The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Burning Building (feat. Paul)

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

"The flames are reaching higher." The Dolphins' building is burning around them. It's aflame. Burning. It's blazing. And burning. The Dolphins are almost in ashes. It's on fire. Ignited. The build...ing is burning. (Okay, so I know we just said that a lot, but it's not nearly as many times as you'll hear Dan repeat it in this hour.) Today's cast: Dan, Zaslow, Chris, Jeremy, Mike, Roy, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 You know, supposedly, Mike is paying a punishment right now. All right, I'm going to cut you off. He just looks cool. No, I'm going to cut you off because I feel the animosity because I'm able to pull off this Dentech punishment. It's supposed to be a cowboy? Okay, like you were crawling through the desert having to call D.L.B. But that's also not a cowboy hat.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Like, that's a hat someone from the luminaires would wear. Well, that actually cuts me to my core and hurts more than the actual punishment. I think you look cool. Those nicknames were hard to pull off. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, what are we doing? Roy brought Greg like two waters. And we call that a punishment.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's two waters, two coffees, an ice pack, and ottoman. Okay. All right. Yeah, no. I like the real suffrage. I will say the way you're holding the headphones, that does seem like it stinks. This is a true punishment.
Starting point is 00:02:46 This is, you know how the last punishment was like, wow, that's a really cool, like, Pfizer racing shirt. But you guys didn't have to shop for jeans at a thrift shop. That's its own unique hell. And here, I haven't to wear a cowboy hat, they haven't made functional headphones for a cowboy hat. This is not a cowboy hat. This is a, well, I can't put my headphones over it. Oh, wait, not, we're good. Oh, yeah, this is easy.
Starting point is 00:03:09 You know whose fault this is, right? The Dallas Cowboys. UD. Ud. You Donis Haslam. than when Mike said, oh, no, I've got a cowboy outfit that I can wear. Sweet. What is your punishment?
Starting point is 00:03:32 What is it? I had to wear the mascot costume of the team that lost for me at the Dentech bucket, and I had the Cowboys. That's you as a cowboy? Yeah, I'm a cowboy. And it's a cowboy. It's not just a cowboy, but a— What do you dress as an asshole? A cowboy that Jeremy thinks is cool, and Chris is saying should be your new look, that all you've done is dress how you would normally dress and put on a hat.
Starting point is 00:03:55 and a hat that's not quite a cowboy's hat. It's not quite a cowboy hat. It seems like you guys are just jealous because I'm handsome. Well, yeah. Well, noted. Tell me about shopping. Tell me about shopping for the thrift shop for jeans. Tell me about that.
Starting point is 00:04:09 He went to a store that was the best thrift store in Miami and shop for jeans that were probably like 160 bucks. I don't even know if you can call it a thrift store. It's more of just a cool vintage shop. It's vintage. Those are not synonyms. That's you stealing from metal art. Again, it's Houdonis's fault. He's going to be talking about.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Two lessons. Today's show, because I look really cool. And on the Magic City Fronton, when our cyclones beat his renegades once again. Down year for the gates. I'm going to need you guys' help on all of this because Eudonis is asking too much money to be an enforcer. You are a bad negotiator. This is a terrible negotiator. You told the audience he was joining us.
Starting point is 00:04:47 He signed a job. And now you're saying he's asking for too much money. Just bad negotiator. This is like the Charlie Sheen dock all over again. This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stucats podcast. Zaslow, I've got a burning building here with the Miami Dolphins, and I've got Tua out in front, and press conference have to be given when you're out in front of a burning building. And this is as high as the flames can climb on a franchise, and what it made me do is do something,
Starting point is 00:05:25 in the realm of journalistic, and I'm going to just say that I haven't done this in a few years, but I made some calls. Oh, the emeritus. Now, yeah, is this, like, did you feel pressure yesterday? Well, here's the thing. Mike Ryan is old enough to know. I want to know what I made some calls means when Mike Ryan has happens to know,
Starting point is 00:05:50 and what is the highest form of journalistic intelligence we have around here when we're just saying, Hey, wink, wing, trust us on this. We've got journalistic sources here. When Harold columnist Emeritus says he's made some calls, that's higher on the totem pole,
Starting point is 00:06:05 even though historically the more important things go at the bottom of the totem pole, that is, but people are dumb. That is higher on the totem pole than I happen to know. That doesn't make sense. No one would ever say, I'm really low on the totem pole
Starting point is 00:06:18 to say how important they are. I got to push back on that. You happen to know after the phone call, Just saying you made the phone call, you might not have found out anything. Well, we can compare notes because you made a couple phone calls, and when it comes to the University of Florida, I happen to know. Whoa. Okay, so we've got competing.
