The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Disgruntled Off Between Jimmy Butler And Tyreek Hill

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

Greg Cote is BACK after he missed Tuesday’s show (OUT - Illness), and that sickness has him looking haunted today. He weighs in on the Jimmy Butler drama with the Miami Heat to start the show as Dan tries his best to promote today’s upcoming South Beach Sessions with Pat Riley despite it being taped six weeks ago. Greg then gives his thoughts on Tyreek Hill and The Disgruntled Off™️ unfolding in Miami between Tyreek and Jimmy. Which word came first: gruntled or disgruntled? Plus, James Franklin may be about to make us all eat it, Lucy hung out with Ricky Williams, and Greg Cote thinks eyebrows are useless. Today’s cast: Dan, Amin, Greg Cote, Chris, Jeremy, Lucy, Mike, and Roy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. Greg, I'm going to do the rare thing of asking you to take your headsets off. You're ready to go, but I'm a little worried about today, Amin, because Greg Cody is sick. And I don't think he looks good. I don't think he sounds good. He's coughing. It brought back an earlier time

at the beginning of the pandemic. I'm feeling a bit haunted. Greg, to me right now, looks physically haunting in a way that reminded me of the... And he sounds it. He sounds bad. He sounds, this is not good. looks physically haunting in a way that reminded me of that. He sounds, he sounds bad. He sounds, this is not good. Vincent Price.

I'm giving you my all. I appreciate it, and I don't mean to mock this, but I actually had the exchange with Greg when I walked in where his son is asking him, have you been in makeup? And he says yes, and I had open mouth shock because I'm like did they embalm him like they I don't I don't know what happened here but he looks pale and and he's giving off haunted and when he laughs he coughs and

when he coughs he laughs so we're in for one today it's all I'm saying yeah yeah my voice is not my own I in the voice I hear in my ear sounds several octaves lower, and I don't know what to do about it. Can we agree that sick voice is a very cool voice? Why would the headphones being off help? It is a sexy voice. Well, I wanted, because I wanted Louis, I told him right before we started,

I said, Louis, make sure to get his hair, do a close up. I want a close up on his hair, because he doesn't look like he's been in hair and makeup. Does he? Unless there are things happening in hair and makeup here, like in Fox Sports. Oh, oh! Cheap shot.

Closer, at least. The sexy sick voice, right? We all wish we could have that voice all the time. Yeah, maybe. Put it on the poll, do you love your sick voice I don't believe that that is actually a thing it's a thing all right well okay we'll get to all of this in a second because it's a Greg Cody Thursday and I am actually thrilled you can put your headsets back on thank you Greg I am

actually thrilled that he's in with us I don't know how medicated he is but he seems a little off and that's always good when Greg Cody's a little off How can you tell? I'm a little medicated. Okay, excellent We'll take this wherever it ends up the thing that I have attention with though that is problematic is and Lucy I'm sorry for this when I started in sports radio One of our initial influences, the people who created this radio show,

was that in South Florida, there was a Neil Rogers on the sports station, and he was making fun of the sports station and what the sports station was doing. And at the time, it was because it's the only other time in South Florida sports history that we've had in front of us what we presently have. Back then, it was Dan Marino and jimmy johnson so it became

a bit that anytime you turned on your radio all you heard was jimmy and danny and danny and jimmy and jimmy and danny and now it's jimmy and riley and riley and jimmy and riley and jimmy and riley and it's because nothing like this has been in this town before in the thing that i want to ask because i've got attention i know greg cody has a ton of opinions i know the show has a ton of opinions there hasn't been anything like this in south florida where

the power of pat rightly buts heads with shack and shackle loses in shacks like security is here and shack you leave like that's not we're not doing it your way shack get out of here if you want trying practice you can go wade at the end the things that gilbert arenas is criticizing him rightly shouldn't be in

charge of his rally thinks he's in charge of his rallies always been in charge but now what's right in front of you i'm sure greg c Cody has a million opinions on. I am sure that Jeremy right now is gathering a round table of millions of people to put on somewhere on this show,

Jimmy and Riley, and Riley and Jimmy, and Riley and Jimmy. The thing I wanted to ask the group before we get to Greg Cody's Thursday takes that he wanted to give Tuesday, that he wanted to give five days ago, but he's been too sick to do it. We've got a South Beach session today coming out with Pat Riley, but it was done six weeks

ago. Good timing. The least timely South Beach sessions in history. Or perhaps the most timely. Yeah, except you don't, unless you are particularly prescient with your questions, you don't ask Pat Riley about the one thing that people would want him to talk about.

