The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Moment of Silence for MJ's Drive

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

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than the one and only... Dan Lebatard. Oh my god, I had to do a two-hour stream with him last night and it happened right when that Bulls game was ending. We had Nick Wright on and it was crazy, right? Dan, I could see Dan, who's obviously not here, he's out of town. I could see him like want to parachute back in and do the show today and I said, no, no, we can't do that. We got it. We got it from here.

But the second happiest person has to be Stephen A. Smith. This is like the exact other side of the coin from the Pacers game, right? Pacers game happens, LeBron's in Indiana, he does Pat McAfee, they post all the memes, him and Kevin Love are tag teaming, like the, ha ha, look at Stephen A. Smith trying to box and all that stuff. And then LeBron has a tip in to win the memes, him and Kevin Lover tag teaming, like the, ha ha, look at Stephen A. Smith trying to box and all that stuff.

And then LeBron has a tip in to win the game, and it's like, top of the mountain top. That's why you don't mess with the big dog. And then literally one night later, LeBron has that turnover, and then Josh Giddy of all people hits a half court shot over him. And I know somewhere, Stephen A. Smith popped.

Just straight up explosion of ecstasy, right? But there is someone who is the saddest person in all of these proceedings. It's not LeBron. I don't think he said, I mean, it happens. He can play another game, they'll play Memphis on Saturday. We move on, right? It's not the Lakers who are seeing their playoff seating

in jeopardy here. It's Skip Bayless. Do you understand Skip Bayless spent over a decade. This is a great day. Right, like needling LeBron, calling him all sorts of names, trying to bait him, like acknowledge me, just acknowledge me once, come on, I dare you. I'll debate me here and all that stuff, right?

And he did a show with Stephen A. Smith and he was doing this. And he did a show with Shannon Sharp and he was doing this. And then he did a show with Lil Wayne and a bunch of other people and he was doing this, right? And then he stepped away from doing the show. Said, I'm gonna go chill in my house. I'll do some stuff on YouTube.

That's definitely how that went. Right? With Jodine. He has his own show, right? For Ernest goes right so like it's like alright, okay? Well, whatever we gave it an old college try 20 years. It didn't work alright, and then the moment he steps aside Not only does this thing happen it happens to Steve and a Smith and not the skippily I've been here this whole time I've been saying while shit time Why did've been saying wild shit the whole time. Why did you acknowledge me?

Why did you run up on me? Isn't that connected though in some ways? Is it? Because isn't it probably why LeBron, when he felt the comments from Stephen A. Smith was probably more disappointed in Stephen A. Smith and he doesn't care what Skip says. And that's probably just hurt Skip even more.

Of course. That it's like I not even looked at with enough respect to get under your skin. The most aggrieved party here is Skip Bayless. Because not only did it not happen to him, Hawk, he doesn't even have that opportunity to go on air across the nation, nationwide TV, and do his thing. He's in a straight jacket.

Yeah! You're at the crazy farm and all of a sudden it's like, ah, that was me! And they're like, okay, Grandpa, you're, yeah. Like, I was the one doing that first! I was the first one. Sure, sure, okay, yeah. And also, Dak Prescott trade rumors,

he's probably losing his mind. Talk about Dan wanting to parachute in. This is how I feel when I see crazy route footwork videos going viral nowadays, or like a bunch of short receivers in the NFL being superstars. I feel like I'm in that straight jacket. I'm Skip Bayless in that situation. The funny thing, I was short first!

The funny thing is just that, is that idea that you say that and on some level, you're right, but everyone looks at you like, oh, okay. Okay, old man. Get a load of this guy. Maybe it might be bedtime. That good CTE is acting up again. The fun CTE.

See, it's messed up, man. I do feel, now I feel bad for Skip Bayless and I did it before you started this take. It's sad, man. It's sad. And like, legitimately, the feeling of, hey, man, I created this thing. I championed this thing. I champion this thing.

And then someone else is gonna take it from me and make it way more popular to the point where no one's gonna acknowledge where it came from. It's gotta be. That's the most frustrating thing. I gotta be honest, I mean, I hadn't thought of him this entire time. You're the first person to actually invoke his name.

