The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Miami Dolphins "Show Me" Game

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Greg, Chris, Billy, Mike, and Roy. Greg Cote, despite 20 years of doing this show, is frazzled to begin the day, but today is not about him. Today is the official launch of... Stugotz's Personal Record Book (stugotzbook.com) as Stu becomes an author before Dan. Stugotz explains exactly how the book came together, why the audiobook is slightly delayed, and why this project was definitely about the audience more than it was about the money. Then, Dan declares this week a "show me" game for Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins. Billy criticizes the show for selectively editing words said by a disembodied voice near him on yesterday's show about Tua and the Fins, and Greg explains why Tua has been one of the elite QBs in the NFL this season. Plus, Dan Stanczyk is the real author behind Stugotz's Personal Record Book and joins the crew to discuss the dynamics between him and Stugotz as they pieced together this book that will definitely be a New York Times Best Seller. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Add your teen to your Uber account today. Add your team to your Uber account today. Greg, do you still not know when we're starting after all these years? Um, I'm getting there. I call it progress. How are you frazzled? You were here as early as you've ever been before. We were having a pre-show meeting
Starting point is 00:00:59 and you were just sitting in that chair for like an hour. But he was locked in on something. He was, yeah. And you know what? I'm doing pre, I'm doing Miami Herald work. Tying up loose ends. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:08 This is a big thing, we do our podcast, and my dad, anytime we're like, Dad, you ready to go and record? I gotta tie up some loose ends first. Never know what that means. Everybody's got loose ends. Yep. You know, you gotta cross your T's and dot your I's.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Yep. By the way, it would've been nice of your mother to tell me that there's apparently no school today, so I breeze down here. It usually takes me an hour and 20 minutes I breeze down here in like 45 minutes yeah you were here early it's great I'm going to hear that that upset you did she tell you the weather I did I asked her the weather right guys I'm amazed by this Erlene is his internet and his ways and he cannot did you just hear what happened he blamed his wife for not
Starting point is 00:01:47 knowing that there wasn't going to be traffic on his way to work she doesn't drive this way well she knew i think that there was no school today because she keeps track of all that even though we have mad students in school for twelve years uh... but she neglected to tell me look she's not perfect
Starting point is 00:02:07 she's a wonderful woman does she have shortcomings like this morning? of course was chris in high school twenty five? um... no but he... i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt he might have still been trying to pack his way through college if you think chris isn't going to be the same overgrown toddler that his father is, and if you think Chris was...
Starting point is 00:02:28 I check the weather. I check the weather too. I open the back door and stick my head up. That's how you do it. Right. I notice that you got short sleeves on. Is it a good arm week? It's a better arm day than I was having last week.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Wow, they look great. Well, that's great to hear, because today is a huge day, not just for you and your improving arm health, but for our friend Stu Gotz. It's a massive day. Oh my God. And I'm talking because I walked outside and it was clear as day.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yeah. It's a good whistling day. Oh, it is. The weather outside is perfect. Yes. Whistling weather. Yes, it is, and a good smoking weather as well. Uh let me try a whistle out here. Little dry. Mouth's a little dry.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I think we need to go outdoors. I think I need we. Well, I have a heater too so that will be nice. Um I think. Izzy taught me. Hold on. Hear it? Not bad. Barely. From the throat.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Lick your lips. From the bottom he said. What did he say? Izzy said from the bottom? Baby. I think that's A-O now. It's not A.O. now. Oh. Is it not A.O.?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh. Wait, there it is. Yeah. All right. Holy shit, what a giant day. One of the biggest days in show history. I can't believe the celebration we're about to unleash upon America.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. This is the Dan LeBattor Show upon America. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Imagine my surprise and delight. To see that this day has arrived. Amazing. Stu Gotz is an author.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah. And Stu Gotz. A bestselling author. Before you. He isselling author before you he is an author before me that was very uh... aggressive the way you did that to me Roy it was a day to celebrate stugatsen you immediately came after me you come into the show three seconds before it starts you come in and you point a finger at me
Starting point is 00:04:59 i'm trying to celebrate stugatsen on his big day and all you do is throw in my face that he's an author before i am i'm angry about this Dan like you need to write a book legitimately need to write a book that needs to be a goal of yours before your career ends is to get this book I'm congratulations to God's. Thank you. Okay, not about me. Yeah about me today It's about Stugats because we've arrived at the day, and Roy, I appreciate it. Please, please help me build the company