But I bet it's a great SBS. But Pat Riley usually takes any opportunity in front of a microphone to say something that you can take out of context. That's true, that is true. So, do you think, and let me get out in front of a microphone to say something that you can take out of context. That is true. So, do you think, and let me get out in front of this and say shame on you if you try to take any of this interview out of context, especially to get extra eyes

on this great episode that we are presently promoting on the lower third with a graphic on DKN saying Pat Riley joining us on South Beach Sessions. So. I'm worried about all of this. I've been talking, there's a new us on South Beach Sessions. I'm worried about all of this. I've been talking, there's a new producer to South Beach Sessions for a while now. He's done a great job with it, Matthew Coogler.

He doesn't want anybody to see him. He's got a big forehead. That's true. And he could be in a barbershop quartet, but he's one of the rare, rare producers around here, and we do not make many of them in many years who don't wanna be on camera, don't wanna be at a microphone.

We don't make that kind of producer. I don't even recognize that kind of producer. I don't know what that is. But all he wants to do is like, no, let's make South Beach Sessions more intimate. And here, this is the part I actually wanna put in the front of the group in a serious way, in a humanizing way, because I'm a bit embarrassed by my flopping around this week on. I really like and admire these people,

and I would say in the history of my career here in South Florida, there have only been three people who have really shown me what it looks like at the inside of sports excellence, like really shown me as a curious sports reporter, oh, that's what it takes, that's what it takes. It's Ricky Williams, it's Pat Riley, and it's Jimmy Johnson. So not David Sampson. Not David Sampson, no, not David Sampson.

I have not, I've not never, David Sampsonson someone who could build a stadium in south florida where no one can do business and not have a cost overrun and not have a delay in south florida with all our development problems because he is a business beast but no is the answer your question consistent sports excellence is not something i got from him i got it from jimmy johnson i got it from ricky williams and i got it from pat riley showing me the inners of of things and so i trust those people because i know you gotta understand this part this part is

that world is more competitive than anyone listening to this can possibly understand about how hard it is to compete with other people over money and you've got to be more willful than competition a hollix about how hard it is to compete with other people over money, and you've gotta be more willful than competition-aholics about how you get at more money. And so, when it comes to criticizing Pat Riley, even though the standings do it for us, like, I just don't want to pile on with criticism that to me just seems obvious.

And are you saying within this interview? There is the opportunity to pile on by taking something out of context To help further our own agenda. I wanted to do this interview. It's something that might be the last interview I do with Pat Riley. That's what I'm trying to do with South Beach Sessions. You're doing it for the internet We have just killed Pat Riley. Yeah $50 fine You know you mentioned Matthew Coogler and I agree it is a rarity in this industry when you have a producer that Doesn't want to be on camera at all because every producer just ends up being so hungry And if you give them a little they try to take the entire mile and Matthew Kugler is just cut differently

He is someone that all producers should look at and admire. I had a weird interaction with him yesterday that I will tell you about in a second. But is Taylor trying to get on because we've got Bill Belichick news? There are some suspicions around Bill Belichick, and I don't know if you guys are interested in this. Are you watching what's happening with Belichick where he is now already having to? Insist I'm not gonna be the Raiders coach. I'm gonna be at North Carolina They've been there five minutes and he's got to insist immediately. Hey, they're not immediately How inefficient is this by the NFL you could have had Belichick at any time and all of a sudden now he's available and so you

You're willing to take a ten million dollar buyout a month later. Where did you get headphones? Spellcheck's not leaving. Wow, exclusive. Thank you. Well, he's been on top of this more than anybody in the country. There's been no reporter somehow better than the guy under Mike Ryan's desk.

