The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Goldenest Cane I Know

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

Stugotz is back from the dentist and is trying to smoke after having teeth pulled, Juju is here, Jess is back from Ireland, and Lucy is crazed for College Football. Mike is discussing some "notions ar...ound the ACC" and Dan and Billy are here to debate Mike's conflicts of interest regarding his reporting on UM. Is this our Canes preview? Plus, the Marlins season might be over, but the Angels season definitely is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugots Podcast. Like an aging football veteran toward the end of his career Stugots Lymphs in here today and says I'm gonna give it a go He has had some mouth repairs that have long been overdue. I saw him googling. How do you smoke? Yeah cigarettes after you after you what after you have like something excavated after you have a tooth extracted How do you smoke to avoid dry pockets the only way to do it is through your nose dry pockets are dry socks Sockets pockets. I don't know. I'm all hopped up on meds today, Nana. Okay. That should be fun
Starting point is 00:01:00 Jessica's back from Ireland. Hi. She says that she has four hours, a full show of material for you on just Ireland stuff. The look on Billy's face regarding that says it all. It's not regarding that. It just, but you were drifting off. Well, because it, I mean, you don't smoke after you had two teeth taken out as the answer. Like, that's, that's what you do, you don't. Right, I did it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I draw the line, it's smoking out of my nose, Billy, okay? I think you're smoking through your butt. What? I was thinking about it. What? What do you mean you think you can smoke through your butt? I think that's a thing. That's not a thing.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Go sit in the penalty box. What? It is a thing. I'll back him up on that. You go sit with him. What do you mean? It's a thing. Pretty much you, anything with your butt. You can butt, jog, why not butt smoke?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Guys, Izzy is gone. This cleaned it up. I mean, is flying in an emergency. He is flying in. Whoa! Because. Comroller. Stugods, the fun roller got you again.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Comroller. Those billies. Yeah. Thank you, Billy. That was yesterday you weren't here, Jessica. He is, that is a callback. Billy has been very good the last couple of days of just making stinkers of jokes at the very start of the show and getting kicked out of the show.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But a mean is flying in because Stugots doesn't know if he's going to make it. Juju is here, that's always exciting. It always makes us happy when Juju arrives and Lucy is a crazy person about college football. Like she's not reasonable, she's not sane. Everything that happens in college football is the most awesome of things that has ever happened. Even week zero.
Starting point is 00:02:44 All of it. Juju is great. She's things that has ever happened. It is. Even week zero. All of it. Zero was great. She's right, by the way. You guys are all not college football fans, so that's why you don't. That's not true at all. What do you mean? That's not true.
Starting point is 00:02:53 That's why you don't appreciate the finer things in life. Week zero is just merely a little appetizer for the main course. You listen to me. Week zero, I was one in three headed into the Hawaii game. I took the rainbows, I doubled down, I went all my money back. How about that?
Starting point is 00:03:06 Don't tell me I don't love college football. Well, who were the three that you lost? Did you, I don't know. Okay. You tapped someone else forget. They were bad games. So you made a bad game. They were not bad games, they were great games.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I had Navy. I saw if I used. You had Navy? Yeah. What? I did. No, the name is like 146 to 14 against Navy and Ireland or something like that over the last three matches.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah. The armed services, we really do need to update the offenses. Come on guys. I'm gonna compete. Now come on. They can't compete that way. You used to like, that was them competing. No, that wasn't them competing.
Starting point is 00:03:42 That it's jarring when you're watching a college football game to see that kind of size and strength advantage. Where it's just obvious on the first three drives, oh, they're just gonna get cement mixered. Like they're not gonna be able to get into the backfield. They're just gonna get, it's gonna be like seeing a field plow. It was great talking to a lot of the Irish locals and people that went to the game that had not watched college football before because they pretty much all said the same thing which was
Starting point is 00:04:09 This game's way too slow for us like we can't watch this. There's way too much stoppage and we don't really get it and I'm like trust me You're right. There's a lot of slow stoppage time in college football But you're watching one team that plays like they played football 80 years ago versus a team with a modern offense. This is not really what every game's like. Just give it a chance. But every game is, this is a hard thing to explain internationally when you go around and tell people, yeah, there's actually about nine minutes of total action in the next three hours or two and a half hours that you're spending here. That there is a lot of explaining that to others. It's been baked in with us.
