The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Sexual Meanderings At Jungle Palace

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

"Being in love means never having to say you're sorry." Jeremy is Roy, Roy is Siegfried, and Dan is annoyed. But last night, the Spurs took it to the Heat as Miami lost its fifth straight game, but we'll tell you the biggest takeaway: Victor Wembanyama is worth the price of admission. Today's cast: Dan, Greg, Zaslow, Chris, Amin, Jeremy (Roy), Mike, and Roy (Siegfried). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, were Sigfried and Boyd lovers? Did you just call them Woy? No. It sounded like you called them Sigfried and Woy. I did not. Yeah, I think you did. Were they? They're no longer with us, right?

I think there's still a lot. Sigfried and Woy are no longer with us? They magically disappeared. They both died. Thank you. You're Roy today? I am. And Roy is Siegfried?

That's right. So Roy is not Roy today. I'm Roy. Okay. But Roy is Sigfried. Greg, Roy? Yes. Correct. Greg just said that Roy looks good in that wig. Thank you.

Seriously. Oh, that's going to get annoying. That's going to get annoying if every time I say Roy, he answers because he's Roy and your Sigfried. But can we answer Zaz's question? They lovers? We don't know, do we? How do we don't know? I think people assumed that they were, but I don't believe that they ever confirmed.

that. Per Wikipedia, Siegfried and Roy were romantically involved, though details were never described. The details were they had a lot of sex. I don't believe those were the details. I mean, it has to be. I believe you're imagining that. They lived together at Jungle Palace, a Moroccan-themed eight-acre estate in the Las Vegas area, part of their 80-acre property they called Little Bavaria. Yeah, that's a lot of sex happening. Separate houses on the property since 96. That's a heady play. I think Rob Zombie does that too. I'm pretty sure that they were a couple at one point and then stayed together because the business worked. Put it on the poll, please, at Lebitard Show.

Is there a lot of sexual meandering at Jungle Palace, the Moroccan venue? Yeah, the business worked until it didn't it. That's correct, Roy. I'm sorry, Sigfried. Thank you. That's good analysis by you. The business did work for them very well right up until the tiger attacked one of them. And then that's one of the perils of doing business with a tiger.

Well, it's my belief that I was having a stroke and the tiger was just trying to save me from said stroke. Not that I had a stroke after due to medical complications. Dude, that was one of the great explanations ever. Like, no, no, no, no. It's not the tiger's fault. Like he actually was concerned. Like, hey, man, are you okay? We did this bit, right, on the show?

Like, three years ago. Like, hey, man, are you okay? Hey, man, this guy's having a stroke. I got to save them. They were concerned with the optics right until the very end, and they didn't want to harm the meal ticket after the meal ticket had quite literally harmed them. Made them into a meal ticket. Purdue was a number one seed as?

Kurt Cousin look like JCPen. Northwestern is gone from the tournament. Jim Harbaugh looks like a casket salesman. Fairley Dickinson, 16 seed, rep by Mike McDaniel looked like a college student on the full-ride scholarship for e-sports. What a run. I've always known that Greg Cody

is in love with the sound of his own voice, but never more so than when it is singing. I wish we'd had the narcissist cam on right there so you guys could have seen him dancing with delight to his looks-like song. There was pride. He wasn't really even smiling. It was just this look of,

I'm proud of this. No, he was radiant. It was beyond a smile. It was somewhere in the realm of sunshine. It was a good performance. You know, you don't deny the obvious. It was a good performance. Full credit to producer Yeti working as magic in the background.

There's a time for an acceptance speech. I just wanted to point out that you're a narcissist. I thought I was winning an award. Amin came in today. He too was radiant because he loves him some basketball. And he came in here today saying, and this is the highest compliment. Wembe, worth the price of admission, even though Amin doesn't have to pay

to get into the games. Let me tell you, I would have. I would have. What I saw last night? Absolutely. Like, I was telling Jeremy earlier, Dan, that Wembe gets into situations that for the entire history of basketball,

that ends in a tough shot, right? Gets in the paint, but not quite at the rim. He gets some contact. And usually, like, oh, he's going to have to throw up a floater or something like that. And last night, at least three or four different time, like, nope, I'm just going to reach over and dunk it. It's just so staggering.

