The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Miami Hurricanes Reaction Show (feat. Substitute Teacher Amin)

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

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Like, where's Dan at? It's Monday. There's a lot going on here. Not like him to... Wait, what's going on here? What's going on here? here. Good morning class.

I'm your substitute teacher. Mr. Alhastin. Mr. Levitart will be out today. We're going to be watching a movie. Oh, let's go! Oh, that's what I'm talking about. Easy day today. Can we have class outside?

You bring in the tray with the TV. It was usually the TV VCR combo, right? You knew today was going to be a good day. Huddle up. We're watching Stand and Deliver. I was going to say, what is the movie you associate? Rookie of the Year. Oh, stand and deliver, for sure.

I don't know what that is. Edward James Olman. Oh, about stand by me? How does he reach these kids? Oh, unfortunately, the TV doesn't seem to be working. I forgot that you need power. Oh, boo! Boo!

So we'll be having class instead. Let's start locally. Here in Miami, the general manager of the Miami Dolphins, Chris Greer, had a mutual parting of ways with the organization on Friday. We got to a little bit of it on the show on Friday, but Zazlo wasn't in... in class, so. I watched on the plane. I watched the Zoom coverage of class on the plane on Friday. Any notes?

No, no. Keep it all right up here, baby. I'd like you to share with the class. Well, I mean, you guys, you did a little preview of the hurricanes and that kind of deal. Mike Ryan was not here because he was in Dallas, all right? He did a recap of the dolphins from the night before. Tua with a pathetic pregame speech. My goodness.

60 minutes, give me four hours. So what kind of fuzzy math is that? And of course, you know, the news comes about Chris Greer getting fired, like right after you guys went off live. So I didn't get to hear you guys talk about it at all. It's a little weird that he gets fired and then this morning they trade Jalen Phillips. Why is that weird? Well, I just, you know, I would think that you would reserve all kind of franchise altering moves for whoever is going to get the job. Well, no, see, I think part of the main, you got to remember trade deadlines tomorrow.

And I think part of the main reason that you fired Chris Greer on Friday was because, because you don't want Chris Greer to be allowed to make any self-preservation-type moves before the deadline. You can't expect him to make moves that are going to be great for the future of the franchise when it's pretty clear he very well might be fired. So yeah, you've got to get rid of him and allow somebody, anybody else, to make moves for the future of the franchise. And that's clearly the directive right now. At this point, you just got to get what you can for everybody, right? Knowing that the trade deadlines tomorrow, like, they're saying that they're only going to take first rounders

and plus plus for Jalen Waddon. And I'm like, uh, anything that they send you is looking like a good deal. I'll tell you, I was surprised. I mean, I asked Diana what, like a week or two ago when she was on, what would be a good deal for the Dolphid to consider for Jalen Wado? And she was like, maybe they can get a fourth? I saw it was reported yesterday on NFL Network that they are going for a first. That's wild.

I mean, I don't know who would give up. I'm sure they're going for it. Right. He's not going for it, though. They probably went for a first for Jalen Phillips, too. Didn't work out like that. You had to trade Phillips, though. You had, like, I don't know, her dolphin fans.

man's mad you think that they traded Jalen Phillips? Because you were going to have to give him a contract. He's always hurt, and he's the king of almost making a play. He never actually makes the play. Almost sacks. Right. It seemed like such an obvious trade, you know, for me. Where he's got a beeline to the quarterback. Yep.

