The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Origins of WFAT

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

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doesn't mean we took the day off. Here at the Dan LeBattard Show with Stu Gotz, we are always there for you, particularly on Mondays. And we've got a full show coming at you that's full of New York Knicks content. Why they had me, Jeremy, do this intro, considering this is Knicks content, I have no idea. Where's Stu Gotz?

I don't know. But we have a full day of shows coming at you that we've specially curated, because it's been over a year since we started WFAT and the Knicks have dominated our show in a way that is overwhelming and to be quite frank, very surprising. When I was hired here, I didn't expect this much Knicks talk,

but this local hour is actually the very first time that we ever referenced WFAT as Stu gots was flirting with WFAN This is coming off a game six loss in the first round of last year's playoffs for the Knicks Tyrese maxi dominated for the Philadelphia 76ers. You're gonna hear some really funny Responses to that, considering the context to your year later. I really enjoyed listening back to this episode. I hope you do too, and I will explain what the big suey, hour one and hour two are for you as you get to them.

But for now, enjoy the origin story of WFAT. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the Stugatts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Stugatts is a star and he has put his imprint on everything we do around here.

And a lot of people, Stugats, have noticed Billy yesterday yelling from the back row saying, did we become a New York show? When and how did we become a New York show? And a lot of you have noticed, and because there's so many conspiracy theories out there, you are right, conspiracy theor theorists on this one Stu gots did try to get that job at WFAN as program director so he could have all

the power and control and fire everybody and run the world but they weren't paying enough and they didn't have enough to lure him there so he's decided to make us something that feels like WFAN, W-D-A-N, WFAT. WFAT. WFAT, I like that. What we're going to go with is WFAT is what we're doing. And Stu Gotz is a little bit broken today, and this one hurts for a number of reasons, but because he just started caring again. Yeah. Last night. He just gave them his heart moments ago this season because he doesn't trust them for understandable reasons.

And if you did not see the end of that game, the big game of basketball last night, even as Milwaukee wins without two guys, that Orlando Cleveland series, they can be- You can tell me anything and I will believe you in terms of what happened in last night's game. Tell me anything, I'll believe it. Go ahead. In the Orlando Cleveland game? Yeah. Tell me anything. Cleveland won by one point. I believe you. Yes, but I could say

anything. Nobody's watching that series because at the same time, and I think we can say this, the Sixers and the Knicks are basically equal in this condition. If I make him beat healthier, the Sixers would be better, but the Knicks are basically equal in this condition. If I make him beat healthier, the Sixers would be better. But the Knicks got one game at the end that they stole. Now the Sixers steal this game in a weird fashion at the end. But what Maxey did to bail and beat out, what Maxey did to save the season of the Philadelphia 76ers, that is what basketball players live for to play in that building and do that to that crowd where you're feeling so confident that you're pulling up from the

logo in front of Mitchell Robinson your foot you're 35 feet from the basket to tie the game. I mean Brunson just had that same exact feeling at Philadelphia like players live for that they love that doing it on the road shutting the crowd up. I have never been so confident at anything as Maxey was taking that last shot and regulation saying my seasons on the line I don't care who else is out here I don't care how far I am from the basket I'm gonna steal New York's heart from in here and then let's check in here with the celebrity reaction because this was undisputably funny where you've got a number of celebrities who are courtside and they are just broken.

With about 90 seconds to go and for good reason a celebration broke out at Madison Square Garden because everyone thought we were going to win the game and advance onto the playoffs, you know advance onto to the second round And so I understand that some people are embarrassed today because they were over celebrating But I was doing the same thing. I was celebrating as well. Look we've been talking about Nick's fans celebrating There's John Stewart That is the face right there of you would think that America over the last 10 years Just the things happening in America,

did that to Jon Stewart's face, but only the Knicks can do that to Jon Stewart's face. It's just what Bill Simmons looked like last year. It's exactly the same face. It's uncanny. There is another picture that is great that I noticed one thing and not the other in it. Tracy Morgan, it's not a great picture,

and it's got a lot of crud in it, but Tracy Morgan is shooting a middle finger at Maxie as he walks off the court, but what I notice there is Ben Stiller next to Tracy Morgan. The amount of rage on Ben Stiller's face. I don't know, I don't know if you guys, did any of you guys see Mystery Men? Oh, it's a classic, yes.

