The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Loneliness of Not Sleeping

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

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This is the Dan Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I'm lucky. I don't sleep, and last night was the perfect night for me because there was so much going on over the weekend trying to figure out all the different things I wanted to discuss The problem with the loneliness of not sleeping is who am I gonna call? I went down the list Can I reach Roy is there any way to get to Billy or Jess or Jeremy? Who's gonna answer my texts and I must must tell you guys that I went over. I didn't contact any of you.

I was about to say, I didn't get a single text from you, buddy. What time are we talking here? This was approximately, so my night was, I got to Miami, check into the hotel, and then White Lotus. So I watched that till about 1046, because I didn't start it directly at nine,

it was an hour and a half. Then this was about 147, approximately when I wanted to reach out. And the reason I remember is I was thinking, maybe I could reach out to Dan, who's in a different time zone, but then I just swallowed my phone. It's like a ref swallowing his whistle.

Did you have anything interesting to say, or was this just loneliness, like, hey you up? Well it always starts with hey are you up? But I think it gets interesting talking about what order to talk about stuff. Like I wanted to start with- So you wanted to talk about work. Yes.

At one in the morning on a Monday morning. It seemed important because we were going on air in only seven hours and 13 minutes. And so I was calculating in that remaining time, can I get through everything that I have to get through? And again, I swallow my phone. You made a good decision. Dan would have texted us for sure. So Dan does do that.

He's been told not to. He's really trying to improve on that. But I actually see. Yeah, he's trying. He's totally trying. No, no. He are you still getting- Is he? No. Yeah? He's trying. He's totally trying. Is he? No, no. Are you still getting the 5 a.m. emails?

Yes. Because he learned how to schedule emails. Wait, what time did you get the email the other day? That was 3.47. Eastern? Eastern. He promised me that he would schedule emails. How long ago was that conversation?

It's been three or four days. Maybe three or four days. Yeah. All right. So then we're good. It was before that. Oh, there's a whole new sheriff in town.

It's all about the scheduling. He had a funny thing that he did when he scheduled something. He doesn't like to interrupt Nothing Personal, which is done at 8 a.m. live this morning. Of course, he texted the entire nothing personal show and I didn't respond.

But he's also potentially in a different time zone and so he said, I'm gonna send an email, but you won't get it. It's scheduled eight o'clock, don't look. It came at 11 o'clock Eastern. He scheduled it for eight o'clock, his time zone. If you're gonna tell me you're sending me an email at that point, just send it. There's no point in the warning that you're going tell me you're sending me an email, at that point, just send it.

There's no point in the warning that you're going to get an email. I was wrong, it wasn't 347, it was 345. Do you not like the text that says, are you free? No. You just want the phone call. You want the phone, right off the top, just call me. Yes, absolutely.

See, I was taught by people younger than I that they like the warning first. Like, hey, can we talk or hey, are you free? It depends. If it's one of my good gal friends, just call me. So for me, I'd have to do the warning text. If you called me out of the blue, I'd be like, huh. Ooh. That's how you do it.

Huh. I'd be like, what's this about? If Billy called me out of the blue, I would be like, uh-oh Uh oh. Yeah, something written wrong. I'm not a caller. I don't really like call people. I'm more of a texter. If Jeremy called me out of the blue, I would just hit ignore. Yeah, I get that. So everyone you work with is either a huh, uh oh or an ignore. Yeah. No, if Taylor called me, I'd be like, what's up? Hey buddy. Hey Taylor.

What about, what about Nick came from OG last night. Oh man, he's been playing so well the last couple of weeks. It's such a great list we could make of who we work with, who gets what when a call comes in or an email, anything from the ignore to what's even worse, which is the uh-oh, or for me, the worst is what you did with me actually, Jessica, which was the, ugh.

Like that made me feel terribly lonely and upset. The uh-oh is a confusing description. Like I feel like, and I don't know, I feel like Jess doesn't hate me, but the uh-oh was like, oh, if he's reaching out to me, things must be bleak. I think there must be like a work emergency if you're calling me.

I've actually called you before with stuff that was going on. I called you about a story, but I did the text. Yeah, so I'm saying if you just call out of the blue, it's like a, oh, like, oh, that's not good. I wish it didn't have to be that way, especially last night, especially knowing all the different topics.

