The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Dead Dog In Zaslow's Kitchen

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

"Dan is 100% right." "What, are you in a contract year?" There's no doubt about it: The U is Beck. That said, without Mike Ryan here, the crew is decidedly less sure about how impressive they've actually been. Also, dog years, the Derrick Henry fumble problem, and Greg Cote's lack of faith in Daniel Jones. Today's cast: Dan, Greg, Zaslow, Chris, Billy, Jeremy, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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but looks to me like an old shirt that just doesn't get worn very often. Zazla, what would you say is the material of that shirt? It's really soft looking. I feel like he looks right out of Boogie Knights, if I'm being honest. It does seem like a shirt out of the 70s. And I think it's terry cloth, the material. It feels like a bath towel. it seems like something that would be very sweaty in South Florida,

given our general humidity. It seems like something. Chris, what do you think that material is? Is it Terrycloth? You know me. I'm great with materials. I'd go, yeah, Terrycloth. You got that Terrycloth? I don't know what it is. Does he know what Terry Cloth is?

Of course I know what Terry Cloth is. Let me see, because I used to work at Juicy Couture, and they seem similar, but one is Terry Cloth and one is Valour, and they're very different. Get in there, Billy. You have a feel. Can it be felt? Nah, there's no way. Well, he's going to try in a second.

Are you saying, can it be touched or is the material felt? It's just a joke. I've been using that joke my whole life. Can it be felt? It does look like the cover of a billiards table. It's closer to burlap. Burlap? That would be rough.

Billy, does it seem to you something like at South Florida humid? It seems like something that will be damp by the end of the show, no? I'm the kind of guy who doesn't sweat. That's an odd statement. To be honest, I mean, I just don't sweat. Or fart. Name the things that will make you sweat. Maybe.

I don't know. I'm not, I don't sweat. That's not possible, Greg. That's how little he's active that he thinks he doesn't sweat. Did you give it up? I did give up sweating. That's nice. Yeah, just like I gave up cigars.

And a year later. Right. I like how you have so much control over your body, and then all of us who don't have the same control. over hours make fun of you for being master of your own body yeah no it is a matter of control like for a while there i was wearing nothing but long sleeve shirts because i didn't like some of the bruise marks bad arm days yeah but but i had to talk uh with my arms i said dudes you're very important to me get together get your act together and it worked like i don't know whether it's psychosomatic or

what, but my arms began to rally around me. Could it be that your dog just stopped jumping on you and scratching your arms? No, he still does that. He still does that. He has gotten better, though. I think that should be a factor here. He's gotten much better. Well, he's three now. You know, he's

no longer a puppy. 21 in human years, or dog years, I guess. It's not the way it works, man. Coming into his own. It's not just take the dog's year and multiply by seven. I hate dog years. That's not the way it works. I'm sorry. Are you a vet? No, I'm just a person. Not UF.

UF has a veterinary school. Are you a vet? I have multiple dogs. I have multiple dogs too. Really? You don't just multiply it by two? I have two also. How many dogs you had die?

This is a contest of how many dogs have died? Yeah. I had one die. I've had three die. And cats. The cats I bury in the backyard. The dogs, we just let the vet take care of that. Really?

Yeah. Do you get like the rock with their name on it and the ashes? Or you just kind of forget them as soon as you leave? No. Put it in somewhere in my bedroom. Back, you know, you have no idea where. Is that so? I got the paw print, you know, in the clay.

What'd you do with it? Why are you laughing at that? What'd you do with it? It's in my kitchen. You have a dead dog in your kitchen? No, I get the paw print in like the mold. You have dog ashes in your kitchen. In your counter?

Who said ashes? Puddin with an apostrophe? It's not the name of the dog was pudding. Yeah, P-U-D-D-I-N-A-Postrophe. What a cat name, huh? P-N-U-D-N-A-P-D-N-U-P-D-N. But that was Erlaine's cat before. Why do the cats get a ritual, but the dogs just get shipped off to the vet and the incinerator?

I guess size, you know, if I'm burying a 60-pound dog in the backyard, that's like an excavation. How much does Charlie weigh? 95. Really? He's a big dog. When did Charlie get that big? He grew. I know he's bad.

I don't know if he weighs that much. He does. Trust me. Now he's got to be called Charles. This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stucats podcast. Greg Cody of the Miami Herald is coming here with a new old shirt, the material of bath towels. And he is claiming that FSU has not played anyone, even though FSU has swamped Alabama. And it ignores that Miami hasn't played anyone either.

