an entire, I believe that my greatest fear professionally, the writing of a book, I believe can absolutely spring from just the things that happened to me this weekend. And I say this as
Starting point is 00:01:05 modestly as you can, it would be a best seller. Really? Like it would immediately become a best seller. Yeah, the chiefs, huh? No, Chris Cody did and I'll get to that in a second because good God he came in here hot today in a way that one can only be if they bet on the wrong side of that game. So we will get to his thoughts on that in a second. But before we do, that Sunday of football was save for three games, an unending stream of shit, and horrible quarterback play. Because the Vikings are on their fourth one and the Vikings are going
Starting point is 00:01:46 to make the playoffs on their fourth quarterback. The sport cannot keep their quarterbacks healthy. Here all about it on God bless football, which Billy has now returned to put out with Stu God's Chris, how much did you miss Billy that you had to do God bless football while Billy was away? Honestly, with what happened with my homes and the chiefs, I was fired up this morning. I wanted to be part of it. I missed it.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I was like, I need to ski. He was kind of like, yeah, he was lingering in the control room. I was like, oh, maybe they'll ask me to come in. If I just walk through, do a quick lap, say hello to everybody. They did not ask, but I got takes. Billy, did you miss the doing of God bless? No, get out of here. Don't even stop.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Now you've got two for him. Okay, well, welcome back, Billy. It's nice to have you back. Jessica's here and there's someone back there wearing a lampshade. Jessica, can you tell me at all, that's a punishment, the lampshade punishment? That person, I heard a mother,
Starting point is 00:02:35 but I could not tell their voice because I cannot talk to that person and I don't think they're mic'd up. That person said, this is a lot harder than I thought it was. That person is editing and I cannot see his or her face That person's wearing coal-hung shoes if that answers your waiting him Close okay, it's not waiting him What is the punishment? It's just a lampshade on your head. He loves lamp. Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:59 Dan I rule the night and fist I come back and we're paying off punishments immediately all right That's good. Really. Thank you for doing that. So you were the pirate last week. Yes. I don't remember that being a punishment, but that was just for fun. Yeah, that's a freebie. I gave you just a little freebie because I like that stuff and I was feeling good after
Starting point is 00:03:16 the wife sent me in wearing it in the book or I mean, not this week. I did not put on the pirate to outfit for the weekend. However, even though because football cannot keep its competent quarterbacks healthy, sorry, CJ Stroud, enjoy the concussion protocol. Because the sport is totally insane, but because it also has the great, great gifts to got of you don't even need Dallas and Philadelphia as the nighttime game to be close. The only two games you got yesterday, Stu got were the Ravens and the Ravens over here and the Browns over there
Starting point is 00:03:54 and everything else stunk except for. A star quarter back in that league is more enraged than you've ever seen him. Travis Kelsey's play, Taylor Swift's boyfriend, makes a play that would have been an all-timer for eternity. And it's turned over by the stupidity of the correct rule. Clearly offside, clearly needs to be a penalty, I mean, that's the thing is I'd rather let us play, man. Like, let us play the game. And then whatever happens happens. Like, the whole door on the flag and decide the game one or another. That's what hurts me.
