The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Big Nap

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Greg Cote, Marginally Edible Bacon, Chris, Billy, Jeremy, and Jessica. There are 1,000,000 things to get to from the sports weekend, but we MUST begin by making fun of Stugotz's Jets while Jessica gets to celebrate her Steelers. The crew dives through Mike Tomlin's excellence, Aaron Rodgers picking his nose, and Russell Wilson leading the Steelers offense. Then, an all-time classic WNBA Finals ended with an OT thriller marked by ugly shot making and uglier officiating. Plus, Greg makes the case for horses enjoying being driven on the highway in a trailer, Billy is a wacky-inflatable-arm-flailing-tube-man, and Stu and Greg debate whether it's actually better to win zero Super Bowls as opposed to one. No, seriously. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow in it. I come in today and legitimately excited and happy. Missed you guys to be back at work. And as I'm walking through the eating area, Greg Cody says to me, and I was delighted to see Greg Cody, it's a Monday, I wasn't expecting to see Greg Cody,

so I'm made even happier by that, and he just looks at me and he says, the bacon is undercooked, can you get on that? You should, yeah. See, I mean, you're in charge here ostensibly. So what are you doing about it? I didn't know it was undercooked until minutes ago, I will have to do something about it because he's been doing about it? I didn't know it was undercooked until minutes ago. I will have to do something about it

because he's been complaining about it since. He says there is no food that is a greater disparity between when it's done well and when it's done poorly. Right, when it's done well, I can eat a pound of it in one sitting. If it's done poorly, I don't wanna touch it. I don't wanna put it on my lip. Is it undercooked or is it just undercooked to your preference? It's undercooked to my preference slash

Undercooked like not food safe. I think it skirts that I think it's No, you're right, I do think it's marginally edible but not to this guy no way Jose as we used to say you can't say that anymore I believe we should cancel that I'm gonna I'm gonna proclaim that insensitive to my people I know no way clay make it I'm okay with that get my people out of your mouth. It needs to be two syllables, man. Does it? I think so.

Do we have a Jose in the building? Because I'm curious what a Jose thinks about that. I look at it as a compliment. No way Jose means even Jose, who's pretty sharp in all areas, would not say that. No way Jose. Jose would not eat undercooked bacon I guarantee you that let me ask you guys again on this subject because he's saying it skirts safety that that basically eating raw bacon might cause

sickness you're not saying that the breakfast here would do that. I am proud of Metal Arc Media because we serve breakfast and lunch. I don't think a lot of- It's a low bar. I don't think, well, I don't think a lot of people do that. I think if I ask most people, does your company serve breakfast and lunch, I think the answer's no.

Yeah, what about dinner though? Billy, what are you wearing? Me? A Caleb Williams t-shirt. What is that? Oh, this on top of my Caleb Williams t-shirt? I'm one of those inflatable wavy guys. OK. That you see like at a, you know, whatever.

Like a mattress store or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, mattress store. I like that. You know, I'm a person, as you know, that I take the bugger to death very seriously. And there's punishments to be paid off and I'm paying one off. I was told that has a motor.

Does it have a motor? It does and I think I waved too hard and I think it just broke and now I'm deflating. He is deflating. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stuguts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. That is Jess being a really good teammate right there.

Jess has scurried over from her position and I got to tell you, she did not want to leave that position because I've rarely seen Jess as radiant as she is today. The Pittsburgh Steelers last night had her snorting Tomlin press conference late into the night as her boyfriend tried to sleep and she wouldn't let him. She's laughing at your Jets because Devonte Adams now lost to the Jets with the Raiders,

got traded and then lost to, I'm sorry, lost to the Steelers with the Raiders, got traded, and then lost to the Steelers with the Raiders, got traded, and lost again to the Steelers last night. Who's Aaron Rodgers going to fire today? I don't know. He's out of moves. I mean, he is completely out of moves. He got Devonte Adams. They were saying last night that Devonte is the missing piece. Yeah. Aaron was supposed to be the missing piece. It is so embarrassing. I am so distraught because I had such big expectations

for this team. And the guy who was letting me down is the guy that I had huge expectations for. He is the reason this team is losing football games. The throwing interceptions is not something that I'm used to. I imagine a lot of people are enjoying Aaron Rodgers falling apart in prime time with the Jets having all of these games.

