The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Double-Very Controversy

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Billy, Jessica, Mike, and Roy. So, the Dallas Cowboys are a dumpster fire, huh? Should Jerry Jones still be in charge? Are the Texans good? Or are they very, very far from being great? There are SEVERAL football questions to answer today, but things come to a halt as Dan and Greg get into an argument over Greg's description of the Texans and Dan seizing on the language. Tensions bubble over as the duo gets into it over Dan saying Greg "roots" for the Dolphins. Greg is outraged. Dan is laughing. The show is off the rails. Plus, Tony is down at Versailles for some authentic Cuban food and to deliver his Tony's Top 5 including takes on Bo Nix, the Lions, and the San Fransisco 49ers' window to win it all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chris, your father just looked me dead in the eye and threatened to write a tell-all book. And I looked at him, I'm like, well, you've written two books already and our audience has helped make them bestsellers and Stugatz's book is killing it. The audience has made all, we are single-handedly reviving the read a book in your hands industry that's right right now you've got it one has to assume right that Kindle is doing better than just books right just in all books in terms of the publishing industry versus Kindle Kindle has to be doing better

right I would be very curious about that I'm gonna find out from out from you. I'm going to ask my source at my publishing house to get that information. Let's do it this way. How many people do you know that own a Kindle versus how many people do you know that own one book? Hmm. I know a lot of people who own books, but only because I know a lot of old people.

I've never seen a bookshelf full of Kindles, but I've seen a bookshelf full of books. Good point. Thank you, Billy. You have a source inside the book community, huh? I do, yeah. Really? Yeah, he can give me pretty much that exact answer,

which I'm curious about, but I wanna say one thing, and I don't mean to offend the Kindle crowd. But a Kindle is a bookshelf that you don't see. What do you mean? What are you talking about? It's a digital bookshelf. Bunch of books in there, so. It's not, no.

If you're listening to a book, I don't have one, I've heard. If you're listening to a book, you're not reading a book. I'm not doing that short, guys. You haven't read a book. Chris, did you nail your Kindle to the wall on accident? Can you not have multiple books in your Kindle? If you get different Kindles. Well, yes you can. I think you guys are screwing with me here. I don't know Kindle if you get different Kindles?

Well, yes, you can. I think you guys are screwing with me here. I don't know, because I've never had Kindles. What's the limit for books in my Kindle that I can have? Maybe two. Yeah. Maybe. I would assume that it's just the number

that you can download. Two. I still want the book in my hand. I still want to do it that way. I don't like reading books on computers. Put it on the poll at Levitard show Do you like reading books on your computer because I can't do it And I don't know if this is just creature of habit you like what you like

You're familiar with what you're familiar with and then you get to a certain age and you don't want to change anymore But I've tried Kindle and I don't like it I don't that's not how I want to read certain age and you don't wanna change anymore. But I've tried Kindle and I don't like it. That's not how I wanna read a book. And I don't know if this has something like taste and texture where I'm speaking to a bunch of young people perhaps that don't know or care what it feels like to have a book in your hand

because that's not the way they do it. And so because they're not familiar with the way I do it, the Kindle is the most normal thing in the world. Right. I like the tactile feel of actually turning a page, the sound of pages being turned, and also the bookmark. You know, you can have an official actual bookmark. I just rip a corner off a piece of paper and that's a bookmark. You know, you create your own bookmark. Yeah, and it enhances the enjoyment of writing an actual book.

You don't fold a corner over at the page. The old dog, yeah, I don't like it. Doesn't respect the book. I like a pristine page. Yeah, for sure. I like to feel the print of the letters also sometimes. It's almost my own version of Braille. I don't know how to read Braille,

I respect anyone who can. Sometimes I'll go over the pages and just kind of feel it. Sometimes the words, I don't know if it's the word that's sharp or the ink that's sharp, but sometimes I feel like a little cut almost on my finger when you go over it, yeah. I've never done that. Oh, you got to.

Are you reading off of a literal stone tablet? No, Mackindle. Oh, okay. Stone tablet. That reminds me that our bathroom signs here in our offices have braille, but they don't actually have texture to it. It's just braille that's printed on.

You can only see it. Yeah, that's not great, but I don't believe we've ever had anyone here who would need to use it. So I guess. Isn't that the Lame Stream media? Just the optics of us caring. But you're saying that metaphorically, right, on optics?