Starting point is 00:06:36 He happens to know? Great Scott, he happens to know. He happens to know. Gather everyone. Get the children. He happens to know. So wise. I mean, Mike's got some credentials here, Zaz,
Starting point is 00:06:51 in that when Mike's reporting things, whether it's messy to Miami, beating everyone around the globe as an insider or from the insides of the business of football where you're seeing, hey, James Franklin, $50 million? No, this is where we play now. Everyone's playing Phil Knight, and it takes $20 million to get in the game. And so I want to talk about what's happening in two places here. One with Tua as a building burns, and everyone tries to get out. And how do you imagine just even if I didn't make these calls? How do you imagine it would be to be Tua when everything around your franchise is everyone's about to be swept out to see here?
Starting point is 00:07:32 And Tua, you're going to end up in the backup lane as bad contract guy. And it's everyone for themselves. And the moment demands real leadership. But how do you lead when you're giving a press conference in front of a burning building? And what you guys thought was gibberish yesterday in the press conference after the game where he's saying, no, no, no, no, no. it's on me, it's on me, it's on me. He's talking about multitasking. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:57 No, this was a huge overcorrection from somebody who's giving press conferences in front of a burning building, and the mistake that he made is, hey, I won the Chargers game. Not my fault. I won the Chargers game. Everyone else's fault, they don't show up to meetings. That's why we didn't make two tackles. That's why Jalen Phillips didn't make that tackle. Now.
Starting point is 00:08:16 All right, you get five burning buildings in the first segment. This is Pooka's open hands. Okay, I'll stop here. I'm just telling you that what's happened to, that has real human cost on leadership, whether you're risking your brain being scrambled or talking to your family about, should I play or should I quit for the $250 million? Should I risk this? And yesterday we're talking about, well, is it gibberish because his brain is concussed, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:40 What happened in that press conference is that Tua wildly overcorrected because he realized the error and the mistaken, throwing out into the public in front of everybody this is everyone else's fault and not mine in a room full of employees who come to the same meetings he does every day and their bodies hurt just as much as he does and they're in the burning building too that's the last one i doubt that to a loss to a lost his guys and they don't have the contract and uh they don't what's the what i'm looking for the contract and the uh the signing bonus the the guarantees yes yes the guarantee yes the guarantee essentially that. Certainties? Is that where you got
Starting point is 00:09:24 stuck? I said certainties. The point is the money's about to dry up and everyone's going to be swept out to see and Tua's sitting there on the life draft saying it's not my fault and he lost everybody. That's not leadership. No, but now he's saying it's totally his fault.
Starting point is 00:09:41 It's a mess. It's a mess. And I will say we've done this show several times over the decades where it's like I'm not sure the flames can reach much higher on this franchise. They move buildings. But But if you went to the one in Davy, you'd see the torched embers of bully gate. You know, like, it happens a lot to bad franchises.
Starting point is 00:10:00 For the point in the fun we made about Tyreek Hill being the leader of the team, all of a sudden now you move Tyreek Hill out of that locker room. And everybody's looking around and saying, all right, so who is the leader of the team? Tua? Is it you? And he's like, uh, I think so. No, but guys, let's really deconstruct. This is amazing to watch, like the architecture of this. before the season started, before the season started, you've got two players on the Dolphins and only two who are stars, national stars. It's Tua and Tariq Hill. This is what Tariq Hill. This is what
Starting point is 00:10:30 Tyreek Hill came down here for. He quit on last season at the very end. The pressure of all that was too much for him. He's whimpering on his way out the door. And so this season starts with Tua saying, well, my guy's going to have to rebuild some trust. And we said, look at Tua, being a leader. all right it's a little easier to do when you got the guaranteed money and it's also very hard for you to do when you're risking your brain in a way that others aren't because you care as well but now the noise starts the zasloos are firing your coach every week everything is pulsating in the city and Greg Cody is a month late to the opinion these guys all suck no one can lead them and the truth is of course no one can lead them who the hell could at this point it's tethered to nothing they're all being swept out to see getting demotions on what were their careers, everybody, everybody at the top of the franchise. Like, there is no one to salvage them. There's no, there's no future Hope Pick, who would be Jalen Waddle. But I want to talk to you guys about the specifics of he walks back into the room without knowing that he's broken it.
