The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf
Episode Date: January 23, 2025Greg Cote is in rare old person form as he is ready to say "good riddance" to Jimmy Butler. Greg leads the crew in his dismissal of Butler's lack of effort as he tries to force his way to the Phoenix ...Suns. We PROMISE this is not an extended Jimmy Butler conversation. We promise. Then, how do you feel about punctuation in show titles? What's the best show with an exclamation point? What about commas? How about a question mark? Plus, the Game Show Hall of Fame and Betty White's dating history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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We've got a couple of tensions, Stugats, that we could ride today.
We've got a handful of people here,
I'm not gonna name names,
who appear to be angry at Dan Patrick
for big-timing our show.
We can start there.
Or, on a rare Greg Cody Thursday,
Greg Cody has hit someone in sports with a good riddance.
Yes he has.
I was delighted to see it.
Once we've arrived at good riddance,
I saw you and Cody working feverishly on a top five list
of old insults that Greg Cody would use in a top five.
Which would you prefer?
Would you want the general stomping anger of producers
who feel the Dan Patrick show is big-timing us,
or would you like Greg Cody's good riddance?
I want angry producers.
We'll get to Greg Cody, but I would like to hear
the angry producers being mad at Dan Patrick.
Okay, so I have to be careful here, okay,
because our relationship with Dan Patrick includes a partnership that
has tickets still on sale at Tipitina's dot com because Wednesday of the Super Bowl at
the great Tipitina's in uptown, it really is a great bar. We are doing a Super Bowl partnership partnership thing, but I too find myself
on mornings when Dan Patrick summons,
feeling like I'm being summoned.
In the morning, hey Dan, can you get over here
as if we don't have a show at exactly the same time
that he does and that I wouldn't be busy
keeping the same hours that he does
over the last many years.
And I just got a text that kind of grinded my gears a little bit too. I asked can we make sure
that this is a simulcast because we are you know doing our show. I want to if we're going to do
this let's both use it and the response was yeah absolutely let's just make sure it's just one-on-one
though just the two dance. Wow. Which is basically no Sougats, no Greg Cody,
certainly no shipping container.
Please keep them out of this.
And yeah, I'm a little bothered by this, no doubt.
Hmm.
What are we going to do about all that?
You know me, I'm all for the more the merrier,
but we do different shows and have different temperaments.
And I don't think he liked it in the last segment.
I wouldn't blame him if he didn't like it.
Last time we were on with him,
Greg Cote very obviously came to the mic to me
looking to talk, and I'm like, what, Greg,
did you want to talk about 50 Shades of Grey?
And there was music playing in the background
that was sensual, and I understand why Dan Patrick,
a creature of habit, might not like the unpredictability
of me not being able to read whether or not
Greg Cody wants to talk.
Is it your bit to pretend like you're not the shit stirrer?
Like, cause you're gaslighting me right now.
Because your whole thing is like,
let's put people on the air and fight.
Like I said that in confidence,
like I'm a little annoyed with this DP thing
because I've been trying to get them on.
I didn't name you.
The first words out of your mouth is like,
we gotta fight on our hands.
I didn't name you.
You love people fighting on the air, it's crazy.
I did not name you.
I did not bring up your anger for any other reason
other than you were angrier than I was about it.
Yeah, I told you that in confidence, Dan.
But I didn't say it was you who said it.
Yeah, but I didn't want it on the air.
I said it.
Mike, nothing is in confidence, you know this.
You've been working with Dan for a long time.
I'm on to it. It took me 20 years, but Dan loves having people fight on the air.
He's like David Caruso in CSI. He just wants an explosion behind him, but he doesn't look cool.
I also, I thought that Greg's idea to do the 50 Shades of Grey thing that Greg came up with was actually a really good idea by Greg that was a hundred percent his idea. There you go
Yeah, thank you. Mm-hmm. You know what Dan Patrick? He's full of himself. Let's be honest. Yeah
Oh, wow
I I think you should threaten to back out of the New Orleans event with him and instead of Dan and Dan just make it Dan
He can do it solo, right? Because he's just respect fine another day
I think you're greatly overselling what kind of leverage that actually is I think Dan Patrick would be
totally fine with this this is the down labor tour show with this two guys
podcast Greg are you ready with your top five list of old man insults or is that not ready?
Because good riddance is something that is not said by anyone under 70 years old, correct?
That's not true, Jessica, you'll say good riddance, but you're a fossilized old person inside.
