The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Prolific Dick Wolf

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

Greg Cote is in rare old person form as he is ready to say "good riddance" to Jimmy Butler. Greg leads the crew in his dismissal of Butler's lack of effort as he tries to force his way to the Phoenix ...Suns. We PROMISE this is not an extended Jimmy Butler conversation. We promise. Then, how do you feel about punctuation in show titles? What's the best show with an exclamation point? What about commas? How about a question mark? Plus, the Game Show Hall of Fame and Betty White's dating history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadowin' it. Shadowin' it. We've got a couple of tensions, Stugats, that we could ride today. We've got a handful of people here, I'm not gonna name names, who appear to be angry at Dan Patrick
Starting point is 00:01:32 for big-timing our show. We can start there. Or, on a rare Greg Cody Thursday, Greg Cody has hit someone in sports with a good riddance. Yes he has. I was delighted to see it. Once we've arrived at good riddance, I saw you and Cody working feverishly on a top five list
Starting point is 00:01:55 of old insults that Greg Cody would use in a top five. Which would you prefer? Would you want the general stomping anger of producers who feel the Dan Patrick show is big-timing us, or would you like Greg Cody's good riddance? I want angry producers. We'll get to Greg Cody, but I would like to hear the angry producers being mad at Dan Patrick.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Okay, so I have to be careful here, okay, because our relationship with Dan Patrick includes a partnership that has tickets still on sale at Tipitina's dot com because Wednesday of the Super Bowl at the great Tipitina's in uptown, it really is a great bar. We are doing a Super Bowl partnership partnership thing, but I too find myself on mornings when Dan Patrick summons, feeling like I'm being summoned. In the morning, hey Dan, can you get over here as if we don't have a show at exactly the same time
Starting point is 00:02:59 that he does and that I wouldn't be busy keeping the same hours that he does over the last many years. And I just got a text that kind of grinded my gears a little bit too. I asked can we make sure that this is a simulcast because we are you know doing our show. I want to if we're going to do this let's both use it and the response was yeah absolutely let's just make sure it's just one-on-one though just the two dance. Wow. Which is basically no Sougats, no Greg Cody, certainly no shipping container.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Please keep them out of this. And yeah, I'm a little bothered by this, no doubt. Hmm. What are we going to do about all that? You know me, I'm all for the more the merrier, but we do different shows and have different temperaments. And I don't think he liked it in the last segment. I wouldn't blame him if he didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Last time we were on with him, Greg Cote very obviously came to the mic to me looking to talk, and I'm like, what, Greg, did you want to talk about 50 Shades of Grey? And there was music playing in the background that was sensual, and I understand why Dan Patrick, a creature of habit, might not like the unpredictability of me not being able to read whether or not
Starting point is 00:04:05 Greg Cody wants to talk. Is it your bit to pretend like you're not the shit stirrer? Like, cause you're gaslighting me right now. Because your whole thing is like, let's put people on the air and fight. Like I said that in confidence, like I'm a little annoyed with this DP thing because I've been trying to get them on.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I didn't name you. The first words out of your mouth is like, we gotta fight on our hands. I didn't name you. You love people fighting on the air, it's crazy. I did not name you. I did not bring up your anger for any other reason other than you were angrier than I was about it.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah, I told you that in confidence, Dan. But I didn't say it was you who said it. Yeah, but I didn't want it on the air. I said it. Mike, nothing is in confidence, you know this. You've been working with Dan for a long time. I'm on to it. It took me 20 years, but Dan loves having people fight on the air. He's like David Caruso in CSI. He just wants an explosion behind him, but he doesn't look cool.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I also, I thought that Greg's idea to do the 50 Shades of Grey thing that Greg came up with was actually a really good idea by Greg that was a hundred percent his idea. There you go Yeah, thank you. Mm-hmm. You know what Dan Patrick? He's full of himself. Let's be honest. Yeah Oh, wow I I think you should threaten to back out of the New Orleans event with him and instead of Dan and Dan just make it Dan He can do it solo, right? Because he's just respect fine another day I think you're greatly overselling what kind of leverage that actually is I think Dan Patrick would be totally fine with this this is the down labor tour show with this two guys podcast Greg are you ready with your top five list of old man insults or is that not ready?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Because good riddance is something that is not said by anyone under 70 years old, correct? That's not true, Jessica, you'll say good riddance, but you're a fossilized old person inside. Like you're in disguise. You're in disguise. You do watch a lot of Colombo here you're hiding you're wearing you're wearing a costume that pretends that you're not somebody with old person sensibilities but you came in here today talking about a new CBS show oh my god it sounds amazing Dan have you seen what this new show is called no I don't watch CBS except on Sunday morning that magazine show that shows the sound of streams
Starting point is 00:06:25 for 90 seconds, great. Still good. Just talking about that sound makes me feel like I have to take a piss. No, this new show, it's called FBI colon CIA. Oh wow. I'm in. Two different departments.
