The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Dan Le Batard Show Sans Dan Le Batard

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

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Give me some music, Chris. In the EP chair. Oh, this is nice. It's Chris Cody, AKA Christmas Cody, AKA Big Red. Wow! Hoo, hoo! Woo! Am I supposed to say anything?

Nope, back to you. Hoo, hoo was good, I liked that. Ho, ho. Next to him, we got Roy, the Ice Man, AKA the Boy Toy. Yeah! Roy Bellamy. What's up? We love you Roy!

Ha! In the back row behind Roy, we got Jessica Smetana, AKA Smetty Wap aka trap queen Across from them will jump that we got my guy my security blanket, Charlie Kravitz aka the vanilla snack, hit him with a salute, Curly, Justin Timber fake, and our number one go-to guys, the quickest man in history, quite possibly the most talented dude in this building right now. He also dressed like he cared about himself, which I appreciate which is rare for the LeBata show. It's Andrew

the Hulk Hawkins Let's go and Mike I thought that was Mike's intro until you said Hawk. I'm like, man, he is quick. Quick as a whip. The fastest man to do what? No, he's witty.

Oh man, hey guys. Gonna have a good show today. I wanna start with some football because it's me and Hawk in here. Let's talk ball. Talking football. Real ball knowers in here. Hut, hut!

And it's the only sport that this country really really cares about all the other sports are tertiary There's one sport that's main and that's football and we finna get some more of it supposedly so hog 18 games I don't get it. I don't see a lot of supportive faces at that comment. Yeah, it was ready went right to the laptop Roy was checking his emails It's like I feel good about it like a niche sport equinox going on recently, especially down here in South Florida. Yeah. So don't start with football.

But if it was in terms of country NIL, football would take like 80% of the pot, right? It does in actual NIL. So it also contributes 100% of the pot. I guess it doesn an actual NIL. Yeah, so it also contributes 100%. I guess it doesn't need an analogy. You're right. You want to start with some niche sports equinox? No, run the damn ball.

Start with football. Run the rock. FB dive. Oh, yeah. So the 18 game thing is something we've been talking about for a while. Even back when you and I were in the league, they put it on the table in the 2011 negotiations and we promptly slapped that shit right off the table. But we knew it was coming back around

because the NFL has a ton of power and leverage and money is what matters. So what are you thinking, Hawk, about the 18 game schedule that the owners are now the owner meeting and the breakers discussing it today? Number one, we're old as hell, right? I think this is the overarching lesson here is that we're all old, you guys as well,

not just me and Nick being fossil football players, because when they introduced it, it seemed so ridiculous. But here's the tactic that the league always uses and it always works. I remember, I think it was 2012, they were like, hey, we're gonna mandate that you wear knee pads. And it was an uproar. And that sounds crazy.

Everyone was like, what? We gotta wear knee pads? I'm gonna be so slow. And we tried to revolt against having to put, and it's like little fake pads that you can't even see, but just the fact that we had to put them on, because we didn't have to wear knee pads. It was just thigh pads.

And you don't think thigh pads were a thing. There was no thigh pads, no knee pads. We would rip the thigh pads out cause the thigh pads were made of like cushioning around a tiny plastic plate and everyone would cut the plate out and just put the like plate in your thighs or wear nothing. Or wear nothing. So I just wore shoulder pads on a game day. That's it. Just shoulder pads and a helmet. I would wear a helmet. That was a smart thing to do But I remember there being an uproar with all the players that they had to put these pads into their pants and then over time As the league got younger and guys came in and it was just the norm

No one ended up caring about it by the time that I retired and so that's the genius of the league Introduce 18 games at a point where everybody says how ridiculous it is, but now for the guys that are coming into the league, the young guys, they've been hearing it so long, they know it's coming, and it's not as big of a deal to them. I thought you, so I agree with that as the league strategy, and the league's other strategy is also be bigger and more powerful.