Like you're in disguise. You're in disguise.
You do watch a lot of Colombo here you're hiding you're wearing you're wearing a costume that
pretends that you're not somebody with old person sensibilities but you came in
here today talking about a new CBS show oh my god it sounds amazing Dan have you
seen what this new show is called no I don't watch CBS except on Sunday morning
that magazine show that shows the sound of streams
for 90 seconds, great.
Still good.
Just talking about that sound makes me feel like
I have to take a piss.
No, this new show, it's called FBI colon CIA.
Oh wow.
I'm in.
Two different departments.
What does that mean?
What do you mean?
FBI CIA. What else do you need to say? This is the mean? FBI, CIA. Yep.
What else do you need to say?
This is the laziest show I've ever heard. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You know, NCIS, LA. Why isn't it law and order?
FBI, CIA.
That's a great idea.
Well, it's a different universe altogether.
That's a Dick Wolf universe.
Just packaged differently.
Good riddance, Greg?
Yeah, good riddance.
It's one of those classic phrases.
It's a little bit of cliche, but not really.
I think it's a classic. It stands the test of time, good riddance. You can say it about a lot of cliche, but not really. I think it's a classic, it stands the test of time,
good riddance, you can say it about a lot of people,
about a lot of situations across the decades.
I think it's, and I think it fits this situation.
You know, wild guess who I was talking about.
I mean, Jimmy Butler.
Come on.
This is ridiculous, okay?
What's going on is absolutely ridiculous.
I don't know what the rule is.
I don't know what the Players Association allows,
but to me, they should do more than suspend him.
They should fine him.
You know, he's really thrown a wrench in the whole season.
Those are without pay.
Those suspensions are without pay.
And I think he makes like 500 grand a game.
So those aren't small penalties.
That's fair.
Okay, good.
That's good.
Because he deserves it.
I feel better now.
He's like, I have no problem.
We heard a phone.
It was mine.
It was mine.
I'm admitting to it.
Do I owe double today because Greg is in?
It was my phone.
It's only great. It really is a surprise though for it to be a confession.
Rare is the immediate StuGott's confession to a crime.
Usually it's an assortment of moves.
Don't go get cash though, StuGott.
You got to do it on Venmo.
You got the Venmo fine bucket now.
Don't worry, I've got a QR code for you
to scan during the break.
All right, thank you.
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Goosebumps.
Goosebumps.
Amazing.
What's the name of that task force?
Is it FBI, CIA?
Yes.
I feel like that's ridiculous.
I want to say it's wordy, but it's just letters.
I don't watch any TV show that's got a
Semicolon or a colon no punctuation should ever be in the title of a TV show. Hmm. Okay, that's for starters
Right, let's think about this. What is the greatest TV show with punctuation in it?
Mesh at let me line is it anyway
Mesh is perfect
Yes is perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how much better. Roy Roy Roy's been waiting all his
life for that question. When did I finally he's asking 78 television show mash. He was
ready to bounce with a swiftness and speed that was really uncommon for the proceedings. Jeopardy. Oh yeah. Wow. Jeopardy! Unnecessary.
It really is. What do you mean it's unnecessary? Why are you going to put an exclamation point
after Jeopardy? It should be a question mark. Jeopardy? Right? No, there's got to be an urgency
around it. You have to be in Jeopardy. But all there's gonna be an urgency around
Jeopardy no, but all the answers are in the form of a question
Played to the theme of the game show rather than Jeopardy, right? Should it just be what is Jeopardy? Yes Yeah, what is Jeopardy?
No, there needs to be an urgency to the Jeopardy if you're saying the exclamation point is not needed here
Then you're saying in general the exclamation point is not needed. Yeah, but Trebek
God rest his soul was not a exclamation point type personality right he was he was intellectual but it was understated Mike's
point though the announcer welcome to Jeopardy what about who's the boss are
you smarter than a fifth grader well Well I really was looking more for colons and sort of the fringe punctuations.
You guys went straight to question marks and exclamation points.
Law and Order SVU I think would be the most famous of the colons.
That show's been on for an eternity.
Yeah and I hate that every time I see it and there's so many iterations of that.
The colons are all over the universe now.
There's never been a TV
show with an ampersand no no no no I thought that was the word no no no it's
gonna have to say there's never been a show with it early to answer she gots
his question who is Bruce Springsteen hmm why excellent X-files why Greg would
you be so aggressive about saying
there's never been a show with an ampersand
when you don't know that?
