The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Snaggletoe

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

Billy has returned from Jury Duty, Tony had a horribly bad beat, and Jer Bear is...dressed as a bear. Billy gives us his takeaways after listening to yesterday's show, including a note about Stugotz's fake laugh. Then, Greg Cote is here and tells us about his new book with Ron Magill and the sweet love his words made with Ron's hands on experience. Plus, Greg's great toe is feeling particularly great these days. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Billy is back from Jerry Doody. We're excited about that. Greg Cody is in today. No back in my day. Why? What's the reason, Greg? He has to check his notes.

It's, it's, it's a, there's a, a by-law that's in my contract. Okay. That I only do back in my days when Dan is in. Wow. Nothing personal to God. No, no, no. I should be offended, but I'm not. Right.

Right. Isn't there some sort, yeah, there's some sort of acronym for it. It's the O-W-D-I-I only when Dan is in. Ah. I want to him too early, Chris. My man. I'm not an American. I should know my teammates. I'm not an organizer.

I'm sorry. Uh, Jare Barra is here. Uh, we have Lucy. She is here. She's concerned for all of us. We'll get to that in just a second. Uh, but we have to start in the most obvious of places. A bad beat.

Tony last night. Well, Tony, I will allow you to take us through this because I believe the perfect place to start with Billy co-hosting with me and Greg today is with your misery and your pain. So let's start right there, Tony. What happened to you last night in that football game? All right, so I've got a little action on Josh Palmer,

first time, Tuddy. Oh, no. Yeah. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I've got first touchdown, Josh Palmer, and I also double down because I needed him in fantasy to get 14 points, right? So if you're doing the math in a PPR,

like I need seven for 70, I need him to have like four, first 60 in a touchdown, like I need something to happen here. And then I'll put a middle of the road game. Middle of the road game, right? Middle of the road game. Got it. right middle the road game got it first drive They throw a little screen pass out to him. He breaks through the first defender Sprints down 30 yards to the touchdown. I'm celebrating my wife doesn't know what's happening. I'm like, let's go Nice all the sudden I

See a yellow flag on the field sure guy hits his hits his head up top, illegal man downfield, took the touchdown back. It was plus I think like 18 or 1500. It was plus 1800. It was brutal. It was a brutal, brutal beat. Not only that, so again, I need Josh Palmer to have a certain amount of yards and catches to beat somebody in my league. Every pass that's thrown to Josh Palmer

has a flag attached to it. They were taking back, he might have had eight catches, 10 catches last night, five of them were taken back because of flags. It was insane. The refs were so terrible last night. I don't know what the NFL is gonna do on a primetime game where you have your ref

almost getting trampled by the QB taking a snap. Everything was terrible the entire game. is that the most random referee signal to like wise his hand on his head for too many men. I have no idea he should have to pat his head and rub his head. Yeah. Can you do that? I mean if he can't then it's not a penalty. And the thing is when he goes like this right too many men on the field or whatever it was I'm like oh my god Dallas had 12 defenders. Let's go!

Because I was watching on mute, of course, because my wife was doing something, so I couldn't have the sound on. And then it was, you know, illegal man down field. So you celebrated and then you saw the yellow flag. And did you try to convince yourself it was a flag on the other team? Yes, I was like, oh, it's 12 men.

Oh, it's 12 men. That's what you did, right? I'm passionate about you. You were in denial. Yes. Catching out like 400 bucks here. Is he it's 12 men. That's what you did, right? I'm passionate about you. You were in denial. Yes. I'm catching up like 400 bucks here. Is he leading too many men? That's it.

I'm so sorry. Dude, it was such a bad beat. And I texted Taylor, and said, because me and him text on bad beats. And I was just like, I don't know what to do right now. I've lost my mind. And I texted him like in the third quarter, because I couldn't, I just had to put everything

to turn the game off for a little bit. I was like, I can't do this. Right. I understand. I'm sorry, Tony. game off for a little bit, I was like, I can't do this. Right, I understand. I'm sorry, Tony. Taylor just smirking in the other room. Hahaha. Everyone loves a bad beat.

I mean, when it's not there. You're right. Someone else is bad beat, right? Correct. Billy, back from Jerry Dooty, how to go? It went. Yeah. Yeah.

You're here today, that's a good thing. I am here, yeah. I wasn't selected. I was there until like 415 yesterday, and then I was released. We were debating yesterday, whether you're here today. That's a good thing. I am here. Yeah, I wasn't selected. I was there to like 415 yesterday And then I was released we were debating yesterday Whether you're the type to want to be selected or want to get out of it as fast as possible I heard yesterday's show I decided to do research and take notes on yesterday's show So I would feel like I was all caught up which I never do if I'm not in I don't listen to the show

We're all offense to any of them But I just like I can't like my number one note, we put out a lot of episodes. It took me a long time to catch up. I'm like halfway through hour one, and I was like, and God bless our fans for listening to all this stuff we put out, but how long are their drives? Because my drive was like 45 minutes, I'm like, okay, I got this, and then I went, today I listened,

I was listening at 1.2, and then I'm like, I gotta pick up the pace, and it was one and a half, then I raised it to 1.8, and then I went, this morning when I was in, I was at two, and then I was like I got to pick up the pace and it was one and a half then I raised it to 1.8 And then I went this morning when I was in I was at two and then I was like I need to try to catch up when I was in the elevator So I put it at 2.2 and I was like I think I got the gist of this I don't think I need to listen faster than 2.2 We could do an episode if we want save the listeners some some stress and we just all talk at 1.8 You guys want to try that maybe I think if we really do it,

if it'll just really speed up the process for everything, everybody will get to listen to the podcast at the speed normally, and then no one will have to speed it up and it can just be normal speed for everyone. And we'll all talk like this, Jess, your thoughts? I think it's a really good idea. Yeah.