Starting point is 00:04:35 That's why I'm not going to let the game go. I'm not going to let the game go. I'm not going to let the game go. I'm not going to deciding the game one or another. That's what it hurts me. That's why, like last week I didn't say anything, because it's a nice play, man. Let us go out there and win the game. And I say that rather than let us play and go out there and say who wins. I mean, that's what you want as a competitor is, you practice all week to go out there and try to win.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And you want it to be about your team and that team and see what happens. You don't want to be talking about this stuff after the game. And that's it. Now I'm not worried about if there was a flag on the next player, or whatever, like not a flag. I just want to go out there and play and then see what happens at the end, see what the score is.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And then we can live with the results. That's what we know. You follow a lot of defaults. Do you feel like this is excellent infrectoration to you? Or do you feel like it might be a weak, wide problem as far as the same thing? I mean, the flight today was tough. Just, I mean, offensive offsides, it's something that,
Starting point is 00:05:37 I mean, as, like I said, elementary school, we talk about, you line up, you point to the ref, you're good, you're not good. If not, they come to you, they talk, you need to get off the ball more, you need to be on the ball more, you have a discussion. I mean, point to the ref, you're good, you're not good. If not, they come to you, they talk, you need to go off the ball more, you need to be on the ball more, you have a discussion. I mean, that's the ref job. I mean, you want to have an open discussion so that you can go out there and
Starting point is 00:05:52 put the best product you can on the field. And for him to throw that flag, no explanation, no anything. And I saw the picture, I mean, he probably is barely off sides, but for him to take the game into his hands over a call like that, that doesn't affect the play at all. At all, didn't affect anything. I mean, it's just tough, man. And like I said, man, that's a Hall of Fame tie-in, making a Hall of Fame play that won't
Starting point is 00:06:14 be shown because we threw a flag on front offense of all sides. And so it takes away from not only this game in this season, but from a legendary career that Travis has had. And I mean, that hurts me because know how how hard he works for it He is so very obviously right and he is so very obviously wrong Because to gods yeah, that's not him angry Angry was him after the game restrained by teammates and this is what I'm telling you is happening there and it ain't that there was a call and it ain't that it was a referee's fault. What's happening there is
Starting point is 00:06:51 Hey Patrick my homes look what it looks like now for every quarterback in the league. It's really hard to play that game if everything doesn't go exactly right. Referees do kind of an amazing job spotting the ball correctly which none of us would do correctly. We could spot the ball correctly. Your teammate cost you that game because of an elementary school mistake and you're frustrated because it's really hard for you to get to 17 points now.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And that's all projection. Everything that just happened there, you just saw the real Patrick Mahomesuse had his life made easy and football for a really long time. And he's worried about Travis Kelsey's career and he wants the referees to ref a game in accordance to what they think is best for Travis Kelsey's career. What a joke.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Dan, he has lived a charmed NFL life and the second thing stopped going his way. He's never had to play a playoff game on the road. He's likely if they made the playoffs, going to have to do that this year. Andy knows his team's not good enough. Andy knows his receivers are not good enough. Like it. Man, Stugots, those receivers are terrible. Yes, they are. Like they are. They are awful. Right. But he won a Super Bowl with pretty much the same receiver core as he has. I mean, there are so many more drops right now, Mr. Gotts. I know. So many shitty plays.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But Dan, here's it. Even with the call. And I understand great play. We'll never talk about it. The best play in the history of sports that didn't happen. Okay. I get all of it. Is it? Well, I think it is. It's the one from yesterday. Yes. Certainly the one from the week. Certainly the one from yesterday. Yes. Certainly the one from the week. Certainly the one from yesterday. Yes. I The four o'clock window. I don't even know that we're not going to watch a highlight of that again. Like don't we watch the highlight of him going like parallel to the ground throwing that ball? Wasn't that an incompletion? And we still see that play all the time from him. It wasn't an incompletion.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Wasn't an incompletion? Was the play that I don't think that play counted. I didn't count, but it wasn't an incompletion, wasn't an incompletion, was the play that I don't think that play counted. I didn't count, but it wasn't an incompletion. If it didn't count, it's not a completion. I love this best place. That didn't count. Well, there was also who was a Dolphins player that went upside down the fat lineman that went and he put the ball over the end zone and like that's even his profile pick and that played in count either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I think the best play that never happened was the intercepted spike attempt. Oh, that was great. That was from last week and the best play from last week and but intercepted spike attempt. That was, that was great. That was from last week and the best play from last week. But Dan, they had second and 15. They're the best at second and long. Third and long for the ball. You used to be. They're not anymore.
