The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Miami-Alabama Debate
Episode Date: December 4, 2024Today's Cast: Dan, Stugotz, Greg, Chris, Mike, Jeremy, Jess. It's National Signing Day and Dan will get to that eventually, but first we get back to discussing the College Football Playoff. Jess ha...s returned from her Thanksgiving trip to see her parents and learned why she is the way she is after watching Notre Dame with her father. Then, we dive into the most recent College Football Playoff rankings, which have all but eliminated the Miami Hurricanes from the Playoffs. Is it fair that they have been left out in favor of a 3-loss Alabama? Should Notre Dame's loss to Northern Illinois be disqualifying? Isn't Bama's loss to Oklahoma disqualifying? Why doesn't Stugotz care about Ashton Jeanty? While all of this madness is happening, we unearth a classic show bit where Papi reads passages from 50 Shades of Grey to make Dan extremely uncomfortable and bring up some haunting memories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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and the words were less painful
than the wheezing way he said it,
bending down becomes increasingly hard
was the last sentence that I just heard from Stugats.
Yeah, it's, bending's not what it used to be.
It's not, not for me, it hurts.
It hurts to bend.
It hurts to get out of bed.
It hurts to get out of my car.
It hurts.
Aging hurts, man.
You're feeling it too.
I know you are.
I am, but I'm doing a great many things to basically just avoid pain.
Everything that I do right now is just to make sure that I'm not in pain.
But you're the young one here in this room today
because Greg Cody's on his way, but he is stuck.
And I don't know if Jessica has felt this or not.
This is the single worst time of year in South Florida
if you want to get around
because Art Basel and money is in town.
December's terrible.
Look, under all circumstances, Miami is overcrowded,
more overcrowded than it's ever been.
We are not equipped for what is here.
Our transit system is not equipped
for everything that's here.
But what's here this week is totally insane.
And I was moderately relieved, though disappointed,
to hear that Stugat and Greg Cody's book signing tomorrow
isn't gonna happen because I simply don't wanna drive
at 6 p.m.
to Coral Gables,
because it's gonna take me two and a half hours
to get there from the beach,
and it's only like 10 miles.
That factored into our decision to reschedule this thing,
and that night demanded a synagogue.
Yo, chicken thot!
You're gonna put me in a church.
I don't know what's going on here.
Dan needs to fill out his lineup.
I gotta believe you.
And also, there's gotta be more to this story.
Chewgots.
Perfect.
Chewgots.
This is not.
That's a funny chicken.
This rigs of Chewgots.
We will find out whenever it is that Greg Cody gets here.
We promoted it so well yesterday too.
I know.
Dan, everyone knows real Miami people
don't do any Basel events.
Mike, what are you up to this weekend?
I have to do one Basel event.
But I don't want to, but I'm there to support.
Yeah, I've seen videos of people in traffic
and it made me realize how happy I am
to be here at the Elser and not at the Clevelander and reliving throughout the oral history episodes.
We are now in like the portion of the of the show's history where we were afternoon drive
at the beach and I remember for a good like year and a half I was getting home at like 9 30 p.m.
Yeah. Don't miss that at all. Ouch. I'm really happy here. The Elter's great.
Wait, so you're going to an Art Basel event.
I got a pretty busy day today here on this show.
And if I may, can I plug Kane's Insight real quick?
My buddy's over at Kane's Insight.
What if we said no?
If you said no, it's totally your prerogative.
It's also Shadow Show.
You were asking Dan, right?
Yeah, but I'm just trying to...
You asked what my day was like.
Mike is wearing slacks today. He means business. The suit jacket's also Shadow Show. Were you asking us? You were asking Dan, right? Yeah, but I'm just trying to, you asked what my day was like.
Mike is wearing slacks today.
Yeah, linen.
He means business.
The suit jacket's in the car.
You want me to grab it?
Do people-
I wanna hear about this day.
Do people still call them slacks?
Is that a thing?
Or comedic effect.
Are they slacks if they're a part of a suit?
They have a pleat fold down the center.
They are slacks.
A little ankle too, which is difficult
when it's 57 degrees out.
No, it's not.
Oh, it's a- It's so nice out right now.
Mike was just complaining about
his tires losing air pressure
because of the heat.
Am I the only one that lost 5 psi
in each tire? How does that happen?
I lost it too. I did.
And then you drive to work and somehow a few more creep back up.
Science!
It's 57 degrees, Jim!
Yeah, so after this show, got a couple meetings
and I'm gonna do, my friends over at Kane's Insight
are live for National Signing Day from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Which really for the Canes this year
is not gonna be a great signing day.