I don't know how to lead with anything other than the nonsense we started with with Ovechkin. It's history. We could talk about obviously what happened to Duke over the weekend and we will, we should. We can talk about, because I think we have to, let me check my contract. I have to do LeBron and the Cowboys and the Heat

and the Marlins and the Dolphins. It's fine print. Very fine print. Well, Panthers too, don't forget that. And we have to do Panthers. And tomorrow we have to re-litigate all of those topics. No, no, well, you may, but I wouldn't do that. No, we have to talk about UM basketball.

We could also do that. But 2023's team. Yeah, that's right. I like doing Ovechkin. And the reason I wanna talk about Alex Ovechkin is that I am a sucker for watching things that never happen, that I expect never to happen. It's why I rooted for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.

I wanted to see the three-peat because I've never seen a three-peat. When I was lucky enough, and this is a total hit the button, which someone else will do, I went to Gretzky's last game ever, and it was really cool. It does not mean, I was in New York, I didn't fly for it. last game ever and it was really cool. I was in New York, I didn't fly for it, it was there.

But the thought was in New York and certainly in Edmonton that Wayne Gretzky, the great one, the GOAT, that record will never be broken. I think that there are records that we view as those that are untouchable and the goal number by Gretzky to me was one of them. And then Ovechkin out of nowhere, he's getting closer and closer. Just for fun, do you guys know who's next to break Ovechkin's record active?

What's your number one guess? Probably Sidney Crosby, right? You'd say Sidney Crosby. And then you'd say, how far away is Sidney Crosby? Maybe... Give me an over, I'll give you an over under. 150, 200? 273.

So now let's say that Sidney Crosby is better than Ovechkin in scoring. He's, let's say he's McDavid. Let's say he scores 60, 60 goals a season. Get me an age on Sidney Crosby. 37? Yeah, just about, yeah. Roughly?

Does he have five more years? Five more years of scoring 50 goals? No, not 50 goals, no. It's out of the question. There's no chance. We watched a record last night, and I kept thinking about the business of the record, because Ovechkin did it on the road.

They could have sat him against the Islanders and had him come home and break the record because Ovechkin did it on the road. They could have sat them against the Islanders and had them come home and break the record. But the Capitals are playing for something. They're playing for home ice in the Stanley Cup. They already have it. Aren't they behind Winnipeg? Yes, they are behind Winnipeg. For the East though, they got home ice. Right, but for the Stanley Cup, they got to catchnipeg. Yeah. So they got a reason to win. And so they're going out there trying to win it. So of course you play Ovechkin.

What we do when we have a player who has a chance to break a record, we actually give them the choice. We would ask, we had spoken to Echero before his 3000th hit, do you wanna play in Colorado? Do you wanna wait till you're back in Miami? And he said, put me in coach. I wanna win the game, I'm ready to play.

Asshole. So I, that's- Wow, okay. That's really, that's not Ichiro. Ruined everything. Of all the words to describe Ichiro, that's not one thing. I wasn't talking about him. You talking about me? I'm not pointing any fingers, just saying.

Wait a minute. Someone involved was. I'm sorry. Did Jagger retire officially? Cause I feel like Jagger still has a run in him. Yes, I believe he retired. He's in Europe right now. I think I saw him playing in Europe at the age,

isn't he 58? He is not 58. How old is Jagger? He's free up there, but he's not 58 years old. Is he older than Gordie Howe? Well, no. 53? He's got like two seasons left.

Gordie Howe's dead, by the way. But Gordie Howe scored goals in the NHL, I believe at 52 years old. Yes. How is it that someone, I'm 57, I can barely get out of bed and forget getting on skates, but can you imagine the possibility of scoring a goal in the NHL at 52?

Jagger's done, he'll never score again on the ice, in the NHL. Yes, in the NHL, he's not doing that. Billy. Yes. Yes in the angel. He's not doing that Billy. Yes It wasn't me. I'm not blaming you. It's time for me to tell you the truth I'm adding because I'm really hate on Mattingly. You do not I hate him. How do you hate that? He's now now you're just being argumentative. No, I don't like him Donnie baseball Please Donnie Mattingly is one of the great players, Hall of Fame players, short of back issues. Longest tenured manager in Marlins history.