I don't know how that's happened. He's been ahead of everybody on this. What do I do with the South Beach session, though? I was telling Kugler, I don't think it should run this week. I don't think that the timing should make it wait for... This is the timing you want because again Dan I know personally it might put you in a bit of a bind if someone takes something out of context from this interview and it becomes a whole thing but it really helps us and also Pat's probably gonna do that on his own anyway

and spin it into, I'm meant to do that. You should clickbait this thing up. You should be like, Riley speaks. That's how you put it out. No, I think, Dan, the only way for you to accomplish what it is that you want out of this is put the interview out there, do what you're doing now of letting people know

what the context is. We don't put out any of the clips that could be virally decontextualized as Amin would say, but we let everybody else do that and then by getting ahead of it today, you can yell at everyone tomorrow for doing the thing you know they're going to do today. That benefits us. It sure does. Why are you talking in that sing-song way? That's how I talk. Oh. I thought you meant Mike. It felt a bit... I guess I...

Some of the great talents. It's just not liking me, I get it. No, since it... Your voice sounds like music is what he's trying to say. Yeah. Thank you. Congrats. You do something with your eyebrows? You guys keep saying that I don't like Jeremy, and I understand that I have been a little extra mean to Jeremy. The only reason I have been extra mean to Jeremy is because he's trying to climb through the gauntlet that only Chris Winningham has ever

been allowed to climb through, which is, I am expert broadcasting prodigy. Let me show you how prodigious I am at broadcasting. There's only been one of those around here in our history for all the producers who love to talk at the microphones around here. I really wanted you to say, you guys keep saying I don't like Jeremy,

and the only reason why you think I mean the Jeremy is because I don't like Jeremy. I wanted you to end with that one, yes. I wish I had done that. I just keep saying this, and you're right, I despise him, I will say. It's not, no, that's not, it's not in, well it's in some ways true,

but it's not, in most ways it is not true. I still don't know what to do though, with Greg Cody's got opinions here, and I just, I want to tell you what the size of something is in basketball when it gets the soap opera dramatics involved. When the wide receiver Tyreek Hill has problems with the Dolphins,

was recently rated the number one player in the NFL, was by consensus, like the most exciting live wire any of us have saw seen on a field dwarfed by what we're presently talking about which is all mcdaniel doesn't have the heft riley does the dolphins don't have the heft the heat do to make the disgruntled off as greg cody is calling it something that makes tyreek hill dwarfed by the other controversy.

Right, yeah, and also the whole hierarchy of the Dolphins, they don't have a Pat Riley. You know, Steven Ross is not Pat Riley. Certainly Chris Greer isn't. And so whatever Tyreek Hill wants, he's gonna end up getting. If he wants to be traded, they're not gonna get much for him.

Everybody's thinking, oh, they'll get a first-round draft pick. No they won't. They'll be looking to get a third-round draft pick for a 30-year-old. I've loved that character of your dad since he was... your dad was a young man once. That sarcastic character that talks out of the side of his mouth with no they won't. I've been watching his work for 50 years. 50 years I've seen that guy. It's true though the market and and frankly the market value for Jimmy Jimmy Butler isn't great either. Amin could speak better to that than I would but he's 35. Tyree Killah is 30 coming off a bad season. Isn't as fast as by my eye isn't as fast as he was two years ago.