I thought they got the quarterback from Georgia for now.
Oh yeah, they got Luke Nichol.
Like they're guys that are committed.
We lost a couple guys in Florida.
Man, Florida is killing it.
All the buyout money that they had saved up
in their coffers for Billy Napier,
they are spending on NIL and credit to them.
They are riding a lot of positive momentum right now.
But we'll be covering that till like 5 p.m.
and then I gotta go do a Basel thing.
So we're in these pants, these slacks, all day long.
Who calls them slacks?
Because I thought it was just my dad.
I thought it was people my dad's age.
I'm certain when Greg gets here,
he will agree with your dad and call them slacks.
Put it on the poll, Juju.
Do people call them, still call them, slacks?
Because I'm not sure about that.
Have you guys all been running into this traffic yet?
Because what is, Miami, you can look it up,
it is however it is they measure these things empirically,
it is past Los Angeles as a bad traffic town,
however it is they do those measurements.
Jessica has felt that for a while down here,
it hasn't always been like that, but do you feel it now?
Because I don't want to go anywhere.
Like I don't want to go anywhere that is, you know,
12 blocks away because of how congested everything is.
Basil, boat show weekend and spring break.
Don't leave your block, stay home.
And that's what I intend to do.
This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. stay home and that's what I intend to do.
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I'll get into National Signing Day in a second because
I'm really surprised, Dugatz,
that since the days when we have mocked this stuff,
yes, we have now become this stuff
that we used to mock in terms of the trafficking
in high schoolers that was such an obsession
when Joe Buxbaum was a regular on sports radio.
In fact, can you find me a clip?
There's a clip somewhere of one of these experts being faked out by a show that was just asking about fake high school prospects,
and then the expert went into whatever the spiel was on a player that didn't exist.
But I have wanted to talk to Jessica for the last couple of days, wanted her here
because she gets 200 yard interception returns
to get her into the playoffs clearly to defeat USC,
but also she has the added joy of seeing,
miraculously, amazingly, the very first time
the playoff system goes to a professional
format that is 12 teams and allows more than any, as Miami does, all of the things before
the season that would have been considered a successful season, if not for the way that
this ended in disaster, so that, correct me if I'm wrong, Miami's the only team
anyone's really arguing about.
Miami is in the spot where they're the 13th team,
where the argument is about Miami or Alabama,
but most people listening to this would say,
if the playoff were somehow 13 teams,
that Miami would likely be in,
or is there someone else being argued about more than Miami? Well I don't know if anyone's arguing more than Miami because
they're the first team out right now but I would like to posit you this team
which I don't think is getting enough arguments on their behalf. BYU what
what's that about 18 BYU 10 and 2 they beat SMU early in the season yeah they
lost to a really hot Kansas team and to a potential conference champion ASU team
late in the year.
Finished the season with a win this past weekend,
but they're totally out of it now.
How about that?
I wanted to talk to you about how good Notre Dame is or isn't.
Let's do that first.
Okay, so here's the thing, Dan.
I was at my parents' house for Thanksgiving.
My parents both went to Notre Dame.
They're big fans.
Watching football games with them, very stressful.
My dad is very loud.
He claps aggressively.
He screams aggressively.
Every time he claps, my dog jumps up and freaks out.
The game, I wouldn't say was necessarily super stressful.
Notre Dame had a seven point lead
for most of the second half.
But there was a point where on offense,
Notre Dame had stalled out slightly.
They had a pretty bad three and out late in the fourth quarter.
USC was in your field position playing for the tie.
They were playing for the tie with one
of those interception returns.
On their side of the field.
And they were picking on Christian Gray, one
of the Notre Dame cornerbacks for the whole game.
He had gotten a couple pass interference penalties.
He had a really great pass breakup at one point, but it was an up and down, rocky game
for him. Maiava throws it in his direction, he picks it off, runs it back for a 99-yard
touchdown. Notre Dame goes up two touchdowns now in the fourth quarter. The very next drive,
USC throws another 100-yard pick six to Xavier Watts, the reigning Bronco Nagorski trophy winner.
He runs it back for 100 yards.
Notre Dame has the, of the four longest touchdown
interception returns in school history,
two of them were in that game, and back to back plays.
Two of them were in the last, yeah,
in the last couple of minutes.
And it was like the craziest thing,
because at one point in the game,
so on the Christian Gray penalty,
Maiava got called on a low block, so there was a flag,
and my mom thought that the touchdown got called back,
and she was complaining like,
why didn't that touchdown count?
And I was like, look at the score bug, it counted!
They added seven points to the score,
and she's like, why didn't it count, why didn't it count?