Like, why, why?
Why would you be?
Explain the odds.
Right.
I mean, come on.
You have to play them with confidence, Dan.
You do, yes.
It's from the StuGOT's textbook of how to do this.
Greg, are you anti-movie with punctuation, too?
Because there's a lot of
great movies with punctuation. Mr. Impossible right? Home Alone 2 Lost in
New York. Yeah I mean it's too easy I guess right let's just use the language
let's just use words no punctuation it's just a personal rule of mine I'm not
saying I'm right. You are saying you're right put it on the poll at LeBataille
show the same way you were saying you were right. You are saying you're right put it on the pole at LeBatard show the same way
You were saying you were right that there's never been a show with an ampersand, right?
Well, we were talking about a show with an ampersand at LeBatard show put it on the pole
Has there ever been a good show with a colon in the title, but you are saying good riddance to Jimmy Butler
You're calling him names
I'm calling him names.
I'm calling him a selfish player right now who quit on his team.
I don't think there's any way to parse that.
Is there?
I mean, you tend to differ with me on,
yesterday you disagreed when I said
that he's the antithesis of the best traits of heat culture.
How can you deny that with what he's done?
And in the latest club statement, they're not just saying that it's conduct detrimental
to the team, they're saying it's insubordinate action.
Well, this part is interesting to me.
This is the lone remaining part of this that's interesting to me. This is the lone remaining part of this
that's interesting to me until it becomes
something that continues to escalate.
Last week, Mike Ryan said something about Pat Riley
in which he called him a little bit prideful.
I will tell you that in my experience
with Pat Riley
throughout the entirety of his career in Miami,
that after what happened to him on LeBron James,
the specifics of the overt embarrassment,
overt public embarrassment,
something like that had never happened
to a man whose public image has only had the hit
of New York on it, which was very painful,
the way that he left New York.
When he's fighting with management,
it becomes you're a quitter, you're a scoundrel,
and the reason he left New York is because he wanted
this kind of power.
He did not feel like he had this kind of power in New York. When he came to Miami, he got this kind of power. He did not feel like he had this kind of power in New York.
When he came to Miami, he got this kind of power.
So I ask you, because I will say
that something happened to Pat Riley
in how it is that that hurt,
that he had never experienced before in his life because of how the pride
gets stung on, man, everyone thinks of me a certain way and I just got turned upside
down by a player and his friends who are now starting a five billion dollar league and
realize no, we'll grab the lessons there and we'll take them with us and we'll do some
stuff with that and got played publicly in a way that everyone saw. I will say that having seen him go
through that and having seen him really legitimately hurt by that, that I
wouldn't be surprised in this circumstance if he finds the urge to be
petty about, I'll send you to Utah. Like, you're not gonna win this with me
if all the offers are equal.
You're not gonna be the one who publicly embarrasses me.
Here's another suspension.
Here's another suspension.
I don't think that's a wise game to play with Jimmy Butler.
I don't think the way that they're doing this
is the way to do it if you want anything
that maximizes return on Jimmy Butler but I don't know for sure that the pettiness
of being embarrassed this way wouldn't grab somebody in a really human way and
I'm saying that not having talked to him about it at all just having covered the
man for a while and realizing that this he does not like. Like if you're going to
put him in front of people for a power struggle, the reason the thing that LeBron hurt so much
wasn't just that he took the titles with him and wasn't just the embarrassment, is that
there was no move after. Like there was no, I can punish him now, that's it, he's got
his freedom and there's nothing that I can do about this embarrassment.
I would not want to work for that man after I've embarrassed him.
I just don't think he has that option.
Because like when Portland did this, refused to send Damian Lillard where he wanted to
go, Lillard was a bit more desirable by a pretty wide margin than Jimmy Butler is presently.
I mean, I don't know the teams that are interested
outside of the one that's been reported in Phoenix,
but this is not the same kind of situation.
This is a very well-known malcontent
that if you invite into your franchise,
Miami's an outlier, it usually goes to hell way before that.
I'm just telling you that where all of these tensions reside, this is an unusual one.
I'm saying throughout sports, it's an unusual one to have in this setting.