And so what's the market value for these guys? I know I'm off on a tangent here, but to have these two guys in a disgruntle off at this stage in their career is a little bit weird. And Tyreek is like, well, I'm used to making the playoffs. Well, they didn't make the playoffs because their starting quarterback missed missed six games so you know factor that in and and you didn't have a great season either and and as far as Jimmy Butler what Riley gave Jimmy Butler was good enough to make two finals in an Eastern Conference finals in five years so he didn't give him nothing but but Riley did what Riley did

which is he missed another whale you You know, he keeps going whale hunting and missing whales. The latest, I guess, was Lillard. And so, Pat Riley deserves the criticism you gave him the other day, and I wish you hadn't walked it back with that clarification, because it's not all Butler. It's not all Butler here. But this is the thing that I would say to all of you, and please, gruntled is not a word, right? Because disgruntled is a great word, but I'm not totally, it's not a word to be gruntled. It's funny, it has become a word. Gruntled? Yeah, it's a word now, but it's an after-the-fact word that was

invented and actually acknowledged to fit disgruntled. Is that right? Yeah. Gruntled became a word because of the popularity of disgruntled? Yeah. Because people were saying disgruntled and then were asking, where's the gruntled? Yeah. If you're in a good mood, you're gruntled. It is in the dictionary. In good humor, happy, contented, once he was gruntled. Wait a minute, you're saying the word comes from disgruntled? Yes. I believe that originally, gruntled was not a root word for disgruntled, but after the fact it became so.

Because if you have a dis, you gotta have something that's the opposite of dis. Yes, it's just like disappointed. You know, when I'm not disappointed, I'm appointed. That's correct. I don't think appointed became a word, though, after disappointed the way that Greg is alleging that gruntled came after disgruntled. When I have discretion, Dan is always like, I mean, the way that Greg is alleging that gruntled came after disgruntled. When I have discretion, Dan is always like,

I mean, you don't have any discretion on the show, so what he wants me to have is crescent. Craig was right, disgruntled indeed came first, as according to ChatGPD. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, our money. It must be so, then. If our overlord says so.

MiriamWebster.com says the same thing. 1830 for disgruntled, 1904 for gruntled. First reduces. That makes sense. And indeed a back formation for disgruntled. Yeah, after the fact. Dan, I don't want you to be dismayed, I want you to be made.

Okay, you keep doing that the entirety of the show if you like. I'd be happy if that were your only contribution today. I'm dying to talk to Lucy about her frolicking at Texas with Ricky Williams. Yes, because I haven't seen the footage. I'd like to see the footage of you. We broke, you know, we did some things

that got us in trouble with some people. I was dealing with things during the break because of what we did at Texas. And so I wanted to talk to you about your college football wanderings. We appear to have a pretty big game tonight where you might wanna keep an eye just generally on we're very close to having to walk back

some James Franklin stuff because there aren't very many good teams left. I've never said anything about him. Or it gets worse, which is kind of what we're. Well, but he's already fixed some things, hasn't he? Like, James, whatever the reputation of James Franklin is, it's been improved here, even if he loses tonight with a boneheaded decision at the end,

just because he's won a couple of games that people are gonna remember. He still does that weird little run, so until he stops doing that, I can't trust him. Guys all these things are distractions. James Franklin is only gonna keep the tractions he's gonna get rid of the distractions. And he was right by the way Franklin was right teams should be in conferences you shouldn't be allowed to say oh we're in Notre Dame we're so big we're bigger than college football itself, we can be independent

if we want to be. It shouldn't, you know, but the problem is the NCAA no longer has any strength. Nobody's running college football, and so they get to do whatever they want because they're Notre Dame. Yeah, but that's the way that it's always been, and they negotiated that great deal for themselves, and now you want to take away their freedom. Why? Because James Franklin says so.

No, because that's the uniformity of college football is everybody's in a conference. No but it doesn't have to be like that they've got their freedom they're more valuable than everyone else they act like it because they are. Okay let's everybody be independent then. Okay that's fine negotiate that for yourself the way Notre Dame did we should we should like seriously. Might go that way. Like why might actually yeah might actually go to a full-fledged independence. There was an opportunity here if the ACC had foresight or strong leadership. They're absent of both. But in 2020, when Notre Dame was out of options in the COVID year, they joined the ACC for

just one year. And the ACC allowed for a situation in which Notre Dame got all the benefit of that, got to host an entire football season. Otherwise they wouldn't have, and they got nothing in return, including zero dollars from a team that is basically an ACC team making it to the CFP. Wait a second, are you saying that they're going to dismantle the conferences and just have mantled independence? It's crazy.

