The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Chicken of the Trees

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

After Amin Elhassan reveals he's "not a good breather," Dan wants to have a conversation with the Oddball crew and the Shipping Container about iguanas taking over South Florida. Then, Mike still hate...s K*** L**** of the Miami Heat, Chris wants us to appreciate their recent years of success, and Erik Spoelstra's divorce leads us to discussing the loneliness and unhappiness in coaching. Plus, Charlotte freezes, Mark Cuban getting out of NBA ownership could mean a sign of something more, and JuJu and Amin tell us about an impromptu stand-up show they witnessed last night. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don't LaboTar Show with the Stugat's Podcast. Hey Mike, Henry Kissinger died for some power. Hey Mike and Rick Kissinger died for some power I mean just said right before we started I'm not a good breather. I've discovered and I have gotten Complaints recently because people have been complaining about our audio and other things that as a show and me, I think, as a chief culprit, not good breathers that we breathe too heavily into the microphone.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I've gotten an assortment of complaints. How is it that you arrived at the conclusion of me and that you're not a good breather? It's been something in the back of my mind for the last few months and it all comes down to actually doing this job, but not breathing into the microphone. It's my ability to deliver content without taking a breath. I can't do it like I used to be able to do it.
Starting point is 00:01:14 So now I find myself running out of breath mid sentence and trying to look for that exit ramp so it doesn't sound like I just don't like that. That happens to Stugat and Greg Cody a great deal. I wonder if it is a stamina issue. Charlotte, have you noticed this on oddball? Have you noticed that he's running out of breath as he sprints toward the finish line on a point? Now that you say it, a little bit. Now that you say it, sometimes you'll have a pause in a place that I think is for a fact.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And I'm like, oh, interesting choice, but you're just trying to breathe. I'm just trying to breathe okay we should probably sharpen that up as professional communicators we will try to do that we will probably fail i wanted to ask uh... charlotte and jessick i don't know what their experience has been in my army here with iguanas with uh... throughout the seasons i told you i've told you the story that Pat Riley came out of... Love him. Pat Riley came out of his home one time,
Starting point is 00:02:11 around this time of year, and there were still, and what he thought, dead iguanas all over the place because when it gets cold, because they shouldn't be here, they're an invasive species, when it gets cold because they shouldn't be here, they're an invasive species. When it gets cold, they freeze up and try and protect their bodies, and it looks like they're dead, and what he ended up doing is burying them, and then they were dead. But they were not dead at the time,
Starting point is 00:02:40 and the reason I bring this up is it's gotten worse and South Florida, and there are a bunch of city and county commissions trying to do stuff about getting rid of them they say humanely and when I heard how it is that you get rid of snakes in the everglades you mainly it's by putting a bullet in their head very quickly it's not very humane uh... but i know you mean you're to kill them like you want it to be fast that is the most human and also root word of human is human
Starting point is 00:03:04 uh... i'd rather get rid of these delivery boxes on wheels than iguanas like you want it to be fast. That is the most humane. And also, root word of humane is human. I'd rather get rid of these delivery boxes on wheels than iguanas. I mean, those things are far more terrifying. They are. I discovered them in California, and I didn't understand how all of them are in ditches, how they aren't broken into,
Starting point is 00:03:17 how are they aren't causing accidents. I was amazed in traffic that they were able to navigate traffic. I see the same one every day walking to the bright line. I'm always like, where are you going? Same time, every day. How do you know it's the same one, Chris? I mean, it's the same, it's around my walk.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I'm walking to the bright line the afternoon. This thing's always coming down North Miami Avenue. And it says, good morning, Chris. And like, ah, it's you again. They don't talk. They will. They will in the future. But they don't talk yet.