You're not used to seeing that happen. Someone in that situation, finish it off with a dunk and not a ferocious, violent dunk of like, oh, I just went right through you and chest to chest, Amari Stata Mara style. Nope. No, it's absurd. It feels sometimes like he doesn't have to jump in order to even do it. Like he doesn't even, it feels, what you're describing is absolutely so throughout times as watching basketball, I am used to bodies being able to behave a certain way,

and the only ones like, you know, George Murissan or Boban, the ones who could just stand under the basket and do it are one thing. But if I'm expecting a mid-range jumper and all of a sudden somebody's just Inspector Gadget putting their arm out and dunking, it confuses me. It disorients what I'm used to seeing from the sport. Over under two and a half championships for his career. Oh, I go over there. You've got to go over, right? Well, I'm very worried.

Honestly, what Mike Ryan, that bit that he was doing for a long time about when he's going to be a bust, et cetera, et cetera, because he was just scared he's going to hog all the championships, that team shouldn't be that good. They've got good pieces. But the fact that at the center of it, they can recreate what it, is that the nuggets do with Yokic, but with somebody more athletic where you can't take the ball from him. You can't block his shot. If he gets the ball in the middle of the paint, he can do

whatever he wants with it. It doesn't matter how many giants are around it. That wasn't exactly my Wemby take. My Wemby take was I expect him to get hurt because people that frame do get hurt. And then the guy takes care of his body in phenomenal ways. And now that he's healthy, the other part of the take was the game's unfair to somebody that size. And he has the, this advantage. The game is a little unfair, but what you could always count on in the history of the game was somebody not having the intangibles. He works hard. He keeps his body in tip-top shape. He remains pliable. He has this killer instinct. He's incredibly likable too. So yeah, he's going to be running this league, provided he keeps taking care of his body this way.

When Mike said this guy's going to get hurt all the time, I think the next week, right around that time was when they had the video of him doing yoga and like putting his head between his legs and like seeing the back like seeing his back from underneath. No, this dude is, look, I hesitate to put the line that high. Two and a half championships is a lot. You're seeing what the league looks like now, how hard it is to keep good teams together. I think he's going to win this year? No.

No? No? That one I could. I took him at plus 600 after what I saw last night. You could count on guys like. You took the spurs to win. Yeah, I took them. They were at plus 600 last I checked, but I think typically when you see people this gifted, sometimes they take their own gifts for granted, and that is not the case with Wembe.

He wants to get better. He had a whole postgame speech because two games ago, they clinched a playoff spot for the first time in six years, and he did this whole spiel post game where it's like, I don't want to celebrate tonight because I'm scared of being complacent. And yeah, like, he's everything that you want, man. He's going to have, if he is healthy, what Rachel Nichols was telling us yesterday, a top 10 career ever. I think it's, Amin doesn't want to get carried away with championships, but I think it's obvious when I tell you, I don't want to dismiss the Spurs. Castle and Harper are top five picks. Aaron Fox is an All-Star, but that would just be another team if at the literal center of it, they didn't have a guy who makes basketball unfair.

Like, what is happening out there can't really be competed with if you're going to have that size, that athleticism, and handle the ball that way, have range and be an athlete that looks like all the other athletes at a height that athletes aren't allowed to be that size and be that kind of athletic. How many teams, so based on what you just said, because I think you're right, like I think if Wembenyama was not on this Spurs team, like it's a bad team, how many teams? I don't think it's bad. I just think it's another team. They're the heat. I don't think it's bad. No, they were 14 and 3 when he was hurt. Like, they're good. They are good for real. So how many teams in the league do you think you just put Wembenyama on and they would be really good?

All of them. Really good. Like, what's really good to you? Spurs are. What the Spurs are? See, playoff team isn't really good for me. I want to make this correction just real quick because we're going to have some conversation here about BAM not wanting to be in the playing game. and the playing game just for the record, okay?

They can distort this all they want. They can make money in all the places that they want. That is a total fraudulence, okay? The playoffs were already... What's a fraudulence? The idea that making the playoffs is a success when half the teams make the playoffs and now you've extended it.