Starting point is 00:05:27 so I have time to write a book. You don't need to write a book, Dan. You're on the air four hours every day. What else do you have to say? I mean, you've written enough forwards at this point, it could be a book. If you need me to ghost write the book for you, Dan, just let me know.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'm dominating the book game right now, I prefer you out of it. Listen, Stu Gotz is about to crush this because i can't believe that the day that stu got to finishes something because we have arrived at the publishing of stu got to his personal record book that what will immediately happen at this point is career that i didn't think that i'm more conquering and mystery and wonder in it is a climb to the top of media could have more conquering and mystery and wonder in it is a climb to the top of media
Starting point is 00:06:05 i think stood out scan legitimately become a new york times best-selling author because of the way this book is already selling and it wasn't on sale until right now for real where we launched this book into the sky and demand that america makes to got to best seller and i'm gonna tell you chris coming in here senior father not know that there was no school and getting here too quick through traffic he was not enjoying as Stu gots talked about some of the numbers coming in on his book and he thought to himself my books didn't do quite that well and his hasn't gone on sale yet for real not for real I saw you sitting for an hour in
Starting point is 00:06:44 the jealousy this is vintage vintage, Dan. He's trying to pit the two authors of books against one another to deflect away from what Roy called them out on. I got to tell you, Greg has been nothing but supportive both to me, the book, and we should thank Dan Stanzak as well because Dan Stanzak really wrote this book. He wrote it along with me and many many others and I thank all of them because we all wrote it for you. Dan your forward was fantastic, Greg your chapter was amazing, Greg and I are doing a book signing together. Yes we are. You will not divide us, okay? We are two authors who are unified. We are going to do a book signing together in Miami in a couple of weeks. How about that?
Starting point is 00:07:22 Uh oh, it's uh, I'm not crazy about this ambiguous timeline. You better be careful. I'm super excited about that. We'll be a couple of authors just sitting around cutting it up. Yeah baby. I couldn't help but notice when I tried to get the book on Audible that it said delayed.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, that's the audio version of it. Who's recording the audio version? Has it been recorded? I am and what I decided, by the way, halfway through recording the audio book, it been recorded? I am and what I decided by the way halfway through Recording the audiobook now. I did the entire thing, but I wait wait wait hold on you've recorded this it's done Yes, okay. Yes, cuz I was one of my chief concern and I told wait wait Let me just cuz I've got a little more information before you go into the full-on grift of this sure I was just gonna say in the spirit of this show, I told the director of the audiobook
Starting point is 00:08:05 to save all the outtakes. Okay. And there are plenty. But before- He's dancing big words. Before we get to selling the audiobook, which will be a different time of sales than what is being sold today,
Starting point is 00:08:16 the big day when we're merely trying to get to Stugat's New York Times bestselling author. Cause the audiobook will be a whole different kind of Stugatz selling out. But it's not supposed to be. They're supposed to be out at the same time if I understand books correctly. Okay, but over the last few weeks, Stugatz has been really grinding. He goes home and he has been doing this audiobook. But while he was doing it, I was telling him that I thought that it might be better if he had Cody read his own version,
Starting point is 00:08:47 and then I believe Stugots had the idea it would be fun to do show within the audiobook, which is just gonna give more work for you guys, just so that you know this ends in more work for you guys. Really, I wasn't satisfied with what it was I was doing, and so I said there's a better way to dress this thing up. And so whether it's, you know, I have top fives in there, breaking those up with a sound, you're going to Chris,
Starting point is 00:09:09 but you never actually hear from Chris, and just things I think would make the audience enjoy it a bit more than just me reading into a microphone. That's all. You know, audio books is pretty much just dudes reading. Yeah, but I wanna change that. I love his train of thought though. I need to change this up.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I mean, I wanted to be better. I'm gonna do the top better in the book. But you had everyone write the book for you. Why don't you just have the people read what they wrote? Well, you don't have to read anything. I've asked enough of those people. They have done enough for me. I mean, seriously, they have and the top fives I put it the way we did the book is Stansick sent me the book and I sent back a different book. That's what we did because I needed the audience to feel like I actually contributed something to the book. And so we tried to put it more into, you know, my personality. I weaved it.
Starting point is 00:09:52 The whole thing is supposed to be your personality. It's your book. Like he is crushing Deion Waiters in one chapter and I decided to do top five athletes that could note something you would find in a restaurant. That's not how it is. I put that in. The rare book. That was my edit. Did. I put that in. The rare book.