Greg, you got excited at 1.8. My dad talks at 0.8. Yes, so I talk very slow. I listen to myself at 1.8. What's fun to do just as an experiment? Find somebody who naturally talks really fast like Ann Ann Verk and listen to him at 1.8. Don't do that.

It's funny. It's hilarious. You've done it? Yeah, yeah. And you just laugh. It's funny. I was worried about Samson yesterday when he was on listening to him a lot faster.

Why? Do you want to go through all your show notes right now? Well, if I'm going to be honest with you, I left one of my pages of show notes at home. So that one I was trying to do for memory, but I had a lot faster. Why? Do you want to go through all your show notes right now? Well, if I'm going to be honest with you, I left one of my pages of show notes at home. So that one I was trying to do for memory, but I had a second page. Yeah, I was doing it on, I shouldn't be doing this, but I was doing it on like a notepad

while I was stuck in traffic yesterday driving home from jury duty. Right. And then I left that on my counter at home. Okay. But I remembered some of them, so then I just put it in the doc. And I have a second note that I was doing in my notebook today while I was driving, which is also dangerous.

So do you want to do this? Or I can give you one? Okay, lots of strong you want to take yesterday that don't exist on most other days Especially from Chris Cody. That's right. Balance this chair. I'm very Balance bringing balance because Mike is a homer in this chair usually so I'm bringing you were crappin He's a home over at UM. Do you know how balance works? No, I understand how balance which Homer. Yeah, I was but I think what Bill He is saying is a lot of cane steaks that would not have been even if Mike were here. Where's that one, Mike's here, who I was wondering.

You were very critical. They lost two in a row. Oh, man, what are you on for me? Hmm. Hmm. I also felt, I thought Jeremy did a great job with David Samson yesterday. He did?

Yeah, I also caught in a little nugget that Jeremy dropped in when he said, you're talking about how you were before you were on this show and what you thought of yourselves before you're on the show. And Jeremy just casually dropped in, I used in a little nugget that Jeremy dropped in when he said, you're talking about how you were before you were on this show and what you thought of yourselves before you on this show. And Jeremy just casually dropped in, I used to be happy. Yeah, it's true. I used to be. Yeah.

It's changed a little. How are you feeling today? You look great. Jeremy's dress is a bear for those of you watching or listening a lot. And, Jeremy, I feel great. I'm comfortable. I can see your sadness through the cost.

You really get it. What kind of bear are you? A Gerber. No, no, I don't look like the, you know, like you're not a Gerber. You're not a Gerber. A brown, a great question, great. I don't know.

A sad bear. A sad brown Gerber of some kind. This is, it's really hot. It's warm. I can't breathe properly in this. It's not fun. Three more hours. It's really hot. It's warm. I can't breathe properly in this. It's not fun. Three more hours. It's a punishment.

Do you think of hikers on a trail saw you in the wild that they would be frightened? I mean, yeah. I, not for the reasons that they'd be scared to see another bear, but if I was on a hike and I saw some random person in this costume walking toward me. I'd be concerned about my safety sort of similarly to seeing a bear. Cause who would do this? Can you see in there? I don't know. I can see he can hear you.

You can't. You think a hunter would shoot him? No. How would another bear react? That's a good question. That's a good question. Let's ask Ron that later. A bear would mall him.

What do you mean? I tried to hump. Have you ever seen the bear's reaction when it. That's a good question. Let's ask Ron that later. A bear would mall him. What do you mean? It tried to hump him. I was very worried. Have you ever seen the bear's reaction when it sees itself in a mirror? I'm telling you, that's a great video. Have you? Yeah, haven't seen a mirror.

You miss out on a lot of animal videos. There's a video of a bear with a mirror. There's just a mirror in the middle of the woods and this bear is just like walking around and he stumbles upon the mirror and he gets so scared because he doesn't expect to see another bear out of nowhere. And he looks behind it. He looks behind the mirror and he gets so scared because he doesn't expect to see another bear out of nowhere.

And he looks behind the mirror to see where the bear is. Let's try to find that and pull that up. Yeah, Lewis, try to find that. I want to see that. Try to find the bear looking at himself in the mirror. I'll get it, I'm telling you. Faleca. I had a note also.

I had a note that I was wondering if you guys would be in on. I know I'm glad that you were laughing because that's kind of my note and I want to figure this out. So a lot of the criticism that we will get on some of the shows that I do with you on stupidity and covers for whatever is the fake laugh that you do and it kind of like drags out or whatever, right? And I maintained to this day that stupidity was ruined and you know the numbers were the numbers. I maintained that it was ruined because the show decided to do a laugh track of all of your fake laughs and made it like 40 minutes long.

Like, that show is only two got laughing whatever, and then people just stop listening. And they have to get it. So my strategy is what you're saying. I'm implying that. I've been feeling that for three years, but anyway, go ahead. Maybe Tony said in my years, maybe it was Dan.

Whoa! The problem we was. Well, the point person doesn't matter. Yeah, but people haven't been able to shake that whole fake laugh accusation, and then you'll do the fake laugh lots of them. People are like, I can't listen, it's just fake laugh. So I'm trying to figure out in these two weeks

that you're doing this. I don't know if I just revealed this two weeks, but in the two weeks that you're doing this, it's okay, we said it yesterday. Okay, I don't know. No, no, it's not known. Dan's out in LA, by the way, he's got an exclusive sit down with George Sedano,

and I have big news for you. We have the sit down before the sit down. We get Sedano tomorrow. How about that? Anyway, go ahead Bill. You think that no one catches on to what you're doing and I wonder what the ramifications of you booking every single one of their guests the day before them is going to be because we've caught on to this little deal.

