The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Harvard Huckster Milks The Cow

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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No, I don't think we can do that on this one. Just because he's still milking from this trough and having Mark Cuban come in, I don't know. Was there any breaking news in this story? I thought, what is Billy shaking his head about here? I don't know what, I don't think this is worthy of that. Is there going to be discipline? Can we get to the discipline portion of this investigation? Not until Pablo gets all of his clicks beforehand

because he's the only information center on this story. No discipline. You get a 90-minute cat fight. I ask a question off air, but I didn't get an answer, so I'll just ask on air. Can we talk about the fact that Mark Cuban interrupted a very important company meeting because he was recording, I guess, like slightly before

and he just showed up in a company meeting when they were recording this, which was kind of crazy. He's just like, look, he's like, I'm Mark Cuban. He's just like waving around it. People are like, all right, Mark, like hit the road, Jack. Like, we've got business to tend to here. I did think it was funny that right about when we were going to start the company meeting, I see Cynthia just point excitedly at a screen in New York where Mark Cuban has popped up in Pablo Torre's office.

And she was just legitimately delighted to see that he was there. And I wanted to say, hey, Cynthia, wrong Cuban. like she we were about to start and and she was just excited that the shark tank guy was wandering around Pablo's offices too as far as I can tell just argue with him some more when Mark Cuban is out there pretty alone although I have some withering criticism of Pablo Torre here that I want to read you guys and Pablo when he's on with us later somebody goes after Pablo pretty hard I haven't seen a whole lot of people going after Pablo I'll look forward to that um I'm at the point where I'm just ready to let this investigation play out. I mean, the Mark Cuban episodes, I argue politics often, too much, many would say. And it reminded me a lot of that. Just a refusal to capitulate, a refusal to give you an inch, a refusal to take a standard logic leap. And I was just like, all right, I got you, Mark.

No one's changing your mind. To me, that was like the most interesting part of this. It wasn't any new information, but it was essentially looking. looking at two people who have two diametrically opposed ways of looking at a story. You have one person in Pablo who looks at the humanity, who looks at seven sources. I don't think you can use that that way, Chris. I think you're using that too strongly, and it can only be used in times when there's breaking news, not just when there's an argument on Pablo's podcast.

You can't use that every time you want Jeremy to stop talking. He has seven sources, human beings. he's making logical leaps from one fan to the next and you're looking at Mark Cuban who is unwilling to look at any fact and link it from one thing to another he's using AI as his research tool literally putting in like ad reads for the AI software that he uses it's two diametrically opposed ways of looking at the world for an hour and a half of yelling at each other this is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast I had not actually read this entire story of criticizing Pablo Torre until right now during that hockey intro.

And I just noticed that this person goes after me too. So do you guys want to hear somebody really criticize Pablo Torre? And then I will tell you afterward who it is. And you tell me whether that person was right or wrong in doing this. Pablo Tori again does what Pablo Tori does, which is get attention for himself. And you guys say correctly, just tell me at this point when the investigation is over. But do you know how rare it is in any time in anybody's sports journalism career for them to be the epicenter of where you have to go for the only new information there is on a story that people crave, but media partners aren't covering the way that a dissatisfied public would like a story cover. So Pablo is absolutely milking this cow.

This cow is being milk even though this udder has stopped giving milk for the moment or the milk is stuck for the moment and it's just Mark Cuban coming around every once in a while and pinching a teet and running off. What are the, what are the teets on an udder? I mean, you said farm machine last week. Well, you didn't answer my questions. What is the thing you squeeze on a cow? That's an udder. The nipples. Those are nipples.

They are nipples. On a nutter? Yeah, teats. There you go. I called it a teat and then it didn't seem like the right word. And then I went to utter and then I went to farm machine. Then I started losing confidence and then you just barked nipples. What's with the farm fascination as of late?

I don't know. This is a late stage like, you know what? When we finish here, me and Val want to go and own a farm somewhere in the country. I can see Dan having a farm. I think you're like the idea of it. No, you could not. I'm not doing anything on a farm. Oh, the chickens. You're going to have chickens at some point.

He was so excited about me planting a tree for some reason. The udders, the entire apparatus, and the teats are part of the other. There you go. We've been applying cynicism to this episode. This is a very good episode because he gets Mark Cuban in studio, and they argue for 90 minutes. And that is very appealing to many. If you're looking for story advancement, there's some of that here. Mark Cuban doesn't really allow for that because he keeps interrupting Pablo with nonsense, really. we want to be good partners to Pablo.