Because it's not, looks like we're prepared. It might be like building code required to do it, but I guess the follow through of actually making it braille, like for real, as opposed to something that looks like braille. But if it's only braille to sight, it is fundamentally useless. That's right.

It's not, it's- Yeah, but it's there. That's the important part. It's not just virtue signaling, it's only virtue signaling, like it doesn't have any other practical purpose. You got it. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugat's Podcast.

Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I don't know how much we have left like this in sports now that Nick Saban has left Alabama and Floyd Mayweather is no longer fighting. But tuning in to watch a team lose and tuning in to a game that you don't care about at all because you're assuming that Cooper Rush can't do anything, but you do

enjoy laughing at the disgraced brand of the Dallas Cowboys that now is at the bottom of a division with a team that just benched its quarterback for financial reasons more than football reasons and we're going back to Tommy DeVito. This is not what Jerry Jones had in mind when he said they were all in on this season. But people are talking about his team, Dan, and he cares about that deeply. Yeah, they're talking about his team, but they're talking about his team in the worst ways and now we will go back to the conversation of should the old man be in charge

because his fingerprints are all over that in his ego is all over everything they're more and they're broken it's not just they're physically broken a quarterback we've been questioning that team plenty before they gave that quarterback so now what because Because the Dallas Cowboys season is over, they exist last night on prime time television only for us to laugh at them. They have now lost, I told you this before, it had never happened in the history of the sport. Down 20 plus five straight home games, now it's six.

Like you don't see anything this bad in that sport. It's the Cowboys and it's six. Like, you don't see anything this bad in that sport. It's the Cowboys and it's Jacksonville. Like, and it's not even the Panthers anymore this way, where it's like, oh, you're playing at home and you can't come from within 20 at home? Like, you don't have a chance against real football teams. When you ask what's next, they're a year removed from being 12 and five.

So whether or not you think Jerry should give up power of that team and decision making power and overseeing everything, he's not gonna do it. So what's the point of having that conversation? They are a year removed. Would Jerry doing it from being 12 and 5? When you say what's next, Jerry's gonna have to change the way his approach to hiring head coaches like he's tried it with Mike McCarthy He's tried it with puppets now be the puppet let a guy like Belichick walk in and do what Bill Belichick He doesn't like that when he did it with Parcells They finished 12 and 5 3 straight years, but McCarthy's beginning to resemble Juan step to me where that's fair

Juan said was going 10 and 6 and 11 and 5 as well, but what? The thing just kept getting worse on his watch until it collapsed with a 4 and 12. Yeah, when you keep having great regular seasons and then don't do a lot in the playoffs, it almost makes the hurt worse. The only asterisk on behalf of Mike McCarthy is that his starting quarterback is lost for half the season, which is not nothing, but last night they're behind 20 to 10, fairly late in the game. They have a chance to go for a field goal to make it 20 to 13, a one-score game, and he goes for it on

like fourth and 13 or something and doesn't make it that's a bad coaching decision it it just is in retrospect and and even then i'm saying be behind by one score give yourself a chance you get i'm shocked that that jerry jones hasn't fired mike mccarthy told me that he's not doing that in season i mean that he won't do it in season that gives him everything he wants it gives him attention it gives him the feeling of power that he's making a bold move i don't know what the forward path is with that the status quo

he should fire his structural action engineer first because there's pieces of metal falling off the steep the ceiling and i was a lot of people making the jokes about the roof falling in, right, because that looked like it could have been much worse than it actually was, just a piece of metal falling from the sky. And then there was a second one that they had to bolt down on the catwalk before the game could start,

because they were afraid that one was gonna fall. Is this just debris from whatever it is that they were doing for Jake Paul and Mike Tyson? Like is this like, why would the roof be falling in the middle of a Monday night game? It was apparently the first time that they had opened up the roof in quite some time. So I guess over the extended break from actually opening it.

Rusty. Yeah, some pieces fell. Where are you guys on the Houston Texans? They're one of the good teams right? As long as their wide receivers are healthy they're one of the good teams? For me they're not the top four in the AFC. I think they're a good team that is very very far from being a great team although Joe Mixon very very far from being a good team. I think they're far from being a great team. You know, I don't think they're Baltimore.

I don't think they're Kansas City. I think, do they have the same record as Baltimore right now? They made it to the divisional round last year. Yeah, it could be. I don't think they're very far. Maybe I'm more bullish than them, but I think them with their full complement of receivers, I know Diggs is injured now too, but Nikko Collins does make a difference there. Yeah, he does.