Starting point is 00:09:14 You know, he's complaining. They still had plenty of three opportunities to get the first down and go on and win that football game and he didn't get it done. So you don't blame the referees for making the right call after the game. I'd like to talk for a second about Stugat's just how dreadful football was yesterday, but they gave us this, this one thing. We can argue, think about what you're watching on Sundays that none of these teams can keep their quarterbacks healthy even though you can't hit them in the head and you can't hit them low and you can't land on them and you can't, you know, can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:09:45 It's crazy. To them. None of them can stay healthy. And the one that we've conceded is the best in the league. Suddenly, people are talking about maybe he's not. And the reason they're doing it is because they lose a close game like that on a technicality. And he gets the media content games to God's eye woke up this morning. I fell asleep for 10 minutes last night in the peace that I had of 72 hours
Starting point is 00:10:11 and I missed everything that was happening in Cowboys and Eagles and when I got up this morning to find out I had a hard time finding it because it was my home's Chiefs everywhere like had had a hard time finding it because it was my homes chiefs everywhere like had had a hard time getting through it because the story of the day was quarterback icon commercial spokesman super bowl champion oh he's wanting like a loser he is he patrick my homes feels like a loser's acting like a loser and he's hiding
Starting point is 00:10:39 behind twit Taylor Swift's boyfriend well i i don't cosine any of that but billy was right. It wasn't incomplete pass in the Super Bowl. The sideways throw that is one of the most famous pictures of Patrick Mahomes throwing a football. It was a great throw. No one caught it. Almost intercepted too. It could have been a horrible decision.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I can't believe it was. How many of those did Josh Allen have? Yes, sure they, by the way, horrible decision. It's where he's fluttering the ball up. Totally reckless. I don't understand how it's not consensus that the chief scouts screwed. The last two weeks, there's a no call on a clear pass interference call. That's no call.
Starting point is 00:11:13 We're going to let him play. We're going to let the players decide. The next week, all right, if I'm going to admit that he was off sides, it's by a toe right or inch. By a toe. His back foot was where the other receiver's front foot was. He was a full person ahead of where he was supposed to be. If you look at where the ball is,
Starting point is 00:11:28 you're judging off this blue line that is not a real line. What? Chris, it's a real line. There's a line in standing there saying, don't go over this line. You know, the blue line is not going across the field. Yeah, we understand that. I'm telling you that it is inches we're talking here.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Right. And then that's a no call. So that's the call We're calling that it's a tickey tech call to decide your game and then a no call on a clear pass interference It's the right call. How much money. Be careful there. Helps the dolphins. You do not want to see these bills. You're going to have to beat them late in December and you're going to have to beat them again if you beat them in December.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Like, I'm not sure you want to see that team. I just everyone here is an agreement. We want that call. We want that flag called right there. The flag was thrown before the result of the play. So like what happened after was irrelevant. It's not like they took the play away. Like they had already made the decision
Starting point is 00:12:25 that was gonna happen. We need an eye in, like why is it that ESPN and these networks can get a referee who's watching from the sky and telling us the right call? Why is there not a guy talking to the referee in his ear? Why is there not a referee in the sky that's like, hey, how would that help in this situation? This is what Carl Shreffers said after the game and this was in from
Starting point is 00:12:46 the NFL pool report it's one of those things we don't want to be overly technical on but when it's when it's in his alignment he's lined up over the ball that's something we are going to call as an offensive offside so that's what the down judge saw he saw that the alignment was over the ball and that's what he rolled on the field that's's what he called. The blue line. What do you mean it's not real? I think he's super emotional right now and he's lashing out when he's the one that's actually using the blue line out of everybody.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I get it, it stinks, but it was the right call and it was objectively hilarious that it was Caderius Tony that did it when he was the one high stepping into the end zone So can we just for a second? relish in our one and only fast switch energy drink player of the week Caderius Tony having two of these during an NFL season come on guys We can't I understand the emotion and I know what what's happening there is misplaced anger. It should be all directed at Cudaria's Tony. Billy, can you please get me real quick the stat line for Cudaria's Tony when he was our fast twitch play sponsored fast twitch player of the week. I had a game. Yeah, keep in mind a lot of what he did in that game
Starting point is 00:13:58 won't show up in the box score. I know, but he had one of them was a drop that's not in the box score. There was return for a pick six six So that will not be in there, but it's among the plays from that game Just I mean Leon let better watch out Chasing him like Don BB is Cateria's Tony Don Lebatard smart stugatz more smart This is the Don Lebatard show with this two cats with this Tougat! That's like, I don't want that called there. No, Chris, I'm with you and I'm with Patrick Mahomes when he says it doesn't really impact the result of the play. There's no real discernible advantage there.