Starting point is 00:10:05 That was my edit. Did you read any of this book? Best seller. Yeah, I had to for the audio. I'd love to hear from Stantik on this experience. Let's talk to him. Let's interview Stantik. That's not how audiobooks are supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I was forced to. You're supposed to have faith that the audiobook is the book. So Greg Cote worked very hard on his two books three books but i work hard on two of them you're right who's got one of them and the two that have sold very well because they were pushed through this show back in my day which was released just recently up new book and pride of a lion which you did with ron mcgill yeah those sold our audience is crazy man it really is and i couldn't be we couldn't be more grateful for it but they they sell in the publishing industry
Starting point is 00:10:54 thousands and thousands of books and yours did very well but what still got to do in right now is off the charts and he has it really gotten started yet and he's farmed out all the work he did it in the laziest way possible i will tell you know that i was insulted about seventeen times and how it is that i had to write that forward and i don't think stood out to ever read it he just said it was long it was hard
Starting point is 00:11:19 to get through again yet you're a long forward writer yeah and they really are your i mean i listen i a m i appreciate it then because uh... i needed it and i had you did it and you did it well i have not read it uh... but it was hard to get the he ike i got back at it's from still got spilley you'll love this this is what i got back from stands it more of a toast that arose well you after he had told me just crush me this this is what I got back from Stanzig more of a toast than a roast
Starting point is 00:11:45 well after he had told me just crush me yeah so I'd already written something that was just crushing him you crush me and then he he doesn't read it and I have to rewrite it because Stanzig I got instructions I did some edits as well I mean was it yeah well I thought it was too mean. I was reaching out to Stugats, who hadn't read it, and I'm saying, I think this is too mean. I don't think this is what should be at the front of this book.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I think this needs to be softer, but you told me to crush you. It's a great way to receive a forward from a guy you've been doing a show with that you consider to be a friend for the last 20 years. He hands me something, and he says, make sure you read this. More importantly, make sure Abby's okay with this. Oh boy. Oh Dan, what did you do? Well, I did what Stu got assigned me to do after he asked Will Bond to do it or after he asked me to get Will Bond to do it. Yeah, what happened
Starting point is 00:12:40 with that? He ghosted me. Now he's ghosted both of us. You cost me that friendship too. I'm sorry. No you're not. No I am. I don't want to cost Dan any friendships. And if you lose a friendship with Wilbon, did you lose a friendship? Put it on the poll please, Juju, at Levitard Show.
Starting point is 00:12:56 If you lose a friendship with Wilbon, did you really lose a friendship? At Levitard Show. There is a ton to talk about today, and we will continue the launching of the book over the course of the day. But I am ready to announce something Billy that I think everyone here will be moved by
Starting point is 00:13:15 and it won't be hard to get Greg Cody to rally at my side and run into the breach. The Miami Dolphins are about to play a show me something game. Wow! And if they win that game on the road, I will allow everyone here to hope. I will stop forbidding hope and I will simply allow everyone here to hope freely and without encumbrance you can hope that the Miami Dolphins, a 500 team, will do something in the playoffs. What if we're already hoping though?
Starting point is 00:13:45 No, you're not allowed to hope yet. It's a you give us permission I showed you win at Green Bank is you gotta show me something You gotta show me this is a show me something game. I like it. Yes, you haven't beaten anybody. Yeah This is better. I'm loving this whatever you're giving off right now about the Dolphins. I love it much better of it Yeah, no, man. Hope is a dangerous thing, Dan. I don't think I can do it. I can't hope. In general, or just Dolphins related? Just Dolphins related.
Starting point is 00:14:10 No, no. It's too dangerous. Can't do it. Billy? Yes, Dan? I learned yesterday, you need to be very careful when you're talking about the Dolphins. Dolphins fans are very mad at me.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Very mad at me for my analysis. It wasn't you who said it. I didn't say anything. It was that other voice a u s as it wasn't you so i don't say anything that was that other voice that said it wasn't you who said did you hear what the other voice said the other voice said yes sir i want to say but in these games this is where to get her late at night when everyone's watching it was a billy was another voice that yet and people got mad at him because he was just good he was whispering it's your subconscious talking uh... immoral football fan. I'm among you.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I live among you. I'm watching a guy who is more at risk for a concussion than anyone in sports that we'll talk about. The single, the center of all the dolphin hope is a brain that will be talked about if it gets hurt again, more than any other brain in the sports world existing. Which is crazy, because like Denzel Ward has this same exact issue and no one knows about it because he's got Tua as a meat shield.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Not Chris Alave too. Yeah, I mean there's players in the NFL who have had five, six concussions but because they don't play a starting quarterback, we don't know about it. Tua played a completely healthy season just a year ago. It's fatalist thinking to go, well, but what if he gets hurt? Chiefs fan could say that about Patrick Mahomes. Imagine if Mahomes breaks a leg? What's with the Chiefs then? You know, you could say that about the whole league.