Starting point is 00:06:40 What does that mean? What do you mean? FBI CIA. What else do you need to say? This is the mean? FBI, CIA. Yep. What else do you need to say? This is the laziest show I've ever heard. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You know, NCIS, LA. Why isn't it law and order? FBI, CIA. That's a great idea. Well, it's a different universe altogether.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That's a Dick Wolf universe. Just packaged differently. Good riddance, Greg? Yeah, good riddance. It's one of those classic phrases. It's a little bit of cliche, but not really. I think it's a classic. It stands the test of time, good riddance. You can say it about a lot of cliche, but not really. I think it's a classic, it stands the test of time, good riddance, you can say it about a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:07:29 about a lot of situations across the decades. I think it's, and I think it fits this situation. You know, wild guess who I was talking about. I mean, Jimmy Butler. Come on. This is ridiculous, okay? What's going on is absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what the rule is.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I don't know what the Players Association allows, but to me, they should do more than suspend him. They should fine him. You know, he's really thrown a wrench in the whole season. Those are without pay. Those suspensions are without pay. And I think he makes like 500 grand a game. So those aren't small penalties.
Starting point is 00:08:09 That's fair. Okay, good. That's good. Because he deserves it. I feel better now. He's like, I have no problem. We heard a phone. It was mine.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It was mine. I'm admitting to it. Do I owe double today because Greg is in? It was my phone. It's only great. It really is a surprise though for it to be a confession. Rare is the immediate StuGott's confession to a crime. Usually it's an assortment of moves. Don't go get cash though, StuGott.
Starting point is 00:08:35 You got to do it on Venmo. You got the Venmo fine bucket now. Don't worry, I've got a QR code for you to scan during the break. All right, thank you. A dedicated straight-laced FBI agent and a street smart CIA agent are part of a new clandestine task force charged with solving and preventing domestic terrorism
Starting point is 00:08:51 in and around New York City. Goosebumps. Goosebumps. Amazing. What's the name of that task force? Is it FBI, CIA? Yes. I feel like that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I want to say it's wordy, but it's just letters. I don't watch any TV show that's got a Semicolon or a colon no punctuation should ever be in the title of a TV show. Hmm. Okay, that's for starters Right, let's think about this. What is the greatest TV show with punctuation in it? Mesh at let me line is it anyway Mesh is perfect Yes is perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how much better. Roy Roy Roy's been waiting all his life for that question. When did I finally he's asking 78 television show mash. He was
Starting point is 00:09:37 ready to bounce with a swiftness and speed that was really uncommon for the proceedings. Jeopardy. Oh yeah. Wow. Jeopardy! Unnecessary. It really is. What do you mean it's unnecessary? Why are you going to put an exclamation point after Jeopardy? It should be a question mark. Jeopardy? Right? No, there's got to be an urgency around it. You have to be in Jeopardy. But all there's gonna be an urgency around Jeopardy no, but all the answers are in the form of a question Played to the theme of the game show rather than Jeopardy, right? Should it just be what is Jeopardy? Yes Yeah, what is Jeopardy? No, there needs to be an urgency to the Jeopardy if you're saying the exclamation point is not needed here Then you're saying in general the exclamation point is not needed. Yeah, but Trebek
Starting point is 00:10:29 God rest his soul was not a exclamation point type personality right he was he was intellectual but it was understated Mike's point though the announcer welcome to Jeopardy what about who's the boss are you smarter than a fifth grader well Well I really was looking more for colons and sort of the fringe punctuations. You guys went straight to question marks and exclamation points. Law and Order SVU I think would be the most famous of the colons. That show's been on for an eternity. Yeah and I hate that every time I see it and there's so many iterations of that. The colons are all over the universe now.