We didn't fire Mattingly when we could've. I know, the only manager I wanted you to fire and you guys refused to. Jeez, couldn't do me a solid. I really liked firing managers. Constantly taking out pitchers when they're middle of no hitters, guy. What is it that you liked the most about firing managers?

That there would be an opportunity for improvement. That the dream could be alive. So it wasn't about the feeling of knowing you were ending their tenure? Like it wasn't the benefit of knowing that their job was lost. It was just knowing that there was a future ahead of you. It's a carrot.

I always felt in baseball. That's more human. Over those 18 years, I always felt in baseball. That's more human. Over those 18 years, I always felt like the dog at the track. I always feel badly for those dogs. Of course you go and you bet on them and it's horribly inhumane, but they're always chasing that thing

that goes around the track. I think is it a carrot or a bunny? A rabbit. It's a rabbit? Yeah. Literally it's not a real rabbit, it's a metal rabbit. No, no, no, yeah, a mechanical rabbit, yeah.

How mean is that? They never catch it. You want it to not a real rabbit, it's a metal rabbit. No, no, no, yeah, mechanical rabbit, yeah. How mean is that? They never catch it. You want it to be a real rabbit? No, I want them to be able to catch it. Like, for winning, you should, instead of winning money just for your owner and for the fans who bet on that dog, shouldn't that dog get the rabbit? Yeah, it'd be awesome. The race ends and then they throw like a real, like, rabbit on the track

and now it's like, have at it, dogs. You won. Yeah. The two dog got the rabbit. Wouldn't that show the other dogs that they ought to be running faster? Yeah, but then if they find out it's a fake rabbit, they're not gonna run as fast next time.

Do they know the difference? Well, no, that's why you throw a real rabbit on after the race and you sacrifice rabbits, elderly rabbits that are on their way out. Yeah. With terminal disease. Honestly, you're putting them out of their misery. Yeah, exactly. that are on their way out. Terminal disease. Honestly, you're putting them out of their misery. Yeah, exactly right. I'm talking euthanasia.

Exactly right, rabbit euthanasia. This would be the ultimate thing in dog racing. I don't like any of this. The PETA people won't have that. Do dogs still race? I thought that dog racing kind of went by the wayside. No, it's a whole thing. Really?

We did, when I was a summer associate at a law firm, they took us to a dog track and we were told that you always do the trifecta two, one, five, and that it will hit once during the course of a day of races. How long ago was that? In 1991. Wow.

Is that before Jessica was born by chance? Well before Jeremy and I were born. So I was in law school and in law school you go to your summer associate at a firm and they do like events in order to woo you to, it's a bait and switch. They let you go to a dog track and a race track and baseball games,

cause then they work you 100 hours a week once you get the job. So it's ridiculous. So you go to the dog track and you get a coupon like for a drink, but it's your own money if you want to gamble. But we were told 215. And so you bet the trifecta every single time and wouldn't you know it, 215 hits almost every time. It's a little bizarre, almost like it's fixed, Almost like the rabbit's fixed. This is great advice on something that I don't think any of us in this room

are going to do or would advocate for at this point. But I appreciate having the knowledge. I mean, I don't go to Highly. A couple other people go to Highly. Do you bet on Highly? Yeah. I would have to go to Highly. Highly is like, at least like my experience with Highly here

is it's very similar to like your experience at the law firm where it's like, oh, come on in and here's some free money to bet and then you can leave with free money. But on the way out, why don't you check out our casino and oh, you want $80? That's free $80 you can spend in our casino today. You might as well drop it on red.

I mean, I won $400 at a Dina Highly. Really? Yeah. Doing what? Tri-F400 at a Dingham Highline. Really? Yeah. Doing what? Tri-Factor. Oh wow. Did you report it? Was it two one five?

No, it was not two one five. You don't have to report that. There was an eight in there somewhere. I'm not giving tax advice to any of you, but if you don't deduct your losses, you really don't need to declare your wins. On the slot machines though, they give you an actual tax form.

If you hit a big slot win at a casino, but if you put a thousand dollars or a million dollars on black and roulette and win, they give you the chips, they give you the money, you don't fill out anything. But on slots you do. I mean, you would think that would be pretty noticeable when I'm winning that much money. Probably I would have to declare that I owned you.