It's you. Revolving this story. It's me, it is me. He's probably grateful for this because, I mean, granted, I know he loves to take, right? He wants to weigh in on this, he wants to have the outlet, but to not have a platform to not even be thought of, that's kind of cruel. I think I'm just now realizing that Steven A and skip had the same take this this whole time

That was confusing right? But I guess he was doing his villainy thing. We're not exactly fully opposite of Stephen a Feel like my childhood. They were on the same team with a lot of time. I feel like my childhood was a lie is It was Stephen a doing the ultimate yes, and We're no, but he was doing no, but he? Or no but, he was doing no but. He was doing no but. He was doing no but the whole time. Yeah.

Right, like every time him and Skip would get together, Skip would say this and he would no but him as opposed to yes and him, which is great for debate television, right? That's exactly what you want. But secretly deep down inside, because like think about all the things that Stephen A said, right?

Like, that's why I never liked him, he's a backstabber. All these things he said on first take the next day, it's like, oh man, did you always feel like this? Apparently. And I saw a clip of Nick Wright's show where he's like, Jordan texts Stephen A, LeBron doesn't text Stephen A, and that's basically this whole thing.

And I was like, why am I just learning that Jordan texts Stephen A? Why wasn't this agenda more clear to me? What happened? Jordan texts all his main guys. Does he text you? I mean, there's a reason why he's coming to the funeral. Jordan's coming to my funeral.

Jordan's not coming to your funeral. Jordan is not coming to your funeral. He's coming to my funeral. I just gotta make sure I funeral. He's coming to my funeral. Jordan's not coming to your funeral. He's coming to my funeral. I just gotta make sure I die in North Carolina. Jordan who? Ori Beasley. Hopefully he's there. Belfort.

You gotta die in North Carolina while he's there. Preferably at like maybe the 17th hole. I wanna show. If that's where the wake is. And you can grab a cocktail on the way there and just kinda wave. And you have to walk through the wake to get to the parking lot.

Yeah, you have to, no one can talk during his backswing, no memories of a meme during the backswing. It's quiet during the backswing. Like the moment of silence is for MJ's drive, not for a meme. His putter has to be positioned right by your casket when he gets on the green of hole 17. Yes.

And that is the only way he will be at a Means funeral. And his memory of you will be directly tied to his performance on that hole. Like it needs to be a good, the very least par. The very least par. And someone had to have bet him before he got to the golf course

that he bet he could not go for par and go to your funeral. That's a parlay, right? A literal parlay. A literal parlay. That's good, yes, that is the only way. If he eagles, he might speak. He might share his thoughts.

Ooh, oh wow. Well hold on now, you've got, I've this whole time I've been fixated on Michael Jordan being at my funeral. I never consider Michael Jordan saying a couple words. Yeah, provided that everything is at the 17th hole at his local course and you work it out with his tee time, he will definitely speak provided he eagles.

Yeah. Oh man, okay, let me get on that. And by speaking, he's gonna ask where the bathroom is. No, hold on now, you're not gonna do this to me. He's not coming to your funeral with me. He's coming to my funeral. He's not. This is what we do on Fridays.

I would be willing to bet so much money. Let's put it in your will. Sure. And if I'm wrong, I will give this money to your estate, to whoever you like, whoever you're leaving all your assets. Yes, I like that. And this is kind of doing me a disservice

because Mike's gonna see this and he's gonna consider it a challenge because I'm saying something you won't do. Andrew Hawkins couldn't do it. Andrew Hawkins couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. I'm saying something that Mike Jordan can't do. He is not coming to your funeral. And that's when he took it personal.

He might take that personal. That is my honest belief. I want to see someone else take it personal. Let's take a look at the shot that Josh Giddy hit here. So awesome reason, just made a layup. Right? Go ahead and run it. Inbound, Josh Giddy brings it up. Exactly half court over LeBron, might I add.