Like, it was fraudulent before. When it's 16 teams and sometimes you've got a sub-500 team in because of a week conference or whatever, it's fraudulent to have half of your teams in the playoffs, but the playing game allows it to be more than and worse than ever, I mean, you got 10 teams not trying. So basically, 20 teams, here you go. You're a playoff team because 10 of them aren't trying.

I would say that you are not only a prisoner of the moment. You are Al Capone and Alcatraz of the moment. Typically, what we've seen in this playing era is teams 11 and sometimes even 12 are still actively trying to get into that playing because the playing gives you an opportunity to extend your season as we saw at Miami a few years ago. So typically what we've had is more engagement in this part of the calendar. This year is an anomaly because of several things, not the least of which we have an incredible draft class.

And so there's a bunch of teams that are like, I don't really care as much of having a chance to extend my season if I have a chance to get one of these generational talents. Well, to Dan's point, if you're a playing team, you should be embarrassed to call yourself a playoff team. You're not. You're in a tournament to make the playoffs. It's a false brag to say that you're a playoff team if you finish 11th where the heat sit right now. I mean, it might be an anomaly and they might get it fixed. But this year, 10 teams aren't trying. That's this year.

Okay, but this year, if 10 teams aren't trying, that's how the heat have as good a record as they have. The heat, look, Brian Scalabrini is dismissing the heat as a playoff team. He's laughing at them. He is saying, basically, did you see how they looked against Cleveland in the playoffs last? year when they got destroyed in a way that no team had ever been destroyed. Before I go to that sound, I want to check in with Roy, who was very eager to get in here. With Victor Weniamma, it's the size, but it's also the skill. The other night he hits a buzzer-beater that if you look at the way he set up the jumper

in the mid-range, it looked like Kobe, except he's seven-foot-five. Last night, there was a play in the lane where he's sprinting down. they're trying to create a break. There's a throw that is somehow over his head because how can you sell something over his head. But he catches the ball with one hand, spins, and as he's spinning, kicks the ball out to the corner. With a level of athleticism and grace in his footwork

that you don't see from guys who are six foot four. The fact that he's able to do it at 7.5, he is a truly unstoppable entity on the floor. He just turned 22. He's so good that I almost think it's astounding that in his third season, he hasn't won an MVP yet. And he's not favored this year. I think he's second or third in the odds. But that's how good he is.

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when the game gets good, and everybody, altogether, in unison, knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely, Mike. Yeah, you've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo. Oh, delicious.

It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Quervo, man, it's at high five, a random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before.

That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it, Quervo. Don Lebertard. What is the war? worst part of the life, Stugats. The worst part of the life of what?

This is the Dan Leibatar show with the Stugat. He said himself that he should be the MVP. Here's that sound. I think right now it is still reasonable that there is a debate. But as I said, I want to make sure, my goal is to make sure that there's no debate anymore at the end of the season. Three arguments. My first one would be that defense is 50% of the game and that it is undervalued so far in the MVP race

because I believe I'm the most impactful player defensively in the league. Second argument would be that we almost swept OKC in the season and we dominated them three times with their real team than four times more rotation theories. And my third argument would be that offense impact is not just points. God, I love the honesty of that answer. I love that he is just laying out the argument for him the way a columnist would lay out. A hometown columnist would lay out the argument for him.

I want to enjoy this before I ruin it because I think he's going I think he's going to ruin it I think he's going to ruin the sport he's going to keep getting better that's not stoppable and it's not fair that's a great take down oh no a really great player

that ends up being put up as the foil to all the other teams how bad for the league Jeremy I'm telling you Roy thank you Jeremy I'm telling you what's happening Nobody loves Goliath and just historically, okay, maybe this guy will change the paradigm. But the fact that a player before was unfair, whether it's Michael Jordan, LeBron, James, Kobe Bryant,

at least he was the size of the other guys. Like when it's what you're talking about, that your brain short circuits because he's doing something in the middle of the key, in the middle of the paint where you're like, wait a minute, that's not something human beings can do. You don't just reach out and dunk it like that. Enjoy this time, I would say, where this is a novelty. It's honestly got a little, like, circus side show bit to it because we'd never seen anybody look and play this kind of style. But in two years' time, first takes could be talking about how you need to alter the NBA, because this is unfair. The thing about Shaq was like this, and his kryptonite was the free throw.

