The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Path To The Best Sellers List
Episode Date: November 27, 2024Today's Cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Roy, Billy, Mike, Tony. Didn't we say this was finally going to be the year we take off the Wednesday before Thanksgiving? Why are we here? Since we are here, might ...as well kick off the show with some Andrew Luck to celebrate. After that, we dive further into Stugotz's Personal Record Book (stugotzbook.com) and all of the madness that went into making this book a reality. Why is the audio book not out yet? Does Stugotz have any shame about the process that led to the book being published? Plus, Stugotz saved Mike Ryan's wedding and Thomas somehow doesn't have a key fob. Finally, the University of Miami remains in a good spot after the latest College Football Playoff rankings, and Mike Ryan explains why he's less concerned about the defense than some people may be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Tony sprung into the room today, into the morning today, because he came in careening from last night,
because he had an idea last night
that he would connect with the old guys
on scrolling through the channels,
old school scrolling through the channels,
and he comes up and he's like,
Dan, I got a top five, top five movies
I'll stop on every time if I'm old school
scrolling through the channels. Now hold the phone here. Top five movies I'll stop on every time if I'm old-school scrolling
Hold the phone here is this modern-day scrolling on the guide or is this back in the 90s? I'm going channel one channel at a time. It's it's it's the new version of old modern scroll, right?
It's the modern
Reinvention of the scroll which is obviously we can't go I have a smart controller, right?
So I can't go channel by channel. Do you go down the guide one by one
or do you do page down?
No, one by one.
So I'm on the guide on Hulu, right?
I'm on the guide on Hulu, I'm going down
and I'm like, mm, squawk on the street, okay,
no biggie, all right, MSNBC, who cares, whatever.
And then I get to a movie and I'm like,
ha, it's halfway through, but I will stop on it
every single time, which made me think,
what movies would I stop on every single time they're on?
Tony's worked hard this year.
I feel like he shouldn't have to work today
and maybe he'd just go home, get along, Thanksgiving break.
This is the only day I'm on this week.
No, I mean, but you worked hard.
You've earned it.
Tony's Top Whatever's and Tony Tonight's and all that.
Sunday Nights.
Sunday Nights.
It's not fair that Tony has to be in today.
I feel like maybe.
How about Tony?
Yeah, thanks, Tony. Way to go, John. I feel like maybe. Just, yeah, thanks Tony.
We're so thankful for you.
We're so gracious and thankful for you this year.
Why don't you just kick it up and put your feet up.
You've earned this rest.
Get home early.
I like working though.
Yeah, we're from home.
If I go home, I'm not on the show
and then I can't give my top five,
I can't give my takes.
I know, but like, you deserve a break.
I have takes on Gladiator, I know Mike does.
Wow.
Yeah, but you've worked hard enough man
No, but you deserve a break. No, but see that's the thing recharge the battery
No, I already did next Wednesday next week. We need it. I'm ready to go. Yeah
I'll probably be on next Friday. I mean the bags under your eyes man. You deserve a break the kids not even here yet
I know that's why you got to start charging it up now so that you have the batteries recharge for that, baby
Just head home. We've been together a long time, 20 years,
and there's some resentment from the old school
on having to work this week.
I mean, we say it every year,
we're not gonna work the Wednesday before Thanksgiving,
and every year it's the same five of us
working the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
That's why I'm not working next week.
I remember last year, the Wednesday before,
we all kinda were like, not next year.
And yet here we are.
Here we are.
Yeah.
I'm not kidding you.
I'm not kidding you.
The number of times this has happened,
I'm gonna say it's a dozen,
where I'm complaining to someone in my life,
and I'm like, I own the company.
So you think, right, that the things that I would say
would then just happen,
right, and everyone bursts out in laughter in my face,
like no, what did you expect?
How are we still here?
How are we still here with just Tony's top five
scrolling through the channels?
Billy doesn't wanna be here,
we've been doing this shit for a long time.
No, Billy wants to be here,
he just doesn't want Tony here.
No, that's not true.
Just Tony deserves a break.
I got yelled at by my wife last night
because I paused again on the Italian job.
What?
Didn't make it, but very good.
Again, she yelled at me, Dan, enough.
Enough with Seth Green at the computer.
But I'm doing it old school, TiVo style!
No.
Direct TV style!
You would.
Is TiVo still a thing?
I think so.
I'm hanging on.
I'm hanging on to the edges.
AOL.com, TiVo.
No, I've gotten rid of, I've got a metal art email now.
Wow.
Yes, but, but.
No AOL?
You still have it.
I mean, I just sent you emails there.
I still have it, but it's a MetalArk email
that I am using now.
When people get emails from me,
it's from a MetalArk email.
This is the progress I have made,
but I'm still on the Tivo because I like it.
It's convenient, and then I'll switch over
when I'm streaming. It's a whole then I'll switch over when I'm streaming.
It's a whole nother place that I go.
But I like to go in to DirecTV
and occasionally find Casino,
I'll stop on that every time,
Goodfellas, I'll stop on that every time,
and the Italian job gets me every damn time.
You know what else will get me every time?