Crowd goes nuts. I understand you tried to provide some context. There was a layup made before him. There was so much that happened. There was so much. It was like the craziest 15 seconds. Yes, the entire segment sequence, we'll play it in a second,

but I wanted to show the shot itself because this was Dan LeBotard's reaction, his live reaction at finding out that the shot was made go ahead. All right Luca is inbounding it LeBron breaking open to the top he gives it to Reeves Reeves to the basket lay up good oh LeBron never even touches the ball the balls are out of timeout. Giddy from half court. No, it is good. No, no was about seven mezcal's deep at that point. You could tell by the hue, that rich hue in his face, he was fueled off of lots and lots of alcohol and was absolutely beside himself. He actually falls back in his chair after that.

There's a shot of him with his feet above his head, and then he flips over, and then Valerie comes and checks on him. If you didn't see that, you gotta watch it. It's all on YouTube, the whole thing. All two hours of it. There's another person I wanna point out, because we had Dan's reaction, we got Nick Wright's reaction. And you know how, I don't know if you guys

believe in reincarnation. Do you guys believe in reincarnation? Sometimes... Mike's not coming to your funeral. Okay. No, well... You're not gonna also be able to be there. You're gonna be there're not, Mike's not coming to your funeral. Okay. Go ahead. No, well.

You're not gonna also be able to be there. You're gonna be there. Buddy, I'll come to my own funeral, how about that? Hey! Resurrection, hey! You know, some people believe in reincarnation. Some people believe in whatever that thing was from the movie Fallen.

You guys remember Fallen with Denzel Washington where the spirit. Yeah, file. File, exactly. The spirit goes from person to person, right? The spirit of Stugas was in the building last night because Josh Giddy hits that shot and they cut to the crowd and there's a dad and his kid, I think, Scorsade and they're jumping up and celebrating. And this kid, ladies and gentlemen, he's holding a Laker jersey in his hand.

This kid was rooting for the Lakers. Josh Giddy hits that shot. Jersey comes off. Let me jump up and down with everybody else. Ladies and gentlemen, it's two gods. We found them. Right there. That's him right there.

Man. It's one of the more insane endings to a game. Oh, man. Especially the way the Bulls have been playing recently. Like, this is, dare I say it, this is the feel-good story of March, at least, right? For sure. They're cresting in an insane way.

And you know why they're cresting Mike? Why? Because Disturb played a concert at their arena and damaged the banners. And I said on that day, now they gotta put up new ones. New banners. And Kobe White said, heard you. So did Josh Getty by the way.

So did Josh Getty. Getty's been playing insane. Well he's down with a sickness. Is that a disturbance? I don't know how to answer that because there's things that happen. I don't know what that means. So I'm gonna let you know.

I don't even know what that means. Me either. I'm just gonna say yes. But everybody's response tells me it's something I shouldn't touch. It's not for your demo. Okay, perfect. It does work multiple prongs.

But I was really doing the, oh, wah! Dang. I still don't get that. So I haven't watched a bunch of NBA games that you guys well know here. But I did catch doing that. Oh, wah! Dang. I don't like it. I still don't get that. So I haven't watched a bunch of NBA games as you guys well know here. But I did catch this ending. And I do feel like Amin is not doing this game justice. No?

You come out with an agenda. I had an agenda? You had an agenda. You come out with the Stephen A. Smith, LeBron, you let that story continue to go on, you give it another day of life out the gate. Then you show just the last shot of that game, which is maybe 6% of that.

The story, and again, I'm not the basketball purist, you are. This is the game that you protect, that you love, that you champion. This is maybe the best ending of a basketball game that you will ever see, period. Now look, the stakes aren't playoffs, championship, but in a vacuum, not only that,

Giddy airballs a floater over LeBron because he's scared. He's having a great game. He's like one assist shy of a triple double, and I know all this because it's literally the only three minutes of basketball that I've watched this entire year. But it was pretty good. Good three minutes.

I'm like, damn. It's a good three minutes of pick. It's like when you jump in on a show that everyone else is watching, like you watch Game of Thrones, and you're like wow, I see what the hype is. And you jumped in on the best episode. Giddy Airball's a floater from point blank range

after having a great game. I think we have the entire sequence. We should. Here we go. I don't even know if we're allowed to show this, but we're gonna show it. Who cares? Let's get fine.