Starting point is 00:03:42 To answer your question about iguanas, my experience has been since I moved here. When I lived in New York, I they don't talk yet. To answer your question about iguanas, my experience has been since I moved here. When I lived in New York, I had a dog willow. We all know and love except to mean. And when I'd take her for walks, and then you'd see something dark around on the sidewalk out of the corner of your eye, it would always be a huge rat. And so I got used to being kind of startled
Starting point is 00:03:59 every time I saw something scurry by me on the sidewalk. Then I moved to Miami, and every time I see something scurry by me on the sidewalk now, I kind of like jump, but then I'm like, oh, it's just a lizard or an iguana. And they're not as scary to me. So I kind of am excited and happy to see them now because I just expect them to be rats, and they're not. Seems like it's just me.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I don't, do you like rats, I mean? I don't, do you like iguanas? Yeah, because they're not rats. Why'd you adopt one? Okay, maybe I will. God-a-res. Yes. Internet one, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Zero. Have you seen green orange ones, the big ones, the giant ones? You haven't been scared by any of the big ones that are much bigger than rats. So we have, they're not quite alligators, but they're certainly not lizards, they're big. I've seen ones in the keys that are so big that you'll,
Starting point is 00:04:43 they'll climb from limb to limb and the entire tree will shake and you're you're like looking up like oh my god like what is in and that's just you just see a huge tail and the tail is three times as long as the body it's truly wild. What is the natural predator for Niguana? Pat Riley? Golf balls. I would just like to say that freeze up and look like they're dead is what I do when I can't land a joke on this show. You waited. You almost had the window before that you waited for the time to make it. Do you like when I repeat the joke that's now too late to say?
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's fun. No, I think that I'm trying to get to this place with the iguana. I have not seen this before. It's being called the chicken of the trees. Oh, did it get good? By some of the people who are talking and being quoted in a story that tells me that city commissions are trying to get rid of them and one of the ways to get rid of them is by eating them. Tuna was advertised, was it, what, what was the company? Was it sunkis? Bumblebee tuna. As, as chicken of the seas, and now I've Was it what what was the company was it? Sun kiss bumblebee too
Starting point is 00:05:45 as as chicken of the seas and now I've heard iguanas described as chicken of the trees I've lived here all my life without ever hearing that and without ever knowing that that would be something that people would treat as Edible Listen to this lead from this article. The was this the Florida Something or other all right nailed it. Yep. Well, many people had you decided to do the sourcing on that just so that you could get the sourcing that generally wrong. Florida something or other. Well, many people view South Florida's invasive iguana
Starting point is 00:06:15 population as an annoyance at best and a pandemic at worst. Ishmael S.On sees something else. Lunch. Ass on? Ass on is spelled exactly like that, ASS-O-N. I was just talking to Thomas in the other room, and he was saying that he has had both iguana and camel,
Starting point is 00:06:36 and he can attest to it tasting something like chicken. And we got a quote from Mr. Asson. Quote, I prefer to eat it with the skin on, he said, because then I know what I'm eating. It kind of gives you a sense of humor like, this is iguana, you know? No, I mean, that's not a really. Put it on the eating voice.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Put it on the poll at Labatard show, would you eat iguana if it was served at a gourmet restaurant and you were promised that it was chicken of the trees? Aren't chickens chicken of the trees? They go in trees. Can chickens fly? They cannot. Chickens go in trees?
Starting point is 00:07:16 I've seen them in high places where they go up and then they cootle. They what? You see the chicken in a tree? That's what they do. They go up to a little high branch somewhere. Is koodle a word? What is koodle?
