The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Elephant Not In The Room
Episode Date: November 20, 2024Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Amin, Chris, Billy, Izzy, and Jeremy. Dan is stuck on the causeway on his way to work, so Stugotz and Amin kick things off with the Shipping Container. Did you know Delta i...s going to be serving Shake Shack on flights out of Boston? Then, Jeremy, who is dressed as The Tin Man, gets kicked out before the show even starts as the crew begins discussing Jay Leno "falling down a hill" outside of his hotel. Amin has some reckless speculation on Leno's fall, and the rest of the crew wonders whether or not it's time to take Leno's keys, so Billy has an idea to save Leno from himself. Plus, Dan has finally arrived, and it's time for a conversation about Joel Embiid and the Philadelphia 76ers struggles and their team meeting after their loss to the Miami Heat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The rare elephant out of the room.
Yeah. Right? I like that. the rare elephant out of the room.
Yeah.
Right? I like that.
Yeah.
There's an elephant and he's not in the room.
He's not in the room.
Yeah.
But nobody can see the room at the moment.
Right.
So.
Dan's not here yet.
An elephant stuck in traffic is a funny visual.
It's a hippo not in the room.
Behind the wheel, like come come on honking his horn.
His entire large, I'm picturing Dan's convertible now and I've got just a giant elephant sitting
out of the convertible just like what the hell he can see more than the rest because he's an
elephant so he's kind of sharing with other cars like there's a fire up there. He has a height
advantage is what you're saying? Yeah. He's pointing with his trunk to let him know where the traffic
is going. Two trunks in that car, huh?
He's actually, since he's on the exchange,
he's taking his trunk, dipping it into water,
and trying to help by putting the fire out.
See, you have him as helpful,
as like courteous to the other drivers around him.
I have him as just honking his horn hard.
Rage.
He's like, come on!
Yes, rage.
I thought Dan only had like a two mile commute.
Like isn't he very close?
Yeah, but I would say this I'm assuming he takes that causeway every single day
And if there's a worse place for gridlock and an accident
If there's a worse place in the causeway, I am NOT aware of that place
I've watched bad boys too and I can concur with Stu gots that place is terrible cops
powersliding in a in a Ferrari and then opening fire on the masses of people well plus you can't get off I concur with Stu gots. That place is terrible. Cops power
sliding in a in a Ferrari and
then opening fire on masses of
people. Well, plus you can't
get off unless you live on Star
Island, Fisher Island, you can't
get off. The road's over when
it's over. Well, I've seen the
Rick Ross hustling video. You
can get off the causeway. You
just have to jump. You watch a
lot of videos that have the causeway. I do. I love the causeway.
Apparently there were fire trucks heading that way.
So in all honesty, I hope everything's okay.
We should get out there with that.
But he could, in theory,
Glad you got out there.
Walk here and still get here in time.
Absolutely.
Just abandon the car.
He's gonna leave his convertible just on the causeway?
Like I don't think he can do that.
I mean he can get another one.
That's true.
I'm thinking Dan could get here quicker
walking every day than I get here driving. That's true. I'm thinking Dan could get here quicker walking every day
than I get here driving.
We should do that one day.
Dan could actually-
Dan could actually-
You have Dan walking, huh?
Dan could actually pay one of us to walk to the causeway
to get in his car while he walks back.
That's a great idea.
He makes a show.
We should try that.
Clintus, go get Dan's car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Caveat. I might start connecting through Boston. I mean, how about that? No french fries though. Burger, chips. Why no fries?
It's difficult. I mean fries don't travel well. Yeah. You know fries you gotta get them, they gotta get fresh.
If you don't get them fresh then. They get even worse as they get higher in the air.
you gotta get them fresh. If you don't get them fresh then.
They get even worse as they get higher in the air.
Do you guys know about, I'm surprised Billy
hasn't brought this up on the show,
Shake Shack is sort of taking a shot at Chick-fil-A
and offering on Sundays only,
because Chick-fil-A is closed on Sundays,
they're free, they're chicken sandwich,
which is free of antibiotics, apparently they say so,
and Chick-fil-A is not,
and they're giving away one sandwich free every Sunday
if you buy through the app and spend at least $10.
So how'd he play?
I did it last week, classic vegan meal.
I love the idea that Shake Shack,
I mean for Chick-fil-A for years,
their marketing slogan has been like eat more chicken
and the cows
and stuff and Shake Shack HQ
is like enough of this
bullshit. We strike back on
their biggest vulnerability
Sundays. Wait. So why through
just Boston? That's it. That's
the only airport. Delta has a
deal with Shake Shack but it's
only through Boston. Yeah. So
typically whenever they launch these type of programs, they pick a market that's not quite the It's a test market, is what you're saying, a test case. Provincial, you know. But that's good, we should all be excited, like baby steps.
It takes one city to have it work out well,
and then suddenly we all have Shake Shack on our planes.