Starting point is 00:04:47 We've got used to it all our lives. And obviously it's the insanity and the passion that it is. But when you take it overseas and people keep stealing, they don't understand why they're huddling, first of all, because they're learning football. And then they see nine minutes of total action. That that's not exactly the way to do it with the attention deficit disorder that we're presently feeding with our distractions
Starting point is 00:05:09 and the need for stimuli at all turn. There's also, they changed the rules this year, which I hate, which now the clock doesn't stop after a first down in college football, except the final two minutes of each half, which was something that was unique to college football that I think allowed for a lot of possession, especially towards the end of house,
Starting point is 00:05:25 which led to some very crazy games, in my opinion. And so they sped it up now, but in the first, I don't know, 15 minutes of this game, there were like three, two and a half minute television timeouts. I was going crazy. I was like, oh, it's finally here. There's kickoff, Notre Dame's driving.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh, it's moving too slowly for you. And then all of a sudden, oh, nope, guy with the red hats out there. Guy with the red hat, he's out there again. Oh, he's moving too slowly. And then all of a sudden, oh, nope, guy with the red hats out there, guy with the red hat, he's out there again. Oh, he's still out there. This guy with the red hat was out there more than Sam Hartman. It was a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Well, Dan, you say Navy has to upgrade the offense and you're right, but Army has. Like Army in the last few years, they have upgraded and adapted to 2023. Obsurious. Not really. Not dead. Last year, they had games in which they scored 44 points,
Starting point is 00:06:09 34 points, 45 points. You can score a lot. Run in any count. No, it was a throwing attack. I'm telling you. Billy, what are you laughing about? I just like the argument. No, no, I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I'm telling you. And then you have a room full of college experts. Oh, look it up. I don't know. Well, that's the move. The look it, the look it up move. And then we look it up and everyone just keeps it moving when he ends up being wrong. But he is now looking it up with one hand. They did move away from the triple option. Thank you. Navy is also trying to move away from the triple option. They were trying to come into this game with more of a passing attack, did not work. Obviously, he's going to take time. Georgia Tech also has tried to move away from the triple option, but what happens when
Starting point is 00:06:52 you make these systemic changes, like you aren't, especially at a naval academy, you're not able to recruit the offensive line that you need to be able to sit back and pass the football, and probably not a... You're not able to recruit the anybody you need. Years. Yeah. But in order to execute that, it's going to take several classes to stack for players
Starting point is 00:07:13 that are more geared towards that scheme. It's a pretty terrible thing to inherit if you're at Georgia Tech and Paul Johnson is running for 20 years, the offense that is just recruiting players that don't know what to do with Calvin Johnson when he said Georgia Tech. I mean, what do you want him to do? He's not exactly in high school recruiting hotbeds like Georgia, who goes there? The idea that our greatest football players would sign up for playing in a spread offense in army and having
Starting point is 00:07:46 the risk going to war is why I believe the military doesn't get some of our greatest players. I believe that that is. Do you get to go to Ireland to play Notre Dame which is you know pretty cool if you ask me. Otherwise they would never get to leave the country those people in the Navy. I offered the spicy fix earlier this week of how they could get the best players and you guys just rejected it entirely. Yeah, because it was a terrible idea. Do you want to share it now with Juju and Lucy and Jessica again, even though it was a
Starting point is 00:08:15 terrible idea the first time? Yeah, that's the one. They get to draft a player from the winning team if they lose idea. Correct. That's right. That's how it works. Yeah, what's wrong with that? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Do you not want the best and brightest protecting our country and playing football for them as well? Happy Jim Cantori day. Oh, yeah. It's not gonna end well for him, right? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Put it on the pole, please, Judeoat Levitage show.