And we were screaming at each other,
and then my dad was like, be nice to your mother,
and I was like, no, you've been acting like an asshole,
this whole game, you're an asshole! So you I was like, no, you've been acting like an asshole this whole game.
You're an asshole.
So you're freaking out my dog.
You won't stop.
You've been maniacally putting up Christmas decorations
while you've been screaming for three effing hours.
Don't tell me I'm an asshole.
You're an asshole.
And then he's like, no, be nice to your mom.
And I was like, where do you think I get it from?
I'm like this because of you.
And he was like, you know what, you're right. And he put down his sword and he's like, you're you think I get it from? I'm like this because of you. Oh wow. He was like, you know what, you're right.
And he put down his sword and he's like, you're right.
I am a bad example.
And then we all made up and then we all booked our flights
to South Bend for the playoff game.
That's nice.
In two weeks.
It was tense.
It was tense.
Jess, you mentioned Christian Grey
and in doing the oral history,
we got to put together some super cuts
and I totally forgot about when we had Boppy
read passages from 50 Shades of Grey. Have you ever heard this? No I've never heard this. Would you like to? Yes.
And now poppy reads a passage from Fifty Shades of Grey page 121.
I want you sore baby he He murmurs he continuously sweet
Literally torment backward forward every time you move tomorrow I want you to be reminded that they have been here only me you are mine. I
Can't tell you how not funny that is to me so good we have about a dozen
more One more?
One more?
One more.
And now, Boppy reads a passage from 50 Shades of Grey,
page 75.
His lips are parted, he's waiting,
coiled to a strike, desire, acute, liquid, and smoldering,
combust deep in my belly.
I think that's enough.
I don't know, I kinda wanna hear more.
One more.
Liquid and smoldering?
It's bad writing, Dan.
Yeah.
I mean- There's page 69, I think.
That is not what is bad about this for me.
And now, Poppy reads a passage from 50 Shades of Grey, page 437.
He's naked except for those soft ripped jeans, top buttons casually undone. Geez, it looks so
freaking hot. My subconscious is frantically fanning herself and my inner
goddess is swaying and riding to some primal carnal rhythm.
Oh my god I forgot that in that book he has like pardon my language but Christian Grey has like
f***ing genes like they're the genes that he f***s in. Yeah. Slacks. Slacks. And now, Poppy reads a passage from Fifty Shades of Grey, page 355.
I still want more.
I whisper, I know, he says, I will try.
I'll blink up at him, and he relinquishes my hand and pulls at my chin, releasing my
trap leap.
For you, Anastastasia I will try. What you've
just conjured is something that I haven't thought about in about 47 years
which is the time that I was very scared in my childhood I didn't want to sleep
in my own room I snuck into my parents room I snuck in under their bed,
and something started happening that I didn't really have. No. Eh?
Baby.
Yeah, I was 36 years old.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
47 years ago?
Big poppy.
That's why bending over hurts so much.
It's very unpleasant what you have just done there in terms of just conjuring sort of a
you know when you move things in an attic or basement that haven't been moved a lot
there's like dust and cobwebs and stuff you just did that around a memory that's horrifying to me
that I buried like deep deep down. And now, Bobby reads a passage from 50 Shades of Grey, page 69.
Nice.
I grab the bag and dart into the bathroom, away from the unnerving proximity of naked
Christian.
Michelangelo's David has nothing on him.
In the bathroom, it is all hot than a steamy I strip of my clothes and quickly clamber into the shower
Anxious to be under the cleansing stream of water
It cascades over me and I hold up my face into the welcoming torrent. I want Christian Grey
I want him badly simple fact for the first time in my life, I want to go to bed with a man.
I want to feel his hands and his mouth on me.
Those last two sentences were not necessary.
Just reading the book, Dan, yeah.
It's just different though.
It's not your father.
I heard from our bosses on that one.
Did you? Yeah.
Really?
When are we gonna start telling in the oral history
all of those stories?
Wait, what did you hear from them?
Hey, that was really sexy.
Can you do more, please?
Yeah, can you do more of those?
Mike, I'd like you to come up.
We'd like you for mid-days is what they told me after.
I'd like you to come up with a top five list of things
that you heard about.
Things that just people, I don't know about these things. I'm not certain Mike can do that. I don't know that that just people I don't know about these
things. I'm not certain Mike can do that. I don't know that there are I don't know
nothing really touches Fort Wayne, Indiana for me and that phone call. That was that
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premium regular beer. Dan LeBataard. But it's just his titties are sitting on the shelf that is his belly.
Stugats.
He said titties and it just like shocked me a little bit.