Starting point is 00:07:28 So what do you call it? What I thought it clocked. I thought a chicken clock. No, that's when they, that's a clock. Chickens can fly, but not for long distances. At what point is it just a jump? Cockadoodle. To koodle is to cook something.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And there's also a koodle pillow which is a couple's foam cuddling pillow. But can chickens climb trees because Jessica is saying that they can climb trees and I also to treat in an indulgent over protective way. Some breed yes. No that's cattle. Not not all breeds perch and tree branches. Smaller lighter chickens with longer wings can fly better than meatier breeds. So yes, they can. Stupid auto-cars.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Also, I was going to say we need to put some respect on iguanas because they are the closest thing we have to dinosaurs and we need to respect what came before us. But then I googled it. I said, I googled our iguanas related to dinosaurs. It says iguanas did not descend from dinosaurs, so we can eat them. Yeah. How would you spell koodle?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Also, would you not eat a dinosaur if it was available? I'd try it. Absolutely, man. Oh my god, some T-Rex wings. The fried T-Rex. Oh, boy. Looks like koodle is not. Broncosaurus ribs, like,
Starting point is 00:08:44 brontosaurus rib, like, slimstones, I slide down. Oh boy, looks like Koodle is not a broad, broad the source, broad the source ribs like splint stones, I slide down. I feel like if a dinosaur showed up right now, I probably wouldn't want to eat it. I'd be like, we should protect this thing. I better explain point guard for the heat.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Put it on the pole, please, at Levitard show, would you eat fried T-rex at Levitard show? I'm glad we got to the bottom off all that. Since Mike Ryan mentioned disapproved. The Miami Heat, Mike Ryan the reason Kyle Lowry suddenly hates the media in Miami.
Starting point is 00:09:16 He's always been someone who likes the media and he doesn't like the way that Heat fans talk about him. He's one of the most unpopular players in heat history. Is he, are we just saying that? No, he's Zazzle's least favorite heat player. I feel like that's pretty overstated though. Meets. I don't hear outside of Zazzle and Mike.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I don't hear this hate for Kyle Lowry. I don't see you at the meetings. There aren't a lot of heat players historically who have been hated and frustrating. Drimall Mashburn is among them. And Tuan Walker was before he won a championship. And so Kyle Lowry is in that class of frustrating.
Starting point is 00:09:50 They expected a Hall of Fame last piece type of player and he has not been that. And so that is where the frustration is. They went to the finals. My frustration lies with them expecting a Hall of Fame point guard when he was very clearly diminishing. I sometimes I wonder about you guys. Like has the success warped your brain in the sense that?
Starting point is 00:10:12 I'm not mad at Kyle. Kyle I think is aging at a normal rate for a professional basketball player that does absolutely have all the fame credentials. I was mad at the roster edition and I just can't get mad at the Miami Heat front office every time he's coming down the court doing nothing. Here's my thing.
Starting point is 00:10:30 One, if you're asking me what I'd rather had drug itch and precious itchua than Kyle Lowry. Yes, I would rather have that. But the most hated, that's... I said one of the most hated ones. And I said I'm so straight. And I said I'm so straight. And I said I'm so straight.'s I said one of one of the most hated most hated. Yeah, no he's he's up there and you know it's great to see him with Josh Richardson who also occupies this precious space. It is wild just to hear the tone around this team because you hear y'all this the other night in the post game just praising. Like talking about last year when they beat it like you just watch this team and nobody plays harder than the heat.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And it seems like we don't appreciate this. I feel like this run that this heat team is on with the talent that they have is just so impressive. And we're sitting here talking about how much we hate Kyle out. In four years, they've been to the finals twice and they lost in the game seven on the day. And you have Yannis just being like,
Starting point is 00:11:20 after I got eliminated last year, I watched them in the playoffs. And yeah, they're not flashy names. They just play harder than everybody. And that's pretty cool that we have that team and we're still nitpicking. The thing that I wanted to talk to you about because of the roster construction.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah, it can, can you nitpick on one of the biggest contracts on the team? That's, that's a pretty big nitpick. It hate, do you hate Kyle Lowry? Do you hate what Kyle Lowry does or do you hate Kyle Loury? Oh, well Kyle Loury is a very nice man. He used to be a friend of the show before we started sharing honest opinions about the man, but I don't hate Kyle Loury.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He walked through a drive-through, okay? Hilo is be fine with you. He seems to like, he seems like he's always, yeah. That's nice. Well put. He's right though. No, he is. Like he's part of it. When he went on, like, you know, TNT's post game show
Starting point is 00:12:08 during the post season run last year, the playoffs, that's what you call it. I'm a basketball. You got this, keep going. No, he was like speaking about the team and about what they were doing with such. He was so into it. He was so bought in.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And I feel like is it that he's just not delivering on that? I think that the team just could have been better had they gone in a different direction. I think that's pretty irrefutable, and this is a team that Chris pointed out has had plenty of success, and I don't think Kyle Lowry's having a bad year necessarily this year.