Starting point is 00:14:51 A couple of inches here there, I'm with you, but the rule is the rule. I think they got way more screwed last week and the emotion pouring out of them is not only how difficult it is for his offense to be in those games because he lived a very charm life where everything came super easy for him, but it's just an amalgamation of all the things
Starting point is 00:15:11 that have happened to the Kansas City Chiefs this season, and you turn your attention from Kaderius Tony, squarely to Taylor Swift and tell him you, this is becoming a thing. The refereeing this year has been really inconsistent. It's been something that a lot of NFL fans and reporters are talking about. It just feels like it's been really inconsistent. It's been something that a lot of NFL fans and reporters are talking about. It just feels like it's been very inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And there's been egregious calls like this, I think, was probably ultimately the right call, but it did impact the result of the game, despite the fact that him being offside didn't impact the play at all, as Patrick Mahomes was saying. But like there was a call in the Thursday night game, which we didn't talk about last week, where the Steelers got the Patriots player to jump off sides on a punt, and they would have been able to get a first down and continue their drive and potentially tire or win the game. And instead, the ref called a false start on the punting team, and everyone on the field, and everyone in the stadium, and everyone watching on TV was like, that wasn't the right
Starting point is 00:16:01 call. They called the long snapper for like snapping his head up. Finally, we're getting the sealers past. Thank you. I've been waiting for four days to talk about this game. Yes, yes. Steelers are in the playoffs. You could do this. If the season ended today, I can't understand how...
Starting point is 00:16:14 Could there is a couple of weeks? Everyone else has broken, do you guys... My point is you can make jokes or... I'm sorry, you could argue about the refereeing and these types of calls as much as you want. It doesn't like every single game has something like this in it. It's just, it's exhausting to bring it up
Starting point is 00:16:30 every single time it happens because it just keeps happening. The refereeing is not, the officiating is not getting better. It's just, this is what we have to get used to as NFL fans, I think. Week one, Lions Achiefs, Caderius, Tony, had five targets, one reception, one yard. He also had one rushing play for negative one yard. So he had a grantal of zero yards.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And the pick six that went through his hands. Well, that doesn't show up in the box. No, I thank you. Yes, but Jessica, I'd like to get to the point that she's making stugots because I believe that what she's saying is right in spirit and in theory, the refereeing is wildly inconsistent. And all of us are getting mad about something every single week. Both very true.
Starting point is 00:17:11 This is what I want to ask you guys because everything out there seems like it's moving super fast and like I said earlier, I'm surprised that they spot the ball as well as they do. Like I would get that wrong all the time if I wasn't watching on television and if I I would just think it would be very hard to do. But the thing that I want to ask all of you, because I thought of this yesterday, I don't even know who it was, Stugots. Somebody at the goal line, they kept stopping back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, is his shin down before the ball crosses the goal line. Is the shin down or is it not down?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Is an ash cheek down or is it not down? We watch it a hundred times. All of us have money on these games. All of us have microscopes on these old guys. All of us are waiting for the mahogans screw up. We're all breathing on their neck. It's all moving very fast. The question I want to ask you guys, what the hell are we doing? What the hell are we doing? Like you're going to really do it like that. Is it shinedown? Is it an inch?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Is it two inches? Is it three? You got it wrong, you old f**k. Like you got it wrong. Like is this really what we're doing? 700 replays. Was it an inch? Was it three inches? Hey, why didn't the referee know that was going to be one of the most amazing plays of all time before he threw that flag? But Dan, it's a game of inches. I mean, the chiefs had a spoiled existence in which they were that much better than everybody else in the league that they never had to worry about the reps being a
Starting point is 00:18:46 Huge part of the end result and now they've come back to the rest of the league and I from one I'm super excited to see what Patrick Mahomes has to do to get to another super bowl because he's never played a road playoff game before Can you do it because all the greats have done it? I mean I like this theory like mediocre teams We've had to deal with a call like this, deciding the trajectory of our season. We've all dealt with this before, where you could just blame one little false start or one look, but in reality, your team just didn't play very well.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And how many downs did he have after that to try to get a great score? The three more. Yeah, but we weren't able to convert this. I wouldn't say the team didn't play very well. I would say the builds are really good and we're playing for their season. And Patecheco is out.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And that's, I mean, we know what they look like with Clyde Edwards, a lair and how much Patecheco has upgraded that coming off of one of his best career games. That's a huge part of it, too. But to me, the main story is, I don't really understand what Joe Brady was doing at the end of the game and throwing and not running clock. Have you not seen the Chiefs this year?