Well, Miami played Notre Dame. Right. One and two, Notre Dame, and Miami did less against Notre Dame offensively than even Purdue did. They played an 18th ranked USF, 18th ranked at the time. And then they had a nice win over Florida. You can say Florida is not that good, but it's still a traditional rival that had a chance. But why has FSU played nobody, but Miami has? Because FSU opened against Alabama, which everybody thought would be a tough opener. After that game, let's not retrofit, okay?

After the FSU Alabama game, we're all burying Alabama. We're firing the coach. We're saying, bring back Sabin. Alabama's done. The era has officially ended. And now all of a sudden we're saying, eh, they're not that bad. No. When they played Alabama, Alabama was pretty bad.

Then they played two cupcakes in a row. actually at Virginia in their next game I think has a chance to be a test for FSU they're only favored by a touchdown if they beat Virginia handily I'll be a little bit impressed I think it's fair to say that Miami hasn't played anybody either I think that's fair to say because Notre Dame's shown you nothing Florida's shown you nothing and you're supposed to beat South Florida they're the fifth best team in the state so FSU winning against the team that they the impressive win that they have when they beat Alabama, it doesn't impress you. But if they beat Virginia this week, that will really show you something. Yeah, in a way, in a way. Yeah, sure. Because, you know, now everybody's got film. When you play an opening game, it's sort of a crapshoot.

Okay. You know, now... Wouldn't that make it harder to win? In a season opener? Yes. Eh, not necessarily. I think it is fair to say that what you have seen from Miami so far this year has come against opponents that haven't shown you much.

of anything against anybody because South Florida's big win was against the other team that's not impressive, which is Florida. South Florida kicked the shit out of Boise. That's not nothing. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. And Florida's got a great defense, and Notre Dame at the time, you know,

championship game last year, I mean, Notre Dame coming in of a big, big season. Notre Dame was favored at Miami? Greg. Miami's offense against Notre Dame made it seem like Notre Dame had a good defense, and Notre Dame does not have a good defense. A&M scored 41 on them. And Purdue scored on them too. Notre Dame's

defense has shown you nothing so far this season. And Miami was less impressive against Notre Dame. Miami's offense hasn't shown you much this year. Like they, they were good against South Florida. They didn't show you much against Florida and against Notre Dame. Like we're doing some eye test stuff here where, oh, they look bigger, stronger, and faster. But it hasn't produced offensive results that you're like, wow, they make a lot of big plays. That's not a big. play offense. It hasn't been so far this season. They scored 26 points against one of the best defenses in the country. If you think they're going to score 60 points every game, you're heading the class. Greg, Greg, they scored 26 points, but they scored 26 points, at least in part because

Florida's offense was so bad. Like, they should have scored 50 points, given where they were starting with field's position some of the time, especially in the first half. The fact that that that game was 13-0 at the half, given that Florida did nothing but have three and outs the entire time. I can sit here and make a good argument that Miami's opponents haven't shown you much this season. Okay, I think most people, dare say most people except you, were very impressed with the way Miami beat Florida. I was, the poll voters were who moved them up four to two. It's the same way that LSU beat Florida, and I think it's fair to say now, given what we've seen from Clemson, we have no idea how good LSU is either.

LSU's that good. Miami's in a weird spot where they don't have a dominant offense, but they have dominant drives within these games where you're like, oh, wow, Miami can move the ball against really anybody in the country, and it's like 10 play drives and in a touch. Well, I think that's what Chris Will wants to play. Like, he wants to pound the ball on the ground. I think that's how he wants to play.

I mean, this is not the Cam Ward off, the flawed Cam Ward team from last year where maybe they're going to win a game 3835 if they can launch a big comeback. this is a better all-run team. It's a more balanced team offensively. They run the ball, they eat the clock, they play defense. I mean, a 26-7 win over Florida is impressive. Greg, here's why it's not impressive. Carson Beck, 0-4-6 on passes longer than 10 yards, more than half of his completions, nine behind the line of scrimmage, 160 passing yards, the fewest he's ever had in a game that he's started and finished in his career. Whether it was terrible. Yeah, agreed. but those are bad stats like that that that's not showing you much you you would agree that so far this season their offense has not shown you very much they are they are strong they're a physically strong team that part's obvious their their offense is physically strong but you

have not gotten the kind of play and I don't want this to sound like criticism I'm just saying if you're going to file the criticism against fSU you can also file it against miami FSU did beat Alabama. While you might not think that Alabama is any good, Notre Dame has shown you nothing this season. Carson Bank had the worst game of the season for him. The worst game he'll have all season, I believe. You don't know that.

