The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Ken Le Batard Show

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Happy Halloween! Dan is Ken, Lucy is the Ghost of Iowa's Offense, the rest of the show is...a disappointment. The crew reacts to the Heat's loss to the Bucks last night and their 1-3 start to the season. They also break down the huge news that broke overnight: James Harden has been traded to the Los Angeles Clippers. Then, the Florida Panthers are "banged up," Stugotz is going to celebrate Halloween without his kids, Lucy shares some thoughts from Florida-Georgia, and the ACC schedule release has Mike Ryan asking some questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertor Show with the Stugat's Podcast. I am truly embarrassed by this company's Halloween effort. What do you mean? Truly embarrassed. There is so little effort being put in here into Halloween costumes. There was a notice sent out that there was a Halloween costume contest today. Now I've got to salute the people in video to whom.

I saw it in the slack. It was in the slack. It was. A lot of channels in that slack yeah like please uh... what do you think of the what are you supposed to be right now you've got just a furry brown thing on your head i have no idea what you're

aspiring to it's not obvious uh... kwasi uh... the uh... the lion that stars in the pride of a lion the new book dropping December fifth and now available for pre-order at Amazon, and wherever you buy your books. What is that about? It's about the, it's the life story of the first male lion ever born at Zoom Miami, run McGill and I collaborated,

and the book in pre-sales pre-orders is doing really, really well, we're super excited about it. Chris Cody, what are you supposed to be? I'm just first, I'm a fork in the road of course. Oh, you. You're wearing a shirt with a fork on it. Yeah, well, there's a road way. You're second place.

You're, you're, you might second or third place right now on costumes here. First place for me. You're a thief, as always. Well, Lucy, what are you? The ghost of I was offence. Yeah, I think you were. You finally got some relief on I was offence. Why are they waiting until the end of I was off and you finally got some relief on I was off and why are they

waiting until the end of the season to get rid of Brian Ferrent because they went over Kirk Ferrent's head to do this. Well they had to. They had to do it. Who cares, I'm free. Today is a great day. It's the happiest Halloween ever. What is the over under? I was playing North Western this weekend. What's the over what's the total in that game? I think it was 30 and a half last time. I saw 29. It opened at 29 and a half. I'm going under.

Lucy, I'm going over. I'm going over. Lucy has given me Iowa unders all year, but not this time. I can't do it. I'm taking the over. Should be noted that there was really bad call. There was a baseball game at Riggly this season that had 29 runs in it. We will not hit that. Not a chance. Mike, what are you just someone wearing?

I'm just, I'm just dressed normally. Yeah, I didn't see the aforementioned slack, but I would have ignored it anyways. Nice hat. I'm not, thank you. Yeah, available at the Greg Cody show. Merch. I'm not King Shaman here, but dressing up on this show is, you know, I reserve that for a bucket of death punishment. I'm confused. We've just passed my dad giving him some sort of victory. Where the main is usually not above the head of a lion. This is a lion as a Russian babushka. Yeah. Right.

So we're combining cultures here, but it's Kwasi. It's Kwasi. Kwasi. Yes. Thank you. You'll meet and learn to love Kwasi in the new book, The Pride of Alliance. Can you guys put up, please, on the screen, that kid who did Mike McDaniels as a costume for Halloween.

Oh, that was great. Yes, he's. It was pretty good. The sprinting off of the field away from the camera and half time of one of these games. I think we also have, can I, I have not seen yet Randy Johnson as a bird. The best costume I've seen since I was a child.

I saw some beside a bird. It's a couple's costume. The big unit. I'm Braxton Garrett if you were wondering on a Saturday. This Randy Johnson costume is the best I've seen. Yeah, that one. I'm Braxton Garrett if you were wondering on a Saturday. This rainy Johnson costume is the best I've seen. Yeah, that one. I killed a bird once. Yeah, that wins the day so far. What, what are you doing? I am the Patriarchy. Oh, so you're Ken. Oh, you're not going to see that anywhere else.

I'm sure that's going to be everywhere. And somehow I won the contest here in the room. What? You think ghost of Iowa? and somehow I won the contest here in the room. What, now, go see if I was, no, go see if I was offense pass and Babushka lie in there. They're wanting to. That can't be true. Everyone's doing Ken. Also, did you not get the memo from SAG? You're being a scab right now.