Starting point is 00:11:33 He walks back in after that Chargers game. Wasn't me. Wasn't me. I saved us at the end. Like, Zaz, like that's how that shit climbs. And it just engulfed him. Tua will have a hard time bringing the career back from the ashes of this punctuation. Is that what he's talking about where in the nonsense post-game press conference
Starting point is 00:11:57 where he's talking about I'm trying to bring guys with me and like that. When you put it that way, it sounds like a guy who is trying to get people to come with him, but he's having a hard time. The Miami Dolphins are a giant business in the middle of our city and it makes money for a lot of people. These guys are the stars locally. deserved it. The franchise hasn't earned it the last 25 years. They're a laughing stock. Generation after generation, the only
Starting point is 00:12:22 thing that's the same always is the owner, except he desecrated everything that Joe Robbie and Hizenga did before him. Like, that's his great shame at the end of his life. Makes a lot of money, but is a loser. Makes a good stadium. Brings F1 down here, but is a professional sports loser.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Could never hire the rightful. Can make money, but not wins. A hell of a, hell of a stadium. I mean, that franchise value. It's a good game day experience. Oh, it's a great stadium. No venue in the world like it. Playing the conga now on third downs. Yeah, well. For UM games. That's a problem.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah. How could two of those be so bad at the leadership aspect of this? Dan, it's not in his second year. It can't be led. He's in his sixth year. What I'm telling you is it can't be led. Look, Mike is old enough to know. This is why I was laughing about the making of calls.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It used to, Adam... Old enough to know? He's old. Oh, my God. He's old. I see his grades. Oh, my God, he's old. How do you introduce yourself on the call? Do you say is this calmness, this calmness of Marius? I blow the cobwebs off a landline. Is that why he's wearing that hat?
Starting point is 00:13:25 You better be going somewhere after 40, pal. I need you to explain this one to me real quick. He's old enough to know. Adam Gase came over to the Clevelander at one time when coaches to come kiss the media ring of how information gets brokered to protect your jobs. It's an Adam Gase reference. We're good. The dolphins don't have a thing other than Hill and Tua and McDaniel.
Starting point is 00:13:53 That's their face to the league. Right, but look, I don't know if it's a leadership problem that's plagued this franchise since the turn of the century, but they had Bill Parcells and Nick Saban at the helm. Those guys reputed to be really good leaders. Sometimes it's the dudes on the field. Okay, but it could also be as simple as Sabin would still be the coach here over all of these years, and we wouldn't have had any of these bozos because he selected Drew Brees and made Drew Brees what Sean made, made Drew Brees, and never left Miami for Alabama because he loved it so much here.
Starting point is 00:14:24 That was a doctor's decision that kept Savin from loving Miami because instead of six and eight or six and ten, he was going to be able to be 10 and six every year. Nick Saven's greatness is so understood and universally accepted that people think that he could do with Drew Brees, which Sean Payton did. and Sean Payton has proven that he's really good at working with quarterbacks. Who's to say, like when we say that, maybe Dante Colpepper has a Hall of Fame career if he ends up being the guy. I was all in.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I loved him. I was wrong. Do we have this right when LaShawn McCoy says on his podcast of Tua, he stinks? When they paid him? No, he's not wrong. Oh, there's more. When they paid him, I couldn't believe it. Why are they paying him?
Starting point is 00:15:10 What are they paying him for? The gigs up, bro. 2 has 22 interceptions in his first 30 games under McDaniel, but has thrown 18 picks and 19 games since. Yeah, see, I think that revisionist history is garbage. Right. The revisionist history that should be applied was, like, the only concern around this contract was he's a hit away.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Right, right. When the contract was given, everyone else in his draft class had already signed those deals. This was the going rate. They didn't give him the, he didn't become the highest paid quarterback. It was like Dak Prescott. This is the going rate to sign a quarterback who's had some type of success in the league to another contract.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And the second part of it is we're talking as if the guy we're seeing today from, you know, Tua, is the same as the one who got that contract? It's not. That was a good player. This is a bad player. So like, it's revisionist history. He should have never gotten that contract. You can't predict that he's going to be washed in two years from now, which is what's happened to me.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah, but Zaz, the thing is you look at the open market and you go, all right, you want to test for agency, go ahead. Who's going to give you that kind of offer? Nobody was going to give too that kind of offer. Oh, no, I think you're wrong. I think you're wrong. Really? You think so? With what we saw on national TV, somebody said like, yeah, I'm going to give him $200 million?