Look how happy Jessica is. She just fixed successfully Billy's inflatable arm man costume. A hero. You've begun the show as a hero, Jess. Billy and I just got very close. He looks great though. Dan, Beanie Bishop, undrafted free agent, two interceptions against Aaron Rodgers

on Sunday Night Football. We all questioned Mike Tomlin last week saying, why are you not starting Justin Fields? Justin Fields started the season four and two with the Steelers. He's been really great in the QB run game. Russell Wilson hasn't been a great quarterback in a couple years.

The Broncos thing was a disaster. Why are you starting him in Sunday Night Football against the Jets? They have a good defense, right? Wrong. Jets secondary, super banged up. Steelers pass game unlocked for the first time in like four years.

They scored 37 points, Dan, 37 points. 37 points. Najee Harris had a great game. Russell Wilson after a shaky first quarter played really well. George Pickens, great game. I am buzzing today. We all questioned Mike Tomlin.

We said, this is the boldest decision. This is a weird move, like Chris just said. This is a bold decision. Why is he doing this? And look, will it work out in the long run against better teams? I don't know. We'll see about that.

Possibly not. But they won. Let me stop you guys for just a second on the questioning of Tomlin. So if you're willing to do it to Tomlin, you're willing to do it to everybody, right? Yep. You're smarter than every coach in the NFL

on every decision, correct? If you're willing to do it to him, because the stats on the Steelers, Dugats, they haven't actually been that good over the last 51 games, okay? They've been outscored by 113 points, but they're 28, 22, and one. Like, they've been outscored

because they're not actually any good, but Tomlin always has a winning season, and Tomlin, who was too hip hop for the Miami Dolphins, who then hired Cam Cameron and went one and 15, has instead, with the Steelers, become essentially Don Jula of the Steelers become essentially Don Schula of the Steelers of this time. I know they had Chuck Knox, but he's the one coach that we all say, I thought, well if he's choosing between his

quarterbacks he's not gonna do wins like the rest of us. He's gonna actually assess the quarterback and he's gonna figure out that Russell Wilson is better than Justin Fields based on watching him a lot more than us and having a lot more invested in it than us. Chuck Noll, that's a fine. Chuck Knox was the Seattle Seahawks head coach. I think a cup of coffee with the Bills as well. Thank you.

Yeah, he got it. Very good point. I mean, the guy won four Super Bowls. I'm a little rusty. I've been off for nine days. That's going to happen. I deserve that fine. But I was shocked to hear that you guys spent the week

in my absence questioning Mike Tomlin. I was all Stu Gatts on the day I was off last week to be fair. I did question him, but I also at the same time, I watched all of the Steelers games leading up to this game. And I think a lot of people just looked at Justin Fields' stat line and looked at the win and loss record and said that he was having a good season.

Like, I'm not gonna pretend like he didn't have some really great moments and especially earlier in the season had a couple of really good games, but he didn't play well against the Raiders at all. And so I was not really that surprised about the decision, but I did question how much better do you think Russell Wilson can be? And it turns out in at least last night in the pass game,

again, against a really depleted Jets secondary, he was a lot better, and that was a key to scoring 37 points for the first time in four years. In fairness to me, questioning Mike Tomlin was the second most ridiculous thing I said last week. I said Ohtani was overrated. I mean, that show. There's just so much to talk about.

There's too much to talk about, right? I mean, the Liberty That show. There's just so much to talk about. There's too much to talk about, right? I mean, the Liberty winner championship, best basketball team in New York since 1973. The Dodgers and Yankees are in the World Series, which is just amazing. And just, I can't tell you, Stu Gantz, I don't like the Yankees, okay? Yeah.

Watching them play against the Guardians, I enjoyed nothing in baseball more this postseason than watching the Guardian catcher and pitcher realize before the rest of us that one of those Yankees had gotten ahold of the ball. And they just deflate like with all the catcher's equipment, Naylor is deflating, you got Bybee, and what happened?

Deflating like Billy I was gonna say. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. But we've got so much to talk about and you guys are starting on Steelers Jets because football rules. College football was great again this weekend. So good.

By the way, Minka Fitzpatrick absolutely cheated out of that blocked extra point. They called him for using leverage. He didn't touch anyone. That was a perfectly timed leap. And that was, oh my God, that was a real turning point for me in this game where I said, okay, I went into this game thinking if the Jets win, whatever, Steelers, we suck. I hate them so much.