I did not get that memo. I did. Did you give yourself first prize? Well, it's just, look look look at what the room I mean It's not it's not it's not in the road you're doing you're doing can Lucy easy first place Babuska the lion second thank you Mike. I'll take second. I've been second my whole life You don't deserve second. I don't understand your costume the ears are in the front Lions have ears in the front.

The last time I looked, you're right. You would explain your lions. Where are your ears? They're on the side of your head. You're no lion. I'm going to have difficulty the entirety of this show. I'm just lion to keep the ear earphones on with the cowboy hat that is too small for my head and too high on my head. Looks great.

And I'm unlikely to keep Stugat's attention at any point today because he's distracted by NFL trade deadline stuff. Deadline day. There was a trade in the NBA last night. James Harden got traded and many of us learned the two or three players in that deal were still in the NBA. I knew only because I saw a box score earlier this year when when Kawaii Leonard was banging on the floor angry because Russell Westbrook took the last shot with two seconds left.

I just looked at the box score and I realized that Batum was still in the league. He was in this trade last night. Who else was in this trade? Marcus Morris and Robert Covington, for me, really drove it home. How does James Hardin always get his way? How does he always get his way? Because he does messy without caring

about who he's offending more than anybody else. But can I do like the play the Miami Heat victim? Yeah. Damien Lillard didn't get his way. And the reports were true. Initially, you got killed for calling it a spite deal. It was a spite deal. They said that they were going to send him to Miami.

But then the agent started acting in a way that made them say, no, Miami, not at all. We're just going to make this a spite deal. James Hardin's agent is amazing. Why didn't the Sixers treat the Clippers the way Portland treated us? Huh, what? Because didn't he say he wanted to go to the Clippers?

Yeah, well, I guess part of it is there were no other takers for James Hardin. That's not that that was the thing for us too. But there were very clearly other takers. He's in Milwaukee and Brooklyn was also in it and the agent after being told there's a hard line We're not sending him to Miami the agent started working other teams. It's just it is crazy that James Hardin is Going to be remembered as this malcontent that is never happy and never wants to stick around his force more trades and all the other superstars

You want an MVP? Combine I understand I'm agreeing with you by the way way but part of his legacy is he he forced more trades he requested more trades then all the other superstars of his era combined and he got his way every single time another clippers become even more interesting they have koaliner they have paul george they have russet westbrook and they have james harden i keep thinking they're going to be interesting and they haven't been interesting they have't been interesting. They have not been a legitimate contender. The most exciting that team was was the day they

surprised us with the trade for Kawaii Leonard, the move that got Kawaii Leonard and Paul George. They haven't had a more interesting day since then than that one, but now they add a bunch of components together. You're like, how does this work? If already I've seen more emotion from Kawaii Leonard at the end of the game because Russell Westbrook in a panic situation was just grabbing an offensive rebound and doing a turnaround air ball jumper. You got more emotion from Kawaii Leonard at the end of that game than you saw when he beat

the Sixers with one of the most dramatic shots in playoff history. Just stood there. No reaction really. And I don't know. I don't know. Actually, he had fallen onto the floor at that point. So he wasn't he wasn't standing there. Yeah, but he didn't do much. I mean, you know, act like it was a big shot. It was a big shot. You know, he didn't seem like he was too thrilled with it. You don't remember.

I know. You're just faking it. It's just a while, though. You're just faking it. It's just a while, though. You don't remember any recollection of what you're talking about. I'm lying. You had him standing up. Yeah.

You didn't get anything from you. I remember it, Daniel. You're not the right. It's your personal truth. Thank you. It's your personal truth. Thank you. It's your personal truth. It's your personal truth.