Starting point is 00:16:30 These teams are so desperate for a quarterback. It's the only way to win in the league. One of the 32 teams out there is desperate enough to sign a guy who just came off of being the most passing yards in the. the NFL. Absolutely. Do you guys not sort of realize that the trulogy in this is it is without precedent in the market where everyone
Starting point is 00:16:51 in the same half season gets swept out to see. Like what will be left here we just saw to his punctuation. He verbalized it and he goes down in the flames now as well. In half a season
Starting point is 00:17:07 we will turn to the dolphins to be like, who leads them? Who do you care about on this team? Who goes into the next incarnation? Waddle and A. Chan? Like, what have they left here? It's all going to be embers. They went all in on, we're going to get Tyreek Hill, we're going to get Chubb, we're
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Starting point is 00:20:41 This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stoogadz. I'll be honest. I'm surprised that they're not taking calls on Jailen Waddle. They should. Like, that contract looks like it sucks now, all right? And he's not a bad wide receiver. He's fine, but that contract sucks. He's a great number three. Big Dog was saying today he wouldn't even take a one for him.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Joe Rose, that he would turn down a first-round pick. He wouldn't trade him for him. He's like, it would have to be like a top five pick for me to say yesterday. What? You know, I think you heard that wrong. I don't even believe you. No, I can't. I'm with you, Zaz.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I think you heard that wrong. Yes. That doesn't make sense. It might be time if that's Joe's take. Carrying water. I think you're, why are you making things up this morning, Chris? No, I was listening. Listen to me.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Big dog wants a protected fish. Chris Cody loves Joe Rose, will always love Joe Rose. He comes in, barrels in every day saying this is what the big dog said. I don't know why the big dog has him on a leash, but Chris Cody didn't just have his own opinion there. As a lifelong dolphin fan, no, no, no, no, no. He's going to recycle the big dogs. Let's just make sure we're clear on what Chris is saying that Joe Rose said. He would only trade.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Jalen Waddle for a top-by His first take was there's three guys on this team you keep Paul A. Chan and Waddle Paul's the second round left tag No no no
Starting point is 00:22:19 That's a good pick The Dolphins last year Second round pick Left tackle Patrick Paul He seems like he's going to be legit I had no idea what his first or last name was Patrick Paul he's supposedly a good left tackle So he's like those are the three guys
Starting point is 00:22:29 And then his producers The first one he went with was Paul Patrick Paul Dolphin fans know Paul Tony Chris, you are doing the correct thing. You guys are showing your ass here if you guys don't know who Patrick Ball is. They say him third. Chris, it's not what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:22:44 No, he's like their number one. I would say he's the most capable. That's on his blind side, though, to a lefty. Yeah, it's true. Not as valuable. Chris, I understand your defensive posture. You are correct. Paul. Paul, A. H.N. Waddle. You go H.N. Waddle, a law firm. Okay, listen. Chris, I'm just going to explain something to you real quick.
Starting point is 00:23:06 on what's happening behind you right now, okay? I understand that you are correct that Paul is indeed a redeemable, a redeemable dolphin, one of three they have, on a roster that has 50 more of those. And then Hollywood pushes back. What about you got to give up a bottle?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Let me just finish for a second, Chris. Wow, I kind of want to hear what Hollywood thinks. I'm pretty sure that Tony and Mike are only laughing at you because they think that you've just identified some guy named Paul that they've got playing left tackle who they just assume
Starting point is 00:23:38 is just they've got to keep waddle they've got to keep nobody else and just that guy Paul Paul he's like No we're the butt of the joke I had no idea who you were talking about Paul the guy who makes some smoothies Some dude named Paul First name or last name
Starting point is 00:23:51 Patrick Paul Left tackle second round pick last season You're correct But the big dog is in your dreams right now When he says The Big Dog tells you on the way in And of course this is lunacy
Starting point is 00:24:03 What he's saying Big Dog You've seen wide receivers. Come on, Big Dog. Waddle is not a number one. He's a nice number two, and it is now a terrible contract. Added to the pile of 895 million of those that Chris Greer gives on the way out the door, as be careful how you fire the black man. Brian Flores has a lawsuit in town, and I'm sorry I stepped on the joke yesterday
Starting point is 00:24:26 that said that the Dolphins would be firing consecutive black coaches. Good job, Dan. I think a lot of the audience probably doesn't still know that Mike. McDaniel is black? Get out of here with that. I don't think you're qualified. Hold on a minute. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It's been three years. We're not the one to say, right? Get out of here. I'll say it right now. Get out of you. Be careful. Mike McDaniel. Be careful, Mike McDaniel. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:24:52 I don't think you're qualified to be, I don't think you're the qualified. This is not a place I put you as judge, but you have said you're a race expert. Race war experts. I mean, going to start one. You know what? I don't think I am. Mike McDaniel.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Is that crackling I hear? It's cozy, right? More of a blaze or an inferno around the dolphins? Like if we were to try to categorize this fire, blaze, inferno, or just a warm fire in the living room. No, at Tyreek's house behind Mike right there. The picture of Tyreek's house when it did catch fire. Do you think Tyreek watches the Dolphin Games?