It's not my money. You got a corner three right there from Williams, from Patrick Williams. Corner three. And this is after the air ball. Stolen. Stolen. Giddy with this, I think that was his.

Giddy with the steal. That was his triple double assist, I believe. And Giddy with the assist. But, to Kobe White. But do you know who Giddy stole the ball from? Do you know who Giddy stole the ball from? Yes you know who giddy stole the ball? Yes, I saw it It was an inbound from LeBron from LeBron like for that from the peak of I won the game with a tap To I threw the game away. I threw the game away. That's the thing. It's that's an uncharacteristic

I mean if you stop the game right there. Yes I mean if you just inbound the ball if you if we all just died at that moment Then yes, you could. But they ended up scoring a great play because of the attention on LeBron. Reeves goes right to the cup. And at that moment, we thought the game was over. And it was like, oh, that narrative is not

no longer going to be there. How about Patrick Owens in that three, by the way? I was going to say that. Like, if you're JJ Reddick, you're like, come on. It's a miracle. And then there's the Austin Reeves layup. then and here comes no timeouts bulls inbound get it back to the giddy Great defense. Well, it's gonna be on giddy there, right? Yeah, I mean you get the every the most dangerous guys are everywhere else man LeBron had a hand up

It was a close out to the side. It was a heave from half court It was a great shot by Josh giddy the The most dangerous guy was Josh Gidey. Who's the most dangerous guy? The guy with the ball. Thank you. That's always the most dangerous guy. So this was our version of March Madness in the NBA. Meanwhile, college basketball had a very different

March Madness. Hold on, are you gonna? Transition, yes. To college basketball? Yes. All right, can I give a disclaimer really quick? Okay. This might come to a shock.

A shock to a lot of people. I have no idea who's won a game in the March Madness poll. What? Okay, it's not because I don't like college basketball or March Madness. I promised my kids that I would do a bracket. Okay. And I've been really busy

and haven't had a chance to do a bracket yet. And so I've been not watching the game so I can still do my bracket and be ethical about my picks. Wait, hold on. You guys are going to do a belated bracket? They have done theirs. I have not filled mine out yet. But I have not... Oh wait, so you're going... Hold on. Second chance bracket is a real thing, but you missed the start of the Sweet 16. But I haven't seen any of the games yet.

He's starting from the beginning, not knowing who won anything. I have no idea. So he's guessing who won like McNeese State versus Iowa or whatever the game was or Clemson. Yeah, wow, that's so if we're gonna do spoilers I'm gonna have to cover my ears. Well, we have one spoiler. Okay, two spoilers two spoilers. There was four games last Well, no, we're not gonna talk about all all we're just gonna stop unless you have I've got I've actually got an update We'll give me or you give it to me the toasted bracket update Oh March madness is brought to you by Jimmy John's They're back and they're finally here and they're hot try the new toasted sandwiches at Jimmy John's order one today That's a big bag of chips right there. I mean they hooked us up with the with the real. Yeah, dude. I love jalapeno

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and I saw the box score and I said to myself, I didn't know they could do that. Any of that. You mean score? Like score 113 points in a 40 minute game, hit 25 threes, attempt, 53s, 51 threes. I didn't know anyone in college could do that. And I'm not talking about this year,

I'm talking about anyone in college ever. Because I've seen so much college basketball and most of it is garbage in terms of production. You see flashes of brilliance, like, oh, he's good, oh, he could be good one day. But in terms of like, hey, we're gonna put together this product and we'll call this basketball, typically it's not good.

It's exciting because they're trying hard, but it's not good. Like, it's not good. What is that voice? This is like, oh, I like college sports. That's the college basketball purist voice, who's like, it's better than the NBA, because they try hard. They try hard every game.

That's the effort voice? Yeah. Jeez. But here's the thing. We've talked about it earlier when I gave you the secret sauce for March Madness with the secret sauce, right? It's not that the collection, it's not that the games are great. It's the collection of games are great, because there are so many.

Yes. If you look at the actual games, they suck. Most of the time. Most of the time, except for when you get to the actual games they suck most of the time most of the time except for when you Get to the actual good teams in the lead a final form whatever but Hawk for you just because you're watching any of them. Thank you secret sauce. What do you think the secret sauce is? Oh, yeah, it'll be tournament. I think it's because the collection of games not only the question of games who's playing in them Yeah, what is what is the secret sauce to the collection of games?