Thank you. It's your personal truth. Thank you. It's your personal truth. Thank you. it's the only thing he takes seriously. Thank you. The Miami Heat have started the season one and three. Jimmy Butler doesn't play the fourth quarter last night. Milwaukee smokes them but the heat made it a little closer. Once Jimmy Butler left the game, BAM did not play in the basketball game. And I'm just assuming at this point that everyone who's listening to this

based on last season understands that there's just gonna be a bunch of missed games from players on the Miami Heat that they're going to just, they're gonna take this regular season as something that allows them to just get into the playoffs if they can get into the playoffs But they're not gonna be worried about much else. Is it possible? They're just resting everyone up for the big midseason tournament

That was Friday that was weird not to put them back in that game last night like I get it You ride the hot hand for most of that fourth quarter But that run kind of ran out with like three or four minutes left. And I thought you were like within six or seven there. All right, you let these guys do their run. Now put Jimmy back. At least Jimmy, maybe if you leave the rest, it was just weird to see Jimmy just sit there. Something about those bucks that last year, they gave some games away. Yannis, not wanting to go to the free-throw line.

I know after he air-bulled one, he started making them at the line. But they kind of give the feeling that they're going to do that a lot in the fourth quarter and let teams back into it when they shouldn't. Miami had a really good look from Tyler Hero who ended up having a good game, but he's got a berry that wide open three to cut it to a two possession game. There was a shot there. Joe which was playing well, but this is a frustrating start and I understand what Dan is doing by saying, well, it'll just be like last year, but they're worse than last year. They, you're hoping that guys like Jovich and maybe Tyler, heroes of finished product, maybe he's not, but you got to keep hoping that guys

ascend and continue to develop to be able to improve year-over-year. Right now, if we're just looking at additions and subtractions, I know Gabe Vincent's off to us. So, sorry. But, Shruss is playing well. Let me stop you for a second. When you just say they're worse than last year. They are.

Well, you think so because they've lost Shruss and Vincent who weren't critical players a couple of years ago. I'm assuming, and I think this is a fair assumption to make, you've seen Jovich play, you've seen Juan Wick play. I'm assuming that they'll be able to replace it Caleb Martin's not even playing that much this year like these guys Caleb Martin was important during the playoffs but you weren't expecting anything from him before he signed that contract last year. I understand

they made it to the NBA finals. I'll preface that. And I was way wrong about them last year. There were one point win away from being Owen for this year. And they got it. They were three minutes away from being eliminated in the plan by Chicago last year. I think meeting this season with scrutiny is fair. A hundred percent. I mean, it's not just failing to get Lillard and they did fail to get him I mean you can talk about a spiked deal or whatever but bottom line is if Miami makes more of an offer and includes zero

Lillard's here right now and there are much better teams not to mention a more exciting team because he don't very exciting right now. That's not the bottom line the Portland wasn't dealing with Miami like that's not the bottom line. But who's fault is that? That it what is Miami's fault for how they handle the situation fair enough fair enough and what Mike is saying that it's fair to bring scrutiny of course it's fair to bring scrutiny what is not fair to do after four games is say that you know there were sl in last year when they were an eight seed last year like I don't know that there were softer for games I can't make that determination

yet or the teams that they're chasing better. Yes. Undeniably. Yes. About better. That goes into it. Yes. Caleb's been out and Josh Richardson just came back for the first game last night.

So they have, I'm just saying, the pace. But maybe you're mentioning. Dude, they're peaking. They need to be pieces for them. You're about to wait a minute. You said the season hinging on Josh Richardson and Caleb Martin is what I am worried about. You just said Max Truce.

No, Max Truce is gone. These guys are all in the same realm that you're talking about guys hold on is like they're one in three Micah's and they're not as good the roster is not as good micah's every right to criticize what they did in the off Season and say they're not as good as they were last year. I'm not they went to the finals saying he doesn't have the right to say it I'm saying after four games It's too early to make that assessment as if you what, when they weren't very good last year, like the entirety of the season, they weren't very good. Is Jimmy looking good to you this season?

Why doesn't play? How many games in Kenny say it? Just because you... 14, right. No, it's game 82, right? That's what it took last year. I was saying it all last year, and with three minutes left against the Chicago Bulls,

I was right. They went on this miraculous run and yes, any bit of analysis that comes with talking about this Miami Heat team should always mention that at any point, because they've proven it to you very recently, they can get hot and peak at the right time. But you look at their roster and you're just kind of hoping for some magic dust to be sprayed on them and play off Jimmy happens and you can upset these teams that have gotten better since then.