Starting point is 00:11:04 There's never been a TV show with an ampersand no no no no I thought that was the word no no no it's gonna have to say there's never been a show with it early to answer she gots his question who is Bruce Springsteen hmm why excellent X-files why Greg would you be so aggressive about saying there's never been a show with an ampersand when you don't know that? Like, why, why?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Why would you be? Explain the odds. Right. I mean, come on. You have to play them with confidence, Dan. You do, yes. It's from the StuGOT's textbook of how to do this. Greg, are you anti-movie with punctuation, too?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Because there's a lot of great movies with punctuation. Mr. Impossible right? Home Alone 2 Lost in New York. Yeah I mean it's too easy I guess right let's just use the language let's just use words no punctuation it's just a personal rule of mine I'm not saying I'm right. You are saying you're right put it on the poll at LeBataille show the same way you were saying you were right. You are saying you're right put it on the pole at LeBatard show the same way You were saying you were right that there's never been a show with an ampersand, right? Well, we were talking about a show with an ampersand at LeBatard show put it on the pole
Starting point is 00:12:13 Has there ever been a good show with a colon in the title, but you are saying good riddance to Jimmy Butler You're calling him names I'm calling him names. I'm calling him a selfish player right now who quit on his team. I don't think there's any way to parse that. Is there? I mean, you tend to differ with me on, yesterday you disagreed when I said
Starting point is 00:12:41 that he's the antithesis of the best traits of heat culture. How can you deny that with what he's done? And in the latest club statement, they're not just saying that it's conduct detrimental to the team, they're saying it's insubordinate action. Well, this part is interesting to me. This is the lone remaining part of this that's interesting to me. This is the lone remaining part of this that's interesting to me until it becomes something that continues to escalate.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Last week, Mike Ryan said something about Pat Riley in which he called him a little bit prideful. I will tell you that in my experience with Pat Riley throughout the entirety of his career in Miami, that after what happened to him on LeBron James, the specifics of the overt embarrassment, overt public embarrassment,
Starting point is 00:13:41 something like that had never happened to a man whose public image has only had the hit of New York on it, which was very painful, the way that he left New York. When he's fighting with management, it becomes you're a quitter, you're a scoundrel, and the reason he left New York is because he wanted this kind of power.
Starting point is 00:14:02 He did not feel like he had this kind of power in New York. When he came to Miami, he got this kind of power. He did not feel like he had this kind of power in New York. When he came to Miami, he got this kind of power. So I ask you, because I will say that something happened to Pat Riley in how it is that that hurt, that he had never experienced before in his life because of how the pride gets stung on, man, everyone thinks of me a certain way and I just got turned upside down by a player and his friends who are now starting a five billion dollar league and
Starting point is 00:14:38 realize no, we'll grab the lessons there and we'll take them with us and we'll do some stuff with that and got played publicly in a way that everyone saw. I will say that having seen him go through that and having seen him really legitimately hurt by that, that I wouldn't be surprised in this circumstance if he finds the urge to be petty about, I'll send you to Utah. Like, you're not gonna win this with me if all the offers are equal. You're not gonna be the one who publicly embarrasses me. Here's another suspension.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Here's another suspension. I don't think that's a wise game to play with Jimmy Butler. I don't think the way that they're doing this is the way to do it if you want anything that maximizes return on Jimmy Butler but I don't know for sure that the pettiness of being embarrassed this way wouldn't grab somebody in a really human way and I'm saying that not having talked to him about it at all just having covered the man for a while and realizing that this he does not like. Like if you're going to
Starting point is 00:15:45 put him in front of people for a power struggle, the reason the thing that LeBron hurt so much wasn't just that he took the titles with him and wasn't just the embarrassment, is that there was no move after. Like there was no, I can punish him now, that's it, he's got his freedom and there's nothing that I can do about this embarrassment. I would not want to work for that man after I've embarrassed him. I just don't think he has that option. Because like when Portland did this, refused to send Damian Lillard where he wanted to go, Lillard was a bit more desirable by a pretty wide margin than Jimmy Butler is presently.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I mean, I don't know the teams that are interested outside of the one that's been reported in Phoenix, but this is not the same kind of situation. This is a very well-known malcontent that if you invite into your franchise, Miami's an outlier, it usually goes to hell way before that. I'm just telling you that where all of these tensions reside, this is an unusual one. I'm saying throughout sports, it's an unusual one to have in this setting.