I wasn't quite prepared for titties.
This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats. I'd like to know more because you shield me from some of this stuff.
Greg Cody is now clamoring in.
He has missed all of that, thankfully, because otherwise Chris would have had to imagine
his own father in some of the same positions that you guys just forced me to imagine my father.
But I do have it right that Greg Cody was in yesterday and he called the University
of Miami loss an epic embarrassment.
And Mike Ryan flip flopped over the course of two days from we deserve to not be in the
playoffs because of the epic embarrassment because you lose two out of three you lose to syracuse you're a big favorite
nobody regards syracuse the way Mike regards syracuse and then Mike just goes
off the deep end yesterday and becomes a shilling ambassador for all things
Cain's bought and paid for integrity in tatters because you know I'm alleging
no one has said this publicly except the hand at the end of
the show yesterday that mario cristobal threatened to twist the uh... nipples of
mike ryan if he didn't get out there and change his tone on things
and so
the university of miami
is
nationally getting more than b y u is in term to be why you with
suffering because it's not them
the program name that miami is in because miami croc conjures even now
still a certain thing in the country even though they haven't mattered in
football this way for twenty years
uh... the country at large is having a good argument about miami versus alabama
correct cuz alabama got in just because of the regard for the SEC.
The same thing that Mike Ryan has been yelling about,
which is, I understand that conference has earned
reputation, but it hasn't been that this year.
It's just echoes and fumes.
Like, everyone in that conference
has been proven to be beatable by any number of conferences.
Yeah, you made the argument that Oklahoma State was right there
with FSU and Purdue as the worst P4 program.
They went winless in their big 12.
They beat Arkansas, a 6-win team that beat Tennessee.
So it was what I was fearing.
I did find it really interesting, Dan,
that last night I was not on the popular side whatsoever,
arguing that Miami should be in the playoff.
But I guess that was going up against combined bid
of three SEC teams.
When the dust settled and people realized
Alabama is in ahead of Miami,
and they remember, hey, 11 days ago,
Alabama lost 24 to three to a bad Oklahoma team.
They have one more loss.
And you hear the rationale from Ward-Man is well games against teams with a better than 500 record Alabama is
much better well that's a convenient thing to cherry pick first off these
teams are pretty close a good tiebreaker would be wins and losses but we're not
gonna do that fine what about the teams that are at 500 Ward what's Alabama's
record there?
And over the night, I'm really surprised that,
I guess people just really hate Alabama
more than they hate Miami,
because it feels like the nation's starting to realize,
hold up, that Oklahoma loss,
wait, Miami's lost to Syracuse
to bring them to two losses on the year?
We're gonna punish that more
than we're gonna punish Alabama's loss to a really bad Oklahoma team?
I think that Alabama gets the benefit of the doubt because they've proven this season that
their ceiling is higher because they've beaten Georgia.
Miami hasn't gotten the chance to play a team like Georgia and they haven't gotten a chance
to beat a team like Georgia.
So automatically, Alabama is getting slotted ahead of them because of that and Georgia Georgia did lose all my respect with that Georgia Tech game yeah
but I don't think it's good dude I know but all I'm all I'm saying is that if
Georgia Tech can be Georgia if Georgia Tech can be Georgia then you can't make
a convincing can't because they can't score two points that was so frustrating
to watch Brent Key lost all of my respect in that game I'm sorry that was
so pathetic to watch he didn't know the. He put up a one in the second overtime. You
can't kick an extra point in the second overtime. Learn the rules. My God.
Watching that game at a bar on mute was really confusing watching Brent Key go through that.
But it's actually pretty unfortunate because I was really invested in that ACC-SEC matchup
on Friday. And it turns out that that could be the reason
why Miami is out.
Georgia Tech blowing the 14 point lead
and all those calls that went Georgia's way there.
Because if Georgia loses that game,
Alabama's big signature win that everyone says,
okay, well that's their ceiling,
they proven that they can match it,
becomes really diluted.
And then the loss to Georgia Tech,
all of a sudden Miami's got two losses,
both to rank teams.
I understand the Alabama argument.
They showed what their ceiling could be.
Unfortunately for Miami, they didn't get an opportunity to.
Here's another tiebreaker that I've been told that the CFP usually considers, and that's
common opponents.
All right, so you have a Miami team that has a better record than Alabama.
They both played a USF team.
I know September does not exist in the eyes of the SEC, but in September, they both played a USF team. I know September does not exist in the eyes of the
SEC but in September they both played USF. Who looked better against USF? Clearly Miami
did so it's unfortunate that we just keep shifting the barometers in which we do this.
What was the final score of the Alabama USF game?