Starting point is 00:12:39 It's just, it ties your hand behind your back when it comes to helping improve this roster, there's a roster that has very aggressive front office members that have been trying to improve the team. Cal Aure's name has often been floated in trades. And thankfully, it's an expiring deal. So it has a little bit more value in the Bizarro MBA where acquiring one of those at the deadline
Starting point is 00:13:02 is actually a big coup because you're trying to, that's actually a chicken word. Coodle is not. It's just he's not. He's not why are we doing the call Irish again? I didn't mean to. I wanted to move past that I've been trying to for a second, but we kind of got stuck there and in the middle of it, I mean, hopefully, and something only me and Charlotte could hear whispered ever so gently to his teammate on oddball Well said after
Starting point is 00:13:28 She you said well said. I said nice. I do have a take just splintering off of I didn't hear anything from I mean you whispered to somebody Somebody I think it was Chris Cody So you said well said the Chris Cody Chris. And I didn't say anything. So you said, well said, the Chris Cody about Charlotte. I didn't say well said. Okay. I said, right, young.
Starting point is 00:13:51 But you mentioned this segment as well, say that. Don Lebertard. All these high paid analysts, I don't want to mention names. TNT, ESBM, you know, oh yeah, they can't look at it. They're not going to make it, you know, even if they win, if they lose it in Miami. I mean, they calm you down. I mean, they're not going to calm you down.
Starting point is 00:14:14 They lose it in Miami. They don't got a chance in Boston. Oh, they're not going to have their ass, you know, wanting Boston, you know, stugats. They were wrong. They were, are they going to lose their job? No, are they going to get a cutting paint? No, what are they going to do? Keep predicting what is the obvious. They are going to say, oh, the nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude. And you know what? The heat are going to win
Starting point is 00:14:35 it all. This is the Dan Lebatar show with his two guts. You mentioned all the success at the Miami Heat have had over the last four years and recently coming within. This is where I was trying to get. A Max Truce heel of Back-to-Back NBA Finals is, it's been reported now. Obviously, many people are just learning about this, but Spowe and his now ex-wife have announced their divorce. And if you look at the last two post-sens and you take all of Miami's on court success,
Starting point is 00:15:12 it's incredible. When you consider what the coach has been going through, his life has been, his personal life over the last two years has been turned upside down. Health issues with a child, now his marriage now becoming public knowledge that that's no longer a child. Now his marriage now becoming public knowledge that that's no longer a thing. Incredible to navigate all of that
Starting point is 00:15:31 because these are horrible things this man has been dealing with. And this team has found a way to have Janus speak about them in glowing terms. And in everyone's eyes, from experts to casuals, know that this mine heat, over the last few years, has been punching well above its weight class. And elevating his legacy is in my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And I saw Phil and I saw Pat Riley, I'd put Eric Spolstra up there with all of them. One of the greatest NBA coaches of all time, ranked as such when the NBA anniversary stuff came out, incredible job navigating all of that stuff to have this team that has nothing really special had that much success. I wanted to talk about the difficulties of that combined with what is happening right now with the praise of BAM on a bio when you take Tyler here off the court when you take Jimmy Butler off of the court and then
Starting point is 00:16:29 all of a sudden we're left with a game where Janice and Lillard are going against BAM and on one end BAM is guarding Janice and well and then at the end of the game they put him on Lillard because that's where the ball's going it's not going to Janice and on the other other end, as a mean, has been maybe the most vocal national critic of BAM out of bio refusing to call him BAM when the other pieces are off of the floor, all of a sudden. And this has been all season, whether they're on the floor or not. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:02 He is shooting a ton. He's being aggressive. And he's going at Janice, who is a defensive player of the year, not. Thank you. He is shooting a ton. He's being aggressive and he's going at Yannis, who is a defensive player of the year, a pretty impossible guard. And I thought the growth of BAM was over. I mean, I go by the standard that Darryl Mori puts out there in general player analysis that is subjective, which is three years, you know, you know what a guy is. He's only going to improve so much after that.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And you've seen a very obvious leap from Bam out of bio. And I know people around here are sick of the phrase heat culture. I want to place them sound here from Shaquille O'Neill defining heat culture, even though he, upon arrival, tried to change it more than anyone, upon arrival, because he was his own economy and he didn't feel like he had to listen to some of the things around him because he had
