The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Spin Room

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Today's Cast: Dan, Izzy, Roy, Tony, Mike, Jess, Jeremy. The Miami Heat got its season off to a disastrous start, getting blown out by the Orlando Magic at home, and Dan is ready to sound the alarms. Are we going to get in trouble for doing so? As Dan freaks out, Jeremy tries to get everybody to remain calm and gets sent to our brand new Spin Room to try and spin this loss into a positive. While we wait for the Spin Room to get set up, Mike and the gang discuss his issues with getting the Heat game on streaming due to the changes in regional sports networks around the country. Plus, Tony wants to start watching Heat games as a new father, Kennesaw State pulled off one of the greatest upsets in college football history over Liberty and we remember the time Hugh Freeze coached a game from a hospital bed and lost 24-0. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Roy, where's the shadow show imaging? This is not a good start for you in the EP chair. Where is the imaging? Why are we two minutes late because you can't find the shadow show imaging? I don't know. I'm just going to blame Chris on this because he didn't name the shadow show imaging shadow show. All right. Our EP chair has been soiled by nepotism. We need to do better than this. We do. We can help you out, Dan. we can analog the shadow. Shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow that you are here today and that Tony and Jess are here today because they will help me, I hope, manage a situation that has gotten totally away. Should I take this as a hint?

From me over the last few years. Well, you're at the center, the literal center of what I wanted to talk about today, which just like in politics, where the center has moved so much that by standing in the same place, I'm far left, even though I'm just sort of, I've been on the left and the center's moved away from me.

Radical left-hand. This shows Heat allegiances has gotten so crazy, Izzy, that what used to be Mike Ryan as obnoxious Heat fan then turned into Parakeet Cortez as obnoxious Heat media fan, and now Jeremy's out to see. Me? With his defenses of the miami heat at

every turn when if i were to say to you is he how can the heat season start the worst possible way dedicate the court to riley as jimmy butler doesn't feel like talking to media or playing very much from from what it is that i witness in terms of game one how do you have the worst possible game after Pat Riley told you to shut up if you're not playing and Jimmy Butler comes out and you want to see not playing? It wasn't even just that. Dwayne Wade was in the building.

Jimmy never struggles when Dwayne Wade's in the building. There were other heat luminaries in the building and the two superstars just went wah wah. Roy as EP I want you to get me alarm imaging sounds bells whistles as Jessica and Tony and Izzy try to explain to us why it is they're gonna spend the entire season laughing at the Miami Heat. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings than all it has to offer throughout

the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Izzy, I don't want to overreact without perspective off of a single game. I don't want to, okay? But what I'm about to say, you tell me if you didn't feel it at least slightly yesterday. Roy, can you give me some overly alarming imaging of any sort that you have back there? Yeah. Do something with the lights in here. Yes. You know, we could never do this if we were on traditional radio. This is an FCC violation.

I remember one time Gary Blau wanted to kill me for doing this. I think ESPN got fined for this recently. Wow. Should we tell people not to panic? I think it's funnier that Roy probably didn't know any of that and may have just stepped into a second early EP mistake of playing. You got lucky on playing a sound we're not allowed to play as an alarm sound. You got lucky, right?

Completely forgot about Gary Blau. Okay. Dan is a 20 year season veteran of this game. To be honest, he's the one that called for it. I called for alarming sounds. I didn't call for these alarming sounds. Roy picked the most hockey goal sounding alarming sound in the audio library as well.

Okay, but you guys I don't think are gonna disagree with this creeping feeling that happened last night. This just feels like regular show. There's always alarms going off on this show. That's true. Viadrills. What is an alarming sound that isn't an alarm? Just so we're clear the next time when you call for one.

Like my phone when it rings in the morning to wake me up. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, thank you. That's called a radar, Dan. Well, I've got a number of different sounds. It's not just radar is one of them, is it not? I've got dozens of possibilities. I've got a bit of tinkling.

There's a tinkling sound. A wind chime? That's less alarming. I've got one for whenever you email us at 3.30 AM. Which is often What I'm going to say right now I believe to be true as a creeping feeling and oh my god It is not a creeping feeling that I have had since Pat Riley got here

To have a court dedicated for him. I Can't believe what I'm about to say. Oh boy Did the Orlando Magic pass them too in the Eastern Conference? Yeah, they did last year. Feels that way. Yeah. No, have they passed them?