Crazy. I would say something that Chip Kelly said, I believe a few years ago, was that he kind of thinks college football is heading in the direction of where Notre Dame is because although Notre Dame is independent in football they have conference allegiance and other sports. They're in the ACC for basketball and a couple other sports I believe they're in the Big Ten for hockey so like it does sort of seem like a natural move to take football out of the conference equation. But if you look specifically at the playoff, once you advance to the next round, you bring X amount of money for your conference back to the Big Ten, back to the ACC. Yes, well not the ACC, they're not bringing anything back.

But the SEC's bringing stuff back. Notre Dame gets that all for themselves. Where Texas makes it to the playoff, they're in the last four standing, and they're sharing that money with Arkansas and Mississippi State. Notre Dame gets that whole thing for themselves and it's just not fair.

It's not fair. Yeah, you guys are funny this way because I will tell you, I have no good feelings for Notre Dame, not a one. Really, but you guys out here trying to take away their freedom because they're better at the business of college football than everybody else and they've turned themselves into a brand that doesn't even have to be good in order to be more valuable than everyone else.

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I got a Magnum condom. Um, we won't get that out. That's shocking. Stugats. Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old. Right next to the condom. Yeah. That's a subtle reminder.

Never forget. This is the Don Lebatardar Show with the Stoogats. I'm loving this discussion. Less cushion, more discussion. I'm not trying to, I know that Greg's trying to take away their independence. I'm not. I'm just taking the opportunity to slam the ACC for bad leadership. This is the fight in America right now.

Somebody wants to be about religion, somebody wants to take away their independence. It's not just college football, it's all of America right now. Like what are you doing, Greg? And I understand, if you wanna hate Notre Dame, hate Notre Dame. Man, look, the thing that I want most on college football

for whatever the championship game is, oh, you're gonna give me another Alabama that I can root against? You're gonna give me another Alabama that I can root against? You're gonna give me the option that I can root for somebody and root against somebody? Put Notre Dame in that game. That brand remains more valuable than all the other brands, remains that way, SEC, everything, amazingly,

at least in part because it's not beholden to any of these conferences. They don't have to split things six ways. Is it hard for you to hate Notre Dame knowing how hot Marcus Freeman is? Because when Brian Kelly was there, it was so, so easy. But now that they've got a hottie, it kinda changes things a little bit.

It's been tough, because I'm like, you're so hot, I wanna like you, but ugh, Notre Dame. Very hot. He's also dying his hair now. Oh, he definitely is. Yeah, he's dying his hair now. Yeah, the Beijing was bad. I mean, didn't he have a terrible, terrible Beijing? Like, I other name. Very hot. He's also dying his hair now. Oh, he definitely is. Yeah, he's dying his hair now. Yeah, the Beijing was bad. I mean, didn't he have a terrible, terrible Beijing?

Like, I think we can find that. Yeah, phones on the TV can tend to make things look worse, but yes, he's dying his hair. There is a difference between Beijing and dying your hair. To me, dying your hair is when you've got gray hair and you're turning black. Beijing is like, I don't have hair, and I'm trying to give the illusion of hair.

No, he's got a lid on him, and the hairline isn't bad. He's just dying it to keep it looking young. I've gotta be honest, I didn't know what any of that was. I didn't even know the name Beijing as a hair treatment thing until Carlos Boozer ran onto the court, and it was just clear that he had chapapote. It was just asphalt. It was just, right? It was just clear that he had chapapote. It was just asphalt. It was just like, it was just, right?

It was just on his head. It looked like it had been painted in a way that- Crudely. Well, not just crudely, in a way that made me say to myself, whoever Carlos Boozer's barber is, that person is gonna have eternal shame about what he just did to Carlos Boozer. He didn't have a barber, he had a painter.

Someone with painter's tape right here and then the paint roller in the paint and then roll it up. You gotta, if you're Carlos Boozer in that spot, you have to play that entire basketball game with a baseball cap on. Whoever did that certainly touched up Jeremy's eyebrows today.