Starting point is 00:17:50 grown very used to being a player who built jobs to his specifics and it earned it actually after championships and dominance and everything else. But Shaquille O'Neill now in retrospect, even though he didn't like being pushed quite so much, has a definition for this heat culture that we talk about that indoors beyond a divorce and a sick child as Eric Spolster tries to keep something together with together with a mania, a mean that I believe, simply doesn't allow a human being to actually be happy. The obsession that these coaches have to abide by does not allow them a balance. It does not, it does, it never minds supporting having a balance. It doesn't allow the kind of balance
Starting point is 00:18:47 that can result in happiness if the way that you measure success is only by winning and all around you your life falls apart. And I don't mean to, by the way, I want to start here. I don't know, obviously, what happens in that marriage or in any marriage. There are a lot of contributing factors to divorce. Sposed divorce, we're not talking about sposed divorce.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We're talking about, it's an on-ramp to a conversation that's bigger than that, which is, can you have a normal life and do this job? And do this job well? And can you have a happy life? Can you have a, not just a normal life? I'm not even talking about normal and balanced. I'm talking about, yesterday, Chris Cody objected
Starting point is 00:19:23 to me saying that I wouldn't be right now, one wouldn't want to be a college football coach for all the money in the world. And Billy's response was, well, if they get fired, then they get their money. They get all the money in the world. Yes. However, all of the people in that job, the way their mentality works, they can't be like, ah, if I get fired, whatever. Like that's not, you're not a good coach.
Starting point is 00:19:44 If you're like, ah, if I get fired, whatever, Like that's not, you're not a good coach. If you're like, ah, if I get fired, whatever, that person has no chance of being a good head coach. Now, I'll make that a cross sports. If there is a head coach that enters the job, the thinking, if I get fired, eh, you will fail. You will fail as a coach. All of those people are driven in a way that is mentally unhealthy to compete against
Starting point is 00:20:05 other mentally unhealthy people around their obsession and spow is better than any of them because he's a little more committed than the rest of them in a way that i don't believe can make people happy and i think will question what will test their sanity well i think it depends what happiness means to you, not to be that guy. But for some people, if you are that competitive, happiness is that feeling of being in the zone. You don't think so, I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:35 The Pat Riley quote is, there's winning, and then there's misery. There is no, wow, that was a job well done. And even when you are at that elite level of winning, like the respite that comes from not winning is so short. So what I mean by that is Steve Kerr walks in and is immediately at the very apex of not just competition and winning,
Starting point is 00:21:02 but now you're competing against ghosts as I lost my breath right there. That's just happened right there. I heard it. So now he's competing against ghosts. He's competing against fills and reds and people like that, right? The happiest year, he won't say this out loud.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I think the happiest year he had was that year when everybody was hurt and they won like 20 games. Cause it's just like, oh my god, like we're just teaching basketball now. But he gets to be that happy because he knew, we'll be back, like when everyone gets healthy, we'll be back to doing that Apex predator stuff. But for just one day, one year to walk around,
Starting point is 00:21:38 it doesn't matter if we win or lose tonight because we're terrible and that's all it is. That is very rare for most of these guys. They win, they get the champagne, they get the parade, and then they're back to being paranoid for the rest of time. And that's why that Pat Riley code is everything. Winning and misery, that's true for 99% of coaches, I would say. I have had a number of conversations with Pat Riley where he seems to find it weird that I'm always asking him about why aren't you happier?