Yeah, also have all the leverage. Yeah, and so like- Do you want money or not? Yeah, we could talk about it. I think we should actually get into how the increased revenue is gonna be split because it's gonna go disproportionately to the Stars while the, in quarterbacks,

while the people who are gonna take the brunt of the wear and tear are not those guys. But I would like to also focus on how old we are because. It's a good topic. You know what? I remember coming up and learning that at one point there was only 14 games and I was like, man. What?

That's crazy. And to imagine that I played in the leagues, the league will soon have 18 games, I would have played, like you think about that. You think about the players who played in a 14 game league when we were in a 16 game league, I thought about them like they were like fossilized. I am going to be a guy very soon when they had 18 games

and they go like, oh, you play, they used to have 16 games? I'm like, yeah, we used to have 16 games. When did they have 14? Cause I'm not gonna lie, you just dropped that bomb on me live on air. I guess I assume- When the Dolphins went undefeated.

That at some point, yes, there were less games, but I never thought that there were living people. 1978 was when they switched to 16. 78. So we... Jeez. Yeah, this is not the smart idea to talk about how old we are to start this show.

But it does actually help out people that are feeling old in that this finally gets us to the President's Day Monday Super Bowl hangover. So most of the nation. This is how they're gonna sell it. They're gonna be like, look, all the fans want Monday after the Super Bowl off, you selfish players.

Just like that, I mean, I didn't think about that either. You guys are, you should work for the committee, damn. Well, you picked an industry, you're probably gonna have to work that day. We've always had it off. Now we're not gonna have it off. Ah, you picked an industry, you're probably gonna have to work that day. We've always had it off. Now we're not gonna have it off. Ah, shit.

I need it, it's okay that I have to work. No more games. I need more of you. No more games. So there's a couple different avenues that we could go down and I think the idea of flooding the market with a product eventually has some sort of backlash is one way to go, but I don't feel like we got any takers.

I was talking to Charlie about this yesterday, and he looked at me like I was stupid. Because I, so I know how ridiculous it sounds that giving more football could be a bad thing, because I know how much we all love football. However, the final week of the season last year, there was a lot of trash on my TV screen. Yeah.

I think we're to the point where we're going to need two bye weeks now. Wow. Oh, yeah. I like where your head's at, Roy. The two bye weeks is not going to solve the fact that there are going to be more irrelevant games at the end of the season.

And there's a possibility that we could get tired of football. Am I crazy? Am I crazy, Chris? No. By week 17 this year, I'm like, ah, I'm good on red zone. See you next week to the play. I mean, there are going to be some seasons that we're going to ask ourselves, why'd we do this? The last three weeks of the season are meaningless,

but then it's going to work out with the numbers that there's going to be a crazy wildcard chase and you're still going to have that issue, but it's not like that hasn't existed. I mean, the jets have been playing terrible and terrible football the last month of the season that hasn't really mattered for quite some time Hawk in your playing career. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for pointing out I mean you would take those trips to Jacksonville and you'd be like, all right, I guess I guess we have to play Did buy tickets? Just kept it centered at the organizations I've played for or like generalized

it, but I'm glad you specifically pointed out Hawk. I mean, if anyone has experience. If anyone has experience. There's been so many games I've watched you and I'm like, what does my life become? How many games did you play where it was like, all right, this means something? So all week ones. Yeah. Week ones were, ugh.

You'd get up for week one. You'd get up for week one. It was like that same intro Nick just did. It was me every week ones. Yeah week ones were Once we go the same intro Nick just did it was me every week one With the bangles I played some meaningful game. You made it to playoffs with the Browns in my years It was it was rough. It was a tough. It was a tough go. It's tough like before the leaves change your seasons done Yeah, man, it's still hot outside. It was like damn whose first overall pick they're saying next year Box in September It's still hot outside. They're like, damn. Who's first overall pick they're saying next year? No? Who am I going to meet? You're looking at box in September.

Yeah, I'm like, OK. I hope there's no hot receivers. It's like, there's not any really diminutive receivers that are super fast coming out. Is there? OK, good. I was fortunate enough to not have those situations. But I mean, I guess I'm not a math major.