Starting point is 00:19:49 Have you not seen how difficult it is for them to score this year? It's not the same. We're 12 seconds is too much time to meeting with the bills. When the bills got that call and they had, and the Chiefs only had two time. This is a middle of the pack offense right now. It's got bad receivers, I understand. I don't think Juju Smith Schuster is the only thing. So I think everybody's getting a little bit older
Starting point is 00:20:13 on that team. When you don't have Pacheco, that takes away a dynamic that that team sorely needs. I just don't think there are all that good anymore right now. You guys want to play a game called what the Sean McDermott have to do to lose his job? Because it seems like he's playing the game by himself and like he survived 9-11. So like, what does he have to do to lose his job? Well, that game would have gone a long way because the rest of their schedule is hard
Starting point is 00:20:41 and they can beat anybody and they can lose to anybody and they're fascinating. Like, I'd be scared of them if I were the dolphins. I'd be scared of them if I were hard and they can beat anybody and they can lose to anybody and they're fascinating. Like, I'd be scared of them if I were the dolphins. I'd be scared of them if I were anybody because they can beat anybody. Their schedule is such over, and this is dating back a couple of weeks now, considering where they are in the standings, every game for the bills is going to feel like that yesterday, which was a huge part and otherwise ugly Sunday in which we all find out who Eastern stick is. I have an unpopular opinion on the Dolphin since you mentioned the Dolphins of Bill Tan.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I love the Dolphin schedule to end the season. I love that they have to host the Cowboys. I love that they have to go to Baltimore. I love that they have to host the bills the last game of the season. Because the whole narrative around this team, the whole season has been, they can't beat good teams. So you're headed into the playoffs with three playoff games going into the playoffs. And here's the good thing about it. If you lose them,
Starting point is 00:21:30 it doesn't really matter that much because it doesn't count. So, practice for the last game. Exactly. Why are you saying it like that? Playoff prep. Right. Dress rehearsal. I am scared of the dolphins in December. I don't trust them. That's good. They've already wanted December this year. Dan, that's last year Did you sell? By the way if you want to watch the dolphins come watch the dolphins with us tonight Where are we gonna be doing that somewhere? Vivo Miami at the Miller Light Stadium Good work
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Starting point is 00:22:12 game of the week. Stugots, this is pretty damn great. The idea that we are doing these microscopic examinations of the judgments of a game that's being measured by chain links. Mm-hmm. The fact that we're doing it after a Sunday in which none of the games were any good,
Starting point is 00:22:34 except for the three, there were three good games yesterday. Everything else stunk, and I'm telling you, the quarterback play horrific. Joe Flacco is presently a top 10 quarterback in this league. He's great. He is one of the top 10 quarterbacks in this league because everyone else stinks. What did he do on Sunday? I wasn't really paying attention. He crushed everybody. Yeah, he's great. Mm-hmm. Jags looking funny in the light a little bit. Anytime they play a good defense, they lose. It's weird. Yeah. The point, well, that's a great defense, but the point that I wanted to make about the games to God's and the referees is we got one of these controversies and none of the
Starting point is 00:23:11 games were close. Like to me, this should be happening more. To me, this should be happening all over the place because you've got get you've got so many of the games are close that anyone call can decide any of these games like that all the games you're watching are in the witching hour like yesterday was shit because we're used to a 345 there are five teams that are five and seven playing each other and they're playing for the last 15 seconds of your Sunday but did you see Vikings Raiders? That was a dude that was a three-point game now. One call changes that game. Minnesota on its fourth quarter back.