And yet they won handily over a very good defense. That's a game they lose last year. If Cam Ward has that kind of game last year, they don't beat anybody. This year, despite their quarterback having a terrible game, really, really bad. They ran the ball. They played defense.

Their offensive line dominated, and they dominated. They had a chance to win that game, and they did. I mean, it's not like they've gone out there one of these games and scored 16 or set. Like, the 26th they scored against Gators was their lowest output so far of the season. I mean, and they scored 27 against Notre Dame. I get it, A&M put up 41 against them, but 27's not nothing. I mean, and I would say, I think we could probably agree that Carson's, and Beck is going to be better moving forward than he was last week.

Like, I think he can't be worse. Right, and they still scored 26, you know? I agree. I don't want to put down what the Keynes have done so far with their resume. I like the Keynes resume so far, but I will add, they haven't played a single road game yet, and they don't even leave the state until November. Yes, that's fair. That's important to point out.

So is it you back or not? I don't understand. I'm not sure. Somewhat. Somewhat. You can't halfway. It's like you're in or you're out. Are they back?

They're definitely Beck. Jeremy, oh, my God. The U is Beck. I like it. Thank you. Put that out of. The U is Beck. I do think we can meet in the middle here and agree that UM at FSU is the biggest test yet for both teams.

Let's just agree on that because it is. Agreed. As Zez says, they haven't played on the road yet. That in and of itself is a big test. Jeremy, what kind of objections did you have? Because this tone is very different from yesterday's tone when I, I feel like we all anointed the University of Miami the championship yesterday. We spent seven minutes on this show yesterday talking about Mario Cristobal's confidence

in the way that he's walking around. I mean, are you kidding me? Did you not hear him interviewed this weekend? He looks thin, by the way, Dan. The praise for this team finally winning the game they haven't won for 20 years. That's what this is. This is, oh, Miami has lost this game for 20 years. So now that they finally won one.

And we don't, you don't give them credit. Oh, my God. Congratulations for scoring two of your touchdowns in the final couple of minutes to make that game look like a bigger blowout than it was against a Florida team that's not going to make a bowl game and was out without four defensive linemen. Like they have a very good defense. They're going to play good defense all year. They're also probably going to win four football games. I love how you're like, and you score two touchdowns late. It's like, yeah, you scored two touchdown. Yeah, but we're going to talk about like it's a blowout.

It wasn't a blowout. It was 13 to 7 until there were four minutes. two touchdowns don't matter. Of course they matter. Like what is that? What are we doing here? We're doing 26 points as if it was like this easy thing and then they were coasting at the end.

All I'm trying to say is I was told last week that Carson Beck is better than Cam Ward potentially and I have not seen anything like that. I don't think anybody told them. I went back and listened to the show. They just said that Cam Ward would have lost that game also. Yeah, they said that to you. And I went back and listen to the show on, I believe it was August 21st. I was told that Carson Beck.

had a better fall camp than Cam Ward did, which, of course, was a rhetorical trick, as Mike Ryan pointed out. And then last week, Dan said, Mike's saying that Carson Beck is better than Cam Ward. And you know who got no pushback? Dan, from Mike, because that's what you guys believed

after beating a U.S.F team that built up their credibility against a bad UF team. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Not you guys. I've been making fun of Mike for that take for two weeks because he has been saying

that he thinks that Carson Beck is going to be better than Cam Ward. and has been better than Cam Ward. And I believe that this offensive line is better than the one that Cam Ward had. And although Cam Ward had Restrepo, I believe that this team has more wide receiver options, although Florida covered them up. FSU is averaging 58 points per game. I know they aren't playing anybody.

But their offense and Castellanos, they look like Miami. looks. They looked against Alabama. And it's confusing to me because they went from 13 and 1 to 2 and 10, which is something I've never seen in the history of the sport. Well, they lost their quarterback. Yeah, but I still have a lot of teams lose their quarterback every year. And I've never seen that happen to a team before where they go 13 and 1 and then they go to 2 and 10 where in that sport. Who the hell is 2 and 10 when you're one of the major? And when they won 13 games, they lost the ballgame by 60. Yeah, that was and because they lost their quarterback as, as Billy mentioned. But they also, I mean, they put up 77 against East Texas A&M and 66 against Kent State. Howdy, folks, it's Mike Ryan, and I know it's early in the NFL season, but it has shown you exactly why the NFL is indeed King's Sport in the United States of America. Great games. Incredible matchups. In-demand tickets for these high-profile games, sometimes, oftentimes. These games are sold out, and you're left with the secondary market.