Imagine Bill Belichick keeping a player he does not want to keep, who continues to desecrate
the Patriot way in a way that makes the local columnist call him quitter and selfish and
Celebrate that they're just gonna keep finding reasons to punish him and take away money and Jimmy's not gonna want to work under those circumstances
I believe that did happen with Tom Brady. Right. He wanted him out like two years before he was actually out
Because he wasn't following in line with the Patriot way
Yeah, he wanted more rights
Isn't this a bad strategy for Pat in general because aren't other players going to look at this and the
treatment of Jimmy Butler at the very end here and be like I don't want to play for an old bitter guy who's still mad about
Something LeBron James did to him at the very end. Yeah, I mean we've seen that take that's like a Paul Pierce take
It's an anti-Miami thing. I think
Given the players here, you can't hold Miami's history.
I was just going to focus on Jimmy's history, but yeah, it's fair. It went sideways with Dwayne
Wade. We had the happy ending, but he did leave and nobody felt good about the way that that ended.
I think it is. I think that would be fair. Billy felt good about it. It happened twice. LeBron,
Wade, Butler still came here. I don't see a world where someone's turning down $50 million to play in Miami if that were to come.
But there are two parts of this that are different
and interesting.
We mentioned the Damian Lillard part.
That was done during an off season.
Teams have a lot more flexibility.
The fact that we're in the middle of a season right now
with a new CBA that's made it really difficult
to move big contracts means that you need
four or five teams to participate.
It means you need Bradley Beal to wave his trade clause
to potentially go to a place that he doesn't want
if you're going to send Jimmy to Phoenix individually.
But while he was wearing those Phoenix Suns colored shoes
against in the Heat's most recent game against Portland,
Bobby Marks put out some really interesting statistics per second spectrum about
Jimmy's hustle on the floor over the last several games
So he's attempted fewer than 10 field goal attempts in four of his last five games in that five game stretch
No more than 57 points 42 field goal attempts and 14 free throw attempts the last time that occurred in his career
2013 he moved at a fast speed according to NBA second spectrum attempts and 14 free throw attempts. The last time that occurred in his career, 2013.
He moved at a fast speed, according to NBA's second spectrum,
just 5% of the time, which is the second lowest percentage
in a game in which he's played at least 20 minutes
this season.
Took a shot on 14% of his touches,
the third lowest percentage in a game this season,
passed the ball on 76% of his touches,
tied for the second highest percentage in a game this season, passed the ball on 76% of his touches, tied for the second highest percentage in a game
this season.
So he has just been giving zero effort on the floor
and it's clear when he's out there.
Quantifiable loafing.
We have to, I have to issue a formal apology.
It appears that FBI is in the Dick Wolf universe.
Oh.
Yeah, and also, this is a blind spot.
Prolific Dick Wolf universe.
The Dickverse, if you will.
Also, just a gaping hole in my knowledge
when it comes to all CBS shows,
it appears, Jess was informing me,
FBI is pretty huge.
It's like one of the most watched shows
on television right now.
It's averaging over eight million viewers.
So yeah, the FBI would
get top billing Dan over CIA whoever is disputing that you're wrong Dick Wolf
also the orchestrator of the Chicago what would you call that universe the
Chicago verse Chicago yeah so you're not a fire so what you're saying is because
it's Dick Wolf you're saying that it should just be law and order Chicago FBI
CIA that we should just mash it all together when you you read the
description on of FBI CIA but I still don't totally understand what it's about
it's not FBI versus CIA correct because I think I might actually taking each other on a series of competition
I think I'd be more interested in that
Good idea by you FBI versus CIA now. That's a idea for the prolific dickwolf universe
What is this idea though? I still don't understand what their forces?
In and around if you have to ask then it's not for you now there's an FBI Sydney
how is how is that I thought the FBI was just like distinctly American
jurisdictional situation they just wanted to film near the Opera house
phrase mate well can you seem to be really good at searching this.
The United States, like, we don't...
Yeah, we don't do stuff in other countries.
We stick to our own country.
That's what we're known for.
Really?
Well, when we interfere with other countries, we typically don't send the FBI, do we?
Sorry, I was being sarcastic and I think that maybe someone to my left thought that I was
not.
America first.
Oh.
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Hey, Jeremy.
Yes, Mike?
Have you ever had a fireside conversation
during a football Sunday during the winter?
Sure.
We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here,
but I've had the premise of it.
I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like, uh...
We're bundled up, but certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that.
But we do have our Football Sundays, and one thing that always makes Football Sundays good,
and I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this, Miller time.
Oh, yeah! Miller light makes the winter better, it makes Football Sundays better,
it makes even hanging out around you better.