I'm not talking about one year where you're like, oh. One year division title outlier. I'm talking about pass them for real. Like, oh, they got the young team that plays defense. Yeah, I got looked at kind of funny when I mentioned. I'm sorry. We're talking about all the teams. I look that kind of funny every day. But when we went through the teams in the Eastern Conference that all improved in the

offseason, that are clearly better than the Heat, no one invoked the Magic. And the Magic added some role players, but traditionally... Except for Kevin Clark. Correct me if I'm wrong, Izzy, but young teams that creep into the playoffs in the fashion that they did, they typically don't slide back. They usually continue ascending. They normally do, and if you're going by that premise, you could say the Indiana Pacers are similar, right?

They could probably make a leap there. What I'll say about Orlando is they already had the great defense in the Eastern Conference last year, and they added KCP, so it should be better. I think, to Dan's point Paolo Boncaro is effectively, to me, Jimmy Butler 2.0, little bigger, little stronger, defends like crazy, not afraid to shoot it from deep. You put those elements together and it's just like,

yeah, they have passed them. Because the Heat is supposed to answer that with more three-point shooting and depth, but it didn't look like they could do that yesterday This is one of the creeping things that sort of made me, you know look askew at you're watching Pat Riley literally age in Remembrance of legacy in a way that makes him speak at halftime. The game is close at halftime, but what happens in the second half? He's talking about bankero and what he represents to them clearly. They're one star as the heat are in

Transition like oh Jimmy is the star but does he really want to be here? How much more of this mileage can there be on those legs? We've seen deterioration and This part to me is super. At the end in Cleveland, the Cavs thought, even though LeBron was putting up a triple-double in the playoffs before being extinguished by the Celtics, Cavs felt, oh, he quit, while statistically putting up a triple-double in the final game. He's quitting. He doesn't care that much.

It looks like quitting when you lose, but he was frustrated going up against Boston. He changes the way he does does things builds a new team the last year in miami the heat organization in those finals against the spurs while lebron put up huge numbers in the finals like he's not trying as hard as he was he's been he's not working this the way that he was to the human eye to you and me

not in statistics would you and i recognize if Jimmy Butler, could he be good enough at basketball to put up decent stat lines that get him to a new contract, but also frustrate people in-house because he's not happy with what his situation is, and we all know that this is going to end badly whenever it ends badly. It's strange to even make a guess on that because you're assuming Jimmy Butler's motivations, top motivation is the next contract, which I understand a lot of people would say, of course that's his top motivation.

But isn't it legacy? You don't think Jimmy Butler wants to not be that guy who came in and almost won it. I think Jimmy Butler not only wants legacy, but this is what he chose. He's not gonna go somewhere else to do this. He's not gonna go to Sacramento and say, hey, let me is what he chose. He's not going to go somewhere else to do this. He's not going to go to Sacramento and say, hey, let me win one over there.

He wants to do it here. And he believes in his heart, I believe, that that will result in the new contract. And for fear of putting too much spin on this, it was just one game, et cetera. But this is a Miami Heat offense. It's trying something new. And that game felt very unnatural yesterday.

The mid-range was absolutely absent. It was like a jail, you couldn't go in there. Orlando has no confusion about where they're going for their offense. Correct, I'm not comparing them. I do think at the moment Orlando has passed them. What I'm saying is you're correct, Miami is in a transition in that their offense is literally in a transition.

They're working on something different. Bam said after the game, Jimmy and I have to find our place to be aggressive here. You could tell by watching it. It didn't feel like natural basketball. It was either three pointers or the rim and nothing else. And I know that's what the game is now, but that's what people complain about when they watch the game now. Yeah.

What you just mentioned about Bam saying that he felt like he was needing to just make the right play in a new offense. Yeah, what you just mentioned about Bam saying that he felt like he was needing to just make the right play in a new offense. It's almost like in football if they hire a new offensive coordinator and we're looking at the first 10 minutes of the first quarter of the first game and making assessments on that offense. But in the first half, the offense looked great in terms of moving the ball, player movement, body movement, the issue really for them was defensively. And that's gonna be an issue all season long. Their personnel is not the same as it's been in years past.