Starting point is 00:25:32 That's a great question. Put it on the poll at Levitard show. Do you think Tyreek watches the dolphin? Gotta go, no. Well, but I wonder if you've broken your leg in the name of this cause, and like I'm saying to you, he couldn't be the leader, he couldn't be the captain. Remember these conversations we were having before the season? Tyreek Hill cannot be the leader of this team.
Starting point is 00:25:52 How was everybody right about these dolphins that when they said, whatever, soft, not made for this, not led by anybody, really? Tyreek Hill comes, gets his stardom. Everyone knows, oh, the whole thing works, only if he's faster than everyone else. That's where it works best, all of it. Tua gets his money, and a room full of people who haven't.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Tua says their fault, not mine. And that's a giant business in Miami. And to see it go up in flames like this, I can say, I think, historically, 50 years in, there's never been anything like it. There's never, where your GM is the GM that has the longest stretch of never winning a playoff game and you're just recycling through coaches and all of them stumble at the finish line all of them since Sabin and your organization
Starting point is 00:26:40 is bad for a quarter century when all the rules legislate that everything should be equal your team is the worst if only the jets didn't exist I feel like Cody said it like in passing yesterday the lawsuit Chris Greer thing but I'm having trouble digesting that I think he's Right. I think it's a really big thing. And that's why Chris Greer may not be going anywhere. That needs some reporting. I don't think we can do. I don't know. I don't think, wait a minute. Hold on a second. I don't think we can do that that way. Like, you can't just throw like. Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. Is it reckless? Is it reckless? Is it reckless? to think that if Chris Greer
Starting point is 00:27:33 is no longer employed by the Dolphins, that he may side with the lawsuit as opposed to his former employer who just fired it? Is that reckless? That's reckless? Yes. Yeah, kind of. But I love it. It's scandalous and wrong, but
Starting point is 00:27:48 I do love it. Wait a minute. Just on human terms. Think of it this way. On just human term. You're Stephen Ross. You can buy anything you want in the world. You have not been able to buy. I am a competent Miami Dolphins owner. And at the end, the other black guy I gave a chance is going to be in the lawsuit that tells everybody all my secrets about all the things I was doing. And that's going to be
Starting point is 00:28:12 the punctuation of not only my ownership, but of my life because I'm in my 80s and I desperately did. Like, I'm imagining that Stephen Ross, like, think about this and the things rich people can buy. I'm imagining that Stephen Ross, what hurts him the most here is that people don't think he cares, that he's just running the franchise that he doesn't care. I think he cares a lot. And if it's the opposite of that, and that's still an opinion you can't change for as long as
Starting point is 00:28:40 you live with all the money in the world, when you've made a big, giant economy in Miami with land over there around that stadium, land, I'll remind you that Joe Robbie's family went banked, trying to protect because these businesses are giant economies.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And I've never seen this one swallowed this way. I don't think it's overreaction to say that half a season end, not even the one in 15 season, because they got Cam Cameron out in a year, that there's never been this, where you just see like, wait, you're, you blink and you're like, okay, so one of the most precious jewels
Starting point is 00:29:12 in the history of South Florida, they're going to have to start all over from nothing again? From nothing. No quarterback, A. Chan, if you don't break his leg on the way out, and Waller, like, what? But that's the league.
Starting point is 00:29:28 That's not the league. It is. If you're not the Steelers or Packers. For some teams, yeah. That's the league. It really is. Look at your division. It was the bills for a very long time. How much do you imagine it burns Stephen Ross that at the end he can't buy?
Starting point is 00:29:46 We'll laugh at you till the grave. You will not dig this out. It will not. Your punctuation here will be you ran it all into the ground. For 25 years, you ran the entire. Do you know how arrogant the dog? Dolphins have been about business in this town for 40 years? What is the discourse amongst Dolphin fans around Stephen Ross?