Something is going on. Well, not just Jeremy's. We got an eyebrow problem in the shipping container. Roy, I still look at Roy and I still see that there's half an eyebrow missing because he had a haircut and he clipped an eyebrow. That doesn't happen to folks who just do Beijing. It doesn't happen to folks that aren't trying to do something

to their eyebrows already. Like, what is the story behind this? Was he trying to do something on his head and it slipped and whoops, it's like, oh no. I'm worried about all of this, right? Because you just said recently that he's taken up skating, that also involves blades. I don't like the idea of Roy around things that are sharp

and now, I, I, I. Me, you're cool with it? You cut your eyebrow while. I'm less cool with it, honestly, you're so bumbling. Roy, when you're cutting your hair, I've never heard of anybody accidentally cutting their eyebrow while cutting their hair. I've never heard of such a thing.

When you are going towards your forehead on the side of your head, it slipped. Oh boy. I don't know, man. This story just doesn't, it doesn't make sense to me. I don't see it like whoops, whoops. Well, you're not cutting your own hair, Mike. The old slip is cut. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't see it like whoops, whoops. Like casually- Well you're not cutting your own hair, Mike.

The old slip is- No, but when I try to manicure my own eyebrows, I might make a mistake. So I think that- Same. I think that perhaps the intention here wasn't the side of the head. The intended target was indeed the eyebrow, and someone just overplayed it.

No, I believe Roy, because at first I was kind of wondering, how do you do it? But now that you mentioned it's back to front, he's going back to front, and then it slips. But you just get distracted and keep going? Like, hey, what was I thinking about? Well, it's because it's that turn.

If you don't take that turn well, you slip and it goes forward. And what ends up happening is you destroy your eyebrow. And what Roy wanted to do was he wanted to Troy his eyebrow. He didn't want to destroy it. Ah, that's true. Destroy it. Are you guys going to start at the three of you've done this now where he does it it's obvious that it's always doing and all of you go uh...

and her or could be it's good the point of view of reacted to me surprising each time when it's clear that everything he's saying is meant to just get to that joke and somehow, somehow Lucy, Mike, and Greg have stopped for a moment to respect the joke and then move on, but I don't understand why it is that you can't just keep talking. Because it's worth acknowledging. It's a bit that he's created. No, but it's funnier if no one acknowledges it.

It's funnier if he just keeps... Oh, okay. That's one way that he's created. No, but it's funnier if no one acknowledges it. It's funnier if he just keeps... Oh, okay. That's one way to look at it. What? He shouldn't keep stopping the show because, ah, clever. That's one way to look at it. Clever. You're still doing that thing. Yeah. It's a beautiful bit that he created. I want to give him acknowledgement for it. It's not, it's not. Okay.

It's a beautiful bit. By the way, a quick aside aside Nobody needs eyebrows. Okay. I brought this up one white I brought this up once before on the show I said I challenged the entire show to shave off their eyebrows then you do it right now Well, who's with me? I'm not I'm really I am one. I was I was right now I would do it if everyone else did except no about if just Roy does it with you If you think everyone should do it, then you should have no problem being like I'll just do it on my own I'll start the trend lead us the brows would grow back then do it shave your eyebrows I would if I didn't have to go to the orange

No one's disputing that I don't want to sit in the press box and be made fun of cuz I don't have any eye no one's disputing that it wouldn't grow Back you're claiming that it would look fine. It look people wouldn't even notice I could walk around with no I know they wouldn't even know you seen Voldemort He doesn't have eyebrows. No, you know, no one should no one's disputing that you would like you wouldn't have eyebrows But some people are peuting no one should It's most useless body part. Come on Someone should be peuting it. that's all I'm saying. I have a solution here, okay?

I follow a lot of like special effects makeup artists on TikTok and I think that I, with the glue stick and some concealer, could make it look like you don't have eyebrows. All right, let's do it right now. Can someone get me a glue stick and concealer? All right, let's- That matches his skin tone. We're gonna plan on doing this.