Sure. Okay, Mystery Men, I should tell the group that doesn't know what this movie is. It's a movie about superheroes that were kind of useless and incredibly human, but they had superpowers that were useless, and Ben Stiller's superpower was he was Mr. Furious all he would do is get like enraged but he couldn't do anything with the rage other than get mad would he grind his teeth he looked

like that he looked like mr. furious there and a superhero with no powers it's Tracy Morgan wearing like official uniform shorts in this picture? Like I'm 95% sure that he is. Definitely is. I think he is, yeah. Those are old school Knicks basketball shorts, right? Those are 90s Knicks basketball shorts?

Those are like issued uniform shorts that he got to wear to the game. Just in case they need him to check into the game. The middle finger. How good did Maxie have to feel? You walk past those celebrities and you've enraged them. Look at Ben Stiller's face. He's still down three, two, Maxie.

Yeah, but. That felt good for him last night. It did. It had to feel good for Maxie to do it in that building. It's not in beat. It's Maxie winning and beat a game. It's Maxey keeping their season alive at Madison Square Garden. That had to feel good. Mitchell Robinson is the problem though. Before we start

celebrating Therese Maxey, Mitchell Robinson, if you're listening, if you're watching, you owe me a game. You owe me a game. You owe me a series, you better come through in game six or game seven. You change the math. The Knicks are up six, Maxey hits that three. Let him hit the three. Why are we fouling? Why are we letting Philly make it a two-point game? Then Hart comes down, he comes down, he makes one of two with the three-point game, Maxey hits the three from half court. If there's no foul by Mitchell Robinson, it's a four point game, Dan,

and Maxie's three doesn't matter and he doesn't have that moment. Mitchell Robinson, listen to me and listen to me clearly. You owe me one. You owe Nick fans one. You owe us a game, you owe us a series. Make up for it in game six. I thought he was pretty good last night.

He was great right up until that moment. They did. I mean, they were both teams were just so sloppy turning the ball over all night. The Knicks started the game. I texted Taylor when the Knicks I think they started out like 0 for 8 shooting and I texted Taylor and I was like, this is your fault, buddy. This is your fault.

They looked so bad to start that game. Didn't they have like 0 or two points six minutes into the first quarter So the game like four nothing seven minutes in pretty much were we all heckling Taylor because I was texting I'm just laughing face emojis. Yeah, I think we were actually who else was heckling to I felt the need to back away Not my place anymore fans certainly were how much do you think all the Nick celebrities sitting courtside if we would have pooled together Some money that they would have pooled together some money That they would have all just been willing to pay for a different result. They're all rich people We could probably god there is there's no amount of money

They wouldn't pay Chris like Ben Stiller would have paid three million dollars for more Ben Stiller would have paid five million But Ben Stiller would have said I will never be in a movie again As long as we win this game. I think he goes six Who's saying seven anyone say seven seven? Nick's win Nick's win Tracy Morgan got super rich by getting hit by a truck, huh? Yeah. Well, he was super rich before. Well, no, not, no, no, no. When he jokes about wanting to go out

and he puts a lawn chair next to the expressway because he wants an Amazon truck to hit him next because he got so paid by a Walmart truck. 90 million he got from Walmart. Wow. He did get pretty rich, yeah. That's a lot of money. 10 million Tracy Morgan.

Makes you wonder. He hasn't had to do a lot of work since then. Well, no, when you got $90 million, you can kind of just do things on your own. He had a show like on TBS or something, right, called The Last OG, is that what the show was called? That was it, yeah. Pretty good show, and I think that was post-truck.

But what are you wondering? If you should get hit by a truck? I mean, it's a little dangerous to get from our parking to the building now, and I have thought, I mean, it's a little dangerous to get from our parking to the building now, and I have thought, you know, one false step here and I could be set for life. Stu, when you say Minstrel Robinson owes you a game, it sounds like you're saying you wanna play him one on one.