Starting point is 00:15:37 It's a good point. But if Mahomes tours ACL twice, you'd be more concerned about his knee moving forward, who has had several concussions. So therefore, you are more concerned about his knee moving forward to has had several concussions so therefore you are more concerned about you know i'm not concerned about erin rogers uh... re-injuring his achilles i'm concerned about erin rogers being forty one years old and not very good anymore billy the storm you found yourself in yesterday was interesting to me because all that other voice was saying and it was near you so i can understand how people would think it was you
Starting point is 00:16:04 uh... what all voice was saying and it was near you so I can understand how people would think it was you. All he was saying is the greatest fear of dolphin fans that's only here because of the things that have happened in this game situation where you dare to hope oh their offense looks great oh I forgot their quarterback's brain is in narrative mushier than the rest like we're all doctors on Ct and he's more fragile than anyone in the sport and we forget if they put together a three-game win streak well we forget entirely all the offense looks good to clarify Greg I didn't say any of that stuff what I said was what I said was this might be to his
Starting point is 00:16:40 biggest game it sounds crazy but it might be his biggest game because it's an opportunity for him to dispel a lot of the bad narratives around him. Can't do it in the cold, can't do it against a good team, can't do it in prime time, all of those things. And then somewhere off to the side, someone said, well, this is historically when these concussions seem to happen.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But again, I didn't say it, and I would caution you guys to go down that path as well. And I would also say. Why do you say you didn't say it? You said caution you guys to go down that path as well. And I would also say. Why do you say you didn't say it? You said it, but you said it in a different voice. It was very clearly you saying it to somebody else. It wasn't him. I'm not certain.
Starting point is 00:17:14 So the point is this, I would caution you guys not to go down that path because it's not a path well received. The path you said. Even. Not him. Why do you do the hmm? Like, you're insinuating that we're lying. There was selective Even, mm, mm. Not him. Why do you do the, mm, that like, that's, you're insinuating that we're lying about,
Starting point is 00:17:27 you're the one that said it. There was selective editing, I would say, we're context. You were live. There was context, yeah, no, but the problem is is that- You were right next to him. No, a lot of people, no, no.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I saw the words come out of his mouth, but he just muffled them. No, no. You know he's gonna say fallacies. No, falsehoods. Give him a chance. Falsehoods. This is, this is. This is the situation.
Starting point is 00:17:47 A lot of people received that via social media, and I will say there was some selective clipping. And I understand the game, I understand how this works, we put out the spiciest things out there, lacking full context and full reasoning, where I specifically said, I'm rooting for Tua to succeed, I want him to succeed. However, some people may be worried about the situation.
Starting point is 00:18:08 All of that absent. And this takes me down a sad path that I remember one Super Bowl week two years ago when we were in Arizona where a similar thing happened with this very same Tua in an interview where a question that I asked him, you know, in jest was replayed lacking certain context, where the video that went out that upset the Dolphins fans everywhere
Starting point is 00:18:32 was when I asked to ingest, ingest, in response to another question that was asked previously, when I asked to a quote, should Mike McDaniel be charged with your murder? And they did not like that question at all, and they said this is such bad form and blah blah blah. But had you gotten the full context, you would have known that that was me
Starting point is 00:18:51 trying to lighten the mood because we went to Concussion Town with Dan and the rest of it right before that. So I was trying to kind of lighten the mood and move away from that. Now. You're often a victim of things being out of context. Thank you, finally you get it.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yeah, it happens. And it oddly happens with starting quarterbacks inside the AFC East. No, no, no. And by the way, lacking also in the analysis is it's a big game against a team which, Dolphins fans forgive me on the front end for saying this, a team that's arguably better than you, forgive me,
Starting point is 00:19:20 arguably better than you. And then in those instances, Tua sometimes tries to make things happen that aren't necessarily there, and that's when he gets in trouble. He tries to extend the play, he tries to dive head first for first down, like that's when things get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Forgive me, I just, someone mentioned it, and I thought, you know what, maybe. Maybe, that's something that's a fear. It's something to be worried about, a concern. But again, this is a great opportunity to dispel a lot of this. That's all that was said yesterday. I think I've heard some murmurs worried
Starting point is 00:19:49 that playing this opponent on holiday usually also means to against a concussion. I haven't heard such things. I find everything around him to be wildly interesting because he's the epicenter stugats of how that position matters, how that sport matters, our conundrum at the crossroads between, wow, we really like violence, not that much, and should he retire, and I'm sitting next to a longtime columnist I accused of being a
Starting point is 00:20:18 homer the last time he was in here, and we enraged him by having his wife come on and say, yeah, he roots for the Dolphins. He has said the Dolphins were gonna win the Super Bowl last year Yeah, to what is at the center of all of that? Hope he has been very protective of to and even he says one more concussion on Thanksgiving night while America's watching and he needs To retire no, I actually didn't say it quite that way what I said was I think the next Bad concussion and there are different types of incursions i think the next bad concussion see him retire