You can obviously make all of those assessments and I would not call them unfair. They believe their team is better and deeper. I tend to, after four games, give them that benefit of the doubt until I have seen more. That's what they know more than I do about this. You may indeed be right. They don't look very good. I mean, the Detroit win wasn't anything special. They barely eat that out. Yeah, it fell apart once they put the starters back in. There's plenty of cause for concern,

but the good news is there's a second trophy now that they can chase and Maybe they were saving Jimmy's legs in that fourth corner for the big wizards playing in game on Friday Don Lebatard. We get some golf. They have some are stugats. Oh This is the Don Lebatard show with the stugats Still got It starts on Friday it's a mid-season tournament. We're five games in well the the final Still bit all of it dumb you haven't I don't like it you haven't looked it up once no no my deal Give it 80 games to go. I did look up the Kauai final shot. You know, he never hit the floor damn It hit the front rim.

He bent down, try to give it some body language, some English, you know, like, get in. You know, what you do, like when you're standing over a big puck, rank and it's like, he hit the floor after Russell West, he, he, he never hit the floor. All right. Look at us. I mean, I just asked to go on. He was happy though. Stugants, you say you don't like the play in tournament. Go ahead and give us any

Information that you have on the plane it starts for I day ugly court to play in term ugly play in tournaments something different Do you guys know anything about the format? Do you know anything about the format? No, no don't care The early the early portions of the tournament count against your regular season sandings So like they play the wizards and it's essentially a two competition game the NBA regular season sanding. So like they play the wizards and it's essentially a two competition game, the NBA regular season, and also accounts for mid-season tournaments. The late season portion of it doesn't count towards your record? I think once you get to the Vegas portion, it stops counting. Wouldn't you be incentivized to lose this so you get more rest? I mean, you win it because you win money and you win a trophy. So you're incentivized to play in it because you get additional money and a trophy.

I'm not doing this. God, I just, I do know that. I just, everyone wants rest and you could just get more rest by not advancing the third one. Why would you be incentivized to not do that? I'm here to seem to talk about and we just don't get anywhere with. And it feels like we're having the same conversation about the Miami Heat for these last four years and their frustrating team will say other teams got it done continually and they're they're getting the guys.

You're saying continually other teams get it done while the best team in the East the last four years has been Miami. That's what you're saying. They're frustrating team to watch. They're the best team in the East the last four years. It's an indictment on the East. that the Eastern Conference is is weak again and they can probably get away with that. The Panthers certainly can't. The Panthers can't afford the rest guys. They have to go forward every single night because it's difficult to make the playoffs in their sport. The heat of proven that they can just kind of coach. As Pat Riley himself has said, the Jimmy Butler era has been a success but they haven't

gotten what they wanted. So it's fine to reach the finals a couple of times but they're far from that now. Nobody thinks they're among the top tier anymore and the NBA is trying to make time management a thing of the past, right? They're trying to get their stars to play more and now they're instituting this in-season tournament to get players one more excuse not to play in the regular season because they're resting for this mythical ridiculous title. Is BAM out of bio in his physical prime tired after three games that he couldn't play last night

against Milwaukee? Can that be possible? Why isn't BAM out of bio at age 26 or whatever, not playing in the biggest game of the early seasons? It was a back. It was because it was a little hurt. He's a little hurt. He's not one of the guys who rests.

Okay, is that, is he hurt? Or was that an excuse not for him to lie? He was hurt, Jimmy wasn't. How reckless it was in Minnesota. Jimmy wasn't in Minnesota. No, I'm not asking. I mean, Pam doesn't have the injury history where Jimmy was definitely just let's rest them which is what the Indian is trying to stop it's bands hit by the way

It's a hit games out. Let me ask you a question about what Janis said the other day because This caught me off guard. I was legitimately surprised by this perhaps I shouldn't have been Janis and I don't know whether this was before or after he signed the three-year $186 million deal, just said flatly, it's Damien Lillard's team. I don't think very many champions who have been the number one option on a team would say that. And I was just surprised that Janis offered that that and I didn't know is he just being humble superstar guy is that authentic like I've what I've seen from Janice so far seems authentic but is he just saying the thing he thinks we want to hear

is he trying to make a Damien Lillard feel acclimated or does I think that's it. I think he's trying to make Damien Lillard feel good. Janice knows very well that it's his team. That's his organization. He knows that. I mean, Lillard went there, I guess, in large part because the heat couldn't get it done and because who wouldn't want to play with the honest. This was a quote from Janus five days ago after signing his extension in which he also said, no, I never forced the organization to give me this extension. I never put any extra pressure on that. We know that that's not necessarily true.