Starting point is 00:23:41 The call was to play the game. Don Lebatard. Fall the rain drops, we're lemon drops and gun drops. Oh, what a rain that would be. Stugats standing outside with my mouth open wide. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. If fall the rain drops, we're lemon drops and gun drops. Oh, what a rain that would be this is the Don Lebert are show with this to got
Starting point is 00:24:17 I think we're not talking about enough from this chief spills game last night is what an insanely Reckless decision. Oh my god, Kelsey made like that game. Great. We go down a hypothetical. There's no penalty call. He throws it terribly. It throws an interception. And like we're all questioning how much he's paying attention. The Keltz, the Taylor Swift thing is affecting him. We are doing the Travis Kelsey has lost his mind show today. If that just goes a little bit differently though, he has done. He is, he is very good at whatever the hell that was. Yes. It was, it was a dime and he does have quarterback chops. But if you look at the replay, there's a Bill's defender on the right hand with an inch of deflecting that, then we have a fumble and it is chaos.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I have a prediction that we can revisit in 12 years. I think laterals. I think laterals are just dying to be exploited in this league The hook and ladder and everyone is so afraid of turnovers because if you turn the ball over in today's NFL That has a point value and as we just discussed all these games are so close But I do think maybe a dozen years from now There's going to be someone labeled a genius because he's doing what seems to me to be a fairly obvious thing. You watch rugby. There are all these big plays being left on the field if someone just tosses the ball to someone else and you design a lateral play.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It was honestly the best part of the college football video game was you get a running quarterback and you just call the option and then right before you're about to hit you just pitch it and then you get like a 90 yard right? Oh, yeah, oh, Best part of the billy when they're on to you. You fake picture. Uh-huh And then you had no answer for that They're catching keep or you run right up to the line in a little a little three yard. Oh god Madden was so far behind college football video games Mike Ryan
Starting point is 00:26:03 I was jealous that you got to there before I did because I think it's gonna happen faster than 12 years from now. If I can watch a Dallas Cowboys game where that guy is going forward on fourth down all the time and Dan Campbell is going forward on fourth down all the time when all we're doing five years ago is talking about you got a
Starting point is 00:26:25 punk there yeah five years ago I do believe that we are headed with not not twelve year old twelve years whoever is the next I mean McVeigh is now old McVeigh is is yesterday Belly check is yesterday whoever's the next McDaniel is going to be what watch when Debo Samuel can pitch the ball to another Debo Samuel that That's gonna be incredible. I actually, a couple of weeks ago, I saw a video of a rugby team playing pick-up football, American football against just these presumably American dudes, and they were doing that shit all over the field
Starting point is 00:26:57 and kicking their asses and it looked beautiful. It's, I know it comes with its risk because the ball, as you know, is not super round. And it can take funny bounces. And the coaches are conservative and turnovers have this value now where everyone's terrified to give the ball over. So it's really going to be constipated the same way it was about punting on fork down. They're all scared of criticizing.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Getting the decision criticized. But I do think it'll look different if you actually design these fail safes for these receivers that are doing the lateral and you have downfield blockers in the NFL, it won't get too out of hand because they have the ineligible men downfield rule. It's why any time of running back is getting, you know, trying to turn the corner
Starting point is 00:27:37 and being pinned down for a three-yard loss, they're not just throwing the ball for an incomplete and not taking the loss because they are really good at enforcing ineligible receivers downfield. Why should McDaniel wait because he has the guys? Why not get it to re-kill, get the entire defense go in one way, Waddle comes around, flip it to him and let him go. They've played with that notion.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I think they've already done one hook and ladder play this season. It's just dying to be exploited, but I understand the risk. Do you understand the conflict of philosophy, though? You've got the entire league going in the other direction. Quarterbacks are the most valuable. They're all getting hurt. Valuable quarterbacks don't turn the ball over. My home is turning the ball over a ton.