Smoking aces somehow.
Smoking aces. It's terrible.
And I'll stop on it for 15 minutes waiting for those guys
to come out of the elevator through the smoke
with buzz saws.
What if you're past that scene, though,
when you land on it?
I still look for it, because I haven't seen enough
of the movie in 30 years to remember where it is.
I'm just waiting for it.
I'm waiting for the one scene.
It's everybody.
It's Ben Affleck.
It's Ryan Reynolds. It's got to-Leg, it's Ryan Reynolds,
it's got, it's got a, man, Jeremy Piven was going to take Ari in Entourage to become a
movie star. That was, that was, here it is. I can carry a movie. No, you can't.
He did the goods and that was the end of that.
I'm sorry. You don't use DirecTV anymore, Stu Gantz? What is your-
So I got rid, I had DirecTV recently and I got rid of it because I wanted to get the Sunday ticket in the NFL package on YouTube
So now I'm a YouTube guy and I love it. I do but I go between all of the places, right?
I don't love so much how the YouTube algorithm grabs me and my addictions and just sends me into a spiral of the same
Seven places and next thing, you know, I'm watching Norm McDonald from 30 years ago
and next thing you know, I'm watching Norm MacDonald from 30 years ago.
Like I'm watching him on Letterman and stuff.
No, the algorithm's got me and I don't like the grip
it has on me, it's uncomfortable.
It's like YouTube TV.
I'm saying YouTube TV, yeah.
Which is its own carrier,
I think you're confusing it with YouTube.
Right.
I thought they were the same thing.
Two different apps, I learned that a month ago.
There's the YouTube Home, that's your traditional YouTube,
that's where you- That's where the algorithm gets you get you watch Norm MacDonald. I'm talking about YouTube TV
Maybe step so you just got rid of the a well although YouTube TV does do the same thing or if you watch a channel a lot
It'll be the first channel you see so there is some sort of algorithm going on there, too
Chris to start the show I want you to empty the Thanksgiving file
Okay
I want you to go into the computer system the library that it took us millions of dollars to
get from ESPN that we put to good use I want to just sprinkle all of our
Thanksgiving things the holidays all over the people as soon as we start the
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Give me John Gruden first.
It's very important that I start at the rear first.
This tail feather gives me speed and precision.
And it's these mid feathers you got to be careful with as you go around your Super Bowl ring, you know
But these middle feathers are the brain of the outfit and this front feather that points the direction that this
hand turkey goes
Give me Jim Harbaugh. I don't think there was ever a question there
Think it's just a lot of gobble gobble turkey,
you know, by just gobble gobble gobble turkey from Jive Turkey Gobblers.
I don't think that was Thanksgiving related really.
He said gobble gobble. Jive turkey.
That's all it takes. Bill Belichick.
I mean football, family and foods. Other than football, what's your favorite Thanksgiving side dish?
Yeah, I mean pretty much everything.
There's not much food that I don't like so.
Are you a cook?
I could restart with dessert.
Got to leave room for everything else so yeah.
It's great.
It's a great holiday.
It's a great holiday.
Football, family and food so yeah sign mean, football, family, and food. So yeah, sign me up.
The difference in energy.
Not a lot of enthusiasm on that one.
How about Andrew Luck?
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Play on Thanksgiving.
That's it.
That's all you got?
So he just searched the word things.
I just wanted to hear his voice.
I mean, come on.
With that guy, he can say anything
and I'm playing it.
We gave up millions for this.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Play on Thanksgiving.
What about Zion Williamson being asked
about his favorite dish?
Happy Thanksgiving.
You get to go home tonight
and then leave tomorrow evening.
Give us a little glimpse into what Zion Williamson's
Thanksgiving looks like.
Just spending some time with my mom, stepdad, my friends, little brother, older brother and
get on the plane to go into Memphis. What's your favorite dish? What you're looking forward to eating the most?
He's trying to set me up. No matter what answer I give, social media gonna clown me. So no comment.
I'm sorry, you know what?
That made me sad. It does. It was a benign question. I know.
He knew though, he knew where the spots were. He's like, you know what? Not gonna answer this one.
I know but to no comment something like as harmless as that the kids
When we're at we fat shamed him so much on the internet
He's not 25 years old and he's already hiding from our questions. What is Kentrick Lamar like on Thanksgiving?
Questions what is Kentrick Lamar like on Thanksgiving?
Give me less miles describing the perfect last bite little bit of the
Turkey and gravy and and some of the stuffing that would be there and maybe just a smidge in that
Cranberry stuff these guys are problematic now like Jeremy's not here. You don't have to say it. It's okay. I feel like I have to speak for him.
You don't have to. It's okay.
Stugatz has been distracted for the last two days.
Yesterday was a giant day for the company, for Stugatz.
He was floored. I saw him counting numbers all day.
Stugatz's personal record book climbed up the charts.
I see it here, Stugatz. Somebody sent me a note. I see it here. Stu got somebody sent me a note
I don't know. What's that portal you've been checking in on it's an author's portal, Daniel
Perhaps if you write a book one day, you'll get one, but I have one because I'm an author
That's right
And his personal record book currently sits at number seven on the bestseller list in Amazon sports and outdoors
Category still trailing the backyardyard Bird Chronicles, Hockey
Romance, and How to Survive a Frickin Bear Attack.