Starting point is 00:08:38 It's not gonna end well for Jim Cantori, right? Just if you play with fire so many times. I would say that even though he is a storm expert, the calculations are changing on everything that's happening right now. The math is changing, it's honestly. Billy, go sit in the penalty box again. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Storm surge of 10 to 15 feet is not normal. We are playing basically natural disaster lotto with how hot our oceans are. What is about to hit or is hitting right now northern Florida was when it was around Cuba a storm, a tropical storm, and very quickly because the seas are hot tub hot, got to a category four and they weren't saying it was going to be a category four i've gone the entirety of my life stucats down here even with hurricane and you happening
Starting point is 00:09:31 i was never afraid of her can't never i've lived here my entire life without fearing hurricanes but what i'm afraid of now is storm surge and water it It's not the winds anymore. It's the amount of water. George is already flooded and the storm hasn't gotten there. The amount of water that is being taken on is going to really disrupt life and take lives.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I'm watching footage of Cedar Key. I believe it's called on Twitter right now. When there are houses that are nearly underwater right now, that's where Jim Cantor is. He was there yesterday. He said, I might not be here tomorrow. I wake up this morning. He's still there.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Why? Why does Jim Cantor exist on inserting himself and being the story? Like, he's gonna die one day. I don't want Jim Cantor to die. I don't want anyone to die. But Jim can't toy one day is gonna get caught in one of these keys where the surge is so much,
Starting point is 00:10:31 it's on a roof of a house and nowhere else to stand. Where's he gonna stand when the roof is covered? Huh? This is why Jim can't toy is famous. He's been doing it very well for a very long time. I do think though that the nature of storms are about to change because, Stu Gatz, it's not just that we're still looking for bodies in Hawaii on fires. There are two hurricanes right now around Florida. When you look at it
Starting point is 00:10:57 from a satellite, it's horrifying. And I don't know. It sucks the fun, obviously, out of everything that we're doing. But right now, in northern Florida, there is a panic from the idea that ocean is just swamping. It's not... When you talk about 10 to 15 feet of storm surge, do you guys... That's two Shaquille O'Neill's. Like, people cannot survive that. That is catastrophic. If anyone is in that, that is not something that can be survived. And it seems like we're just playing, as I said before, nature lotto here, that it doesn't matter where you live. Go ahead and try and search. Go ahead and look it up. Places that are safe,
Starting point is 00:11:38 places that are safe from fire, from tornadoes, from earthquakes. You're going to find very little stugots that's safe safe and scientists are all telling you, hey, we underestimated this. This is all happening faster than we thought than it was. What's happening in the Arctic, the heating of the earth, and it's all based on our use of fossil fuels. Like 80% I think is the number.
Starting point is 00:11:59 It's all the way that we're burning fossil fuels. It's gonna take civil unrest, stugots. It's gonna be civil disobedience and protests. You thought our military academies running the triple option was antiquated. How about filling our cars with dinosaur bones? Because that's what we're doing right now. We're all gonna die.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Stugas doesn't want any of us to die, but we're all gonna die. Except Jim Cantor. Ha ha ha ha ha. Except Jim Cantor. Don't live a tart. We are crazed right now. You are a vet in prison. What are you guys? God's is alive.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm not saying. He's keeping this act over there. Jats has been writing the entire time about the Miami Heat. And a mean here is getting buried by heat nation. He's been telling you. He's been keeping it. You're praising Struce. He was all for nice Hey, what is that?
Starting point is 00:12:46 What are we doing? When screws go to the cup he's looking to lay it up He's not looking to turn it over like Duncan Robinson is Duncan Robinson is a cow Listen, listen, it's a coward Stugats, Chris, a coward And bam can be bam in DC I am done with him And Kyle Lowry's one of the worst postseason players in the history of the NBA. This is the Don Lebathe Show with his two gods.
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Starting point is 00:13:39 with a quarterback who injured his finger on his helmet, and playing... Wasn't his helmet? playing I wasn't his helmet on a helmet excuse me I'd be weird to find it'd be really considered really worried about his follow-through if he heard his thumb on his own helmet my bad Mike Ryan wants to talk about the University of Miami opener on the fringes of college football. Jessica and Lucy are not so college football obsessed that they're interested in this one,
Starting point is 00:14:11 are they? Even I have a line. Okay. Well, who's Miami playing? Miami. Oh wow, a couple of Miami's cutting it out. Do we have video there of Miami of Ohio saying that they are the real and true and only Miami,
Starting point is 00:14:31 the only thing I know about Miami of Ohio football is Ben Rothless Burger. That's what I do on word association with Miami of Ohio football. There's a Gabbard there now. Is there? There's a Gabbard there now. What is the sound that we have here, Mike,
Starting point is 00:14:45 of Miami of Ohio telling you that Miami of Florida is no longer? They're Hachat quarterback who was asked, and this is how you want your Hachat quarterback to answer this question. I think this plays out the same question, but the real Miami is where? And core gables are here. No, Oxford. Oxford Ohio.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Because you're around longer, you're just... and call Gables or Oxford. Oxford Ohio. Because you're around longer, you're just... No, I just think, I think we'll show them September 1st. That's a leading question. That's a loaded question. There's no personality from the quarterback to a question that was totally loaded. He didn't even believe that either by the way. And Mullet didn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Nobody believed you. The look, is that the hot shot look of a quarterback even believe that either, by the way, that Mullet didn't believe it, nobody believed you. The look, is that the hot shot look of a quarterback, backward cap, Mullet? Was it a Mullet? It was very flowing long hair. Is it, it is kind of Mullet. I just know he's not on Colin Coward's draft board. Miami of Ohio's offense is ranked 121st in S&P Plus. Iowa wins a lot of games with an offense, that bad, so.