No I understand how they pulled away. It was like 42 to 14 or something.
I know Miami looked much better
and the final score was much better.
When they were going down to like,
how much better did they look quarter to quarter to quarter?
Which I think is different.
I also don't think Georgia Tech would be ranked
if they beat Georgia because they-
You don't think so?
They were others receiving votes.
At 84?
I don't-
They were others receiving votes.
I'm just saying I'm not 100% sure.
They might sneak in.
Yeah. But I'm not 100% sure. Look might sneak in, but I'm not 100% sure.
Look, I think ultimately, I'm trying to rationalize,
I know why Miami is out.
Miami is out because they blew a 21 point lead to Syracuse.
It's a huge bummer for me in that Miami,
if I told you before the season, as you alluded to, Dan,
you're gonna go 10 and two,
and you're gonna lose two games to Georgia Tech and Syracuse, which are games that I looked at the
schedule. I'm like, yeah, those are tricky spots inside this conference.
And you're going to lose those, those games by a combined nine points.
And you're not going to get into Charlotte.
And subsequently you're not going to get into the CFP and you're going to have a
Heisman finalist.
You're going to have the top offense in the nation,
this season should feel a lot better
than it does right now.
And that's a huge bummer because Miami pretty much
did all the right things except hold onto a big lead.
Stop being a homo-
Mike.
I thought that was pretty common rational.
I thought I did well.
You just were sitting on that one, huh?
I had the sound I got to hit.
But as it relates to Miami and Alabama,
this is about the Alabama wins, is it not?
I mean, they beat Georgia, they beat South Carolina,
they beat LSU at LSU at a time LSU was ranked in the top 10.
The LSU trick, that infuriates me.
They all get fat on LSU inexplicably being ranked
in the mid teens, and then everybody beats up on LSU
and takes credit for it.
Yeah, I guess a big win is huge.
Yeah, it's wonderful.
They lost to Vanderbilt and they lost to Oklahoma
and they didn't just lose to Oklahoma.
They got figured out and it was embarrassing.
I wanna talk about that in a second,
but Jessica, you wanted to get in here.
I think, Mike, at the end of the day,
there's two things you should be angry about.
One, obviously blowing a 21-point lead against Syracuse and then kicking a field goal down seven at the end of the game. Those are things that you should be mad about. One, obviously blowing a 21 point lead against Syracuse and then
kicking a field goal down seven at the end of the game. Those are those are
things that you should be mad about. Second, Stanford. Let me tell you why.
Because Stanford beat Louisville in the dumbest way possible. I guess you should
really be mad at Louisville, but mostly Stanford because screw that. Screw them
and screw their stupid tree. They beat Louisville in this dumb career high
field goal at the end of the game
because Louisville got an unsportsmanlike penalty
and put them in field goal range
and then they jumped off size and it was so stupid.
And they also beat Syracuse inexplicably
at the beginning of the season.
Stanford is bad, okay?
And Stanford is single-handedly the reason
that there's not more ACC teams ranked right now.
So screw Stanford.
Who decided to let Stanford into,
oh I guess that would be Miami and all the other
ACC schools.
Damn it!
And it's kind of funny for me to argue,
man this conference is really hard when SMU
just strolls into it and goes to the conference
championship in its first year.
Almost like that American athletic conference
was pretty competitive for the last several years.
This guy's just been waiting.
No one's thinking about you right now, dude.
No one's thinking about you. I love dude. No one's thinking about you.
I love your transit of property argument.
It's my favorite.
Well, I think, look, Mizzou was inexplicably ranked
at several points in this season.
You give Mizzou's resume to Duke, Duke is still unranked.
Duke should have been ranked, but look,
these are all based on preseason rankings.
Most of these riders are bought and paid for when it comes to their job depending on the SEC working out and
Miami just ran into that kind of buzzsaw. They had an opportunity there for themselves up 21-0. They blew it
it's a damn shame because
Miami is a really fun team to watch best offense in the the nation. Only lost two games by combining nine points.
You'd think that'd be good enough.
Unfortunately it wasn't.
It's a huge bummer and the season should feel better to me.
But it doesn't.
I will tell you again, it's a made for television event.
And while I would wanna watch the best offense in the sport
and Cam Ward play one more game,
the nation will have its regard for Alabama.
And there's a whole generation that doesn't have
any understanding that Miami used to be good.
Entire generation, 20 years.