Starting point is 00:20:52 uh... i didn't say that he would need to uh... i always think it should be the players decision uh... i never think it should be the media's decision or the fans decision or the team's decision you said it would be a howling outcry for that career to end if we have to watch. If America has to recoil at the horror of seeing on television, wait this is one of the guys I like, I'm going to keep seeing him spasm? Nah man, like this I'm not okay with how all of this feels. But this talk is ridiculous because I regret doing it the first time around with Tua where
Starting point is 00:21:21 I actually said he should retire, I don't wanna watch him play football and he quickly corrected all of us by saying, hey, this is up to me. Yeah. It's not up to you. This is up to me. It's up to me and my family and it is. Tua loves playing football. Tua wants to be out on the football field. Tua realizes, I'm guessing, there is a risk to him playing such a violent sport but you know what? He is willing to risk all of that because he wants to be there with his teammates and play the sport that he lost until you had a good with that you're good with
Starting point is 00:21:51 it now those two gots i understand you're good with it now but he's the one who's going to get hurt not all but you're good with it now but when he says till the death of me and then you're faced with what happened with tomorrow hamlin and we're canceling the monday night game and then all of a sudden hushed tones fall over the proceedings and we're less good with the choices that he made because we had to see the consequences of the choices that are made. But I'm not good with people making choices or thinking they have the power or authority to make choices on his behalf and he's a grown man. Demar Hamlin is still playing for the Buffalo
Starting point is 00:22:22 Bills, Tua is still playing and as well as he ever has Tua in the last three or four games has not just been pretty good He's been great. He's been like best in the NFL great the last couple of games and It's because he's he's look He's much better this year in his progressions when he threw that touchdown pass to John who Smith John who Smith was his fourth option Last year, he never gets to his fourth option he's fortunate that i re killer something to was a smarter quarterback this year i think he's safer on that one play
Starting point is 00:22:54 where he went after an interceptor if i may though great to the point that the voice near billy was making in the situation where to was being asked to do a little more in a big game against buffalo once again cincinnati when everybody's watching i'd just started the show with this is a show me game the last couple of games to was played no one seen them even though everybody watches the nfl everyone watches this one
Starting point is 00:23:18 what to what is done i i i don't mean that is dismissively is it sounds so what has played two games when all the other games were going on in the dolphin game was a one of the interesting one so what he's done the last two weeks if i'm saying this is a show me game it's against jordan love the other guy who got money the voice underneath billy's breath was telling you these are the spots where he gets hurt trying to do a little too
Starting point is 00:23:40 a little too much in the open field and and what i would suggest is that when you're two and six every game is a show me game he's played three show me games in a row to get his team back into playoff hope and and he's won three in a row and and i don't know there should not be a presumption of the next concussion is right around the corner you can have that fear and concern but you can't assume it into a dozen and and shouldn't and and if he plays the rest of season healthy as good as he has the past couple of weeks they're gonna they're they're gonna make dolphin history by going from two and six to the playoffs this took a negative turn again it's not what we're supposed talking about it was
Starting point is 00:24:19 book day yeah book day and is a show me day excited thanksgiving day oh my god and hope eight o'clock Thanksgiving. Lambeau Field. Dolphins. Packers. Exciting. This one's great. Yep. It's a show me game. A win? People also got mad that I said that it's potentially the biggest game of his career and then they started throwing out the biggest game of his career was the one that he lost against the Chiefs last year. The biggest game of his career is the one against the Bills. The biggest game of his career is the National Championship. Those are all fair. Yeah, no I get it but moving forward this is the one against the Bills. Biggest game of his career is the national championship. Those are all fair. Yeah, no, I get it, but moving forward, this is the biggest game of his career this week.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Like, what's the big deal? Billy, when you were talking earlier, I didn't realize that you did deserve more context. When you asked him to lighten the mood, should the Dolphins be charged with murder? Yeah, that's the proper way to respond to that. That was an attempt to lighten the mood. It was a follow up, Dan. After an interview that I derailed with terrible questions and you were trying to save, you fell on the sword on behalf of the show and Dolphin fans were
Starting point is 00:25:17 furious with you even though all you were trying to do was in that one instance legitimately help. Yeah, I didn't know that they were that mad until I was sitting at the airport like four hours later. I was like, let me check my phone to see what's going on. I was like, oh no. Oh no. Oh, Tua canceled all his interviews for us in the day after that one.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Oh no. I was like, guys, you don't understand. He signed my jersey after. He was OK. It was fine. He wasn't that mad. They're like, he canceled everything. I was like, oh.