And he leaps and the quarterback throws it, right? Like the Herbert, the end of the Chargers game, like really sums up his Dolphins career. It's a game. It's a game's just don't understand. Oh, look how sad Mike Ryan is. Look, man. I wish, you know, I wanted to come in here. talking to all types of shit. You can't say anything. Now I'm just kind of like it's a dumb sport anyway. It's a very dumb sport. Yeah you're you're very much so I mean

I have the impression because I don't know you too. I'm getting to know you seem like an alright guy and I'm I'm getting the impression you're the type of friend you love to talk shit about your friend who is suffering because of something that happened in sports. Isn't that everyone here? See I don't I don't do that I don't like that it doesn't make me feel. Oh you're above that? No it's not about being above it. It's about like I just, I don't know, I feel bad for my friend when he's down like that. I don't, I don't derive joy from kicking him when he's down. The only, you know, grief, grace you get is if your team is bad and then they lose,

you know, it's, ah, you know, but when your team is good and they lose, oh my God, the nectar of the gods. So, like, you like that Mike Ryan is upset, right? Like that, and granted, I'm one of the canes to win too, obviously, but I don't know, I don't take joy in my friends being really angry. I'm honest, in this particular case, not so much because I was really looking forward to whooping his ass in Charlotte. Like, I had like this whole fantasy that. Me and Mike, I'm going to be in Charlotte. And I'll be in my Georgia Tech gear.

He'll be in his Miami gear and all this. And then at the end, I'd be laughing and Mike would be sad. And now, SMU has stolen that sadness. They stole that sadness, the ability to deliver that sadness from me. I'm going to file grand larceny charges against Southern Methodist University. Not very Methodist of them, if you ask me. Stealing? I think I'm in the minority in that regard, though.

that, like, I don't send the text messages taunting my friend who is hurting because his team lost. I do acknowledge I think I'm in the minority there. I don't send tech messages. I just make montages of the things that they said before, which will be ready later in the show. Good start from you today. Thank you. We're not talking to World Series? Yeah.

Can we honestly? We'll get there. We will. It was so good. It was good. It was good. No, not good. It was great.

It was a lot better than you guys. One of the best baseball games. Let me just say it. That was such a great baseball game. Let me just say right now. Can we all agree? My man was safe? Which man?

At home? No. He was not safe. He was not safe. He was out. He was out. He was out of the plate. You know what a millisecond is?

I like his perspective, though. Let's talk about it for three hours. What we needed was a low angle. Behind the plate, low angle so I could see the daylight between the catchers, foot and the plate. It was a clear replay. I don't know how clear. I don't know how clear.

He's starting to sway me. Angles, angles, baby, camera angles. They can show you any, they can trick you anyway. But, like, if you get the right angle, that's what we needed a three-dimensional. We needed right behind the plane at ground level, right here. Show me daylight between his four. We had it. So you needed the angle that proved that he was safe.

Yeah, pretty much. Oh, okay. Video team, let's spend a half hour trying to find this angle. They don't have it. No one has it. You know why? Convenience. Wow.

Do you guys know that when a team that plays in Canada is in the World Series? in the finals. Did you know that the ratings count as zero? You sound like the people of Canada. I'm just saying, I don't know if you guys are aware of this. When the Raptors played the Warriors in the finals, the ratings on the Toronto side, on the Canada side was zero. They don't count, right? The ratings over here count.

So it was one of the lowest rated finals as a result because you only got half the audience. But it was probably a monster number in Canada. Sure. Well, what's a monster number in Canada? I think I saw that the World Series the other day got like a 20 in Canada. That's right. Which seems like a really big number. That's like five people, six tops.

Adnan talked about it that if you projected it from Canada to here in the United States, it would be close to about half of Super Bowl numbers. So it's like $350 million or something like that. This is playing with numbers. See, Adnan, part of the media, right? They want you to play with these numbers. A proportion, of course, and he's also in the media, so that makes him a double agent, right? So you talk about, oh, if you do the proportions, you do the proportions, yeah, there's 17 people in Canada.

If eight watts, all of a sudden, that's 50%, that's the equivalent of 200 million people. No, man. You know Canada's so much bigger than the United States, right? You know the population is so much smaller. But I understand. That's what I said. I don't care is Saskatchewan. All of Saskatchewan watched it.

They don't count. That's like, there are more people in this room. And I'm not even talking about the shipping container. Then there are a Saskatchewan. You can... It's a Saskatchewan expert? I mean, I don't have some. Yeah, put it on my bio.