And so I mentioned it in that silly preseason top five last week that they were averaging 15 steals a game and that meant something. Jess, what happened? Jeremy, I'm gonna ask you to leave right now. I'm gonna ask you to leave, Jeremy. No, wait, Izzy, that was my joke. I wanted to make fun of the power of friendship first

and you stole it from me. Did they get the power of friendship or no? They didn't do it on air, it was a private thing that they were doing amongst each other there. There's often private shows going on around here that are better than the real show. I wish it were the public show. Power of friendship was on the real show

while you were in New York last week. It was one of Jeremy's top five reasons why he was excited about the Miami Heat season. And I just wanted to throw that in his face. And he's evaded me to it. But you did it with each other and not with me, which would have been the way to do that on air as I was kicking Jeremy out instead of getting

in the way of what I was doing. You could have supported what I was doing. What I'm doing with Jeremy is I'm kicking him out because he said in the way of what I was doing. You could have supported what I was doing. What I'm doing with Jeremy is I'm kicking him out because he said in the first half, they look great offensively and yammer, yammer, spin, spin. So please right now create for him a spin room where I can have something left of center here that is radical liberal.

And he, all he does is defend the Miami Heat at every turn. And it does not matter What it is we're saying he will find a way to spin The positive on it. So create for me a spin room where at least I have obviously and aesthetically the ability to show people that he is compromised and biased and our center has moved Do you know how hard it is to be more extreme than Parakeet Cortez? Do you know how hard it is to be more obnoxious than Mike Ryan?

Mike Ryan, did you even watch that Heat game? Mike Ryan, you don't even care the way Jeremy, you don't even care to be biased on the Miami Heat. You feel like you've been right about the Miami Heat for two years and now you're just bored by them. A few months ago I said, I don't have a new thought on the Miami Heat. I am incapable of making a new take.

I get positioned as a Heat homer. I've been, I guess, to the Heat community, pretty staunchly anti-Heat. And no, I didn't watch the game because I wasn't able to. Yeah, that's tricky. I was one of, it was dicey. Like some people that have Xfinity were able to watch FD Son. I wasn't able to watch FD Sun.

I wasn't able to. Yeah, there's a new gambling entity. And so I thought I could have a clever work, I don't know if it's because they played the magic and FD Sun was like, oh, we'll black it out. And then I went on the FD app and I have all the credentials, I have all the packages. It's a different app now.

Yeah, but I have all the credentials for it because it's a carryover from the previous B-Sun Sports, which was also a gambling entity, which speaks to how bad they are at everything over at Bally's because everyone's like, wow, hey, look. I thought it was B. Hey, a gambling entity is now the regional sports network.

Everyone had that same opinion, totally ignoring the fact that B is supposed to be one because they've never done anything right. What do they do well? Anyways, I wasn't able to watch it. I tried for 25 minutes and I realized, I don't actually care this much. So I'm gonna stop and maybe the next game

that's not against another team from the state of Florida, I can watch. If I can't, then I may pull a call into Xfinity. But no, I wasn't able to watch. I did bet the magic though and won. I will tell everybody here that if he had been watching, he's been warning you of I will hate the Heat from there for about, I don't know, when was it that they traded

for Terry Rozier? Because that was the game last night that Mike is worried about which is Bam and Jimmy Butler don't do anything like that that is as bad as both of them can be statistically on the court at the same time like they can't be worse than that there can't be a worse game that the two of them have played that many minutes and been that useless in the game and then Terry Rozier is doing an inefficient five for 15 that's the game Mike Ryan has feared for a while,

but I wanted to talk because Jessica and Tony are laughing at you Mike, and I'm really concerned about this. In the streaming age, as they bleep with the customers and make things super confusing because this is not something you can change, people are used to getting this stuff

the way they've gotten it, and you're really gonna test some sports consumer customer allegiances if you don't give people the way to find the games. If Mike Ryan is having trouble at this, what do you think it's gonna look like for me soon when I start going through things and I cannot find the game when Mike Ryan's supposed to be, it's always, hey Mike, fix this for me. Well, it's just gonna get more expensive. Dude, it's plenty expensive for me. Not to look at me, Louie, but I pay several hundreds of dollars to watch sports.

And you make these decisions. I did this recently for the Panthers. I downloaded something called Panthers Plus, and I was like, okay, if this is gonna keep me from having to sign into my sister's Fubo account every time, I will pay $70 for this. And I'm pretty sure I paid twice, because the first time I paid, logged in, this. And I'm pretty sure I paid twice,

because the first time I paid, logged in, and I went back, and it was like, oh, you still don't have anything. And there's $70 just for Panthers game. I don't think you actually need Panthers Plus. Really? I don't need it. I'm a Panther fan. I watch every Panther game.

I got YouTube TV. I can't watch it. They're on the Spelling Bee network now, and I'm being able to watch them. Mike, it was really easy for me. So I went to my Fire Stick TV and I said FD, right? And then it popped up and then I clicked it and then I clicked in like the code.