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Imagine Bill Belichick keeping a player he does not want to keep, who continues to desecrate the Patriot way in a way that makes the local columnist call him quitter and selfish and Celebrate that they're just gonna keep finding reasons to punish him and take away money and Jimmy's not gonna want to work under those circumstances I believe that did happen with Tom Brady. Right. He wanted him out like two years before he was actually out Because he wasn't following in line with the Patriot way Yeah, he wanted more rights Isn't this a bad strategy for Pat in general because aren't other players going to look at this and the treatment of Jimmy Butler at the very end here and be like I don't want to play for an old bitter guy who's still mad about
Starting point is 00:17:32 Something LeBron James did to him at the very end. Yeah, I mean we've seen that take that's like a Paul Pierce take It's an anti-Miami thing. I think Given the players here, you can't hold Miami's history. I was just going to focus on Jimmy's history, but yeah, it's fair. It went sideways with Dwayne Wade. We had the happy ending, but he did leave and nobody felt good about the way that that ended. I think it is. I think that would be fair. Billy felt good about it. It happened twice. LeBron, Wade, Butler still came here. I don't see a world where someone's turning down $50 million to play in Miami if that were to come. But there are two parts of this that are different
Starting point is 00:18:10 and interesting. We mentioned the Damian Lillard part. That was done during an off season. Teams have a lot more flexibility. The fact that we're in the middle of a season right now with a new CBA that's made it really difficult to move big contracts means that you need four or five teams to participate.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It means you need Bradley Beal to wave his trade clause to potentially go to a place that he doesn't want if you're going to send Jimmy to Phoenix individually. But while he was wearing those Phoenix Suns colored shoes against in the Heat's most recent game against Portland, Bobby Marks put out some really interesting statistics per second spectrum about Jimmy's hustle on the floor over the last several games So he's attempted fewer than 10 field goal attempts in four of his last five games in that five game stretch
Starting point is 00:18:56 No more than 57 points 42 field goal attempts and 14 free throw attempts the last time that occurred in his career 2013 he moved at a fast speed according to NBA second spectrum attempts and 14 free throw attempts. The last time that occurred in his career, 2013. He moved at a fast speed, according to NBA's second spectrum, just 5% of the time, which is the second lowest percentage in a game in which he's played at least 20 minutes this season. Took a shot on 14% of his touches, the third lowest percentage in a game this season,
Starting point is 00:19:21 passed the ball on 76% of his touches, tied for the second highest percentage in a game this season, passed the ball on 76% of his touches, tied for the second highest percentage in a game this season. So he has just been giving zero effort on the floor and it's clear when he's out there. Quantifiable loafing. We have to, I have to issue a formal apology. It appears that FBI is in the Dick Wolf universe.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Oh. Yeah, and also, this is a blind spot. Prolific Dick Wolf universe. The Dickverse, if you will. Also, just a gaping hole in my knowledge when it comes to all CBS shows, it appears, Jess was informing me, FBI is pretty huge.
Starting point is 00:19:57 It's like one of the most watched shows on television right now. It's averaging over eight million viewers. So yeah, the FBI would get top billing Dan over CIA whoever is disputing that you're wrong Dick Wolf also the orchestrator of the Chicago what would you call that universe the Chicago verse Chicago yeah so you're not a fire so what you're saying is because it's Dick Wolf you're saying that it should just be law and order Chicago FBI
Starting point is 00:20:25 CIA that we should just mash it all together when you you read the description on of FBI CIA but I still don't totally understand what it's about it's not FBI versus CIA correct because I think I might actually taking each other on a series of competition I think I'd be more interested in that Good idea by you FBI versus CIA now. That's a idea for the prolific dickwolf universe What is this idea though? I still don't understand what their forces? In and around if you have to ask then it's not for you now there's an FBI Sydney how is how is that I thought the FBI was just like distinctly American
Starting point is 00:21:17 jurisdictional situation they just wanted to film near the Opera house phrase mate well can you seem to be really good at searching this. The United States, like, we don't... Yeah, we don't do stuff in other countries. We stick to our own country. That's what we're known for. Really? Well, when we interfere with other countries, we typically don't send the FBI, do we?
Starting point is 00:21:37 Sorry, I was being sarcastic and I think that maybe someone to my left thought that I was not. America first. Oh. Hey friends, Jeremy here. And like a lot of you, I imagine, I'm someone who has multiple jobs wearing multiple hats, working all sorts of different hours throughout the week.