Starting point is 00:30:08 Do they think he's a buffoon? I don't hear as negative as Dan talks. No, no, I do. I think Dolphin fans, because I push back against him, because I think Stephen Ross does care a lot. Yeah. And I happen to think. Now, I happen to think.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Yeah, I happen to think. I don't have imaging for that. All right. I happen to know Stephen Ross cares deeply. Oh, my God, he knows. Oh, you happen to think first. since I happen to know. I know he cares.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Come, everyone. Come and listen. Happens to know. He happens to know. Well informed. I happen to think. Okay. It's good for you though.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I happen to think that Stephen Ross has been a good owner because he puts money into the team. It's a great game day experience. He tries. Money's, he does. He's not a deadbeat owner. But when you're not willing to make the change that is necessary for the football team to improve, that's where we. are right now, I believe it's like, dude, come on. But I hear plenty of Dolphin fans who think that
Starting point is 00:31:05 he doesn't care at all and only cares about making money. I hear a lot of that. Yeah, but that's spending money is easy for him, right? Oh, you're going to put an F1 track. All right, what's over $100 million, all right, do this, do that, tennis, that, whatever. You know what's hard? It's that easy, Tony. True, but when you're a billionaire, you can make things happen very quickly. You know what's hard? Firing your GM, firing your coach, giving a quarterback $200 million. It probably doesn't deserve it. That's the tough stuff that he just doesn't do. Now, extra. wrinkle, all right, in the whole lawsuit, Chris Greer situation, that if he doesn't fire him, you know, let's keep from talking. If he does fire him, are we sure that Chris Greer would then
Starting point is 00:31:42 be Team Flores because they hated each other in the end? Everybody hated Brian Flores out here. Stop it. He can fire the GM and head coach. He will at the end of the season. You think there is no shot these guys are coming back. I'm concerned. No shot. No shot. The only thing that he's be doing and firing McDaniels and Greer is making people online happy that it happened sooner than it will happen. Chris Greer was scouting Lenora Sellers at John Mateer this weekend. That's hilarious. He has to be there. Looking at other GMs like, can you believe I'm here? He would probably be doing that if he were out of work for the networking aspect because he wants to stay in the league. I honestly bet he was networking. More than watching the court. You have to be. The writing's
Starting point is 00:32:27 been on the wall. This is not. Like, why fire the coach? That's a move that you, that either placates a fan base, and it's been reported that he would give serious consideration to firing McDaniels if disinterest reached a certain level. So we'll see what the stadium looks like. I guess he would just be giving people a pound of flesh, but I would venture to say,
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Starting point is 00:35:20 Save on insurance by switching to Bel Air Direct and use the money to fix your car. Bell Air Direct. Insurance, simplified. Conditions apply. Don Lebertard. In terms of heat fans, you're the most ira of us right now. What's the pivot thing? Oh, irrational. Stugats. I'm not hear your voice there? If I were making a cartoon thing that was meant to symbolize irrational, that's the voice I would give. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. I implore you to the degree that I can to, I know these people are cartoon characters, okay? the Stephen Ross that would have any degree of pride of not wanting to be an international embarrassment
Starting point is 00:36:07 as a sports owner because, yeah, you can win the game of money the way Jerry Jones has won it and be respected with power or you can buy your way into the club the way he did and just have like really 25 years of epic failure. It's not just the Patriots running your division, it's the bills then taking it from you
Starting point is 00:36:25 when they hadn't made the playoffs for 17 years and all the rules are stacked so that you should, I give anyone 25 years, they're going to win a playoff game. Anybody, I can give a team of circus clowns. 25 years will stumble into a playoff victory, one season with an assortment of leaderships. This has been an epic run of failure that makes the dolphins in these 25 years, undisputably.
Starting point is 00:36:51 This is not an overreaction. His presiding over this makes it a quarter century of failure You're in a team where the heat took the town from him. NBA opens today. Heat took the town from him, and the Panthers have Brad Marchant as their champion leader face on national television because they've lost the town to teams that are organizations that have been run better as Stephen Ross, with all the money in the world, has presided over,
Starting point is 00:37:17 how do I get in the game with Kraft and Jerry Jones? And this is why I implore people to say, like, to understand, God, I wish these people didn't have a salary cap. Because at the end of his life, Stephen Ross would have made it rain billions trying to not have his life end with, oh, everyone's laughing at me at the end, to the grave. To the grave, like Hezenga at the end, who owned this team, was being taken care of in hospice because he had lost his mind, and at the end, the legacy and empire meant nothing. Stephen Ross knows he's at the tail end of his life and career with this thing. He would pay any amount of money, any amount of money to not have it be this at the end of. his life. You're killing an 85-year-old billionaire. That's not how this works, all right? Glenn
Starting point is 00:38:00 Taylor, they thought he was going to die 20 years ago. These guys live forever. Drinking blood. Buy a new heart or something. The other thing that we have fresh reporting on... What's a heart going for on the black market today? You don't want to know. I'll look it up. Put it on the poll at Levitard show. Put it over under. Put an over under on this poll. You want me to give you the real number or No, you don't want it the real number. The real number is 500K. Got cheap? Cheaper than you thought.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Because the body can reject it. Exactly right. Do you get money back if it does? Not on the black market. Bitcoin, baby. You're telling me I can buy a human heart for 500K? 500,000 as is. Now, obviously, if you want it more souped up, right?