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I need way more. I'm sorry. I just said in his headset, haven't you been to all of them too? It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100% on me. All right.

Stugats. But that goes without saying. Right. That it couldn't have. Well, now he said it. He didn't. He didn't say it. He said it again.

Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg.

Yeah. Greg. Greg. Greg. He apologized. Craig. Cincerely. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.

even if you want to doubt the Kane's resume so far okay Ohio State's number one which makes sense defending national champion they won at home against Texas who should be ahead of Miami right now Penn State has played nobody LSU they beat the same Florida team and they beat a Clemson team that's definitely not any good Georgia maybe you want to say something nice about Georgia

because they won at Tennessee okay fine Oregon's played nobody like who should be ahead of Miami That's a good point by Zaz because while I can sit there and knocked down, and I can, all three of Miami's opponents, because how many losses are there on that? You've got three teams. Notre Dame's got two losses. Florida has two losses. Three losses. Three losses. Excuse me. Three losses. And South Florida beat Florida, and both of them can't lose the game. Somebody's got a win. They could tie, but that's not. So you got one loss. You've got three teams they play that have six. Can you tie in college? Maybe you can't.

Yeah, but the number one team in the country at the time beat the number one team in the country. So that's a bigger win than any of Miami's wins. You can't tie, actually, in college. No, no ties. They'll play 400. They'll play 400 over time. There will be no ties in college. I want to let Zaz marinate in his error.

I just realized that. But what he's saying is correct because nobody has played anybody just yet and because you guys aren't sure who's actually good. you only have the choice right now. The only team that would have an impressive win is the one that beat Ohio State. Are we an agreement on that? It's not possible to have – given that we thought Alabama was going to be better than that, I suppose Florida State could make the argument that they should be ranked ahead of Miami. Oh, please.

They can make the argument. No, they beat Texas. It would be a bad argument. They're eight for a reason. They're eight for a reason. And let me give you a bulletin here. Now, the FSU game at Virginia obviously will shape what I'm about to say. Right now, though, Miami will be favored in Tallahassee.

Yeah, yeah, you think so? They will be favored. Yes, probably by two and a half, it would be my early guess. But mark my words. I'll take bets on that. I'm on Malcolm. I mean, the reality is this Florida State is ranked eighth because they started the year unranked. Miami started the year highly ranked.

And so when they continue to win against teams of repute, because the voters don't know anything, that's why USF was 18 after one. win. I think you're wrong. I think USF's good. Like, USF is one of the better group of five teams. Yeah, they're fine. Like, good. Let's give the group of five credit now. Like, that's not what you're going to do in the long term. Ultimately, they might, they might be the group of five representative. But the, the resume that they've built up thus far is beating Boise State, another group of five team that was, is of high repute, mostly based off the reputation that they have from a Statue of Liberty play 18 years ago. Well, I mean, they're ranked again. Are they,

No, they're not ranked again yet. No, they're not. But they also haven't. Look, USF wins at an SEC team. It's a good win. It's a good win. I understand that, but that same SEC team is going to lose like eight games. And did we talk about Vanderbilt when they were winning three games?

He's already lost three. He's got them with four wins this season. If we're going to have a haven't played anybody off. Maybe you're right. It's Penn State. It's everybody. No. But this week.

They've played FIU, Nevada, and Villanova. And Billy claims, FBI you look good. They did. It's good. I just realized that we could basically say of all of the unbeaten dead animals in his kitchen, he's lecturing me. That was where. We're still worried about that. Every team in the sport that has a winning record, we could say they haven't beaten anybody. That's right. Ohio State beat the number one team in the country. Well, this year, look, Ohio State is number one, period. There's really no argument. And then it's like a, it could be a five or eight team. tie for second. Anybody

in the top 10 almost, especially the top 8, could make an argument well, we should be set. I assume that Texas is good, but go ahead and prove it. Go ahead and look at their schedule and prove it to me. They can only play the games that are on their schedule, Dan. And they lost to the now number one team