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Starting point is 00:23:05 Tracking all our cars on Carvana Value Tracker on all our devices? Yes, Kristin, yes I am. Well, I've been looking for my phone for- In Dax's domain, we see all. So we always know what our cars are worth. All of them? All of them.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Value Surge trucks up 3.9%. That's a great offer. I know, sell? Sell. Track your car's a great offer. I know. Sell? Sell. Track your car's value with Carvana Value Tracker today. Hey, Jeremy. Yes, Mike? Have you ever had a fireside conversation
Starting point is 00:23:36 during a football Sunday during the winter? Sure. We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had the premise of it. I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like, uh... We're bundled up, but certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that. But we do have our Football Sundays, and one thing that always makes Football Sundays good, and I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this, Miller time.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Oh, yeah! Miller light makes the winter better, it makes Football Sundays better, it makes even hanging out around you better. Thanks, Mike. That was kind. I appreciate that. You're my friend. When I have a Miller Lite in my hand, pretty much everybody is my friend because we are like-minded.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Because we like beer that actually tastes like beer. Oh, and now, the new year, it's the perfect time to have a Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. People out there, I want you to listen to me. And Jeremy, you too, because you know it hits you just different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite, great taste, 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options for you.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Don LeBataard! I'm not going to apologize. I wouldn't expect you to apologize. Then? You're a giant infant. Okay. You have no control over your emotions. You have no control over your emotions when you're calling someone you know an idiot. I don't deserve it. Okay. I don't deserve it. Okay
Starting point is 00:25:06 I don't deserve it all right, and you're a fool for saying it okay? Still gods you're a fool. Yeah, I was kind of falling Right now you're locking in on yeah, let's drop the gloves pal Thanking me for what every day for what I've done around this character and the second shit gets real for you you want to come at me and call me a fool no seriously Jeremy seriously I've added ten years to your career this is the done libertar show with this two gods I wanted to ask you guys something that you do not see a lot of and I would say that if
Starting point is 00:25:50 you're not a fan of the team or the person, generally this is not going to be something that sports fans receive well, even though all it is is a blunt truth honesty that most people aren't speaking out loud. Dan Hurley, the Yukon coach, during a mic'd up moment, yelled at a referee in a moment of, really, I got taken aback by the arrogance, even though I understand that this arrogance often exists in people, and I understand that anger is data, that it's information, that it just sort of reveals things to people about themselves and others. Dan Hurley yelling at a referee when I talk about,
Starting point is 00:26:33 I need you to imagine what Pat Riley Petty feels like when you have had the career of a thousand Dan Hurleys. And a referee turns his back to you and that respect is met with saying to him don't turn your back on me I'm the best coach in the effing sport couldn't believe that came out of his mouth he has won back-to-back titles I don't disagree with him can't believe it came out of his mouth that's a bar I like it I have to issue another correction and an apology. It's not FBI, Sidney.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's international. No, it's NCIS. Well, there is an FBI international. Yes, there is. How does that exist? NCIS, Sidney, which follows a fictional team of special agents from the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, NCIS, investigating crimes.
Starting point is 00:27:20 The series set in Sydney, Australia follows a joint task force that involves NCIS agents and Australian federal Police officers working together on investigations involving American military personnel. Nerve. So it's actually really NCIS AFP, Australian Federal Police. And this is allowed because we have a naval station there. Actually the closest one is in Pith.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I think we need to rename a show in the Dick universe, NCIS FBI Law and Order AFP Chicago. Can't have enough acronyms. Just put them all together and see if you get it. Just an entire demographic of my parents and Stan Van Gundy watching. These are literally the most popular shows in this country right now.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Someone skeeted at me, how about a new show called NYPD Blue Chicago? I like that idea. Just keep throwing firefighters and workers and CIA and FBI, throw a couple of spies in there. Miami Vice, Brooklyn. Put Angela Lansbury in there somewhere. What?
Starting point is 00:28:26 What? Just CBS. Now there's a show with punctuation that is an all time banger. Murder, she wrote. I was looking for the commas. I was hoping for commas. You guys went all, I'm still stunned
Starting point is 00:28:39 by the exclamation point on jeopardy being something that you guys object to. When I do believe that when a contestant finds him or herself in Jeopardy, it needs to be urgent. It can't be question, is there Jeopardy? It can't be period, there's Jeopardy. It's gotta be holy shit, someone's in Jeopardy. Like it needs the exclamation point. You're a writer.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I figured you'd know that. No, because Jeopardy! begs a question mark. Because oftentimes you aren't sure whether you're in Jeopardy! If I'm on a mountaintop. I think you know. If I'm standing near a cliff, am I in Jeopardy? Yes. Yes, you are. What you're not in Jeopardy! of is when you're on that game show,
Starting point is 00:29:23 when the worst thing that could happen is, doot, doot, doot. There's a lot of hyphenated shows too, Greg. We've got Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Hawaii Five-O. I mean, what are you doing with hyphens? I don't like hyphens. I don't like acronyms in a title of a show. I don't like question marks. I don't like numbers.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Did you like mash? Words. Just have words. You know, Password was the first game show I ever loved. I think it was Alan Ludden, wonderful game show host. It's a word, password, no explanation points. They didn't call it PW as an abbreviation. You know, there wasn't a colon.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Password, you know, guess the word. Just simplify, simplify. We're getting too complicated, too formulaic. Get back to basics. With all these numbers and acronyms, colons. Mm-hmm. This is stupid. You sound so much like Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I dig what you're saying, man. Password. Sitting around the kitchen table in, man. Password. Sitting around the kitchen table and scranton. Watching Password. Oh, no. My dad said, why can't shows be like Password again? It really is a bad impression.