Wait a second, that sounds one of the legal states. And then I worked and then it worked. I appreciate you walking me through this. I do all those things. I spoke into my remote, FD. And it's like, all right, here's FD. Download it. And then I click FD and it's like all right here's FD and I click FD and it's like you need a subscription for this I'm like I'm pretty sure I watched their preseason game a few days ago on FD oh yeah well

it wasn't it was B then ah crossover to from B FD is the difference so I put it in the group chat that's not the spelling bee. No, it's a different one. So A and D and D are not the spelling bee. There's spelling bee, there's bee, and then there's FD. Sound like. Not to do my own ornery, but I know my way around this tech. OK? So I put it in the group chat, hey, is anyone else having an issue?

And other people that had the same service that I had didn't have an issue. Or was it specifically the ABA group chat? It's a catch-all one that you can talk to. It was the shit chat. No, no, it wasn't the shit chat. And we use S. Wait, I have a question.

Is FD a regional network? So is it FDR? It's all regional networks. All the Bs are now FDs. So I put it in the group chat, hey, is anybody else who has Xfinity, does anyone else have this issue? Some of them said yes.

Some of them said no. I put it out on social media. Some of those people didn't have an issue. You didn't text me. Buddy, I'm good. Tony, you say you're good, Mike. I put it out on social media some of those people didn't have an issue. I Buddy I'm good Tony you say you're good my watch my watch the entire thing you say you're good And I understand you are good at being condescending and everyone here is good at condescending Tony, but I believe Tony Generationally from Cubans from another time knows how to Jerry rig all his equipment So he's getting all the games and he's paying less than. That is true, I pay like 40 bucks a month. My favorite part about watching Heat Games,

my favorite part about watching Heat Games on Fubo TV, which again is not mine, it's my sister's, is that other family members also sign in, and when it says the streaming limit, it says continue watching or watch something else, I continue, I kick all the other family members off, and I send a family group chat, please I'm watching the heat game,

get the hell off the TV. Izzy's old school Latin of seven relatives in a house sharing a password. Tony's new school, no, we've mastered the game. I know how to get all of this stuff for $9. And the FBI shut down one of the sites, but we moved and we made a better site, Dan. I have a just a clarifying question.

Don't say that so loudly. I didn't say anything. We're talking about FDs and Bs and all that. I'm doing my own thing. Regarding the FD, if I had hypothetically wanted to watch the Heat, which I did not. I was watching the Liberty-Kennesaw State game last night. Banger. Hypothetically, how would I get it if I have YouTube TV?

I can't watch the Heat at all? Because I also have YouTube TV. That's crazy. I have a lot of things. Yeah, during the football season, I treat myself. I'm like, you know, one of the TVs could use a multi-screen. So I do that, even though I already have three screens. I have a very impressive living.

Can I tell you an old man move that happened to me? I didn't realize that my NFL Sunday ticket was on auto-renew. I was like, I'm definitely going to take a year off of this, because I hear the prices are crazy, up too late. Already renewed. That's how they get you. It is.

So, I canvassed on social media, and some people said, I'm having the same issue with Xfinity. Other Xfinity customers were like, oh, I'm able to watch it. So, okay, weird luck of the draw. But universally, everyone thinks that app is trash. That app is, if you look in the app store,

it's rated one and a half stars. And it had been, and that's not just an FD thing, that was a B thing. So I try to log in. What I don't understand about the FD and the B is that Tony's welcoming and inviting the F, the B, and the I. That's what he's doing.

Well, they shut that one down, but we, again. I'm not gonna be the guy in the chat. All right, send me a link, because ultimately, I don't need to see the Vogners. I'm good. Tony could have sent you a link, because ultimately, I don't need to see the Vogners. I'm good. Tony could have sent you a link, though, and solved all your problems last night. I could, but he didn't text me.