This is an episode. If you like people fighting, go for it. If you want a story advancement, listen to the previous episodes. I would also say if you've only sort of tangentially followed this story, this is a good way of kind of getting all of the information from both perspectives out there, not necessarily in an easy flowing way, but to be able to kind of recap where the story's at. I just haven't heard anyone other than Mark Cuban providing a different perspective. to Pablo's. I haven't heard anything but applause for Pablo, save for Mark Cuban. But the headline on this story is, any investigation of Steve Balmer should center on one dude, Pablo Torre. Good morning, Pablo Torre. Before we ramrod Steve Balmer from the NBA, should we investigate

whether this Harvard Huckster still should be employed in the media business? How's that for a first sentence? Harvard Huckster. The Harvard Huckster is going to join us in an hour and 15 minutes. He accused the Clippers owner of circumventing the league's sacred salary caps through a sorted deal with aspiration. Now, Commissioner Adam Silver has announced that the NBA vetted and approved the green banking company in 2020 mean 2021. What it means in 2025, Kauai Leonard, in signing a sponsorship with aspiration in 2022, did nothing to violate the league's collective bargaining agreement. If Balmer signs a deal with Pepsi, as Silver has said, Leonard can sign a contract with Pepsi afterwards.

Should the league operate this way? Fact is, 30 owners make the endorsement rules, not Pablo Tori. The financial firm crashed, which sends co-founder Joe Sandberg to prison, yet no one cares. The league doesn't demand a probe of all sponsorship agreements. Tori could have informed us before he went ape on the air. He didn't. So the Clippers will continue to perform in good faith at Intuit Dome near the airport, despite a so-called legal investigation that might not end until next spring,

while proving that former Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban was right in trashing Tori on social media. I appreciate journalists who try to find the truth. I do not appreciate journalists who swing and miss and sell themselves as smarter than the audience. Tori has done this on Around the Horn, the second ESPN show he allowed to fade off the air. And it's time his editors at the athletic tell him he's leading the majors in strikeouts. Earlier this year, he reported Jordan Hudson would be leaving the North Carolina football program despite her status as Bill Belichick's girlfriend. She has not left at all. Yet Tori never apologized, nor will he apologize for Balmer.

He will continue to wait until the playoffs and in a law firm decides the league was right. By then, he'll be finding out something else that may or may not be true. Tori should probe all 30 teams. What else would he find? He will say the league has a lucrative deal with ESPN. Seriously. Baxter Holmes is a journalist more trustworthy than Tori. The problem with Pablo is that he has worked for Dan Lebitart, who urges him to chase people.

That is a weekly meeting in this person's defense. That's the one that Mark Cuban Crass the other day. It's calendared. Yeah. Who we go in after now? Cracking a story means you must know the entire truth before going public. Who helped bring Toray and Lebitard to Metal Arc Media? John Skipper, who left the ESPN as president after cocaine scandal.

I'm beginning to know where this is from. Oh, boy. Any guesses from someone other than Mike? Any guesses who the author of this story is? I think it was Armando Salgaro. A good guess. It is not Armando Salgaro who wouldn't care at all about Around the Horn fading.

Who is Jason Whitlock? Yes, Jason Whitlock. No? No? Oh, that's a shocking. That's shocking. Shocking. Same category of disgraced, jester fool.

Jay Marriott. I was got to go. Whoa! I was got to guess, Jay! Wow. Because of the Around the Horn thing. Yeah. I had to search the entire internet

to find one person. who was willing to take Mark Cube inside and go after Pablo Torre. He really loves you, man. Yeah. Well, I think Jay is hurt, by the way everything ended for him at ESPN. That's one way to put it. Why? How did things end?

Jay has been writing things since then that suggests that he's a bit embittered that others are having some success that he's not having. Careful. We do have that weekly meeting, Jay. Might chase you. You would not like what we find there. You're next. Web crawler, web crawler search on that one, pal.