It's the first time in my MBA career that I didn't know the number that was attached to my contract. Yes, he's doing the Humble Superstar athlete thing when he's saying Damien Lillard, it's his team now. Right. He's welcoming the veteran player. It's not to the new city.

Oh, that's the way I heard it. But it's fine. It's a team now. Right. He's welcoming the veteran player. It's not to the new city. That's the way I heard it. But it's fine. It's a nice guy thing. He's a super sorry that stayed. He's a loyal guy and he's just playing the part. But none of you guys were surprised by it then. You're just, you're just, I don't believe him. That's fine.

And you can say that. He's surprised he lied. Well, who do you think is going to be taking the shots at the end? I think Yannis is going to be dying for Damian Lillard to take the shots at the end. That's why they brought him on there. And the last, the most recent basketball I've seen from Yannis would suggest that at the end of games he doesn't necessarily want to go to the free throw line with good reason. And Damian Lillard can be your closer. That's why they went out and got him. You can be the closer of the team and not be the face of the team.

Are there a lot of examples of that? Are there a lot of examples? Yeah, Chris Middleton. Chris Middleton, same deal. They would go to Chris Middleton in the close games before. But he would never say that Chris Middleton and then it's Chris Middleton's team.

Now Damien that comes in as one of the top 100 players in league's history. I mean, he's got to say all the nice things about him. Is there another player off of the top of your head? Because you've caught me off guard with the saying of that, where it's your team, we all think it's your team, but somebody else is doing the closing. Like, that doesn't strike me as something I have seen

a whole lot that I can remember the history of that score. Yeah, Shaq and Kobe. It usually comes with guys that are a liability at the free throw line. Right. You know, the other team's got a resort to fouling that person at the end of the game, and you need someone on the perimeter that you have faith in Shaq and Kobe. And it dissolved that relationship because it ceased being Shaq's team. Once you started deferring more and more to Kobe at the end. With the spurs, didn't Manu and Tony Parker get the ball?

That's great. Genobly was coming off the bench and he was closing games for them. But Duncan was the closer, wasn't he? I mean, I just said, Genobly was coming off the bench, closing games. You need somebody on the perimeter. Duncan was a much better free-throw shooter than Shaq ever was.

But you usually see it with poor free throw shooters. The game last night with the panthers and the Bruins, do you suffer early season losses? You go up to nothing, you lose and over time, you got to be happy getting a point against Boston. Most dangerous, most dangerous lead in sports up to zero. And you could have handed boss in their first regulation loss. Boston comes back force over time and then win it after. You probably should have put a goal away and it leads to a breakaway. But for me,

the crushing part about last night's game is it's a regular season game. You're kind of happy. Not a lot. Only one other team has gotten points off boss in this season was Sam Bennett finally comes back into the team and then immediately gets hurt and it looked bad. It looked like it might be, we'll get word on it, but just from watching it, tell me if I'm wrong, Chris. It looked like that could be a season under for Sam Bennett and Sam Bennett was immense for the team in its post season runs the last few years. He's one of those guts guys that you trust. He gets under the opposing team scan.

He can get a dirty goal for you. That is a huge blow if they lose Sam Benefer in an extended period of time considering that they're already pretty banged up. On the bright side, Bob looks decent. He had some good saves late in the game. But it's really, you're not going to get a feel for this Panther's team until Montor and that black get back.

But I saw yesterday that they're going to try to sign Montor and forcelling which is encouraging because that's those guys have really been our defenseman can we discuss for just a second though because I don't think we should become numb to it even though it gets said all the time in sports to gods what Mike sports, Stugots. What Mike Ryan files as banged up would keep all of us out of work. The injury report after the Panther season last year, and they had less time to rest than most, the injury report, when you read all of those guys, and they had like a single healthy torso on the entire roster by the end of the season. When we say the 49ers are banged up and they go from looking like the best team in the league to party looking like he can't play

because he's had three injuries in 15 days. Like we've got, I mentioned this the other day, Bosa has a broken toe, a broken big toe. He's not using and the... Three generate all your force from the path. The needles, the needles on the foot are really, really awful. He's not doing pain medication. It seems like a hard way to do that job when a 350 pound person steps on that foot with his cleats. Should be noted that Paul Marie said Sam Bennett was walking around after, but what does

that mean? He's a hockey player. He can be walking around. What does banged up mean? What does banged up mean? He's a hockey player. What is there injured mean? I don't know.