A big difference, yeah. Both teams are 7 and 4, Dan. Yeah, he's really good. And Joe Mixon, to me, has been the difference in that offense. He has reinvented. He's having his best season at like age 28, which is ancient for a running back. But you're right, if they still had Stefan Diggs, they would be an awesome offense. All right, what's Cody doing here between good team?

I want to do this because I think you're all doing it. I think everyone listening to this does it, where they're saying they do their brackets and their tears. What is he doing where he's saying that the Houston football team is just okay is what he's saying. He's saying they're very, very far from being one of the best teams in the league and I don't think they are. I like to say they're good with a chance to be great. That's what I like to say. They're good, there's no doubt that they're good.

They have a chance to be great if everyone's healthy. I think they're second tier good in the AFC in a category with the Los Angeles Chargers. I don't think they're Baltimore and Kansas City. I think we need to go through their schedule, Dan, and determine the good wins and then the good losses. Because they have a lot of bad wins. Like they've beaten the Patriots and the Jaguars

and the Bears, but they also have one really good win against the Bills, so what do you do with that? I don't know what Cody is doing with the Chargers, okay? This was a stat Adam Schefter put out over the weekend. The Chargers went into the weekend, allowing 13.1 points per game. It is the first time, I'm sorry, the second time in 20 years that a first time coach

has had the lowest point total on defense. The other time that it happened was when Harbaugh also was with the 49ers in 2011 or 2014. And I didn't think of him as a defensive coach. Do you guys think of Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh as a defensive coach? Because he's a quarterback I think of him as an offensive and a quarterback coach but he's now had these two defenses and I don't think what Cody's doing is fair to the Chargers. I think the Chargers are a very good football team with the best

defense statistically going into the weekend in the league. I'm looking at the the league and the standings not that I need to because I know the AFC. Buffalo's better, Pittsburgh is better for me, Baltimore is better and Kansas City is better. I think any of those four teams would be favored over Houston on a neutral field. Jim Harbaugh came into the league as a guy reputed to do really well with quarterbacks. He had Josh Johnson in San Diego when he was in the college ranks, ascending, then he had Andrew Luck,

and then what he did with Colin Kaepernick. So that became his identity a little bit. But then in college, he showed you the type of football that he wants to play, which is very complimentary of a hard-nosed defensive style. The Chargers also have a better record because they already had the Bys, so they're 7-3 as opposed to 7-4.

Right. But you do have to factor in the bias. They're seven and three as opposed to seven and four. Right. But you do have to factor in the conference. I think that's fair. The AFC is a much more difficult conference. If the Chargers were playing in the NFC, I think a lot of people would feel like they have a much better chance of making a deep run in the playoffs. I'm a big Texans guy though, to put a bow on it. Will Anderson being in and out of the lineup.

I think defensively they have enough pieces. I really highly rate their Ed Gojjan's ability to scheme on the defensive out of the lineup. I think defensively they have enough pieces. I really highly rate their head coach and his ability to scheme on the defensive side of the ball. And they have offensively a ton of weapons. When they have a full compliment or close to a full compliment of those weapons, I think they're as threatening as anyone inside that conference to pluck one of those guys

that you consider tier one. When they don't though, CJ Stroud has proven he, right now can't get them past it without all of his weapons. That is true, but it's been a season and a half, so give him a minute. We've changed the way we're fighting. Oh, I mean, we're not writing him off. It's just CJ Stroud has regressed slightly

his sophomore season, and he's shown that without all of his weapons healthy, he struggles a little bit. There is no question about that. He has not been the sensation this year, the first half of the season that he was last year. But I just caution everybody about how we're doing some of these measurements on these quarterbacks more quickly than we have ever done them so that Anthony Richardson has played like nine games and we're already like nine games total college pro everything and we're yanking him in and out and making assessments very quickly on this stuff. CJ Stroud was the sensation of last season, raises the

expectations and as soon as his people get hurt now Cody's saying they're very very far from being a good team when they've got the same record as Baltimore. Like that's how it happens when we start moving around. Oh the quarterbacks playing a little less well. Yes you did say they're very far from being one of the top tier teams. You said, I think you said very, very far. Actually, play the tape on that one. Yeah, I don't know about that. Replay the Kindle. He said they're good, not great, which is not crazy. I mean, everyone can't be great. I think they're good, not great. They're second tier to me. Okay, the thing that I find interesting about how it is that we do these evaluations