Starting point is 00:28:14 His value is going down and he's like the second highest paid player in sports after a time and messy. Third highest. Yeah, I think this is where you get results. I think this is, I think the laterals are the NFL version of the corner three Where everyone realized there's all this value there. It's the shortest three pointer on on the court And now you essentially have to run your entire offensive scheme around it. It's just sitting right there for everybody And I hope to see more because it's a super exciting play Chris Cody is so right though
Starting point is 00:28:44 We would have if I hope to see more because it's a super exciting play. Chris Cody is so right though. We would have if Kelsey had done that, not even noticed the Tony penalty. No one would have ever noticed, like yeah, there was a flag on the field declined. Can you imagine the Taylor Swift narrative if Travis Kelsey doesn't throw a laser in between four arms. It's all Travis Kelsey's fault. What's he doing? He's not even that's not smart. That's just reckless. He's showing off. Yeah. He thinks he's a big star. It still might be his fault.
Starting point is 00:29:13 This is too got to do that show like two weeks ago. Three weeks ago. I was just warning a friend about, you know, hey, this is going to come. He didn't do it. He said that I'm just trying to help him out. I'm telling you it's coming for him and my home. It's coming. It's coming today. I do. I can kind of to help him out. I'm telling you it's coming for him. And my home's it's coming. It's coming today. Actually, I kind of understand where my homes was coming from and that that's a legacy play. He's remembered for all times for that play. So the ref should allow it because an inch because of a foot being one inch past the ball. It's a bummer and it would have been a great ending to the game, but also you know how my homes was saying you check with the official to make sure you're off side and there's some kind of dialogue there.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Look at Cudaria's tone. My guy is locked in half of the ball. Chris Cody and we'll move off this subject in a second, but the absurdity of how much we're playing the result here when the ref who called that and none of us have ever objected to that being called it any other time in any other game. The ref who called that did not know that play was coming. Like we are all playing the result on what a bad call that is. You feel great about that right. But how many I threw the flag before I need to play it. You'll hear commentators take
Starting point is 00:30:22 shots at people's intelligence is when there's a pre snap penalty on a wide receiver It's pretty easy line up behind the ball This is what I am telling you those two gods. I am promising you okay if that referee had known Chris Cody I know you pissed off about this But this is what I'm promising you and I promise it you I promise you it from my soul. I know I'm right about this If that referee had been so good that he did know that play was coming, he would have picked up the flag
Starting point is 00:30:49 and just put it back in his pocket. And if he had had that premonition, he would have said, you know what, I'm not gonna do, I've aired, I've made a mistake here. I don't need to call this right here. What if he intends to throw the flag, it gets stuck, he can't get it out, the play develops, he's still trying to get it out, he's trying to, and then he just says, you know what?
Starting point is 00:31:07 Forget it. Yeah, he treats it like an NBA official. That waits to see if it's going to be an N1. Yes. Oh, you got that, you got that buggett, no foul there. It ripped out. All right, we'll send you the camera. Let's just take this flag back.
Starting point is 00:31:18 We would, yes, he'd pretend to be pulling up his pants. He would pant him high on something. Yes. I want to get to Steve Kerr and what happened with Steve Kerr and in stadium noise, in stadium arena, DJs having fun with music. Steve Kerr is complaining here and you will hear it for yourself. He's complaining about the, he's become Stan Van Gundy. No T-shirt cannons. I just want to play basketball. We don't need all this noise, all this racket, all these DJs playing music all the time. Let's hear that.
Starting point is 00:31:47 You feel it. It's a communication. It's playing with force, it's playing downhill, it's playing with great communication. You can hear everybody talking defensively, although in this building, you can't hear anything. It's like a club. It's like a South Beach club out there.