So when you want to talk about a deep tournament run, magical performances from a team, right? There's a necessary ingredient, and we call it the secret sauce. You need it. The secret sauce, you need to have it. Every champion has this thing. Has the secret sauce. Every champion has the secret sauce.

NCAA champion. Every NCAA champion has the secret sauce, the secret sauce. White guys. White guys. There it is. Same thing. And basketball, same thing.. Ah, white guys. There it is. And basketball, same thing, underdog, white guys. But every team that you see in March Madness

that makes a run that has something fun, secret sauce, white guy. I went home yesterday, Tony, and I thought about it, and I went and I said, what about those Florida teams that dominated with no one? I said, Lee Humphrey, secret sauce. Then I went to Kentucky, wait a second, what about Patino's Kentucky teams,

with Antoine Walker and Derrick Anderson and Tony Depp? They sent like 100 pros, Jeff Shepherd, right? That one guy, it's the secret sauce, remember, it's not the entire recipe, it's you need that extra little kick on the side. Is it that the white guy is like a main part or just that he just needs to be there? He needs to briefly be the main character.

Briefly have that moment. But it's like for a shot. Have a moment. Could be a shot, could be an assist. It's a shining moment if you will. Thank you. Okay, okay. Now is that reverse engineered?

That would be my rebuttal, right? Well, I hate to literally start. Is that little moment not even a big deal, but because that moment is the white guy doing it. That's a ticket. That's a ticket? All right, that's what we're unlocking in here. Yeah, like we're not drawing up plays for the white guy.

Well, the press room was pretty sick, but you know, there's white guys everywhere. Yeah. The statistics. And so there's like this hot new theory that NIL and the portal have killed the mid-major, which is why you're getting less of the secret sauce. For one year.

And less of the, which is. For one year it's coming. If I may, I'm confused because we had Jim Laranaga on our March badness broadcast, and I saw Jim Laranaga, and I really don't understand where he's coming from. He tweeted something to the effect of Happy Portal. Well, he's like Happy Portal,

where you can lose your entire roster, and he's famously shared this story about how after Miami made the final four run, everybody on his roster came to him asking for a raise. It's just, what, may I ask you guys, what are we doing here? Because Jim Laranaga, okay, the big baddie that ruined everything in Miami is apparently NIL or the Portal, I don't know which one he's talking about

to be fair, he could be talking about the Portal, he could be talking about NIL. Well, hand in hand, right, like if you don't give me my NIL, I'll go to the Portal. Right, Miami, basketball, did pretty well with NIL. Yes, and the Portal. Made a lead eight, made final four. They lost, Jim will try to convince you

that he lost his entire roster the following year. He did? No, he didn't! Oh, no? No, he didn't. He lost Zay Wong, and he lost Jordan Miller. Now two guys that have been in and out of the league, good players, replaced him with a first round draft pick

in George, who's playing well for the Wizards, and Matt Cleveland who Jim Larranaga loved and wanted, and twice now said, I prefer him over other guys. So he brings in a first round talent to a core that made it to the Final Four. You still have Pac, you still have Omer, you still have Wuga. What is happening here? They fell off a cliff with all that talent.

And the following year, he followed that up by getting Jaleel Bethea, who was the number one guard coming into college, and then he quits on the team midway through the year, but it's NIL and the transfer portal stole. I'll tell you what it is. I'll tell you exactly what it is, Mike. Give it to us. I have a theory, too. You ever meet anyone who's in an open relationship? You ever meet those people?