Starting point is 00:30:36 It's scranton. That's not good. Greg, that's not good. Scranton. Sitting around the kitchen table and scranton. The impression doesn't work without the scranton. Why would you forget the only part of the impression that makes it an impression worth listening to?
Starting point is 00:30:49 My dad, you know, sitting around the kitchen table in Scranton. There you go. Do you know what MASH stands for? Medical Ass Wipe Shithole Hospital. What? Nailed it. It's the first thing I can come up with.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I don't say. What does it stand for? I'm not disrespecting whatever it really stands for. I'm guessing the A is army, the H is hospital, the M probably mobile, cause they were in Vietnam. That's a good point by you. Put it on the poll at Labataar Show. Do you know what MASH stands for? I guess the S can be shithole. I don't know what that one is. The reason that I bring it up is because when you mention
Starting point is 00:31:33 that you don't want any punctuation, I thought for some reason of the old television show Motorcycle Cops because we were talking about all this NCSIC it I CIA chips FBI that's right Dr. Quinn medicine woman oh wow that's not as good as murder she wrote no but I'm not I don't it's subjective let me ask this question it may be a stupid one I got to be honest while I know that it should have a comma between the murder and the she i don't think of it as having a comma between uh... the murder and the she i thought it was just murder she wrote three words with no comment how would that make sense though i was like like grammatically it's murder
Starting point is 00:32:17 she wrote understood i was a writer definitely a comma you're right that it doesn't make sense grammatically but it would have a period at the end of wrote if we were trying to make it grammatically correct. Like that's not what we were going for. Jesus. Like, I know, I just thought it was murder she wrote. I did not think of a comma being in there. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:37 My apologies. I did not expect the punctuation conversation to break out around good riddance. But you're saying if they're going comma there, they need to finish it off with a period. If the effort is to be grammatically correct, yes. Understood. Thank you. Yes. It should be she wrote about murder. No that's no fun. No that's wordy and you seem you seem to be objecting publicly to the idea of everybody's in such a big hurry that they've got to make it an acronym instead of just saying all of the words to make it convenient for you.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah, I mean sports teams could adopt that and all of a sudden they're no longer the New York Yankees or the N.Y.Y. Put an exclamation point on that. Yankees, jeopardy, Yankees! Exclamation point. Does Yes Network have an exclamation point? I. Yankees, jeopardy, Yankees exclamation point. You gotta draw the line somewhere. Does Yes Network have an exclamation point? I feel like it might.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Also, when Murder, She Wrote and Magnum PI did their crossover, double commas in that situation. I actually just came up with what I think is a decent idea for a professional sports team, which is put an exclamation point on your name. Make it Yankees exclamation point and create an entirely new marketing stream. Be the first, right? There is no team that has an exclamation point on its name that punctuates its name with an exclamation point.