Shack had some of this were like... And laziness, like he took his gifts for granted to a degree. I know he won several championships, but he never really fully maxed out. He won several championships after he got embarrassed sort of the first 10 years of his life because everyone knew he should be better. But when Greg sets the over under on Wemby at two and a half, I'm like, no, you got to think about this the way you think about Shaq, if he is healthy. Because the last time I felt like this is Janus. I was going to say, we did this with Janus. Yeah, but we did this with Janus, but this is seven inches taller than Janus. And fewer holes in his game.

Yannis, still to this day, has very obvious kind of flaws that make him mortal, right? Like we're talking about Superman. Oh, yeah, this is his kryptonite. This dude, I'm telling you, he may not be perfect, but he's not that far off. And that's the scary part. It's like, what's the thing that we're going to throw at him that's going to be his kryptonite? I just saw it flashed on the screen, the odds for MVP. And Luca, like Greg said, Lucas plus 200.

He's second shortest odds. And Wemba Nyama's plus 1100. And also Shea Gilgis Alexander is... He's a favorite. Updated odds from DK's sports books. He's plus 2,200. Wembenyama is. Shea is minus 1,000.

Luca plus a thousand. Yeah, yeah, he's a huge long shot. I'm sorry. So even worse. But what I'm trying to say is, there are people out there who would vote Dunchich over Wembenyama for MVP these years? That has to be based on the games played, right? Of course.

Welcome to the 65 game rule, ladies and gentlemen. Where, it doesn't matter who is the best player. We're going to do accounting of, oh, no, he's only played 62 games. Sorry, you're out of this. This is why this rule is dumb. There's not a single person with eyes who would watch those two players say, and that guys had a better season. But because of a technicality that does not address the problem that they wanted to address in the beginning,

we're in this ridiculous situation where I must reiterate, 10 of the 15 all NBA selections last year are on the cusp of being ineligible. Even these odds that you're talking about right here. Shea has played 59 games. They've got about 10 games left. So he's got to play pretty much six out of the next 10 games. Luca Donchitz has played 59. Same thing for him.

Anthony Edwards. Like all of these guys, they've got to play in order to play this thing out. And so when you talk about Anthony Edwards being injured, Kate Cunningham with a collapsed lung, like there's going to be a pressure on guys to play basketball games when they really should not be playing just to be eligible. I hope they all get hurt in like Derek Whitewin's MVP is here. Roy?

Yes. So stupid. There's a way to save this. Tell everyone, hey, Wembe's not going to play tonight, but we're going to start him. He's going to go for the tip.

He's going to tip it back? You think that saves something? Has he lost? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just hear me out. Has he lost the tip this year? I will hear him out, but has he lost a tip this year?

Because watching last night's tip was funny. Oh, watching Bam look like he's six foot two is startling. He can't have lost. There's no way he's lost a tip this year. I'll look up the stat after this. but when it comes to being able to save these guys from all MBA and from the MVP race, you just say, hey, hey, everybody. I know we're worried about the gambling odds.

I know we're worried about all of the information. We're going to mark this guy. He is going to play. He is going to be available. Find us if you would like, if you're an organization. If Wembe wants to win the MVP and you're the San Antonio Spurs and you need him to sit out four of the final 10 games. but he needs to play eight of them.

You say, hey, hey, he's only going to play one minute. We're telling everybody he's going to play for five seconds. Why? So he can get the game played. He can come out. It doesn't influence the gambling odds. Find the organization. Who cares?

This rule is ridiculous and you need to show them how ridiculous it is. Okay, this is a problem. The rule also says you have to play a certain number of minutes. So you can't. Really? Yeah. So you can't have just checked in. I was here and then leave.

That doesn't count. So like, why was Mikel Bridges? is able to do his thing, but that was just to keep a street going. That has nothing to do with... But that's still the game played, no? It is funny to watch you rage indignantly without realizing that your hair is flapping around, that your wig is flapping around, and that you look even more ridiculous with your indignance. I want to put up on the screen, I know it goes probably without saying that Wembe is very

giant, but just put up on the screen the size of his hands, please, so that you guys can see what... You realize he's grabbing the bass. basketball like it's a racquetball. So Dan, when Roy is describing that play last night, right, of him spinning and then throwing a pass, the part we're all like fixated on, he's so tall and long and all the, the part that people overlook is that pompal moose, right? Like it's a grapefruit in his hands, so he gets to palm it and do all of this crazy stuff.