Thanks, Mike.
That was kind.
I appreciate that.
You're my friend.
When I have a Miller Lite in my hand, pretty much everybody is my friend because we are
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Because we like beer that actually tastes like beer.
Oh, and now, the new year, it's the perfect time to have a Miller time.
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Don LeBataard! I'm not going to apologize. I wouldn't expect you to apologize.
Then? You're a giant infant. Okay. You have no control over your emotions.
You have no control over your emotions when you're calling someone you know an idiot.
I don't deserve it. Okay. I don't deserve it. Okay
I don't deserve it all right, and you're a fool for saying it okay?
Still gods you're a fool. Yeah, I was kind of falling
Right now you're locking in on yeah, let's drop the gloves pal
Thanking me for what every day for what I've done around this character and the
second shit gets real for you you want to come at me and call me a fool
no seriously Jeremy seriously I've added ten years to your career this is the
done libertar show with this two gods
I wanted to ask you guys something that you do not see a lot of and I would say that if
you're not a fan of the team or the person, generally this is not going to be something
that sports fans receive well, even though all it is is a blunt truth honesty that most
people aren't speaking out loud.
Dan Hurley, the Yukon coach, during a mic'd up moment, yelled at a referee in a moment of,
really, I got taken aback by the arrogance, even though I understand that this arrogance often
exists in people, and I understand that anger is data, that it's information, that it just sort of reveals things to
people about themselves and others.
Dan Hurley yelling at a referee when I talk about,
I need you to imagine what Pat Riley Petty feels like when you
have had the career of a thousand Dan Hurleys.
And a referee turns his back to you and that respect
is met with saying to him don't turn your back on me I'm the best coach in the
effing sport couldn't believe that came out of his mouth he has won back-to-back
titles I don't disagree with him can't believe it came out of his mouth that's
a bar I like it I have to issue another correction and an apology.
It's not FBI, Sidney.
It's international.
No, it's NCIS.
Well, there is an FBI international.
Yes, there is.
How does that exist?
NCIS, Sidney, which follows a fictional team
of special agents from the Naval Criminal Investigative
Service, NCIS, investigating crimes.
The series set in Sydney, Australia
follows a joint task force that involves NCIS agents
and Australian federal Police officers working together
on investigations involving American military personnel.
Nerve.
So it's actually really NCIS AFP, Australian Federal Police.
And this is allowed because we have a naval station there.
Actually the closest one is in Pith.
I think we need to rename a show in the Dick universe,
NCIS FBI Law and Order AFP Chicago.
Can't have enough acronyms.
Just put them all together and see if you get it.
Just an entire demographic of my parents
and Stan Van Gundy watching.
These are literally the most popular shows
in this country right now.
Someone skeeted at me,
how about a new show called NYPD Blue Chicago?
I like that idea.
Just keep throwing firefighters and workers
and CIA and FBI, throw a couple of spies in there.
Miami Vice, Brooklyn.
Put Angela Lansbury in there somewhere.
What?
What?
Just CBS.
Now there's a show with punctuation
that is an all time banger.
Murder, she wrote.
I was looking for the commas.
I was hoping for commas.
You guys went all, I'm still stunned
by the exclamation point on jeopardy
being something that you guys object to.
When I do believe that when a contestant finds him or herself in Jeopardy, it needs to be urgent.
It can't be question, is there Jeopardy?
It can't be period, there's Jeopardy.
It's gotta be holy shit, someone's in Jeopardy.
Like it needs the exclamation point.
You're a writer.
I figured you'd know that. No, because Jeopardy! begs a question mark.
Because oftentimes you aren't sure whether you're in Jeopardy!
If I'm on a mountaintop.
I think you know.
If I'm standing near a cliff, am I in Jeopardy?
Yes.
Yes, you are.
What you're not in Jeopardy! of is when you're on that game show,
when the worst thing that could happen is, doot, doot, doot.
There's a lot of hyphenated shows too, Greg.
We've got Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Hawaii Five-O.
I mean, what are you doing with hyphens?
I don't like hyphens.
I don't like acronyms in a title of a show.
I don't like question marks.
I don't like numbers.
Did you like mash?
Words.
Just have words.
You know, Password was the first game show I ever loved.
I think it was Alan Ludden, wonderful game show host.
It's a word, password, no explanation points.
They didn't call it PW as an abbreviation.
You know, there wasn't a colon.
Password, you know, guess the word.