Starting point is 00:32:04 What are we doing? I'm being dead serious. Like I couldn't hear anything because it's like a club. It's like a South Beach club. What are we doing? I'm being dead serious. Like I couldn't hear anything out there. It's just a whole game. It's just thumping techno club music. Can we just have a basketball game anymore? What the hell? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:32:19 He sounds like my dad. I'm bowling there. It is. It's Stan Van Gundy. I can't believe I'm old enough to hear Steve Kirst sound like he's he'll be brown. I mean, these these stadiums do need this pomp and circumstance around it. Otherwise, it can be pretty sad. I went to the next did a game like I want to say five or six years ago and against the Warriors where they cut off all of the in arena
Starting point is 00:32:41 noise like all the music, the PA, like everything, and it was just silent for the first half. It was so weird. I was just sitting there and I could like hear myself chewing popcorn. So where am I? It was also like a one o'clock game. I was like, what, I'm taking an app right now.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Is it put it on the pole, please, Ju-ju? Is it a bad in stadium sound experience if you can hear yourself chewing popcorn. It's super boring to watch sports without music and I didn't realize it until the all-star game was down here a couple years ago and I was at the celebrity softball game watching it and they just had music playing throughout and it was a soundtrack. I'm like, man, baseball is fun. If music's playing underneath the entire time.
Starting point is 00:33:20 So I imagine every sport is like that with no music and basketball. You probably get super bored just watching and back and forth. I'll use it. That was literally the only sound. It was just sneakers back and forth the whole time and myself chewing. Well the the sons and their DJ, their anorena DJ, took the opportunity to listen to Steve Kerz words and then sample them. You know what? This building, you can't hear anything. It's like a club. It's like a South Beach club.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It's just thumping techno club music. Thumping techno club music. Thumping techno club music. Thumping techno club music. Don't be. Techno club music. Don't be. Techno club music. Put it on the pole, please, Juju Atleta Tard showed you like the sounds of sneakers
Starting point is 00:34:16 squeaking in a basketball gym. Because some people do like that stuff. I love that stuff. But I do believe that we need the T-shirt cannon. It's not enough stimuli for young people, especially not people Steve Kurzage, but young people. You need more than just the basketball and people Steve Kurzage are going to prefer to just have the basketball.
Starting point is 00:34:40 This next game I want to know T-shirt cannon, either. No, no, no, no, nothing. It was completely silent. They expect young people to have a conversation They expect people to talk to each other. Oh my phone. Please. I don't know why my guest is James Dolan got in a fight with like the PA People and didn't pay them a check so they didn't have it. I don't know they didn't work that day I don't really know why they did it. The Ravens to God's beat the Rams yesterday. They figured out a way to win then. They did figure out a way to win, but that's the rare game to God's O where they figured
Starting point is 00:35:12 out a way to win, but gave you another reason to doubt them in the playoffs anyway. Because the Rams can do that. The Rams can all of a sudden make your defense look pretty bad. They won on a punt return. They're the receivers are really good. Nicola made an insane grab with no gloves in that game and Cooper Cup, who's battled through injury this year is as unguardable as everyone he's healthy. And they're six and seven.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And they're one of the teams that got the good quarterback play yesterday. Yeah. Because there weren't many of them still got to, oh my god, Nick Mullins, you saved the Vikings because you could throw for ADRs, but I'm watching Bryce Young and he's going 13 for 39. And I'm watching who was the quarterback that had 100 yards in the less than 100 yards in the third quarter. There was another quarterback yesterday where I'm watching. I'm like, they can't get any yardage. These defenses are so good. And
Starting point is 00:36:03 the quarterback play has to be, the quarterback play has gotten so good from the very best of the quarterbacks that when it's shitty, you really notice it. Derek Carr had 119 yards for the game. Well, CJ Strauss finishes like 90 something. He got a concussion halfway through the fourth, but in the fourth quarter, he'd have 100 yards either.
Starting point is 00:36:20 What's crazy is Brock Purdy is putting up insane numbers. He's like number one in every stat that you would judge and he had like a quiet just shy of 400 yard passing game yesterday and he's probably the fifth most impressive player on that offense when you watch them. Oh, I'll tell you the other one I was thinking of Baker Mainfield. Should he write up until he wasn't? Yep. Good. right up until he wasn't. Yep. Good.

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