is if you're willing to concede to me that a team in this sport is one of the good ones one of the ten you think are good then they're close okay that's fair well because i mean all you gotta do is end up winning small sample size games the next thing you know you can be one of these teams that you know elie manning's its way a Super Bowl. I'm just saying for me Houston is not a great team I think Denver would have a great chance against Houston you know I mean

there there you lost me I think Cincinnati the way Joe Burroughs playing I don't care what their record is they would have a chance against Houston yeah Bo Nicks has been good this season. He's been really good. He's the it guy now You know he went from being should they have drafted him at all and now he's the it guy I haven't looked at the offensive rookie player of the year Betting odds lately, but Nick's is shooting up the charts Greg Would you be surprised if the Texans were playing in the AFC championship game? I would but how? Because I think this 14 is better Someone gets surprised, like I don't.

That's happened. I mean, what? It would surprise anybody if Houston knocked off a Pittsburgh. Yeah, it would surprise me. OK. Huh? I mean, but they'd have to knock off a Pittsburgh and a Buffalo. That's I think what surprises Greg is they'd have to go through two good teams. Yes, the FC. They beat Buffalo already. I think, what surprises Greg, is they'd have to go through two good teams to get to the FC. They beat Buffalo already. I mean... Do you guys agree with the assessment that if you're one of the top ten teams, you're close? This season, with parity the way it is, I would agree with that. I don't think they're a bad team.

I don't think they're an average team. I think they're a good team, but is there really a long shot among the good teams? Well, the Vikings are a top ten team. Do you feel like they're an average team I think they're a good team but is there really a long shot among the good teams? Well the Vikings are a top 10 team do you feel like they're close? See I don't think the Vikings have any real shot. I agree. I don't like their quarterback and I've told you I don't like their quarterback and I don't like any of the teams who don't have a good quarterback to win a bunch of playoff games and playoff games on the road and then win the Super Bowl. What I'd like to see is Lamar Jackson get to the Super Bowl so he can have the comfort of playing against an NFC team because the teams that he plays against a lot,

like Pittsburgh, he does not play against well and he ravages everybody in the NFC. He could get the Lions though. I think we're coming down too hard on- I'd love to see that game. I think we're coming down too hard on Greg for saying that they're a tier two team in his AFC I think tier one is two to three teams and Greg's being fair Houston's right there among those the upper level tier two teams

But to get to an AFC championship game for assuming they win their division All they have to do is win one road game against the likes of a Pittsburgh or a Kansas City I think the AFC has shown you even Kansas City is as good as they've been They're in tight games if you play Lamar Jackson in the playoffs as Houston did last year that can be close as Lamar is shown Throughout his playoffs, so I don't think it's outside the room possibility at all The question is if the Texans are in tier two are the Dolphins also in tier two Greg because are you putting them in tier three? Yeah, they're in tier three. Okay.

Even though they're about to be six and seven, right? If they, they're gonna beat New England. If they win Thanksgiving night in Green Bay, they're the sneaky tier two team. I like it. I can't believe what I just saw. It was out of the corner of my eye, right? It's Billy and Stugats and it's a bit like whack-a-mole. It's like oh

Tear-talk 20 years down here What he did was not teard talk what he did was say very very far from being one of the best team There were two varies that's a different double very The tears is one conversation I'm not doing that with you guys but if you guys want to do a very very a double very situation conversation I will have that conversation with you we've been having it for 10 minutes I don't use double very you did no I want to hear the tape okay we're

going to go back and when I do it okay we're going to punish you at the end of the show today when we play that tape you're there's we're gonna punish you at the end of the show today. When we play that tape, there's gonna be a punishment at the end of the show that you're going to find out that you got this wrong because it is specifically what it is that I'm objecting to. I think you're very, very wrong. Okay, thank you. You already have it?

Wow, that was quick. They already have the sound of what it is that Greg Cody has alleged. This is big. everything is on the line right now greg i mean well he doesn't know when it is that he uses these verbal crutches to get to his thought uh... because he does it quite a bit with inefficient language and i'm watching him at all times like an attack i think they're a good team is very very far from being a great deal okay

through technology the second very was spliced in. Correct. His mouth didn't line up. I reject that. That was you splice in the second very. No. Chris is good at that. It's not AI. I can't believe they found it that fast. That's a miracle. You think they were able to also edit it that fast to misrepresent you? AI. On a bad arm week they're doing this to you. Alright, so you're saying this feels like a dubbed subtitled movie. I want you to watch your lips here because you think the AI also altered your lips?