Starting point is 00:15:44 They should have beaten Kentucky last year. They're not that bad. I mean win a lot of games with an offense that bad. So they should have beaten Kentucky last year. They're not that bad. I mean, everybody beaten Northwestern. At this point, I don't believe the University of Miami, given some of the games they lost last year, can be in a position where they feel, I don't know what the spread is in that game, but where they can feel very confident that they wouldn't lose to anybody. Because last year, there were a couple of times that they lost to a team like this and I don't know how you feel about the condition of your program. Mike Ryan, I don't believe I'm saying this flatly. I do not believe that I have seen a college football reporter in my
Starting point is 00:16:20 history covering sports embed himself in a program to get information. And because it's his lifestyle now, and people there trust him and he has relationships there, where he is both a football insider, but also a hobnobbing, mover and shaker booster, shaking hands, making sure that the power people who can pay crystal ball, $80 million are people he has relationships with. So this is a part, my character seems like a conflict of interest.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It is, it's new, it's the new journalism age. It is in everywhere. I'm good with it. Well, you always are with matters of a lack of ethics. It is for him. I don't have to have ethics. I'm not bowing to a journalistic entity. A medium, not a journalist.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You are an amorphous thing that exists around this show that has learned journalism, but not necessarily have to abide by it right now when we are our own bosses. And when you're actually fundraising for the University of Miami. I know what amorphous means. I don't think my brother Billy knows what amorphous means. You are found in a position today
Starting point is 00:17:34 where you're scared of the opener, excited. I'm excited for the opener. I'm excited to see this plan out. Last year was as disappointing an experience as I've ever had. There's a lot of renewed energy, a lot of people that look a lot different on that field this year. And for me, it's about expectations, managing them, not getting too high in believing that this is a multi-year plan.
Starting point is 00:17:58 So I'm excited to see this program, I think the staff, the players, the boosters, everyone needs a performance on Friday that you can take encouragement from and I'm hoping that's what happens. I don't remember who he was talking about, but I heard Mario Christobal talking about one of the players being muscles on top of muscles, 30 pounds of muscles that make you understand that at the highest tiers to got of minor league football, where young men are physically, giant men, there are, you will see physical differences between the very best of what is playing in college football and what Miami was last year even even last year. And they are saying that physically and I don't know what this means right. Everyone talks about Isaiah Simmons being a first round type of talent because he's like
Starting point is 00:18:54 Barcavius Mingo. It's just an athlete an incredible athlete. But I don't know how good he is at football because he hasn't been good at football. He just got traded to the Giants for what was it? Like a seventh round pick, but Miami has more physical athletes than they've had in a minute. We weren't a very impressive team coming off the bus.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I remember a couple of years ago, I was at practice. I'm like, who's that? That's finally, we got a body there and someone told me, oh, that's a punter. He's from Australia. So that's not really the case this year. Like Mario builds from the inside out and the offensive line and the defensive line
Starting point is 00:19:30 which approached out that I know yes, last year surprised me when he said arguably the best D line in the nation. That crap Miami team from last year said arguably in terms of pro prospects that team last year had one of the most talented D lines in the country. And I think from a past rushing perspective, they finished top 10.
Starting point is 00:19:49 The D line has only gotten more and more talented. This guy, Rubin Bain. They're more talented this year. Rubin Bain is honestly talked about as he could be like an all-time cane. And the offensive line looks totally different. There's three guys that they brought it. Four guys, if you include the transfer from Alabama in Cohen, they just look a lot different. And there's a lot of reason to be excited
Starting point is 00:20:15 because the body types are coming in now that you can kind of see the vision. And if you start stacking classes and the backup start looking like the starters, then you're going somewhere. They're 17 point favorites at home, by the way, since you asked earlier, 17 points. I think I'm taking the canes based on what Mike just said. They were 28 and a half point favorites against middle Tennessee last year.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Look, they're going to, I think they're going to be susceptible to big plays through the air because they're going to play a lot of man. And where I wasn't cool with it last year was, they were getting beat on man because they were breakdowns. If you're gonna lose a 1B1 matchup because the other guys better than you find, but there was just no cohesion along that secondary.