But also, if it doesn't work out,
we all know who to blame.
Boston.
Speaking of Boston, I saw a license plate this morning,
and it said, or yesterday rather, it said Duncan,
and it was from New Hampshire.
And Anthony asked, do you think he's a basketball?
And I just stopped him right there.
I was like, no, he's just from New England.
They love Dunkin' Donuts up there.
You didn't just show him a picture of Ben Affleck?
No, I didn't.
I think he didn't know it was all of New England.
I think he thought it was just Boston
that was obsessed with Dunkin'.
Yeah, I think I'll go to Boston.
I think I'll start a new life. I think I'll start it over where nobody knows my name
That's a song Boston by Augustana. You guys remember that one 2004 wrap it up
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You know, one of the rare things that happens in sports is when someone gets either like
a technical foul or a yellow card or something.
And the game hasn't even started.
We're like, you know, the refs are like, you know what, I'm not having this.
So Jeremy.
Wow. Minor penalty, two minutes, high sticking.
Yeah.
Why?
He's paying a penalty.
Now he's paying two.
Oh, it's for the song, right?
Not for the costume?
It's not for the costume.
It's for the, it's for what you did.
Augustana.
You don't remember that song?
No, I don't.
It was one of the biggest, think I'llanna you don't remember that song no I don't
Think I go to bus stand no no nobody Yeah, it's all no it's not it's a great song. It's on my Apple music. I get you is he it is not a great song
It's a great song. I'll give you a good song. It's not a great song two minutes two minutes
Not a lot of piano driven pop rock like if that you're watching Peacock, or wherever, on the DraftKings network,
yes, he is dressed like a metal stovepipe.
What are you?
He's the Tin Man.
He's the Tin Man, what are you?
Quick, off the top of your head,
what was the Tin Man missing?
A hort.
Courage.
Oh no, that was the line.
He's missing hort.
I always just think of oil. Oh, he was missing oil. He was missing Hork. I always just think of oil.
Oh, he was missing oil.
He was missing oil too.
He was missing oil.
You know, he was missing two things.
He was missing two things.
Everyone else was just one.
Like the lion, you got a charmed life.
Oh, you're missing his courage?
Everything else is there?
Cool.
Scarecrow, you don't have any brains.
You know what?
You're not missing anything.
I wish I didn't have brains.
I wish I was just an idiot.
I'm surprised you don't do a lion impression.
The cowardly lion impression.
Oh, I missed a Murgatroyd.
I can't remember.
It's been a while since I've seen Wizard of Oz.
My wife could not be more excited for Wicked.
And I'm kind of indifferent.
My wife is going with my daughter on Friday.
Same.
Yeah.
My wife's going with your daughter and your wife.
Can I ask, is Wicked, I know it's a Broadway musical.
It's been adapted into a movie.
I've been fascinated by this story, though I don't know it,
for a long time, the idea of like, hey, what if you told
The Wizard of Oz from the perspective of one of the witches, right?
That's the premise.
My big question is, is it a Grease musical, meaning,
hey, we act in Every Once and Only, we have a song? Or is it a Grease musical, meaning hey, we act in every once in a while,
we have a song, or is it a Hamilton musical
where they just won't shut the hell up
singing every little bit of dialogue?
What's the problem if they do it that way?
I'm not gonna even give it, not even a whirl
on Max or on Peacock or anything.
If it's all singing?
If it's all singing, you can keep it.
I would rather, you'd rather just a little bit of dialogue
and then randomly break out into song
or not have song throughout the entire thing?
Well, I mean, look, if it was my choice,
there would be no singing at all.
But I realize it's a musical,
so my acceptable threshold of musical is Grease.
It's a movie, and then everyone's like,
Go, Grease, la-de-da-da-da-da.
And you know what? Song's catchy.
I'll live with it.
But you're not gonna Hamilton me
where every single thing we do is a song.
And Izzy, why don't you tell me your opinion of the matter?
I actually don't have to fake it.
I know a lot of the words to Hamilton if you ask.
Can you sing the entire show today?
I mean.
Oh, that's, you know what?
That's a grid of death.
We should have that as a grid of death punishment.
For the audience.
You've gotta sing.
Right. You gotta sing every grid of death. We should have that as a grid of death punishment. For the audience. You've gotta sing. Right.
You gotta sing every bit of dialogue.
We did that, but we ended up using it on a mystery crate
because it was easier than,
honestly, I think we did the Tin Man too.
I don't know.
Where it reruns?
I'm pretty sure someone dresses as a Tin Man already.
It may have even been Jeremy.
This may just be something he likes to do.
Might also have been Dan just for fun.
Jeremy is at that point too, right,
where I think he dresses up just for fun too.
Totally convinced of it.
No doubt, yeah.
Yeah, Jeremy, like 20 years from now,
he's gonna have the biggest podcast in all the land.
Just dressing up, sitting in the big chair.