Just simplify, simplify.
We're getting too complicated, too formulaic.
Get back to basics.
With all these numbers and acronyms, colons.
Mm-hmm.
This is stupid.
You sound so much like Joe Biden.
I dig what you're saying, man.
Password.
Sitting around the kitchen table in, man. Password.
Sitting around the kitchen table and scranton.
Watching Password.
Oh, no.
My dad said, why can't shows be like Password again?
It really is a bad impression.
It's scranton.
That's not good.
Greg, that's not good.
Scranton.
Sitting around the kitchen table and scranton.
The impression doesn't work without the scranton.
Why would you forget the only part of the impression
that makes it an impression worth listening to?
My dad, you know, sitting around the kitchen table
in Scranton.
There you go.
Do you know what MASH stands for?
Medical Ass Wipe Shithole Hospital.
What?
Nailed it.
It's the first thing I can come up with.
I don't say.
What does it stand for?
I'm not disrespecting whatever it really stands for.
I'm guessing the A is army, the H is hospital,
the M probably mobile, cause they were in Vietnam.
That's a good point by you.
Put it on the poll at Labataar Show. Do you know what MASH stands for? I guess the S can be shithole.
I don't know what that one is. The reason that I bring it up is because when you mention
that you don't want any punctuation, I thought for some reason of the old television show
Motorcycle Cops because we were talking about all this NCSIC it I CIA chips FBI that's right Dr. Quinn medicine woman oh wow that's not as good
as murder she wrote no but I'm not I don't it's subjective let me ask this
question it may be a stupid one I got to be honest while I know that it should
have a comma between the murder and the she i don't think of it as having a comma
between uh... the murder and the she i thought it was just murder she wrote
three words with no comment how would that make sense though i was like like
grammatically it's murder
she wrote understood i was a writer definitely a comma you're right that it
doesn't make sense grammatically but it would have a period at the end
of wrote if we were trying to make it grammatically correct.
Like that's not what we were going for.
Jesus.
Like, I know, I just thought it was murder she wrote.
I did not think of a comma being in there.
I'm sorry.
My apologies.
I did not expect the punctuation conversation to break out around good riddance.
But you're saying if they're going comma there, they need to finish it off with a period. If the effort is
to be grammatically correct, yes. Understood. Thank you. Yes.
It should be she wrote about murder. No that's no fun. No that's wordy and you seem you
seem to be objecting publicly to the idea of everybody's in such a big hurry that
they've got to make it an acronym instead of just saying all of the words to make it
convenient for you.
Yeah, I mean sports teams could adopt that and all of a sudden they're no longer the
New York Yankees or the N.Y.Y.
Put an exclamation point on that.
Yankees, jeopardy, Yankees!
Exclamation point. Does Yes Network have an exclamation point? I. Yankees, jeopardy, Yankees exclamation point.
You gotta draw the line somewhere.
Does Yes Network have an exclamation point?
I feel like it might.
Also, when Murder, She Wrote and Magnum PI
did their crossover, double commas in that situation.
I actually just came up with what I think
is a decent idea for a professional sports team,
which is put an exclamation point on your name.
Make it Yankees exclamation point
and create an entirely new marketing stream. Be the first, right? There is no team that
has an exclamation point on its name that punctuates its name with an exclamation point.
But you're thinking you don't use it very often. I know that in writing it's frowned
upon that the exclamation point is a bit of punctuation that other punctuation looks at and says you're too loud yeah you're
too much you're not you have no subtle it's fake excitement it's just it's not
fake excitement it is in time it's just it's just too it's too overt it's a
punctuation is meant to not get in the way exclamation point is a little bit
look at me also when my wife texts me the
exclamation points in her texts are way overboard like there will be five
exclamation point did you see this and it's a question but she'll put five
exclamation points at the end of it it's just it's an epidemic really it's an
epidemic that we're talking about.
Greg, she's excited.
Whatever she's sending you, she's excited about it.
I'm with my dad though.
No exclamation points.
You also, if you have multiple sentences,
they can't both have exclamation points.
Like something, you ever exclamation point
the first sentence and then you write a second sentence,
you're like, oh, this one deserves it more.