Starting point is 00:33:57 But you're thinking you don't use it very often. I know that in writing it's frowned upon that the exclamation point is a bit of punctuation that other punctuation looks at and says you're too loud yeah you're too much you're not you have no subtle it's fake excitement it's just it's not fake excitement it is in time it's just it's just too it's too overt it's a punctuation is meant to not get in the way exclamation point is a little bit look at me also when my wife texts me the exclamation points in her texts are way overboard like there will be five exclamation point did you see this and it's a question but she'll put five
Starting point is 00:34:37 exclamation points at the end of it it's just it's an epidemic really it's an epidemic that we're talking about. Greg, she's excited. Whatever she's sending you, she's excited about it. I'm with my dad though. No exclamation points. You also, if you have multiple sentences, they can't both have exclamation points.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Like something, you ever exclamation point the first sentence and then you write a second sentence, you're like, oh, this one deserves it more. So you go back and you take out the first one and only have one, because you don't wanna, it's like you're shouting at someone if both sentences have an exclamation point. I want to ask Greg and Stugat something as people who are vigilantly and militantly
Starting point is 00:35:12 against learning and new information because while Jeremy was talking giving what could be seen as good empirical information on Jimmy Butler for how you would quantify quitting. Stu got muttered in my earpiece numbers, so many numbers, and stopped listening to Jeremy entirely even though Jeremy was giving facts that would quantify quitting which I thought is something that people love to yell about in this particular endeavor that we do. Love calling someone else a quitter. I think fans love, media people love to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yeah, and I rarely do it. So when I call him a quitter, I think I can back it up. And what Jeremy said, is it TMI of course it is because It's it's like telling me that he's running 19.6 miles an hour instead of 21 miles an hour, you know, it's just it my head explodes But when the too much information is backing what I believe It's necessary you like Then you like it, yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I've been talking with Greg and Stugatz about this for probably a decade, and I think I just end up being wrong even though when it comes to content, people really want information right up until it's not information that they want and to me it's a bit it's a bit confusing because I would want anything that proves to me something that I suspect but you guys don't want that information I saw Stu got to actively stop listening on the second or third
Starting point is 00:37:03 number that Jeremy gave because the math, and this is an American affliction, the math is something he doesn't want to play with. He doesn't want math anywhere near his sports. It's a combination of the numbers and the messenger. I don't care, by the way, how fast he's running, if he's running fast, how often he's running. I don't care. That's his job.
Starting point is 00:37:24 His job is to run. Here are stats that I care about, Dan. He didn't smile during the pregame. He wore Phoenix Sun's colors a couple of nights ago. That was annoying. And he sat a couple of seats away from any of his teammates. Those are the stats I care about. Quitter. That's it. Fast. Run fast. Here is information people really want, Dan. Alan Ludden was married to Betty White before he died. Oh, that you know that yeah she got her own Betty come on she was married a few times yes she was that's not an insult baby come on Betty in it
Starting point is 00:38:02 we should all be so lucky to live Betty White's life. Yes, I am right. Put it on the poll, Juju at Levitard Show. Should we all be so lucky, but she's not old at all, Jessica. Should we all be so lucky to live Betty White's life? And also, have you ever heard Betty White accused of getting around? Because that's the first time I've heard that accusation. We could probably leave the second one off. I'm asking if you've ever heard it, because I've heard that accusation. We can probably leave the second one off.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I'm asking if you've ever heard it because I've never, Betty White. You have heard it, you just did. It's the first time. Betty White is an American icon. Betty White is one of the rare people who gets to be universally beloved. Her and Dolly Parton. I don't know if there's a third. Yeah, but she wasn't always a level ninety years old
Starting point is 00:38:45 you know i mean she will when i say betty white got around i mean when she was a young woman it's quantifiable i don't say it is a pejorative okay i don't say it is a but i don't look at his but i don't look down on women who choose to be married several times it's it's fine saying you know saying saying a woman got around tends to be viewed as pejorative it's not absolutely well why say it well because
Starting point is 00:39:14 Betty White how many times was she married three times three times that we know once to a man that we know of right dick Parker dick barker. Oh dick barker. Yeah, what a name There's actually a website called who's dated who calm on here It says she's had four relationships the three marriages you guys reference and she also dated Phil Cochran from 58 to 62 Exclamation mark in it called Just Men. Greg, have you heard of this show? Betty White was the host, or she started it apparently in the 80s. And it pitted two female contestants who were asked to predict answers to a series of yes-no questions posed previously to a panel of seven male celebrities.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Oh, I had never heard of that. What's it called again? Just Men exclamation point. So you would hate it. Okay. Yeah Cochran Dick Cochran Phil knows Phil Cochran and dick Parker. Okay, bark dick barker. Yes. All right I would have had a chance John wiener, huh, then she dated an Alan Ludden and in Lane Allen Steve Martin