But, Lycos. If you're Pablo, though, honest question, honest question, because he got criticized for this on Jordan Hudson when he kept going to that click well. And when you think of, I don't know, do you guys even know what the technical definition of a muckraker is, like an old-timey muckraker? He's the modern, in the modern age, applying new school journalism principle. and old school journalism principles, he's trying to do what is popular in the internet age with young people while applying old newspaper standards. But it can be viewed as muckraking if you'd

like to. He's certainly not afraid to stick his face in with his facts on any argument because he believes the facts are on his side. But I ask you, if you're the only one dominating a story, if that story makes your empire, the business you're building, stronger and stronger because people keep coming over to just you for the information. Like this is a super rare thing where only one person has information that a segment of the audience, hundreds of thousands of people really crave and aren't getting anywhere else. Well, like, if we're going to treat this criticism seriously, I would appreciate if you're going to attack someone's journalism by doing some journalism of your own.

Jay has those chops. He doesn't offer any journalism of his own. He tries to poke holes in Pablo's by just taking the side. of the man. Even Mark Cuban, admittedly, in this episode, does his own journalism? Has people reach out to him to have a counter-argument?

Just to say, just to dismiss Pablo's intentions and dismiss all the journalism thereafter, without doing any of your own, is lazy even for Jay. Pablo. Put it on the poll. Who has done journalism less recently? Dan Lebitard or Jay Marietti?

Because you say he has those chops, I ain't seen them in a long time. I don't know what he's been giving his opinion for a long time he hasn't been doing the reporting on journalism in a really long time I mean the the point of that whole thing is to take shots at Pablo you and and I guess the journalism there and defend Steve Balmer that's another thing I just you got to be a real weirdo here to just cape up I understand why Mark Cuban is because he's an owner he's of that class everybody else that is not an NBA owner why are you rooting for Steve Balmer here let me let me sl you down on this though because that because you hate media that much. That part I found curious at the beginning, but people backed off. Like at the beginning, I found really weird the number of people who didn't want to believe the first story. The first story was an initial backlash against the media and a weird defense of the seventh richest man in the world. But after that, all of those people except Mark Cuban and Jay Marriotti have gone away because Pablo keeps hitting people in the face with a fish. And it's just an assortment of facts that can't really be disputed because he's reporting facts. He's not really giving his opinion here. How is it? Can you explain this to me?

Because this has happened in the last few years. It kind of snuck up on me the same way two football games on Monday night did. When did that start? That's just the new norm. It's probably the fourth time this season it's happening. It's happening again next week. That means more of the Monday Night Football Weeks are double-headers now. That's 7-15 or always sneaks up on it.

It's just a doubleheader. I like it. I don't hate it. No, I kind of hate it just because I'm worried about Chris Fowler. You can say no to one assignment. I feel like if we just say no to one, the throat will settle. I don't know and miss the announcement on when they decided to give us two Monday night games. I used to think, oh, there's been a weathered, something weather related or a suspension

or some sort of scheduling calamity that makes it so that there are two Monday night games. I didn't see the announcement that we were now going to two Monday night. games? Is it because they just want to give ESPN more games than they're a better partner with ESPN? The NFL now owns 10% of ESPN? Is that? Well, like, what's the reason for this? I mean, they're paying more now. The Bucks are playing the Lions on Monday night. That is a great game. That is a perfect standalone Monday night football game. That game is kicking off at seven because you've got Texan Seahawks kicking off at 10 p.m. after that. The Bucks have played on Monday night twice this season, both of them, this doubleheader format. I used to think, okay, we're

taken in data like the NFL Europe thing like let's see how people react and then you're 15 years into the experiment and you're like okay this is just what it is now and for Monday night football it feels like this is just what it is now the majority of the season's going to be double-headers there's also games in Europe every single week like through mid-November now like every Sunday there's a.m. game east coast lord's time zone because every week there's a game in Europe I do believe this is our first 10 p.m. one all the other ones I believe have been 715 8-15. But how much is this going to change and I was not aware that we were changing this. I understand the logic. What's better than three hours of

Monday night football, six hours of Monday night football. What's better than some football, more football. What's better than just Monday night football? Football on Thursdays and football on Sunday morning and football and football and football and football on Thanksgiving. I understand that they want all the time slots, even the time slots that haven't been invented. But I am confused and do think it's at least partially diluted that there used to be one game we were all watching on Monday night and now I got to have two screens if I want to watch all the games being played on Monday night. Well, that's the thing about yesterday.