Starting point is 00:20:54 They're gonna have one of the more aggressive front sevens. They're gonna be able to stop the run. I think from a matchup perspective, there's a mobile quarterback that would like to run. I think that kind of plays into Miami's hands a little bit, but they'll probably get some big chunk plays over the air because we're going to concede that. Running is going to be huge for this. Our number one running back is by game two probably going to be our number three running back this season. And you're going to see a guy like Mark Fletcher
Starting point is 00:21:17 or Alan. Mark Fletcher is a load at running back. And he's got the intangibles from leadership, or I've spoken to him, he's a bright kid. He is going to be a menace for this scene. So there's a lot of reason to get excited. But in terms of my expectations for this season, I think eight wins, eight and four is nice. Hopefully they can win a game that they're not supposed to. Hopefully that game is FSU or maybe even next week
Starting point is 00:21:39 against Texas A&M. I think nine wins is great. And then you get to your three of the plan, which is compete for a conference, wherever that conference may be. And year four with an expanded playoff, hopefully be in that conversation because you'll talent your talent level after four years of stacking top 10 classes should be good enough to compete for a title. Juju, Billy, can you guys, I don't know if this is happening with your ear. It is happening a little bit with my ear and keep in mind
Starting point is 00:22:05 I care about the University of Miami program It's probably the thing in my career that I have cared about the most when it just being Somebody who grew up at that school and you tried to end them with the whole pal grand thing I didn't do that that wasn't my that wasn't my doing not allegedly I didn't do that. That wasn't my that wasn't my doing not allegedly No, it wasn't Not allegedly it was not me. I did not report anything you got beat on that story Yeah, yeah, that's a real Mandela effect that was Randy Mal Randy Melkick my ass on that story
Starting point is 00:22:36 He knew how to talk to district attorneys. I was 20 years old. I did not I did not know anything about federal aid or why Tony Russell would be in the athletic department doing crack and giving fake loans to people d a's new to randy i was beaten on that story but i care about the university of my amy program how much do you care in general because we'd love to have you talk to some folks there's different tiers of how much you care that is correct would you like to have a player show up at your birthday? We are doing NIL again this year, correct? No, thank you. We're not doing NIL this year.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Would you like to? I'm doing NIL personally, but- I'm pretty sure that's why it's true. Well, so last year our NIL deal came from Highly. You didn't pony up anything. It was our Highly team. Well, I don't know if you paid attention to the Highly season last year. Bit of a of a loser a big one and we decided last year
Starting point is 00:23:29 that we were going to give it to Romney Gill's foundation and we won the occasional Friday night game and his his foundation actually gets the answer your questions yes I would like metal arc and I would like us to be associated with the University of Miami football program in the way that aids them financially. Yes. How about FIU? Bill, he's calling some of their games. I mean, how about we support the Golden Panthers? Yeah. As soon as I start talking about money, everybody shows up with their hands out. Well, Florida's public university. I'd love to help Miami's Women's Basketball program. I can really make a difference. We did that last year. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And he hard and took us to an elite eight. If we help Iowa women's basketball program, we can win the Nadi. I want a great content. I want to help Nebraska women. Got a big fish on the line. Nebraska women's volleyball I'd like to help. They don't seem to need very much in the way of help.
Starting point is 00:24:21 No, Nebraska women's volleyball is today planning on breaking the record for highest attended women's sporting event in United States history. They're estimating to have 90,000 people at a volleyball game today. It's gonna be one of the cooler things we've seen in women's sports and in college sports.
Starting point is 00:24:37 The Oscars. But the question not helpful. The question I wanted to ask, Ju-Ju and Billy is because as Mike navigates all of these conflicts, kind of a journalist, not a journalist, fundraiser, booster, talker on air that can get people and the team and himself in trouble by saying the wrong thing. Do you guys hear some of what he's saying when he talks about UM like coach speak, that
Starting point is 00:25:01 he sounds got to have a plan, got it week to week, that it sounds like a coach getting out there, giving you a weekly press conference. Is it, are you hearing it that way? Cause I care about the program and I'm hearing it that way. You guys don't care about the program. I'm hearing that boosters be boosting because my boy be in all the conversations
Starting point is 00:25:18 and he knew messy was coming. He can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned, but he's definitely the goldenest cane I know. I don't even know any other golden hands. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Billing?