Starting point is 00:22:11 Why aren't you happier? And he's like, that stuff is fleeting. And he showed up, he showed up, he surprised me, caught me off guard at the memorial for my brother and gave me some advice that no one else has given me throughout all of this as I've been like, just totally broken, totally broken. And it caught me off guard, and I'm not sure I even totally understood it,
Starting point is 00:22:37 because we were talking about writing, and he said, go to the loneliness, go to it. It's good for you. That's where greatness is. And I wonder at the end of his life, as he inspects mortality and wherever it is, you do the deathbed regret stuff, whether what Charlotte is saying is true,
Starting point is 00:22:58 that the height of it, the height of competition, the happiest feeling that these people can feel, Pat Riley says, yes, game seven is the greatest feeling because they don't actually hang you in a town square by your thumbs. Like it's the height of all the things I am competing against somebody else and all the things they are. All the things I've poured into the loneliness. Like Drupurys talked about this, the loneliness of being in the facility at nine o'clock at night, because he needed to know more than everyone else.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And everyone else is gone. All those other bodies that are killing each other are gone. But the greatness was where Drew Brees was in the meeting room by himself, like, just I gotta over prepare. I gotta be more prepared than everybody else. I've not heard since that advice either from everybody, as everyone's got a lot of advice on how I should deal with grief.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And no one else has given me the advice of go to the loneliness. That seems scary to me. Like, I got away from writing and did this because I want laughter, I want communal shit, I want stuff that's shared, but when you share that misery with other people, it is the height of happiness in that world,
Starting point is 00:23:59 but it'll get you divorced. Like, yeah, well, you don't have to take every bit of advice it was a suggestion Just just playing Niggle back in the locker room and stugats They'll play D and show threes as I chase the net for the six seed These five words in his head To be my way winning games yeah This is the down lebatar show with this to got Still gots! I don't even want the shack culture video anymore because I know how sick people are of heat culture.
Starting point is 00:24:56 I don't think there's anything I can talk about here that's going to agitate people more. But Tan, it is the local hour and it is on max and this did happen on TNT and that's what you call corporate synergy. Yeah. Okay, all of this happened. Well, that changes everything. Yeah. I hadn't even considered that possibility and we didn't talk about the merging of Stephen A. Smith and Michael Wilbon and TNT. We didn't even talk about how now you have public comments, Zazlov, the head of all of Discovery's stuff. Zazlov is awesome.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Is saying that they don't need the NBA anymore, that they're not into renting properties. Yeah, I don't think he exactly said that. I think the question was posed to him about because the NBA rights deal is coming up. And I'm a little concerned as to why more Cuban would be jumping ship at this time. There's all sorts of conjectures to whether or not they're actually gonna get what they thought they were gonna get a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But I think kind of ties into intellectual property, the intellectual property conversation that a mean kind of started yesterday, a little bit that leasing properties and renting properties isn't really where these big content companies are going now. They want a stake in the action. I actually read way into his comments and started assuming, wait, you have equity in some of these other sports and entertainment properties that you're putting over the air because in
Starting point is 00:26:20 the wrestling rumor mill, are you tipping your hand that you kind of own AEW? And what do we make of you negotiating reportedly with Nikon and WWE and bringing them into the fold? So it's an interesting place right now with all these live rights broadcast because as you know, ratings are different now, streamers and whatnot and lives and viewer habits
Starting point is 00:26:40 have changed. It's a fascinating time and big decisions need to be made. You caught my eye, I mean on oddball, it's all one of these clips. It's not just because you're handsome, but it was because of a take that you had about Mark Cuban actually leaving at this really important time in the NBA's history. Yeah, no, he went on all the smoke and said, the next deal is all right, but the deal after that I'm worried about He also said that the NFL does better than us on TV But we do way better than them on social and we beat them on social more than they beat us on TV
Starting point is 00:27:19 Which is fine except TV has the money and is paying the money at this stage of the game and social really isn't. And so until they figure out how to monetize, then that's not, that doesn't really do much. So for Mark Cuban to sell to me, again, the guy who founded broadcast.com, the reason why we're able to stream audio
Starting point is 00:27:42 and stream things on the internet is because of his company. He sold it shortly before the dot com bubble burst. So if there's anything, I know this dude knows when to get out. And so now he's getting out. That tips me off a little. Not only getting out, but getting out when you know him to be among all of the basketball owners, the one who is most tethered to emotionally loving that team. Like publicly went what you know of owners, most of them hide in the shadows.