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Starting point is 00:28:54 slash promos for additional terms and responsible gaming resources. Hey everybody, not here. Well, can't come to the phone. See, doesn't that sound better? No, it does not. It does not sound better. It sounds he is absolutely slurring his hey everybody. By the way, not surprising at all that he would answer the phone and think just everybody is there. It's only one person calling you. It's everybody. Stugats. He's performing, baby. To the phone and think just everybody is there only one person calling everybody still got
Starting point is 00:29:29 Everybody 19 Miller lights deep Everything is good content featuring Greg Cody. Hey everybody. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. Dan Stanczyk is right there. I see him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:58 How do I describe him, Stugats, to the audience? He's your long-time producer and he's the actual author of this book correct yes he is the author of the book he used to produce to potty back when we were esp and he is still at the esp and he is a huge fan of the show he produces me to com's podcast right now adam shepter's podcast as well he's shaking his head no he's not maybe i got me to comes wrong but it doesn't matter our Our audience because I am telling you right now Dan, this book, I never wanted to write a book. Stanzak loves our show so much, loves the characters so much and he has a desire to write books. Stanzak wrote this book and audience if you are enjoying today and enjoying the books
Starting point is 00:30:41 and enjoying putting us on the New York Times bestseller list and we're number one in a million different categories right now on Amazon. You have one person to thank and that person is Dan Stanzek. It's more than that though because it was the hundreds of people that he recruited. Well I did that, that was my contribution. All right, anyway, no, Stanzek is shaking his head no. All right, Stanzek, what is true and what is not true here
Starting point is 00:31:03 about what he has already presented? What has he presented, Dan? I don't know. First time in a long time. Great to be with you. Yeah. What he just said. Original crew today. Yes. You like that, right? Yeah. The original crew. Big fan of the show. I told you, Dan. To sell the book that we will make a best seller. The audience will make the best seller. But tell us about the experience of doing this with Sugatji. You were shaking your head no as if facts that weren't facts were coming out of his mouth well he didn't reach out to the 20 people that contributed to the book I think he gave me contact information for about one or two of them but I did all of the reaching out to all who Greg included Greg has the emails to
Starting point is 00:31:40 prove it yeah yeah yeah I guess to God's his people this is made the initial ask Dan's like let's just start there Who made the initial ask, Stanzik? Let's just start there. Who made the initial ask? Of Randy Scott and Field Yates, those two. Yeah, that was you. Those two were definitely you. Yeah, because I knew they were going to say yes and you said, hey, I'll just reach out to them and take some of the load off. I don't think Stugats wants everyone to see just entirely how lazy he was during this, but I'm going to dig up. Yes, but I shouldn't have me on then. You reach out to field gates on Sunday mornings, I mean.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Well, Stanzyk, Stugatz came on here and was, he really did every day, was talking about how tired he was from writing this book, and as far as I could tell, it's just because he had to do three meetings. There was a lot of meetings. I don't want to defend Stugatz too much, but he deserves defense there. There were plenty of meetings. He was in a lot of those meetings, but he also had me in those meetings
Starting point is 00:32:29 to provide the context that the publisher needed in those meetings. There was plenty of meetings. The work Stugatz has done has really been in the last few weeks, which is probably why some of the things are delayed. I would also like to say Stugatz has finally now read the book as he's been doing the audiobooks.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I was forced to. He has more information than he normally would be. You did a great job. How is it? Yeah, you did a great, it's great. I gotta tell you, it's fantastic. I changed some things around, I sent it back to Stan Zick, but he really did a good job. I mean, you really captured me.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You did a tremendous, some big words that I would have left out, but you really did a great job of capturing the essence of Stugatz. Thank you, buddy. You did, you did sprinkle in some things after all the editing process was done. We needed to be done with the entire project. Stugatz did sprinkle in a couple of lines, but I did notice that those sprinkles were in like the first three or four chapters. Yeah. Which led me to believe that he didn't get to, you know, five through thirty-five. So I noticed that when I was reading the book, it was very inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:33:26 The first four or five chapters were a lot better than the last, let's say, 16 or 17. How many chapters are there? Started strong, we started strong. Yeah, we did. I'm proud of you, man. You wrote a good book, seriously. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It's holiday time bonus, maybe? What are we thinking here? You wrote a good best seller? Is there a best seller bonus? What do we get? I mean, I don't know. That will depend on sales of the book, right? I's all guaranteed money I'm joking whatever I agree to with Stanzy because what he gets maybe a little bonus we'll see the kid how does it feel being an author