Sitting in gridlock.
Talking about UCI, sitting in gridlock.
Honking his horn.
I'm surprised Dan didn't have the helicopter
take him out of the car and fly him to the studios.
Again.
Yes.
I don't know how big of a helicopter you'd need though.
Or would it be like Operation Dumbo Drop
where they just hold him beneath?
What are you doing?
That was such a good movie, Operation Dumbo Drop.
I mean it wasn't.
Come on, Billy.
It was a great movie.
Why, how?
Like the idea of we're gonna drop elephants
out of this airplane is awesome.
Was it an airplane or was it a helicopter?
No, it was like, I thought that Operation Dumbodrop,
they had like the giant cargo plane,
and they pushed them out with parachutes.
Yeah.
You're right, yeah.
I've always been interested by the idea
of like a plane's back,
like the butt of the plane just opening up
and then everybody just jumps out of it.
I'll never find myself in that scenario,
but I see lots of movies in which that scenario occurs,
so it seems more common than it is.
Billy, if I were, I've never skydived,
I don't think I'm ever gonna skydive,
but if I were to, it would have to be
from the back of a big plane.
And you'd have to run and jump out.
Yup, with the ramp.
Dennis Leary was in that movie?
Hell yeah, he was.
What a cast.
Yes.
I don't think that you can solo parachute anymore
unless you have some sort of certification.
I think every time you go.
You gotta be strapped to someone, I think.
I think you're strapped to someone now.
Then I gotta be strapped to someone,
we gotta run together and then jump off.
Unless you do a class or something.
You know, when we did the skydiving here for the show,
I think it was like a Red Bull thing or something,
I don't even remember.
A couple years ago, I was like dangerously close
out of character to saying, you know what, I'll do it.
Because I'm never gonna do it.
I think Tony ended up doing it and someone else.
Who else did it or was it just him?
Was it Woody?
I think it was Woody, yeah.
Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that.
I just remember Tony nestling his head up
against the guy's shoulder right before.
That's all I remember from that.
And then I think they did another activation where it was helicopters that were doing flips
or something like that, and I don't think the video ever saw the light of day.
So it was just for funsies.
Helicopters doing flips?
Yeah, it was something crazy.
It was stunt helicopters.
Some things we don't need to do stunts in.
What is going on with Jay Leno?
I'm sorry. The poor guyts in. What is going on with Jay Leno?
I'm sorry.
The poor guy, man.
What is happening?
I'm looking up and every time I look up,
they're showing him showing off a new injury.
Like he's got an eye patch and underneath it,
it's disgusting and purple and he's got a wrist thing.
What is happening?
So Jay Leno was doing a stand-up show.
I guess Jay Leno just continues to work,
even though he has all the money in the world,
continues to work.
And he was doing a show, I feel like he said it was
in the Boston area, it could be wrong.
And instead of taking the path down,
because his hotel is at the top of a hill,
he decided, you know what, I'm gonna walk down
the side of the hill.
And then he fell down the side of the hill, 60 feet.
I gotta tell you, walking downhill is a dangerous game.
A dangerous game, and he's probably mid 70s now, right?
So, this is gonna sound mean, and I didn't mean to
kinda do a Jay Leno signing impression there,
but at a certain point, you have that uncomfortable
conversation with your elders, your parents,
your aunts, uncles, whatever.
Whoever's responsible in your life, you have to say,
hey, maybe it's time we start hiding the car keys, maybe, whatever. Whoever's responsible in your life, you have to say, hey, maybe it's time
we start hiding the car keys, maybe.
And Jay's rich, like Jay, just take a golf cart down,
take an Uber, what are we doing?
Yeah, oh my God, imagine taking Jay Leno's keys.
He would always have a spare somewhere.
Because when you take away elderly people's keys,
well you find out, I had a friend
that they did that to the grandfather, right? They took away the grandfather's keys where you find out, like I had a friend that they did that to the grandfather,
right, they took away the grandfather's keys
and the grandfather knew what was up
and he ended up passing away.
When he passed away they went to clean out his house.
Before he found the keys?
Okay, so they went to clean out his house
and when they went to clean out his house
what they found was he knew that it was happening
and he made a million copies
and had keys hidden all over the house.
So everywhere that they would clean,
they'd find a new set of car keys
that he hid in the house
because he knew they were gonna take away his car keys.
Now multiply that by like a hundred cars
because Jay Leno-
That's what I'm saying.
Right, that's what he's saying, yes.
Jay Leno would be impossible to stop him from driving.
And it's not just driving, right?
Like he flies too, or Harrison Ford is the one that flew.
Did Jay Leno fly things too?
Travolta.
No, but remember Harrison Ford crashed an airplane.
I remember Harrison, I don't remember Jay Leno.
Yeah, like Harrison Ford crashed an airplane,
and then like a couple months later,
it's like Harrison Ford flying again.
It's like why?