It looked bad when you watch it, but would it surprise me if he plays the very next game? No, hockey players are crazy. Yeah, that's's I noted it. Don Lebatard. Many of you by the way are writing in and you're saying, Dan, quit being so mean to co-hosts that you always deem incompetent. That's the formula, man. Me being mean to the co-host is what allows Stugots to take a very wealthy vacation right now. Still gods. It's a winning position for everyone, but me.

Have you guys not figured this out yet? That's the whole thing. Is me being rotten straight, man? As everyone else gets to be incompetent, then I yell at them for being incompetent. And here's the miracle of it. And it's the magic elixir. Bad, which is the only thing Greg Cody can be, becomes good and lovable. And it's because standing next to obnoxious strident me makes everyone look that way.

And the brush with death helped. Yeah, that was planned by me. The whole thing was contrived. VCC dan lebertar show with this two gods. How dare you point out that they're going be kens all over the place when that is your costume today, when you put that little effort into what you were doing today. A nice hat is what it is that you're wearing as your Halloween costume. Yeah, right. I have a four year old.

I reserve the dressing up for her. Like, I have, he gets it. He gets it. Yeah, exactly. It's not lost on me that, I mean, I know you're a fork in the road. That's amazing. That's a great creativity. But, you know, Sioux has his kids

out of the house. Yeah. Greg has his kids out of the house. I got a whole thing tonight. I'm saving myself for that. Same as Billy. Thank you. What do you guys, what are you guys doing tonight? I've been Buzz Let Your Every Night for the last two weeks. It's tonight. I'm gonna be for that. Same as Billy, thank you. What are you guys doing tonight?

I've been Buzz Lightyear every night for the last two weeks, and tonight I'm gonna be Buzz Lightyear again. So forgive me if for one day at work, I don't wanna be Buzz Lightyear. I dress up every day at work as someone who's happy. I'm gonna be Bluey's dad. What are you going to be tonight, Mike? Jack the pumpkin king.

Ah! My daughter's gonna be Sally. Nice. My dog's gonna be zero, and my wife got stuck with Boogie Woogie, man. Stugots, do you miss wandering around your neighborhood, getting drunk on gin and tonic so all the kids run around and they have to drag daddy home

at the end of the night? What makes you think I'm not gonna do it without the kids? You're kidding. You're out of the house. How do you just gonna want you're just gonna be an adult wandering the neighborhood by yourself with a drink. I'm going to take the golf guard, a big G&T, little gin and tonic. You're not going to do that.

What do you mean? That Abby will drive. We'll drive around the neighborhood. Andrew Brunette video. I know. Abby will drive, a little G&T, big cop flanagan's cup, and probably a gummy. I mean, I'm looking forward to it didn't be nice didn't bill Murray also get arrested for a DUI on a golf cart

he might have was it a golf cart or lawnmower like it was a horse was a horse horse he was in England i think you can get a DUI on all of those things i'm pretty sure you can't the uh... the country singer George Jones once got arrested for DUI on a writing lawnmower And and Nielis's say wrote a song about it. Bill Murray Got a DUI charge on a golf cart. Yes Can you just look out for me DUI on a horse and see what comes up just said like It happened to someone

and see what comes up just like, like, it happened to someone, you're right. It must have, it certainly, it must have happened to someone. It happened in Florida. 53-year-old woman was arrested on charges of DUI on a horse and animal neglect. This was in 2017. Lucy, I know we've got some video from the world's largest cocktail party.

Georgia has fixed all the things that ale Georgia when they were scoring three points at the half against South Carolina, whatever it is that was working. But before we go to that video later in the show, can you tell me about your experience up there? Was it better than most? Because that's supposed to be a bigger party than the average college football party.