Starting point is 00:28:15 His love is public. There might be other guys who love it. I think the bus family there for reasons that go beyond. So casual NBA observer, I think you're parsing at this point. Dan's, that's not a wild take from Dan. I think he's in t-shirts on the bench. Well, I think the biggest proof to what you're trying to say is the guy sold his team and negotiated for a way to still run it,
Starting point is 00:28:39 which is that's unheard of. So we will see how true that ends up being, all of that, because I'm with Samson. That doesn't smell right. Usually if people buy something, they want power over it. And the arguments that start over after that get complicated. So I understand why Mark Cuban would want that
Starting point is 00:28:59 and why it would be publicly stated. I don't understand if they're gonna be able to make that tenable. Unless it's because the Adelson Trust, Miriam Adelson and her son-in-law and the trust of Sheldon Adelson that they're using to buy this is they're seeing it as a place to park their money. Unless they're seeing it as like, okay, well, real estate's a little messed up right now. Let's put our money into a sports team.
Starting point is 00:29:21 We don't really want to deal with it. And Mark seems to love this. So have at it. You can run the basketball part. And I don't think that's necessarily a sustainable relationship, because I think especially if you're a competitive person, you probably want ownership over the thing you're running eventually. Like, it doesn't quite match up to me, but I think the only way that that makes sense is
Starting point is 00:29:42 if this is a strict place to park money, assuming it's going to appreciate what mean it's saying. It's like back when big corporations were buying teams, ITT shares and owned the Nix and Time Warner owned that Land of Hawks, right? Like, did they care? They don't really care. They don't want to play fantasy basketball. It's like Lincoln Financial enters the sports media game. It's just an investment that they're trying to flip off. And there is, there is some precedent happening right now in the world of sports. It's international.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's Premier League soccer, but the reports are, the glazers are selling a 25% share to a British billionaire. And that 25% would actually be a controlling interest in terms of business operations while not being the majority owner. So there are, I know it's different across upon, but there is very recent precedent of this. Well, they, if it turns out Mark Cuban, it means right and Mark Cuban is selling because you see something other people don't see what they call the movie about at the big tall because it's NBA
Starting point is 00:30:46 The big short get it. Okay It is a great deal for Mark Cuban though to be able to stay with all the parts of the business that you love While you wait to see if the next TV contract is the one that will become everyone else's headache. So you sell now, you make all of the money, you get the parts of the sport, you still love by running the team and you'll get out before the next, if the bad, if the thing falls apart financially, you don't have any of the risk anymore. Well, he does have because he still retains some of the risk, right? Whatever his stake is, but it's not going to fall apart that way.
Starting point is 00:31:23 The idea is that he got paid, he got got he cashed out and still retains some ownership and most importantly retains the ability to continue to play with the toy right so that's like I'm selling you my buzz lightyear hold on but I get to play with it every every day though I get to come to every house and play with it and you're like yeah I just want it to sit on the shelf I don't actually play with it is this what Vince McMahon did by selling 30% of his steak in the company that he formed and getting $700 million for it, where you're selling a piece of it before things get too crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:54 You're getting out so that you can get a substantive amount of cash, you're lowering your risk about what you're, but you're still staying around the thing that you want and not divesting completely. You're just taking your initial victory lap. I mean, it's great. Get capital, retain power. Although internally censored, it is a different company.
Starting point is 00:32:12 This low key might be a transition for WWE away from Vince McMahon too. It was reported that in the recent signing of CM Punk that there wasn't a Vince call. It was a Nikon and Triple H call. And then the people that follow the dirt sheets that say to this day, there isn't anything that doesn't have his stamp on it. But I think with as it pertains to Vince, he had a bad investment with the XFL a couple times over and anytime that you can cash out to that tune. I wouldn't necessarily read too much into it, but look at his age. He's certainly at the end of his time running it.