So you go back and you take out the first one
and only have one, because you don't wanna,
it's like you're shouting at someone
if both sentences have an exclamation point. I want
to ask Greg and Stugat something as people who are vigilantly and militantly
against learning and new information because while Jeremy was talking giving
what could be seen as good empirical information on Jimmy Butler for how you would quantify quitting. Stu got
muttered in my earpiece numbers, so many numbers, and stopped listening to Jeremy
entirely even though Jeremy was giving facts that would quantify quitting which
I thought is something that people love
to yell about in this particular endeavor that we do.
Love calling someone else a quitter.
I think fans love, media people love to do that.
Yeah, and I rarely do it.
So when I call him a quitter, I think I can back it up.
And what Jeremy said, is it TMI of course it is because
It's it's like telling me that he's running
19.6 miles an hour instead of 21 miles an hour, you know, it's just it my head explodes
But when the too much information is backing what I believe
It's necessary you like Then you like it, yes.
Thank you.
I've been talking with Greg and Stugatz about this
for probably a decade, and I think I just end up
being wrong even though when it comes to content,
people really want information right up until
it's not information that they
want and to me it's a bit it's a bit confusing because I would want anything
that proves to me something that I suspect but you guys don't want that
information I saw Stu got to actively stop listening on the second or third
number that Jeremy gave because
the math, and this is an American affliction, the math is something he doesn't want to play
with.
He doesn't want math anywhere near his sports.
It's a combination of the numbers and the messenger.
I don't care, by the way, how fast he's running, if he's running fast, how often he's running.
I don't care.
That's his job.
His job is to run. Here
are stats that I care about, Dan. He didn't smile during the pregame. He wore Phoenix
Sun's colors a couple of nights ago. That was annoying. And he sat a couple of seats
away from any of his teammates. Those are the stats I care about. Quitter. That's it.
Fast. Run fast. Here is information people really want, Dan. Alan Ludden was married
to Betty White before he died. Oh, that you know that yeah she got her own Betty
come on she was married a few times yes she was that's not an insult baby come on
Betty in it
we should all be so lucky to live Betty White's life. Yes, I am right. Put it on the poll, Juju at Levitard Show.
Should we all be so lucky, but she's not old at all, Jessica.
Should we all be so lucky to live Betty White's life?
And also, have you ever heard Betty White accused
of getting around?
Because that's the first time I've heard that accusation.
We could probably leave the second one off.
I'm asking if you've ever heard it, because I've heard that accusation. We can probably leave the second one off.
I'm asking if you've ever heard it because I've never, Betty White.
You have heard it, you just did.
It's the first time.
Betty White is an American icon.
Betty White is one of the rare people who gets to be universally beloved.
Her and Dolly Parton.
I don't know if there's a third.
Yeah, but she wasn't always a level ninety years old
you know i mean she will when i say betty white got around i mean when she
was a young woman
it's quantifiable
i don't say it is a pejorative
okay i don't say it is a but i don't look at his but i don't look down on
women who choose to be married several times
it's it's fine saying you know saying saying a woman got around tends
to be viewed as pejorative it's not absolutely well why say it well because
Betty White how many times was she married three times three times that we
know once to a man that we know of right dick Parker dick barker. Oh dick barker. Yeah, what a name
There's actually a website called who's dated who calm on here It says she's had four relationships the three marriages you guys reference and she also dated Phil Cochran from 58 to 62
Exclamation mark in it called Just Men.
Greg, have you heard of this show?
Betty White was the host, or she started it apparently in the 80s.
And it pitted two female contestants who were asked to predict answers to a series of yes-no
questions posed previously to a panel of seven male celebrities.
Oh, I had never heard of that.
What's it called again?
Just Men exclamation point.
So you would hate it. Okay. Yeah
Cochran
Dick Cochran Phil knows Phil Cochran and dick Parker. Okay, bark dick barker. Yes. All right
I would have had a chance John wiener, huh, then she dated an Alan Ludden and in Lane Allen
Steve Martin
wild Listening then Mo Finebucket Alan Steve Martin wild listening Venmo fine bucket that's for you Chris and
we're gonna start doing this we're gonna start paying this we can't be asking for
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guys I owe $12 I'm gonna do it right now I owe $12 from
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this right with Venmo so the let's see here I'm gonna do it I'm not allowed yes
to reveal the name because then all of a sudden our fans would be sending us all
sorts of money and we wouldn't want that under any circumstances. I am doing it
right now. $12.00. Wow. Pay and it's saying what's this for and I'm not telling
you what's it for. Put an emoji in there. I don't want to know. You have to put an
emoji. It makes you you can't just like have an empty one and make it private
because you don't want people like I hate it when people like just like let the world know
that they just had ice cream.