He said, respectfully, I didn't even think he said respectfully, he just said, I'm good, which, okay, that's fine. I'm gonna actually turn this way now. I hate the drill. I'm not leaning that way. I hate the drill. I didn't need a link, and I certainly wasn't gonna sign up

for another streaming service, because I have pretty much all of them, and I wasn't gonna do the seven-day trial. I'm not giving you that, FD, not at all. So I just realized, okay, maybe it's worth a call into my cable carrier, but I'll make that call when they're not playing Orlando, because maybe FD hasn't figured out

this whole wonky regional blackout thing. So I told my wife, look, B turned into FD, and she's like, well, why did that happen? I was like, well, B was in trouble, FD came in, they took care of it whatever she's I was like look I want to start watching heat games I'm making a promise to myself as a father yeah cuz I usually you know me I usually tune in towards the playoffs and then we start ramping up Why this season? I thought you knew ball. I do but I just don't watch the heat so I was like you know what I'm gonna

really lock in I'm gonna I'm gonna start watching these games for your child Or for you for me. Okay, how you positioned it that you're doing a selfless hack to make you yourself a better father You're watching this season when they're worse than the Orlando magic As as a new father there's things that I want to be consistent with right taking care of a daughter Watching the heat like there's frustrating basketball, right? There's things in my life as frustrating. You're happy. We'll prepare you for a frustrating life of frustration. Exactly. So I was like, look, babe, I'm going to start really locking down, watching these heat games. Okay. She's like, okay, good. I'm like, you know,

once, once the baby's born, I'm going to go on paternity leave, but then I'm going to come back and be ready. We got the MBA full swing, blah, blah, blah. And then we start watching the game. She's like, so you're gonna watch all these games? And I was like, eh. Maybe not all of them. It's a lot of them. It makes me wanna talk about how funny it is

that Embiid is already saying I'm not playing any back-to-back since the investigation. Well, that team's done, too. Paul George and Embiid, first game out. No, we're out tonight. Zion Williamson, I'm out tonight. First game out. This makes the old heads crazy. It Williamson, I'm out tonight. First game out. This makes the old heads crazy.

It has to. Well, there was a bit of a disconnect because I don't think the media has come down strongly enough on this load management thing. And Izzy says, I think they've come down pretty strong, but it's game one of a season. And stars are already doing load management. And I asked Izzy, as someone that,

I've never played basketball at that high level, I'll run around in the gym and feel sore the next day. I understand it's physical exertion, but I feel like the NBA's players union has done such a great job at convincing us that basketball is so much more grueling on the body than it actually is. But I understand why a pitcher can't go out there

and pitch every day, but I don't understand why Chris Middleton can't. I would say the way Jimmy Butler plays is physically taxing. If you're wanting to go to the floor 16 times a game to get fouled. And I feel like you bought it hook, line, and sinker. Because I feel like he's fully capable

of doing it occasionally back to back nights. Other guys have. I do think to my, I'm disagreeing with Mike here when I say I don't think that players have gotten away with it, I think players have gotten a lot from, a lot of heat from reporters over the years, Kawhi Leonard, Anthony Davis, all of them for injuries, but also just for missing time,

but I do think that players have gotten in this whole concept of my body needs to be perfect to play. In the regular season anyway, in the playoffs they'll play through things. In the regular season if it's the smallest, the slightest tweak, I think they're taking that day off and I think the coaches and other players will say, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. We want him at his best. Next man up mentality, all that. So they've tucked themselves into that being the case. But if you go back just 15, 20 years, there's guys playing through things all the time and they survive through

the seasons. So you have your detractors. Zeke played with a broken ankle, Dan. Okay? Oh, I'm not- Larry Byrd was on the floor for 90% of his career. Look, speaking of old heads, because this is a plague on the NBA, this has been super interesting to watch. The NBA has gotten to be an international sport and bigger than baseball, The NBA has gotten to be an international sport and bigger than baseball because it does such a good jobs of making it stars stars and now they're upset when their stars behave like stars.

Like this has been an entitlement passed down. Yes, of course, Michael Jordan played all the games. They all played 82 games during a season. But now you've got the former president of the United States looking at Halliburton and saying, you bums today. Like looking straight in his face. You guys need to try, like stop. This is, look man, this is the strongest stance

I've ever seen Obama take. Can I say something though? Y'all gotta have a little more pride in that All-Star game. I mean, look, it's not as if y'all don't play pickup during the summers. Right. You know how to play in a way that, all right, I'm not gonna hurt anybody,

I'm not gonna take anybody out. That All-Star Games, it's broke, man. I mean, people just like not running, everybody just trying all kinds of, it used to be when Kobe and Michael and Isaiah, those guys were playing man. I mean, they weren't playing the way they did regular season, but they wanted to win.