And then that happened and I was like, no. This Steelers football, the special teams has been so good this year. I can't watch them lose to the Jets. The Jets stink. The Jets actually stink more than the Steelers football, the special teams has been so good this year, I just, I can't watch them lose to the Jets. The Jets stink. The Jets actually stink more than the Steelers. The Steelers now need to win. And then the Steelers did win, and then I laid in bed smirking at my phone watching press conferences run by Tomlin all night. I would love a group of people, just once, anyone to love me the way the Steelers love their special teams coach. Oh my god. That guy is adorable. I love him. He has such Yinser energy.

Danny Smith, shout out to Danny Smith. Shout out to Minka Fitzpatrick. I count that as my first one. Why are you shouting people out like this? They like Sunday Night Football. That's what you do. Because, Dan, the Steelers lost Sunday Night Football like two weeks ago to a terrible Dallas Cowboys team.

Terrible Dallas Cowboys team. And I thought that I would never feel joy again. But then last night they scored 37 points for the first time since, the last time they scored 37 points I worked at Sports Illustrated. Shout out to the Steelers. Jessica, I need you to calm down. And what you're seeing here Greg Cody happen is basically Jessica got one game of what the dolphin offense was last year She's been so quiet the Seals have been winning, but she knows she doesn't want to win in the postseason 18 to 12

And so she got a night of offense on night of all Pickens can run down the field like I always thought he could And now she's dominating Stugots, yeah on one of the worst sports days of his life. She deserves it. Yeah, shouting out. The Mets don't make the World Series, the Jets lose, their season's over. It's just, I'm used to it, Dan.

I'll be okay. Devastating Mets loss for you, you're a big follower this year. Yeah, I am, I'm a big Mets fan. I love the Metropolitans, the Jets, two and five. There's no recovering from this. I mean, the Jets are done. There's liberty though Oh the Liberty are great what's what's frustrating about the Jets is this is this is not the way that is not the way

They're great. I listen I had it. I had all three on on the TV at one time last night Listen, they're great. They're winners Sabrina was great last night. We focus on losers But let's just talk about how great Sabrina was she's great. Yeah, winners. Sabrina was great last night. We focus on losers But let's just talk about how great Sabrina was. Classic game 7. She's great. Yeah, but how great was she last night? Clutch I mean great. Yeah Garrett Wilson had a bad game Really bad game. Who did? Eric Rodgers was picking his nose on the sideline at one point Yeah, he also looked like he may have had some smelling salts. I don't know. He looks old He checks down the offense stinks. He stinks stinks, I mean I'm so tired of it.

How about, he should admit that he stinks at this point. Not in those words, but he needs to gain credibility with Jets fans by saying, I've been a disappointment. I'm disappointing myself, I need to be better, I need to lift this team, this is why they brought me here. The experiment isn't working, Aaron Rodgers needs to be better said Aaron Rodgers That's what we need to hear and never will. Well, let's let's backtrack for just a moment Jessica mentioned a couple of things. So let's go to the Aaron Rodgers nose picking first

Because it's where we must start today on a day of championship Did he eat it? It looks like he ate it. Wasn't even his worst pick of the game. Hell. We also have. Yeah! We also. Oh, he did eat that.

It looks like he ate it. He did, yeah. Put it on the poll please, Juju, at Levitard Show, did Aaron Rodgers eat the booger? Yeah. Oh my God. Also, let's go to him on the sidelines with the smelling salts or what we think,

what we allege are smelling salts because he's just sniffing. It's just, I guess it is smelling salts, right? Like that's either that or earplugs. So it just looks like a jar my wife has by the bed of things that she sleeps with. I love how it has to go into every hole of the face mask. He puts it in the front and then it's like,

all right, I gotta go in from the side here. Wait, what does your wife have by the bed? A jar of stuff? A holistic remedy of some kind. It's just earplugs, it's just a jar of earplugs. To smell? That's it, not to smell. You're snoring, right?

I'm just saying it looked at the bottom. What does my snoring have to do with anything? That's what earplugs are for, yeah. Why would you wear earplugs to bed? You don't. You don't do that. What if there's an emergency? I've always been afraid to put earplugs to bed? I mean. You don't. You don't do that. What if there's an emergency? I've always been afraid to put like earplugs

or like an eye mask on in case there's an emergency around me. And I need to act immediately. Billy's right. Thank you. It is, it is, I almost said against the law. We're not there yet, but it is unwise on so many levels to wear earplugs at night.