Starting point is 00:40:23 wild Listening then Mo Finebucket Alan Steve Martin wild listening Venmo fine bucket that's for you Chris and we're gonna start doing this we're gonna start paying this we can't be asking for big sponsors to join us and then do the same stuff we've always done I'm waiting on a code I'm gonna I'm walking you out there but Billy does this thing too you guys I owe $12 I'm gonna do it right now I owe $12 from before and I'm gonna do it right now to get us started because we have not done this right with Venmo so the let's see here I'm gonna do it I'm not allowed yes to reveal the name because then all of a sudden our fans would be sending us all
Starting point is 00:41:04 sorts of money and we wouldn't want that under any circumstances. I am doing it right now. $12.00. Wow. Pay and it's saying what's this for and I'm not telling you what's it for. Put an emoji in there. I don't want to know. You have to put an emoji. It makes you you can't just like have an empty one and make it private because you don't want people like I hate it when people like just like let the world know that they just had ice cream. So $12 it is, I'm in. Oh shit, Dan you just sent me a deposit for $12,000.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Oh shit. This is a very real thing that can happen. Do you have a Venmo, Greg Cody? Do you have it installed and ready to go because you owe money and it's a new day around here once Venmo gets involved with the sponsorship of these things we have to respect the sponsor so what are you doing Stu gots did you do it or not waiting for a QR code Mike's gonna take me out during the break and I'll I'll send what I owe for today's fine I think it's four dollars so I owe
Starting point is 00:42:00 ten I think and and we'll pay it I love Venmo big fan of Venmo My wife handles my Venmo Venmo affairs, so she's through her it will be paid No, we're gonna know we're gonna do before you leave here today. I got 1-800 Venmo. Nobody picked up Greg, how do you feel about dollar signs in a title like the? 10 hundred or ten,000 pyramid show hosted by Dick Clark, I might add. Another Dick. It's a great show.
Starting point is 00:42:28 No, I don't like that either. What are you talking about? It's a dollar sign. I know, but you love that show. I know you love that show. The pyramid? Yes. I have watched it.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It's a good show. It's a great show. Katie Wright was on that show. I used to love Hollywood Squares. Right. Which might have had an exclamation point, but didn't. It's back now. It's back on CBS. The Squares? which might have had an exclamation point, but didn't. It's back now.
Starting point is 00:42:46 It's back on CBS. Of course. For like the fourth time. Pyramid is now $50,000, is it not? It's $100,000. It's $100,000. Inflation. Only place where inflation's keeping up.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Is that a game show hall of famer? Put it on the poll, Juju, at LeBotard Show. Is $10,000 or $50,000 or $100,000 pyramid a game show Hall of Famer? Because I think it is Mark Andrews, an immortal. But I don't think that everybody would think that. Because the immortals are Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy and Family Feud.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Once you get into that second tier of game shows, there tends to be a pretty big gulf between the first ballot Hall of Famer and somebody who gets in on the 15th pick. What I love about the pyramid is, I think it has the best way of settling if you're gonna win big money or not. Like I think there's a minute there
Starting point is 00:43:37 where you're just intrigued because you wanna see if this person can fill the entire pyramid before 60 seconds is up with the right clues, right? I think that's the best way of settling a game show. The way that I assign Hall of Famers is if you're in your last round, am I watching? No matter what's happening, am I stopping what I'm doing? Like I will do this on Price is Right, right?
Starting point is 00:44:01 If you're in the showdown portion of the show or if you're spinning the wheel, I'm gonna stop for a second. I'll do it with Price is Right, right? If you're in the showdown portion of the show or if you're spinning the wheel, I'm gonna stop for a second. I'll do it with Family Feud as well. There aren't that many that you will do this with. I hate the rounds that lead up to the final rounds in the pyramid. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I just wanna get straight to it. Straight to the big money. Straight to the $50,000, yes. I agree. We all love a pyramid visually. You know, pyramids are fun. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah, pyramids are fun. Put it on the poll at Lebatard's show. Do we all love a pyramid, visually. You know, pyramids are fun. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah. Pyramids are fun. Put it on the poll at Lebatard's show. Do we all love a pyramid?
Starting point is 00:44:29 Yep. Dollar bill's got a pyramid on it. I think it's a good shape, right, Greg? Yeah. It's beautiful. It's a, you know, it's, it's wonderful. I would love to visit a pyramid in Egypt. Supposedly Egypt does not have the most pyramids. There's another country, I can't think of which one, I think it's in South America. That seems impossible. It'd be a better stat if you knew the country. It really would, yeah. But I'm giving you one information I know,
Starting point is 00:44:53 which is a little bit enlightening. Because if you ask 100 people what country has the most pyramids, knee-jerk, everybody says Egypt, right? But I think it's like Bolivia or someplace. It's Sudan. Sudan, there you go, okay. Wrong continent, but that yeah you go okay wrong continent wrong continent not South America at all you know is it Sudan or the Sudan Sudan you sure with an exclamation point yeah
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