And so this has something to do with the World Series being one of the greatest games ever played, but not being one of the greatest games ever played because of this play. It's a great game. See, this is a bad angle. Too high. How is it a bad angle? Too high. How can I see the daylight?

They have other angles, too. Where's the ball? The ball's not in his mid either. Yes, it is. No, all they look at daylight. You see the daylight? What do you talk? The angle.

The angle. I can't. don't understand what I'm saying. The spikes on the toe are down. They're not. Very out. If we were lower, if we were ground level, we'd see that, like, from this angle, it looks like I'm touching my laptop. But if you go like this, oh, no, he's not. Right? It's because it's an above angle. You can't really tell if there's contact or not. I can't believe you guys are fighting me on this. I can't believe it either. Keep talking it out. Have you heard of Goldbelly? It's this amazing site I order from all the time. You can get the most iconic. famous foods from restaurants all across the U.S., and they'll ship it anywhere. It's perfect for hosting Thanksgiving without the stress, and with Black Friday around the corner, it's the best time to line up those holiday gifts that ship right to someone's door.

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Clutch again. Clutch again. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. What happened in that game, Mike? What happened in the essence? Look, Miami. Look, they fooled everybody. Miami this year. So you guys got to suffer that indignity too because this felt like a special season.

Miami looked a certain way. And then the same thing happened that's happened really the last four years is Miami has its tendencies. They put up enough film. Teams know what to expect. Miami doesn't really adjust the adjustment. And also there's this weird haze of when they meet adversity, they don't meet the moment. They kind of look for any kind of excuse to get out of it now they still should have survived that game unfortunate that I'm not going to be a 40-year-old man complaining about the officials but there was a strange game what does your age have to do with it well you reach a certain age where you don't want to be like the refs cheated guy but you know it was you put it in their you put it in their hands you got to make catches you got to be

disciplined I don't know why the center keeps playing he very clearly cannot adhere to the rules of the game really really a huge bummer it felt like a special season. We know that when Miami meets its ceiling and plays clean football, they can hang with anybody in the nation, and yeah, it just sucks. This felt like at least a college football playoff team. Now, a month is an eternity

in that sport. They have no chance of done. Yeah, well, do they know? Look, man, Alabama got blown out by a really mid-Occlahoma team, and 12 days later, everybody was saying how, if they were in the playoff, they'd win the national championship. A month is an eternity, and you have

the weird situation where they have a win over Notre Dame. Notre Dame is cruising right now. The committee is going to want to put Notre Dame in, but Miami's head-to-head matters. I don't think the season is necessarily over. And quite honestly, I really am curious to see how this team responds because Mario Chrysabal is a big, like, culture, disciplined, toughness guy,

and the team is not reflecting that. And I thought we had the locker room right, so they need to respond. Let me ask you this question. You said they didn't make the adjustments to the adjustments, which seems to be a thing. I'm a basketball guy. When I hear that, I think of Mike Booneholzer, who really good coach, smart coach,

but it's philosophically opposed, in general, to making adjustments. Because he's like, if we do what we're supposed to do, it doesn't matter what they do. That's kind of his way. Is that Mario Cristobal, or is Mario Cristobal just not good at making adjustments? Seems like both.

In a weird way, it seems like both. Honestly, like the offense was doing outside runs. We were doing creative stuff with Malachi Tony. I do think that there is a conservative approach. Now, you may see the interception, which, by the way, was Malachi Tony's fault at the end. You have a guy that's been so locked in with Carson Beck. He was supposed to flatten out that route. But I thought Carson Beck actually played kind of well.

He was pretty accurate with the ball, and he made some big plays. There were some unfortunate penalties that called some big plays back. But, you know, the ACC comes for us all. I mean, the ACC comes for us all. Yeah, Mike, I can't help but notice you're doing a press conference thing or ask you a question. I'm hugely bummed. I'm hugely bummed. Like this team, this team, I think I haven't been this hurt by a team. Even last year, we blew a 21-0 game at Syracuse.