But my thought would be that if you extend the season, there's more of a chance for you to end up with more teams that are out of it. And that's what I'm concerned about more than anything. And that aside, is it possible? And like this is a broader business question probably, that there's a bunch of different ways to like kill a business.

And maybe I'm wasting my time and I'm going down a really ridiculous path, but one of those ways is always tied to greed. Yep, over saturation. Yeah, and as we have the NBA, and I know we're not going to 82 football games, and we have Major League Baseball, I think we all acknowledge that.

The NBA would be far more entertaining if we had us a 60 game season. What? But aren't we already, if there was a tipping point for over saturation, wouldn't we have met it? It's not like ESPN covers the NFL all the time, even during the off season. We're just talking about one additional week.

I really don't think it means ESPN covers the sport more. I think we figured it out. As you guys are talking, I think I've cracked the code because I remember, and it's a bad take. I don't even forget when it was, but Mark Cuban saying pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered in 10 years, the NFL was gonna, and that is not the case.

And even though we get like late in the season annoyed by bad football or whatever the situations are, the ratings are as big as they ever have. And it's because it's not greed if you're addicted. You know what I mean? Like there's not like too much. There's not too much like crack. There's never been a dope dealer on the corner.

Yeah, it's like, man, how am I gonna move this? It's just gracious. This is also coming at a time where the NFL's finally agreed to let private equity invest in its teams for the first time. Yay, private equity makes everything better. Well, I mean, that's what's going to happen with the NBA with their European expansion. It's certainly going to be happening in college football.

Private equity has been sniffing around college football programs for years at this point. It's the reality of the situation. I guess to your point, Mike and Hawk, and I both work at ESPN. And we talk about football year round. So adding a week of more football, like we're going to be talking about it whether they're games or not. At least it'll be another week of a few meaningful games,

I guess. I don't want to just like bypass what Mark Cuban said 10 years ago, because when he said it 10 years ago, It seemed right. The league was facing issues. A lot of people put it on the Kaepernick stuff, but you had that going on simultaneously with the games just weren't good. Think of who the Super Bowl champion was one year with the Denver Broncos. Quarterback play wasn't great. The league had to do something about the sport and they did and that's probably- They got Taylor Swift today, Jason Travis Kelsey.

That's exactly what they did and honestly that's where- They got Taylor Swift today, Jason, Travis Kelsey. That's exactly what they did. And honestly, that's where Roger Goodell earned his hefty salary, because everyone was saying, fire Roger Goodell. He had the Ravensray Rice thing going on. It was a league in turmoil, and they righted the ship big time. I mean, it was also thought we were coming out

of the concussion stuff, and people, we cared for a hot seconds. Like, hey, for a hot seconds like hey it was a quick minute wasn't it that we cared and then remember play football like what do we do with this now yeah and I remember so like I guess we all have these things that you get like unreasonably attached to it as someone who played in NFL like I'm like an NFL guy and I remember the Mark Cuban quote and he called us hoggy he's like it's looking real hoggy Look who you're talking about

He's calling it hoggy fam All of a sudden you started defending the things you've been standing up for as a PA president Yeah, and I Text Roger and was like you know what let's take Christmas. Let's take Christmas. Let's take Christmas ours shut that man up take Christmas from the um the idea when it first got put on the table, we slapped it off the table in large part because we wanted to make advancements in health and safety.

But I think sometimes we touch on this from a union standpoint, we always assume that there are two parties, the union and the league that are of equal power that can have a negotiation. But once I heard 18 games was on the table and 18 games meant more money, I knew at some point the league was going to get it done. Yeah, you got to get that.

Too much money. Because the challenging part about it though is when you talk about adding more money, and it's going to be a lot more money in the salary cap for everybody, which is nice, but it's all going to go to the quarterbacks and into the top level receivers, which is I guess why the NBA ends up with a max salary provision to make sure that the guys who are in the league that are also going to be, in football's case, gonna be taking the brunt of the injuries and hits

and all that for this will get some of that. May I ask you, was there ever any conversation, running backs often find themselves in this very frustrating position because they'll just find a new one in the draft and replace you and the statistical output above replacement at that position, you can find a lot of value.