So Alabama is getting a lifetime achievement award
on a made for television event
because the argument I would make,
and Jessica, you tell me if you think I have this wrong
because at the time that Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame I said to myself
Even not knowing anything because it was too early in the season. Okay, that's a giant upset
That's probably the biggest upset there's going to be in the sport this year winning at Notre Dame
It was the most confusing result of the season, but it was so early that I'm like, okay
Well, Notre Dame must not be good if that's happening happening i still don't have a sample on who everyone is i've got a sample on alabama and the most
confusing results in me this season i didn't see the game how the hell did
alabama lose that way to oklahoma how was the offense neutralized what don't i
know about uh... the importance of nick saban's coaching that would make it so
that alabama and that quarterback
that milroy wouldn't be able to do anything in a game against a terrible
oklahoma team
where were the most confusing results of the season cuz that one i just didn't
understand and it was so recent that i can't believe they got forgiven for it
even though alabama's been forgiven for any number of losses over the last few
years just because people know to put them on television
I mean I completely agree with you about the Oklahoma game
I think that that like we talked about Alabama's
Ceiling being they can beat Georgia their floor is a lot lower than it's been in the last ten years
Because that game was really bad three points against Oklahoma at the end of the season is a just
horrendous offensive output for Alabama for
any team. But I think that if you Alabama may not make it right because if Clemson wins
SMU is probably going to get the spot Clemson is going to get the bye week probably with
the ACC championship game. So Alabama may not make it and I think and I could be totally
wrong about this but I think that if you explain to an Alabama fan,
you didn't make it because of the Oklahoma loss,
they're probably gonna nod their head and be like,
you know what?
That makes sense.
Just like if you told me in September,
or I guess the better example is like,
if Notre Dame lost to USC this past weekend,
Notre Dame goes into that game knowing
they're playing Southern Cow on the road as their rival.
If they lose, they're not gonna make the playoff
at 10 and two because they have the Northern Illinois loss.
And if you told me that and it happened,
I would agree with you.
Notre Dame should not make the playoff
as a two loss team with the Northern Illinois loss.
But they went into that game knowing we have to win
and we're in because this will be an 11 and one season.
There's not enough 11 win teams to overcome that.
And so this is a win in your end situation.
It's the same thing for Miami playing at Syracuse.
Miami knew they had to win that conference game
to make the ACC Championship game.
It was a play-in game for the playoff,
and Miami had the lead.
They had a chance to tie it late in the game,
and they couldn't finish it.
And that's, I think, the difference between 11-1,
10-2, and 9-3 right there.
Yeah, but I also think also is that people
were watching the end of that game,
and people must not have been watching
what happened in Oklahoma, Alabama, because you can't know what happened in
that game and say to me that that's a team that deserves to
be among the 12 best.
Yeah, but you can watch them play against Georgia and
Tennessee and LSU and say that team could win the national
championship.
They move the goalposts because it's convenient when
September doesn't matter and part of the argument that Lucy
was making on behalf of the argument that Lucy was making
on behalf of the SEC,
I think she was arguing more for South Carolina.
I think we all know that South Carolina's out
because they lost to Alabama,
and that confuses the process if you put,
because head to head, it has to matter.
Alabama beat Georgia in September.
What they did recently was put up three points
against one of the worst Oklahoma teams of our lifetime.
That happened 11 days ago and
Beat Mercer they also beat
Yeah
so they climb up three spots because they beat Mercer and they they beat an Auburn team by by two scores I guess like
It's a bummer. It's a huge bummer, but we knew that if my if it got into a situation where you're parsing
the difference
between Alabama and Miami,
Alabama's gonna win that tiebreaker
because of all the SEC stuff.
And it's a damn shame because Miami had it there for them.
All they had to do was hold on to that lead.
And ultimately that is probably gonna haunt me for years.
Years, because you're not,
that quarterback was a unicorn.
This offense was one of the greatest offenses
we've ever seen in the history of college football.
Not Miami football, that's a certainty.
Not the best in the nation, that's a certainty.
One of the best of all time.
It's a huge bummer that we don't get to see
Ken Ward play again.
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Shirley, every time you're watching this, you recognize that your wife is laughing that she
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in my humble opinion.
And to my credit, my personality.
In my humble opinion, followed by to my credit.
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I'm not gonna say Larry David patterned himself after me.
All right, put it on the poll, please, Jude. You did Greg Cody copyright being an asshole long before Larry David.
This is the Don LeVar show with the Stugats.
It should haunt you for years and it should haunt Mario Cristobal for years because they blew it Miami right like like I want to
have righteous indignation on behalf of Miami they should be ranked ahead of
Alabama and and you can make a good argument that oh they there are only two
losses were by nine points to good teams that's true but the timing of those
losses was disastrous an absolute disaster When they blew that 21 point lead, they had no chance.