The greatest example of someone doing something noticeable and not declaring was the first ever winner of Survivor. When everybody was watching, a guy named Richard Hatch, won Survivor in 2000. He was the one who was naked on national television, and he decided to take the million dollars and not declare his income, and he got caught and convicted of tax evasion.

Of course he did. And because they didn't withhold it. You're supposed, listen, if you withhold, which is what you'd get with a normal paycheck, there's tax withholding, you still have to file your taxes. And you still have to declare what your income is. That idiot didn't do it. Well what was his thinking, that he won it abroad

and they gave him the check abroad so it wasn't income for the US government? Survivor had just started. It's the same thinking as the people on the Price is Right who were betting a dollar, who bid a dollar on the showcase and then win. And you know how they always say, the retail value of this showcase is 14,469.

You get taxed for that. So just FYI, like remember when Oprah gave a car to everybody? Ties to the car. You can't take that car if you can't afford to pay the tax because it's taxed. I imagine we'll talk about the White Lotus season finale later on in the show, but there was a noticeable thing

that happened that made me think, hmm, what if the IRS finds out about this? But again, we'll wait till later because I know everyone hasn't seen it yet. You know, a lot of people on those home renovation shows, they end up losing the houses because the value goes like way up. They can't pay the property tax on it. And it's like, wow, we fixed up your house and now you're homeless.

They're amazing people in Florida who for a living, they actually will help your property tax bill go down. They take a percentage of it. Do you guys do this? If you're homeowners in Florida, they're, they're tax assessment lawyers. And if your house is worth 600 grand, they'll make it so your house is worth 300 grand. Sure, that's not a scam? No, these are legitimate.

These are legitimate lawyers. It's done. The players, we all did it. It's not a scam at all. It's approved by the state of Florida, the Department of Revenue of Florida. Totally legit, but they take a cut. Might have to look into that.

Every house down here is worth like 800,000 now, totally legit, but they take a cut. Might have to look into that. Every house down here is like, worth like $800,000 now. So you should 100% take a look. There's a way to fight what your assessment is. But when the home renovation comes, it didn't occur to me that that is one of the things that comes with it. Like the price is right. Also, a lot of the people end up leaving without the prizes

because they have to, they have to like pay or show that they're gonna pay on the way out. And they're like, oh nevermind. I had this great moment but now I don't get any of these prizes. There's shows that I think I've read, I don't remember which shows it was, where they give the prizes and if you can't

and you're like in the audience you can be like, yeah I'll take that prize as long as you're gonna pay for it. I need to look up which shows offered the prize. The prizes were up for grabs. Do you think it's like the boat in the prices ride? I always laughed at that when they go out and there's this big boat that someone wins.

What a headache. I would never, like, I don't want a boat. I want to know someone with a boat. Well, no, it's like you win a boat, but you live in South Dakota and it's like, oh my God, I won this boat. It's like, great, what am I gonna do with this boat? Sell the boat.

If you can afford the tax and get that thing. How do you take delivery? I always thought about that, that you have to handle the stuff that you you can afford the tax and get that thing under there. How do you take delivery? I always thought about that, that you have to handle the stuff that you win on the Price is Right. It's one of my favorite game shows, but you really have to be careful. There's a great documentary about someone

who was gaming the Price is Right. I watched that, it was very interesting. He had like a massive database of what everything costs over the history of time. He was wronged. I mean, he was punished for studying and doing research and just having all of the information. I've had a major issue with that.

I don't like punishing people who do extra work. That should be rewarded. The fact that he's willing, there are people on Survivor as an example, who practice the puzzles in advance, they build 3D models, they're doing all sorts of stuff, and old school Survivor players are upset with them, and I'm the opposite.

I think it's the greatest thing ever if you're willing to do that. I tried to sit in the driveway, I tried to make fire before I went on the island. I had flint and a machete. I don't understand how there's people that still go on Survivor and don't know how to make fire. Like, you know that-