It's like Kauai, people don't understand how big Kauai's hands in, hands are, abnormally large for his size. Michael Jordan. Again, all the grace and. elegance and athleticism. A big part of his thing was these massive myths. That's why when he met me and he put his hand on my shoulder, it was literally like just a shadow came down and I was like, oh, snap, that's a massive paw.

Believe it or not, Wembe is 44 and 13 on tip-offs this season. Wow. Plenty of Black Louise. Do you notice Amin said when Michael Jordan met me, not when I met Michael Jordan? Well, that's why he got the look at me, Leroy. Do you know why? I say it like that? Because I didn't introduce myself to him.

He introduced himself to me. Wow. I was walking away. And that meant went, and I was like, and I looked up and I was like, oh my God. And then he's like,

and then he said, and you're really going to want to warm up the sound for this one. Hey, man, I really enjoy your work. Look at me, Hero. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Are you stunned that Wembe has lost

13 tips this year? You saw that last night against BAM, okay? The idea that a human being is undersized anywhere, a human being the size of BAM, okay? If you've ever stood next to BAM, any of you, like, he's bigger than any human being you've never been next to who's not an NBA player. You will never walk into any place where you're standing next to someone the size of BAM. To have BAM look like a toddler on the tip against Wemby, and for Wemby's armpit to be in BAM's face is just, funny. Dan, I remember

the first time I saw Yao Ming not on a basketball court, but in a social setting and to see other NBA players marvel at how big this guy was. That's the closest thing I can think of. I remember Shaq playing against Yao Ming the first time

and there's a picture of him kind of like looking up just to kind of confirm how much taller this guy is than me. There's something about putting, like you said, giants in awe of how big you are. you see late in the Gator game this past Friday night in the first round of the playoffs. The Gators were up by a thousand points against Prairie View.

And so the Gators put their freshman in, Olivier Rieu, who is 7 foot 9. And there's this shot of him standing. He's the tallest player ever, correct? In college basketball? He's not any good. He's like a sophomore now. He's a freshman. Is he a true freshman?

Oh, maybe not. He was a guy that the football team put on field. goal blocks. So there's this shot of him stands in there. He just checked into the game and standing right next to him is a kid from Prairie View who happens to be 6'8 and he's looking up at him and he's like he's trying to chat him up. And like the kid who's 7 foot 9 obviously doesn't really care to talk about how big he is, he gets in his whole life.

And the kid from Prairie View at one point you could see him out of the Sips. He goes, you're real big man. Dwayne Chintas who was the previous or the OG of Gator Giants. used to get into elevators and whenever someone would say, how's the weather up there? He was so tired of it. He would spit and say it's raining. I thought that was a wilt story. It was also a Dwayne Chintz. Maybe they pass it along in the newsletter.

Maybe Dwayne Chintzis, yeah, borrowed it. Zaz mentioned the Prairie View coach. They were down 18 in the first half, and this is how they all felt facing the 7-foot-9 guy off the bench. They need some help from the Lord. They're very good. Roy, what do you got? I was sitting in the presser yesterday as Victor Wembe Niyama walks in to make his case for MVP, and I'm sitting there, and I turned to look as he walks in, and I just kept, it took like four seconds to keep looking up.

His head almost touches the ceiling. And for anyone who has been in that building, like in that press conference room, that is not a short ceiling. That is a pretty high ceiling. It's built for giants. It's built for giants. And he still almost didn't fit. It's crazy. And speaking of tall guys in elevators, Taco Fall,

used to have to sit down and back into the elevator. You know, if Bam Otabio is playing for another team, I would circulate the I'm sick of being in the play-in quote as we got our next wail. 10-day Tony. What's up, Mike? It's NBA playoff time. Finally. Yeah, yeah.

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Now he's just, just playing. Nickelback in the locker room and... Stugats. They'll play day and show threes as they chase the nets for the six seed. These five words in his head. Scream, all we. winning games yet. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.