Was there ever any talk within the players association to have like salary floors for tenured players that excelled at their position? And also, what do you do with a case study like Travis Hunter, who could potentially play two positions, because the league tries to, with the franchise tag, put you in a box. The franchise tag is exhausting for a lot of players.

It helps out some players, but for most of them, it gets in the way. And the idea of, we have this conversation about, a lot about running backs, because the idea of positional value, when you are so good that you're the centerpiece of the offense, like I would argue that Christian McCaffrey at his peak is worth as much as any top receiver because the offense is built around him. To your point, there were a bunch of different proposals made in the union before we would

take them to the league about how to protect salaries for specific groups. A salary floor was never one that was considered because the assumption is, particularly in the running back position, is if you raise a salary floor for a player, you're just going to get them cut. Especially at a position that feels like it's pretty interchangeable. Some of the other things that were entertained more realistically was interchangeable. Some of the other things that were more that were entertained more realistically was creating a separate pool just for quarterbacks because that was always the the scary thing was like all the quarterbacks gonna take all the money and gonna be nothing left for any of us. And that's

the truth and that is how it goes and that's the problem even with the because there's league minimums like if you've been in the league so so long it's like if you're an eight-year and it's the same issue. It's okay, do I pay this eight year veteran to be a fourth, fifth receiver, or do I just get a young guy who is half the price, and maybe not as good, maybe not as seasoned, maybe can't step in as a pinch as a starter, but he can run down on kickoff,

and I'll take whatever the delta is on those two things. That's a lot of the issue, and it's such a system where even the owners like that quarterback is the face of the league because when you get into negotiations, you don't need all 1800 to see it your way. You need the faces that you've pushed and let me keep them happy. And if it's harder for them to fight because they don't want to walk away from 50 to $60 million a year, then we'll always have the leverage we need to push it over the top. If it's harder for them to fight because they don't want to walk away from $50 to $60 million

a year, then we'll always have the leverage we need to push it over the top. Do you see the potential for collusion when it comes to someone like Travis Hunter who plays multiple positions, who can play multiple positions? I know, speaking to a couple of personnel people, the team's like them at one specific position and it kind of feels awfully convenient for the NFL to not have that problem ever a couple of personnel people, the team's like them at one specific position. And it kind of feels awfully convenient for the NFL to not have that problem ever really pop up on their radar. It's the show hay situation where the NFL, there are these events that happen that you

never expect to happen, but so you're not prepared for them. And Travis Hunter, I think, would qualify for one. So I'm not sure how a team would actually handle it if Travis Hunter became a free agent. My assumption is that they're not going to, like, willingly pay him any surplus, even if he's the best corner and the best receiver in the league.

They're gonna use their leverage, they're gonna use their franchise tag, they're gonna use whatever leverage they have, the fifth year option, in order to avoid doing that. It's going to require Travis Hunter. My guess is we're going way into the future. But if Travis Hunter balls out for six years and plays on both sides of the ball,

it's gonna require him to actually sit out. Because what they're gonna do is be like, all right, best case scenario scenario you are the best receiver We'll now pay you because receivers get paid more than corners, so we'll pay you higher hopefully so Continue Sorry did it's broke my heart The reason why I hurt me is because I wanted to disagree But I actually don't disagree disagree by saying what's harder

You know where you're going because I wanted to disagree, but I actually don't disagree. You disagree by saying what's harder though. Yeah, it's harder. It's way harder. You know where you're going. I mean, you know what? Be the teacher. I only know where I'm going if I'm dropping in a zone. Be the teacher's heart too. They don't get compensated.

No one gets compensated for how hard their jobs. They get compensated for how valuable they are. And you know what? I'm sorry. Patrick Surtain, very valuable. Justin Jeffers, more valuable. Selling tickets out there, baby. I hate sorry. Yeah, Patrick Surtain, very valuable. Justin Jeffers, more valuable. Selling tickets out there, baby. I hate it.