It's harder than you think. But you should practice it. You know, and especially if you get to the end, it gets down to like a fire making competition towards the end of Survivor. So there's people who have been on the island for 40 days, 36 days, whatever it is now, and haven't practiced at one point in time,

had no plan on getting there, what they would do if they were in that position. You actually do practice before filming starts. You go to the island and there's a whole pre-show and part of that is making fire and making shelter. You know those palm fronds that you have to weave them and you do it by hand? It takes a lot of practice and you have hours,

days, a week before the show starts and you have to learn how to do it. And I could never, I'm terrible at that kind of stuff. So what would you guys do? You'd go and you'd have like, okay, it's time for survivor school today and they'd take you out to survivor school and then you'd go back to like the four seasons

or whatever and they're like, all right, in six days. It sounds like the beginning of the training in the Hunger Games. They're setting you up to just send you out to slaughter. So as a matter of fact, you are at a resort but you're in a tent on the ground. So you can start adjusting to living outside. And you're-

Like FireFest. And you're in, well, except you're told in advance what it will be like, and you don't pay, you get paid. And secondly, it's not survivor school. There's a whole thing. You have to do medical checks. You do mental health checks. You do cast photos.

You do interviews. You meet with the producers. There's all sorts of pre-show stuff that you have to do. Are you isolated from the other contestants? No, but you're silent, you're not allowed to talk. So for me, it was the worst part of the game. They give you books you can read, et cetera. I read Animal Farm while waiting,

but I hadn't read that since high school. And it was really interesting to read. Is it that? Very interesting choice to read right before doing Survivor. Why do you think it was one of the choices? Wow. Listen, they're not screwing around.

I can only imagine the head space that put you in. And you eat three meals with everybody, but it's all in silence. And there's guards making sure. How long is this process? Like, was this a couple of weeks? No, no, about a week. Okay.

I got in trouble. I almost got kicked out of Survivor before I got kicked out of Survivor because I was communicating with one of the fellow castaways. Her name was Sarah LaCina. I didn't know her name at the time. We had never met. We had only seen each other in silence. And our tents were next to each other

and I was so lonely that week with no ability to talk to anyone but the shrink and the producers that I tried to communicate quietly in the tent, but they have guards out there watching and I kept getting in trouble. Yeah, this still sounds like the Hunger Games. And I didn't stop.

So then we started communicating through sneezing where we would sneeze and then we got to say, good bless you. And then we had, we ended up becoming friends. We're still friends to this day. It's all part of my 1 47 a.m. text issue last night. You texted her? Yeah, what's Sarah up to? It's all part of my 1.47 a.m. text issue last night. You texted her? Yeah, what's Sarah up to?

She's on the Central Time Zone. Oh, so it's only 12.47. So that would have been a candidate, except she's not doing the show today. It was really for all of us to figure out where we wanted to go after Ovechkin. Then get on the show, book her. Yeah, let's talk Survivor.

We talked Sarah today. Sarah would be amazing on the show. Yeah. She would 100% come on. She's a police officer in Iowa She's one survivor. I don't know if you know that name And I was the first Jew she ever met. Oh and After meeting you of the Jewish people she's not converting she's not going to temple anytime soon of the Jewish people? She's not converting, she's not going to temple

anytime soon, but she certainly enjoyed meeting me. Okay. I think. Just making sure we're not breeding anti-Semites, you know, with bad experiences or something. No, it's the opposite. Exactly. Pro-Semites. I think we're, exactly, we're breeding love. Is this Sarah that went on to do like the challenge

and stuff? Yes. Yeah. You've heard of her. I have. She ran around the world with me. She's in the Seven Marathons. Billy, do you like her? You've clearly seen a lot of her her work? You know, but more Mattingly, oh wait, do you know what's Johnny Tee ball get out of here Billy you want an intro? No, no, no work seems like the opposite Yeah, no, I'm fine. Wait, he does. I think it feels like I want to do a shit off here. Oh shit off

Was that Yiddish? Yes. You wanna translate that to English? It's a meeting. I wanna do, uh, some sort of connection. I don't like meeting my heroes, and Sarah, I would consider a hero at this point. They'd just let you down? Never meet your heroes. Yeah, you know, I could always aspire and think, oh, what would Sarah do? But if I meet Sarah, then I know what she would do, and maybe I wouldn't agree. Like, I was finding out Sarah was here the whole time

behind the scenes, pre-survivor, trying to communicate with you illegally. So, I mean, is that the kind of person I'm enforcing the law? I don't know. Not to take shots at her as a police officer. Thank you for your service, Sarah, but you know, just something to think about.