I don't hang out at those bars. I mean, you're giving us a glimpse into your life right now. You mean the upside down pineapple thing? The upside down pineapple thing. Jimmy L's a swinger, is that what we're getting to? I'm not a big cruiser. Chris, though, he's on one right now. So not necessarily swinging but like open relationship

meaning like hey man me and me and my my old lady like we have an open relationship i can see whatever you see whatever. Inevitably for all those people it's great when i'm the open part when the other side is the open part wait a second hold on now what are we doing here that's the exact same thing it's like it's cool to be in an open relationship when you're the one who gets to bang everybody and your significant other is dutiful at home and just waiting for you when the significant other takes advantage of The open relationship now all of a sudden we got a problem And that's what Jim Lerner goes, but he wasn't being taken advantage of like no No, the following year after he followed up a final four season with getting a first

round draft pick in his roster, we brought back the entire core. So who's doing this? Who's the boogeyman that's stealing your players? You didn't lose anybody. The NBA, no. That following year, which was one of the more talented Miami teams of all time and one of the most disastrous seasons of all time time only followed up by a more disastrous season that caused him to quit midway. It just, it doesn't hold water. And he's a nice guy. I love Jim.

Greatest coach in the history of the program. Love the guy, but he keeps perpetuating something that's just flatly not true. He made it up. It's not, it's not a thing. We had Seth Davis on the show saying the NIL spent, I'm like, guy, I know we got Bethea. Like it's not it's not a thing here. We had Seth Davis on the show saying the NIL spent I'm like guy I know we got but they're like it's not a real thing. I Have an unchecked theory. Oh, cuz I think you're right. Do it. So I'll need somebody else to check this I don't know if we have no no no checking. We don't check around here We just get theories how old is the coach and I don't want to be an agent is pretty old He's pretty one of the oldest. Yeah, one of the oldest. I think it's an energy thing. I think it's a, I do not feel like recruiting

in the portal as well as recruiting high school, as well as recruiting my own players. And I feel like a lot of the coaches that have expressed that issue or said, I'm not doing this, they all come from the old guard, but it's like, it's a lot. Hock, you are 100% locked in. Wow.

That is what happened here. Unchecked theory? Guess what? Just got checked. Yeah. No, it's flatly what happened here. He can be frustrated with the process. He lamented plenty around boosters and the collective about this process.

It's why a lot of people, look, on the women's side, Katie Meyer also retired because of a similar thing Even though she had success at it, even though the collective Helped fuel a deep run in their tournament. They went to the elite eight But it's just he keeps perpetuating a false narrative because it's convenient You didn't have the energy to keep up with the times. It's totally understandable my guy But it's just a lie and it's become fact you you didn't lose anybody to another school with the times, it's totally understandable, my guy, but it's just a lie and it's become fact. You didn't lose anybody to another school

after the Final Four. You lost two dudes to the NBA and you replaced them with NBA players. It's just not accurate. Yeah, so you're actually taking advantage of the portal in NIO as opposed to being cursed by it. Also, great replacement on the women's basketball side and Coach Cullop, big fan.

Yeah, oh, that's right. I forgot that. There's a connection. There's a connection. She was side in and coach color big fan. Yeah. Oh, that's right The connection she was the Toledo she's got the energy for she's certainly got the energy I got another secret sauce team by the way. Watch how you watch you watch how you say that. I said, holy Toledo Batman You said oh Toledo. I felt the energy Be careful with the secrets. Well, this is a secret from he already wrote down Alabama. He knows that he's gonna write Alabama Yes, I'm talking about secret sauce team from the past. Oh, from the past. What you got?

0203 Kansas, Jayhawks had two. Oh, Kirk Heinrich and Rafe LaDoodoo. No, Nick Collison. Nick Collison. When was Rafe LaDoodoo? Was that before that? That might have been before. Let me check.

Hock, are you going to watch? LaDoodoo. Are you going to watch? It's not, how is it pronounced? LaFrance. Oh, OK. Are you going to watch the games or just like catch up on the results? I am probably just like catch up on the results?

I am probably gonna catch up on the results. Okay, because there's like a character that gets revealed in the first round that by day one is a darling and by day two everyone is sick of. Hates, yeah. Really? By episode two?

Not a player. Yeah. No, no, no, no. You said too much. No, no, no, no. You said too much. Not Sister Jean. Not Sister Jean. Not Sister Jean.

Not Sister Jean. What, is she alive? Yeah. Okay, is her team any good? No. No. It's crazy how her team's dead, she's alive though. She probably took Miami's first Final Four run away.