Yeah, it was far and away the best tailgate I have ever been to in my life. I have a feeling I don't think we're gonna top it again. Everyone was so drunk, Florida fans, especially more drunk, but it was something unique because when we went to Tex-Soclo home, there wasn't a ton of tailgating, but even at the state fair, there was no intermingling between Texas and Oklahoma fans. They did not talk to each other. It was very weird.

Florida, Georgia, everyone was just having a good time. Everyone was drinking Florida, New, what was gonna happen. Georgia, New, what was gonna happen. So they were gonna enjoy the tailgate and then Florida fans would leave it half time. You don't think Florida thought that perhaps by some miracle, they do the same thing at home that they did the Tennessee, that, it was in Jacksonville.

And it's always had a neutral site there. Yeah, okay. And Georgia has pretty much owned the series as of late. I think it's five straight years of winning this. Florida fans were not. The really drunk ones were very optimistic. The slightly drunk ones were like, yeah, we know what's going to happen. They were upset with nothing though. Oh, yeah. That was a lot of fun. That was cool. We spent a lot of time before the college football season talking about how it seemed like some things had evened up. And here is Georgia not losing, and there don't look to be a whole lot of other super teams.

I mean, it's Alabama. Michigan? Michigan looks good. They've had a weaker... They're going to enter a stronger part of the schedule, and they might have been cheating this entire time, and we don't know what kind of advantages they got, but Michigan does look good. It's really odd that no one ever says Florida State.

Florida State's good. Yeah, number four. Well, it's because the games against Boston College and Clemson were so close. Yeah, people are right. You're gonna have those over the course of the season that you're gonna need to survive. Washington's just survived it and back-to-back weeks

and they still feel pretty good about their undefeated season for Florida State. It just so happened to happen really early in the season. just survived it and back to back weeks and they still feel pretty good about their undefeated season for Florida State. It just so happened to happen really early in the season so it tainted everybody's perspective of them. I don't know if they look like a team that's gonna run the table and finish with an undefeated season, but they gotta

crap load a talent, they're good. It happens this time every single college football season where it just starts to naturally separate itself where teams that have played really, really well start to struggle like Washington this time every single college football season where it just starts to naturally separate itself. Where teams that have played really, really well start to struggle like Washington and teams that may have not looked as good in the beginning of the season like Georgia start to excel. It's just like sort of the natural order of things and it's like the perfect time where the Pac-12 starts to cannibalize itself.

We understand that Michigan's the best team in the big 10. Like I can't imagine the college football playoff rankings that we see tonight are going to be too crazy different than what we see in a few weeks. What I'm interested in with the college football playoff rankings and with the Heisman Trophy voting is you have the human element in all of this and what kind of bias is Michigan going to be met with because everything that is swirling around that program and at this point there is like at least three things. And I think it's gonna hurt McCarthy's

a Heisman campaign, I really do. And I think that you're gonna see voters lashing out at them because this isn't computers making the decision. But Mike, if they were on the table, Beto, Ohio State, when the Big Ten championship game like, they will, but. You can't keep them out.

But I feel like that the Big Ten, I think, has autonomy here when it comes to what the NCAA can do in terms of punishment, but I do think that the NCAA is going to take this opportunity to make an example out of Michigan because this is one of those things that is fairly easy to get people on its side. If they wanted to get involved with NIL and recruiting, you'd face a masterbelly, not just from the fan base,

which is new because the fans would always want the NCAA to come down on these programs, so we're paying players. But now, in this new age, you're going to have just schools threaten the NCAA. You come after us, we're going to take away your easy money. But this is something easy for new leadership in the NCAA to drop a hammer down and get everybody's support behind. I know that Michigan has looked good early in this season, but none of you would be surprised if Ohio State beat Michigan. I would. I mean, I'm anticipating both.

It's hard to go undefeated in the big 10. And I think the resumes, certainly that Ohio State is put up, Ohio State can survive a loss in the regular season and still be in a mix for CFP. We all know the conference that's going to be the ACC. I want to talk about ACC scheduling through 2030 in a second, but outside of maybe Marvin Harrison, have you guys seen a better receiver than FSU's Keon Coleman? Washington has two good ones. Yeah, but Keon Coleman. I mean just passes the eye test. Did he have two one-handed grabs?