There's no room, I want to have righteous indignation
on behalf of Miami.
It's very, very difficult the way that season ended.
I think we can all agree on this.
The problem is not Miami, Alabama.
The problem is Boise State.
Why do we need Boise State or a team like Boise State
in the playoff?
I want Alabama, I want Miami, I want Alabama, Notre Dame first round,
I want Miami, Georgia first round.
I don't want to see Boise State.
What if it's Army instead?
What if Army is the G5 team?
Yes, that's different.
Thank you for your service.
You don't want to see Genty?
You don't want to see Genty?
That's going to be a great game.
Mike, you're not listening to me. What I want to see Gentie? You don't want to see Gentie? That's going to be a great game. Mike, you're not listening to me.
What I want to see is Miami and Alabama.
I don't care about Gentie.
That's what I want to see.
But Boise State.
You should.
Well, we'll see if Boise State, UNLV is very good
and has every opportunity to win that game this weekend.
But right now, Boise State has one loss.
It was a six point loss.
Oregon needed two returns for a touchdown to win that game.
Like they very could have easily beaten Oregon.
Their one loss is the number one team in the nation.
Ashton Gentey, statistically,
the type of season he's having,
he has more yards after contact rushing this year
than anyone else has rushing yards in the
country, period.
You should want to watch him.
Also, I don't care about watching him.
I'll watch the highlight package.
They're going to have a bye the first week of the playoffs.
That's absurd.
They might not.
If the Pac-12 didn't explode in the last year, they would probably be the fifth conference
to get a bid into the playoff.
So this is all just sort of a mess
because it's all happening at once.
But I mean, I just disagree with you fundamentally
because I think there should be a path
for a super talented top 25 G5 team to make it in
or in multiple some years if one of the power conferences
has a really down year.
But I guess going back to Miami versus Alabama I think that like
if the Syracuse game is a touchdown for touchdown shootout and Miami gets left
out I under and Miami still loses of course I understand like the frustration
there but the fact that they had the three touchdown lead is so brutal and
the fact that Mario botched the ending
so badly yet again.
Someone sent me this on Blue Sky.
They said the committee was afraid to see
what kind of clock management Mario could be capable of
in a playoff game.
And that's why Miami was left out.
And I think they're kidding,
but I also think there might be some truth to it.
This guy has proven he cannot handle
the end of game situations time and time again
I would push back on that because Miami was in plenty of close games and Mario
Chris ball pushed all the right buttons all season long and honestly I reached out to some NFL people that crunched the numbers and
They say that was a 50-50 proposition your defense needs to stop them either way
I think the conventional wisdom is if you fail from like the 12 yard line on that fourth and goal
Syracuse is a little bit more conservative and you have a better shot at stopping them
but Syracuse was conservative when they got the ball back and Miami couldn't
stop them. How much time went off the clock though before the field goal kick?
That was the other part of it though it was just a slow non-urgent. I actually don't
remember that part I might have blacked out. The other part of that though because
you're talking about the late game
Situation there the reason I would have gone for it on fourth and goal because people assume if you get an incompletion there
You're still giving them the ball at the 10-yard line
No
I'm calling a play that gets me even closer to the goal line if I get the completion so that perhaps I've got the
Possibility of them starting from their own one or their two or their three.
Right, my frustration is look at what we're talking about
here instead of losing to Oklahoma 24 to three.
Jess, I'm just curious, what would you have done
if the decision were up to you?
Would you have gone with South Carolina?
Who would you have put in?
It's really tough because I think you're right
about South Carolina because Alabama has the head to head. I don't think you can put them ahead of
Alabama and Ole Miss, I think general consensus is the Kentucky loss was
disqualifying. This was a really really bad Kentucky team. Plus they lost to
Florida at Florida Miami. But they also did blow out Georgia so it's I
understand their argument for it. I think of the three, I get putting Alabama ahead of those two.
When it comes down to Alabama and Miami, I mean, yeah, it's tough.
Like Syracuse, they're ranked, but they're, they're a team that has played
in some really big stinkers this season that Miami should have beaten.
Same thing with Georgia Tech.
Georgia Tech is a good team, but Miami still should have beaten them.
And the way that Miami's schedule worked out,
there just wasn't a chance for them to really prove it.
So you would have put them on?
I don't know.
You looked me in the face while you broke my heart.
How much does the committee get paid for this?
Because if you give me that amount of money
and also a weekend at the Gaylord in Dallas,
then maybe I'll give you my answer.
But I'm not doing it for free.
I'm not gonna tell you it for free.