Well, it also sounded like you were calling him Minstrel Robinson. Well, I wasn't though. I was just, I wasn't though, Dan. I was trying to get to Mitchell, Menstral Robinson Dan I was trying to get to Mitchell I stumbled at the Mitch John Cooper over here I'm just saying that's what it sounded like Mitchell Robinson at the end maxi made that shot over him Stu gots and As I'm watching two of the games in this series I have seen

Heartbreaking endings on both sides that scar fan bases ten years later This this series has had two now two endings so Disorienting and and crazed in terms of how it makes you feel the balance of the series is going. Yeah to have the cruelty Stugats because you know how much I love The history that gets baked into fan bases This century the New York Knicks have been irrelevant. That fan base, Generations now, are starved for winning basketball so they can go back to telling you

that last night in the garden, those kinds of night, those are the best in basketball when that stuff happens in the garden. This is the reverse of many years ago, Larry Johnson having a four point play where he was fouled against the Pacers and it's the loudest sound I've ever seen or heard around Madison Square Garden people remember Larry Johnson in the street now for just giving them that moment this is the reverse of that last night this is

this punching you in the face you're on the wrong end of wait a minute we were gonna have our first important playoff series did you see how we celebrated when we won one against LeBron one game down 3 nothing right confetti from the ceilings did you see how our fan base celebrated outside of Madison Square Garden last year when they were fighting it out with Trey young and winning a game here and there did you see the lunacy where these New York fans have been waiting 25 years to get this kind of loudsugots and they were ready to pour into the streets last night and

Maxi took it from them Dan for the first time since I think the 90s I looked at the Pacers roster just to see how we match up against them. I mean, that's the part about it That's cruel. It can happen in game two. It can happen in game three It can happen in game two, it can happen in game three, it can happen in game four, but when it happens, when they're this close to feeling like this is over, we no longer have to fear Maxie. Oh no, now we have to fear him more. It's also the kind of pain that I think Knicks fans weren't expecting as much from this team.

Like, Knicks fans are so conditioned to expect the worst and pain and horror at any given moment. And this team with Brunson, where Brunson actually comes through, they feel like there's some sense of, okay, we're up six, even with four more points that we're still up two, and then it just disintegrates,

and it sucked the air out of that entire place. I don't know if Knicks fans are as superstitious as I am, but I have reason to believe that Taylor, not just by being in the building, cursed this, because I have inside info that he was requesting a prop cigar before the game to be able to celebrate when the Knicks won last night. What does that mean?

What is a prop cigar? Not to have an actual cigar to smoke in the arena, but to have a prop cigar. But you explained to security, like, no, no, no, this is a prop cigar. I don't know what to tell you. He wanted a cigar so he could celebrate inside the Madison Square Garden.

I can't get mad at Taylor. Message came in at eight p.m. We were all celebrating. I looked up the Pacers roster. I mean, we were all celebrating. How'd that stack up again? Did you look up your roster? Dale Davis, no longer a Pacer.

I mean, it's the last time I looked. Stu, what'd you see on there? Yeah. I saw Halliburton. Nice. No Rick Smiths? No, I didn't see the dunking Dutchman. Taylor told me he's 0-5 career at Knicks Playoff Games.

If you're 0-4, Stay away. why did he request to go to this game? Stay away. This is on him a little bit. I mean, because he went for free. All he had to do was sit down. If I'm 0-4, I'm just like,

I don't want to do this to my team. If you're a Nick fan, you're conditioned to think this is going to end badly. That the Sixers are going to blow them out in game six and then they'll go to Madison Square Garden for game seven. It will be a close game and Embiid or Maxie or someone will limp through the entire game. Then all of a sudden they'll be healthy in the fourth quarter and hit a big shot and we'll lose. That's how it's

going to end. If you're a Knicks fan, that's how you're conditioned to think. This series is over. You are... I'm all over the place. You're furious and you're already bobbing emotionally. I don't believe though that that's how Knicks fans feel. I have never heard this kind of confidence from the Knicks fans in the last 15 years that they have going into the love of this team,

going into how they feel about the things that Brunson is. Stugats, you know. He's great. No, but Stugats, got this part the part i'm about to tell you where people get their regional sports identity and are made to feel like losers by their franchise who get furious at james dolan it's one thing to have a team that you kind of like because they win

but this team whose roster does not merit to a two in the East, the roster, this team that is viewed as gritty and underdog and how can you not love these guys? Look at what they're doing to the stars in Beaton Maxey. They're doing it with grit because Thibodeau is tough and Jalen Brunson is undersized. When you feel like a team represents you personality wise as an underdog and you latch on to I like the way this team represents me and my city it hurts when you care like that when you get into hope and then it gets

betrayed your hope gets betrayed and the Knicks fan base has been broken over the years by this, and they're daring to hope again because Hartnestein has lured them in with his offensive rebound, and Brunson's too small, and my God, Josh Hart has no business being that physical at 210 pounds. I love my little team. I'm kind of understanding now why everyone's hated

the Heat for so long, because Heat fans have always been overly confident. And I've gotten a taste the last week of Knicks fans being that way. Yeah. And it's fun to watch that lose. This is fun.