Stop flying.
Like what's wrong with you?
In terms of Jay Leno, I'm saying just stay inside, man.
Like this whole side of his face is purple.
He's wearing an eye patch.
I mean...
Yes, we have sound.
We do have sound of Jay Leno wearing an eye patch talking about the accident.
Jay Leno is all bruised up.
The left side of his face is black and blue.
His eye is swollen shut.
Oh man.
His injured wrist.
I broke my wrist. Lost my nail on the finger, and then I'm all black and blue.
The comedian says he fell down a 60-foot hill.
I said, well, the hill doesn't look that steep.
Let me take a...
Down!
And then I...
You rolled down a hill?
That's not true.
No, that's true.
Jay Leno says he was staying at a Hampton Inn about 30 miles outside of Pittsburgh on Saturday night
when he wanted to have dinner at a local restaurant
before his show.
Instead of walking a mile and a half down the road,
he decided to take a shortcut down the hill.
Not a good idea.
The hill is a cliff.
Okay, hold on.
Wait, he stayed at a Hampton Inn?
And then he's like, I'll be fine.
Hold on.
I'll see you again.
Guys, guys, I have some reckless speculation here.
OK.
Time to throw away all journalistic credibility
and get reckless.
Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.
You're good.
The most excited I've ever been after hearing that sound.
Unpaid gambling debts.
Ooh.
Really? Look at him.
Can we get that image back on the screen?
Not the video, but just the image of him?
Hmm.
That's not falling down a hill injury.
Like how do you get hit in the eye socket specifically
and that your eye swells shut?
Like it must have been a tree
is the only thing I could think of if that was the case.
Like the broken finger, the one broken finger. He's like I lost a nail and oddly enough
He's like looking around when he says that as if like he just dropped the nail like he okay
He's reportedly worth 450 million dollars like does he just doesn't want to sell his cars keeps working
He is staying at a Hampton Inn staying at a Hampton Inn. He's still working Pittsburgh
Like exactly you're Jay Leno
Staying out of Hampton Inn, he's still working. It's Pittsburgh.
Exactly, you're Jay Leno, if you're Jay Leno,
you just do the comedy store and you do the comedy cellar.
That's how you get your itch scratched.
You just walk in there, by the way,
Jay Leno, he's the type of comedian,
walks in, doesn't matter who's on the set,
they're gonna bump them and put them up there.
I love Billy thinking that Pittsburgh
doesn't have any good hotels.
I mean, so he reportedly did a show
like 90 minutes after this accident.
He just went and did a show anyways.
And then like, and if you want,
you can see Jay tonight back in LA.
He's doing some charity show.
Guy doesn't wanna stop working.
Even more to the point, you gotta keep earning.
Maybe he's not worth 450 million.
Maybe he's broke.
You know what I would do if I,
like now thinking about this?
So, and this is mean and borderline elderly abuse.
So I'm just gonna get out on the front end and say this.
They're out.
Okay, so like we've gotten this out of the way,
borderline elderly abuse,
but the ends justify the means on this situation.
This is elderly abuse, but it's for a good cause.
So as we've seen, Jay is prone to accidents.
He caught on fire not too long ago also, I believe.
There's a situation with a fire.
So Jay, obviously, we need to keep him busy
because I guess he's bored.
That's why he's doing these shows or gambling tents,
as Amin said.
I think he may just be bored and looking for things to do.
He just wants to keep working, right?
Now, we remember that he gave up the tonight show and he gave it to Conan and
then took it back like three months later yeah whatever it was a very short
time he immediately took it back I think instead of taking his car keys what you
do is if he's actually worth 450 million dollars is you say because this is where
it gets you know borderline elderly abusive.
As you know, we've seen, we struggle sometimes
with different streaming services,
we don't know how to find this fight or that fight
or whatever, right, we don't know where these things are.
Streaming age.
Yeah, so I think what you do with Jay is,
if you're his family, and you have access to, you know,
his accounts or whatever, you tell him,
Jay, NBC Peacock needs you again.
Jimmy, something's up there, right?
Jimmy's gonna be taking a little break,
some time for himself, they need the big dog back.
And then what you do is,
you build a replica set of The Tonight Show
and Jay Leno's massive estate.
And then you say, you know what, Jay, don't worry about it.
We're gonna set it up, we're gonna make you a home studio.
Or you just rent a studio, whatever.
You built him a replica set.
Home studio in his house, yes.
I think you'd do that, but then he may be onto
what's going on, or you just rent a studio space
and you build a replica set.
And the replica set actually might be better
because in LA and Hollywood, my assumption is
people just always want to be in crowds on TV shows, right?
So what you do is you just tell him
he's hosting the Tonight Show again.
And then every day you go out there
and you do run throughs for the Tonight Show.
You're creating a simulation for him.
Exactly.
A simulation of his former life.