We got to get Charlotte on a meet on. I feel like. Oh yeah, well I haven't Charlotte on a meet on yet. Yeah, let's do it today. I found this video. If you guys want to check it out here. Well, the bill is not done yet. Well, no, so I'm trying to figure out if we could do something

to kind of control your fake laughter a little bit. So that I like the laugh. I mean, we're in here, we're having a good time. I mean, it's not, you know, it's not fake when I'm laughing at you. It's not fake. No, it is. I know that it is. It's fine.

It's okay. It doesn't hurt my feelings. I just, I'm trying to think of the listener and how we kind of get it under control so that they don't have that criticism against this saying it's just a bunch of fake laughter. So I don't know if we like fine you maybe sometimes if we think like I was a little bit too much, you know, trailing there. That's not that funny, something like that. Sure, he's not funny, you're right. But if he was on, you'd be like a buckle of chockets.

Was that real? That a boy? Was that real? We can edit out the laughs, I mean. No, that's the thing is that that's what I was doing for like two seasons of Godless football. I'm like, yeah, no, sorry, listen. Too much.

They thought it was too much when I was editing out the last and like, you're in for it. It's fair. So what are you gonna do? I don't know. You're my producer. I need you. I'm trying to figure out what's going on here.

I don't know. We all have a fake laugh, right? Of course we do. Yeah. My fake laugh. You think Dan's that funny? Yeah, my fake laugh is the only one that actually sounds like a laugh. Like if you put my fake laugh in words, it would actually be, ha ha ha. So if you ever hear me going, that's, that's mostly a fake laugh.

That was mine. My concern here is that if we get rid of Stugots's laugh, it'll be like watching old sitcoms that have laugh tracks and then taking them away. Where there's just these awkward pauses and you're realizing that nothing we say is actually funny. You don't think you need the laugh, Billy, but you need it. You do.

You gotta have it. Yeah. All right, but you still wanna take it away from me. No, I'm just saying, what I'm trying to do is take away any excuses that people have that don't wanna give this show a shot. Right. You're hosting it. I wanna take away all those excuses people have that don't want to give this show a shot within hosting it. I want to take away all those excuses from them

so they give it a fair shot. Okay, yeah. Well, I feel like they are. Okay, thank you. Billy, lazy river. I know, I have fun. I'm lazy river, just go with a river takes you, okay? I know, but the lazy river is good for a lot.

It's what God bless football is. Yeah, well, I know. You want to do something more serious. No, I don't want to, no, trust me. I don't want to do much more serious. I know he does. want to. No, trust me. I don't want to do much more serious. I know he does. You know me. He does it.

He should because he's great. Billy is a great host and I'd like to see him develop into a to a host, which is why he is sitting in here today. It is not falling on me. How important Billy has been to my career. And for me, that's what this should be all about is elevating all the people who have been there for me and Dan for all these years. Billy has been in my year for years.

I would say 90% of the funny shit I say on this show is courtesy of Billy Gill. Please stop. No, it's dying, let's just remember. No, it has Billy. You have helped my career. Therefore, I am trying to help your career by having you become a host.

But the first thing you do is criticize my fake life. Jesus. I was in criticizing as this is constructive criticism. Did Gojo call Notre Dame an Ivy League school yesterday? He did. Am I wrong? Am I wrong in saying it's not an Ivy League school? Did I miss something? He was making, he made an Ivy of the Midwest joke.

Yeah. I think that was it. But he believes it. Yeah. Also, no one says buy in text. Like that is your crazy person if you say buy in text. I'm just saying I like it when someone does. I don't, because it's basically like I'm tired of talking to you.

Occulator. Yeah, you've just talked to them later. Those are all my notes. All right, that's it. Well, I told you, let's talk about the page of our content. And then once I'm listening at one and a half speed, two and a half, it's too fast. Uh-huh. One point A for you, all right? All the time. Really? Oh, all the time. Why? Yeah. And then once I'm listening at one and a half speed, two and a half, it's too fast.

One point eight for you, okay? All the time. Really? All the time. Why? Well, because here's why. I naturally speak very slowly and say a lot of us and stumble and all that stuff.

So when I listen to myself at real speed, I feel like I'm all doped up. Do you know how many us were cutting out of that too? I know. You're getting the edited version. Trust me, I understand that, but when you listen to me at 1.8, I sound younger, I sound like I have vitality.

You could just bring more energy. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You could just bring more energy. That's another option. But I don't. I just don't. I have no natural energy.

All my energy is contrive. It's fake. I have fake energy, but I don't have natural energy. So when, listen to me at 1.8, 2.0 is too much. 1.5 is acceptable, but 1.8 is the go to speed to listen to me on the Greg Cody show. Podcast, which came out yesterday as it does every Monday. Yeah.

Thank you. What was on the show this week? You know what? I don't want to, I'm the last guy on Earth who's going to Bugle his own horn. You're last guy on Earth who's gonna bugle his own horn. You're not. That's true, but bugle his own horn. Oh yeah.

Are you marveling at your own phrase? You're bugling your own horn? We had on Ramagil and Ron and I talked for the first time on air about the new book we have coming on December 5th. Wow. And so that was good. We're both very, very excited about it. It's called The Pride of a Lion.

Nice. It's the first time I've in my life, I've written about anything other than sports, and it was a challenge for me, and I loved every minute of it, and we're excited about it. That's awesome. Pre-Sale?

Yeah, Pre-Sale's underway now. Nice. Yeah, you know, Amazon, wherever you buy books, you can pre-order this one. How many pages is it? It's not a long book. I think it's like a little bit less than 200, like a hundred and 88 pages.

On the Greg Cody show, he shared with the audience the equivalent of how many Greg Cody columns it would be the equivalent of. Well, Ron, for some reason, he did that math like anyone would care. He's like, if you're wondering this book, I kind of care, hold on, I can't hear. I'm 47 of my column.