Let's go ahead and play this sound because BAM is bothered by this and I just don't know what you do. They are topped out. This is as well as these human beings can play. I know it's an imperfect science, the draft, okay? Did you guys see this last night? Because Hero and BAM have absolutely been maximized. by this organization as mid first round picks.

But did you guys not notice with, I mean, obviously Wembe, but Castle as well, like you can see top five talents, what they look like. They look different than the other players. It's the reason when you're going through the meat market that is, let's scan the world for the greatest athletes we can find to be better than all these other great athletes. Oh, this guy's top five means something

that this guy's top 13 doesn't. Like, it, there's, I just, I mean, you can explain this as someone who's worked in a front office. The difference between 5 and 13 when you're scanning the world and you're finding somebody who's the fifth best prospect. Yeah, no, absolutely. Obviously, the idea that they got all-stars in that zone is testament to scouting, like being able to talent, recognize, but also development. Right. We all know what Bam was when he came in the league. it wasn't this.

He was... Poor man's Tristan Thompson, according to George Sedano. Did he say that for him? No, George Sedano relayed that that's how people were talking about him when he came into the league. He can be at the high end of poor man's Tristan Thompson. Yeah, he shared scout chatter when he drafted him. I like it being George's opinion. My point, though, I mean, is it's lost that whatever it is that the league,

generally applies to the heat and say they know how to develop players. So does San Antonio. And they've got three top five picks. Miami's never had that. They've got three top five picks and traded for an All-Star and traded for Sacramento's last good player. Traded for an All-Star that the Miami Heat were in on, too.

Have they turned Bam into a rich man's Tristan Thompson? Yes. Nice. Although Tristan Thompson is a rich man's Tristan. He's a rich man's Draymond Green. LeBron got him a lot of money. Let's play the sound here of Ban. saying he's fed up.

I mean, he's seen what I've been doing the last whatever amount of games and, you know, I don't want to be in the plan. So some of that is, yeah, he's got to protect me for myself, but also like, I don't want to be playing. So every game I'm going to try to go out there and do the best I can to, you know,

carry this team and force our way out of that. I want to get some sound here from Dwayne Wade, if you guys remember, way back. When Mike says this sounds like disgruntled superstar, the things that he's saying. His body language and his frustration remind me of what Dwayne said when he got eliminated in the playoffs as a solo act and said, I'm not doing it this way anymore. I'm not playing this way anymore. And then they went and formed the big three. He's like, I'm not going out.

Bam's got to be tired of this. There's too much effort being poured in too bad. Bam, from Bam, everything's built around him, he's the untradable one. I know he gets a bad rap from people who want him to be better. He's great. He's a really great basketball player. He can be frustrating, you can want him to be better, but Bam out of bio would be valuable to any basketball team in the league, not just the way that he plays, not just his attitude,

the entire package, anybody in the league would want that guy on their team. only because what the standard has been here for 15 years is he now the scapegoat for you're not good enough. He's not. But Bam's okay if he yells out at the organization. Hey, I need more help. Like, this is a star. This is a star basketball player, not just an all-star.

One of the 15 best in the, one of the 20, I mean, where would you put him? Like, want him to be better all you want. Bam, when Wembe says, hey, it's both sides of the game. It's not just offense. It's this guy's go bearish in his ability to be a defensive player of the year and guards all five. He's better than everybody, but maybe Wemby. And he's better than everybody in the league is a defensive. You like the Topsons?

Who's your defensive player of the year? No, I mean, well, it would be Wembe if it weren't for this stupid rule. But, yeah, no. I mean, bam, absolutely. There's a reason, like, as you guys malign them, they're two and a half back from the five seat. And that's because he's that good. He's good enough to raise everybody. First of all, he makes that team.

We're talking about yesterday. Oh, they're only an average defensive team against elite elite teams. Five straight games, they've given up like 130 points, I mean. They're terrible against his team. I don't know what team was going to shut down that last night. You can say that all you want. But they don't average 136 points, the Spurs.