I think they're a good team that is very, very far from being a great team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was saying far during that second very. Technology can do just about anything. All right, we end, we punctuate the show today with Greg Cody's punishment. I'm going to determine it secretly and we will get to it by the end of the show because he got it wrong. Hey podcasters, it's Mike Ryan and let me tell you something, the NBA's got a lot going for it right now. Bright young stars hitting the court, teams playing

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Don Lebatard. All right, we gotta go back out there. That was big. Wake him up. Uh-oh, he doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens.

You can see him mother-effing on it. Can we bother you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg. My microphone's on. Stugatz. Paint the scene. The paint the scene is I gotta go to work. Can we bother are we bothering you right now turn on your microphone my microphones on Stugats paint the scene the paint the scene is I gotta go to work. Good night This is the done libertar show with the Stugats Let's not talk about the good teams Let's talk about the bad teams and let's talk about specifically what the Jets have done to Mike Francesa. Listen to Mike Francesa here. The internet is accusing him of being broken. We made two plays. How did we

make two plays? We don't even know how we made two plays. But we're up 14-13. Let's go! Let's get Fireman Ed up! I heard Fireman Ed. I heard let's's go I heard there was a lead and then the whole jet season collapsed again as it does every Sunday play that again we made two play how did we make two plays we don't even know how we made two plays but we're up 14 13 let's go let's get fireman ed up he still got it I mean it doesn't feel right to me I don't know the correct way to do this, to end your career, but I thought he was retiring and it doesn't feel right to me to watch him shouting into a microphone after a jet came by himself.

And it doesn't seem like he's in a radio studio. I don't know if that might be in his house. It probably is in his house. I think he does a daily podcast. No, no, he does do a daily podcast. I think he does. He does do a daily podcast, but there's some. He should have a better ending, you're saying? There's something about, well, he already retired.

This happened, we just saw this happen in the Yankee, the Yankee booth in his 80s, where once you retire at a certain age, it's what Bobby Bowden said, there's only one major event where people gather after that for you so you stare at your retirement after a creature is a lifetime creature that talks six and a half hours a day on the radio and then you go into retirement and sounds awfully quiet and you have to

come back to hear the sound of your own voice i'd i'd just well he loves that well buddy retired so at one point he was done with it right and and alike they love sports both those guys love sports are any number of people who've been in this business for a long time who do not love sports so you see the enthusiasm that you genuine on ruso anytime you hear him talk when you hear him on first date but there's something about seeing frances Francesca that's a legend right there yeah no doubt and it feels like you're listening to him from a bus terminal and it just it doesn't it doesn't feel right to me and I know that sounds judgy but that's that's guys had

a monster career and so it just I don't know where he is physically doing that but it doesn't seem like it's a studio. It seems like it might be in his home. And so it does feel judgy though, right? I shouldn't be doing that. But it makes me actually a little bit sad. Yeah, I think this is a real bad look for you. Yeah, Mike is 60 something years old.

He is doing it from his house on most occasions. I think Mike has it figured out. He comes on, he gives 30 minutes of hot takes about New York sports, he gets paid a lot of money to do the podcast, and then he goes golfing. I mean that's his day. Get your money Legend. What you do at the final third of your illustrious career is your business and I'm sure you have your fans and if you have a studio in your home more power to you. I do sort of mourn the the death of impartiality or even the pretense of impartiality because the

one thing I heard there most was our Jets and and we're we're we're this way it's fine he can be a Jets fan. Sue Gus is a Jets fan. He's actually not a Jets fan I think he just has 25 years of covering the Jets and he's frustrated by the Jets because they make the same mistakes, a calamity of errors every single year. I'm curious why you're lobbing that at him. You're famously like a Dolphins fan. You root for your home teams. No, that's not true. No, he does it in the shadows. It's well known that I grew up a Dolphins fan. Okay. Okay, but I don't refer to the Dolphins as we. On air, in print, I certainly don't,

you know, Levitard might disagree. I try not to come off as a homer, I try to come off as someone who looks at the team fairly. Okay. With an impartial vantage. I don't think, this is the one criticism of you I've never understood, the homerism, the Greg is only rooting for the Dolphins

You tried to trade away the franchise's greatest player ever What Homer on earth would do that? That's fair. Billy's got it right now. That was a direct hit Billy. Thank you So I will make the argument on the other side because while Greg Cody doesn't say we when talking about the Dolphins Although his son does and while Greg Cody doesn't say we when talking about the Dolphins, although his son does, and while Greg Cody aspires to objectivity, I know that every Sunday and Monday that the Dolphins happen to play since the beginning of time,

he thinks they're going to win, and he wants them to win. So he's wearing this cloak of objectivity. Greg, Greg? Wrong. It is not wrong to say that you almost always pick them to win, almost always think they're going to win, and you're always rooting for them to win. The first two, I would have to look up the numbers on that.