Is it 47? Wow. Oh, look at this. Beautiful cover. That's our Ron McGill photo. Nice. I have Greg, I have some news for you here. I don't know exactly what goes into this, but I'm on Amazon to pre-order it.

And it just has like a little colored tab that says number one, new release. I actually, the publisher told us yesterday that in a certain category, like I don't know whether it's wildlife or lions, they have all these categories. In a certain category. Maybe we're gonna say to lion, it's number one. No, I think it's like wildlife or,

I don't know the name of the category. Okay. Well, it's a number one new release, so congrats. Congratulations, Greg. We're here. We're here. Do I have to buy a copy or? No, we do. We'll see.

Support the cause. Seems like Ron got top billing. I did notice that too. I didn't want to kind of rub salt in your runes there, but Ron got top billing on this book. You can imagine you did the bulk of the writing show. I did all of the writing. Okay, well then what's going on here?

My book in terms of the writing. My share of the writing. No, it's proper billing because the book would not exist without Ron McGill. So we discussed on the Greg Cody show. What, Chair Bear? Sorry, that needed a cum-nix left. But why in share of the writing? It was great, yes.

This is easy. They're just telling you jokes in your ears the whole time, oh my God. No shit, this is great. We made it, we made the point on the Greg Cody show that Greg did the work with his fingers. They made love in this book. Oh really? Ron did they been?

Ron did the work with his mouth. My dad did the work with his fingers. How about the bugle? Yeah. Who bugle? Who's for? He can just visualize that. Love making experience. I told Christopher on the podcast. The metaphor is not working for me. I hate you. That's when you write a book together, you're making love.

So we ran with it again. I'll say it again, Ron used his mouth. And my dad used his fingers. We got it. And they made love together. Yeah, I'm not buying this. I'm not commenting on it in any way whatsoever. You know what I'm buying?

Is this book, Perfect Stocking Stuff, or December 5th, huh? Not a boy. It's just, wow, imagine that. It's being released just in time for your holiday shopping. Wow, almost like we planned it that way. Jess, why is your face in your hands? She didn't like my analogy. Right.

Well, no one did. Your dad didn't even like it. If you just close your eyes, you can really visualize it in our being made. Right. You really don't want love making, one with the mouth, one with the fingers, just together for a lion. Well, McGill hadn't even even grosser analogy on the podcast

that I'm not even gonna repeat. Really? Yeah. He's kind of a horn dog, right? Yeah, he is. It involved me writing all the words, so therefore that meant I was blanking, and I'm not gonna repeat with the podcast.

Well, if you don't repeat, then no imagination can go wild. Yeah. People have to listen to the podcast. Oh, that's kind of a nice tease. Yeah, thank you. You're on your game today, buddy. Let me tell you. Yeah, yeah.

I know I had a game to be on. Your game's better when Dan's not here. It seems like. It really is. Yeah. Nothing personal, Dan. No, that's Samson. Ah.

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Don Lebertard. I don't want to be too extreme on this, but he failed America. Stugats. Okay, very good. This is the Don Lebertard show with a Stugats. Okay, very good. This is the down libertar show with a stugat First off before we get the correct thoughts of the dolphins because it's unfair What we do to Greg he comes it up Tuesdays we talked about the dolphins all day on Monday But I do want your thoughts Chris you have the bear video. Oh I have it all right. Let's look at this thing. So we have a bear in the woods. Come on, let's go, let's go TV crew. Let's go, pick up my string.

Let's go. There it is. There we go. OK, so we got a bear here stumbling around. You see that mirror to the left? He's like, oh, this is weird. There's a lot of weird stuff here. Oh my god, it's so much stuff.

Ah! He's like, ah, get out of here. So that's how I imagine a bear would react if they saw Jeremy in the woods, but that's what they do. It's really screwed up to do that to a bear honestly. He's just like not expecting just like having a nice stroll. Right. And just we'll watch it one more time.

This is good fun. Good clean fun right here. It's just like, oh my god. And then he's going. He was definitely looking bear. Definitely scarred from that for a few months. Oh my God! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha something for the internet visually like that. Would they imagine that? What about the chances there's a camera right in front of it too. There's a huge, small world. Greg, it was interesting. A bunch of people agreed that you had a weekend where the Eagles lost, the Niners lost, so no more undefeated teams.

72 dolphins could celebrate, but a lot of people saying the dolphins were the best team of the NFL through six weeks. And so I know you're impressed with the offense. Hawk was in here yesterday. Andrew Hawkins, Tom Hawk podcast. He said that to re kill is the best player non-quarterbacked division in the NFL and I agree with him. The dolphins are overwhelming. I'm not certain they're not the best team in the NFL right now Greg. I think they are at this minute. They're an underdog in Philadelphia, but only by two and a half points, which is

very interesting. Definitely, they have the best offense. I think it's the best offense in Dolphins history. And when I write that, I get a lot of criticism too soon. What about this? What about that? Look, the Dolphins won super bowls with Larry Zonka because they ran the ball better than anybody in barely past.

They were as exciting as ever and broke NFL records with Dan Moreno because they passed the ball like nobody else, but they didn't have a great running game. Now they're doing both. They can run the ball like crazy. They lead the league in rushing where he most of it has 11 touchdowns and six games. And Tua is everything they thought he would be when they drafted him number five ahead of Herbert. Tuha is the favorite in the MVP odds right now. Should be.

With great reason. And I just think this is the most dynamic, well-balanced, inventive, exciting offense have ever had. Can we end the debate between Herbert and Tuha? Yes. Is it officially over? Yes. Yes. So it officially over? Yes.

So I'm just making a noise. Where's the noise coming from? Not? Tony's not ready yet. Can we see Justin Herbert without Bren and Staley? At that point, maybe with a better coach, being intrigued. We're going to ask that question about Justin Herbert for his whole career, right? We're just going to keep asking, like, oh, but what if he was with a better coach?