The Spurs are really good. I know. But the Spurs are really good offensively, and I would say there are very few players in the league. At the end, they lost the Houston game. Hey, bam, go guard the guys. over there. We've called the most unguarded

guy in the league. Who's fifth in the league in scoring history. Fifth in the league just past Michael Jordan and he can. Like it's an absurd request to make of your center

go guard go guard Kevin Durant on the perimeter and he did it and he does it. But he's frustrated and worse, worse because of how this guy

cares and you could speak to this, Cody. Worse, everyone's blaming him for not being good enough. And I'm like, How good do you want him to be? He's overachieved, and he's a mid-first-round pick, but he's over-achieved into every single way that over-achievement can be over-achieved.

He's a great player, and I don't think anybody doesn't think he's a great player. And when you score 83 points, by the way, it enables you to take a whole different level of leadership and commentary like that. And look, he's frustrated, but who wouldn't be? This is their fourth straight year in the play-in, which is barely the playoffs, and he should be frustrated. They've got to build around him. It's the reason Jimmy Butler left, essentially, right?

I mean, they didn't build around him enough. The problem with building around him is that you need to get someone better than him. It's not just building around him. The problem is that he could be the 16th best player in the world and still be a number two. If he's the second best player on the team, then they have something. And they haven't been able to do that. Yeah, like, I'm watching last night, for example, you said, oh, the Spurs scored 136 points. Jeremy, I mean, what's your name? Roy.

I'm Roy. Okay. How many of those baskets were because heat offense failed? And then they just got an easy basket on the end. Like it wasn't a whole lot of, oh, my God, we can't guard these guys, although obviously Wen Binyam was doing some crazy things. But a lot of it was just the heat offense isn't good. I've been saying it from the beginning of the year.

You guys are like, oh, number one. I'm like, this isn't a good offense, guys. This isn't a good offense. They struggle to generate points. And I think that part of that is, Dan, when you talk about people, frustrations with BAM is because if you're our best player, why can't we count on you offensively like that every night? Just the part that frustrates me when we say things like, yeah, they're only two and a half

games back of number five in the Eastern Conference. They just won seven in a row. We were feeling really good about it. We're literally at the home stretch of the regular season. And they lost five in a row. Like five losses in a row is really bad if you're a good team. and two of those five losses are by 25 last night and by 30. About to lose.

About to lose two more due to Cleveland. They're getting smoked in some of these games. The Charlotte game was without BAM, which we've just told you. Well, no, it's not whatever. He's by far their best player. They lost by 30 to a team that's played well. I'm looking at a team that's won seven of its last 12. Has a couple of good wins in there.

They beat Detroit. They beat Houston on the road. They beat Charlotte on the road. No, but in all seriousness, when it comes to BAM and the frustration that you're talking about, That quote came because in the second quarter, he and Spoe were going at it on the bench when Spow took him out because he was trying to match his minutes with Wembe's and he was bringing in Kelle Ware to go up against Luke Cornyette. And so he was asked specifically about that sort of going head to head. When Spoh was asked about it, he's like, I love it. You know, we go at each other.

We love each other. When it was Bam, what he was saying is, yeah, I'm frustrated. I don't want to come out of the game. He's trying to save me from myself. because I can't play every single minute, but I don't want to be in the effing playing anymore. That's why I want to play. Let's hear from Eric's bolster here before I transition to bigger winners in town.

The University of my football team had its pro day, and I want to talk about that. I love that about Bam. He and I are barking at each other. I mean, that's why I love him. You know, I think he loves me. But even if he doesn't, I have to do what's best for the team. I don't want to just play him 24 straight minutes every half.

You know, if I'm forced to do it like in Houston, I'll do it, you know, but this is the first half. I didn't think that was necessary. You know, so some of the minutes, yeah, you know, the majority of the minutes, there would be a matchup, but it didn't have to be all the minutes, you know, for us. The idea that these guys like the conflict and that the conflict doesn't mean anything, That I, yeah, what an interesting thing to live in a world where the coach can say and actually know, yeah, I love him and he loves me. It's an unusual thing. I don't think I can do that right now with the dolphins.

I can probably, I don't know if I could, do you think I could do it with Paul Maurice? Where the relationship is actual love. Yeah, he's my coach, but he's my teacher. And he saw what I was when I got here. and I've grown it aside for nine years. Let's explore for a second how many relationships in our market have what you would describe as actual love. Because I do believe those two people actually love each other. They do. You'd have to go to college outside of that to find that.