Certainly I haven't picked them to win every game this year. But for you to say I'm rooting for them to win is flatly wrong i'm not my wife is uh... europe's staining your eating your eating chips and drinking miller light and europe's staining from having an interest when watching in the game who wins that's what you're claiming here on air

you're gonna stare at us in line and say that you are actually watching objectively. Yeah, and and you're lying by suggesting otherwise and and and Believe it or not. You may disagree. I know more about what I'm feeling and thinking than you do Let's talk to your mom about this Chris because she knows more than I invite that Wow man. I think you guys are playing with fire I've seen these really go sideways with Greg. Like, you're calling into question his integrity as a journalist.

And he's going to start taking this personally. I take it personally already. He's playing on the back end of a back-to-back on a bad arm week. I think you should probably just start with the AI stuff with his mouth. Going down a direction that you're not going to be able to come back from, pal.

You know what I do root for? I root for what I think would be a column I want to write. Okay? Them winning. Okay. You stepped on the landmine my friend. They've been warning me and you didn't see that there was a landmine there. That's what he's getting to. What I'm getting to is if the Miami Dolphins come back from their terrible record and somehow reach the Super Bowl for the first time in 40 years, yeah, I would like to write about that. That would be a wonderful story.

Clicks for Cody. When the Dolphins went one and 15 back in 07 or whenever it was, that was pretty interesting to write, that calamity. The worst thing to write is a 500 team, a boring team. I root for what I want to write. If that happens to be the Dolphins winning because I think that's the best story to write and if I want to write that Tua in his first game back from a concussion single-handedly won a game and put up a middle finger to everybody who doubted him, yeah that's

something I want to write. It doesn't mean I'm cheering for it. Wow. Let's play again the sound. This was Greg Cody earlier in the show. We'll get back to that in a second. Greg Cody, earlier in the show, not altered at all. We have the proof he will be punished by the end of the show.

I think they're a good team that is very, very, very, very, very far from being a great team. So Greg Cody is enraged. And this, look, this might be, this might be a silly thing because I happen to be, believe that objectivity is an illusion. It's not a thing that humans can actually be. It's only a thing they can aspire to be.

I agree with you. And so that's what your father's doing. He wants the Dolphins to win and has to hide it somewhere. From himself, from everybody. He wants them to win. He's wanted them to win since he was a kid. You don't actually put that away anywhere. You just try to write about them fairly.

Umpires, referees, they have their biases. You try... umpires referees they have their biases you try to put them judges they they have their biases you try to put them aside to do something that's factual and he's trying to do something that's objective but you're in no way actually objective you're just trying to be it well when when when somebody has what's one of your goals as a columnist you don't say to be objective anymore because you're right objectivity is almost an impossible

task if you have human feelings particularly if you've grown up a dolphins fan fairness is what i aspire to and i want to be fair in everything i write uh... i i don't want to come off like a cheerleader i don't think i do despite you trying to paint me is that and i know what i know in my heart And and if you want to say that I root for the Dolphins to win your heart your heart is awkward Your heart is awkward

Yeah, but to Billy's point that merino column. I mean that saves Greg arm with hindsight. That was the best column you've ever written I mean, it certainly was probably the most Talked about yeah. Yeah. Right. But it protects you. He did an interview in front of the Miami Herald building and his face was silhouetted and his voice was distorted like an FBI informant. They could do that at that time? Yeah, that was great.

That was really funny. That's so good. I remember that. Brilliant. Greg Cote did indeed try to trade Marino and it is a very good argument against his general homerism. He hasn't written a column like that since. He is a columnist actually that I would say comes closer to objective than wildly opinionated

because he doesn't write a lot of things that are on the extremes of takery. Isn't the point of a columnist though to give us your opinion, give us your take? Like, Greg's not out here acting like he's Bob Woodward, who by the way, journalistically, has had some questionable choices in the past 10 years. So Greg's giving you, the reader, his opinion as a South Florida guy, and I think that's the job, right? Right, and I don't hold back. I mean, the column I wrote in this morning's paper online right now on the Marlins manager hire was pretty