Oh, always. Just like unbelievable weapons. He was like, now CJ Stroud and a better coach always just like not unbelievable weapons to just like now cj uh... astral and uh... in brush younger always gonna be compared throughout their career but herberts been the lee what four years and if stale gets fired and gets a new coach will be his third coach in five years no it's a shame for me and he's a he's a really great quarterback but i guess it's the way they were constantly doing these comparisons between the two of them when

one of them is not only winning, but breaking all of these records statistically and having a spectacular season. Obviously, the system has something to do with that. It would be crazy to say that it's not Mike McDaniel in some capacity, but also different quarterbacks fit in different systems, different ways. And Justin Herbert has his flaws that maybe wouldn't work if he was just in the system. I think there's so many people saying, oh, well, if Herbert was in two a spot,

it would be even better. I don't, I have no reason to believe that's the case. I have something that's probably not popular, especially down here in Miami. Oh, wow, boy. Dolphins offense is everyone football for me. Like, I can't watch a football game. That's not the Dolphins.

It's done the exact opposite for me. I just can't football amazing. Like, I'm watching no game. It's great, but I football game that's not the dolphin. It's done the exact opposite for me. I just can't football amazing. Like I'm watching no way. It's great, but I'm saying it's ruined the rest of football for me. Like I can't watch just a single game that's not the dolphins. Like I mean, it's the third quarter. It's like, I don't know, 14 to nine or something. I can't watch it.

I'm like, is your option? Doesn't do it. Why can't you guys just score? I don't understand. Like why does it take you so long to score Why can't you just score in three plays in 45 seconds like what's going on here? They spoiled you It doesn't make sense to me. I don't get it. Is that what I always like?

I can't imagine watching Iowa football. No, we don't score that much. That's crazy Why don't they want a game 15 to six over the weekend? But why don't you just why don't you just try having everyone go in motion and throwing them all? Yeah, when just score more just get all the fast players in the country that ends running early. Yeah, I can't you just try having everyone go in motion and throw in the ball. Yeah, when just score more, just get all the fast players in the country running early. Yeah, I can't just do that, I don't get it. There have been so many seasons in the past, so many dolphin seasons in the past,

where if they're behind 14 to nothing in the first quarter, the crowd is leaving, everybody's giving up. The game is over. The game is over. Too late. Too late on laughing on the sideline after they scored the second touchdown, and I'm like, whoa, right? Because I thought they were gonna second touch on and I'm like whoa right because I thought they were going to

come back but I'm like I don't know where to supreme confidence he was smiling after the second touchdown on the sideline they were behind 14 nothing they were still you know how the odds update now Christopher pointed this out to me I didn't know when they're down 14 to nothing there's still a minus 200 favorite to win the game there was no, and it wasn't just because Carolina sucks, which it does. It's because the Dolphins offense is until somebody proves otherwise almost unstoppable. And like five years ago, we were watching Jay Cutler throw passes to Devonte Parker. Right.

That was, and that was supposed to be the height of excitement of the Dolphins offense since Dan Marino. Yeah, amazing. And now it's this. So this is the dolphins offense since Dan Marino. Yeah, amazing. And now it's this. So this is the best offense. That's saying a lot considering Marino Clayton Dupur in that offense. I think so because now they have a running game.

And the offensive line is exceeded expectations. And, and, and, genuine model is your second best receiver. Yeah. It, it, it, there's just so many reasons they're great. One of them is team speed. They're, Rahim Moster is team speed. Rahim most dirt is the fastest running back in the NFL and he's the fourth or fifth fastest guy

in their offense. It's crazy speed led by the Cheetah and it's just it's fun to watch. It's a lot of fun. The dolphins are running the most dirt. Hmm. Well done. There you go. Rahim has the most dirt touched on in the NFL. There you go. Rahim has the most dirt touched on's in the NFL. He does indeed. And you know it. And you know what? Don Lebatard. I heard the hotel industry is moving away

from providing shampoo and soap. Oh, don't get me started on them. Yeah. Do not get me started on hotels and stuff that they do. Oh, guys, what they take from me, I feel like I'm entitled to take something from them. That is the ability, yes. They're gonna throw away the shampoo, they're gonna throw away the soap. I'm entitled to take something from them. That's the ability.

They're gonna throw away the shampoo. They're gonna throw away the soap. I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about the sheets and I'm talking about the towels. Still gots. Oh, we really care about the environment. So please, hang up your towels and get out of here. You just don't want to wash these towels because it's going to cost you money to wash these

towels. All right, this whole thing about you're saving the whales or you're saving the turtles or whatever because I put my towel on a hanger. It is so full of it. All right, you just don't want to give me fresh towels every day. Just call it what it is. Tell me you don't want to give me fresh towels. I'm still going to throw it on the floor.

All right. I feel like water is a renewable resource. And you're not really saving the ocean by using water to clean my towel. Are you? Am I missing something? What am I missing? Am I missing something? The end of the story.

This is the Don Lebertar Show with this two gods. Greg, I have to cut your toenails twice. It's a nonsense. Yes. I know. The first time you've ever said that in your life? Rubble. Yes.

I'm the only person to have cut your toenails twice. And I'm including you. Yes. Thank you for that. You got it. Yes, I'm the only person to have cut your toenails twice, and I'm including you. Yes. Yes. Thank you for that. You got it. Third time's a charm. You told me that something was going on

with the toenail though, before the show started. Yeah. You know, my great right toe on the outward side, chipped. I don't know how. But all of a sudden, I'm sleeping in the bed, and I'm feeling my right foot catching on the comforter.