Paul Maurice had a great quote the other day, as he often does. We're not at the end of our story. We're in the middle of it. And this season has been such a disappointment, but he's got the credibility. When he says that stuff, you trust him. Also, I think Paul Maurice and his Panthers had that lovey-dovey vibe when they were winning two championships in a row. Everybody was talking about, you know, the narrative was how great it is to go to work. Well, Zazz fired him.

Call them the murder. Okay, but I also apologize to his face and then he told me that he loves me as well. That's a big deal. Being able to admit that you're wrong. I'm proud of you. Yeah, so we're good. That's my dog, Paul Maurice. I thought being in love means never having to say, so you're sorry.

That's a good point. How do you feel about how you said to say, there. Okay, I thought no one was going to notice. Mike, yesterday, at Pro Day, we learned basically that the University of Miami is going to have four first round picks in the draft, two of them

edge rushers. There were a lot of scouts there. Over a hundred. We haven't had that many scouts from the NFL since the University of Miami was winning Natty's, and Keontay Scott, I think, was the main headliner there. Although Carson Beck continues a very strong drafts. Because he was ran so fast. For those who don't know, Keante Scott clocked a 433. 433 official. There were unofficial reports that it was sub-4-3, which is insane.

But Keonté Scott is one of those guys that you wish was around here a little bit longer because he was an absolute dog. It jumped off the screen. You could see it and feel it live. His impact was so immense for this team. I didn't hear anybody talking first-round pick, though, until yesterday. Yeah, he was kind of fringe. I was insistent on it because when they have the ball. This guy's just absolute dynamite. And he plays a position that with the analytics movement in the NFL, like having those guys on the inside, being able to blitz, it's such an immense skill set for defensive coordinators. Keontes Scott, I think, solidified first-round draft

status. Mezzador, probably a first-round draft pick, too. So you got four, which means Mario Cristobal, outside of the national championship win, he got to the final, he's done everything that he said he would do. I mean, 100 scouts at your pro day, four first rounders. This is the start. of a talent-rich run for the University of Miami. It can be said without any equivocation, okay? If you buy your way into the top of the game and then do what Miami did last season and then 100 scouts are at your facility

and you've got four first-round picks, it can be said that that $90 million, right now, if we were to stop right now, has been paid for. It has been a success. There is no disputing that Mario Cristobal has earned all of that money and he will make it back for the University of Miami in spades. The question of, is UM back?

No, that's not a question anymore. When the scouts are at this pro day, and then you become the next place that can be the pipeline, the way his Alabama team was when he was the recruiter for Nick Saban, you got a pipeline to this. You've dropped this in the middle of Miami. Look, man, it's been a long time since I've seen that many scouts where you see the dolphins wander over and they're like,

we've got to see everything that's over here, everything. Because that team might have in the weeds something in the full. fourth round, and that's, the economy of football hasn't mattered like that at the University of Miami in a long time. Like, it wasn't that under Mark Rick when they got to number one. When you're the place where the first round picks go, that changes everything in terms of how easy recruiting becomes. And the Miami Dolphins don't have a great history of drafting Hurricanes players, but they're going to have a very interesting choice this year, picking 11th, because I think just about all of these four players we're talking about might be on the board

at 11. One or maybe two will be gone, but they will have their choice of a top four cane at 11. This is an exciting thing, and if you saw, Dion Sanders is now finding his players in Colorado. I'd argue that paid for itself too, but the way that this has all happened, Colorado is a million miles away from this. All the scouts are at our facility. They come to us and one of the guys run something that people are saying might be under 4-3. It was worth it from attention currency, but Mario Cristobal is worth it for both attention currency and currency currency because with the revenue sharing built the way that it is, thankfully, FSU and Clemson made the sink that they did.

Miami made a ton of money off of last year's football run. And, yeah, the arrow is pointing up. Today is the first day of spring football. It means Dary Mensa takes the field for the first time in orange and green. Exciting times, dude. I'm pumped. You know about that currency currency? It's a T-shirt. Packages by Expedia.

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