Moving units. I hate it when we had that argument about could NFL guys play in the NBA or NBA guys play in NFL. Because I fought the good fight, man. I was fighting hard. I did not fight the fight. I fought the fight because I had to get on a united front and then guys like you were just like,

yeah, no, we ain't graceful enough. I'm like, come on, man. I couldn't. It's all subjective. There's some things that I can bring myself to lie about. If you've ever been around at basketball, I ran into Julius Peppers in Aspen and he played basketball at Carolina.

Can we get a look at me, Leroy, for that? Can we get a Look at Me Leroy for that? Can we get a, you're on the board, so you gotta hit it. Oh, I don't know where to put it, hold on, hold on. We don't gotta get into the whole Look at Me Leroy situation. No, I think we should. Look at me Louie, and there's plenty of black people named Louie, Dan.

If you're listening. Look at me Leroy. And the voice that you use makes it feel a little bit more racist. Did you grab, you grabbed on it. That's a white guy too. Hold on, hold on, you grab? You grabbed it. That's a white guy, too. Hold on.

Hold on. He put some blues in it. That was country. That was a Nashville white dude, man, which is OK. I'm just saying, if you're going to go Leroy to say, this is for black people, you probably got to also diversify your VOs. Get a new voiceover guy.

If it was a black person saying it. There was an executive order that said, we keep the same guy. Oh, that's crazy. See, that's the part. That's what it is. If that was a black person saying it. There was an executive order that said, we keep the same guy. Oh, that's crazy. See, that's the part. That's what it is. If that was a black dude saying it, I wouldn't feel as like, mm, I don't know about this.

And it's not only that it's not a black dude. He trying to feel like he put some pain in his voice. V-Roy. Play it one more time. Let me inspect this. Look at me, Leeroy. Would it be less or more racist if it was hip hop behind it? If it was like, yo, look at me, Leeroy.

And it's just, boom. Would that be less? Like an 80s MC. Yeah. OK. Maybe you're the, ha ha ha ha, baby mama. Look at me, Leroy. All right. From now on, only black guys or black girls on the show can hit, look at me, Leroy.

Dan can't use that. It's a great, we'll use the soundbite, but only Roy or guests that are black can use the, look at me, Leroy. What if there has to be at least two people of African descent in the building? Because that's the part that throws me more than anything is like, when is one dude here and all you whites

It feels like an attack. Is out here like, look at me Leroy. Ha ha, that's funny, high five, high five. Like no. Let's be clear, this was not a collaborative effort to make this specific sound. This was one person's idea. How did this come about?

This was a 4 a.m. email from Dan, saying I want more than just look at me, Louis. Was this an effort to, like, again, for diversity, equity, and inclusion? Yes, he also wanted to look at me, Louise, which. I think it's there, we had a whole list of them there. All right, should I run through all the look? We I don't feel like you should hit certain buttons. I'm gonna be honest. I feel like I'm okay with you going I'm worried. There's gonna be a dog in cultural appropriation

There's a lot going on. I know so many black Louie's that's true. We didn't have to like Lou Armstrong There's so many famous the most famous Lou I mean Louis Armstrong is up there backer act He's up there. I mean yes every black mechanic. I've ever went to his name Lou Farrakhan Who's Lou back? Lou back wrote The car dealership I know Burbank Iraq look at me Did you just?

Did you just make Burt Packer? A Lou Baccarat and like everyone was like, yeah, I guess the creator of the card game, that guy, as you, you made a guy named Lou Baccarat, the most famous of loose. That was the joke to be an obscure one down here. A couple of people in South Florida are like, Oh, that's a good person exists. I don't even know that is I've never Burt Bacharach is a lot of hip-hop I was busy making people uncomfortable. Yeah

I didn't even know where to go with that You know, I just wanted it to sit there I just wanted to sit there. You did it perfectly. I remember last I was down here I was teaching David Sampson how to do a show gosh gosh I love being here with Hawk man. It's so much easier I don't got to teach this man how to react to when someone says something awkward or funny or silly It's like yeah, if you don't know what to do shut up. Yeah, let it sit there because it then becomes funny Why did you say that? Damn good impression. Wow. That didn't help the show Chris. Why'd you do that?