Yeah, but this team was better than last year's team. You knew that last year was a deeply flawed team and you're just like, let's get into shootouts with Cam Ward and getting into playoff and get to Charlotte. No, you felt like this team could do something. Yeah, you felt like this could be a special season. Now, you do have an opportunity to win back-to-back 10-win seasons and show the nation that you can be a consistent winner. I do think that that's important. I do think that watching how this team responds under Mario Cristobal is hugely important for the future of the program. But you can't help but feel like, man, that is such a bummer because we waste it an opportunity there.

ACC is only going to get one team. You would think, given the reputation. Which, like, Miami's got to look good. Miami's got to perform. We can have that conversation in a month from now. Like I said, November is a wild month in this sport. Four weeks is an eternity. I do think that Miami will be back on that bubble conversation

because they were in the bubble conversation last year. So if they meet that resume that they had last year with a better defense and signature wins under their belt that they didn't have last year with the added complexity of Notre Dame being in that conversation and them having a head-to-head win over Notre Dame, I do think that there's more hope than it feels right now. But right now, you've got a real problem, and it seems to be intangible because it comes down to discipline

and how you meet adversity, and they get Fs across the board. I guess I would just add, like last year, yes, they didn't qualify for the ACT title game last year either. Did they finish third in the ACC before that game? Like, were they the first team out? Yeah, it was screwy. Because right now they're seventh. No, they have no shot at Charlotte this year. No, no, I'm not talking about a shot of going to Charlotte.

I'm talking about will the committee look at them as a team to give an at-large bid? They didn't last year when they were third in the AACC. They did. They did look at them last year. The conversation was South Carolina, Alabama, Miami. I mean they didn't put them in. And right now they're seventh in the, like they're not going to vote in the seventh best team in the ACC. You're going to have teams that have three losses in the SEC that they're going to be dying to put in. And I do think that there will be an interesting conversation.

And they're going to be dying to put Notre Dame in. Well, that will be interesting to see how that the head-to-head has to matter. It has to. I think it would be pretty BS. Well, how much does the head-to-head matter when the game literally happened at the start of the season? The head-to-head has some matter. But it's never mattered at the start of the season. Like, that's been the thing for every team when it comes to the playoff is you judge the team.

based off who they've been. Yeah, you're a different team at the end of the season. We can have that conversation for weeks from now. They're probably going to lose another f***ing game because they're so undisciplined. It seems like a ridiculous conversation right now when you got the most emo goddamn team looking for any excuse to give up. What were you most angry about in the end?

If you had to pinpoint one thing. The penalties. You look at that box score. You're wondering how the hell you lost that game. SMU ran for 23 yards. Most of that was in overtime. I was really disappointed that they seemed to quit after the interception. I was disappointed that they still have this conservative approach to not trust in the quarterback.

Carsonbeck is going to throw interceptions. You've got to live with that. You got to let the guy go. Yeah, but really, it's the penalties. We gave up 100 yards in penalties. Now that, I think Tim Reynolds pointed out that that crew has done a couple of Miami games. And Miami has been called for 21 penalties and their opponents have been called for Do other conference, do fans of other schools and other conferences complain about their officials?

The way that the ACC fan complains about ACC officials. ACC officials are bad. Ruben Bain gets held all the time on that illegal man downfield. This wasn't even a conversation because the camera sitting catch. Malachi Tony straight up got tackled. He straight up got speared tackled while he's running a route. Not a conversation. They pick up the flag on the DPI on Keelamarian.

Are you mad about the fourth down rough in the pastoral? I am hugely mad about the rough and the passer. Lightfoot holds him up. That is, come on, that is not the spirit of the law. That was BS. Miami could have survived that game and taking the lessons from it. I'd kind of like the officials to understand the situation in that spot. But ultimately, you had an opportunity to control that game.

You blew it and you put it in the official's hands and you deserve to lose that. Why are you making a face? Look, I understand why people are super happy. No, but look at him. He's making a face. Yeah, we've got a bunch of pepos over here. Come on, bro, the zebras, bro! What are we doing? What is the second game?