I also wanna see if we have any takers. Maybe Kugler out there is a taker. If anyone, Greg's just looking. If one person is willing to do it, Greg says he's willing to do it. I don't know if we have any tailors, any people who are so eager to be on camera that anyone out there is willing to shave their eyebrows.

Fuentes is there, Fuentes in the house willing to shave eyebrows. You offered camera time to Mike their eyebrows. Fuentes, is there a Fuentes in the house willing to shave eyebrows? You offered camera time to Mike Fuentes. Fuentes just gave me the eyes. I think he's in. Okay, I'm just telling everybody in the other room, if I have one taker on shaved eyebrows, Greg. Wait a minute now.

I already explained, I work among people tonight. I gotta go to an Orange Bowl game, okay? I'm gonna have a Orange Bowl game. Okay? You can't make the argument. No one cares. No one needs them. No one should have them I can't go out tonight looking like that because I'm an iconoclast, you know, no one agrees with me I'm alone on a mountaintop, you know If if if if if the rigor was no eyebrows, I'd be right at the front of the line. Greg, normally I would have sympathy for you, but you're the one who opened this door. You're the one who brought it to us.

And now you're trying to dissuade us. Stop trying to dissuade us. Dissuade us. Dan did it. We got you. It would have been a lot funnier if you had him. It sure would have been. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. I'm laughing at how bad it was. That one was so obvious. It's his cadence. It's the chair. It's very heavy handed. It's the sing song and the lack of subtlety from the chair. And I'm still reeling from,

Greg Cody said no one needs eyebrows. And I've never seen Lucy that indignant. Lucy in the corner of that room where Billy Newt usually hides in support of Greg Cody we got an entirely opposite viewpoint on opposite day from Lucy looking at you and saying you're out of your head saying we don't need our eyebrows. Okay and I challenge saying we don't need our eyebrows. And I challenge Lucy to explain why she needs eyebrows. Cause they make me look good and they frame my face.

Have you seen what happens when someone like goes Pamela Anderson on their eyebrows? They look like a completely different person. There's a reason in every sitcom ever, there's always one weird episode where someone burns their eyebrows off and they look so ridiculous. You need them to look nice. That's the standard thought process, I guess.

You just keep being like, okay, I don't need eyebrows, and then we're giving you the opportunity to say you don't need them, to shave them off, and you won't take it. I don't know if Amin knows, I think he must know. As our basketball expert, I think Amin must know what I'm about to say here, okay? But I have watched the entirety that we've been talking about this,

and Mike is like a pit bull being held by the neck because he knows that we have a photograph of former Knicks coach Mike Woodson who had an eyebrow accident of some sort, and we can now put that on the screen for you because Amin is saying, no, that's not an accident. He's saying, and we can now put that on the screen for you because Amin is saying, no, that's not an accident. He shaved his eyebrows on purpose

because he erred in thinking exactly what Greg Cody thinks. No, he made a bet with his team. Hey, if we do this, if we like hold the whatever to under 100 points, I'll shave my eyebrows off. And so the Hawks who at the time weren't that good, did this miraculous thing on court, and so man of his word. I believe that's when he also shaved his head,

because remember, Mike Woodson used to have a head of hair kind of like Stephen A. Smith's, receding hairline, but like thick hair where it was. And he shaved everything off, including his eyebrows. There's a lost bet right there. Greg, I think you're underestimating how much of your facial expressions come from your eyebrows because you lose your eyebrows and then you permanently look like shocked the whole time because your eyebrows make up such a part of like

look your eyebrows you're like burying your your eyebrows right now like it's making a face. Okay but but but the eyebrows are not what furrow. Then shave it. You're just yap yap yap and you're not doing anything. Okay. Yap yap yap and you won't shave your eyebrows off. Be a man. I'm gonna start a browless movement. I'm gonna. Right now?

Without doing it? I'm gonna be the king of the browless movement. Okay? I'm not prepared to start right now because I gotta work tonight. So tomorrow? It could be. You see that? It could be. It sounds like you're dissenting when you should be senting.