Yesterday there was a 7 o'clock starting like an 8.30 start or something. So they were both being played at the same time. At least this coming Monday it's staggered somewhat so you can watch both games. But 10 o'clock game can honestly start 1130 or 12. That's fine. I don't care about missing my way. Billy, I feel pretty confident. Texan Seahawks, 10 o'clock.

We're not going to make it. Oh, no. Start that game later so I don't even see the start of it so I don't feel like I need to stay up. Not going to make it. In terms of being wrong, was almost introduced to Mark Cuban being wrong when he announced that football was headed to a saturation point that would eventually end up with us wanting less football. He said that about 10 years ago during the concussion crisis and that has not happened. It's just more and more football everywhere. And there's stuff from the games last night that I do want to talk about

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Our Panther group chat, we're not afraid of the lightning. That's a tagline for World RR3. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. We'll have Pablo on and we will read him, J. Marieti's criticism. The Harvard Huckster will join us in about an hour. But locally, we've got to have. handful of stories that I want to get to that we haven't had time over the last few days to get to. So I will ask you guys which from among these is most interesting to you as a group

because last week, and we haven't been talking about inner Miami soccer all that much, and when we do, we're generally just talking about Messi. It's the only thing that we discuss around here as it regards to this team. But Jordi Alba announced his retirement after signing an extension and he is one of three signature international names that this team outside of messy has had outside of messy correct and that was weird that struck me as weird what didn't strike me as weird and we didn't talk about this at all and we should have this was I aired here Eric Spolstra being named the head of team USA while being from the video room across the street here, the longest tenured coach in the NBA, and in a GM survey, the coach

that 52% of the GMs, that's a lot to get to get that kind of consensus on something as subjective as coaching. 52% of the coaches in the NBA say Eric Spolster is still the best coach in the NBA, even though last year he called a timeout he didn't have at the end of a game and cost them the game and had probably his worst year ever, I think. I think it was worst year ever. And that shows in the numbers because I believe last year he won it with 60%. So like whatever happened this year, they are people holding that time out against them at sea. And then I want to get to McDaniel saying Tua was wrong. So from and the Panthers lost last night. Ryan Hart scored a shorthanded goal. I thought they were going to beat Philadelphia

when they got down 3-2 and then they started allowing empty net goals. And I'm sure Roy was crushed. He thought they were going to go undefeated this season. Yeah, 82. Oh, no. Yeah. That's exactly what I thought there. Which one do you guys want to tackle? Which of the four is most interesting. I want a feast on the dolphins. Yeah, the Jordi Alba story. Like, we can circle back to that with Greg Cody in here, my beloved football lover in Greg Cody. I'd like to chew on that story with him. Where is he today? I was expecting him. I was expecting him and Stugats today.

Where is Greg Cody today? Greg is at the doctor's office, finding out whether he needs to have surgery. He will be in tomorrow. And Stugats is there for emotional support. Greg Cody's knee is hurting and he's probably going to need surgery there, I would think. The way that he was walking yesterday would suggest. to me that that's not something small that he's got going on. Tony said yesterday that he could probably just rehab it. Well, that's that. Oh,

yep, that's it. We will have Tony's top five somewhere from in South Florida later today. What do you have for me on the Dolphins? Can you get for me, please, the Mike McDaniel Sound? I'm surprised that all of you haven't brought up anything yet today on Nick Wright's poker game last night, where he

was offering, if he did well, $5,000 for the shipping container. Roy, you were not here. He was offering $5,000, for the shipping container if in a big poker game that he had last night if he ended up winning big money that's one of those things that doesn't show up on a 1099 exactly so how are we to verify any of that or ask him like hey how'd it go you know yeah he could be lying but he did kind of offer it to you guys do you guys have video because he did send us some video here we should get that I know he sent Chris Cody at the very least some video about how he did but I'm surprised you guys have not already asked me today how he did, given that there was going to be $5,000 split among you that was just free money that Nick Wright offered to give away yesterday. Yesterday was kind of confusing because I think we're still all trying to sort out the

cars involvement and the financials of the situation. Are we trying to acquire a car, take Nick Wright a car? Then there was a doubling down, I think, and someone mentioned escrow at one point in time, and it seemed as though the bets were being escalated to being long-term bets. So I think everything's still being sorted out. Well, I don't think it's being sorted out. I did indeed wire him money that I was hoping and expecting would end up in the shipping container because I owe him this money.