harsh if you're a Marlins fan and don't like the truth. What I wrote was he's going from the mountaintop of the Dodgers to the hinterlands of Miami and is this guy insane for taking this job? And so I'm going to write what I feel like writing you know if if the Miami if the hurricane is a different bias yeah you're a red sock fan Stu gots was just whispering in my ear he doesn't even like the Marlins like that's a different bias you're more likely to rip the Marlins than you are the dolphins see there again like you keep i'm not a fan oh god

you understand that right you are a fan you've been a fan since a kid of the Dolphins when I go to okay I I'm covering every dolphin game either remotely or in the stadium so this doesn't apply to the Dolphins when I go to a Marlin game quote-unquote as a fan if they hit a Grand Slam home run I'm not cheering I'm there I'm there even neutrally as a spectator, because I don't want somebody who might recognize me to say, look at this, Homer, cheering for the Marlins. No, I don't give a shit whether our teams win or lose. Now, I will say this,

I write for my readers. My readers are fans of these teams. And so if our teams are winning, look, what I have- What a lazy that-a-boy, and then he reaches into his pockets to grab it some cigarettes. I mean, he does it for the fans. I mean, who could complain about that? He cares about his readers. I mean. Look, I would have loved to have written that Lionel Messi in his first full season with the team led Miami to the MLS Cup. I would have loved to have written that. It doesn't make me a fan or a homer of that team. It makes me wanting to write what I think a lot of my readers

would love to read. Didn't you have season tickets for that team? Christopher and I had season tickets for it. No, we did. And I'm fine with that. So am I, by the way. What's the scandal in that? Nothing. There is no scandal. Why is Lemotard laughing like a hyena? You're a seasoned ticket holder.

Bad arm week, man. We are all Team Greg back here, by the way. Oh, he knows we are. I'm in your corner, Greg. Aligned with you here. Bad arm week and you're doing this to him. It's ridiculous. Terrible.

Don't get me started. No, you cross the line. Okay? You cross the line. Mike, it's happening. I'm good, right? Oh my God. You're on the line.

I mean, to make something of the fact that Christopher and I a couple of years ago bought season tickets, and how many games did I actually go to? Two? It was an investment, honestly. I mean, Greg, I simply was laughing at the comedic perfection. The bad investment. The staccato effort of you being asked directly a question after everything we've talked about

and then you admitting to, yes, I'm a season ticket holder. I was laughing because it and you are funny. Just the way that the music of that played out, it made me laugh that way because it's naturally funny for her I also saw it happen because it swung with your great ally Billy who whispered it into Sugatsa's and then it shot across as a question I told him I said don't mention Tom Herman got fired at FAU rough week for the owls. That's Greg's alma mater

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Dan, right here in front of our size. First off, I want to say DoorDash presents Tony's top five get all your game day faves delivered. Head to DraftKings.com slash DoorDash to play for free. Restrictions apply, void where prohibited. Dan, we're going to start off in the OLI, a fun week of football. We're going to start off here. Last night, Brandon Aubry missed automatic, except for the 40 yarder, but that was a network wide jinx. So we're going to throw that one off the record. Did you see how he kicked the 64 yarder? It looked like he just kicked it with real no power behind it.

Jessica's rolling her eyes at you. I don't know. I don't know what it is. What's going on here is everyone's been saying like, Oh, what happened to kickers in the NFL? Well, last time I checked, Chris Boswell had six field goals this weekend. So kickers were just fine. This weekend. This is not a Tony. This isn't everyone else. That's a diamond on the Steelers offense kind of thing. Oh, well I number two. Yeah, yes they did. Oh, well I number two Brock Bowers is the best weapon at tight end, not named Taysom Hill.

is the best weapon at tight end not named Taysom Hill. Dan, Taysom Hill's lined up at quarterback, at fullback, at running back, at tight end, at wide receiver, at quarterback. Mr. Do-It-All. Seems fun to be him on a Sunday like that, except for the interception. Once a year. Yeah.

Well, the interception was a bomb. He threw it 65 yards, you know? Even that was fun. that was what it is. All right. Starting off, it was fun. When you're supposed to look out and drop instead of running for a 75 yard touchdown, but you say, no, it's my turn and you run for a 75 yard touchdown. I like that.

All right. Starting off at number five is Bo Nix turning the corner. Okay. We're doing this officially as a show today. Put it on the, on the pole, Juju. Bo Nix, it guy. He's turning the corner. Dan, last week I told you, look out for Bo Nix.