I am going to tell you, okay, that I just saw Amin, okay? Amin ended the last thing he said with lost bet. He made a serious point. And then the show moved in a different direction. And he made a face and got really angry with himself because he didn't have another shitty joke lined up. He thought he was gonna go the entire segment making the shitty joke to end every point

and he got mad at himself for not having one there. Yeah, well, you know what? Walt Disney didn't create his empire in a day, Dan. He was knee first before he was Disney. No, don't push that button. Don't you dare. (*whistle*) Major penalty, five minutes, swimming comedy.

(*upbeat music*) Scrooning comedy You're always so damn strict, why don't you be district for a little bit? You know what fanfare he was met with when that door open I want none of those people to have eyebrows What about the embodied ones You can join them but don't shave off those beautiful eyebrows of yours today I don't know what it is you're doing pal, but I'm on you Lucy, please I am somebody who is an expert at creating conflict between chemicals in our environment

I learned it from Pat Riley. It's how it is that you make people sharper, especially Jeremy Tashay's who I've never liked You clearly have an objection in general to Greg Cody coming out here and being like, doesn't matter, doesn't matter, I'll do it, I'll do it, I gotta work tonight, I'm not gonna do anything, it's just bluster and nonsense. It's not, your words are not in any way meaningful. They don't mean anything. You can't just say that like, oh, everyone looks better with eyebrows, I'm gonna start the no eyebrow movement

and then say, well, I'm going somewhere and I don't wanna be embarrassed by how I'll look, so I'm not gonna shave my eyebrows, completely proving my point that you think you need eyebrows. No, because society tells me that I do. Well then don't listen and shave your eyebrows. Okay, first-

Maybe shave one? No, that'd be ridiculous. I mean, to shave one eyebrow would be ridiculous. I would feel off balance. I'm big into symmetry. That's ridiculous. I have, to shave one eyebrow would be ridiculous. I would feel off balance. I'm big into symmetry. I have to have symmetry in my life. I may shave my eyebrows on the Greg Cody Show podcast. For your own gain.

Put it on our YouTube channel. Okay, so okay, there it is, there it is. I'm thinking about that. Okay, there it is. Now we've gotten somewhere. First I gotta research, how long does it take for brows to grow back? I'm on it.

I think it's a bad idea in general. You good without eyebrows by the way. I would not yeah You would know my face required my face needs them. They're like accents over my Looks like an enye. They're a crutch. Thanks seeing three to four months to grow back eyebrows fully Yeah, you without eyebrows eyebrows are probably your signature feature You don't think so? No. He's either known for a beard or eyebrows. He's got unique eyebrows. Nobody's been known for their eyebrows since Einstein. Eugene Levy. That's not a bad suggestion. It's a great suggestion. Yeah it's a great suggestion. Wow, Mike's been waiting all his life to be able to just flip over that Eugene Levy card

at exactly that moment, and everyone put down their sword. I could have gone Groucho Marx, but I feel like Eugene Levy was inspired. But everyone, do you know how rare it is to get generations of Cody's to just back off? You got us with the eyebrows. I also like that that was my contemporary reference, Eugene Levy. Yeah, and then you went to Mark's. I could have gone Julia Fox.

The absence of eyebrows is also an eyebrow. Anthony Davis. Well, that's just one eyebrow. He's famous for having one eyebrow. Luna, bro. I mean, don't play a semantics game. That was a good answer, good answer. Cara Delevingne, but you guys probably don't know who she is.

No, I know who she is. She's got beautiful eyes. I know you know who she is, but I don't think you guys know who she is. Okay, that's not necessary. Do you know who she is? Unneeded, unneeded. Do you know who she is?

Unneeded. Answer the question. I'm not gonna take a quiz. Well said. It was very aggressive, Lucy. Okay, we were talking about his eyebrows. I don't need a pop culture course. Where are you and Greg on this feud? Because we're not going to get any payoff. We're just going to

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