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Don Lebatard, I mean they used to call me Chris karaoke Stugats That back row is bringing it today, this is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugats. Did anyone ever call you Big Red? Go for it. I don't know. I didn't know. It works. You're tallish. Red? Yeah. Red would be your football nickname. Yeah, for sure.

We should go through everyone's football because everyone gets a football nickname when you play early on. Like my son is named Cali because he moved from California. And for three years now, he's just known as Cali. Nevermind that he lived there for like eight months. It don't matter. You know, he's from Ohio for sure, but he's known as Cali to everyone here.

But that's because he lived there for eight months. That's eight months longer than everybody else on the football team. And I don't change it because as a football player who's playing in South Florida, to be known that you came from Cali to South, come on, that's a scholarship way, so I let it rock.

Yeah, it is. Make no mistake, I'm like, yes, we'll take that. I know like hockey nicknames is like you just add a Y to things, right? Yeah, O and S. Really? Yeah, I think so, right? Give me an example, cause I don't,

what is that, like give me a- He be Foxy. Yeah. Foxy, okay. Foxy just bundled a bunch of pigeons. I don't, what does that like? Give me a- He'd be Foxy. Foxy, okay. Foxy just bundled a bunch of pigeons. I don't know what that means. Is that racist? I don't know if I should-

It feels racist. I don't know if it's racist. Absolute yard sale out there with the fellas. Huh? What are you doing? I don't know what any of that means, but I loved it. Foxy. Yeah, I feel like football nicknames,

sometimes you get a little Y action, sometimes you get a, like, the first syllable of your name, but you also, I think we do, like, the distinguishing characteristic. Yeah. It's like, if you're just moved here from Cali, then you're gonna be Cali. Or if you got a big head, you're gonna be Noggin.

Not that deep. Yeah. Nah, it's not. Yeah, no, but I mean, it's deeper than hockey nicknames. Hockey nicknames is lazy. Throw a Y on that thing. Yeah. Nah, it's not. Yeah, no, but I mean, it's deeper than hacky nicknames. Hacky nicknames is lazy. Throw a Y on that thing. Yeah. We gonna, yeah, we gonna give you something else.

But it's also not like politically correct at all. Nah, nah, nah, nah. So you can get into some dicey situations. Yeah, I was looking around this room and all the nicknames that I came up with when I, so. When it first came. Yeah, I'm like. When you got back into football mode,

it was like, okay, I can't say that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. On my mode, it was like, okay, I can't say that. Oh, yeah. On my show, Charlie and I have a rule where you can ask for permission to go back to the 90s. And if permission is granted, You get the full experience. You get to say things, but it's understood that to-

Only for 90 seconds. Yeah, you go back to the 90s. That's a good 90 for 90. 90 for 90, I like that. And so in a text I forgot, I went back to 90s. So I just instituted that I can apply for retroactive 90s partings because I was, oh, Charlie, I know what we should do.

Give it to me. We were bragging, I was, we were bragging about our Uber ratings. And so I was challenging Charlie to put his Uber rating up versus my Uber rating. And so I don't wanna spoil it. You know what we should do? I want everybody to go find your Uber rating.

And I don't tell it, don't yell it out, but I want everyone to find your Uber rating. I do Ubers for groups a lot. Oh, hush up, hush. Whoa, no. Same excuse. Nope, nope, nope. All the points you just got from your impersonation,

you lost. They're gone. OK? Trying to give disclaimers before you pull out your Uber rating. Just pull it out. And control who asks for the aux cord. It's just like eight people there.