If we're willing to bend the rules of survivor, what other laws are we willing to bend the rules on? You're willing to lie and survive even if you're not a liar. You have to. It's part of the game. You have to pretend you're something you're not. I think we're all familiar with that, aren't we? Meh, not really. I know I am. It's sort of like imposter syndrome to the tenth degree, isn't it? Hey everybody, it's Mike. 50 incredible years of Miller Lite. That is right, it is Miller Lite's 50th anniversary and I

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because I can use it as a learning experience for them and try to help them out and try to point out what they did wrong. But in this case, the employee was enough levels below where I was that I did not do the firing, but I had it done within moments of discovery. I like firing people. It's just absurd.

It's absurd. Stugats. I'm talking about people who I fire who deserve it, who have done something that actively requires me to fire them. It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the StuGards. I was thinking about Wayne Gretzky being forced to go to all of Ovechkin's games. Did you watch, please tell me you watched Gretzky present

Ovechkin and shake his hand and give the thumbs up. Please tell me that I'm not the only one who saw Wayne Gretzky with his smile. You might be. No. I was very locked in on, what day was it, Friday, I think it was, when he scored the two goals and he was going for the third

and then he didn't wanna go in because he didn't want an empty netter, but then he went in and they were just feeding him the puck. And I don't know, Spencer Knight all of a sudden, who down here notoriously, Spencer Knight, thank you for your service, but Spencer Knight all of a sudden decided he wanted to play goalie when Ovechkin was going

for number three on him for the night and just wouldn't let him do it at home for whatever reason. So he has to then go and do it against the Islanders. Poor Wayne Gretzky was there and he was following him. That's like Roger Maris's family except the opposite, right? Cause the Maris family, let's be real, you're the Maris family of one thing,

just that record, right? And they'll trot you out, they trotted you out when it was Mark McGuire and it was Sammy Sosa and we thought, okay, fine, we're done. We don't have to see Roger Maris' son anymore finally, we're done with that guy, right? And then Aaron Judge is gonna break the AL home run record and he said, oh, what do we do to celebrate this?

Let's bring the Maris boys out again. So Maris' son is there and he's in Toronto and he's going around the world on this tour again, following the home run chase just to have someone spoil his father's legacy. It's really cruel what they do to the Maris family. They like it because it's, you know, relevance for them. But it's really like, let's come here and watch someone ruin your daddy's legacy

and everything that he's known for. You think that Gretzky was thrilled to be at the Islands game last night? Oh, no, definitely not. Not at all. Despondent. And you could tell with the smile, now he may have been three sheets to the wind.

However you wanna say it, that's not irresponsible journalism. It is personal experience. He's a lush? He enjoys a cocktail from time to time. He's the great one. He's got his own wine label in Canada. Think about what he does.

He's in the business of being Wayne Gretzky. It's an entire business. Every day, you can't escape yourself. You are who you are. And his business is being the great one. And so he's there. Janet Jones, who I, if you know who that is, his wife. Is he just a great one now? He's still the great one to me.

Well, he still has the assistant points record, which is unbreakable. The assist record is unbreakable. The the assist record is unbreakable 1963 assists Wayne Gretzky has and I believe second place right now active I think is also Crosby and I think it's down at like a thousand one thousand sixty thing I mean, it's that's crazy nine hundred assist. Tell me when that record's broken then. Um, goals thing's cool, but Well Gretzky has more assistant the rest of the league in history has points. So there's that. That's unbreakable.

I think you're the. If you're that don't you stay the great one. Do you think that he regrets some of those assists now? Like after his goal record goes down he's like I should have been a little more selfish. Like I really like. Yeah he has assists to spare. Exactly right. I mean he's got 700 of them. Come on really like. Yeah, he had a great teammate. Great teammate. Exactly right. I mean, got 700 of them. Come on, Wayne, put the puck in the back of the net. For that matter, in terms of assists, he has what?

He has 1,963, the most points otherwise is 19,21. So he had like 42 assists to spare that could have been goals. And who knows, what if Ovechkin, you know, tweaks something in the next 40 goals? And then all of a sudden he could have been the goals leader as well. I think Ovechkin, you know, tweaks something in the next 40 goals. And then all of a sudden he could have been the goals leader as well. I think Ovechkin's retiring.

I thought he was breaking the record and he's done now. I don't think he's coming back. So even more, even more to say that Wayne Gretzky really should have been more selfish and turn 40 of those assists into goals. Even honestly, even if there would have been 40 attempts there and even 20 of them could have been goals, right?