Starting point is 00:25:31 Well said, Juju. I mean, there's definitely a conflict, right? It's hard to deny that that's the case. What's a conflict, really? Well, you're paying money for access and then you're giving the information that they feed you. I'm not giving you the information that they feed you. I'm not giving you the information that they feed me. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Like the conflict. Why not, though? The conflict in terms of like journalism, like I'm not gonna say everything that I know. I have relationships and a lot of journalists by the way are like that. All of them are. No, all of them are. All of them are. Dan's got great sources and they trust him implicitly and Dan hasn't reported the vast majority of the stuff
Starting point is 00:26:05 that he knows. For me, reporting as I did on the crystal ball stuff was just to clear up all this misinformation that was out there and to stop bad faith actors from slandering the university. And through getting involved in that, my access, my appreciation for my school to be the change that I sought, to get involved,
Starting point is 00:26:24 to make sure that the last 20 years of my life are not the 20 years that my children have, where this team has won five national championships as in some goddamn punchline, I got involved and I care deeply about this and what you're hearing is coach speaking. Yeah, sure, fine. But on this show, I've gotten a lot of shit
Starting point is 00:26:40 for being a home or guy and I've had a lot of embarrassing years and I lost middle Tennessee state last year. So I'm gonna temper my expectations, have faith in the program that I'm actively taking apart in and get this program back to where it needs to be, so help me God. But Mike, you realize it seems I don't care. I do not care, but other people do.
Starting point is 00:26:57 You come off as a mouthpiece for the University of Miami. I am a mouthpiece because I'm actively in it. No, I know, but people question whether or not you're going to criticize Christa Balboon. He needs to be criticized. Those are not enough criticism last year. Or you personally, Mike, if they don't make a 12-team playoff, are you going to be the guy that says he needs to be fired? Yeah, it needs to work. Let's make a bold effort. Come on, like, like, we're several years down the line.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Too fast. There was nothing about last year, in which I was reserved. I was openly frustrated by it, but it did strengthen my revolt, and I got more active, I'm sorry, and I got more actively involved in the program to help change what happened last year. But that's where the journalism line is crossed.
Starting point is 00:27:42 But I'm not a journalism. I'm not a journalist. I'm not. You're being touted as a college reporter by the i can't but no but no but no but wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute his information on messy and crystal ball was a hundred percent like we know what i'm saying he was telling our audience more than any reporter covering anything nationally nationally or locally, he was telling our audience that he's got the receipt, everything he said was true. Like, and much like the crystal ball thing,
Starting point is 00:28:12 my approach on messy was to clear up misinformation because there was a lot of bad reporting out there. I'm not gonna come out and break, I don't care about the shine of breaking a story, like it'll happen if it happens throughout the course of the thing, but I'm not a journalist. It's this, Dougans, and you've heard me talk a lot about this, okay? Lord knows the audience is sick
Starting point is 00:28:32 of hearing me talk about journalism. You've heard me recently talk about how woegen shifter the best of the best, how they're compromised. You've seen publicly, the stories come out. Oh, the conflicts were just hidden. They weren't managing them well. They were conflicted. They're in business with the NBA and ESPN. It's a partnership for everybody. Everybody's got bosses, corporates in charge, and so the very best of the best are concealed,
Starting point is 00:29:00 but compromised. Mike's telling you, here's where I'm compromised. And his information is more solid than any of the information that we've gotten. Their journalism, if it's not dead, you've heard me talk just this week about the appalling thing happening local newspapers to God that's making this city the most corrupt one I've ever lived in. And that's saying something from Miami, because there are no checks and balances There are no resources to protect us to protect the people from government people being shit
Starting point is 00:29:32 All of journalism is compromised. We've got a guy here. Who is? Totally and completely a mouthpiece for the University of Miami whose information is better on the University of Miami than anyone who's ever covered the University of Miami. But he's not a journalist and that comes from the guy who broke the Pell Grant store. Don Lebatard, you keep mentioning Lou Harris and Lou Williams and Montrel Harris, you keep mentioning. Harold, Harold, excuse me. Still got snake. Thank you so much for being on with us. Really enjoy your work. Thanks for having me.