One of them's going to ask for the aux cord. It's just like eight people there, one of them's gonna ask for the aux. All right, everybody find your Uber rating, write it down, and I'm gonna do Charlie, I would like you, maybe we'll do it next segment, to guess the order of everyone's Uber rating. So based on what you know about the people in here, I want you to guess the order of the Uber ratings. And I would like also, people at home,

we'll give you some time, next segment. Or at work, wherever you are. I want you to guess too. Hopefully at work. Yeah, I mean, hopefully not. Hopefully not. Hopefully not at work. Yeah, man, look at that.

No, do what you gotta do, baby. Do your thing. I mean, what do people do listening to this show? Do you sit and watch it? Maybe you're, yeah, I hope you're listening at work. That's better than, Right, I mean, I guess I don't know. Make them pay you to listen to these funnies, man.

In a new era of media, does anybody just sit and like my kids will go on YouTube and actually just watch YouTube. Do people do that with this show where they put it on and like full attention, go on YouTube and actually just watch YouTube. Do people do that with this show where they put it on and like full attention, I'm watching this? Or is it like a side screen action? I've heard a lot of people say at places

where YouTube's not blocked on their work computer, they'll like listen to it and sort of have it in the corner of their screen while they're working. A lot of people also say they listen on their way to work or from work. I want some tweets, some tweets of people showing us their setup or telling us what they do while they're listening to the show.

And I also want some tweets of you guys guessing the list. You're gonna get a lot of toilets. Most people say, yes, the toilet. If you send in where you're listening to the show. That's fine. Most common answer. I don't care, I'll be on Twitter. I just want some engagement, baby.

Yeah, that's good. Let it rock. But also, I'll give you the list of names in here if you're not watching so that you can make your own list at home. So it's me, Andrew Hawkins. I'm Dominique Foxer. Andrew Hawkins, you got Chris Cody.

Weird way to introduce yourself. It's me. I mean, I wish. We already did the intros. We did the intros already. I know, we did intros, but like now. Why are you redoing them? I'm not redoing them, I just feel like, okay, it's fine.

They remember? You know what? He's in his ESPN mode. They teach him at ESPN that you just keep repeating. To reset. People just jump in. They don't go back and listen. I think one of our show's biggest flaws

is sometimes we get so swept up in something that everyone is just confused. And sometimes you need to reset, tell everyone what the assignment is. They all don't understand what we're doing. If we're doing this next segment, we can include Lucy, cause she will be joining us. Ooh, include Lucy.

Do we have a look at me Lucy? We should. That would actually make more sense. In this whole. Look at Lucy. You see, there's no gravel. I heard gravel. There's no gravel. That would actually make more sense You see there's no gravel Streeter like that no, I play it again. His name is Andrew self. I just said his name. Maybe I shouldn't have done Yeah, probably not Under the bus. Hold on. I'm a play. I'm a play

Leroy and Lucy again and this will determine whether Andrew took us back to the 90s or nah. Let's see what he did. Look at me Leroy. He tried to make it deeper. He did Leroy. The ending was a little ugh. Yeah. It felt like he wanted us to believe he was the descendant of slaves. He clearly is not. There was a producer in the control room saying

one more time with stank Stank on it You tried to defend my man, but my man brought no pain There was no pain That reminds me so I mentioned that that I saw Pep at Aspen, but on the flight home from Aspen, I was sick. Julius Peppers, we're resetting. Otherwise, I think it's Pep Guardiola.

I saw Pep in Aspen. Coach Pep Hamilton. No one's thinking Pep Hamilton. No? No one's thinking. Very specific to me. Remember when Pep Hamilton got an interview, just like a week ago?

Yeah. He'll pop back up. He'll get back in the cycle. I love another game that we played last time I was here was member win. We got to, at some point later, we got to play member win. It's a great game. I like that.

You just talk about things that happened that you think other people forgot. My man Pep, that was my office coordinator in 2016. He's the OC at Maryland now. There you go. Go Terps. We got some Maryland toppies coming up pretty soon. Also, when I was a kid, we had a...