Yeah, it's not just that. It's just it yes when he's not a kneltucker recruit by the way when he's got a defensive back pasted to him He still catches the ball because he's just, he's a basketball body. They have really good receivers. Wilson's also really good. I like their tight end. Travis has been around since the Obama administration. It seems like that's, that's a team that you'd want to trust. However, can you trust an ACC team to finish a season undefeated? You look at that, at that schedule, you could argue that maybe the harder part of their schedule is over, but they do have two rivalry games one of them is actually at

Florida Miami in in terms of the trenches. They haven't been blown out really this season just yet that's a rivalry game So maybe that's the the conference law said they get I don't think it's gonna be a pit Virginia Tech in the ACC Championship game. That's not we don't know that's so ACC this This year, if you're an ACC fan, you see the head-to-head splits and it's not going to matter. The ACC's record against the big 10 and the SEC is good this year. And it's not going to matter whatsoever when it comes to deciding who gets into this college football playoff. And undefeated FSU should be in the top four. I think we all expect that today. But if they drop one game here, the ACC's reputation of cannibalizing itself is going to come back to haunt them. No one's going to care that you have a good record against the other power fives.

That LSU win really great at the time. Doesn't feel as good now. LSU's defense is horrendous. The Duke win good at the time. Riley Leonard didn't play for most of that game. Like Florida State, I think it's past the I test, but the schedule doesn't feel as strong as it wants to. But Lucy, that changes.

If LSU beats Alabama this weekend, suddenly that becomes a better win. It does, right? Yeah. LSU's defense is so bad that I really do not think they're going to beat Alabama. They're very, very bad. If FSU's already had the luck that you need to make a season special. With the Boston College penalty fest that happened make a season special with the Boston college penalty fest that happened earlier this season with the miss kick against Clemson and the in the

return for a touchdown by their defense. They already kind of survived these and every I don't care who you are. You could be the most dominant team. There are moments in a season where you're like, okay, we had luck on our side. Even if you're a national champion and they've already had that luck. Lucy, at the Florida Georgia game, what was, who was there in mass more? Was it Georgia or Florida? Like, whose fandom did you feel more?

It was, I would say, was 55, 45 more Georgia fans, but it was pretty even most of the time. Georgia fans are insanely loud and insanely passionate. It's hard not to hear, you know, 35,000 people all barking at you at the same time. That was an insane experience. It was like both fan base to show it out really well, but I would say more Georgia fans. We'll get to that video from Lucy in a second, but what did you find interesting about the ACC schedule through 2030?

The fact that they think they're going to be around in 2030? No way. Oh my. My AMU's traveling 3000 miles to Cal Berkeley, which is someone that travels quite a bit with the football team. I'm excited going to Bourbon Trails in wine country with this road.

It's a nice stop for you. Yeah, it is. With this road schedule, I think for me that the thing that I'm happiest about, I was really confused when I came, the ACC made this rule that you'll get three permanent rivals and you'll play those permanent rivals every year. And Miami's permanent rivals, where FSU

makes all the sense in the world, Boston College, okay, we were in the big east with them and there was the Flute bomb, okay, and Louisville, which they're playing a trophy. They're playing for a trophy. The Howard Snellenberger trophy. And it's just, it's bronze cowboy boots. And that one didn't make any sense.

They were, yeah, I guess, Big East ties, I think they were in the Big East, in the same time for a brief period, and then they moved to the ACC together. That made no sense. Cowboy boots. Yeah, it should have been a Muhammad Ali cashless clay type of thing. Or if you're going to bronze anything of Howard Snellenberger,

make it a pipe. Yes. That makes more sense. But one thing that I was upset about with that ruling and very confused about was, okay, and with Carolina, feels like that's been a budding rivalry, but they have so many tobacco road rivals. I get why that call was made.

Why is Virginia Tech one of our permanent rivals? That has been a 25 year rivalry. The games are good. They always mean something. Virginia Tech was pissed about it. And what happened with this schedule drop was Virginia Tech went from not being worthy of being one of Miami's three permanent rivals to making the cut for two.

And now Miami will play Virginia Tech every year. So the sync that Virginia Tech made about not playing Miami worked. Virginia Tech and Miami are the best chances to beat FSU in the regular season, because it's not going to be bad. Well Virginia Tech doesn't play them in the regular season. You're going to have to wait till Charlotte for that one, and... you