Jeez. Yeah, remember that Lonnie Walker team was loaded. That's right. Miami was gonna make a run. They lost to Sister Jean in the first round and they made it all the way to the Final Four. I wanna get to this story here, it's on the list. And I wanna get to it, part of it

because this is a very interesting story. But more so because I was outraged by the reaction of one Ethan outside at the table. So. This basketball? This is not basketball. Okay. So this, I don't know, maybe you're like Ethan, maybe this might be a revelation to you too.

So Mike says, hey did you hear? They declassified the files on the Ark of the Covenant. And my mind goes to the warehouse and like, oh they found the box. Like it was an unmarked- Remember the box in the warehouse, a million boxes in there. There's a million boxes in the warehouse. So how do we go through every single box to find it? How do we do that, right?

And so as Mike is starting to explain the story that we'll get to in a second, Ethan says, what's the Ark of the Covenant? Again. He said it again, he said, what's the Ark of the Covenant? Again. Because he knew it at one point.

I've heard it before, but I'm not quite sure what the Ark of the Covenant is. That's how Ethan sounds when he talks about things. When he talks about things. When he talks about things that you should know, young man, you sound like that to me. That's what your voice sounded like, Ethan. Is it possible?

Juju put it on the poll? Like, do you know what the Ark of the Covenant is? Everyone knows what this is, right? And I'm not saying because you know it from Bible study. Well, he's supposed to be an Old Testament guy. Well, that's the other thing, look. Where's he from? Where's he originally from? He's from Florida. Bible study. Well, he's supposed to be an Old Testament guy. Well, that's the other thing. Look, where's he from? Where's he originally from? He's from Florida. Bible Belt. But he's a man of the tribe. He has M.O.T.

Yeah, so the Old Testament at least, which is where... Should be locked in on that. Conveniently, Arthas of the Covenant. Dialed on the ark. Arthas of the Covenant. Come on now. Can't let Hitler have it. Exactly right. That kind of weapon? That was not in the Old Testament. Can't let Hitler have it. Exactly right. That kind of weapon? That was not in the Old Testament. That was in Indiana Jones, but it was canon. What about the part where you can't look at him? Eyes closed.

You can't touch it. Part of it. You can't look at it. Keep your eyes closed. There's something to that, by the way. And again, I know people think I'm being sarcastic. This is declassified. This is real.

The CIA confirmed the existence of the Ark of the Covenant. They tracked it down by using a psychic, and if you think that's ridiculous, just look into their programs. That's crazy. Okay? Look, it wasn't just Hitler who was into the occult. I mean, it's like steroids and baseball.

You can't let the other guy cheat. Exactly. You know? You gotta cheat too. And if the other side is using psychics, then you use psychics too. So, like, they found it, and and they even in the declassified documents say that it's it was guarded by entities This is real stuff. That tracks by the way. I'm not kidding. This is kind of my mind's a little blown right now

I'm not this is the first time There's a million fake articles out there that got me but they all look pretty legit. No, I'm with you I saw I saw the declassification. I saw the pictures. I saw the videos. Here's the- Dude, you didn't go through like 30,000 documents. I didn't have to.

That's what happened to declassification. To be fair, the aggregator said that the entity part. But they could say anything, too. Of course. Does it look like it does in the movie? You don't have- They could get close. They couldn't see it.

It was like a crude entity. They only felt the entity buried it was buried underground They say where that's my issue. They can't tell you What how much did they classify? By the way between you and me, I think it's an Ethiopia. That's what I've done my research and it seems to be an Either way, there's some stuff there in Ethiopia By the way, if you look into a little church that they have in Ethiopia The oldest church in the world right priests that are there have had some weird things a lot of them die very young

Radiation poisoning we don't know what's going on there, but that's happening You haven't gone to the pyramids that you've been wanting to talk to about Everything's connected guys Argentinian Trump was was declassifying things too, and there was like Hitler stuff there. No I didn't Possible there's I'm just saying that's being declassified too if you're gonna get into massive declassified stuff, baby. I love it Wait, so we declassify the lottery files What lottery the draft lottery NBA lottery files look man? We already did that on basketball Illuminati did we? Keep your third eye open. What was the conclusion?