Yeah, we'll take care of them. We will. We're number one in many, many places, sports essays,
sports sociology. We're top 500 in all books, which is insane. I am super grateful and thankful
to the audience, to everyone who helped with the book, and to the audience who came through
and purchased the book during presale and yesterday. It was
really cool to see. So thank you to everyone. Sports sociology. Yeah I have
no idea how it made it there but I'll take it number one. I don't care what
listen I do not care what the category is. You put my book number one in that
category. I'm good with it. There will be no way, no avenue from which this can be undercut.
Stu Gotts is an accomplished author now officially, and he's climbing up the best seller list.
That's not up for dispute.
I've seen some of the numbers.
He's exploding our audience as we've known for a long time is like super, super loyal.
And so he's sold tens of thousands of books in an industry where it's hard to
do that these days because that's not how it generally works and he's just getting started.
I don't know if best seller lists include pre-order.
If they do, he will absolutely be a best seller if it includes six months of sales because
we didn't just unleash.
A lot of people bought before yesterday.
Yesterday is just when Stu got start seeing the numbers. Have you negotiated
the parts of this because the book industry is notorious for not giving
accurate numbers to the people who are selling when they negotiate percentages
on if they're booked does well. We have negotiated it. I told you the story that
Mike Schur, who was really great
during this process, I have no idea.
I don't know the inner workings of the book industry.
He does.
He introduced me to a guy named Richard Abadi,
who is his literary agent and friend.
And so I trust Richard in whatever he did.
However he structured that deal, I trust Richard.
So I feel good about it. I really do. I feel great
about the sale of the book. Greg and I are going to do a signing next week. I'm very excited about
this at a church. How about this? Yes, the bookstore was too small for Greg and Stugatz, so they're
doing it at a church instead nearby because the bookstore can't handle the amount of traffic
that's going in there because now Stugatz is about to be a best-selling author but i saw the group yesterday
stugots i saw them recoil in some places with shame because you knew so little
about your own book and i was disappointed that we didn't do a better
job yesterday in getting a bunch of guests and people to make a bigger noise
than the one that we did with a lot of strategic targeting stuff. But what I learned because I tried to get someone today from Random House to come on
and tell the story of what it was like to deal with Stugatz and I was told, Dan that's
a bridge too far.
I don't even know what that expression means exactly.
What is the origination?
I've never heard of going a bridge too far.
We know.
What does it mean though?
What does a bridge too far mean?
Like I know what it means, but where is it from?
Is it from war?
Is a bridge too far, too far away?
Random House says, well, I'm not gonna quote Random House here, but I wanted to get somebody on to explain, Stu Gatz, from is it from war is it is a bridge too far too far away random house says
well i'm not a quote random house here but i wanted to get somebody on to
explain stugots what billy astutely noticed yesterday is absolutely so i
don't think in the history of random house they've ever had somebody who
doesn't deliver the audio book when the book is being sold
like it's like random house is legitimately mad at stugots and so i
can't get somebody on the show to talk about.
They're actually not mad at me at all.
But anyway, go ahead.
I did some digging and I was told
this is the first time that's ever happened.
So what happened?
I paused the audio book because as I was doing it,
I said to myself, this doesn't meet any standards
that we have as a show to entertain
our audience. And so I just figured there was a better way to do it. And I asked them
politely, can we pause the production of it and release it later? Because I would like
to do something a little bit different. That's all.
So you have standards now when it comes to the book?
Well, yeah, I do. Listen, I was upset with, I was putting myself to sleep reading the book. And so I just figured-
But you should have known-
Terrible, Seljah.
No, because that's not the right way-
You didn't write the book?
That's not the right way to do an audiobook.
Your own book puts you to sleep?
Well, I was hoping that Dan would read it. And I, you know, you guys were here now
because I wanted everyone on the show involved in the reading of the audiobook. I thought that would be good for the listeners.
And I was forcing Woodman. Nice.
Yeah. More. Well, I was going to pay the people who are working on this show
to do that. So just trust me, bro.
You're now you're now off the list.
I was definitely going to get that check.
I will say this unintentionally.
This is going to work out great for you
because six months from now, whenever, when it comes out,
then people are gonna be like, I wanna buy that.
I should pay for this new, and now you're prom,
here's the thing, you're saying too much
because now you're promising you're not
just reading the book, you're promising
some other show-involved thing.
I'm not saying too much.
I got a plan, I'm okay.
I mean, I appreciate what you're saying, Billy.
Just don't over promise here is what I'm saying.
But Random House has dealt with massive personalities
in every facet of life and entertainment.
Yes.
And you're the first person that didn't deliver
an audio book when it was expected.
Yeah.
That's not a badge of honor.
First for everything, I mean.
Update on a bridge too far comes from a comment made by lieutenant general Frederick boy Browning during a World War two's
Operation market garden it also comes from a title of a 1974 book based on the operation mark market garden
which was looks to me like a a
Situation in the Netherlands where they were trying to occupy Nazi something
or other in World War II.