So $12 it is, I'm in.
Oh shit, Dan you just sent me a deposit for $12,000.
Oh shit.
This is a very real thing that can happen.
Do you have a Venmo, Greg Cody?
Do you have it installed and ready to go
because you owe money and it's a new day around here once Venmo gets involved with the sponsorship of these
things we have to respect the sponsor so what are you doing Stu gots did you do
it or not waiting for a QR code Mike's gonna take me out during the break and
I'll I'll send what I owe for today's fine I think it's four dollars so I owe
ten I think and and we'll pay it I love Venmo big fan of Venmo
My wife handles my Venmo Venmo affairs, so she's through her it will be paid
No, we're gonna know we're gonna do before you leave here today. I got 1-800 Venmo. Nobody picked up
Greg, how do you feel about dollar signs in a title like the?
10 hundred or ten,000 pyramid show
hosted by Dick Clark, I might add.
Another Dick.
It's a great show.
No, I don't like that either.
What are you talking about?
It's a dollar sign.
I know, but you love that show.
I know you love that show.
The pyramid?
Yes.
I have watched it.
It's a good show.
It's a great show.
Katie Wright was on that show.
I used to love Hollywood Squares.
Right.
Which might have had an exclamation point, but didn't.
It's back now. It's back on CBS. The Squares? which might have had an exclamation point, but didn't.
It's back now.
It's back on CBS.
Of course.
For like the fourth time.
Pyramid is now $50,000, is it not?
It's $100,000.
It's $100,000.
Inflation.
Only place where inflation's keeping up.
Is that a game show hall of famer?
Put it on the poll, Juju, at LeBotard Show.
Is $10,000 or $50,000 or $100,000 pyramid
a game show Hall of Famer?
Because I think it is Mark Andrews, an immortal.
But I don't think that everybody would think that.
Because the immortals are Wheel of Fortune
and Jeopardy and Family Feud.
Once you get into that second tier of game shows,
there tends to be a pretty big gulf
between the first ballot Hall of Famer
and somebody who gets in on the 15th pick.
What I love about the pyramid is,
I think it has the best way of settling
if you're gonna win big money or not.
Like I think there's a minute there
where you're just intrigued because you wanna see
if this person can fill the entire pyramid
before 60 seconds is up with the right clues, right?
I think that's the best way of settling a game show.
The way that I assign Hall of Famers
is if you're in your last round, am I watching?
No matter what's happening, am I stopping what I'm doing?
Like I will do this on Price is Right, right?
If you're in the showdown portion of the show
or if you're spinning the wheel, I'm gonna stop for a second. I'll do it with Price is Right, right? If you're in the showdown portion of the show or if you're spinning the wheel,
I'm gonna stop for a second.
I'll do it with Family Feud as well.
There aren't that many that you will do this with.
I hate the rounds that lead up to the final rounds
in the pyramid.
I don't like that.
I just wanna get straight to it.
Straight to the big money.
Straight to the $50,000, yes.
I agree.
We all love a pyramid visually.
You know, pyramids are fun.
Yeah. Is that true? Yeah, pyramids are fun. Put it on the poll at Lebatard's show. Do we all love a pyramid, visually. You know, pyramids are fun. Yeah. Is that true?
Yeah. Pyramids are fun. Put it on the poll at Lebatard's show. Do we all love a pyramid?
Yep. Dollar bill's got a pyramid on it. I think it's a good shape, right, Greg?
Yeah. It's beautiful. It's a, you know, it's, it's wonderful. I would love to visit a pyramid in
Egypt. Supposedly Egypt does not have the most pyramids. There's another country, I can't think of which one,
I think it's in South America.
That seems impossible.
It'd be a better stat if you knew the country.
It really would, yeah.
But I'm giving you one information I know,
which is a little bit enlightening.
Because if you ask 100 people
what country has the most pyramids, knee-jerk,
everybody says Egypt, right?
But I think it's like Bolivia or someplace.
It's Sudan.
Sudan, there you go, okay. Wrong continent, but that yeah you go okay wrong continent wrong continent not South America at all
you know is it Sudan or the Sudan Sudan you sure with an exclamation point yeah
sure thing hey you saw that car yet? Yeah, sold it to Carvana.
Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.
The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest, over 36 months?
Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot.
It was so convenient.
Just like that?
Yeah.
No hassle?
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I appreciate that.
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