Starting point is 00:32:42 People that follow the what? Dirt sheets. What are the what? Dirt sheets. Dirt sheets. Dirt sheets are internet term for the rumor mill when it comes to pro wrestling. I would love to recreate if we're going to make these inside references where Mike Ryan is in the meetings where they hate Kyle Lowry.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I would love to have a recreation of what those meetings look like that Chris Cody hasn't been allowed to attend because he's just micens as well. No one texted each other. Cortes is there. Oh, by the way, I got a chime in. I'm I don't know. Lousin, I don't know if I'm allowed to say who chimed in,
Starting point is 00:33:18 but the name Hassan Whiteside was brought up. That's a Trump card all year. Well, I would also put Beasley on that all frustration team. My good Beasley, yep. That's another one. Trump card all year. I would also put Beasley on that all frustration team. My good Beasley, yep. That's another one. Trump cards all your frustration team. This is the hate is thrown around too easily around here. What the hell is going on today?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Heat culture, Mark Cuban, business show, let's speak for America when I say, wait the hell up everybody. It's an NFL game going on tonight. The cop won't play the Seahawks and then an important game. That ain't even local topic. Look what down with your topic is. It's local, no, not my topic, local topic.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I couldn't hear you, the weak ass hip on it. What I'm saying to you is brother, it's a lot of excitement going on. And y'all see here talking about hate, get the hell up out of here, y'all wake up. Yes. I love you Charlotte, you ate it very hard. I go, two minutes ago, I wanna tell you, I love you though.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I appreciate this. How is she doing? I can't even look at her that she took the swing I'm a dead iguana. I'm frozen. I've fallen out of my tree Pat Riley's about to pick me up and bury me in his backyard Maybe front you have to keep taking the swings you have to go towards the lonely go toward the lonely. It's funny Not if you have to say big short after I love you shot it I wasn't sure you all got it because it was so esoteric. Oh, I got it. It was yes Too layered too layered. You you you are bringing positivity the environment as you always do You and a mean went to a stand-up show you can use some laughter in your life because as our social media correspondent You have to understand juju is overseeing a toxic waste dump,
Starting point is 00:34:45 and he's doing it artfully. He is creating art in the sewer because it's an acid pit. And what he has to endure is unfair. I feel for him every day. I see how basically it is simply a place where the most repressed and the angriest of people can anonymously sort of do the things they want to do more publicly and can hide while doing it. And so it's the worst parts of everything.
Starting point is 00:35:14 That doesn't mean it doesn't have its great elements. But Juju has been battered by everything that's happening there, seeing the underbelly of America being just awful. And you and Amine decided to take in a standup show yesterday? It was by accident. We just happened to be at a bar, and then I standup show broke out. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Open Mike, quotations around standup show. Wow, I could have got up there. You feel me? Here's one brother salute to him for having this great. And it's the Williams, shout it out to And it's the Williams. Oh no, so let's salute the Hennessy will he was funny as hell and Brittany Brave Who was a guest on because Miami if you were Billy Corbin check it out whenever you can weekdays at Friday But yeah, it was one brother that every joke was with the misharlade jokes that she told Every single joke that silence
Starting point is 00:36:04 Okay, okay, that's They have a name now She told every single joke that silence Okay, that's they have a name now Oh, no, Charlotte no One of them Charlotte jokes to you that you salute to her but what no, she understands I love her more than anything. Yeah, I also, yeah, I get it. Yeah, but he was in there bombing. He was bombing so bad that it was hilarious. Man, dude, you said a dine. Everything was coming out of his mouth.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You man's well been anti-merfrist, as far as I was concerned. Because he was bombing and he didn't give a damn. Next joke, coming up hot. It's like Pac-Man when you go on this side and then all of a sudden you reappear on the other side. His shit was so unfunny that he reappeared on the funny side, on over here, man. A mean has a deep, deep appreciation for things
Starting point is 00:36:54 sinking into the unfunny and the thing that reminds me of it is him trying ventriloquism yesterday with a fish for the first time. Damn. It was pretty good. I don't know what you're talking about. It was good, is it?

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