You really got caught up in the air there?
Look, Tony, Tony.
Yeah, I was trying to find it.
You say you have it.
You have it.
This guy doesn't stop working.
No, I'll tell you what just happened to Tony, okay?
He got caught up in the air, the show was in his lap,
and he saw the word Nazi in front of him,
and he's like, I should have read this before I got here.
Yeah, proofread.
I should have read it.
In the context of World War II, I'm good.
Yeah, but. You'll learn, Tony, that is a proper context for not see it. Yeah, Tony
When you grab the show like that don't have the word Nazi in front of you
As I was saying I tried I thought it would be a great interview
To talk to the person at Random House to get what the are here, because I don't actually know what is true.
I'm guessing what happened here.
Here are the facts.
I'm a number one bestseller.
They've never seen more books sold
in the sports category in their entire life.
That can't be true.
Here are the facts.
I wrote a book.
Why don't you guys stop digging around
and just be happy for me for a change.
Let's just celebrate the book.
We did this. I didn't
do it. Well, Stanzyk did it. But we did this. Our show did this. We created an audience
that was so large that it would put me number one in several categories on Amazon. Can we
just be happy for me? Can we be happy for Stanzyk? Can we be happy for Greg Cody? Can
we be happy for the millions of people who contributed to this wonderful book?
This is the way a pathological liar
gets you to deflect off of the topic.
He's squirming.
He doesn't like the bright light.
Not at all.
The swinging bright light of interrogation.
I think, honestly, there might be,
just maybe, an ounce of shame.
Shame?
No.
None whatsoever. No
Stan thing not no shame at all yesterday with the Stan thing cuz I was like my skin was crawling
Well, listen, I haven't gotten that far in the audiobook yet
Stan's is at the very end there in response to Phil Jackson and Steve Carey
By the way, I meant to tell Stan he would have won six titles with Michael Jordan
He knows that I've never seen a book tour
In which the author listed on the book is surprised by what's in the book. Well, I mean that was a I didn't write that
I think my favorite part was when he said it's chapter 30 when you got 31. It's like 15 chapters too long
But like you get manuscripts, right?
Like your names on it like as these chapters are being written, you're not doing any kind of quality control.
He didn't read the forward. I, I,
well I read the forward. I just couldn't, I couldn't get all the way through.
That's all.
So he didn't read the forward and the thing that I already
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Don LeBretard.
I had Rachel and Emma both home
and I was in a fight with Rachel.
And I said, if you roll your eyes one more time,
there's gonna be a problem, a big problem.
And she said, really, what are you gonna do?
Stugats. Oh, goddamn. I mean, that's where she... I didn't have an answer!
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
The thing that I wanted to get to, because I genuinely don't know what happened here,
and he doesn't want us too close to this but the
audiobook was supposed to come out with the book and I think what probably
happened is he put it off to the end started doing it the last two weeks
didn't feel good to him and he's like I'm not gonna get this done in time and
then he blew the deadline I'm guessing that's what's happened I've got no
information I wanted to talk to somebody at Random House because I thought it
would be funny to explore this is content. That's a bridge too far.
Well, it's just now there's something that doesn't feel good to him about this.
It's just a weird time for quality control to pop up when you're writing a book.
It was actually Dan and he said it yesterday.
There's probably a better way to do an audio book
and he got me thinking and so I thought about a better way
to perhaps do the audio book
and I floated the idea past him.
So you gots, we can't abide by this lie.
Dan yesterday convinced you to stop recording an audio book
that you stopped recording several days ago?
Weeks ago.
Like are you listening to me, Mike?
Weeks ago, Dan talked about it yesterday.
You just used Dan's point.
Mike, are you listening? This is not helping. What? Weeks ago, Dan talked about it yesterday. Mike, are you listening?
This is not helping.
What?
Weeks ago, Dan said during a break,
there's probably a better way to do the audio book.
And so he got me thinking.
There's probably a better way to do the audio book.
Was there a better way to do the book?
Yeah, no.
I mean, the book is selling like crazy.
I'm happy with the book.
The book's great.
I never wanted to write a book.
Stan's wanted to write a book. Stan Zick wanted to write a book.
He wrote a book.
He put my name on it.
We're all tired.
Obviously, Tony, you should go home.
I mean, Jesus.
Tony, get out of here.
Everyone's tired.
My God.
Get out of here.
Jesus.
This is what happens Thanksgiving with families.
It's unbelievable.
You have us working on this Wednesday before.
No one wants to be here.
And I'm being interrogated.
I'm in the middle of it.
Sell it. Sell it, your book. Oh, geez, get out of here. We're making your book a best seller. I sold my book, thank you. Before no one wants to be here
I sold my book
I mean Roy to me and Roy we sold the book I was told there was scrambling today to look for one of your books to promote today and the only one we got was
Like the prop with no words in it. Yeah, I don't have the books are at home right now
I have some ideas with those as well And the only one we got was like the prop with no words in it. Yeah, I don't have the books are at home right now.