Again, another ACC loss. I mean, that's what this program does. You lose in conference games, and you don't make it to Charlotte, and then you don't make it to the playoff, because that's what Miami is. What happened to UCF this weekend? Oh, the UCF nights don't exist. The UCF Citronauts exist, and they're undefeated. There 8 and O in the history of their program. What?

Space Week. UCF got beaten 30 to 3. Yeah, bad program right now. I'm not going to do that. It doesn't matter. I honestly don't think we didn't have any expectations. No, everything. But you have championship expectations.

Everything that Jeremy said was true. I think that this season feels especially disappointed. It's a byproduct of how this program got our hopes up. And there's a lot of people with egg on their face. A lot of the smartest people that cover this sport all thought Miami was for real. And they folded. It's really sucky that over the last two years, when this team loses, they lose inside the margins and one score games. and there's always a play or two that could change a season,

and it's just not breaking their way. And quite honestly, it's the lack of discipline when you have a disciplinarian head coach that drills that all week in practice, and yet you still play the same guys that keep making the same mistakes, there's got to be accountability there. He's got to show something. I got to say for the audio audience, y'all can't see this. No, I'm devastated, dude.

It's not just devastated. You are doing textbook, press conference, behavior, you haven't made eye contact with anybody or even a camera throughout that entire soliloquil. Although you are looking around as if you are looking at different people to talk to, but none of them are ever the camera and none of them are any of us.

I'm bummed. I haven't been able to shake it. It's yeah, a crushing loss. That's the other thing about college sports that fascinates me. Is there any other sport in the world where ultimately the championship or who competes for the championship is

decided by a committee that says, not you when you think about it it's incredibly weird like every level of sport in the world in the world we all go we compete

and then okay those guys are the winner I do think it's really ridiculous and it kind of boggles a mind for someone to speak like they know what's going to happen four weeks from now in this sport sure I mean the CFP took so many twists and turns

in the final two weeks last season so that's you trying to make it sound like the canes still have a shot here. I think if they put up four straight weeks of playing clean football and having a 10-win season, we'll find ourselves in the exact same debate that we had last year with a much better hand, with a Miami team that's lost two games by one score. On the outside looking in. We'll see, Jeremy. But for the meantime, shut the fuck up. Marking it. I'm going to put everything Jeremy said was right in the love. If Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.

Oh, come on. Yeah, I would be. Aggressive description? I mean, what is it? What is that? I'm just saying. You know what? That's me.

That's me. Daniel Day Lewis does something. I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. And you know what I do? I mean, Stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do.

Lincoln, who you outed the other day? Don't make this a rejoin. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Okay, so going back to the Dolphins. So you guys are telling me, this is fire sale time now. Like, you know, everything must go, 80% liquidation. Yeah, every man for himself kind of situation right now. Yeah, yeah.

Like I said, trading away Jalen Phillips was an obvious move. You can't possibly pay him. It had been so stupid. All right, so there you go. And the next one they should move on as well is Bradley Chubb. Like, there may be someone there. Like, Bradley Chubb's best days are behind him, all right? If Phyllis got a third, what does Bradley get you?

Fourth maybe. If that? Because you also got to understand, like, Bradley Chub makes some money. You know, so fourth maybe. And if someone wants Matthew Judon, come get him. I mean, the Dolvitz picked him up off the street at the beginning of the year. I would trade all three of the past rushers there. And is there anyone else?

Minka, maybe? Well, yeah, they're definitely not, you would assume they're not going to keep Minka. Like, it doesn't make sense to give him a contract extension, which I know he wants. Paul, you guys. got to keep. A chain you keep. Chop Robinson. You build around Paul.

I think you probably keep Jalen Waddle, too, to be on. Like, you do have to have some good players on offense moving forward. I think you do probably keep Jalen Wado, even though he's clearly not a number one wide receiver. But I think the pass russers, like the pass russers. Like, the pass russers are going to be the guys that teams in a winning situation are going to want. It's like training for a relief pitcher at the MLB deadline. Like, every team is going to want a relief pitcher.