in the country by a touchdown. What would you like them to do to prove it to you? Have we mentioned Texas A&M? Because they have a win at Notre Dame, but we don't know if they're good. At one and two Notre Dame. Yeah, it's a good trick. It's a good trick to play that basically anyone you say to me has a good win,

you're only doing it based on how the voters rank them before the season. So why have we spent 25 minutes talking about rankings if none of it matters? If U.S. wins, doesn't matter who U.M. beats and Ohio State doesn't matter in Texas, then why do we spend 25 minutes talking about it? U.M. should be ranked number two. I just think that ultimately anointing them. No, I think anointing them after a win over Florida as if that is so. some sort of statement of epic proportion.

Like this team is going to be a national champion because they can go on the road and beat a gator team that just lost to USF in that same stadium. You rather they played Kent State. I got you. I got you. I got it. I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying that when we let Mike give a acceptance speech in which he's thanking the SID at the university because of a win over the Gators, I think maybe we're letting things go a little too far. It's at the same time. We're insiduating. We didn't talk enough about U.M. And I know I'm a coward for doing this when Mike's not here, but I would do it to his face. I have.

I mean, Mike does his thing on Monday. Then you come in on Tuesday when he's not here and you talk your crap to him. If you really want to talk about Wednesday when you're not here and he talks his crap to you. And then finally Thursday, we've got the two of you talking to each other. Hey, look, man, UCF is in better scoring offense and scoring defense. That's all I'm saying. You know what? Cam Gorby, the SID, he does do a hell of a job. He does.

He really does. Moving on to last night's football game, Baltimore and the Detroit. I wanted to ask the group of you a question on something because the changes in this sport have been really interesting. I remember Aaron Rogers came on with us and claimed, and I don't know that we could refute it, that he invented the quarterback who doesn't turn the ball over a lot. He, that he invented once upon a time, Greg, you can speak to this. Dan Fouts was considered a great quarterback who would often throw five interceptions in a game. And the way the sport has changed has put such a premium on don't turn the ball over that you've got a lot of quarterbacks all over the league, whether it's Jalen Hertz or Kyler Murray, who are thrown for 150 yards because it's just like nothing is more important in that league than don't turn the ball over. So now Derek Henry has three fumbles in three games. He never fumbles.

And I don't think that's the way he's going to age. We've seen no proof of him aging. He seems like the closest thing in that sport to a superhero. But the position is disposable. What's his contract, Tony? I think he signed there for $10 million a year because he was available to everybody. And what I wanted to ask you, because the sport has gotten so good at individual metrics and measurements, and the turnovers are at such a premium.

How many turnovers does a Derek Henry have to have that it dilutes his efforts? excellence because the way that we're measuring these guys, if you turn the ball over, it's such a catastrophe that you end up undoing some of the good work you do where we can claim that Derek Henry's turnovers are now responsible for the Ravens. We believe they're a good team, even though their defense has given up as many points as the Dolphins. Like their defense gives up way too many points, but we can make the claim that Derek Henry is responsible for losing a couple of games because you cannot turn the ball over in that sport. So what How many do I have to give you before you say,

hmm, that's undoing the good work. That's a net negative at a position that's disposable in the entire league, even though on that team it's pretty important because their running game makes everything happen. Yeah, and Derek, the timing of his fumble loss last night was the turning point of the game. I think throughout the NFL, there's a lot of RB-1s who get benched if they fumble and lose three times in three games. Derek Henry's not one of them. Okay, you ride him all season long. Now, if it gets to the point where at mid-season, he's got five, six fumbles,

maybe you're reconsider, but right now, you don't even think. He's got as many fumbles in three games as he had all of last season. This is not a human being who fumbles the ball. Right. Two years, 30 million you just sign an extension in May. What's the answer to my question, though, on given that the sport, we will agree on every coach in the league will now tell you that the most important, thing. It's not even making plays. It's don't make plays for the other guys. The protection

of the football is at a premium we have simply never seen, and it's part of the reason. Nobody throws the ball down field anymore. It's all these five and ten yarn button hooks all over the field because they want to be super cautious. What's the answer to my question on how many turnovers does it have to be that you're diluting Derek Henry as value? I think when if he continues to have the performance that he had the last couple of weeks, where last week he ran for like 20 yards total, and this week he only ran for 50 yards total. You know, at least in the first game of the season, right?