You get some unhoused people to be the in-studio audience well
I mean I know about that, but you just get extras everybody wants to be an extra you can also just pay like a hundred people
And they're just in a different spot every day so that way he doesn't notice, but I pay less if they're on house
But I okay well, I think you could just get them for free
I don't think you have to pay them if they think they're in a studio audience.
And it just.
A sandwich.
No, not, no.
They get chicken sandwiches.
No, just tourists.
Shake Shack, do it on Sundays.
This is all just to keep Jay Leno safe.
To keep him safe.
To keep him from driving.
You just basically have him doing the Tonight Show every day.
It just doesn't air anywhere.
Right, thinking it's gonna lead off.
Exactly right, and then you make sure he's off the street
and he's fine.
He's not walking down mountains for fun. Billy Billy how much security will we need here because none
No one knows this is happening. Well Jay Leno the mob knows and they well
But this goes back to you seem to be stuck on two things today
You seem to be stuck on potential gambling debt and the unhoused and I don't understand why we're stuck on those things
There's a scenario my scenario didn't involve either of those things. We just bring it back to that
That's why do you have to call him big dog? Is that part of the routine? Do you have to call Jay Leno
Big Dog?
He's a Big Dog and he knows it. That's how you lure him back in. Because he's like,
no, Jimmy's doing a great job. So it's like he doesn't want to step on Jimmy's toes.
He's like, well, when I did the Conan, it was a great job. So no one wants to step on
his toes because he got the bad reputation when he did the Conan. So he doesn't want
to do it to Jimmy
But then when you throw in the big dog Jimmy needs your big dog, and he's like okay
And then he gets back in puts on his leather jacket
Yeah, get on his motorcycle, but even his motorcycle you just put it on a treadmill and you have like the scenes going by
Yeah, exactly right he doesn't know
You got a fan blowing his hair back? Yeah, exactly right.
He doesn't know.
Ha ha ha.
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Fell down a hill is a great old person way to get injured.
It's a dangerous game.
I was telling the guys walking downhill as you get older, dangerous game.
I really thought that your observation
was the correct one on that entire story,
beyond the grotesqueness of Jay Leno's face,
and just the funny in falling down a hill.
Hampton Inn is stunning.
I was just, that was the most shocking fact
in that story, that what do you mean
Jay Leno was staying at a Hampton Inn?
Pittsburgh.
Billy has the right take when he's like,
wait a minute, you're still grinding it out
on the circuit working material
when you've got an airplane hanger filled of Porsches?
Like, why are you staying at a Hampton Inn?
Please get me some nearby hotels there or something.
Tell me what I can find.
He needs to feel like he's traveling.
Forgive me Billy, I can't hear you.
Something's wrong.
It's better this way.
Yeah.
It's better this way.
You're not missing much.
I just felt a real enjoyment in doing the show.
We're onto something.
I feel like I can only hear Amin and Stugatz right now
and not the rest of you.
We saved the show.
Forgive me for being late.
I was gonna start with a screed
about how Joel Embiid has to get to games and practices
and team functions on time.
How rare is it, Amin, for a guy like Maxey
in the pecking order to have to go after his star player
because the 76ers are the biggest disaster in the sport?
They're two and 11, they've got the sameers are the biggest disaster in the sport.
They're two and 11, they've got the same record
as the Wizards.
Well, first and foremost, let's give a shout out
to the columnist who got shelved,
today is doing his own Peloton victory laugh somewhere.
He's like patting himself on the back like,
I told y'all, everybody was starting yelling at me,
talking about I'm a bad guy, but I told y'all everybody was starting yelling at me talking about I'm a bad guy but I told y'all so according to reporting by
Shamshiraniya not that out of place out of common because Maxie A has a greater
relationship with Embiid and they hold each other accountable and B Maxie has
been more vocal recently within the locker room so it not, for the people inside the room,
and ultimately that's the most important group,
for the people inside the room,
it did not come across as,
who the hell is this young whippersnapper
to tell our MVP this?
It was like, yeah, that's his place.
So I'm gonna assume from the reporting
that it's not a big deal.
And again, Max, this is his fourth year in the league.
He's clearly one of the best players on the team.
He's been an all-star.
And most importantly, he's got a relationship.
Now, I'll give you a great example of someone
that resume wise would say he can't say anything,
but really was one of the best at doing this.
And everyone's gonna laugh.
Tenacity Santa DiCumpo.
One of the big reasons why he was on the
books for all those years was because reportedly he was the only guy that could tell Yannis,
hey man you're full of it right now and you need to shut up and listen to these people.
And Yannis would listen to him because it's his older brother. But you know a lot of times those
characters come in packages and way with like you're not someone who can say,
think about you, Donnas Haslem,
who's you Donnas Haslem to say anything
to anybody all those years?
You barely play, you're an old man,
but the respect level was there
and when the message came from him, people accepted.
I just think it's pretty interesting
that you have a player in his prime
who has an assortment of health issues,
but is MVP worthy.