I mean, when we're talking about
how teams are playing late in the year,
we're skipping over the fact that Syracuse only beat UConn
by a touchdown the week before that they beat Miami.
I mean, so when we're talking about,
oh, how did Alabama or Miami look against USF
for parts of quarters?
Like, Syracuse barely beats Yukon.
I mean, we're not talking about a team that,
or an ACC conference.
Why is USF a measuring stick?
Well right, that's kind of my point, right?
We're talking about opponents.
I mean, it's one of the tiebreakers that they use.
Mike, I get why the ACC, I understand that.
And look, it's a bad loss,
but I think the committee has shown us year after year after year after year
They care more about good wins than just wins like they consider more than losses. Yeah, I know
Trust me, I'm aware and the idea of it of the ACC and the SEC and the comparison look
You said it yourself a team that was in the American athletic conference last year walked into the ACC and the comparison. Look, you said it yourself. A team that was in the American Athletic Conference
last year walked into the ACC and was their best team.
And so, as much as I really like a lot of the ACC teams
and there are arguments to be made
that the gap has gotten closer
because of the transfer portal, et cetera,
the reality is the SEC is still a tier above.
SMU would not have walked into the SEC
and had the type of season that they just did. I mean, I just saw Texas do it and I understand Texas is a very tier above. SMU would not have walked into the SEC and had the type of season that they just did.
I mean, I just saw Texas do it
and I understand Texas is a very good team.
It's Texas, not SMU.
Look, Georgia should have lost that game to Georgia Tech.
They still would have been in the SEC Championship.
Unranked Texas A&M was a game away
from being in the SEC Championship.
SMU strolls into Charlotte,
in large part due to the toughest team they played in the conference was Louisville.
You had this situation with three teams.
Is that no different than Miami?
Well, no, what I'm saying is a byproduct of not having divisions.
It's unfortunate because Indiana cracked the code.
Indiana's not playing really good teams inside of their conference,
and they only get to have one loss despite only playing.
Well, that's not true. They did have to play Michigan, who did beat Ohio State.
So I think also-
We are in the mud. have won loss despite only playing. Well that's not true, they did have to play Michigan who did beat Ohio State, so I think also.
We are in the mud.
I wonder how much the close games against Virginia Tech
and Cal ended up mattering at the end of the day
for Miami as well, because Cal.
What about at the start of the day?
One of the worst teams, at the start of the day,
good win against Florida.
But again, we're bringing up the Cal game
when we're ignoring 24 to three heat. I'm not ignoring not ignoring that I'm telling you if Alabama gets left out. I
Totally agree with it. Like you're just arguing about who's ahead of who okay, but I understand that I miss the BCS
Here's what's happening here to me. That's so funny
And I can't believe it's the Miami team that gives us this gift like you guys are sitting here
Miami team that gives us this gift. Like, you guys are sitting here trying to make arguments
based on merit as if merit matters.
Like, to me it's fascinating that we keep doing
this stupidity when the point of this particular season
is the argument.
Like, it's not about the merit.
So, you come at me with the timing of this was disaster.
Timing is not about merit.
How good is your football team? Timing.
You're coming at me with how it looks
that they lost with a 21-point lead
and the fourth and goal and the botched ending at Syracuse.
The merit is what are their records
and what have they done against the others?
Unless when you got a bunch of murkiness,
you can just make it a made-for-television event,
and everybody would
prefer to have alabama even as we make the arguments on behalf of miami
because we're myopic
and because we love cam ward and this generational team
isn't as television friendly as alabama is because a whole generation has
watched alabama be great at football that hasn't seen Miami be great at football.
Tone.
I think Alabama is getting huge merit points for beating Georgia who may end up being the
SEC champion.
So I get your point.
I think the Oklahoma loss is a very valid reason to leave them out of the playoff.
No matter what happened this year, we are always going to argue about the teams on the
bubble, whether it was the 12th seed, the 11th seed, the 13th ranked team, whatever.
You guys, you guys.
But Dan, if Alabama lost to Georgia and beat Oklahoma, I don't think they'd have a great
case to get in.
I think Miami would be in.
I think that they are just getting a ton of credit for beating who will probably be the
SEC champion if they are able to win again against Texas.
Which is why I argued, if Miami's in the Big Ten or SEC Miami has a similar year
and their two losses are probably considered better losses and they
actually have the opportunity because Miami certainly has a team that is
certainly capable of beating the likes of Georgia or I think that you guys
didn't have the ability the side from Greg Cody there I don't think that you guys didn't have the ability, the sigh from Greg Cody there, I don't think
that you guys had the ability during the course of this segment to make me long for my father
talking about Fifty Shades of Grey, but you managed it.
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