Every team's going to want a pass russar. Unless you're the Dodgers, because you don't need one, apparently, and you only need to throw your starters to win game. The guy who started game six. Yamamoto, amazing. You guys want to hear from Big Mac on the firing of Chris Greer? He's been out on Chris Greer. He's the guy from downstairs.

I just want to make sure the audience knows him. But we get his takes on the Dolphins, and he's not a Chris Greer guy. Big Mac's take of the day. Oh, yeah, we got rid of the Joker. Next is Batman and Rob. And you know who that is. Big Max, take of the day. No, that's a very well-crafted take, man.

I love him just. I love him just. Batman and Robin, huh? He goes, and you know who that is. And then I keep walking, and he's like, it's Tua and McDaniel. Yeah, it was done. Just in case. No, that's a good take, man, because some of the listeners are like, wait, who's Batman and Robin?

And then he breaks it down for you. You know who that is. It's Tewan McDaniel. The reports out there. really make it sound like Stephen Ross may tell the new GM that he wants to keep Mike McDaniel after this year. That's kind of something we were talking about earlier. It really sounds like this month.

It was like, why don't you just keep him, have the new GM kind of build players around the system that worked a couple of years ago, right? You scored 70. You had the best offense to it through for a thousand yards, you know, a trillion yards. Like it works given the right players in the system. Now the problem is did all the NFL defenses figure it out and now the system doesn't work? Where's Ryan Tannehill? He never got hired.

At home, yeah. He's like, I'm too good for this backup. And then, like, just never. He's just chilling, right? Yeah. Now he's like 40 and packing a beer. I think he's like 40. Ryan Tannahill, man.

That dude's old. Flacco's 40. How about Flacko this weekend? Look, I know they lost. That arm is live. With a sprained, a sprained throwing shoulder. He said, give me 400 in the air. Tannhill's 37 years old.

That's close. It's knocking on 40's door. you hear that that's 40 that's 40's 40's door actually that's 10 hell out the door I missed that one up knock not not not getting on 40's door it is there you go that's musical impression for the suey's good teammate thank you but like this I feel like this is all tied to a weird all-chips-in mentality on tour someone who has never shown the consistency in terms of help or anything else to say you can go all in on me. And that's the part that I keep going back to how they managed all of this from the

beginning. From the very first time he had that concussion and that season was magical and then it was kind of ruined, right? They never like said, hey, we need to start building this thing with the eye that he may not be around. If he's around, it's awesome. He's around and he's good. It's awesome.

But if not, we have contingency plans of winning games, whether that's with a competent quarterback, backup quarterback, whether that's with others facets of the game. They never did that. It was always like, if two is out, we're screwed. If two is not too, we're screwed. Yeah, but I would add, like, how many teams in the league have a competent backup quarterback? Like, this is every team. When your starter gets hurt, you're completely screwed. That's every, no one's like, all right, nice. We got a good backup. He'll come in and win us some games. No one has that. But

it's not about win us some games. It's not about, oh, this thing keeps humming. It's that shit doesn't fall apart completely the moment we a backup in there. But you can say how many teams have a guy who can come in and win games. How many guys are going to do the Matt Castle, 12 wins or whatever? Sure. That's a rarity. But in terms of can we just not completely fall apart?

I don't think that's a kid. I don't think you're right when you say, I mean, look at San Francisco, right? It's not that Matt Jones is amazing. Oh, my God. How did we not know? It's a he's competent enough so that this thing doesn't fall apart while Purdy's out. Well, it seems that the coach had a system that was specifically designed for this quarterback. That's what I'm saying, contingency plans, because the system designed for this quarterback is cool,

but if this quarterback was someone with a little bit more durability. I'll tell you what bothers me, though. So there's several things that we're reading right now, right? Where McDaniel, it seems like he's going to stick around after this year. He's clearly not being fired during the season. He may stick around after this year. Fight through, buddy. Give me a second.

Thank you very much. I apologize. Take all the time you need, man. The second part, lost my train of thought now. Okay. Oh, no. You're on it.