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Starting point is 00:30:35 Our college football insider said one of the most pathetic things I've ever heard from an insider before the show today, when he said as if it was sourced and loaded with information, quote, there's a notion around the ACC. Syracuse is talking. That FSU is going to blow out LSU this weekend. Because week zero had some crud that you can just I I believe your opinion agreed that's what the show revolves around You went to Ireland and the first week I believe all of us who were watching college football
Starting point is 00:31:23 Elevated everything the weekend was because we missed football in general so very much You didn't watch the ending of you tap Jacksonville state. It was awesome. Oh, jeezie boom It's such a lane for you just everything in college football is awesome any single thing that happens She gets deliriously happy about Don't you miss viewing sports through that that prism though like I'm envious of Lucy like I wish that I could still be happy But she's but what in general, but she's talking about college football outside of her IO experience To call her happy during some IO games might be a bridge too far We have a great punning battle coming up this weekend. So I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I'm excited. I did think to myself, I want people in Iowa have to hurt in their soul a little bit when all that comes out of a press conference is Kirk Farons liking the other teams punter. And everyone laughing at the idea of Iowa is only good at
Starting point is 00:32:25 nine to six games. He also said his favorite game he ever coached was Iowa winning six four. Not surprising. Sixth for the highway by the way. Yeah. A couple of safety. What is the hard way? To six points. They know. They know what they did. Billy, speaking of which, when you say that you have some envy, I really, I've told you a number of times this year, weirdly, that I enjoy watching the race. They're great at home runs. They're great at running the bases, defense. They're great at everything.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And they come in here and they drag the marlins. They're a good deal better than the Marlins. Are the Marlins now done? You know, yesterday we were talking about whether or not they were done. I said I wasn't ready to announce that they were officially done and then they lost 11 to 2 to the raise and I'm going to tell you what, Dan, they're 500 now. They were 14 games over 500 before they all start break. Now obviously they've played 14 games below 500 to get back to 500. I'm still not ready to say that they're done yet. Still not ready to say that they're
Starting point is 00:33:29 done. The Angels decided to release everyone on their roster yesterday for some reason, like a sore loser and a fantasy league. And now those players are up for grabs for any team that wants them. So, okay, this is it is hard. You may have noticed over the years of doing this show that Billy is a temperamental spirit and you never know what it is that he is going to latch on with his talons and get super excited about. What do you mean? Today, I'll tell you what I mean right now. Today, Billy comes in and he seemed unreasonably unhinged. He's mad, I did not expect this, at the angels.
Starting point is 00:34:03 He should be. Okay, but out of nowhere the thing that summons look they're bad for the game of baseball he just told you he's joyless he misses the time in sports where he cared like that in life and he had life in general has nothing to do with sports bill let me explain something to you fatherhood has battered Billy. And. Oh, it's God bless for Bill. I forgot what you said. But would you say more so? Put it on the poll at Levitard show.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Off Mike, he just went off. What has battered Billy's life? So it's Mike Ryan. A source around this show. There's a notion around the ACC that Billy has been battered by God bless football. Put it on the poll, J Drew, at Lebitard show. What has been worse for Billy's life?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Fatherhood or God bless football? It's not fatherhood, it's the greatest gift in the world. Yeah, I understand what it's like. But what it's done, what it has done, Billy only has about so much energy to expand. So if he's watching a fielders choice in the eighth inning of a Marlins game because he cares about a season,
Starting point is 00:35:08 because it started better than any since they won the World Series with that first team, because there was a reason for enthusiasm about what the Marlins were doing. Then they go all in on the trades, they go all in, and now they want more players because Stugots, everybody has a chance in the national league because only the Braves and Dodgers are good.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Everybody else is the Phillies, but the Phillies are better than the Marlins. The Marlins this year have been the Met and the Nath. I mean, the Phillies are 16 games above 500. The Marlins are 500. Phillies are good. What I am saying to you is all year long, what has been happening in the marlins on the field they've
Starting point is 00:35:46 been a bit of a mirage their run differential is not very good when you look at the nationals and the mets they are not a lot worse than the marlins they're not empirically as a team they are in the standings but they're not a lot different as a quality of team the bets are minus forty one the marlins are minus fifty seven and the national's a minus ninety five okay but i'm just sayinglins are minus 57. And the Nationals are minus 95. Okay, but I'm just saying, whatever the difference is, the Nationals just came in here and to end your season. They just came in here and did that.
Starting point is 00:36:12 The difference is that they had a very good record in one run games and had they had, you know, 501 run games at one point then the record would be completely different. And things, you know, cut up to them eventually. And their pitching depth wasn't as deep as we thought it was. Now they're doing, you know, bullpen games every fifth game, which isn't what you anticipated. But I like their bullpen.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I've liked their bullpen all season. I've loved them. They've been fine, but then the clothes are started blowing games and, you know, things just started catching up to the Marlins. Look, they're going to have a much better season than they had last year. No one thought that coming into August
Starting point is 00:36:42 they'd still be in playoff contention. So like overall, I'd say the season has been a success, especially under a new manager. It's just kind of a disappointing end to what was maybe a bit of a mirage earlier in the season. But you had no expectations really, really for this team until they started winning the one run games. And you saw that the rest of the league was obviously weak, which keeps everybody in contention. Well, I mean, also the we're in a tough division and that the braves are the best team in baseball and they're just running through absolutely everyone.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Their offense is insane. They're pitching is good. Like, there's no catching up to the braves. So you're always going to be playing for a wild card spot anyways. You just can't keep up with the braves. And the braves are going to be good unless they somehow messed things up and through injuries for a long time. You said the season was a successful season for the Marlins when Janus Anzacumpo said it was a successful season and they got eliminated in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:37:39 That's right. Yeah I jumped on his back. That's right. Yeah but the expectations were for him to win a championship. I mean the Marlins had no expectations. Very encouraged. I'd be very encouraged. They know how to build a team with the new rules.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I mean, there's plenty of reason to get excited. I'm with a Juju on this, though. I believe that Juju should have a superhero or a pass to call anybody on the show when he hears it, because he's got a big database of all the stuff that we've talked about. He remembers better than most around here. What people have said, and I believe that you should be able to, whenever you want, descend with a hypocrite alert because that is entirely true, what he just said.