This sounds like a conversation with my pops right now. He gave me the same speech. It insults the game. Brackham. That sounded like a segment from your show the other day when Amin just wanted to be Barack Obama and talked over you all the time. Tyrese Halliburton was not getting a chance to

Talk the president was not done to that point Halliburton shot like four shots from half court during the all-star game He's not wrong. He's not wrong. Well, what's happening in the sport is super interesting to me because of course This is what it's wrong. It's the only time I've ever seen Halliburton struggle to get a shot on He was, that was, I'd like to play that again comedically just so that you can listen to the comedic perfection in Obama was, oh Halliburton, you think you're a star? No, I'm gonna get this opinion off. You're not going to say anything here.

Can I say something though? Y'all gotta have a little more pride in that All-Star game. I mean, look, it's not as if y'all don't play pickup during the summers right you know how to play in a way that all right I'm not gonna hurt anybody I'm not gonna take anybody out that all-star games it's broke man well I mean like people just like not running everybody just trying all kinds of, it used to be when Kobe and Michael and Isaiah, and those guys were playing maps,

I mean, they weren't playing the way they did regular season, but they wanted to win. This sounds like a conversation with my pops right now. He gave me the same speech. It insults the game. That was D-Poi level. D-Poi level defense from Barack Obama. I wanna ask all of you, does it not make sense to you that the social media generation

of star in this game would get lectured by Obama and be like, no I don't have to play this like daddy and granddaddy did. I'm getting my money, it's guaranteed. I'm beads telling you now, no more back-to-backs the rest of my career. I'm out. Like that's,'s easy being investigated for this Silver's gotta beg these players to try their hardest and risk injury during the regular season because they've made the regular season not matter Right isn't that sort of the argument that? Everyone would complain if the stars weren't playing in the playoffs and that load management is a way to hopefully mitigate some injuries during the regular season so that doesn't happen.

I'm not sure what the solution to this is but I saw a graph that said if the new TV deal the way these salaries are going in 10 years the max salary is going to be at 120 million dollars a year I'd try to stay healthy too. of the country a chance to win the ultimate game day experience from tickets to sideline passes and much more just head to wedogamedays.com until November 15th 2024 to enter for your chance to win that's wedogamedays.com smirnoff wedogamedays please drink responsibly smirnoff number 21 vodka distilled from grain 40 alcohol by volume the smirnoff company new york new york please do not share with anyone under legal drinking age no no purchase necessary, 21 plus, ends November 15th, 2024. See rules at website for participating area

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Don Lebertard. Teammates can't shoot from three, now they're gonna see a different Jimmy. Now he's just, just playin', nickel back in the locker room and- Stugats. They'll play D and show threes, as they chase the Nats for the sixth seed. These five words This is the Don LeBathardt Show with the Stugarts. There are many criticisms that I have been hit with over the last two or three years and most of them are fair. I'm not even going to object to most of them. One of them has been that I am too prisoner of the moment, not unlike my father, who spent my

entire childhood, and I'm mortified whenever I see my father in the mirror, saying something, anything, he would say, I've never seen anything like that in my life and it would be of anything and it was just an overreaction. So I've been doing more and more of that lately, but last night while I recognize that no one will remember Kennesaw State beating Liberty as anything memorable outside of the people who believe in Kennesaw State. As far as upsets go, in college football, an 0-5 team beating a 5-0 team,

a team I've heard of in Liberty because they're good at football, and a team in a program I haven't heard of because they started their program very recently, Kennesaw State beating Liberty by that point total. You've heard of Liberty because of football, huh? I've heard of it for other reasons as well. 1776 for one.

Liberty, I know of Liberty's politics and in general of its school getting into football because Hugh Freeze was in a press box in a hospital bed because it was important for him to be coaching football at the top of the game. Incredible visual. The best. I'm telling you, that's why these colleges

get into the football game because it brings their school name. They also occasionally sponsor the 24 car. Thank you, Mike. I appreciate you. Aggies did with Briscoe as well. I appreciate you wearing the gear head when you say it, all gear head information should come with the gear head on.

But when. From Miami Speedway this weekend! Tyler Rettig must cook. Not all information. That is correct. And everyone's gonna remember this Kenesaw State win. Everyone in the history of the world, because they did the college football world

a favor last night. Undefeated Liberty would have been a problem that the playoff committee would have had to deal with at some point, and they lost. And now we don't have to worry about them sneaking into the playoffs. So thank you to Kennesaw State, and forgive my ignorance on Kennesaw State,

but what I wanted to just ask you guys more generally is- They're the fighting owls, Dan. Thank you, they're fighting owls. They had a turnover plank, Dan. They had a turnover plank, and it was the talk of the town. It was what put Kennesaw State football on the map in 2017. I swear to you, the turnover plank was a thing

that all college football fans remember from 2017. Hugh Freeze is the thing that they remember from 2019. I can't even remember what year that was. It was quite a moment for him. But the turnover playing, Dan, this team, this school, Kennesaw State, I played soccer there once. I know where Kennesaw is. It's right outside of Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia.