And now I only have two outstanding debts. Let's see if, Roy, nobody here knew the answer. I have two outstanding debts around here. Bets that I have not paid off in my lifetime. One was mentioned yesterday. And I don't remember what I lost. And I think this is a contrivance of Mike Ryan and others just to get me to pose like Prince Fielder on the body issue, swinging a bat nude. It has been reported by you guys that I owe that bet, but nobody remembers what it's for, and I'm pretty sure you guys are making that up.

And I don't need to pay a bet, even though I went to a dollar store to buy Prince Fielder's body tattoos. I don't have to pay a bet unless you guys can prove that I owe it. But there is one that still gnaws at me because I don't like to owe people anything. There is a bet that I made on the air years ago that I did not pay and have not paid that I still owe. It still bothers me and no one can figure it out. Certainly somebody in the audience knows this. It bothers you just do it. Well, it requires me getting on an airplane and running in a mascot race.

On an airplane. I feel like I'd remember this one. I don't have to run. The race would not be on the airplane. Did you dream this? The mascot. This is not a real song. No, Roy.

Roy, do you have me running in a mascot race? on the aisles of an airplane. No, running to the actual gate. I don't know, Dan. Took you very literal then. She's been on a long time. You used to be able to do that. Yeah, don't pin Roy down here.

You're the weird one. What bit is this? How am I? You guys still don't know what I'm talking about? None of you. I do. But I know that you're talking about a mascot race at a stadium, I presume.

In Milwaukee, yes. I bet Matt Mitreone that he would not beat Kimbo's Slice. Oh. In a UFC fight. And I don't remember what the state is. were for him, but the stakes for me were that I had to, he must be from Milwaukee, right? Like, I'm assuming that that's the reason he was putting me in. Lamington, Illinois.

Okay, I don't know why it was then. I don't know why he was putting me in some sort of sausage costume. Chris, are you listening to what Nick Wright left you now? He left the voice message. We'll send it to video so that we can all find out together how he did in his poker game. But before we get to that, let's play the Mike McDaniel sound. if you're not familiar with what Tua did, he basically volunteered after that Chargers loss, and we all reacted kind of the same way to this, like, ooh, that's not leadership.

Greg Cody disagreed, but most people thought that Tua saying, volunteering, that his players, his teammates were late to a player's only meeting, it ended up somehow becoming the talking point that was even larger than the dolphins losing the game. So Mike McDaniel had to address it yesterday, and he does it in his meandering style, which everyone has gotten tired of because it often includes words chosen incorrectly. Like it often has words in it that he's trying to use that he thinks mean one thing, but don't mean what he thinks they mean. You know, regardless of an intent and, you know, what was on to his mind,

after a loss as the franchise quarterback, that's not the forum to displace that. I think he knows that now, I do honestly believe it was not, there's no ill intention, but you're talking about, you know, I think kind of a misguided representation of player orchestrated film sessions. And, you know, the bottom line is no one's going to be happy and always is looking for reasons for failure. to succeed. So you're trying to look for reasons that, you know, you can attribute to losses and there's a, you know, heavy as the crown of being a franchise quarterback. There are a number of things in there I want to get to, but what is the phrase he used misrepresentation of player organized film sessions? Is he saying that those weren't

player only meetings, that they're being filed as player only meetings by Tua because people are late for them? I think he's saying, he called it a players only meeting. It's players run film sessions. Like, I don't know if there's a difference there. Yeah. If you're reading between the lines, maybe Tua's insinuation is that, you know, it's a lot stronger. Your attendance is more strongly recommended when Mike McDaniel's saying, like, this is just like a group film study that they did on the side. I didn't take it this way and I'd be interested from a reporter who covers the team. What I thought Mike McDaniel was saying there, even though he used twice as many words as he had to use in order to say it, is that Tua called them

players only meetings because they are meetings that only the players are in. But it's not the emergency players only meeting that you call when there's a panic and you want to make sure that away from the coaches you're doing things that not even the coaches do to hold you accountable. I think that what Mike McDaniel was saying there is, these are just film sessions, some guys showed up late, and now Tua is calling them players only meetings. And when you say they're late for players only meetings, you're creating a, you're furthering dysfunction that we've for a year around here where people think I'm not in charge, we're not