But like the eye mask, as if like you'd wake up and be like, oh I hear something, there's trouble, but I can't take this eye mask off so I can't help. Sorry honey, you're on your own, I have an eye mask on. The earplug thing reminds me of my grandma who, well when we're like sleeping in the same hotel room or something on vacation, she'll take out her hearing aids at night and she'll tell me like if something happens, if someone breaks in, wake me up, because I can't hear anything. I'm like, grandma, who is breaking into our hotel room?

Like, we're in Charleston. And what's she going to do if someone breaks in? Like, is grandma, she knows mixed martial arts? Like... She will, my grandma is so loud that she has literally raised people from the dead. A guy at her church had a cardiac event once and she screamed his name at him in his face so loud

that his heart started working again and then the paramedics came and he ended up surviving. Jessica, holy shit. So I think she would scream at them until they died. That's a miracle. I was about to make fun of you when you said literally raises people from the dead, but then you rose someone from the actual dead.

And he was pissed too, he wanted to die. Really? He hasn't talked to her since. I mean, once your dead, right? Just one miracle away from being a saint now. Holy crap. Once you're dead, Stugance? Do you wanna come back?

I mean, it's comfortable. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. After you're dead, do you want to come back? I really don't understand what you're doing. Are you tired from God bless football? No, I'm not tired from God bless. I'm just asking the question. Once you have died and you're taking the big nap,

do you really want to come back from it? That's all I'm asking. That's a good question. Is it though? I thought people were generally averse to death. I thought if there was ever a quote that we are, a consensus we can find in the divisive landscape of America and talking sports,

I thought people generally wanted to live. Not this guy. I think it depends. Well, he's a Jets fan and a Mets fan. That's why he feels today. I could use a big nap. Like it would be better for the big nap. Greg, how do you feel about nose plugs when you sleep?

I'm not in favor of any of that stuff. Really? No, I mean, what am I, a horse? You know, they do that to horses. They put blinders on a horse so that it's not distracted by what's over there. That's generally when they're on like a vehicle on the highway.

Right. I know, but horses, man, horses love to, when I see a horse trailer, when I see a horse trailer, I look in all the time in case it's calmly my racehorse Yeah, and in case he's strolling by it never is by the way because calmly always runs in Europe But whenever you look at a horse, we could be on vacation the horses are ecstatic to be riding no They're not yeah, that's the furthest thing from the trail. They like to look around. A horse trailer. Yeah, a good Sunday drive for a horse.

The horses love going 80 miles an hour on a highway. Barely strapped in. They like having the blinders off. Horses love peripheral vision, and the problem is that's why they kind of put the blinders on so they can't get distracted, so they can look straight and look at where they're going. Right, but ask any horse trainer, ask a horse,

do you love a ride in a horse trailer? Unequivocally the answer is yes. Jumpin' Charlie loves a ride. Really? When I take him in the car to the vet, it's the happiest 20 minutes of his life. Have you ever thought about putting blinders on Jumpin' Charlie, maybe to calm him down?

I have not, he would go crazy. You know what I did the other day? Works for horses. This thing, when this thing is is half empty Or half or half full. I bang I bang it against my knee and you get that little sound that little sound that to a dog is like hugely loud, right and the dog was going crazy early made me stop doing that because the dog was going crazy. Earline made me stop doing that because the dog was just enchanted and angered by that sound, which I took as funny and will continue to do it

when she's not around. Now imagine if you had earplugs in, you know? Right. Right. Wouldn't be able to hear the sound. Yeah, no. A disservice. No, no, I don't need my eyes covered when I sleep. I don't need earplugs, nose plugs, no kind of plugs. Just your legs crossed. I don't need any ofugs, nose plugs, no kind of plugs, butt plugs. Just your legs crossed.

I don't need any of that stuff to sleep. 12 beers, yeah. Exactly. Well, that helps. That helps. It always does. Yeah, it does. My dog also gets very excited when I put the dog in the car,

but once I get to the vet, the dog starts crying. They know. How do they know the shopping center every time? Because they've been there before. It's the smell. They recognize the smells around horror and good things. No, but from the car they start barking. But yet somehow they don't recognize fireworks.

They have an amazing sense of smell. They do. I need to stop Greg Cody for a moment, just because I don't think I've heard anything more outrageous in the history of this show than those horses like going 80 miles an hour on the highway. There is no way that those horses are enjoying that. Well, do you like going 80 miles an hour?