Starting point is 00:38:47 You want, hey, I want this kind of heart, that kind of heart. Obviously, it's going to cost a little bit more. AI is telling me the average cost of a heart transplant. in the U.S. is approximately 1.9 million. Yeah, but that's over the... That's her medical... That's service. Tony's got a guy. That's labor. That's labor right now. It's the heart. Well, if the Democrats came to Congress.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Thank you. I thought we'd get to that finally. They're shut down. They own it. I like this guy. Hell of a ballroom. Good hat. Should be red. 500K, Dano. That's good.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I cannot believe the confidence with which you knew how much a human heart goes for on the black market in Hyaliyah. Well, Tony is about those particular. Look, Tony, I've told you guys before that my father, who's not unlike his father, once found like a spare tire for me for $10 in a door that opened in Hyaliyah where they fixed my car for $10. You know how many human hearts Stephen Ross could buy? 34,000 because he has $17 billion. I think he's okay at the end of his life. That honestly seems low. $500,000 times $3,000.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Big Michigan booster. They won an addie. He's fine. He's had some success. Oh, so you guys don't think that it matters to him that he's an international laughing stock desecrating one of the great and proud franchises in the history of a league that just got this popular.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Dolphins, I won't rhyme people again. winning his franchise, 70s, 80s, 90s, and all of sports. I don't think he's an international laughing sock. I don't think it's shortage. They're like, the Stephen Ross Bruv. I don't think so. They're barely, like I had to ask Zaz. What's a temperature check on Stephen Ross?
Starting point is 00:40:35 I think most people would say, yeah, the dolphins are struggling, but Stephen Ross has done a pretty good job. I remember what the conversation was like around Wayne Heisinga and how mad and sell the team. And yeah, you'll have segments of the fan base that'll do that whenever there are struggles. But I don't think the struggles are because Stephen Ross is disinterested. I think he's super involved and is also trusting the people that he's hired. He just hasn't made the right hires. That's the business.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Only like four franchises consistently over our lifetimes have been in the conversation routinely outside of a couple seasons here or there. Well, and people down here treat it differently, right? Like, if you look at the way we responded to Jeffrey Loria, it was because they were selling high on players. That's not really ever what happens with the Dolphins. Like, they let things run their course, whether it's coaches or players. And most fans look at it as like, oh, man, I'm sad this didn't work out. The bigger criticism would be holding on to guys for too long, whether that was Ryan Tannhill or now Chris Greer at GM. Well, let's look at his scandals, right?
Starting point is 00:41:43 Bulligate happened on his watch. That was bad that he put together a campaign. Council that featured Curtis Martin, and they had like a call. But his other... They've never got together. Pablo needs to find out about this. We've been trying to find out for years. We don't believe there was ever a meeting of that task force.
Starting point is 00:42:00 He's got this Brian Flores thing, which is adjacent to the pursuit of the greatest quarterback ever. Yeah, the offensive line coach who was snorting them grains with the stripper. Oh, yeah. That was a fun night to work at WSPN. Grain's? Yeah. So you're saying that's when it gets stuck. That's what the kids call him, man.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Because that big grain. Cocaine is grains. That's what he, it was his words, not mine? Yeah. What? What do you mean what? That was a crazy video. Are you looking to me?
Starting point is 00:42:29 I think of Bruce Sherman more negatively than I do the Dolphins Center. Relax. I do. I just, it's just like. Sideline reporter. You set this one out. They haven't spent money. I know that they don't draw attendance.