in control, and the players don't actually care. But there is no, to his point, there is no difference in, if we all agree we're doing a film session that no coaches are part of and you're late to that, that's the same look as a player's only meeting. Like, that's not good. That doesn't mean everyone's bought

in. I disagree. Given that these guys are all at the facility for 12 hours a day and that it's given that the whole thing's a military school, there is a difference to me between a film session and somebody and to a call to players only meeting to me there's a difference between those two things but the way the coach explained that i don't know what he's talking about when he says it's a misrepresentation of players gathering but it's the least interesting part of what

he said there by saying his quarterback shouldn't have done that because now he's put his coach in a position where his coach is publicly against his quarterback and saying the quarterback led wrong there. We eat it when it comes to being accountable as quarterbacks. We do not point the fingers at others. When do you ever see that? You guys tell me, after losses with frustration, you get all the cliches. They wanted it more.

We weren't trying hard enough. Whatever. We've got to explain the losses. It never comes from the quarterback in a way that makes the coach, you have to address it the next day and makes the coach and the quarterback look like they're not aligned. Give me all the examples that you guys have of in a professional. press conference. Like, there are a bunch of shitty teams in the NFL. There's only one with a quarterback who has his coach this week coming out afterward and saying, my quarterback said the

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I may take it one step further. Wait a minute. You're getting sexier by the moment. Slow down. We haven't even gotten. Stugats. Jason Sanders, you're on notice. Oh, wow.

Oh, my God. What in spite of him. Oh, ho. I love you, Duke. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. It's making everybody in town crazy, day. I don't know if you've listened to local radio. It's a fun scan.

The Big Dog. You know who I'm talking about, right? There's only one big dog. But he's not even anti-Tua. He's just getting trolled here by his brief. Yes, but it's making everybody crazy because no one can actually agree on what's being said here, but here, courtesy of the big dog. We'll go look at his numbers. I know they're terrible.

Okay. A bad, bad example. Okay. All right. Hey, we got to go to break here. We got more time. Don't throw me in with Omar. Don't throw me in with Omar.

He says dumb-ass stuff. Not Omar. He does too, but the two of stuff. Like, I'm tired of our writers defending every time he says something. You spent the last 10 minutes defending it. They feel like the PR thing. Anyway, what? You spent the last 10 minutes defending him.

I'm not bitching him. You want to bench him because you sound like a bitch. You're talking about bending. You want to bench him because he said something stupid yesterday. That's not the reason. That's the reason. I told you weeks ago I want to bench the guy. And I told you weeks ago they're not benching him.

Yeah, you also told me they were going to beat Carolina and you told me they were going to. Don't throw the other topic in there. They did cover yesterday, though. So you won there. And by the way, again, this is not just a two-a-thing. It's not just a two-a-thing. We got a defensive problem. Okay, Omar.

Chargers had 400 yards. You don't want to hear it, dumbass? You just, we're here. You listen to what you want to listen to, Woody. No wonder your wife wants to punch you in the face half the time. Hey, right now, I want to talk to you about air, around the clock, air conditioning, and plumbing. Around the clock? No wonder your wife wants to punch you.

He's still doing it the same way, and I love that he's still doing it the same way. Hey, right now I want to talk to you about air around the clock, air conditioning, and plumbing. He's still got that fastball. Now, the fastball may have always been 93 miles per hour, but it is pain in the black. 1997-93 was another thing. No wonder your wife wants to punch you in the face half the time. Chris Cody said the other day, and it really brought, it brought what I'm going to call sheer delight into my life from a different time.

felt a little bit like eating those Hampton Farms, Peanuts does in terms of taking me back to my youth. Chris Cody comes in the other day and just volunteers to me. I wanted to punch the radio on the way in because of what the big dog was saying about Jonathan Gannon. Yeah, it was him and the producer. They were on the same page with you can't yell at a guy anymore. And I'm like, he hit him!

And they're both just like, come on. And like, what happened? Back in my day, you could yell at a guy. I'm like, he hit him! I'm like shouting at my, I wanted to call in. I wanted to find out Hollywood's number so I could text them. put it on the poll at lebitard show do you still shout at your radio do you think his wife does want to punch that they probably made that part up no this is that's his move when i that the part

that made me smile is uh what he does in his pivot which has been his pivot for 30 years which is some form of how are the ladies treating you the ladies hate you or the ladies love you those are like that's it don't wonder your wife wants to punch you in the face half the time hey right now I want to talk to you about air around the clock, air conditioning and plumbing. Billy, does it, you are moved sometimes when DJ Las, DJZaz would be a totally different creature. DJ Las, the pimp with the limp, is on the radio or Kenny Walker is on the radio. Does Joe Rose still do this for you locally? No.