I have some ideas with those as well.
What ideas you have with those.
But I do not appreciate being interrogated.
I wanted to day after I released a book, I should be proud of me.
We are proud of you.
We are proud of you.
How much harder do you want us to be of you?
And also, you're a scam artist.
I don't know. You can't like the whole vibe around this book is that you didn't do anything
And you you're getting defensive over people like so you didn't actually do the things
Are you reaching out to random house like stay out of my business?
Doing private investigating I'm trying to book our show
I support everyone in everything you You tell a bad joke,
I laugh. Stugots, Stugots, I'm sitting here trying to book. Ridiculous Takes, I support them. Stugots,
I'm trying to book a guest to promote your book because yesterday. You're trying to book a guest
that embarrasses me, not to promote a book. No, the same way Stanzig embarrassed you. That's what
you're trying. Tell Sullivan to stay out of my business.
The same way that Stanzik embarrassed you.
Like, it's the same thing.
Listen, I am on to Sullivan.
He's the only person from this company
who actually reached out and offered actual help, okay?
Sullivan, you're the gods.
So that I appreciate.
But really all Sullivan wanted was PR contacts.
And listen, stay out of my business, Sullivan.
You got it?
Sullivan was trying to plan a big party for you yesterday
and couldn't get you to do any of the things.
And we didn't have any guests yesterday
to talk about your big day.
Not Steve Healy.
I mean, Sully is, he's one of the greats.
I mean, but seriously, stay out of my business.
Want to throw me a party?
That's one thing.
Throw me a party, I appreciate it.
I'll be there at the party, maybe.
Why don't you just tell us what happened with the audiobook just what happened what really happened? I just told you what happened
I told you four days ago. There was a better way to do the audio. It's four days
It was fun
We were talking about like Cody doing a voice or Mina doing a voice for the show was like four days ago
It wasn't like it keep track of your lies. What really happened here. You're really upset. I'm a best-selling author, huh?
You know how long I've wanted to do that
Sell out a church with a book. I didn't actually write cuz my friends wrote it. How'd you land on a church?
Well, I mean we were supposed to do it at Books & Books,
and they said that the response was so overwhelming,
they needed to move locations to a church.
So I was going to ask Dan to MC it,
but I don't want to infringe on his time.
There's a better way to do a book signing at a church,
and it's with Dan.
But Greg and I are very excited about this,
and we're looking forward to it.
It's a chance for our listeners
to come out. We'll sign the books. We'll have some fun.
When's the last time you were in a church? When's the last
time I was in a bookstore? I mean, I think the church was
probably Mike Ryan's wedding. I saved that wedding by the way
and this is what I do for my friends on the show, the people
that I care about. Mike's get married, you know, the wedding dress gets caught in a nail, and who is there
outside smoking a heater?
Well, it's me right outside the church and I unhooked it.
It was a heroic act of grace.
And all I remember from Mike's wedding the day he announced his love to his wife is Stu
Gotts, the hero, not putting out the butt in the back of her dress
But because he was outside smoking a cigarette
He just pulled it off and all of us salute him. It was his day really wasn't it wasn't Cynthia
It's why it is why I really do believe that this whole thing
It is why I really do believe that this whole thing
has the chance to be the greatest joke ever told by the show.
I mean, are you kidding me?
We tried to save highlight.
He's gonna conquer publishing?
He doesn't know how to read.
Charles Barkley before this was famously quoted as saying,
I was misquoted in my own autobiography.
It was his autobiography.
He was claiming to have been misquoted.
Stugots didn't read this book.
There could be things in there.
Like this book has not been read by Stugots.
Oh, Stanzer could have said anything.
I don't think half of the book has been read by Stugots.
And to sell to him, more than half.
Tens of thousands of copies in publishing?
Are you kidding?
Are you shitting me?
Seriously, think about what he's done
to sell tens of thousands of books.
Like who the hell's doing that now?
I was told he blew past every goal
that they had set for this book.
So much so that I found yesterday
when I arrived here, a very sad Thomas
in the lobby, because somehow, somehow Thomas
doesn't have a fob, which I don't understand,
so he's just waiting around to run into someone
to let him upstairs.
Same.
And Thomas just has a bag of blank shirts,
and I was like, what is this?
Thomas is like, oh, we had this bit set up
that we were gonna do to promote the book today,
but StuGath said that we blew past all the the goals so we don't need to do it anymore
So poor Thomas now just has a bunch of blank shirts
He has nothing to do with while he waits in the lobby for someone to let him like sure I
Don't know we were gonna do like a a bookathon which I I believe we're still planning on doing it next week
You know just selling books like it's like a telethon meets the boiler room. It would have been something like that. Yeah, free cruises to the top sales guy.
But they don't go to them. But they never get the cruise.
I want to interview Thomas. I don't understand why he doesn't have a fob. Please explain to me why
it is that he's sad because Stugatz is selling well. He doesn't like that Stugatz,
I'm not understanding why everyone here
wouldn't be thrilled for Stugatz.
We had a bit planned out yesterday to do on the show
with Thomas and with Taylor and I kind of nuked it
because the sales of the book kind of nuked it.