Like, you know, like a hook. Yeah, yeah. And so I investigated and my great right toe, it's great. I haven't trimmed it yet because, you know, I wanted to let it go. But now I have to trim it. It's so sad. Why did you feel like this was a topic for the show? Well, because it's been a theme throughout the show

for 10 years. You know, the listeners say, no my toe. They know my toenails. They're just picturing you, no back in my day, got my toe topic, good to go. I mean, you know, I didn't bring it up, Stugusta, but I'm glad he did. Because it's dear to my heart,

I hate trimming my own toenails. That's why I let them go. I let them grow. But now I have no choice. Because it's like a surgical procedure now when I put a sock on my right foot, because the sock will catch on the sharp, shard of a great toenail, because it needs cutting. You have a snaggle toe. I do.

Is that a word? I didn't know. It is now. One of the most impossible things was bringing one of my friends who is not really in the Levitard Show universe to Moss last year. I'm walking past the Greg Coding Toe booth. And hundreds of people.

I had to do the calculation in my head of like, should I try to explain this or just hope that she doesn't see it? Yeah. Would you do the latter? I just hurried her face. Yeah, keep it moving. Keep it moving. That was a strangest experience of my entire life

is seeing a long line of hundreds of people waiting in line to see my toenail, right? Lucy, what's going on back there? You know, you can pay someone to cut your toenails for you. And it's a really enjoyable experience. The medical or thing? Yeah, pedicure. Yeah.

So nice. Lucy, you're not understanding. He needs a hammer and chisel. Yeah. No, they, I've seen, they're not going to have that at the gloss lab. You have to go to one of the like, dingy or nail salons, but I have seen them like I saw a TikTok once of a guy who used like a Handsaw I also saw like a drill file type of deal you they have the heavy duty stuff It might cost you more, but it really is a nice experience. Yeah, I've never had a pedicure I don't think a pedicureist would accept me as a client. No, they would, this is for people who have committed war crimes.

Lucy's never seen my great donails. I don't want to. It's thicker than a seat show. You should show a two. Wait, you've never seen that. Don't do it. You should show a two. I'm not doing this.

I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. It's thicker than a seat show. Right, that's true. Well, I mean, Chris, I think your dad's asking for help here. I mean, Greg, I will tell you this.

A petty is a fantastic experience. Lucy is right. Unless they, unless other than when they're scrubbing the right, I love it. It tickles. I love it. I love all of it. Abby tried to get me to go for years and I finally went.

I was in New York City. I told the story on the show before, but I was sitting in the chair getting it done and I sent her, when I thought was her, I sent a text saying, this is better than sex. You were right. I sent it text saying, this is better than sex, you were right. I sent it to Alden Smith. Hmm. Wow. He hasn't responded yet.

Have you guys ever done the thing where the fish eat like your dead skin off of your legs? That's terrible for you, don't do that. It's terrible for you. Yeah. I've read a lot of stories of like bacteria and stuff. I've heard horror stories about the bacteria also. Yeah, I'm out on the little fish eating my skin.

The bear agrees to. I would never have. Okay. Greg, funny enough, I have, because my niece and nephew gave my wife a seashell, like when they went to the beach or whatever, so she keeps it in her car to remind her of, you know, the kids. And you always think, and I always tell her, I'm like, babe, that's basically Greg Cody's Tonya. Thank you. And she's like, oh my God, it's disgusting. I'm like babe. That's basically Greg Cody's Tony

Thank you. Oh my god. It's disgusting. I'm like no, it's actually quite an honor. Yeah, you ruined like a nice family Arale. Yeah, that's the best compliment you can pay to me and by the way, Christopher has something to look forward to Let me tell you why when my father wildbilt Cody was very late in his life. I used to trim his toenails Oh, it was a very and he and I'm talking about he's in his life. I used to trim his toenails. Oh, it was a very, and he, and I'm talking about he's in his 80s. It was a very intimate moment between myself and my aging father. Right. And I would trim his toenails for him. And Chris is going to be able to do this. We hope that maybe in 10 years or so, Christopher will pass it down. You did this when pop was on his deathbed. Yeah. And you can look forward to doing that. He's going bestow that on his deathbed. I'm just making sure this isn't happening today.

Yes, when you can't move anymore, years from now, I will cut your toenail for you. Thank you. We're gonna be done. We're gonna be done. We're gonna be done. We're gonna be done. First, then the toenail's gonna have to be the baby steps.

Right, exactly. Put it on the pole, would you cut your dad's toenails? Somebody pointed out on social media, but it there. You had such an easy win if you could have called it Sunday. Oh. You went with Daddy Day. It's the same day.

You had that. But it's not to celebrate the sun, it's to celebrate the dad, so it's Daddy Day. You know what, I'm gonna prefer Daddy Day. Yeah. Put it on the pole. What's a better day for help your dad in the yard? Name.

Daddy Day. Sun Day would worse. Sun days more exclusive because it's only to sons where Daddy day you can have daughters involved as well. Sure. Daddy day is all about honoring your dad. Yeah, exactly right. Thank you.

Sun day is about honoring the son. We're leaving the son alone in your case. Yeah, I like the word play. Sunday work. Nah. For a good reason. For Daddy day. That's exactly right.

Greg, what do you think of the Keynes over the weekend? You know, it's weird. Had they not lost in the way they lost at Georgia Tech? Right. There's nothing shameful about a 4131 loss at number 12 North Carolina. It's only in the context of the loss that made it seem like such a Georgia Tech. Right. Yeah. I, you Yeah, I continue to be pro Mario Chrisball. I do. I thought it was patently ridiculous when they lose the Georgia Tech granted by his bone head mistake.

And it's like, he should resign! Fire him now! Crazy. The team is much, much better than last year. You can see it. It's palpable. They're going to have a much better record than last year. He recruits like crazy. He's palpable. They're going to have a much better record than last year. He recruits

like crazy. He's a great recruiter. This is, he has another great recruiting class in 24. It's going to be top 10. And they're going to do fine with him. And I think he's a good coach. They're much better than they were last year. They've lost two in a row, one inexcusably. But I'm pro-crisable. I'm not. Like, I'm with Billy. In terms of, I think he's a great recruiter. Yes. We talked about this a bit last week. I don't think he's a good game coach.