Well, how do you know? Billy, not helpful. Top down. Why wouldn't horses enjoy the same thing? Right. You have a convertible. It's driving fast. You have wind in your hair, air in your hair.

Some animals, some people, they like motion, Dan. They do, especially fast motion. Horses make a living running fast. Yes, but, but. Fact check. Thoroughbreds. Make a living. Yeah, they make a living.

And having sex. It's a very good living horses have. People get on me about owning a race horse. Oh, it's cruelty to animals. No, race horses are cared for unlike any other animal on the face of the earth. I think- Dogs? I think even McGill would agree with that.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Although my dog, who put these books up here? They're right in my face. What is that? Back in my day and the pride of a lion. Oh, my two books. I never even noticed. A couple of books. Cut it out. Yeah, right. But they're right in my face. Back in my day, out October 29th, which I think is a week from tomorrow. I could be wrong. I don't have a calendar in front of out October 29th, which I think is a week from tomorrow. I could be wrong. I don't have a calendar in front of me. But no, racehorses, the good racehorses, the well-kept racehorses are cared for like nobody's business. That's why I love going to Santa Anita.

Well, don't get me started there. There's a lot of bad in horse racing and the good trainers, the good owners are trying to clean up the sport. You're doing a lot, are you? Well, I'm a fractional owner. I mean, I have people. Couldn't be doing less. I have people in my purvey who were taking care of business. You've never met Comley, huh?

I have never met Comley. Would Comley know you if you visited Comley? I think there would be a little connection there. Really? I'd pat him on the snout, you know, give him a little you thought about this You know, which works for all it works for all animals. Well, yeah, sir. Not just dogs. It's calming So we'd see how that worked on common Times you drive on the highway out here and you look in in the event It might be calmly who only runs in Europe just to be clear

You you would assume though surely calmly would react calmly to being flown from Europe to here, right? Would love it because it's flight and moving faster instead of having to be you know sedated by horse Tranquilizers because they hate that stuff. Yeah, no, there are special cargo planes for horses. They don't mind the trip. Maybe some of them do prefer to be sedated. I can't speak to that. It's sad that Connelly's never going to know what it feels like driving 80 miles an hour down

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Never forget. This is the Don LeBathardt Show with the Stugats. So Jessica was saying because she was enthused, she's excited about her coach, she's excited about her Steelers. Let's play Mike Tomlin cutting through all of the bullshit when a reporter tries to inflate how well his team is playing and how great his quarterback is and Mike Tomlin's not here for any of that. What does it say that Russ kept the ball and pushed his way

in for that one yard rushing touchdown? And what did you learn about maybe his resilience and his strength in that moment? It was just a sneak. That's all he does is cut through the bullshit. I mean, he's great. I love Tomlin overrated. What? There it is. He's great overrated. He's won a single super What is Aaron Rodgers? Because overrated I mean he was yeah rough last night. He was one Super Bowl same deal. Yeah should have won more That's correct. Yeah, you know when you win one Super Bowl. It's almost worse than winning none Wow It's almost worse than winning none Wow So for Trentil for winning one is perfectly fine, yeah, but when you have that kind of talent to only win one Yeah

complete Travesty it's damning. It dams your entire career. I agree ask Aaron Rogers Yeah, Mike Tomlin a lot of other examples of that around sports. It's why number two was so important for Peyton. Yeah, you had to have it. Yes, you had to have it. Right, even though we did nothing, it was important to get it.

I just want to be clear on what the take is, okay? Because Monday's a big day for us. Everybody shows up, they want to talk football. I've yet to get to it, because you guys won't let me. Jessica badly wants to get to all things Steelers. I mean, we talked about Chuck Knox. I'm actually, wants to get to all things Steelers. I mean we talked about Chuck Knox. I'm actually I'm done talking about the Steelers. Stugots you've ruined it. Wow what happens? You made me sad. Enough with

the Tomlin is overrated talk. I'm sorry I'm sorry the Jets lost. I'm not really actually sorry but it's a ridiculous take. Russell Wilson has a chance to go back to the Hall of Fame. I mean, he played his way out, now he's played his way back in. Exactly. He's a good quarterback and never wasn't. I know a couple of years ago,

everybody was really down on him, but there's two teams in the league that come to mind that could very well use dual quarterbacks because they're both so different. One is the Steelers with Wilson and Fields, and the other is the team we just saw. He was pretty bad in Denver Greg. Don't erase it because he played a good three quarters last night. No he had one bad season. But it was pretty terrible and it got him fired. Right it didn't get along with the coach and there was a lot of