We didn't really need to do the bit
and Thomas wanted to do the bit and he was upset by that.
Well there was someone else involved too
because I saw a suit here, like someone brought a suit into work to do the bit and he was upset by that. Well there was someone else involved too because I saw a suit here,
like someone brought a suit into work to do this bit
and then left with the suit still on the hanger
and a dry cleaning tag.
So someone dry cleaned a suit for this bit
and then the plug was pulled on it.
I wasn't sad that we nuked the bit.
I was sad where I was made a little bit,
I had feelings was,
I was happy for Stu. but the plan was really started
to get cemented at around 8.30, nine o'clock,
on what, Tuesday night, or Monday night.
He was hard to get ahold of.
Sully, we had a little difficulty corralling Stu Gotz
to promote his own book.
Again, Sully's just trying to get contacts from me.
Thomas and I spoke 8 839 o'clock
We did I was I was in fact Thomas is the one who's hard to get a hold of but
Well, I mean because he you know, the phone doesn't work well where he is and so he always calls me right back
He's great with that
Sometimes that's on the night. I try to find Thomas. Yeah
Thomas is the most available person here.
People are getting him all around the clock.
So much so that Thomas won't tell you this,
he was up until one in the morning on Monday
working on the bit, which is why he was extra sad
that it didn't come to fruition.
Thomas, now we have more planning, okay?
So spend the entire Thanksgiving weekend
working out the kinks, all right?
I wrote one of the best sales scripts
that anyone's ever written to cold call
and sell his book and I stand by.
Is that just your assessment of what you wrote?
Anyone in this room, if I gave them the sales script
they could make a call and they could sell
Stu Gotz's book to a stranger cold call.
Yeah, yeah.
Obviously let's do that.
Obviously.
That was the plan.
So we just blindly follow your script that you wrote?
Yes, if you stick to the script you get sales.
I learned it on all the sales floors I used to work on.
You stick to the script.
Boiler room.
And that's how you get sales.
When you start to deviate,
that's when calls don't go as well.
Stick to the script.
Yes. Stick to it. We were gonna have a big calls don't go as well. Stick to the script. Yeah.
Stick to it.
We were gonna have a big whiteboard.
We write our trades up on the board.
We cut a tie for the first trade, right?
That's what you do traditionally at big shops.
We bought a bell.
Yeah, we bought a bell.
We have a bell.
So listen, we have, Monday we're gonna do this.
And so again, you and I can spend the entire weekend.
No, no, we're gonna do it today.
We're gonna do it today.
We're gonna find a way.
I don't need to sell books today.
It's holiday time. Tony's going home soon. Yeah, we need to We're gonna do it today. We're gonna find a way. I don't need to sell books today. It's holiday time.
Tony's going home soon.
Yeah, we need to wait.
I gotta go home soon.
We're gonna find a way to do this.
Bad arm week.
Not a good day today.
Not a good day today.
Bad arm week?
You just threw it there?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, look.
The ABCs, Tom, right?
You got it?
Exactly.
Thomas, I need you to leave now with all of your feelings.
Thank you for joining us.
Look forward to Monday, Thomas.
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Don LeBretard.
I want to talk about a team that I actually want to see come playoff time.
I want to see the Chiefs.
Oh, Stugarts.
I want Patrick Mahomes strolling into my stadium with max confidence.
I want Travis Kelcey.
I want Taylor Swift. I want the team that
lost to Jordan Love. I want the team that lost to Aiden O'Connell. I want the team that
trailed 17 to nothing to Jake Browning. That is the team that I would like to face in the
playoffs. That's the team indeed that I would want to face in the playoffs because that
team is not very good.
This is the Don LeBattardt show with the Stugats
I want to execute
the sale of Stu Gatz's book,
because I do want this to continue to sell well.
And I was surprised yesterday as I left,
because I was confused.
Stu Gatz had asked me for patience on today's show,
that we were gonna do a lot of different things,
and then the show got here, and we didn't do anything.
We just talked about his book.
We were really.
Steve Healy.
And so I was confused as I was leaving,
and Stu Gs was like well
I didn't need to sell any books because we sold a bunch and I'm thinking to myself
But could have used the content like could could have used the could have used the content of but I have the sales I mean
Yeah, but mmm, so it was never about my book. All we got was Steve Healy. Hmm just content
Well, it's about selling the book. I've never
provided content before, so it really wasn't about selling the book. You needed additional
content. We sold the book yesterday. You did good, we did good. We had Stan reading the book.
I didn't know what Barty was reading. I didn't know where to tell him to read,
but Stan was reading his book. I know, and we all are celebrating. My book.
And we all are celebrating. My book.
Our book.
The group's book.
It's everyone's book.
It's the people's book.
I make the money, but it's the people's book.
And Thomas.
I have never actually.
He's not making money.
I can't remember the last time I saw shame
in that room on Stu gots his behalf
What percentage is stanz it getting of this 80 20? I will not share
Close to the bone on that one Chris Cody. I'm not sharing. I would gladly tell you
I don't think stands it would like me to tell you I don't mind also stay out of my business. I mean who are you Sullivan?