I really don't. That's fair. I think when you have a chance to help your team win and you do the exact opposite of what every other coach in America would do, which is taking knee, you don't do that, the players lose trust in you. And so I don't feel like he's a great coach. I could envision a day where not just Miami, but a lot of programs have a guy who's like a CEO overseeing the program in charge of

recruiting, doing all that and then have a better head coach on the sidelines, actually coaching the games because there is an orc to coaching the game. You have to be paying attention. Your team needs to be able to trust you. And right now, I don't feel like the games are trusting their coach. Either that or you need to listen to your staff. Right. They were screaming in his headset, taking me and he, you know, through willful ignorance. He said, no, we're running the ball. That's on him. I guarantee he will never make that mistake again. If you give me the choice in in college football of having a great recruiter or a great Game day coach I will take the recruiter because being a great game day coach is just a matter of listening to your assistance and not doing anything stupid

It's overrated Overrated they literally just lost they ruined their entire season because of it Well, they didn't ruin their entire season. They they they one game because of Mario Chris ball i i grant you that there's no and it snowballed into another lost now come on they probably would have lost a given there's no link there here also playing for a conference championship and having one loss is better than having to in the conference so i think it does matter a lot that it was to george attack right it does i mean fairness, I don't think they're playing for the conference

championship this year. Well, they're definitely not now. They were. They would have. Right. Okay. They were because they hadn't played anyone else in their conference yet. It's coming up where they're going to have FSU.

They had North Carolina. They have clenched like they have. Right. They have conference losses on the. Yeah, but they could have been headed into those games undefeated. They should, well, maybe they would have lost last week. I understand your point, right? They probably would have lost less.

Well, it was a tough game. Caroline is good. Caroline is really good. The point is now you just won't know because they lost the game that they shouldn't lose. That's why it matters so much that it is in that game. I think what's discouraging if you're a UM fan is that you know it used to be Clemson was the King of that conference and now based on the polls if as you as the King of that conference, okay, but They're also not as good as Duke of all teams. They're not as good as North Carolina

They're not as good as Louisville based on the ranking. So it's like they're a mid-pack team. A UMFan can accept, all right, maybe we're the second best team in the conference, but they can't accept, maybe we're the fifth or sixth best team, and I think that's what Chris Paul, that's the hurdle he has to get over. Well, I feel like that's the exact opposite point, though, you're making about Duke. They hired Mike Elko, who is a great defensive coordinator,

great coach, knows what he's doing, knows how he kind of blinked at the end of the Notre Dame game, but he knows what he's doing in terms of in-game management. They were able to win last weekend against a conference opponent with their backup quarterback only having four completions, I think, like just an awesome defense. They were able to do that within two years. He was hired at the same time as Mario Cristobal, And now you're looking at a huge difference, like you said, between Duke and Miami. If you put them head to head, I would, I would take

Duke in that game. Right. But that's the thing that I think Miami fans have to grapple with is like, you have the great recruiter Mario Cristobal and you can keep looking ahead like next year's class is going to be great. Next year's class is going to be great. Next year's class is going to be great. But like, what are you doing with those players that you have on your team right now? Duke doesn't have a ton of five stars or a ton of four stars and they're still winning games in the conference

because they know what they're doing when it comes to game time. Right. Jimbo Fisher is the perfect example of this. He brought in the number one recruiting class in the country in Texas A&M was garbage. Yeah. That is now the Texas A&M team that Miami-based,

hey, we're really great off of, it is like, you need to find the balance of it because recruiting has never been more important, but there are teams like Duke, there are teams like Iowa that win games without recruiting well at all. I have a question for Lucy and Jess on this and I'm wondering,

because I feel like you guys know college football better than anyone here. Do you feel like NIL kind of is the equalizer? So if you're not like a great recruiter, but you have the money, you can kind of get people that you wouldn't have gotten before. I would say like yes and no, I think that it serves both purposes where Texas Tech just had one of the,

you know, top rated recruits choose to come play for them. So it brings that advantage to a school that may not get like great recruits to, you know, come to Lubbock, but it also creates a divide at the same time where the stronger getting stronger. So I don't, I can't like come out and clearly say it is just an equalizer. But if you're like a middle-of-pack team, like U.S., right?

Yeah, like so how did tech get that player? Money, right. And I am, okay. And so it's, there are schools that do it really well's there are schools that do it really well there are schools that do it really poorly and so I think that the schools that do it well are the schools that have were already good at football because they already have a lot of boosters they have a lot of people that care they already make a lot of money ls u for example does nil better than any other not a fundraise yeah they know how to fundraise they have a network but exactly it I think it opens up opportunities to see star players go to schools like Missouri instead because they have this law where you can make NIL money in high school if you choose

to play in state. It's going to create this, I think it depends more on the laws than even the school because certain schools like Arkansas, you can just pay them directly from the state. It's a very complicated, unregulated system, but I do think it adds competition, but also takes it away at the same time. But in a school like Miami, for example, right? Mario's big thing is he's this great recruiter. Is that necessary?

When you're at a school that Erdi has a brand, if you have the money, do you put emphasis on the recruiting knowing we could get them anyways if we just give them more money? Let's get a coach that's better at coaching in game. Well, I think it does matter because one, they're not going to be able to afford to fire Mario Chris Paul. No, yeah, yeah. That's not in the cards. That is how he has built this college football coaching sort of.