I'm enjoying this. But Dan is saying they're going to be confident, just as confident, headed into game six in Philadelphia. Is that what you're thinking? I think that Knicks fans believe in what this team represents more than they have in the past because of how they're identifying With this little team can do it against anybody. We're against the odds. It's us against the world Nobody believes in us and they're just forgetting all of the previous heartbreak to give This is the person who keeps getting cheated on by a partner and keeps going into the relationship

Trusting daring to hope again that this is the one this is the team they could give their heart to Lehman just texted me. It's a dance bitten He was really sad last night it was a oh it's crushing it was brutal It's cross it's it I cannot tell you how much it hurts to give your heart over to a team, but worse still when you know better than to do it. I'm a Notre Dame fan, I do actually know what that's like. Stugats is, I mined Stugats for so much good shit

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Don LeBattard! It's a three, the crowd goes into a delusion. Winning in the playoffs not an illusion. It's a heat check he's on fire. Stugats! Harry Osh, Jalen Bronson Thumbs up clutch that's why we won New York knows you are the best

Not the joke no more This is the Dan LeBathard Show with the Stugats! I'm gonna go with the scored the first five points at overtime unbelievable video can you guys just so i mean it is to win that game but you guys tell me video there's plenty of this all over the internet find me some good stuff and be careful because some things get said that shouldn't be said nix fans in the street how they behave outside of madison square garden after a single playoff victory nevermind with championship hopes to god's because nobody in the country thinks the nicks have any championship outside of Madison Square Garden after a single playoff victory. Never mind what championship hopes you got because nobody in the country thinks the Knicks

have any championship hopes. Right. Nobody in the country, only New York thinks that. There is no one else. I told you the betting odds before the playoff started. You could have gotten a better bet on the Warriors, on the Heat. The bottom of the play-ins had better odds to win the championship than the Knicks, but Knicks fans are loud and dying to be hopeful, dying to remember that feeling from 1999 when you did it to other teams and you made Pat Riley.

Pat Riley, the guy who betrayed you, Pat Riley, that took all that stuff to Miami. You made him cry at his desk, and Alonzo Mourning had to come in the room and tell him to go talk to his broken team. Go do your bleeping job, Pat. You did that to him with a bounce, and it's the last time the team mattered like that.

They've been dying for that in New York for 25 years. I can't help but admire Kn's fans in some sick way. It might be because I'm married to one, but the ability to still believe. To brush it off. Not even brush it off, just to care so much. My husband can't even talk about these games. Before the games, he's like,

I can't talk about what could happen. When they were going to be the two seed, I was like, oh my God, they might be the two seed. And he was like, I actually can't talk about it. And I was like, oh. That allowed to. It's like that bad. But I also, there's something really admirable to me

about erupting when your team wins one game. Like caring so much, like going so hard, even in Philly. Philly fans didn't show up, like Knicks fans showed up, and to be that broken and still care and still give it your all and celebrate when you've almost won a game. Let me explain this to everybody. Knicks fans are the best, and Knicks fans are the worst. Yep.

They're what you want a fan base to care like if you're someone who wants to steal their money as a business person. It's what you want them to be in the streets. This city gives itself over to that team they call it the world's most famous arena they say all the free agents want to play there even though none of them do ever

they think it's the biggest sound that can be made because they're still talking about willis reed in the seventies yeah they're still talking about what that franchise was you remember what granddaddy said about the nicks and since then they've been a punchline they had the pat riley years they had the years where the most relevant thing about them was playing against pat riley beating pat riley and then for twenty years it's been quiet until they want to play off game and then for 20 years, it's been quiet until they win a playoff game, and then they roll right into the street,

and they are the best, and they are the worst. So why the phones keep ringing at WFAN, Dan. That's correct. That is correct. Have we gotten the imaging that we need to become WFAT? I'm stunned that you chose that over WDAN. WFAT. Wow,-N. W-F-A-T-U. We are. W-S-T-U.