Great soccer fields. Former Intercontinental Champion, Braun Breaker, played running back for Kennesaw State. That's true. And you knowinental Champion, Braun Breaker, played running back for Kensau State. That's true. And you know his father, Rick Steiner, the dog-faced gremlin. Roy, Tony, I felt like that may have been misinterpreted. I don't know if Jessica knows why you guys were

cackling with laughter while not listening. I apologize. Now, well, look, you guys are great at doing shows that interrupt others from doing the show well. It's the opposite of how all of this should work, but Tony and Roy were not laughing to be disrespectful and not listen to you, Jessica. They were laughing because video kept putting

Hugh Freeze's face closer and closer on the screen. While he's- He was interviewed while on the bed with an ESPN mic in front of his face. It looked like he was dead. Amazing. So nobody was listening to what you were saying in here cause they were distracted by the visuals. Oh wait, admittedly, some of the greatest visuals of all time at the risk of being prisoner of the moment.

The score is 24 nothing. You know, Babers is pointing up at him and Hugh Freeze is accepting. Look, there are a number of things funny about this visual. One of them is that Hugh Freeze thought Liberty football was so important and that he was so important that he had to go up in a press box in a hospital bed. What do you have, a staph infection or something?

So he's doing that, but his play calls are so important. Look, this is funny visually, just because of course, hospital bed football game, it's not that important, coach. But when you then see the score of the coach on the field is saying, way to go, Hugh, you're the toughest, and pointing up to the sky, and Hugh has zero points. It's huge. It's the automatic thing that you post

when someone makes one of those posts that's like, you have to be sick to be watching Conference USA on a Wednesday night in October, and then you repost with that, because you're like, yes, I am a very sick man, and I am watching Kennesaw State, who has never beaten an FBS team. They were completely winless all season,

and Liberty undefeated. We know FIU, our precious FIU, Florida International League. We're a young local team. The traffic was so bad, Dan, I stayed home. But they almost knocked off the game. Did you go you went and saw you to support Billy so bad Dan I stayed home but They almost knocked over Liberty knocked off Liberty in overtime last week and so we knew this Liberty team

I mean Kate and Salter is good. Don't get me wrong and I will add Liberty. They should have won this game They penalize themselves out of winning this game. Like they're the penalties are what made them lose They should I am Jamie Chadwell. Oh, that's going to be tough tape to watch. I appreciate that you have been infected so much by college football that we will hear later in the show from you and Lucy and Jen CFB, all of the ways that you've been poisoned by college football that would make you as the NBA season starts, watch Liberty against Kennesaw State because of the sickness, the disease that you have inside of you as it regards college football.

The thing I wanted to ask the group is, what represents Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame? I have a disease and you were watching the Heat last night? Oh, wow. Different diseases. I was watching the Heat last night with all of my sick friends. We were in the Leper colony together. We were in the Leopard colony together.

You were alone watching Kennesaw State. I got the booster apparently. What I want, yeah you've got now. You're done. Lucky. One of the things that I wanted to ask all of you though, what does represent the greatest college football upset ever? Like if I ask you in sports, throughout sports,

I feel like you can do this with the other sports. And I'm not saying that last night was one of them. No one will remember that that way. But a four touchdown dog, winless winning against a program that they knocked out of the playoffs or a playoff argument, it's not a small upset. So historically, Appalachian State at the big house

beating Michigan, which was highly ranked and had national title aspirations that year. I think according to spread two, there was a crazy straight up win that Stanford led by Jim Harbaugh had over the Pete Carroll led USC Trojans. I think that spread was at 40. Appalachian State was like a 41.

41, yeah okay. The Stanford USC was 41 points. Same in Appalachian State was like a 41 point. Yeah, okay the Stanford USC was 41 point Same in Appalachian State Michigan I thought first. Yeah App State I think is the probably the one that people will tell you first, but Stanford USC was That was a spicy meat. I would argue that the eighth seeded Miami Heat We're going all the way to the NBA Finals is probably a bigger upset. I feel like But it reminded me of Jeremy a little bit and I feel like we should talk about that some more. Not college football is not called wrong sport. No, I know, I know, but it reminded me of Jeremy a little bit and I feel like we should talk about the Miami Heat because you kicked him out a long time ago and he hasn't been back. Okay, we will get to that in a second because I think I've asked them to make a spin room for us and sometimes this can be hard to do on a moment's notice. So we will get to Jeremy in a second, but were you pouting because you didn't get to talk more? Kind of saw a state?