Yeah, 10 yards of carry. Yeah, like he had 100-some-odd yards and it was a fluke play. You'll live with it. But last night, you only have 50 yards to carry and 50 yards of the game, and he scored a touchdown on like a 30-yard run. He really didn't do very much yesterday. But Baltimore has much bigger problems than Derek Henry. Their defense has been one of the disappointments in the league.

Their offensive line last night was awful. They gave up like seven sacks. The Detroit manhandled them. They really did. Detroit's offensive line was fantastic. Which is annoying because they've just replaced these two guards. We've been trying to get a guard for 15 years down here in Miami. And they're like, oh, we had some people leave our offensive line.

They replaced those guards, and it looks like a well-oiled machine. So annoying. That was the difference in that game last night for me is that one offensive line was great and the other was terrible. And that's one of the reasons why I think the University of Miami is not a good team but a great one. because they're great on the offensive line and the defensive line. The Big Dog was saying that the UM offense line could be better than the Dolphins right now.

Billy, why are you laughing at what just happened there? Just the big dog was saying. You were listening on the way into Joe Rose, were you? Tell us more about what the big dog was saying. Well, it was him and Omar Kelly talking about Omar's love life. And then we got into the offensive line. Right now he's focusing on himself and being a good dad. All right, that's great.

He said it on air. I mean, I feel like I can share. You go, Omar. Don Lebatard. My wife says this is a sexy voice. It really is. Yeah. I'm hard.

Thank you. Wow. Stugats. So am I, actually. I don't know why. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. The Detroits. The Detroit Lions have one of the two best offensive lines in the league and have

have had it for three years. They've made Man Campbell look like a genius, even though Man Campbell is not a genius. My thought the entire game last night relative to Detroit was I just couldn't stop thinking, how the hell did they look the way they did week one against Green Bay's defense is really good. And I do believe that if I put Detroit on the road outside of a dome, that they can look like that. I don't. What Green Bay's defense has shown us this year is that it is absolutely elite. I know that yesterday was a – or Sunday was a surprise that they lost at Cleveland. But they weren't able to get after Jordan Love the way they got after Lomont.

What, they have eight sacks last night? Yeah, it was insane. And to the Packers point, it's like, yeah, the defense was great, but then you let Joe Flacco, who had like 140 yards in a pick, score 13 points in three minutes and 38 seconds to end your game. It's like – they love losing these weird – spots. Their defense has been bad this year. I'll say it again. They've given up as many points as the dolphins, and I believe the dolphins to have a historically bad defense. I believe that the dolphins are going to look like that on defense most of the year against most

teams that aren't the Jets. Next week, one and two Chiefs against one and two ratings. What kind of game is this, Zaz? Is this a... If we were doing big game or not a big game right now, I'm not going to give me spoilers. But if we were doing big game or not a big game right now? It's a big game. We're not doing that though. We're not though. I'm not giving away any spoilers right now, but that would be a big game. One of the many things that confuses me about that sport is how it is that defense doesn't translate from one year to the other. They were the Ravens second league-wide. What you have happening, they've allowed as many points as the dolphins. Okay, that's a lunacy, correct? You guys are in agreement on that. We are

After the first week of the season, we all thought that the Ravens were among the best teams in the league. You guys, as we sit here today, you haven't had your faith shaken in Green Bay being one of the good teams in the league, correct? You just thought football happened on Sunday. The Browns did something because they've got an elite defense as well that is just football happening in a home game. Jordan made a really bad decision. That's what happened. But we have, if I asked you guys for a number of good teams in the NFL that you know we're good, what's the number? Is it seven?

Is it six? Because the Rams are going to be in there. The Eagles are going to be in there. But that you know we're good. Do we know Indy's good? I feel like we, I feel like, I think they're good. This is the test. I don't think we know yet.

Rams and Indy. Match up. Okay. So let me talk about this for a second because when you talk about Derek Henry fumbling and it being unusual. In my lifetime, you tell me if you guys have other examples. I get six teams. I know we're good. Do you guys have other examples? Tiki Barber is someone who corrected a fumbling problem.

Josh Allen corrected a turnover problem. I generally think of those things as not correctable. Derek Henry is not a fumbler, and I don't think any of us would allege that that's how a running back age is where he suddenly starts to fumble. Do you guys have any other examples of somebody who can simply eliminate the fact that they turn the ball over? Because it seems to me that more than ever in the league, if on offense it's a premium that you cannot turn the ball over, on defense, it's a premium that you must.