Starting point is 00:33:54 Stanzyk it's actually weird um I plan on going to a bookstore later today and hopefully the book is there I think that will be a real moment um Not that people go to bookstores anymore, but anyone listening should buy the book. Yeah. It's great, honestly. It hasn't felt real. It still doesn't feel real. But like the books came in my house. So like it is real. I'm sure the audience feels the same way. You know, Stu gots to set a million things. He's had a million of ideas and he hasn't, you know, executed many of them. This is one that was executed largely for him, but he did contribute. So I think this is a happy day for the audience.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It's a Stu Gott's idea that has come to fruition for the audience. Yes, something I was never gonna do, honestly. I would never, anyone who knows me knows I am incapable for a number of different reasons for sitting down that long to write a book. It is never something I've had a desire to do. Until Mike Schur introduced me to this guy,
Starting point is 00:34:50 Richard Abadi, okay, who was one of the great literary agents in America. And then he called me two hours later with an offer from Random House. And oh my god, did my tone change in terms of wanting to write a book? I got an offer. Yeah, that would do it. Yeah, if we were to rank the reasons why this book happened or why you wanted to do the book, you know, I think money is probably number one. I would say the audience is number one, money is number two, Stanzic is number three, and
Starting point is 00:35:21 money is number four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. How about that? I mean, is that fair? is number three and money is number four five six seven eight nine ten and that their status you know i wanted to do this for the audience it was never get it done unless you did it so absolutely doesn't have a yes i don't know why it all there well i i just think money is probably number one the audience is private to you but yeah i did there is some some good nature there yet money one audience
Starting point is 00:35:41 to europe well the the fact that you all attracted random house a major that elite nfl sports level publishing house is amazing and that's why when you go into that bookstore stands at chances are pretty good you might actually see the book a cautionary tale though when pride of a lion first came out i was all thrilled the day it came out on no I run to my local Barnes and Noble I'm envisioning a big display not just the book somewhere on a
Starting point is 00:36:10 shelf I'm envisioning a big display nowhere to be found they never carried the book so but I think it's gonna be different with a Random House product this is where the jealousy comes in. You guys thought I was making this up. Everybody here thought I was being negative and I was pitting people against each other. Okay, I'm just saying, you know, Random House is the NFL. I have a beautiful local publisher called Mango Publishing. I love Mango. Wonderful, wonderful local publisher.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I love Mango, but it's not the NFL, Random House is. And even Mango would agree with me. So that's the only reason that Stugatz's book is more successful than yours. I was given a note and I'm wondering if you guys can confirm or deny this. I was told that you were asked specifically to stop saying this is going to be a New York Times best seller. Is this so? I don't recall at any point someone asking me to stop saying that. I mean, listen, whether it goes on the New York Times bestseller list or not,
Starting point is 00:37:06 I don't care because the thing is, I'm a bestselling author today. And in my personal record book. What metrics? Well, in Stygots's personal record book, part two, this book has already made the New York Times bestseller, okay? It's already there, so it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:37:21 What were you guys pointing at? Who was being told not to say New York Times bestseller anymore? So it doesn't matter. What were you guys pointing at? Who was being told not to say New York Times bestseller anymore? The audience, it is required of the audience. Again, Chris, not helpful to continue to point at a screen. Who is telling you that we shouldn't be saying New York Times bestseller? Stugatz denied it. I wanted to hear Stanzic's opinion on that.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I'll just say that there is some hesitancy within the publisher our publisher about mentioning it But I have told them still got has been saying it since February like this. This isn't going to change He's been saying Stu got to be your times bestseller list be collision course like it's a thing So I we sent the book to influencers 30 or so people Dan you were among those who got the book with the note from Stu gots an eye that of course I wrote Yeah, and in the note I had that line in there and someone with our publisher asked to take it out because the New York Times gets a little finicky When you mentioned the New York Times bestseller list trying to get on there. Yes
Starting point is 00:38:15 Um, so the publisher did at one point suggest that we not do that and I told them we're doing it I I would like I would like to those Taylor'sers one i would like to birds the alliance in this regard uh... because i don't believe in the history of all his griffs that we will have had a career achievement better than the world's lazy est author does the least offering that can possibly be done and rockets to the top of the New York Times bestseller list, our show as one that is proud of the written word, the dying written word,
Starting point is 00:38:53 can't do better than that as a joke, cannot. Dan, you should take solace in the fact that you wrote more words than Stugots in this book and your name is also on the cover. Right, right. In some ways, this is a tribute to you and your long career of writing. Thank you, Dan.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yes. No money, by the way. The first writing of this kind I've done since back in my day, another best-selling book with a smaller publishing house, not quite as best-selling as Stugatz's best-selling. But now you're in bookstores, Dan-O, how about that? You, Dan Levitore, you're in bookstores Dan Oh, how about that you Dan leviton