They stormed the field twice, they stormed the field, and then the refs were like, wait, there's a second left, everyone had to leave, and the stadium only fills like 10,000 seats, and it was not full, but then everyone had to leave the field, and then they came back, Dan, they came back, they re-stormed the field, just like Liberty fans stormed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Who cut off my mic? Correct me if I have this wrong because I don't know if I do or not. Appalachian State as a memorable upset, it's memorable because it was first, right? If Appalachian State did that now, we now know that the Coastal Carolinas and all these teams are a lot better,

and the point spread wouldn't be 40 anymore if those games happen now, because we know that these mid-tier teams or these low-level teams can actually go in and surprise one of the big programs, because, hey, there's James Madison scoring 50 at the half against North Carolina. Wasn't Appalachian State just first? It's not that if we go back and re-legislate that, it wouldn't be the upset anymore. It was just people were ignorant about how these mid-tier schools, how good they were getting fast. I was an FCS team at the time, going to an FBS opponent

that was pre-season ranked in the top 10 easily. But didn't they put scares into other programs after that? And even win? Yeah, it became their thing. Now they're in the Sun Belt, and it's a pretty solid football program. So I think for Kennesaw State, what's going on? Something fell in here.

The Metal Arch media's falling apart. No, it's just me. It's just me. My phone is always in my lap, and then it just falls down, and it's just my fault. He got distracted by his phone. All right, let me kick him out real quick here. Does Jeremy have bangs?

Go with Jeremy, go with Jeremy. I'm going to get, let me see here. A spin class. Hold on a second. I didn't say it was a spin class yet. I haven't revealed that to the audience yet. It's just a spin room. God damn. Is he? You guys don't soul cycle. We've never got into it.

I've done that. Is he? Get out of here. Do you like it? Yeah. I got really tired. Five minutes rooming company. I couldn't play it back to back. All right, let's see you later. really tired. Five minutes. I couldn't play it back to back. He's telling everybody it's a spin class before we've gone to the spin room. Well, I mean, it's an established bit, Dan. It is not an established bit. We did it one time. This is how

not established it is. I just got told that it wasn't working up in the gym area at the El Ser... Jeremy pilfered a cycle. He's in the green room right now. Hotta boy. He stole this from the gym. We don't use pilfered enough. Jeremy, go ahead. We go to the Miami Heat spin room where Jeremy is going to tell us why the Orlando Magic are not actually better than the Heat and haven't passed them in the conference already.

Uh, Dan, I wouldn't quite say that. I think the proof is in the pudding. Sorry, I've been spinning for like 40 minutes. You sent me here a while ago. Why is Izzy here? Well, I think the real truth about last night's game is it doesn't really say anything about the Miami Heat struggles as much as it says, hey, the Orlando Magic have arrived. Palo Beckero and last night's game, Dan,

30 points and 10 rebounds with no turnovers and being plus 40 in a game. That never happened since they started tracking plus minus. He was dominant, they're dominant. A game where Franz Wagner and Gary Harris shoot like that from three, nobody's gonna beat the Orlando magic like that Dan So I think it's just time to pump the brakes a little bit on the oh man the heater wash thing Jeremy

I don't feel like the resistance on that bike is strong enough. I feel like you're you're over breathing for something That's very easy to pedal. No, I mean, I'm just I'm sweating a lot As you can see the sweat is just pouring down from the rooftops even it's really it's a lot of sweat from the instructor. All right so the Miami Heat last night why is it not the apocalypse? It's not the apocalypse Dan because they have oh Jesus they have a new offense that they're trying to run and they Is that bleach he's spraying in his face, I don't think we have just water

People in front of me this is a really intense spin class and the resistance is clearly why isn't the apart? Why isn't it the apocalypse? It's not the apocalypse seconds left because Kaelware and Pella Larson are plus 20 seconds left. Because Kaelweir and Pella Larson are plus 99 per 48 minutes, Dan. The rookies are here. They've arrived and you're never going to see a game. Mark my words, the rest of the year, you will not have another game where Bama DiBio and Jimmy Butler combine two for 13 from the field. Hey everyone, it's Mike Ryan. So I'm hearing that you still haven't entered the DraftKings weekend

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