And more guys are punching at the football than we've ever seen. That's not up for dispute, correct? There's guys throwing haymakers and just hitting the football is not something that's ever. happened as much as it's happening right now in today's game. They are going to change that rule. They are going to take that out of the game. Why? You can't just, because what if you miss the football?

You're just allowed to punch players? How many times did they miss the football? Nobody cares. But this is why that they're going to start, A, because it's causing a ton of fumbles, and you can't just throw haymakers during the game at players. It's a crazy thing if you miss and you just give a left hook to a guy?

It's one of the most accurate things in the sport when it's done properly, right? Somebody's diving to the goal line and then all of a sudden, landman comes out of nowhere, pow! Yeah, but Zaz is right. If you eliminate the punch, then all of a sudden you've eliminated the violence in that sport. What else does he want, man? What does he want to take it out of the game, huh?

The fumble should happen in the course of a tackle. Last year, the Ravens' defense was second league-wide in rushing success rate. This year, they're at last. I don't get that. Do you guys have an explanation for me? Does anyone have an explanation for me? My only explanation would be

three games. And the first one was a bit of a fluke. But I am still surprised by seeing Detroit running up and down the field outdoors on the road when I saw what they look like against Green Bay. And I believe that the way to beat Detroit, because they are very physical up front on both sides. Like you've got some stats from last night's game that we have not seen before. The Lions are the only team in the Super Bowl era to have a game with seven plus sacks, rushing TTs, zero turnover, zero sacks allowed. That's exactly the kind of team that you want to travel with on the road, that you want to play in the snow on the road with,

but I don't think any of you believe in Jared Goff on the road. You all think that game against Green Bay can happen to Detroit on the road against a good defense. And I thought this was a set-up spot where it's like, oh, Jared Gott, they kind of figured things out against the bears. This is a normal spot for Jared Goff to go like 17 for 30, a buck 82 and two picks. I got 12 good teams.

No way. What? I have seven. You want to hear him? Yeah, go ahead. Tell me who's not a good team here. Rams. Good team.

49ers. Not good team. That's a good team. Three and O. Mac Jones keeping everybody. They're injured. That's a good team. Beat the Cardinals 16, 15.

Yeah, but that one's tough just because they're three. Well, USF beat the Gators 1816, right? No Niners. They're three and oh. If you make one more UCF point during this show, today, I'm going to ban you from the building. I wasn't a UCF point.

It was not just, but we can hear your, like, it's all through the UCF. Why, just because I'm wearing a Citranot shirt? It's all in there. I'm going to keep going. That's two. The Bucks. Wait a minute. That's not two because San Francisco.

We're split on San Francisco. I think some people agree. In this condition, it's a good organization. It's a winning organization. But in this condition, they are so hurt that I don't believe that people expect them to just continue to win. Next two, Bucks Packers. Okay.

Okay. Good teams. And then we got lions, eagles, commanders. Well, but, I mean. With Jane Daniels? And then Chargers, Chiefs, Ravens Bills. Chiefs. That's 11.

Chiefs, come on. Chiefs are good. Chiefs are nice. No, I don't think they're good. They're half good. Listen to Juju yesterday. Dan's doing this thing. Like, be careful, guys.

Dan's always been right. Dan's been right 100%. They're going to get Rish Rice back and you guys are going to look dumb dumb. Talk about Rish Rice like he's Jerry Rice. Billy, what are you, And then the Vikings were the last thing. You think Tony's in a contract year. They're sucking up for summer.

Dan's right 100% of the time. No, I didn't say 100% of the time. I said 100% on the Chief's take. We've been talking about it for three weeks already. Their offense hasn't been the same. And everybody keeps telling you, no, just wait. It's going to happen. No, it's not going to happen.

They haven't been good. It's weird. What's happening with the Chiefs is super weird in terms of we will not be convinced that it's a lesser offense, even with about two years of proof on it. Of a lesser offense. What being grandfathered in there is you simply can't erase how good Patrick Mahomes has been and how much hyperventilation from all the announcers it's been so that you can't, there are no amount of facts that I can put in front of people

that are going to change their mind on this. Where do we land on the Vikings? No, no. All right, well, defense. You guys at least, all right, let's say I took out the 49ers and the Vikings. That's still 10 good teams. You guys said six before. There was a couple in there, the two that we were a little question about.