personalities up there. But the other team is the Colts. Joe Flacco, pretty good quarterback, best backup in the game. Only one Super Bowl. But Justin Fields is such a different quarterback than Flacco as as Fields is from... What is your take that it is better to win no Super Bowls than one Super Bowl? Well, I use the word almost because obviously I'm exaggerating. But my point is if you aspire to being an all-time great as Aaron Rodgers does one Super Bowl ain't gonna cut it okay when Aaron Rodgers retires in two years or whenever Dan Marino's got none I know Dan Marino has none he would rather have Dan Marino's career is what he's saying he's paid for it Dan Marino's paid for it by having none Aaron Rodgers will pay for it in legacy yet i having only one he's right breath

for respect for he will be seen as underperforming think erin rogers is one is worse than dan marino zero just to be clear comparable comparable will still the people of mississippi were paying for bread far from their point but far from put it on the pole please at lebatattard show is Aaron Rodgers is one title Less valuable than Dan Marino's zero title Look at what that second career did a second Super Bowl did for Peyton Manning It's a good point. Look at that. I mean it changed everything

You're right the entire perception about Peyton Manning. What's he write about Stu gots? He you need a second Super Bowl, Dan, to kind of... I know, but what he said originally is that having none is almost better than... Almost, right, almost. He stopped just short of saying it, yes. Right. Right.

Right. Look at him. Eli Manning also, too. That second one was huge. He may not be a Hall of Famer without that second one. Now he might be a first ballot guy. That's what they say, not if I'm voting, I'll tell you that. Oh really?

Yeah, I don't put, Eli Manning to me is not a first ballot Hall of Famer. I agree. I mean, winning two is almost worse than winning one. That's another way to put it, when you're Eli Manning. If Trent Dilfer wins the second one, he's the same Trent Dilfer. Nobody's going, oh now you gotta think about him for the Hall of Fame.

No you don't. Two doesn't matter. No, we're talking about the expectations. It could be a burden in some instances. I mean we all agree Roger should have more than one Super Bowl, correct? I mean everyone agrees with that. And frankly, Tomlin should have a second one. Yes, thank you.

For coaches is zero almost better than one also or is that just for players? And frankly, Tomlin should have a second one. Yes, thank you. For coaches, is zero almost better than one also, or is that just for players? It depends on the circumstance. Like Stu Gotz's record book, personal record book, with me it goes player by player and coach by coach. Whether zero, one, or two, the only thing that's agreeable to all

is that once you win that third super bowl you were in Rarified air. Yeah, we're breathing oxygen like nobody's business. Mm-hmm. And so if you get that third Why is it like nobody's business? Well, that's to be that's you know, what does that even mean? Well, that's someone that's one three It's a different type of oxygen then breathing oxygen like nobody's right type of oxygen then breathing oxygen like nobody's right endless flow of oxygen if you have three Super Bowl wins you don't know big maps here right we've got so much oxygen it's just a life force forever yes it's a world you'd like to live in after dying perhaps there you go the story from yesterday that I don't believe anyone's going to be talking about is the fact

that Patrick Mahomes is terrible this year and they're 6-0. Yep. Like, he's not, nevermind, he's not Patrick Mahomes. He's in the 20s in all his quarterback ratings and basically has Bo Nicks-like stats on touchdowns and interceptions and they're the only undefeated team.

He leads the league and wins. That's right. That's the only stat he leaves in. He leads the league and wins. That's right. That's the only stat he leaves in, but in all quarterbacking stats, he's in the 20s. Yeah, very disappointing. I picked San Fran, so I'm very disappointed in Mahomes. So your analysis of the game is just what you thought and what you picked and how you got it wrong.

Okay, that's your first thought. Why wouldn't it be? It's all about me. Wee! That's your first thought. Why wouldn't it be? It's all about me. Wee! That's right. Mahomes also leads in spags. That's true. That guy's the MVP, I'm telling you.

Jared Goff's the MVP. He's so good. That game was so good. Hold on, a second Baker place tonight. Oh, that's right. The last four games, Jared Goff has been the best quarterback there's ever been. There's never been somebody who's got that passer rating and completes over 80% of his passes for four straight games.