In that sports, Dugats, that I imagine part of the reason
somewhere that ratings are down as people argue about
whether it's three pointers or social justice
or load management or whatever it is,
I imagine there's a general dissatisfaction
with the idea of a guy like Joel Embiid can't be bothered to play all the time when he's an MVP
talent.
I would say that's the biggest thing working against the NBA
is people are hesitant to go to games or tune into games because
the guys they want to see aren't playing.
I don't know the reason and I'm going to defer to Amin on I'm
sure because this has been his industry, his business for a
long time. He cares deeply about the reasons that people have less interest.
There is a bit of a changing of the guard.
We've been having the same stories for 10 years now, right?
Same players, and now there are new players coming.
But Joel Embiid, part of the dissatisfaction i would imagine with the sport is
all of the players they get upset wherever it is that they're playing and
then they change teams and and everything is breaking in philadelphia
in a way that will make him feel unappreciated by everyone there and not
want to be there anymore available as an mvp talent in his prime i mean because
it can't start worse
than it has.
It's like he put a bookmark in last season.
He's got Bell's palsy because of the stress in his face trying to play against the Nixon
Madison Square Garden and then this season starts and it starts with him and Paul George
aren't playing.
And it starts with this story now.
Maxie, it starts with him telling Philadelphia, hey you don't appreciate me
enough. I mean we're real close to this guy not wanting to be there anymore
because of how poorly everything has started there and here's the thing about
Philadelphia getting upset about that, they need him so much more than he needs
them. Like that's part of how it is you get to this kind of entitled when you've overcome everything he's overcome and you arrive late for stuff and tell your
fan base do you know what I've given you shut up I'll play when I'm ready. Yeah I
mean I think I think there's a bunch of things happening it's part of it is
health how much of that that is under its control How much of it is it? There's a city in Philadelphia and a media base
that is one of the more critical ones in the league, right?
There is a team that has entitled him,
had given him entitlement, since he was a rookie.
I mean, I remember hearing stories from people
close to the Sixers back then where they were like,
yeah, they had to hold the bus for Joel Embiid.
This is when he was a rookie and his first, second year in the league.
And I said, what do you mean they had to hold the bus?
First of all, holding a bus, when have we ever done that?
Second of all, why didn't they just take the second bus?
And the guy told me, that is the second bus.
And I said, hold on, you have a rookie who's taking the second bus and the guy told me that is the second bus. And I said, hold on, you have a rookie who's taking
the second bus?
And now it's different, ladies and gentlemen.
It's all gone to shit.
But back in-
Oh, wow, here we go.
I love when he goes full old man falling down a hill
with his basketball analysis.
Look, man.
It's all gone to shit.
You should do that with an iPad shot.
Tell us how they used to travel back in the horse and buggy days when you were running the league, Amin.
Look, I'm not saying when I was running the league, but when I worked in the league, it was known,
if you were a rookie, even the number one overall pick, even the number one overall pick who was dominating,
you were on the road, you take the first bus to the arena. If not, take a car service to the arena before the first bus, because you want to get extra,
extra work in.
Right?
The second bus was just vets.
You never had young players on that bus.
And so for a guy to be taking the second bus as a rookie or a second year player, that was unheard of,
and then lump onto it, we're holding the bus?
Dude, there are a lot of vets who've been left, you've got to get your own taxi or whatever,
Uber from the, well there weren't no Ubers back then, from the hotel to the arena if
you are late to this bus.
So this is the backdrop of which, you know, he has been raised for
young players. That's why it's so important for rookies and young players that everything
is held to a higher standard for them because whatever they experience, that's what they
think this thing is. And that's why you get so many guys who are at one organization and
do things a certain way and they get to the sixth and seventh year in the league,
and then they get traded somewhere,
and they're like, oh, that's how they do that?
Think about how many guys come to Miami
and are shell-shocked by the level of regiment,
because they've lived a life where it's like,
nah, this is the NBA, you can just show up late to the bus.
Miami's interesting in that Miami's a bit
of a military school, and LeBron and a bunch of others
sort of shocked at the way that the place was run
when they got here, but I remember one of the first things
to bounce against it was Shaq getting here,
the Shaq economy, right?
They did a certain thing a certain way
and then he gets here and he bounces against,
like wait a minute, I'm a bigger star than basketball.
And what Embiid's story is,
not just everything that he overcame
to be one of the top 1% of the top 1% against all odds
playing basketball professionally for all the money.
He's the entire process.
He's the only reason.
Well, he's the part of the process that works.
Well, he's the entire franchise's reason for having value and interest in basketball.
And he's been the only good thing about what they do for a long time. And so when he looks
up and Darrell Morey is summoned as his administrative
assistant to go get him, Paul George, and maybe I'll resign, maybe I'll want to be here.
Like all of these guys have taken over their franchises the way Aaron Rodgers takes over
a franchise, which is what happens when you get star power and the star actually has power.