Maybe, yeah, 20 fewer points on his career, but still leading in assists, leading in goals, and he never has to worry about the Sovetchkin guy. What a mistake. I'm trying to imagine how that would go with Gretzky, who took more pride, I believe, in his assists than his goals. And you talk about- Still would have been

the leading assist man of all time. I'm just saying. He had an opportunity to set himself up for some more long-term success. Guarantee the great one. And here he is. You know, he's not the great one in terms of goal scoring. I think when you lose this record,

and this can be put on the poll by Juju, please. When you lose the record for all time goals, do you go from V to A? I don't think that that is the threshold, but I don't wanna ruin the poll because people may disagree with me, but don't do it just for disagreeing. Jessica, when you fill out the poll, like don't just say-

Don't worry, I'll vote with my heart. I want you to vote with your conscience. Okay. With your belief system. I'm gonna stick with D. Just give me a hint, Jessica, which way are you going? Give me a hint. My vote belief system. Mm. I'm gonna stick with D. Just give me a hint, Jessica, which way you going? Give me a hint.

My vote's private to me. My vote, my choice is that. You're never gonna tell me what you voted. No, never. I'm just gonna have to guess? Yeah. Maybe I'll text you tonight before 1.47 and just see what you voted.

How many hours before 1.47? Well, given what time you go to bed, it's gonna have to be around six hours. Uh, I might be eating dinner. Probably not gonna text you back if I'm eating dinner, so, and then I'm probably gonna get ready for bed, put my jammies on. So it's gotta be eight hours before?

Yeah. Or are you now just, hey, leave it at work? If you don't get to me by the time we leave work, then don't bother me. Why don't you ask me the next time we see each other in person how I voted, and I'll be honest. Maybe tomorrow morning. I'm not on the schedule tomorrow, so.

Oh, no. I can't text you, though? I don't know. You always have an answer. Always have an answer. If you can get her a text, what time's your afternoon nap, maybe if you fit in a text before that?

Like five o'clock. What's a good text window? So I gotta be before five. You have a five o'clock nap? Yeah. That's impossible. What time do you wake up? In the morning? No, from your nap.

Like 540. And it doesn't make you like more energized? At night it'd be harder for me to sleep if I took a nap at five. 45 minutes is nothing. I sleep like a rock. Really? Yes.

Oh man. I could nap seven hours and still sleep nine. What a gift, cherish that as long as you have it. Yeah, I don't, first of all, I think that's hyperbole. I doubt that you could nap seven hours and still sleep nine. What a gift, cherish that as long as you have it. Yeah, I don't, first of all, I think that's hyperbole. I doubt that you could nap seven and sleep nine. That would be 16 hours a day of sleep. Like unaided. No drinks, no Ambien, just straight up.

I've never taken Ambien. Ooh, you should try it. You may like it. Clearly don't need it. I mean, not if you can give 16 large. I think that everyone needs to tell me their, I think that's the right thing. I'm gonna actually make that as part of my thing

with MetalArc. I would like a window. Give me your window. Everyone has a different schedule. I wouldn't have known that you nap at five. I don't wanna interrupt your nap. Not every day. And I'm happy to actually follow that window.

And I'm smart enough where I could actually have individual people, like Billy, do you put your kids to bed like at seven? So we start- Because you're tough to reach too. I get back to you. Yes. I get back to you.

But I have a difficult window, so it depends on having pickup and stuff like that, but bedtime usually starts, the process is like dinner, like six-ish, and then there's bath, and then there's bedtime. And then it's usually like a process like six to eight, 30 or nine, depending on how it goes. Yeah, it's a long process. That's a three hour process.

It's a tough process. Can I try to make that more efficient for you? You wanna come put my kids to sleep, be my guest. I'm funny how I put my kids to sleep. I had a- He's gonna give your kids Ambien. No, I didn't do that with my kids. No, I read them a book.