I don't want to call an empire because that's not what it is. But he's only done it through recruiting. So if Miami was like, you know what, hey, we can get good players like just with the money we have, that's not enough anymore because Ohio State has a shit ton of money. Ohio State can buy whoever they want. I actually think that it's the same thing. Recruiting and being able to navigate NIL and the portal are now, it's the same job. So, if you're a good recruiter, you're probably also good at scouting out players that might

want to come to your school after they're soft sophomore junior year and it's not separate anymore. So there's still value to him being a great recruit. There's tons of value in it. Like they're going to be competitive in big games because he's able to get really good players to come to Miami. I think what the like existential question is about the program is like does the recruiting fall off when you have a longer, you know, sampling of what sampling of what Mario's done at Miami. Are you able to get these players to still buy in?

Because last year, it was like, their recruiting pitch was pretty easy. It was like, look, the U-Cars about football again. They're paying Mario Cristobal $100 million or whatever his contract was to come here and they're going to turn things around. And if in like two or three years, they haven't really done that. Are you still able to sell that to recruits? Like probably, if you're Mario Cristobal, that's what he's been really good at.

But maybe, maybe not as well. And maybe that is what changes. I'm not, I'm not sure. And if you look at specifically like this past weekend or rather after Georgia Tech, like Miami still landed a huge recruit who was there visiting that day when they collapsed. So he's still going to be a great recruiter, but the problem is going to be no matter how great your teams are, no matter how many times you get to eight or nine wins Mario

Cristobal for his entire career has been losing those big games or losing one random one early in the year that they're not supposed to lose that eliminates them from the stakes that they ultimately wished that they went to. And so even when he had Justin Herbert, like they didn't quite get to where they needed to go because they were constantly losing in these moments. And that doesn't mean that you're not gonna be a great 8, 9, 10 win program,

potentially every single year with Miami, but their ultimate goal in hiring Mario. Christopher all this to win national championships. And that is a concern when you don't have a great game managing coach. That is why that sort of CEO idea makes some sense with a coach like him or, you know, selfishly, you see, you have a coach like Gus Malzahn, right? Like, I don't trust that guy as an in-game manager. I want him to be the CEO that's in charge of recruiting in

NIL and everything else and let your coaches execute everything. Great point, Claire. There's also the extra added factor that if Miami keeps losing and devastating fashions like this, you're in a day and age where you are no longer just recruiting players to come to your school. You need to recruit your own players to stay. People use the Transreportal more than ever now. Teeth players are leaving bad teams and going where the money is and going where the wins are. You have to add that in too because you're not just worrying

about these high school recruits. You were worrying about everyone else on your own roster right now. I had an idea. Oh boy. A coaching closer. Oh wow. You know, there's a bullpen and

baseball. That went from an old boy to an old wow. Yeah, you bring in someone and a game for you. You do this in coaching where you're like, you know what, our strength isn't the fourth quarter, our strength isn't the last three minutes. Like our coaching closures are gonna come in now,

just can't get us home. He knows game situations, how to use the timeouts, how to take a knee, victory formation. Yeah, I like that, a coaching closer. I do feel like recruiting is such a full time job that it's hard to do both because of the portal, because of transfers, because it's a year-round job now, because you're worried about the kids on your own team staying as well, I do feel like it's hard to pull off both,

to be the great recruiter and the great head coach to the same exact time. That's why the best schools are still the schools that have the biggest, most expensive athletic departments that are like giving their college football coach a staff of like five billion people that they can help out with those things. Like that's where they're still have and have nots in college football. Right. Like Nick Saban's staff is massive. They have analysts, they have scouts, they have people going to other college football games to look at players that might potentially transfer to Alabama. They're not like, it's not just one guy's job to do it. I'm not saying Miami has like a small staff,

but I am saying like, there is still a big difference between the schools that are putting money into those types of resources and the schools that aren't. Sabin's the coaching closer in Alabama. Everyone else is doing the word, he's just kind of the face. Hop on a plane for a five star, if he asked to. Wait, but how did this closer work? Does he, does he not make an appearance

until the fourth quarter? Do you have to call for the closer? Like, how do you imagine this work? Terrible pen. I was actually thinking about that. Maybe we have open the shoes. No, we have the coaching closer up in the booth or maybe they're stretching,

they're putting on the headset, doing different things. It's obviously they're not throwing. Maybe you throw around a ball a little bit if you want. And then now you do the light show when the coaching closer is gonna come out, maybe runs out of the tunnel or something. I like it. And Clems that they run down the hill.

By the way, say what you will about Davo. The fact that he's never fallen, running down that hill, he's incredible to me. Incredible to me. Because the day that he falls, he has to just keep walking, right? Like right out of the stadium, you can never coach that team again.

Incredible that he runs full speed. Because even the players, he kinda like, just hop down sideways and kinda like, go in casually, but he sprints down and I don't know how he sprints down the hill. It's really steep. If you're a student at Clemson,

you can get tickets to sit on the hill. That's like the fill in section. If you don't get seats in the stands, yeah, like basically freshman have to sit on the hill. Yeah. And it's really. That was I couldn't even tell Do you find that one funny?

I was like looking at his mouth moving and I was like wow, this is weird It's really steep if you have to stand there for four quarters You're gonna have sore calves by the end of that game. It is not it's not pleasant. Hmm Wow, I was waiting for it. I couldn't walk down that hill alone run You could walk down that hill. I could've alone run. You could walk down that hill. No, you wouldn't. You would fall. I would fall.

I don't think I could walk down the hill. Other nail might get caught in a blade of grass. I think you have to take it out of jog, actually. My nail would trip me. You know when you're going down a steep hill like at a tropical park? Yeah. It's actually easier to do it at a jog

because you get some momentum and you're very sure footed, you're not going to trip and fall. If you walk, you might trip. You might trip over your feet. to do it at a jog because you get some momentum and you're very sure-footed, you're not going to trip and fall. If you walk, you might trip. You might trip over your feet.