Dan, can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay, good.
Would you like to say hello to Billy
because I know you missed him earlier.
No?
No, that's okay.
It was, I really, the last nine minutes
were so much more tranquil in my head.
Just generally, I felt like I was walking through a spa
for the last nine minutes.
You looked at me?
I gotta tell you, Swap Week was picking up steam yesterday.
Had a very influential college voice reach out to me
and say, I love Swap Week.
We can get to that later.
Yeah, let's get to that later.
Right now, Dan is skipping past the best thing
that Joel Embiid said, and it's basically him announcing
that he wants to go.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
I do not.
He said, in a slow trickle, if you will,
that Jimmy Butler is the best player in the league.
Oh please.
He started off by saying one of,
and then got to the best player in the league.
If that's not him pandering and saying,
hey, I wanna go to Miami, I don't know what is.
Hold on for a second.
You guys remember the movie where there's two guys and they both have issues with someone and say well if I murder your person you murder
My person no one suspect us because we're random people's crisscross, right?
That's what's happening here because Joe Lnb is probably unhappy in Philly and Jimmy Butler probably not thrilled about being in Miami
And they're like, you know what we should do
We should just throw chum in the water and give each other compliments and everyone's like I think Oh Joe
I'll be going to Miami and people else like doing that more than any other players in the league
Let's go ahead and play Joel and be doing this here because
This is going I think in Philadelphia about as badly as it could possibly go
What kind of pros a Jimmy percent tonight offensively?
Does everything What kind of proms did Jimmy present tonight offensively? I mean, Jimmy is Jimmy. He does everything, scoring, passing the ball,
commanding while being on the floor, both sides of the floor.
One of the best players in the league, probably top five.
Probably the best, actually.
Wow.
It really escalated there quickly. One of the best, top five. Probably the best, actually. Wow. It really escalated there quickly.
One of the best, top five, all right, he's the best.
Not quite a trickle.
What just happened there?
How did he elevate that quickly?
Was his unhappiness rising and he just kept going higher?
Why would he go from top five?
Why would he argue with himself that way?
I'm just picturing him like,
one of the best, oh, that's not gonna make news.
Top five, that's not gonna do anything either, oh, the best.
He's the best player.
Is there anyone other than Joel Embiid and Jimmy Butler
who think that Jimmy Butler is the best player in the league?
Carl Anthony Towns.
So there is a, okay, so there's a third person?
Not a one, man.
He's joking.
Jandre Wiggins also, all of those Timberwolves?
Everyone who's been bullied, Ben Simmons.
You say that Embiid needs, or Philadelphia needs Embiid
more than he needs Philadelphia.
And I would say no, he's been a failure there.
No, I'm serious.
He hasn't played more than 70 games.
He's never advanced that team to a conference finals.
And yes, maybe they got parts of the process wrong,
but they did get a maxi.
Now he has Paul George.
He hasn't been good enough.
It's him, he hasn't been good enough.
And if he leaves and goes, tries to connect himself
to Jimmy or go find a super team elsewhere,
he'll just be another guy like Kevin Durant
who couldn't get it done on his own.
You can have that opinion.
I'm more interested actually in the fault line
I'm more interested actually in the, like the fault line of what do you do
when your unhappy superstar is entirely the reason
for your relevance?
Like what do you do?
Cause if I make that Paul George in Maxing,
no one thinks that's beating Cleveland and Boston.
The only way that advances anywhere is with that guy.
That's why the power's real and that's why the value is real
because there are nowhere franchised without him.
It almost seems like he's just realizing everything
this year where he's like, man,
I've been through some teammates,
man, I've been through some injuries,
and now I've got this reporter talking about my dead brother
and I've got this going on and I've gotta talk about
Jimmy Butler because I can't stand it here anymore.
And I don't feel like playing,
and people in Philadelphia, the worst fan base for that.
Oh boy. For that.
I don't feel like playing, and it may indeed be your body,
and it may be at that size, flopping around,
falling on the floor, playing the way that you do,
that you do have to try to preserve your body for the playoffs.
It's a smart business move.
But when you start at 2-11, you're going to have a lot of ground to make up.
Like this is a disaster to start the season when they're as bad as the Wizards.
The playoffs start now.
Well, they literally did in the in-season tournament.
The wild part about that day in particular,
having this happen, is Embiid started the day
as doubtful to play and ramped himself up
to be able to play that game against the Heat,
but went out there and was laboring,
whether it was his knee, whether it was his conditioning,
he simply could not perform at the level we're used to.
It was his first game not taking a free throw since 2018.
That was how ineffective he was,
but all I can think about is Caleb Martin that night,
who showed up that morning to shoot around,
his first time walking back into the building in Miami,
now as a member of the 76ers,
going and playing against the Heat,
and then after that game, Kyle Lowry calling a meeting
after they blew a 19 point lead against Miami
at Jimmy Butler in order for Maxey to call out Embiid
and they're 2-11.