Comes out, has a four touchdown game against Atlanta. Starting to turn the corner on being a quarterback that was, eh, to a quarterback that's being, hmm, hmm, intriguing. Bo Nicks. Oh, he's made the jump from... Exactly, thank you, Stugots. How is the jump? The jump is...

He's turning the corner. It's like a corner turn. Like he's about here, but then it's like here. So like that's where that game was. Instead of like here, it's here. So it's a quick turn to the corner. But what are the street addresses? Yeah, exactly.

Like he went from being like, to like, the corner turn. You're taking a little bit of a longer look at him now. How's there three stops on one corner? He's starting to make you think Dan You gotta stop their roundabout one of those weird roundabouts uses turn no no cuz you don't stop at those you just keep going at Those yeah, no, yeah, you don't just yeah

I don't think that's how those were you do. I think you I think in France you do. I think you just keep going in France. France. Thank you. We're at Betayev, very close by the way. No, very, very close. Number four. Not very, very close. Oh, there's one in France.

That's very, very, very, very, very, very close. Number four. Nobody does a TCB game like Dan Campbell and the Lions. Nobody. That's a new thing. What's a TCB game like Dan Campbell and the Lions. Nobody. That's a new thing. What's a TCB game, Dan? I don't know, take care of your business. Taking care of business.

I put a Y in there. You made it a yogurt store. A T-C-Y-B. That's a fine. Yeah. It's a TCB game, take care of business. That's what we do for the Lions at Dan Campbell. Nobody does it better number three I'm starting to feel bad for Joe burrow at this point

really Yeah, I have a couple of stats here. I don't know. I wasn't listening yesterday I don't know if you guys mentioned these two little back-to-back Joe burrow stats for you not by mr Civ by the way, these are these are authenticated and real not like Mr. Siv who confused me and Aaron Rodgers all right Joe Burrow has lost three games this season in which he has had three touchdown passes 300 yards or more and zero interceptions the most such losses in a season in the Super Bowl era crazy if he could undo it nobody has been better and loss. Do you think he'd not bleach his hair? He's I mean he's playing well, it's not his fault another another little stat here for you quickly

Joe burrow in the Bengals seven losses this year He's completed 67% of his passes for 2200 yards 18 touchdowns two picks. Seven losses by the way for the Bengals. So just tuck that one in for later. Number two, Mike Tomlin can single-handedly will a team to victory like nobody in NFL history. I think he can. I think he actually has that ability. I do. Just because he wants it? Yes.

He just wants it more, Dan. He doesn't blink. He says to Boswell, hey, you're going to kick a six and win the game. And he kicks six and wins the game. Somehow, someway Lamar Jackson, who's been the best quarterback all season, looks like Snoop Huntley out there. I don't get it. Ouch. I don't think he says anything to his kicker. I think he just wills it in. I mean, that's what he does. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I feel like Tomlin just kind of gives one of these and he looks at him and goes head nod and then that's it. And then Boswell knows what the deal is. Yeah. All right. So this is what we're doing. Number one. Okay. This is what we're gonna do with Tomlin now. It's his top five. Okay Thank you number one Dan, I'm sorry to say this for everybody in the Bay Area, but the 49ers window is officially closed I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I will be. Wow. Yet I am. Exactly right, Greg Cody, who is not a homer, by the way.

Thank you. Objective journalist. Appreciate that. The more important point is you have injuries. You have a quarterback that you're going to have to pay coming up soon. There's a lot of things that are not going well for the 49ers. You're last in the division right now You let Gino Smith walk in for a 13-yard touchdown to win the game. It's over the windows closed There's too many good teams in the NFC for you to recover from being five and five

It's over and I'm fully expecting them to go seven straight games and win them all and then win the Super Bowl after I say This is what we're all rooting for. Thank you, Tony This is, we interrupted Greg Cody in what was the most indignant sports media rant objecting to being a homer since Bo Bach was on the air in Atlanta and was spouting while shaking a uh... you know a bottle of pills at us because he was objecting to how uh... somebody had called him a homer uh... and and he's not even a journalist like you he was he's just a sports radio guy although he does have a newsletter

how are you going to know anything about what you're talking about and you have the nerve to call up here and say to me that we're trying to upsell the Falcons to you? Sir, you're not a Falcon fan, you haven't been, and if you have been, you don't know what you're looking at. Stop being a Homer, Bo! Get out of my office! I'm not asking where's a Homer!

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