Starting point is 00:42:40 They're better. They've hired a president of baseball operations that actually knows what he's doing. Okay, a couple years ago, the Dolphins had a cup of coffee. being good, too. Like, don't get excited over, like, one good half a season. Like, I'm just saying... No, the Marlins are better run. That's crazy. I disagree. I would push back on that. It's an amazing narrative shift because Bruce Sherman wasn't spending any money and he brought in Derek Jeter and was a disaster. I'm just saying over the last... I'm going to say over the last 12 months. I'm going to say... Oh, I mean, a small, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Oh, yeah, it's a tiny sample. Okay, but what you were saying two years ago was Stephen Ross, you got it, man. Congratulations. We can just look since Bruce Sherman has been here. Since Bruce Sherman has been here, Jeremy? What, 10? They've got a couple of playoff appearances. That's exactly right. I would think the Dolph, like with... It's harder to do in baseball. The Dolphins also have a couple of playoff experiences.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I think over the what? The last four years they had the same amount. I think, I don't want to speak for Jeremy. He can speak for himself. You haven't been paying attention to the last 12 months if you think this is still a poorly run organization. That's all. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:43:40 From a front office perspective. Like it really is. And we'll see what happens this off season. and like what supplements are put in there to add to what's been going on. But I like Bendix. I'm just stale organization in the dolphins. Like I think that's the frustration, right? I'm pushing back on Dan at just like, I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I might be wrong. I don't think of Stephen Ross as the main problem. The Dolphins have won, the Marlins have won two championships and with no payroll, not with equal payrolls, with no payroll. And in a pandemic season, they've made the playoffs twice. It's ridiculous, but it's harder to do than the dolphins make it look in football. Where over 25 years, I'm not kidding when I tell you, I could just hire a team of circus clowns in 25 years. I'll win a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:44:30 A playoff game. One, one wild card playoff game. It's a crazy epic fail at the end of Stephen Ross's career. The Browns won a playoff game. That's true. Marlins won a wild card series. Panthers won two Stanley Cops. Well, we're back.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I want to get to one more happens to know because Mike Ryan has fresh reporting snooping around the Florida job. Billy Napier, I mean, I thought that was a pretty seismic change. We've got three great jobs in this state and two decent ones. And at FAU and FIU, people who keep trying to build their way to what Christopal gets to be a part. of, but Florida getting rid of its head coach as a standard setter in the middle of a season saying, we beat Mississippi State, but no, we need to climb to where, ridiculously, Missouri and Vanderbilt are, where we're a more serious competitor and threat to Alabama. Florida's fallen behind knows it and so guillotine somebody because the building was burning there too
Starting point is 00:45:37 and the stakes there in Gainesville. They've just told you what the standard is. It's higher than it is at most places. They'll pay for someone to go away. Middle of a season. Get out of here. Whether it be Penn State or Florida, it's safe to say both those schools. Right now, the highest commanding salary in the sport is Kirby Smart, which is at 13 in change. I expect us to go in the $15 million range, be at Penn State, be at Florida, be at both those schools. Do you think if James Franklin wasn't fired, would Florida have fired Billy Napier this week? That's an interesting question. I don't know, but I do think that the James Franklin's, Franklin decision has made other programs like FSU. They had a big come to Jesus meeting and they
Starting point is 00:46:17 decided we'll stay the course. Their financial situation is more dire than Florida. Florida has got a war chest waiting for this day for several seasons. The leading contender at both these schools is Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame. There was some back channeling last year. Seems like he loves it there. He wants to go to the pros. So I think as I understand it, what happens to Notre Dame season. Happen to understand? He said happens to Notre Dame. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:44 What happens to Notre Dame is important. I want to know what level of reporting you're giving us here. I mean, the leading contender. You happen to understand. It's like 1A, 1B, Marcus Freeman, Lane Kiffin. Wow. And whoever it is is going to get a bag. They're talking about serious bags.
Starting point is 00:46:59 And there was a level of back channeling last year with Marcus Freeman and Florida, gauging interest. Just like there's always been Lane Kiffin flirting with a return to the, state of Florida. It's like players in the portal. You may have a coach. It's what's happening with Stephen Ross right now. You may have a coach in place, but you're making calls. So the dream ideal candidate is dropping a bag and taking Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame. This is breaking news being delivered by Cowboy Mike Ryan. No one else is reporting that. Cowboy, I don't know about this. This is Cowboy Mike Ryan. He's reporting exclusively. That's what happens to know.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I'm not reporting exclusively. The international media needs to pick this up. What do you mean? you're not reporting exclusively. There are people that are plugged into Florida that have, you know, you check the blogs. They're like Lane Kiff and Marcus Freeman, too. I haven't heard anyone else. I'm giving it to you. Okay. I'll take it. But I mean, the Florida pursuit
Starting point is 00:47:53 of Marcus Freeman and Lane Kiffin is years long and is pretty well understood. Notre Dame does not look. Brian Kelly has been exposed at LSU. Notre Dame, everyone understands this, right? They don't think they're beneath Florida. They don't think that they lose their hot shot. They're
Starting point is 00:48:08 They're about the holy touchdown Jesus and you're about the pride of what this school makes you. Those don't, Notre Dame coaches don't take demotions to go to the SEC. You know about touchdown Jesus? You saw it. What about Brian Kelly and his family? Howdy listeners? It's Mike Ryan and Chris Cody. Hey, everyone. Hey, Chris.
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