Starting point is 00:38:17 That is not how I took that at all. I took that as Juju's saying that I'm on the same level as Janice. Hallert. A Hallert. That's right. A Juju Hallert, I'm on the same level as Yannis. Hallert. Hey, Hallert, that's right. A Juju Hallert, where you get carte blanche to call anybody on the show a hypocrite because of their conflicting sports biases.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Because this show did rip. That's what, look at what we're celebrating around here. Hey, the Marlins are 500, the seasons are success. They lost as much as they want. How often are they around 500 in September? And they were supposed to be doormats in this division. 500 in September and that they were supposed to be door mats in this division Not very often. It was supposed to be stacked. Yes, they're considerably better than the the New York Mets with limited resources I think there's plenty of reason to be encouraged about the future last year
Starting point is 00:38:56 There was 69 and 93 the only way they do worse is if the rest of the season they only win two games nice Can I get ahead of this I'm a hypocrite? I like that same here here. Fire away, Juju. You just took Juju to the segment. It had image aims. You're gonna parachute and you just nuked it by just the conceding that we all are that everyone talking at microphones is compromised. I say you were Dan. You got my ass earlier this segment, all right? I see you. I'm just saying means to guts. We know what we are. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I think I'm clean. That's it. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 00:39:35 Ha! Clean! Of course, you are right. The season is a success because they should have been, look, the nationals won a world series recently. The Braves and fillies are considerably better and would consider it before the season considerably better. And the Mets, I said this the other day, because they're disaster. Yeah, they're disaster.
Starting point is 00:39:54 But if you just take what they're paying former players now, former players, that would be the 17th highest payroll in the league, just the guys that they are still paying who no longer play for them. All four of those teams should have been much better than the Marlins. And we've been able to talk and care about the Marlins all season, that is a success. It is, that's indisputably a success.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And there are only three out in the wild car. They still have a chance here. We're at the like the seasons over. That's what I'm saying. I mean, there is hope. How many teams do they have to climb well don't pay attention to three teams really you're right there exactly billi epler by the way can we talk about him for a second the general manager of the meds that guys a disaster an absolute disaster i'm sorry but i'm not sorry he's a mess and he was a mess
Starting point is 00:40:39 when he was with the angels which takes back to the angels because he came to New York from the angels who has wasted much, Mike Trout, they've wasted Shohei O'Connie. They traded their top two prospects to get pictures that they've then just released, well they haven't released, but they put them on waivers. They're going to lose the picture they got to keep O'Connie. Yes, they just released him yesterday. The moves they made to try to convince Shohei O'Connie to stay, they said, you know what, it's not going to work out. We're just going to put six or seven people on waivers
Starting point is 00:41:07 and anyone can have them for the rest of the year in a salary dump for like a month that's left. There's no way they're gonna keep Shohei Otoni. Like, no way they're gonna keep them. Well, there's no way Otoni's gonna stay there, you're right. You should have traded them at the deadline. They should have traded him at the deadline and they have to know after doing this
Starting point is 00:41:22 that they're not gonna keep him and that's why they're doing it. But to do what? To save a couple million dollars for the rest of the season like what if they what is their plan moving forward they're going to lose their best player they've lost their prospects in an effort to try to keep their player they are going to give trout nothing again who everybody told us was the best player in the history of the world until show how tiny came so they had back to back best players in the history of the world and they can't even have a winning record. Like you're talking about the
Starting point is 00:41:47 Marlins and how like disappointing they are. There's no expectations for the Marlins compared to the Angels. They can't even make the playoffs. They can't even have a winning season. What are they doing? Like who are these general managers that they keep bringing in that don't know how to do anything with this team and with this roster? I don't understand it. Really caring about sports ladies and gentlemen. I don't even care about that. I just don't even care about that. I'm not a team in Anaheim.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I never want to play the run at 11 o'clock at night, but what are they doing? They're in Los Angeles, I'm gonna have to. Two words, dokey bomb. Here is dokey bomb. Let's go. Dokey bomb. bomb Still 12 seconds left
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