Jesus I don't mind also stay out of my business. I mean who are you Sullivan? Jesus
How do we corral Sullivan
There are a bunch of producers running around here one of them's got a fob another one does it and
And he comes in here with his feelings a whole bunch of people trying to produce you guys and what happens
They bring in a dry clean suit and go home sad
They don't have a fob and they leave to a parking garage because the ten bits they executed all weekend because
they care about the show. They brought to Sturgats and he didn't he farted on all of
them and sold thousands of books while doing it.
Yeah, yeah, it's accurate. I brought the bits to them. I mean, it's but it's okay. I mean,
we digress. Thomas is great. I mean, he's a keeper. Let me tell you that right now.
That guy is smart. That guy is
sharp. Taylor too. Fantastic.
And cheap. I mean, I gotta tell
you, both of them. Uh Thomas
cares a great, great deal.
Thomas reminds me of our youth.
Also, this 1 AM thing. I mean,
stick to a deadline. Uh what are we doing? I mean? Deadlines are important man. They really are I mean someone gives you a deadline
You got a you got to produce at the deadline. You know book wasn't really a surprise to anyone
Everyone who was coming yeah, so mm-hmm you gots his defense wasn't hiding it. Yeah
Any more questions
Tony where do you stand on all because I feel Because I feel like we lost you since Nancy's
and I thought, I thought.
Jesus, I saved the wedding.
Aqua?
I thought that you were here to support Stu Gotz
and I haven't heard from you since you got scared
of the word Nancy on your computer.
I'm with Stu Gotz, 100%.
Stu Gotz is like me in high school
where we used to do these group projects
And I would be kind of the team leader of the group project, but not do the work right so you I would be great
At getting everybody other right Mike you got the first paragraph Chris Cody. You're doing the bibliography Roy
You're doing the pictures on the back team leader. You're doing the board everybody break on to let's go
And then I would present the actual thing of the work that everybody else did but I was the one presenting I would bring Dan this is a
this is a pro move by the way Dan this gets the teacher every single time I
had broken off an antenna off a radio like a little hand radio and what I
would do is when we would when we would open up and we would open up the little
thing I'd go I'd open up the thing and then I go pointing at the different
pieces the teacher would be like like Pat McAfee on game day yeah exactly We would open up the little thing and go, I'd open up the thing and then I'd go, pointing at the different pieces.
The teacher would be like,
like Pat McAfee on game day.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So the long pointer, I would have that.
Can I get that character, please?
I'd like him to.
I could sell the book.
I could sell the book for Stu Gott.
So that's easy.
That's easy.
I could sell ice to an Eskimo there.
We don't need that now though,
but perhaps next week to Monday.
You're in Monday.
You're complaining about how many days a week. Monday I need you. You're part of the sales team. I'm giving away a
cruise. Power hour. To the top seller, to the top seller, I to the listeners, this is to us. Not to the listeners, to the top seller,
I'm giving away a cruise.
I'm going to be the top seller.
I mean, I am.
So I'll give myself a cruise.
And if I don't give myself a cruise, I'm fine.
I mean.
Stugats, you can't promise people a cruise
unless you're going to actually give them a cruise.
We have professional standards around here,
even though sometimes it doesn't sound like it.
Top seller gets a cruise.
Yeah, you can't really do that.
You can be good with that, but you can't.
I'm in the lead by 30,000 books presently, Dan.
I mean, that could change by the time we get to Monday.
I'm just telling the top seller.
I haven't taken the pointer out yet.
Thomas Tony Taylor.
Wow.
Wow.
A sales team full of tees.
Triple T.
This is amazing, right?
Glynn, Gary, Glynn, LaVos over here.
I mean, I just need, I need an N.
TNT, that would be good.
I mean.
What was between Glen and Ross there?
Gary.
So listen, if anyone sells over 30,000 books, okay,
on Monday, enjoy your cruise on me.
How about that?
You can't do all of that.
It's a day cruise.
A day cruise?
You have to make your own side deal on Cameo.
No drink package.
You can't, you can't just do that. You can't promise the best. I think we have to live your own side deal on cameo no drink package you can't you can't just do that you can't promise house
I I think we have to live to the professional standards of whatever it is
We used to back on AM radio when you couldn't promise the ninth call or something that you weren't gonna give them
Or you'd get like in trouble with the government Bimini and back, you know, I do love those you can promise anything man
It's the Internet
I don't think that are the rules perhaps the dry tortugas. I mean I
wanted to ask Mike Ryan something to work to because I see that
Dave Portnoy is taking some credit for
Being late to Mike Ryan's game, buying quarterbacks to get into
the National Championship.
It's not my game.
Yeah, you got Cam Ward, the University of Miami's
quarterback, you got yourself a 10-1 season.
I felt guilt earlier this week because I'm poo-pooing.
Not so fun when someone's in your business, huh Mike?