We'll find it. Daniel. Let's help him find it. Grab that rope. Help me. It's dangling. It's right and problem. Saying that it's dangling doesn't help me regame my thought.

Yeah, it was something about Tua. Oh, yeah. So the other thing I'm hearing, though, just start your point from the start. Okay. The first thing you're hearing is it seems like Mike McDaniel may still be the coach after this year. The second thing you're hearing right now is that Tua, it's going to be incredibly hard to get rid of him.

I can't do another year with these guys, with McDaniel and Tua. Like, how does a general manager, you're telling me whatever general manager they wind up hiring is going to come in here because you'd like to believe that the new guy, hey, do you like this coach? Do you want to keep him? I'm giving you the opportunity. Do you like this quarterback? Do you want to keep them? I'm giving you the opportunity.

You're telling me that whatever general manager comes in is going to be like, yeah, of all my options in the world, I like what I've seen from Mike McDaniel. I'm keeping him. And of all the options moving forward, I like what's going on with Tua. I'm going to keep him as well. You like a guy who is durable at the quarterback position, who gets rid of the ball quick,

who can do all the little things in a smart way, who doesn't throw interceptions because McDaniel schemes you open. How about Stephen Ross, bringing a new GM, gets him to trade Tua, gets Tom Brady out of retirement? And now Brady to the Dolphins finally happens. he's not doing great at the broadcaster thing. You get that off of everyone's mind. You get him back down here in Miami.

As the New England Patriots are emerging and the Buffalo Bill seem to be going, you know, the opposite direction, but at the same time are still hanging around at the very top. Beat the Chiefs. Instead of that rivalry. And how about Tom Brady out of retirement? That fixes everything. I like it also because he gets to distance himself even more than he already has from the Raiders.

Again, we don't talk about that anymore. Remember, he's like, Tom Brady's going to come in here and go to the winning mentality. And I was just like, ah, I just kind of know Mark Davis. We're not, we're not boys like that. Like you hit me up, he asked me and I say, yeah, why not? Why not? Who's going to be there?

We're all going to be there. Sell your steak there. End up a little steak in the dolphins. What's just saying? All I'm saying is, all I'm saying is this could be a pretty decent quarterback class in the NFL draft and the dolphins are going to have a high enough pick that they better select someone.

That's the thing is, even if, even if a GM were able to trade him, whatever genius plan that that is put together, that guy should get a raise. Just cut him. The thing is if you cut him, you're dead 110 million dollars. So what? Broncos two years later, a good team. Yeah, okay, but look at the Saints who are in salary cap hell because of what happened with Derek Carr, and now you're looking

around saying they're the worst team in the league. But if you draft a good quarterback, the way Sean Payton did, it doesn't matter. And like, just draft the right guy. It's developing a guy too, right? Like, Bo Nick's, if he didn't go to Sean Payton, he'd be a backup somewhere. Correct? Maybe. Maybe.

Like, that's what we're looking at. Michael Panix. like a guy who sat behind. But I hate the idea that they can't just cut to it. Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can. Like, they're going to be shitty either way with a dead cap hit or not. Yes, you can. Does Tua have any, not that that would bear into your decision to cut him or not.

Is there any potential for Tua to have a Daniel Jones, Sam, Donald, Glow up post-Dolphins? He's so limited. I mean, my case is too. Like, I don't think it's, like, I think he's washed. I don't think he's a good quarterback anymore. I think once in a while, once every few games, you'll get a good game. when a couple years ago was once every few games

you get a bad game it's the opposite now I think he's washed so my answer is no I don't believe that I mean we saw those other guys look pretty washed

in their own right maybe not in the physical sense no I don't think they're washed I think we were thinking that they're just not that good we hadn't actually seen the potential coming out yet we have seen it with Tua

and he's not that guy anymore like we've seen it with Tua on this exact team it's the same scenario So that's why I think the situation is a little bit different. And the reason you look at those guys and see them have success is like they always had the physical tools that could make them good. They were being strong guys. Exactly.