Go sit in the penalty box. What? Me? Wow. Who else would it be? Who else would I? I just got here. There's always a chance it's me. That's wrong. Justice for Charlotte. Wow. There is always.

It's good to check, because there's always a chance that it's me. Or Jeremy. That it's you. Yeah. Listen, she's been penalized enough this morning. She saw me shirtless. Jeremy did breathe though.

Yeah, that's true. Why were you shirtless? It's a good question, Jessica. Smoking shirt. I appreciate you asking it, even though we addressed it earlier in the show. Yeah. He was in the garage.

This is weird. Who were you saying hello to, shirtless, that Charlotte overheard your gravelly voice from nearby? I was changing my shirt. It had some stains on it. It smelled, and so I had a second shirt. I can't remember who came before Charlotte, to be quite honest with you,

but I did belch out, hey, shirtless. So did you have a clean shirt on when you left your house and then it got dirty or you just? I'm smelling this from a mile away. This is a daily thing. You wear a shirt in the car, smoke on the way, and then you're like, let me get rid of the smoking shirt. Is it the same shirt every day?

No, it's not the same shirt. To be honest, this morning I put on the shirt that's in my car right now, it felt a little snug.. To be honest, this morning I put on the shirt that's in my car right now. It felt a little snug. And so I said, you know what? I'm gonna grab a comfortable sweatshirt. I know this one fits. I know it fits well.

Doesn't matter how much weight I gain. The thing always fits. So you're not wearing a shirt. Well, no, I'm wearing a sweatshirt. And I started off the day with a black hoodie and I changed it to the green hoodie. Do you never wear shirts under your hoodies? Never.

Really? So now you're shirtless in the garage now. You're smoking. So now your skin smells nice. I did not have a cigarette while I was shirtless really. It was before and after. We're doing a Costanza thing where you have to take the shirt off before you go to the bathroom, but you're having to smoke.

It was snug. I had a couple of heaters on the way in. I had the green sweatshirt which is very comfortable on me. Feels nice on my skin, very soft on my skin. I'm so confused. That's how I changed. You don't wear shirts under your hoodies ever? No, it's a sweatshirt.

My theory was is that he accidentally was still wearing the same clothes as yesterday and then thought someone would notice so he put a different shirt on. We've all noticed but we don't even have to say anything anymore. Am I the only one that wears shirts under hoodies? Of course I do. No, of course not. Why would you do that?

No, I think everybody does. I'm wearing one right now. I think you're unusual. It's 84 degrees outside. So why wear a hoodie? Well, because it's cold in here. Put it on the poll, please. And I'm fat.

At Levitard Show, WFAT, where you get all your calories and information. Put on the poll please at Levitard Show, do you wear a shirt under your hoodie? I thought everyone did that. Less layers, man. But I do have a lot of questions, I really do, because I mean, you're a professional broadcaster who's had some success.

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guys i don't know what to do with this you guys really need to help me because i've got Stugats in a state of disrepair you You've married to somebody for 20 years. You can feel sort of the daily rhythms of life of how you do things. I haven't seen this particular thing on my friend in a long time, and he's muttering under his breath, okay? And the last three years have been hard for a number of different reasons,

but I hear him muttering under his breath. They're gonna be getting calls all day today. for a number of different reasons, but I hear him muttering under his breath, they're gonna be getting calls all day today. Sal's gonna do a 12 share. At least. Nobody in New York. He should be embarrassed if he does a 12 share today. Nobody in New York has to do their job today. You just open the phone lines

and let the acid spill into your lives, and he rubs that sports radio on his nipples and he misses it. The opening monologue today, do away with it. Just give out the phone number, take calls for the entire show, mail it in. Mail it in and get a 25 share in New York City. This is his.