Starting point is 00:39:25 You're in bookstores and names on the cover on the tape of Stu gots. I did it for you. Yes I'm very high on that list of money money audience. God. We all laughed at that one I did it for the audience brother. Teresa. I did it for you man. You got the author he's got an author title and Stanzig when you expect what from what goes forward on this book because I don't think I'm overstating it when I say he made this very hard for you right you had to do what percentage of the work oh if we're breaking it down that way I'd say probably in the 90% range mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:40:03 of the front end stuff, right? On the back end, I really carried it home, right? Like you're not coming to the book signing with me and Greg Cody next week. You're not gonna do that. You didn't have to sign 5,000 inserts, did you? I mean, you're not doing a meeting or a tour, are you? I mean, you can do it with me.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I'm talking about the work of the book. Listen, Stanek, I'm not gonna let Dan do this today. This feels like you guys are falling apart. I'm not gonna let him fracture our relationship. We have more to write. I'm not gonna let him fracture our relationship. We have more to to write I'm not gonna let they do it today more to your reason You're resenting signing your own name to a book you didn't write. Are you charging for the book signing with Greg? I know we're not charging. I mean Greg and I are doing a book signing together
Starting point is 00:40:37 Is included by the book they get to gots to sign it with his beautiful signature Had the page? I think you guys were talking about the audiobook earlier. I don't know how the book world works, man. This is my first time around. That's up to Random House how they do it. I don't want to ask an indelicate question. Swinging books, man.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Stanzig did 90% of the work and 90% of the money or how did that work? How did that break down? Well, it broke down in a way that I think is favorable for Stanzig. I mean, more favorable for me, but that's the way it should work. They are my takes.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I had to throw away line of my personal record book. I didn't actually have one when I said that line because who would have that? Who would actually sit there and keep their own personal record book? But Stancic was writing it the entire time. The first time he mentioned it to me was when he was producing Stupotity.
Starting point is 00:41:24 He said, I will write your book and I never thought about it much until he called me maybe a year later or so and said, I've written the book and I said, send it over and he did and I said, this is really good and that was that. He wrote a book. It was good and our audience loves it. So, thank you. I mean. Picturing Stephen King like doing the same process. Well, I just want to ask you guys. Oh, it's a hard, grueling process.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I would not recommend it to anyone. Writing books is difficult. It is really tough, especially the way I did it. I mean, when you pour your heart and soul into something for month after month after month, then it's the audiobook, and then it's a PR tour, and then it's another meeting, and then there's a book portal login.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I mean, it's too much. Where is your PR tour? I haven't seen you anywhere. I saw you on Todd McShay. This is his PR tour. I did the Art of Fatherhood. I did McShay. I'm going on some other shows next week
Starting point is 00:42:18 because it's Thanksgiving week this week. Not a good day to go on shows. Your tour is two stops. I got out of Shine today. I think I'm doing Brendan Tobin later this week. I mean, now. Tobin the Stops. I'm making all the er to go on shows. Your tour is I got out of Shine today. I think I'm doing Brendan Tobin later this week. I mean, now, I'm making all the stops. Yes, I made it
Starting point is 00:42:30 this week. Yeah, but I don't have to. I could sit back and cruise now because this book is already sold well enough. In fact, I'm thinking about canceling the entire media tour. I don't know. I just need this audience. That's all I need.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And Stancic, I mean. What does that mean well enough? Like, do you, I'm assuming you had to reach a certain amount to get paid in full or Something no, we know we get paid no matter what Stanzik I just want you to know okay as a longtime fan of this show and as we celebrate 20 years with what I believe is Just please please make this a bestseller because we can't do better than mocking everything than this But Stanzik I can't believe that I'm looking in the shipping container uh... who have been
Starting point is 00:43:06 with stugots for almost twenty years everybody and they've reached a point where they are recoiling from the shame of whatever it is that this business arrangement was i'm looking in the room and all of our free to ask your question cuz the answer might be a little too real like i i want the help of the group to do this with you and they won't do it with me. Some of them may know better, Dan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Yeah. You're recoiling. I feel shame in the other room. I can't believe you guys are still capable of shame when this is the creature we're in love with. Well, I just would have thought with the finished product, now is when Sugat shows up. You know, the bright lights are on He's there to take all the credit which seemingly is within his character or lack thereof
Starting point is 00:43:50 But he's too lazy to even take an unjust amount of credit for this because he doesn't want to do the PR tour Well, no, I don't want to do that to stanzig. It is it's it's our day. Oh really? Yeah Oh, yes, I don't want to do that to dance This is a great- Yo, chicken thot! I deserve that. You're full of- I deserve that.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Dan's afraid to join the family! I hate those chickens, man. Dan's afraid to join the family! I hate them, I hate them! I hate the chickens! Thanks for joining us, Dan Stanzak.

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