Two was in the same situation. Looks physically different, right? And he doesn't seem to be a guy that was ever going to all of a sudden figure it out. He figured it out early. Now you have all those guys have crazy. Arm strength, the ability to move around. That's a different thing than what you get with to a skill set. Like, I mean, I know it's a hard thing for us to do, especially we're talking about football players.

And to say, just with us watching it, to say that that guy looks like he's playing scared. But how many times during that Baltimore game on Thursday night, where there plays made out there, it's like, yeah, he looks like he's scared playing quarterback now. Zaz, what did you think about his comment that, like, about his height? That's the first time I've ever heard. Even though for years, short quarterbacks were discriminated against in the draft. because, oh, he can't see over his line, and it took guys like Doug Flutie showing, like, oh, it doesn't matter that, and Drew Brees.

I mean, two weeks before that, when's the last time you heard a quarterback talk about the other quarterback they were going against and Josh Allen and say, I'm not as good as him? Yeah, I mean, it is pretty weird. Like, it all feeds into what you're talking about when you talk about fear. It's like, I don't think this guy believes in himself anymore, right?

Like, the fact that he's saying, I'm too short to see over the line. I'm like, that's like, you never say that as a short quarterback, because that's the first thing people think when they're trying to evaluate you know who's not saying that drew breeze you know who's not saying that bo nix you know who's not saying that baker all guys that are shorter than him that are that play really well even now while russell wilson sucks you're not going to hear russell he would never say that he would never say that what is tua's plus attribute i mean it used to be that

he was accurate right okay no like that's the only thing arm strength no leadership not really durability no speed no athleticism no his height no arm strength no And now apparently he also doesn't get along with the coach anymore So it's like what is his thing where you trot him out and you'd be like I'm very excited that he's going to do X. Nothing. We're paying him a lot of money. We can't take it to $110 million the cap.

And he won't retire. That would solve everything. Just trade him for nothing. If you trade him for nothing, at least it's half the cap hit. I think Barry Jackson put it out there earlier. If you trade him before June 1st, it's like $45 million as a cap hit as opposed to the $90 million. It would be if you cut them for. But you don't think that there's a team out there, not one team that's desperate enough to, or even swap bad money?

I think the biggest thing is, if I'm another team, I understand the dire straits of dolphins are in. And I'm doing the Sam Presti. I'm like, I'll take them. You got to give me some shit with it. You'll give me a couple of picks. So then it turns into, is Tua so bad for your team? No, I'd rather to take the dead cap it. Absolutely not.

Like that's the difference with the NFL and the NBA. you know like no in the NFL I'd rather just take the 10 cap although we've seen that twice in the NBA Bradley Beale and Damien Liller this past off season they were like yeah I'd rather just cut bait than have to give up things to get them off of my books so I mean it does happen but like again I think this all goes back to you went all in

the problem is you want all in financially structurally everything with a bad hand you went in with a bad hand you went in with a gut shot the gut shot and all of a sudden you didn't have the you didn't have the glass You didn't have the reader, you didn't have the card shuffler. You didn't have anything. You said, all right, I've got this.

And everybody around the league's like, okay, you're going to pay him that much. Nobody else would have. If not Tom Brady, the announcer, I mean, I'd even rather maybe have Tony Romo come out of retirement and be my quarterback. What was he doing there? So like a fourth down that was really sure he was trying to see. But it sounds like something else. Can you play it again? And you'll see right here.

Hold and then another hold right there. I think it was... I gotta tell you, many a time in my life, I've tried to hold and then hold again, only to end up saying... You gotta fight sometimes. It's hard. You can't fight. Sometimes you can't fight. Sometimes you can't fight.

Sometimes you just gotta let it go. You think about baseball. You think about anything else. Margaret Thatcher on a naked, naked on a cold day. Baseball's not helping me fight. I say baseball, and Jeremy starts thinking about that World Series game, and he goes, What are we talking about? Have you ever tried to hold it and then hold it again?

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