No, not really. I mean, he hasn't not been on the radio. He's just been on the radio for my entire life forever. So it's not nostalgic if I hear him even. I've never not heard him. It's just always there. You've outgrown the entire Joe Rose experience. At one time, you did care what Joe Rose was saying about things.

Did you not? Or you never cared. I think we always cared how he said them. That was always a thing for me with Joe. It wasn't what he said. It was how he said. Oh, you hardened media veterans now. never had a soft spot for Joe Rose yelling at the radio before it is that you yelling on the radio

before you became graduates of the radio and therefore you never you never were interested in anything Joe Rose was doing here locally when he was dominating the entire market I used to be a coworker Joe Rose I have always been more into Joe Rose for the ad reads I like Joe Rose on TV Joe Rose on the radio was never really like my thing I listened to footy in the morning you don't want to hear it dumbass I don't have a bad thing to say about you, Mr. Rose. You're a legend, and you have a huge head. Have you ever accused him of, in your area and field of expertise, painting his hair black? Yeah, I mean, he's kind of falling off a little bit, a little bit more salt than the pepper. But, yeah,

I mean, he was a TV newsman for quite a while. Yeah, that's what they do. The Eric Spolstra story of him leading team USA. I don't think that we should just because he's the longest tenured coach in the market. And I guess to many people listening to this, he's an old guy now. But he started in this organization as somebody who started at the very bottom of the organization. We talked to Kevin Harlan last Friday, and I did not know that he started as a ball boy. Mike McDaniel started as a ball boy for the Denver Broncos. it's not the most common thing to go and arrive at all of your dreams by snaking through Eric Spolstra's loved basketball all his life, snaking through the entire system so that you're now

the coach of Team USA, you're replacing Greg, you know, Greg Popovich, Mike Shoshavsky, this is the top of your profession where you're honoring your country and quiet as it's kept because he's Filipino Jackson, another country where he has enormous support, enormous support, because he is representation that you do not have in leadership in American sports very often. Eric Spolstra is a giant pillar now from the video room across the street, like from fetching errant free throws for guys who are shooting free throws during practice. He goes from the very bottom rung of the basketball ladder over his career. to somebody who is now representing us worldwide as the face and voice of, you know,

one of our proudest Olympic teams. And the origins you talk about in his career, the real rarity is that it all happened with one organization. Because you mentioned, right, McDaniel, a ball boy with the Broncos, but you end up in all of these different coaching spots working your way up the ladder. The thing that's the craziest about Spolstra's experience is that it's all been here from the jump. It's all been under Riley's wing, and now he's blossomed into this coach that is the most well-respected coach in the league. And now leading maybe the greatest United States team

that we have, maybe outside of gymnastics, it's so impressive. And I mean, it couldn't happen to a better guy. The thing that is interesting about what you just said, the nature of the tenure, the nature of the stability. We just talked yesterday about James. James Franklin, who was, I guess, 34 and 8 in his last 42 games, and how quickly his job security vanished when he's one of the longest tenured ones. It does really make me wonder whether we'll be allowed to see another story like this, whether there will be organizational stability enough anywhere that you can just withstand that 17 games into 2010, LeBron doesn't want you anymore as the coach, and you have the backing right behind you of the president

who's saying, no, I'm not going to protect myself. We're seeing this with the dolphins, okay? What's happening with the dolphins is no one wants the blame. Why would anyone want to be the one responsible for it's all falling apart? I think James Franklin fast forwards everything in college sports, makes it all the more professional because even as it was expected, that's one of the guys who had some sort of security. That's one of the highest paid guys 12 years, and I'm going to say it again, 34 and 8 is last 42.

That doesn't lose a lot of jobs in America. Like that record I can put at any, maybe Alabama, maybe, maybe. But 34 and 8, you don't lose your job. And we've just, we've changed all of the rules by throwing money at it. So who's the next guy? It's not just throwing money at it. It's people throwing money at it. If guys like boosters and guys and girls like boosters were funding Mike McMcCher's,

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