That's not a thing that's happened before Jared Goff just did it. Is it fair to say it's getting late early for the 49ers? Ayuk? Put it on the poll. At LeBattard Show, is it getting late early for the 49ers? At LeBotard show is it getting late early like for the 49ers So you had three televisions on last night's two guys because I feel like if we start quizzing you on this this Particular information is gonna fall apart. Yeah, I had three Well, I had the you know, I had the three box going so the old three box YouTube TV had the WNBA game Actually, they've been slacking on that. Yeah, it's good. Stu. That's Collier had a lot of free throws last night

She did really well from the line. Yeah, she did Great game. I mean they hoisted the trophy and that's all that matters. Listen it. It's classic game seven I don't care how they got to winning the game seven. I mean, I know Sabrina was terrible. Okay, she was all right She's the reason they lost the game game five. Yeah, but they want terrible okay she was all I've she's the reason they lost the game game five yeah but they want game five but had they lost she would have been the reason they lost the game is that fair fell like a game seven it's feeling game seven thank God the WNBA is going to a best of seven in the finals next year and that's been way a long time about time yeah this is that we found the sport that's two guys

can't fake his way through he can do it on college basketball He can do it on other sports, but I don't think that he can do it on This game fives or game sevens or last winner take all game stakes for both teams in basketball are usually pretty terrible Liberty win the championship shooting 30% because more people are watching than I've ever watched and you kind of feel it Yeah, and this is this is something that is felt everywhere by everybody in these, both teams have their season ended by a loss. You rarely get a team shooting 55% and seeing a beautiful basketball game. It's usually a whole lot of tightness, a whole lot of missed shots. But again, it becomes about the officiating at the end because can we play this sound here of Cheryl Reeve?

You don't what happened. I'm just it's terrible what she said She's not even given the Liberty their moment their first championship after losing five times in the final She's not even giving them their moment. It was she puts the ass and class by her postgame reaction Okay, well hold on a second Okay, because she just had her season ended. She thinks it's because of the officiating the officiating the disparities are Unarguable so after the game you rarely it usually they do all of the coaches do what's to gods does Or what Cody is suggesting here at the end of losing a championship, try to show some grace. You rarely have a coach just say, that shit was

stolen from us at the end. You know, it's a shame that officiating, you know, had such a hand in a series like this. Obviously, there's always going to be a team that's going to be a little more disappointed than the other. I thought today was incredibly disappointing. The challenge, we have got to change our challenge rules and the officials doing the game should have a third party because that was not a foul. And all the headlines will be Reeve cries foul. Bring it on, right? Bring it on because this s*** was stolen from us. bring it on, right? Bring it on, because this was stolen from us. Bring it on.

Greg, did you think it was a foul on Alana Smith? No, I wasn't watching. I've seen the replay since. I've seen the replay since. And whether it was a foul or not. Why couldn't you have just answered? I mean, whether you saw it or didn't see it. I appreciate the honesty, honestly.

Because I'm a truthful guy. I have seen the replay a couple of times. I don't abide any code. If an NBA coach says that, he's fined $100,000. I hope the WNBA finds her a commensurate amount, because you just don't do that. I don't care if the free throws are 45 to 13. I don't care if you dispute a particular play,

a particular call like that, you have to have more grace in defeat than she showed. I mean, fair enough if you want to criticize her for taking this sort of tone during her post-game press conference, but Cheryl Reeve, she's a ultra competitor and I think she feels sort of justifiably slighted by the officiating in this game. And it's not just this game. Like the officiating in the WNBA as a whole is baffling from night to night a lot of the time.

The officiating in game one, there were some really sketchy calls that kept the Liberty in the game late and took it to overtime. And I thought the Alana Smith foul was pretty egregious. There was also a missed travel call on Stewie late in the game that would have ended it. They reviewed the Alana Smith foul was pretty egregious. There was also a missed travel call on Stewie late in the game that would have ended it. They reviewed the foul on Smith and said that

they stuck with the call. I just don't, I really don't understand it. It was weak. And to lose a game on that, it really sucks. At the same time, like you said, Dan, the Liberty had a godawful shooting night, especially from three. They could not shoot from three at all in the Lynxborne night.