I'm taking out commanders. I think you have to put parameters on what we mean by good teams. For me, you don't mean teams that look pretty good right now. You mean teams that two months from now we think of as Super Bowl contenders. No, I don't think that's what we're talking about. Okay, I think that's what we should be talking about, okay? If anybody is saying Indianapolis Colts have a chance to win the Super Bowl, you're being delusional. Okay, the Buffalo Bills are up there.

Baltimore, I would still put up there. The Chargers deserve to be there. But why are you being delusional on the Colts? Because the point I was starting to make with Tiki Barber and with Josh Allen is that Daniel Jones, through three games, the way they're having him play, seems to have corrected a turnover problem. And the reason I was asking you, do you guys know of people throughout the history of the sport who have corrected that issue? because Daniel Jones used to play in a panicked way out of desperation because of the way that the Giants structured everything around. But they played two bad teams in the Dolphins and the Titans.

The Broncos is a game that they almost lost, but they've played too bad. The Dolphins defense is atrocious. Yeah, but they've murdered those two bad teams. Okay, but the turnovers is because he's been playing against two bad teams. Those will come when he's playing good teams. Like this will come back down to the norm. Tony's right, like this week, at Rams.

I mean, that's a who's who. Daniel Jones will have the four-pick game where the entire country in unison, like a chorus, goes, he's back. Don't trust Daniel Jones yet. Come on. It's a who's-who game. I mean, it's something.

I mean, it is. Well, which is it? Make a decision. It can't be, it's either a who's who-s-who game or it's something. Is it a what's-what game? Is it a who's-who game or is it something? We know the Rams are a who, so it can't be a who's-hoo game. Big game or not a big game.

It's a what's what? Wait a minute. Tony, you can't. Tony has just put in front of Zaz the most important of questions. Zaz is going to make a ruling. He is a judge. He's a lawyer. He's not a vet.

We learned that earlier. He is not a vet. But I do know how dogs age. I mean, you have plenty of dead dogs, I get it. You're going to get, that was interesting to see Greg Cody go over the top of both of you on he's had more dead pets than the rest of you. I've had longer two old pets. How can we only do the years thing with dogs? though. Like, we don't do cats in

cat ears and stuff like that. It's just, for a cat, we're like you're eight, you're nine, you're ten, but a dog it's like, he's 33 in dog ears. Yeah, we could do that with all animals. Stupid. Yeah. I mean, a lion... Always hated dog ears. A lion lives to be 10 in the wild and

15 to 18 in captivity. So what do we do there? Hold on a second. Do people actually ask you how old your dog is and you're like he's 36? People do dog ears. It's a thing. I'm with you. I hate it. Dog ears is a thing. How old your dog? Oh, he's 28 in dog ears? No one says that.

Nobody says that. I say my dog is three and a half. I don't say he's going on 21. He's getting old. He's 70. Wait, so I made up dog ears? No, you didn't make up dog ears. What are you guys doing to me?

But nobody calls their dog. Everyone's looking at me right now like, Chris, you're an idiot. It's like, this is a big dog ears. We don't do cat ears. That's not something that we do. I assume that's because they have nine lives. I don't know why we don't know why we don't do cat ears. Why do we only do that?

Thank you, Billy, for always supporting. I was trying to hit the laugh button, but I'm not there. I can't hit, you know. What am I supposed to do? Can you guys explain to me if there's a coach in the league that you think? We were in the middle of big game, not a big game. Yeah, Dan, what are we doing? Sorry.

Come on. Colts and Rams. I'm not going to give you a spoiler here. All right. But if Colton Rams were playing right now, that'd be a big game. We don't have any imaging. We don't have anything. have anything to support big game.

Likelihood, Rams win big. Extraordinary. So you're done. You say... What was that? You don't believe in the Colts. Pat McAfee says every year that the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl. He's the only one saying it. And you're saying

that the Rams are going to throttle the Colts. Yeah, I don't think the Colts defense is great. I think it's pretty good, better than usual. I think Jonathan Taylor is off to a great start. but I think Daniel Jones is going to be Daniel Jones and I think the Rams are going to make them look like that. I just do.

I could be wrong. Maybe a couple of months from now the Colts are 8 and 1 and then I'm eating my words. But right now I don't trust their 3-0 start. You say that there are two bad teams and you are right that they have played, the Colts have played two bad teams, but still there are a lot of bad teams in the league as we just surmised and only one of the good teams has had 19.

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