You're gonna have to listen to that episode man. I'm not gonna give away the secret sauce. It's classified. I have secret sauce on that show too. I haven't seen the NCAA tournament. You think I'm gonna go back into the archives to listen to the lottery files? Man, look, do you wanna find the Ark of the Covenant or not?

All right, I'm coming. I'll be there. Hey, 1966 UTEP minors NCAA championship team. You just Googled Glory Road. Yeah. I got it to bunk the theory. They weren't called UTEP at the time.

Well, whatever. Texas Western. The Black College of Texas. I don't know what they were called during Jim Crow. Who'd they play against? Kentucky, you know, all white Kentucky team. How much should Tim Harrely go for? How much should Tim Harrely go for?

The opposite of Hoosiers. They lost. No, hold on. But it doesn't matter if you lose. No, hold on, like Riley how much did Timberlake go for? The opposite of Hoosiers. They lost. No, hold on. But it doesn't matter if you lose. No, hold on. The story. That was back when the secret sauce was actually black guys. Yes.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Also, damn it, I didn't consider that. Also, the starting five was black. They never talked to us about 6 through 11, though. That's true. Very true.

6 through 11, there's a different story. It's got to like the Hispanic guy there. He made it. He made secret salsa. Texas Western. If I may just circle back to the Ark's a different story. It's kind of like an Hispanic guy there He made it maybe even see me see it's also Texas If I may just circle back to the Ark of the Covenant, yes Yes, so if we track down where exactly it was in the 1980s There's no way that we just conceded well can't get to it guarded by entities. We sacrifice some dudes I'm telling like we move this thing. Oh, no It's definitely in DC though, you can't touch it.

It's definitely in DC. No, Mike. Nick Cage is gonna find it. Mike, Mike, I know that we attempted to touch it. I don't know if we were successful, right? So you're right, people were sacrificed, cause Jenkins, get in there, it's like, oh okay boss, and then he melted.

And then like, Rollins, you go in there, like okay, Johnson, I was up in there like, and like several hundred black soldiers later, Secret sauce. They were like, okay, maybe we can't touch it. And so they had to figure out something else. And that's where Dr. Henry Jones comes in. Miriam, don't look.

Keep your eyes closed, Miriam. And they managed to create it, right? Remember, the whole thing is you gotta take the poles. Those wooden poles, you gotta stick them to the side. And then you put them up like that like pole bears. I just can't believe that we're here. It shows you how feeble our minds are. Because it's,

you know, we're in the 2020s and the government has told us, yeah, those UFO things that we always told you were fake when you were growing up, no, they exist. We don't know what was behind it, but no, they are definitely real, and we just keep moving on with our day. Like, we saw movies about how hypothetically,

if this were to happen, it would be on newspapers everywhere, and we just like, nah, I can't comprehend that. I got my own, can't deal with that right now. Same thing with the ARC. Tournament's going on. Number one, you can't, yeah, exactly. exactly can't blame people. It's March madness number two This to me is a much bigger story than UFOs much bigger life

You're saying yeah life on other planets. Okay, the existence of God the existence of God and also still not to be messed with Well, that's very true. I always rationalize the the UFO thing with you know There's just so many theologies, and that kind of thumbs its nose at it, right? Like, if I am to accept that there are alien life forms elsewhere that are behind these UFOs, then I have to take a look at my own theology. This one actually confirms, like, a pretty big one, or a couple of them, right? So you would think it'd be processed a little bit more, but everyone's just kinda looking at it like, this is ridiculous, it's fake.

Well, it's there. Here's my issue with it, right? It's the fact that the psychic, we only had one psychic do it, or do we have multiple? Do we have multiple sources here, or was it one guy or one girl like, oh my God, yeah, no, I see it for sure, it's underground. Oh, we can't get to it, it's guarded by entities.

Yeah, sorry guys. What's the check? 50 grand? Are you, okay, I think for the second time underground. Oh, we can't get to it, it's guarded by entities. Yeah, sorry guys. What's the check? 50 grand? Okay, I think for the second time in this segment, we finally found where Stu got to. With the CIA? Yeah, he's a psychic. Weather is starting to warm up,

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