We're not able to capitalize on that throughout the game and build a lead. They also didn't shoot very well. So I think there's a lot of frustration to be had there with just not being able to take advantage of the team you're playing against. Their stars are not shooting well, and the Liberty had to go to their bench and really dig deep to find some players who were able to come up big in huge moments like Nair Sabili was but it was just like the officiating was bad like it was bad and it sucks that that's the story but I hopefully that gets the WNBA to make some changes and to get it right next

time because that shouldn't be the story after a great championship series, but we all watched the game and to quote Aisha Curry, we saw it. We all watched the game and it was bad. It's a bummer that this is the conversation ever after a championship, but to have a deciding game go into overtime, Stu Gantz, do you know how few of those we've gotten over time? Where you're going into overtime but unfortunately, and this is what I want to ask Greg Cody, the champion shot 30% which means if you held the champion to 30% and the reason you think you lost that game is because of a free throw disparity that large when that's the difference in your game nobody's making shots and they're getting the free

throws what coach wouldn't lose their mind about that after a game and if you cared the way she cares about this as opposed to just tuning in for a couple of hours one night of care because everybody else is watching you'd be made insane by losing this publicly because the officiating can't get it right when you've gotten your job right you've gotten your players to do their job right and all you're asking is for the league to give you confidence at officiating who wouldn't be as angry as she is there i'd be angry because my team was three of 19 from three i'd be angry because my team scored two points in overtime i know but still got if you were like let's make let's make it both of you let's really let's say my team was three of 19 from three. I'd be angry because my team scored two points in overtime.

I know, but, Stugats, if you were, like, let's make it both of you. Let's really, let's say you kept getting fouled and you lose. Both of you. You're not complaining after the game. You're being classy in defeat saying it's not about the officiating at all. The two of you are going to be accountable in that spot. I think you need to couch it under, first let me congratulate the new york liberty and then you can go into your red you have to do that on the front and it's run and work day and you have to write are you sure she didn't i don't know not that i heard yeah

and and by the way for perspective the minnesota links of one four wb championships this decade or or i think one of them may go back to or i know he says she lost that she lost one two thousand they lost one in two thousand sixteen this way to write where she was complaining after the game about the officiate right yes so

i think mo i think every coach in her spot would be disappointed by the way the game ended i think ninety percent of coaches would be classier then to say I'd be super frustrated doing the like you're not being classy conversation after this like I just is like so She's pissed. She's she wanted to win the game. She wanted to win her another championship Yeah, you said they've won four championships before but I don't know what that has to do with this like this was a game five And it came down to some really really sketchy calls.

Okay but but when she says what she says and when you refer to sketchy calls are you saying that the officials cheated to make New York win? What are you saying exactly? Because the officiating can miss calls in both directions but to suggest that that was stolen from me or whatever phrase she was very clear and what it is she was saying and insinuating that was insinuating they took it from us no she was talking about incompetence she was asking for competence from from the officials like and not even competence consistency okay if you're gonna get it wrong get it wrong both ways and who says they didn't?

Look at the free throw disparity. Did you not watch? That doesn't always indicate anything, the free throw disparity. How about the team that had more free throws was fouled more often? Is that a possibility? What were you saying after Saints Rams

when there was just like a clearly terrible call that affected the game? I mean, I had the Rams winning, so it didn't bother Rams winning So it didn't okay what happened I'm struggling here wait so Greg if Greg had picked the links last night I think we're talking about this in a different way is what I'm hearing. Yeah, he just be talking about his pick That's I mean we you know we all have our perspective You know I didn't have any money or particular interest in the game I was rooting for the Liberty only because they've been in the finals five times before and never won. I was happy for them.

I'm with you, Grant. And the season is longer than one game. The Liberty were the best team this whole season and they deserved a championship based off of their full season of play. And I don't want to take anything away from those players because despite the terrible shooting last night. Take something away from them.

They played really great this season. However, the Lynx were the best challenge to the Liberty all season long. And the Lynx were really good at playing against the Liberty specifically in this season and especially in this playoff series. So I just think that she's totally entitled to her feelings about how this game ended because if it happened to any of us that way, we would also be pissed off and not very happy about it. I think the common sense, the common courtesy in her position is to start off by congratulating the opponent and then say having said that I didn't like some of

the officiating but but to say it the way she does they stole it from us that's too much. Now if the Liberty don't go on to say it the way she does, they stole it from us, that's too much. Now, if the Liberty don't go on to repeat or win another one in the next, I don't know, three to five years, was it worth winning this one? You owe money from your phone dinging in the middle of that. You owe. He has no idea.

Why are you reaching down? And you were getting texts about calmly. All right, excellent. You okay, Greg? I was looking for my cop button. Yeah. Somebody stole it. Someone moved it, yeah. Yeah.

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