I'm poo-poowing a season uh... you know i one of the best u m seasons there have
been a return to the glory days record-wise interest wise argument wise
a national team i you know no longer talking about is the u back of the u is
back but clearly they're one of
the best teams they got one of the best quarterbacks they got one of the best
offenses and even if they don't play
anybody and you want to question them I felt like my tone was less positive than
it should be or celebratory than it should be because I can see them losing
against Syracuse because road games are hard and Syracuse throws a ton and
everything is up in the air now and I don't trust their defense at all.
So the defense thing I think I'm more aligned
with you on the defense than you would think,
but if you look at the numbers,
the numbers tell a different story.
The numbers suggest that Miami, along with Tennessee,
are the only teams inside the top,
inside the CFP that have a top 15 offense
and a top 15 defense.
Well, you look at that number, how does Miami have a top 15 offense and a top 15 defense. Well, you look at that number,
how does Miami have a top 15 defense?
I saw their defense not get crucial stops
for about a month and a half.
Yeah, I mean, they got fat in the earlier part
of the schedule when their defense was a little bit better
before the book was out on them
and before defenses attacked their weaknesses.
So let's parse through those numbers.
In terms of yards per play to power five teams. They're 39th
That's not bad. That's that's average and
All this offense needs is for that defense to be average for it to have a shot
So I actually think that if you look through the numbers you can be more encouraged where I get discouraged is I know where Miami's weaknesses lie
However, Miami was doing different things. There was different personnel in that game against Wake Forest. There were different formations
That's a major adjustment to change your formation in the middle of the season is a major adjustment
So I would be a little bit more
Encouraged if you really do a deep dive on these numbers.
The thing that I would say to dilute those numbers,
and I have not done the deep dive,
I hate to threaten the audience with a deep dive.
Into the weeds.
You did into my business, I mean.
But I did the deep dive for you, so you didn't have to.
Well, but the diluter that I would throw on that is simply and I don't you tell me
If you think this is fair or not because their strength of schedule is not terrible even though we don't think the teams they've they've played
Are very good Cal Cal has lost how many times this season already?
Yeah, a few they've been in a bunch of one-score games. I mean
No one's really talking about Notre Dame's strength of schedule, which is in the seven
No, but what I wanted to ask you about them being ranked
as the 39th best defense, my eyes are not lying to me.
That's yards per play against power four teams.
But my eyes aren't lying to me.
When I'm watching their games and I'm seeing a running back
run free every time on third and seven for 19 yards,
and I'm like, how is he not better covered than that?
That felt like the whole first half of the season and it's against teams that aren't
actually good because when you get to the last 12 you have to have one of the
I don't think you can have the worst defense of the 12 when the offenses
you're running into are gonna be more formidable than the ones you've already
played I don't think it's a it's a matter of being formidable I imagine like
the bigger issue and look Syracuse is a team
that really values time of possession.
Those are the teams that scare me.
Like Oregon, okay, Oregon, we're gonna have a track meet.
You have players, we're not gonna be able to stop anybody,
let alone Oregon, so give the ball right back to Kam Ward.
Wait, Mike, so this weekend scares you more at Syracuse
than some of these playoff matchups?
I would say any time you run into an offense that really prioritizes time of possession to try to limit the touches
that Cam Ward will get. We saw in the Georgia Tech game, Cam Ward will press
and not take what's available to him. I think he actually showed in Wake Forest
that he can adjust and it wasn't this spectacular game although he made some
wild throws that didn't end up being caught, but he was quicker to throw
than he had ever been all season long.
His yards per attempt was lower.
So I think those are signs of encouragement.
I think that Dan is really hyper inflating
the level of defense that you've seen
from teams that have made noise in the CFP
since it's been around.
You just need, if this offense puts up 35 a game,
which they've shown, if they get their normal amount of touches, they will. They've only been held. You just need, if this offense puts up 35 a game, which they've shown,
if they get their normal amount of touches, they will.
They've only been held under that, what, once all season?
Let me do it this way with you guys,
because the comp that I have,
if you're gonna make this a champion,
if you're gonna make the University of Miami a champion,
and I've already said,
I'm not used to a defense like that,
winning a championship.
But again, along with Tennessee,
they're the only teams in the CFP
that have a top 15 offense and a top 15 defense.
You say their defense isn't good,
and the counting numbers say
they're among the best, most balanced teams
in the CFP discussion.
Okay, and so when I throw that to the group,
what have your eyes told you?
Because I'm understanding what he's saying, and I just, I can't get out of my head the number of 50 yard plays they've given up.
Your right to seize on that, I think in terms of giving up explosive plays to the opposition, they're like a middling FCS team.
My eyes tell me that anytime there's a third and 21, the team is getting a first down. That's what my eyes tell me. Like in the Georgia Tech game there was like a third and 17 where
a freshman tight end or whatever got 27 yards uncovered untouched and just
stepped out of bounds. It was insane. Yeah they were really bad on defense for
about a month straight and week after week they got worse at being able to
address where teams were attacking them
I think that is a main concern. I share that concern with Dan. I don't think it's unreasonable for Dan to
React to the numbers that are given that I'm giving him which are surprising
Because of what we've seen over the last month and been like yeah
I don't trust it because I'm right there with Dan if a team
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