I was joking. Okay, good, thank you. Cause I listened with you and me, you never know. But my view of my kids sleeping, sleep to me was the most important thing for my kids. Cause I wanted, it was selfish. I wanted not to have to deal with them. So getting them on a schedule as quickly as possible

was critical and doing it the same way every night, no matter where you were, no matter what time zone, because then their brain sort of understands that, okay, after bath, it's PJs, after PJs, it's one book. And then you beg for the second book, you say good night moon, shut her down, lights out. The biggest parenting mistake

is when people let their kids control their nighttime routine and then you end up without a nighttime routine and then you're just screwed. Gotta be honest, it feels like you're lecturing me on parenting. No, I'm saying my, I would never lecture anyone. No, I'm the opposite guy. Women do that a lot. I noticed when my-

Oh boy, what does that mean? It means mothers would get together and they would sort of compare each other's kids routines and what they were doing and making judgments on food. When I got together with guy friends, we never did that. We just talked about when are we released from duty? Like what time do your kids go to bed that you can then be free?

And do they stay asleep? So it's not women, men, it's not a sex thing, it's just who's responsible. I loved, I was the diaper guy in my household. Oh. I did all the diapers. Dilling with shit, huh? I didn't mind it.

I did not, it's the weirdest thing, I did not mind it. My text window for you just got a little smaller. Smaller than two minutes? Like is it down to one minute? You can text me between 7 a.m. when I'm leaving for work and let's say 4.30. Wow, that's a huge window. Yeah.

Okay. 7 a.m. to 4.30. I thought you were gonna say, It's working hours. You can text me from 7.01 to 7.03. You know what, you're right, that's better. P.M. Oh, I thought right, that's better. PM. Oh, I thought you meant AM.

Okay. Small crack in that window. Man, I'm trying to just get some sort of info. That's why I like using military time. Never text me at 147. Do you use military time? Am I the only one who does that? Of course not.

I exclusively use military time. Imagine us booking guests and we're like, yeah, 1600 works well for Dan. I think it's very clear, because we just had a miscommunication right now. You said 701, if you had said 1901, then there's no problem. I know you meant nighttime.

Okay. Next time, I'll definitely clarify. Semantics. Well, it seems like her window is not gonna get past the 12 anyways, so let's just assume if she says seven, it's 7 a.m. Because like at 1320 she's out O-U-T. Yeah, I think you're doing the math Billy. 1300 she's donezo

Did I just watch you doing the math for 13? That's 120. Well, that's if I take an early nap 13 at 1. Yeah. Can I give you the military code, the trick? It's very easy. Just subtract 12 from whatever number above 12, and that's what it is. So when we say 1830, 18 minus 12 is six, that's 6.30 p.m. Just subtract 12 from the number,

and then you can do military time. Yeah, it's simple arithmetic, yeah. That is very simple. Thank you for explaining that to us. Thank you. That was, you're Thank you for explaining that to us. Thank you. That was, you're welcome. Are the rabbits gonna be, like, what kind of disease do the rabbits have to have

for us to sacrifice them to the dogs? If the rabbits have a disease, the dogs are gonna get the disease, if they ingest the rabbits. That's why you can't feed them sick rabbits. I think it's not a disease, Billy. I think they're just ready to die. They've lived a full life.

It's old age. Did they tell you? How old do rabbits live? They live pretty long. That's a really good question. Longer than you think. I would assume the over under for a rabbit's life is going to be 18 years.

If I had to give an over under. I don't think it's that long. So you're going under 18. Yes. I'm seeing domestic rabbits like eight to 12. On one quick. Okay, so that's the under? My wife owned a rabbit that they got at the fair

when she was in middle school in St. Augustine. Where it was they played one of those games where you throw rings onto a bottle and at the end of it they were giving out these little bunnies which is crazy of course and totally unauthorized and it was supposed to be a tiny little bunny and then it grew into a giant rabbit that was in their backyard

for about a decade, it lived to about a decade. Which is pretty crazy because you would think if you got a little tiny rabbit from a fair, that certainly that was gonna be an unhealthy rabbit. Turned out to be a very healthy rabbit. It's like the carnival fish. Yeah, his name was Benny. The ping pong balls that you put in the things

and you get the fish. Yeah, just like that. And generally it dies in the bag before you get home. Right. He had a carnival fish for five years. I had, what was your fish's name? Cleopatra. Mine was Herman. Wow, Herman.

I named my carnival fish Herman. Herman the carnival fish. He didn't die. Wow. Herman? I named my carnival Herman. Herman the carnival fish. He didn't die. He made it all the way through my middle school. It was insane. Your parents were just replacing it. I actually thought about that.

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