I haven't felt this alive since Joe Mauer made it to the Hall of Fame. I mean. I would love for Stu Gots behind me to show you what the program director meeting would have looked like when he started his sports lineups day and just kept hitting the board just hit the numbers. Bring me numbers. Absolutely. I don't know what could have happened last night to make sports radio easier Than making Stephen a Smith give you commentary from his bed yelling and snorting because he's so mad at the New York Knicks And just people I don't think totally understand how much

this city cares about this team because to God's there's been a generation of people who don't know what it's like for the Knicks to be relevant right so they don't remember what the fan base what your daddy's fan base or your granddaddy's fan base they don't remember what it was went back before the Knicks were a laughing stock here's the thing with New York we could talk about the Jets and the Giants. You could talk about the Rangers and the Mets. You could talk about the Islanders.

You could talk about some of these other teams. At its core, New York is a basketball town. It's a Knicks town. It's a Rangers town because those two teams play right in the middle of Manhattan. And the fans love those two teams, but especially the Knicks. We have two football teams to choose from. we have two hockey teams we could choose from.

We are saddled with one basketball team, and it's the Knicks. And they haven't been good in a long, long time, and now they're decent. It is very hard for me to explain to the audience how much this fan base cares about this team. You'd have no reason to understand that if you were 20 years old. You just would not understand what got grandfathered in in that city because of exactly what Stugatz is saying. No, this team plays in the middle of the city. This team you can get to through public transportation. This is our team. This isn't the Jets out there. This isn't the jets out there.

This isn't something in New Jersey. This isn't something I have to go outside. No, this is the city. This is in the heart of the town. And this is why they get so mad at James Dolan for ruining the sacred thing for them. The celebrities don't go to all the other games. They don't go to all the other teams. This is the game they go to. Football you have a choice. Hockey you have a choice. Baseball you have a choice.

In New York you have no choice with basketball. It's the Knicks. That's it, period. We all come together for this one thing and that one thing continues to disappoint us. So the Nets are Cat Daly's Nets. No one cares, no one cares. They literally have a choice though. But it's Brooklyn. No one's choosing the Nets. It'saly's Nets. No one cares, no one cares. They literally have a choice though.

But it's Brooklyn. No one's choosing the Nets. It's Brooklyn. Except Kevin Durant. Nobody said that about the Dodgers. They don't really have a choice. You don't have a choice. Kevin Durant, wrong choice.

I mean... The Nets have been in that town. The Nets? The Nets have been in that town, the Clippers, what the Clippers are to the Lakers. Even though there have been times that they have had the better team. They made back to back NBA finals.

That's correct. With Jason Kidd and Kerry Kiddles. No, I'm not sure how much there is quite like this, Dugats, honestly, where you've got the loudest and the biggest city and you've got their biggest affection with a sports team, and it's cross-cultural, and it's a lot of people from a melting pot city who care about this thing.

And I would say, they've had plenty of heartbreak over the years, but this was a top five loss for them. Oh, easily. Of all time. And they've had some on there, on that list. Before we go- I'm putting together a list, Dan. There are so many losses to sift through.

I will get to it at some point today, okay? Yes, good. Top five most heartbreaking losses. Taylor did ruin everything, and that was perfect as his Knicks fandom went by train for 28 hours to be at one of the great heartbreak losses in franchise history. I do think though, like the Knicks are still in it.

Like they haven't like. No, they're up three two. No, put it, put it. It doesn't feel like that today. No, put it on the poll, put it on the poll. It feels like we lost everything. Put it on the poll. Are the Knicks down three two?

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live, visited by a top five worst New York moment. I've never been given that gift. I've never felt being up three, two in a series like I'm down three, two. Thank you, Charlotte. Yeah, well, Dan said it, but you know. I don't think we're still in it, though. But you won't, but you will.

No, no, no, no. All right, well put. I love you. Appreciate your eloquence. I'd rather win the series in Philadelphia to be honest with you that would be great because I'm tired of them. They're fan based the whole team the organization I can't stand them. I can't stand any of them. Nick Nurse enough complains about every single call those guys limping around complaining I've got a headache I've got this my leg hurts maxi faking injuries, then going out fourth quarter,

having the greatest fourth quarter that the mecca has ever seen. How about that foul on Brunson by Embiid? I mean, that's why he's public enemy number one in New York, right? It's just, oh, Embiid's got a headache. You know what, I mean, my back hurt yesterday, I came to work.