I can't imagine what Caleb Martin is thinking.
You look ridiculous.
If I only had a heart, Dan.
I used to before I started working here.
Billy, did I leave any meat on the bone
when it came to this Jay Leno story
because there was something about him falling down a hill
and the conversation that you guys were having
about trying to take away the keys from old people
because I just had this conversation yesterday
with my mother. Really? Where they did not make Thanksgiving plans far away
because, and she made a whole bunch of smoke
and excuses and lies to trick my father
about why they're not doing it,
but it's simply because she doesn't want him
getting into a car and driving far.
And I'm like, mom, thank you.
Just please start lying to him
because he will not let me have the keys to his car.
And five years ago, I drove with him someplace
driving 45 miles an hour among 70 mile an hour cars.
And I'm like, I can't do this anymore.
I've got to take this old man's keys, but he won't let me.
How about you get your old man a driver?
He won't take one.
Really?
He won't do it.
It's a tough discussion.
I've had it with my dad. He will not give up the keys as well. He's very stubborn. But Dan, imagine because years
from now, you know, 15 years from now, 20 years from now, Mike Ryan's going to try to take your
keys. Are you going to be willing? Because you don't have kids. Are you going to be willing to
give those keys up? Yeah, that's fine. I don't mind chauffeuring around.
I think you say that now.
Just tell Poppy that they renewed HQ.
You build them a studio.
You do the show.
And then you just say like,
Poppy, one of the perks this time,
they got you a driver.
They're just gonna send someone to pick you up every day.
Now, to answer your question on the meat on the bone,
Billy's been over here looking up Hampton Inns
in Pittsburgh for the last 20 minutes,
so I'm pretty sure there's plenty of meat there.
Billy, if we do-
There's 18, it looks like.
Billy, if we do that for Poppy,
how much security will we need?
Because you know the gambling debt's in the mob.
Mm.
I love the way Stugat says stubborn.
He puts the R in front of the-
It's a tough one for me.
Yeah, it is.
No, it's sometimes. No, it's not all the time... It's a tough one for me. Yeah, it is. It's sometimes.
No, it's not all the time.
There's a Ritz in Pittsburgh.
I really don't understand why it is Jay Leno was staying in a Hampton Inn.
I know why it is.
I was told that Jay Leno only spends the money that he makes doing stand-up.
He's like Gronk.
Didn't they say that about Gronk?
Gronk only, he would save all his football checks and all his average high school.
They got that from Shaq.
But Jay, what are we saving it for?
You know what I mean?
This is what you saved it for, to have fun now.
This was the same conversation that my parents were having
just the other day.
Like my mother's yelling at my father for being cheap
and she's like, I thought this is what we were saving for.
This time, when are we gonna spend it?
We're in our 80s, that's right.
All right, nice try.
You know what?
Behind the curtain, you push the button,
the sound was supposed to come out.
Sometimes that little thing
that you've got in front of them there.
Doesn't work.
It's because earlier, Mean had the reckless speculation running for like 15 minutes. So I had to turn it down
What happened reboot? I mean, I just hit the button. Well, I'm just that's why it was down
Love finger pointing in this. What were you trying to push Dan so we can get it was. Thank you Billy
That's the joke we were sitting around waiting for that one father sound
That joke we were sitting around waiting for. That one father sound of,
it's nice to have him around.
It's a nice sound, brings me back.
You guys have me tricking him into,
here's your driver, Dad,
we're doing highly questionable again,
and then what happens when there's no highly questionable?
No, no, no, we gotta go the whole way.
Like do I have to show up or Bumani?
No, we've all gotta do, Jason.
Oh, we've gotta just keep doing this.
Yes. Okay.
Jason's gotta be behind the camera again, like back in the day. Oh, yeah, that's the thing
We've got to do everything back exactly right you bring up the old cast
Yeah, Cleveland er and then you have like you have one of the drivers be I don't know
I don't want to go to air with this, but we will I don't know who he liked and who he didn't like from the old
Cast so then you have the driver
Be that person.
And then the hope is they just get
in such a chummy conversation that like,
Lucio or whoever just spends the entire time
driving Papi around town.
And they're just talking and it's like,
oh, Chino, I didn't know that you're a driver now.
And it's like, yeah, oh, Kendry's back.
Like, what are you doing, Kendry?
It's like, oh, he's driving now.
Yeah.
Exactly right.
And then you just, every day they talk.
It's always a different person from the back Danny's there one day
Bruce is back
Is Myra back
You guys are just delighted with your inside jokes that entire Billy story was just so that he can name
Kendrick Chino Danny and Bruce by name.
And Myra and Lucio.
Yeah, but just very, it's, it doesn't matter.
I hate so much when they do just a show for each other.
Can't forget about Lucio.
Myra has to still be talking.
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