Stay right there. Don't you go anywhere. Don't you dare. We talk Maryland Terp sports, baby. They were feisty against South Carolina. Hey, so when I was a kid, really quick to put a button on the nickname conversation that just came to me, we had a kid who didn't have a Pinky,

and his nickname was Nubs. And to this day, we call him Nubs. But that's football. Damn, man. So I mean, usually in sports, they go the other way. They might just call him Pinky. I thought they'd call him Pinky, and then they would call you the Brain.

And then you're like, you're kind're kinda short and then it becomes a thing. I love that show. North. Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Which also makes you old for that reference. That's all right. I'm old.

I'm good. I'm fine with it. You can stay here for 90 seconds. We are in the 90s. So I got a few more seconds, and I'll tell you about a nickname that I remember from my childhood. There was a kid in our class in like fourth or fifth grade that couldn't quite control his bladder,

and he peed on himself a lot. And his dad got him a Ninja Turtle watch that had a timer on it to remind him to go to the bathroom all the time. And so, like, from fourth, fifth grade, he peed on himself probably, I don't know, five to 10 times. And so we called him Pee Pee Greg.

That man was called Pee Pee Greg all the way through high school. I don't know where Pee Pee Greg is now, but he, it didn't change, it was Pee Pee. He don't know where PP Gregg is now, but then it changed to just PP. He don't got no P's in his name. He in high school. He asking somebody, asking somebody can he take her to the prom,

and his name is PP. That's crazy. Yeah, that's not a. It's a damn shame, man. It's tough. It's messed up. My college nickname was Matchbox when I got to school because they were like, oh, you're like a little matchbox

So literally everyone just called me matchbox Like that was just my nickname awesome. It's like a right on the nose with it man. Just like number 20 It's fast turned it on guys. Oh man. Could you imagine my fan base? if I just went matchbox 20, that's incredible and then got a NASCAR deal as well and just had a 20 jacket. That's just. It's a hot one.

It'd have been a look at me, Leroy. Yeah. Most famous Lou, are we still playing that game? What you got for it? Lou Alcindor. Oh, well, I mean. That doesn't count. That's the only one that can of course compete with Gary Gary and Gary

Up there. It's all connected though because he also changed his name. Yeah, I was about to say Lu Lewis Lewis Hamilton most famous we can't that's a different. Yeah, that's a different game Lu how dang I heard a dang His name is the wow Nickname Lula, you know know these nicknames of Lou. You gotta call him Lou. You gotta one syllable that thing. Every time.

Lou Will. Yeah, I just thinking of other nicknames from college that I'll tell you during the break. Okay. Matchbox. So that's the thing about the nicknames is Matchbox is a fire ass nickname. It is.

But you can't ask like how'd you get that nickname. I just always say I was fast as hell. Yeah, that's smart. Which kind of was the, you know. That's smart, because it's like. That's why I got it, because I was like, he's so fast. I'm sure they wouldn't call me Matchbox if I was getting strapped.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Waste time getting nicknames. Yeah, you don't get nicknames as freshmen. I got, I had a pretty bad nickname in college too, at first. So like, I was a freshman and I played pretty well as a freshman towards the end of the year. And there was a Jay-Z song out at the time

where they said, little Bumba got A-Rod numbers. So one of my, an older safety started calling me Bumba. And then I learned that this means ass. Yeah, okay. And I was like, no, that's not, I think that it came from a means ass. Yeah, okay. And I was like, no, that's not, I think that it came from a good place. Yeah, yeah. The other nickname that I remember

where I was actually the butt of jokes was one of my first jobs was a camp counselor. And it was like at a residential camp. And they had cabin leaders and counselors. And I was a younger person, I was 14, so I was a younger person. I was 14. So I was a pretty unresponsible counselor. And the cabin leader was like, you know what?

I'm going to call you a cabin leader in training. And I was like, that's tight. I'm responsible cabin leader in training. Then he started calling me by the acronym. That's... Whew. Weather is starting to warm up. Regular season starting to wind down. Games of consequence in sports starting to ramp up. I know what you're going to need by your side. It's by my side already.

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