I mean, give me a break. His face is paralyzed. Oh, I don't wanna hear about it. Jessica, you made a bit of a rookie mistake and I understand how it gets made because you haven't seen this particular Stu Guys. It's only half his face, I mean. This particular, he had the riff going

where he was like, sixers, I'm tired of giving you, get your leg out of here. He had the- It sounded like he was petering out. No, he had the music. No, I was just getting going. No, he had the music working, I understand. Yes, your history with him suggests

three years of heaters. Those are the heaters. Three years of heaters, but this Stugatz, my partner, enlivened by a sports team. We're having sex, baby. And Joe Mauer, yes, like this is the best version of him. What? What? What? No, you are.

Yeah. The, the, the. Feels good. Stugatz on a heater instead of ravaged by sickness because of his heaters, we want to stand back in awe and have him hammer the Philadelphia 76ers again and again for being fakers who limp around until the fourth quarter when it's time to make all the shots. Did you finish? I'm made deeply uncomfortable by everything that happened.

He's still going. You still smell like cigarettes. You always bring the cigarette smell into the bedroom. Mid-sex cigarette. You were shirtless. Yeah, I found Stu wandering. I'm gonna change the story. He was wandering throughout the parking lot,

muttering, the Knicks, the Knicks, the Knicks, without a shirt on. Well, I'm telling you, this is the thing, right? Because Stugatz is not that self-aware. There are more heaters this morning, and a general slovenly shirt situation, because of the stress of that loss last night. It's tough to sleep

You sleep with your fists. I call Taylor You called him yes to like just wallow I needed someone to talk to so you called him in New York at 11 p.m I was crazed last night midway through the third quarter. I'm telling Abby maxi problem maxi big problem He's getting hot big problem when he gets this hot and then he missed a shot and I'm like,, Maxi, problem, Maxi, big problem. He's getting hot, big problem. When he gets this hot, and then he missed a shot. And I'm like, oh, he missed a shot, we needed that miss. But then he made the next seven after that. And I was going, Maxi, problem, Maxi, problem.

My wife said, relax, you're gonna win the game. I said, Abby, you don't know this team, we're gonna lose the game. I think in all the time we've been married, they've never been this relevant, they've never been this good, they're going to lose this game She said you're jinxing that I said I'm not jinxing them then they lost the game and Abby goes, you know, you're next

She was impressed with me That is impressive. No, sir that right there that is Really showing off the only time I've ever felt like that. I've told you this story. It's a great story it's a great story my It's a great story. My grandfather at that point, technology eluded him some and there was a time where I asked him to answer a cell phone and I walked in on him answering

the television remote control. So he was much older in life, but as a Cuban exile, he had no capacity to understand how it is that I could make money having sports opinions. He's from Cuba. He doesn't speak English. And he's like, how does my grandson have sports opinions that they pay him for? How is that a thing that exists in this country? And he's got a game on at night and it's ESPN Classic, but he doesn't know it's ESPN Classic.

This is a famous game. And Mark Wollers is throwing against Jim Layritz and I walk past the television and I'm like, Grandpa, the way he's been pitched here, Layritz is gonna pull the ball, it's gonna be a home run. He doesn't normally hit home runs in this spot, but this is gonna be an enormous home run in the next pitch. Because I saw it 20 years ago.

And he just like, was dizzy. Like, oh, that's why they pay him. He's amazing, he knows what's going to happen off in the future. Do you understand that on WFA T Stu gots knew exactly what was gonna happen You gots on the call would have said max he's gonna run up here and break my heart He's gonna take a shot from half court. Yep. I told Abby I do that with my daughter had a red light sometimes

I'll be like it's gonna turn green, I'm gonna use my magic powers here. No, but not just that it's gonna turn green, when it's gonna turn green, because hey, I keep track of the little flashing stop thing, I see it's yellow over here, I'm like, all right, daddy's gonna get his magic hand ready, and now, and then it turns green? Man, is she impressed every time.

The first time, I'm sure you got it wrong, and it was just like the blinker. There's that slight delay sometimes. Yeah. Forget about the turn of signal. I'm sure you got it wrong. It's just like there's a delay Forget about the Turner signal Such a good memory I mean my grandfather was talking about that for years afterward he would tell people that I knew when that was gonna happen Really he was bragging yeah! I made him proud by lying to an old man. Old people and toddlers.

You can get them. Put it on the poll please. Juju, who's easier to get? Old people or toddlers? We disgraced the Rock next.